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aliikane
10-18-2002, 10:25 AM
I am painting my first body using liquid mask. I realize now how much time it takes to paint a body when using liquid mask if you want to do any design and more than one color. I can see why people are charging so much money for custom paint jobs on bodies.
Does anybody have any tips on speeding up the process using liquid mask? Is it neccessary to put on 3 to 4 coats?
Cosmo
10-18-2002, 11:01 AM
At least 4 coats minimum. The thicker the mask is the easier it will be to get off. Well, of course you don't want it ½" thick or anything like that, but if it's too thin it won't peel off. I don't really know of any way to make it go any faster. You definately don't want to use a hair dryer to speed the process along because the heat will make the mask shrink slightly and it will pull away from the corners. You can take a fan and blow a constant flow of air over it. That may help some.
aliikane
10-18-2002, 03:05 PM
Yeah, I read some website that had information about liquid mask and it said that using a blow dryer would speed the drying process which it does, however, it does make the liquid mask dry up and flake in places. Now, I know the thicker the liquid mask the better, but the Parma liquid mask bottle is so freaking small. It is only 2oz which is not enough for a whole body. Next time, I am going to use Bob Dively liquid mask because it comes in large bottles to glob it on.
PureTMaxx
10-18-2002, 03:06 PM
You may be able to save time by using tape mask for the basic areas and liquid only in the detailed spots. Definately put on several coats...if it is to thin then you might get a bad case of paint rage and go a little postal on that lexan & dull blade may cause you to rip the liquid mask rather than cut your design...so get a new one knife.
mab_man20
10-19-2002, 02:19 AM
I use dively's liquid mask all the time and frequently use a hair drier to speed up the process. I have never experienced the mask "shrinking" or crumbling. When i cut it it stays exactly where i wanted it.
Can anyone explain this?:confused:
Originally posted by mab_man20
I use dively's liquid mask all the time and frequently use a hair drier to speed up the process. I have never experienced the mask "shrinking" or crumbling. When i cut it it stays exactly where i wanted it.
Can anyone explain this?:confused:
Yeah, I've never had a problem either.
I accually use a space heater to dry my liquid mask ( Use Caution! ). The only problem i had, so sometimes the liquid masking would bubble...
Now i just mask'em the day before..
-Troy
Cosmo
10-19-2002, 11:54 AM
Usually you don't have the "shrinkage" problem if you use a bunch of thin coats. If you're like me and you use a few thick coats, heat will cause the mask to pull out of the corners of the body. I only use Dively, so I can't comment on any of the others, except to say that the Parma is complete garbage. It becomes brittle in a matter of days, and is just basically unpleasant to use. If you use heat on it and have no problems, consider yourself lucky.
Originally posted by Cosmo
Parma is complete garbage. It becomes brittle in a matter of days, and is just basically unpleasant to use. If you use heat on it and have no problems, consider yourself lucky.
Thats what i like about Dively. A couple times i've masked a body off, and let it sit for a couple weeks before painting..
-Troy
aliikane
10-19-2002, 07:19 PM
Originally posted by mab_man20
I use dively's liquid mask all the time and frequently use a hair drier to speed up the process. I have never experienced the mask "shrinking" or crumbling. When i cut it it stays exactly where i wanted it.
Can anyone explain this?:confused:
The stuff that strinks and flakes is the Parma liquid mask. I haven't used the Bob Dively liquid mask, but I heard it is the best to use. Next time, I am going to use the Bob Dively stuff.
Rymin929
10-20-2002, 12:49 AM
Or you can just ditch the liquid mask all together and go the old fashion way and just use tape. I've had too many problems with liquid masks like stated above and I'm not patient enough to wait for the damn stuff to dry. My tapes dry right off the roll.....lol :D
mab_man20
10-20-2002, 02:25 AM
That explains it, i use 4-5 thinner coats (please no comments on if thats enough, it has yet to be a problem :) )
thanks guys.
Dively and Hobbico make the only masks worth using, dively's is a little better though.
BobHastings
10-20-2002, 03:07 AM
Good compromise between liquid and tape is this new stuff called Hobby Mask from Artool Products Co. I've been testing it for a month or so...it's a clear, flexible medium tack frisket material... The 6"x 30ft roll will sell for 19.99.....No wait time to dry and its really flexible.
mab_man20
10-20-2002, 12:22 PM
That sounds pritty cool bob. Can we expect a review soon?
aliikane
10-20-2002, 12:31 PM
Originally posted by BobHastings
Good compromise between liquid and tape is this new stuff called Hobby Mask from Artool Products Co. I've been testing it for a month or so...it's a clear, flexible medium tack frisket material... The 6"x 30ft roll will sell for 19.99.....No wait time to dry and its really flexible.
Yeah, that sounds like a good product.
Does it adhere good to the surface so you don't have to worry about bleeding?
Website?
InspGadgt
10-21-2002, 05:16 PM
Originally posted by BobHastings
Good compromise between liquid and tape is this new stuff called Hobby Mask from Artool Products Co. I've been testing it for a month or so...it's a clear, flexible medium tack frisket material... The 6"x 30ft roll will sell for 19.99.....No wait time to dry and its really flexible.
Sounds great...you can precut out your masks too...wonder how it works in a sign cutter...where to buy?