View Full Version : Titan,BFT, Savage 1ST look in Dec. RCCA
Wow, looks the Titan is the only one loaded for bear. Plastic shocks on the Savage, plastic shocks AND fake reservoirs on the BFT. Also a new ad for the XTM .21 truck, can you say UUGGLLYY!
ihaterc89
10-22-2002, 03:15 PM
please dont judge a rc car ANY RC CAR w/o even seeing it the savage 21 looks awesome! and the TITAN IS way to pricey i have always owned HPI and am stickking w/ them as for the ae truck i havent really looked into in------the old saying ---dont judge a book by its cover same goes for rc cars
-=ADA$=-
10-22-2002, 03:21 PM
well but things like plastick shocks, are proved to be some kind of weak especialy in 1/8 scale, and if they take a lot of abuse
ihaterc89
10-22-2002, 03:25 PM
but i am pretty sure hpi or someone will make big bore shocks for the savage and who knows those shocks could be good!!! ADA what do u think of teh savage? thanks alot
-=ADA$=-
10-22-2002, 03:53 PM
when not talking about price Savage is one piece of machine, just like Titan, Monster GT, i like them all, and i think i like them all on same level, but its true that plastic shocks are a bit on the cheap side, and the tank is a bit exposed, but i have nothing bad to say about the rest o the truck, havent driven any, and seen in life, but im sure they will be very good, machines, well i forgot Mad force, which i like also. the 2002 line of MT is great, so many of companies makes monsters, its just to pick one, you like the best
ihaterc89
10-22-2002, 03:56 PM
yup i think rc companies is all cometition but i might pick up the savage or the new maxx ADA can i have your instant messager screename?thanks mine is at aol its YONKAZ89 AND MY AIM ONE IS fundip51089 thanks :)
Bullet 87
10-22-2002, 04:19 PM
I think the new XTM X-factor looks sweet.
The design looks god and it might be a winner to me.
But i will have to see whats in store for the future.
ihaterc89
10-22-2002, 04:31 PM
it does look sweet bullet but i will have to wait and see it in action....im stuck between the savage and the new maxx any ideas on whats better?
racer13
10-22-2002, 05:29 PM
what i think is funny is that hpi makes a monster truck, yeah they have bigger tires etc.. but wait? why is EVERYthing compatible with the t-maxx?! wheels, bodies, shocks etc
racer13
10-22-2002, 05:30 PM
i think the new t-maxx is better, and ALWAYS will be. it is the only traxxas car i like.
ihaterc89
10-22-2002, 05:38 PM
shocks arent compatible!! the savages are like 7 inches long!! its like saying you can only use duratrax bobies on duratrax cars tmaxx bodies arent made by traxxas there made by compaines like proline etc.....and as for wheels traxxas doesnt even make em proline and TRC etc do! wat the....
Nitro Power Kid
10-22-2002, 06:15 PM
1) The Titan is not that much more than the Savage or BFT and has much more steel and aluminum.
2) Plastic shocks and fake reservoirs don't cut it in the 1/8 scale world. I don't care if they're 90 inches.
3) Savage has no adjustability in suspension.
4) Traxxas makes all their bodies, tires, and wheels! Pro-line just makes aftermarket bodies and tires.
5) The BFT and Savage have plastic pipes and dogbones while the Titan has CVD's on all corners and a metal tuned pipe.
6) RCCARACTION radared the Titan at 35 MPH, that's faster than the low 30's that HPI and Associated claim their's can go (plus, Titan's are 3 lbs heavier).
These are all decent vehicles, but the Titan already has all the upgrades....
HOLA :)
ihaterc89
10-22-2002, 07:01 PM
nitro kid what do YOU think i should buy?the savage or the maxx 2.5
racer13
10-22-2002, 07:06 PM
AH, wait.. the new t-maxx was rated 40+!!! FASTER than the titan! i think u should get that. its a sweet truck
ihaterc89
10-22-2002, 07:13 PM
yes it was rated 40 mph ++++++++++ BUT do you think it is as durable? and will it beat the savage 21 in a race thanks :)! oh yeah if i get it what charger and batteries should i get thanks
Guido
10-23-2002, 01:13 AM
Pic of already broken Savage.
http://pub121.ezboard.com/fmaxximumtraxxasfrm97.showMessage?topicID=35.topic
G.:(
The_CK
10-23-2002, 04:04 AM
i think the titan is too heavy, and those wheels are just too damn wide... interesting to see which of these new trucks will be durable, dosent look like the savage will be though :)
Nitro Power Kid
10-23-2002, 08:30 AM
Depends on how much money you have...
T-Maxx if you have less than 425,
Titan if you have more than 600...
Bullet 87
10-23-2002, 08:38 AM
The new T-maxx goes 40+mph with the new engine, which is a hopped up .15 and the Tiatan only goes 35mph with a .25!!!!
Imagine if you put a .25 in the t-maxx. It would be hella fast.
Imagine what the Titan will do if you swap those monster tires for some Maxx sized tires and SaBR rims. That would be pretty sweet and it would drop about 1.5 lbs at least.
As for me, I'll just stick with my race preped MP and my hybrid (to be completed with the pro-line bulks when they come out next month).
The_CK
10-24-2002, 03:47 AM
yeah i been thinking about a titan on maxx size tyres as well...
im also wondering about the size of the titan, like if you put maxx size tyres on it how much bigger than a maxx would it be?
QUAKE&SHAKE
10-24-2002, 09:50 AM
Originally posted by racer13
AH, wait.. the new t-maxx was rated 40+!!!
Yeah by traxxas not an independant source.
Remember Traxxas had 50+ mph for the 4-tec but when RCCA clocked it in a Touring car test it went something lke 45-46mph not 50+
StevePond
10-24-2002, 01:14 PM
I tested the 2.5 T-Maxx at a little over 40 mph. I also tested the 4-Tec at just a click over 50 mph, so both of them have lived up to their claims. Quite honestly however, I don't see why so much discussion centers around the speed of a Monster truck. No part of the desirable attributes of a monster truck ever center around speed - it's just a bit of trivia. The key points I alway see discussed are suspension travel, jumping ability, handling, acceleration, durability, whether can it wheelie, etc. Speed doesn't factor into any of these areas. If you want to win a top speed contest in the K-Mart parking lot, there are hundreds of other vehicles that do it better than a monster truck. It's like asking if a 747 is faster than a 777. They're not made for speed, they're made for carrying passengers, cargo, flying a certain distance on a certain amount of fuel, etc. If all you care about is speed, then shop for an SR-71 or a suitable fighter jet - they're the best at going fast.
-=ADA$=-
10-24-2002, 02:18 PM
Finnaly someone important that tells this maybe youll understand it this time MT's arnt for speed, speed is just aside of all other reasons, so listen to person that knows nitro like his own pocket /\/\/\
Well said, any truck at over 30mph can be a handful except on the smoothest terrain. The new Maxx or my Hyper 8-port MP are just plain scary when they are near top end. All of these new trucks are going to be fun, but I do think that the .21 powered XTM solid axel is a disaster waiting to happen. Too much power for a crawler/climber, not to mention that unprotected steering servo.
QUAKE&SHAKE
10-24-2002, 07:50 PM
The thing is speed does matter to an extent therefore the large number of posts reguarding speed. Why would Traxxas spend two years designing a faster engine to put in the new maxx. Because the people wanted a faster maxx. If the new max still went just 30mph there would have been a huge outcry from maxx loyalists.
If truck "A" jumps great, handles great, costs 450 goes 45mph and truck "B" jumps great handles great costs 450 and goes 30 people will go with truck "A" If the old maxx was still sold how many people would choose it over the new maxx at the same price? Nobody in their right mind.
Speed also makes you jump farther and higher I would like my NQ to go faster in order to do this.
StevePond
10-24-2002, 09:20 PM
I find the speed of a monster truck is about as relevant a factor as 10-model memory in a high end radio for a person that has one car. I don't mean that as a dig; I just think too many people focus so much attention on a factor of performance that is completely meaningless unless you're racing to see who can get the highest reading on the radar gun. Heck, we even provide speed readings on many of our track tests because people want to know the speed capabilities, but to use that information as the pivotal point in a purchasing decision is to ignore all the other primary factors for which a monster truck is REALLY designed.
Traxxas didn't make a faster engine, they made a more powerful one. The extra power does result in higher speeds, but it also makes the truck accelerate much more quickly. That fact is completely overlooked when you only concern yourself with a speed reading. It's a fine distinction, but typical monster truck fans are not looking for speed at the expense of all other factors. Do you think everyone would be happy if it took the length of two football fields to get up to the higher speed? No.
You can't make the argument that, all other things remaining equal, speed would make the difference, because no two trucks are that equal that it would come down to speed and only speed as the difference between them.
Yes, I agree that higher speeds can lead to greater jumping distances, but doesn't that ignore the fact that you usually have a given distance in which to make it up to speed? Lets use you as an example. Lets say you have 100 feet of run-up area to gather speed before your jump.
Truck "A" goes 45 mph, but it takes the distance of two football fields to reach that speed. Within the limits of your 100 feet of run-up, it might only be able to accelerate to 15 mph.
Truck "B" tops out at 30 mph and it takes 100 feet to reach that speed because it's got more horsepower and is geared for stronger acceleration than top speed.
In the aforementioned scenario, truck "B" would clearly be the better choice because it reaches double the speed of truck "A" within a reasonable amount of space. So, again, I suggest there's too much emphasis on speed at the expense of much more important elements. This is a monster truck after all. Was it speed runs you were envisioning when you were saving to buy your favorite truck?! :D ;) :cool:
morfracerX
10-25-2002, 02:34 AM
SteveP Had some very good points.i just wanted to stick my ofna nose in here and sound off.
When I look at the way the MT world has been going, it made me happy I went with the truck I did. From HPI’s track record I know exactly what to expect (having owned a few of their R/C). Yes you might get one of the lowest out of the box cost cars in that class, but in about 5 runs you will soon see why it cost less then the others in the class. HPI knows that once you get your car in a driver’s hand they have you. You will drop what ever it takes in hop-up’s and eye candy to make it a race worthy truck.
Titan
When you look at the Titan you have to consider OFNA’s track record. OFNA has a problem with product quality, there is often buggie parts that get make it to consumers. But on the other hand OFNA has always built a nice quality product once they get the bugs out. OFNA also has a tendency to make R/C’s 6that can be raced out of the box and raced hard with very few modifications.
The BFT
Out of the three this is the truck I was looking at getting till I read up and tried to do what research I could on the truck. The truck is not made by Associated but by Thunder Tiger, The BFT also comes with a plastic drivetran just like the t-maxx and with a .21 pushing that drivetran you can count on it being mush just like those guys running stock tmaxx trannys with .21’s in them.
You forgot one of the best MT’s out there if you plan on racing, the “OFNA “Dominator”. you can get a rolling DOM for $309 far less then all the other MT’ and just like most of the other OFNA R/C’s it is a race worthy vehicle out of the box.
See Savage points as I feel the same way about the maxx (1-2.5)
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