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Drachen
10-31-2002, 01:26 AM
ok... if someone wanted to convert an R/C car, any kind of RC doesnt matter, wouldnt it be quite simple?
i would think that you'd take a set of tires.. yet again.. doesnt matter... but preferably something not seriously treaded, and cheap too... just put some thumbtacks through them from the inside put a good firm insert inside, glue it all onto a rim, mount them on the vehicle..
easy ice racer? your opinions?
unfortunately i dont have an RC at the moment. i want one. and will get one after i deal with my real car issues for the winter...
if thumbtacks are the pointy things you put up paper and stuff on those board-thingies and are usually covered with plastic then thats a good idea, for about 2-5 runs :D after that the "pointy things" has become the "warped pointing in all strange directions or broken things" :) a better idea is to get thin screws, washers and nuts(wery small) and put them on sturdy tires (preferably cheap) like washer|, screw--, tire/ washer| nut# or something like that :) |--/-|--# and tighten it. 1,5mm diameter i think would be enough and probably 1,5-2mm outside the tire. is this totally stupid?
Judgement
10-31-2002, 08:15 AM
I use Pro-Line Road Hawgs with small sheet metal screws. They're cheap and they don't fall out. They also make for a wicked spark show.
I've also used carpet tacks with pretty good results.
what is a sheet metal screw?
Drachen
10-31-2002, 09:34 AM
i've no clue if its a stupid idea or not... never tried it...
once i get an rc car i will.. thats for sure. the roads near my house get rather nasty because of the snow plows(plow? heh) that compact all the snow they dont scrape away into sheets of ice.
i was just wondering if it was even possible or sounded plausible... apparentally it is because Judgement sounds like he does it for the winters there.
Madmann135
10-31-2002, 09:56 AM
I was thinking on how to do Ice road driving with my Max last year when the streets were Iced.
I solved that by throwing rock salt and rocks over the ice.
and coming back the next day
Judgement
10-31-2002, 02:21 PM
This is what a sheet metal screw looks like: (Pic below)
I run three rows of screws on each back tire and usually about two rows of carpet tacks on each front tire. Self tapping sheet metal screws work the best on the rear because they have a sharp tip on them. Any hardware store will have these.
You won't hook up like you would on dry ground but it does work. It just takes some getting used to. I found that electric cars with a mild motor work the best because it's easier to control the tire spin. I have a set of studded tires for my GT, and it works, but it's a handfull to drive.
coasterfreak
10-31-2002, 03:11 PM
that's a pretty cool idea, kinda like the ice racing with rally cars. someone should try these ideas on a rally touring car, such as the RS4 Rally, just make sure u have lots of downforce on the car!:D
4W Drifter
10-31-2002, 03:31 PM
THe steering would probably really suck though wouldnt it? I mean rubber doesnt doo a heck of alot on ice. How about some pizza cutter wheels? That would look interesting! lol!
fmolzer
10-31-2002, 05:24 PM
We used to do ice racing quite a bit about 15 years ago when I lived in Sweden. We used 1/8:th scale nitro on-road cars, but I imagine a modern nitro TC would also work well, probably better. We made ice racing tires from foam tires. You buy loose foam donuts and rims, then you get the small size nails with a big head. Push them through the foamtire donut from the inside, use a bit of rubber cement to hold them in place. Once you are satisfied with the number of nails in a donut, push in the rim, effectively locking in the nails by sandwiching the head between rim and tire and glue as you normally would. The more nails, the better. Get the nails to protrude about 1/8 of an inch, that is all you need if you plan to race on a clear ice surface with a minimum amount of snow. Plow a track on your lake and go play. Also, remember that the nails potentially can depart from the tire. Use a bodyshell that covers the weels. You may also want to consider to build wheel wells inside the body to minimze the amount of ice spray that gets onto your chassis. Ahh, the memories, I should do this myself, if I could only stand to be outside when it is cold.
would these be good for making nail-tires for my 1/10 rally car or are these allready glued?http://www.teamtrinity.com/tires/images/touringtire.jpg know if this second idea would work? you know the the rubberband you put on the rims of your bike so the spokes wont pinch the innertube? neway, take that, some flat bigheaded long enough nails and glue the nails to the wheel and put loads of the rubber on, then put something like silicone-sealant ontop and a normal tire on? any idea? could work with duct tape or the silicone only too i think. or then this, glue the nails(like the ones you nail horseshoes on the horses) on the wheel with something wery strong, (epoxy, sikaflex?) it would be better if it were a bit flexible, then put loads of silicone bathroom-sealant ontop and seal the thing with duct tape!! that would be cheap and wery easy to do!! and i dont think the rubber touches the ice anyway so it would bite as good with the duct tape as with the normal rubbers. and hey you know whats best of all!??! you get grey tires on your car :D did anyone notice how creative i feel today? :D
pudder
11-01-2002, 06:10 PM
It just popped into my head but taking some machine screws and somehow screwing them through a rim so they protrude out the other side just on a bare rim might also work, I would go for the tires thing first. :)
terracrusher02
11-01-2002, 11:13 PM
I live on a lake and every winter we ride dirtbikes, quads and snowmobiles on the ice,,, For the dirtbikes we use carbide tiped studs, for the quads I use pro gold ice racing screws, and the sleds have studded tracks. Anyway, my point,, I had some extra screws last year so I put them in my RC10GT but they just flew out of the tires.... Anyway, I started thinking about it,,,, and tried different things,,, but the main problem is weight, our 1/10 scale cars just dont have the weight to get really good traction on ice,,,,,,, This year I will be doin my t-maxx 2.5 for the ice,,, I'll let you all know how it turns out..
yeeehaw
11-02-2002, 10:57 AM
get some 3/8-1/2 inch track spikes and get some nuts that fit on the threaded end and have a blast or do the same with sprint spikes. oshmans sell them.
Matt:D
brassmonkey
11-02-2002, 06:25 PM
They make snow chains, but unfortunally we don't get snow in SoCal so I wouldn't know how well they hook up.
coolrider
11-11-2002, 01:19 PM
I took Pro lines dirt hawgs an took a stapler (not those paper ones but a havy duty one) and turned it inside out and started stapling. I tried it and the staples just came loose.
Sefro
11-12-2002, 12:50 PM
the stapler would work you just need to line the tire with the magical duct tape after you staple the tire!!
Sefro
yeeehaw
11-12-2002, 04:41 PM
or C A the staples in.
Matt
Tamiya-TLO1
11-12-2002, 05:03 PM
I think Haevy duty staples would be best.
coolrider
11-20-2002, 11:35 AM
I recently finished tires which have little skrews on them. I took them for a test drive and results were excellent :) I tried them on a frozen lake and traktion was better than I expected.