Chicago Racing (track info inside)

[Walt]

Because of you, I kinda know that it will be RAIN OUT tomorrow.......can you stay home instead...? (Just kidding....see you tomorrow and we need to sit to each other cause no one really want to hang with the next WILLIAM HUNG....)

It may not be the warmest day tomorrow, but it doesn't look like it will be raining either. So just dress warmly and remember that those engines (and motors) will run nice and cool tomorrow.

I'll be there around 6am, in case anyone wants to help set up the track... didn't think so...

See you guys tomorrow.

[Rookie Solara]

Whoever started the engine and made it idle for more then 2 minutes win a PIZZA tomorrow....where are those 30 shores WINTER foams...?

[Walt]

Opening day is under our belt at Chicagoland R/C Raceway. Despite the dyer predictions about rain, cold, etc., it turned out to be a pretty darn nice day. My thanks to everyone that made it out. Sorry about the late start due to the printer problem (I tested everything the night before, but I guess that printer didn't like the cold... new one will be purchased before the next race).

Remember, no racing next Sunday due to Mother's Day, but the following Sunday (May 16th... did I get the date right this time?) will be trophy/points day. The top 13 in each class go home with a trophy, and everyone else gets a ribbon. I hope I'll see all of you in two weeks.

[kakolitoy]

When I got home, I took a warm shower and just left all of my stuff dirty in the trunk of the car. It was a beautiful day hanging out with my Fiance, but a bad racing day for me. I have not touch my car since the last race in HTOP last year. I called in for work so I can get to race for the opening day. I felt like I work because of setting up both cars and trying to adjust my cars for TP. Despite of all stress trying to hook up the cars @ the track, I had a great day racing and just feeling the racing tense again. I just want to say thanks to the staff of TP track, the guys that help, and Walt that made it happened yesterday. It will be a while until I go back to TP, but yesterday was a great day to start the season.

BTW: Hopefully, the "KILLER" puddle will be gone when I go back :D J/K

[Nexus]

Walt.

Are you planning to put together a flyer/pdf/ect or something for the trophy race? I'm trying to get other electric TC guys interested and it would be easier if I could just send them a jpg,pdf or whatever of the event...

classes...price...time...ect.

Just wondering.....I heard sunday was great...hopefully I can make it out soon.

[Rookie Solara]

Walt.

Are you planning to put together a flyer/pdf/ect or something for the trophy race? I'm trying to get other electric TC guys interested and it would be easier if I could just send them a jpg,pdf or whatever of the event...

classes...price...time...ect.

Just wondering.....I heard sunday was great...hopefully I can make it out soon.

Nexus......you need to get back to TP quick to save Euge and Brain asses...they were handed to the fast guy over there, and I believed they cannot do good cause you were not there.

Those elect car is FASTER then I thought........I think the winner of the A has a lap time just around us NITRO guy, and somehow the elect car RUN LINE looks much better then nitro (at least I felt like he ran much cleaner then me...) and those rubber tires seems work out pretty good on him....

You need to be there next time.........and hope Euge and Brian will have a better day next time.

[Nexus]

Nexus......you need to get back to TP quick to save Euge and Brain asses...they were handed to the fast guy over there, and I believed they cannot do good cause you were not there.

Those elect car is FASTER then I thought........I think the winner of the A has a lap time just around us NITRO guy, and somehow the elect car RUN LINE looks much better then nitro (at least I felt like he ran much cleaner then me...) and those rubber tires seems work out pretty good on him....

You need to be there next time.........and hope Euge and Brian will have a better day next time.

i will hopefully be sending reinforcements for the 16th! :) i put in to take the day off and hopefully i get it.

from euge's testing...the rubber tires were 'ok' but foams were waaay better.

as for electrics being fast.....never underestimate a 10 turn or lower motor on an open track....the trophy race should be a blast with brians brushless and everyone running crazy low turn mods.

when can we expect to see the results from sunday?

[Rookie Solara]

i will hopefully be sending reinforcements for the 16th! :) i put in to take the day off and hopefully i get it.

from euge's testing...the rubber tires were 'ok' but foams were waaay better.

as for electrics being fast.....never underestimate a 10 turn or lower motor on an open track....the trophy race should be a blast with brians brushless and everyone running crazy low turn mods.

when can we expect to see the results from sunday?

Well, give Walt a little break, to be honest, I myself knocked down on the bed around 9:30 last night...........after a long winter break, it is not easy to race 2 classes and tune cars and selling parts, imagine, WALT is doing 3X the work more that I did yesterday, running track, breaking the printer, uploading drivers for the printer................etc.

I believed the A1 elelctric guy was running RUBBER all day long (unless I am totally smoking..), what if he is running foam..I bet he will be uncatchalbe (even he was uncatchable yesterday).....

Euge was playing with setting and tires all day long, so that does not count...(I bet he is aiming for 16th so he tried not to show all those JEDI FORCE)...and Brain (chicagorc) is testing all the latest electrical component all day long and see which one cannot last longer then a 5 minutes quailifier (ha ha, come on, you knew I was kidding...)....if he get better luck on his servo, I bet he will do good............also, he need to GEAR UP BIG TIME if he want to catch those 7 turns.

Again..........Trophy race is on 16th (the Sunday after MOTHERS DAY) TOP 13 racers will receive prices on both NITRO and ELECT class (A1, A2 and A3 will receive trophy, then the rest of the A's will receive plaque or somthing) then B1, B2 and B3 will receive trophy, the rest of the finishes and lower main will receive ribbons.

On top of that..........WALT will autograph on the A1 car's body (so you can auction it on EBAY for some serious money..)....but what if WALT took the A1...will he autograph himself on his own car?

[Rkmori]

Man, I wished I could have been there to start the new season, but there is HTOP I hope there will be a good turn out this saturday at HTOP.......I know that the racers make or break the track I know of at least 1 regular that will be in Thailand racing his R40..........Come on guys the weather is suppose to be 83 and sunny.........

[Walt]

Walt.

Are you planning to put together a flyer/pdf/ect or something for the trophy race? I'm trying to get other electric TC guys interested and it would be easier if I could just send them a jpg,pdf or whatever of the event...

classes...price...time...ect.

Just wondering.....I heard sunday was great...hopefully I can make it out soon.

Flyer huh... didn't even think about it. Didn't you put together a flyer for RSJ's race? I guess I should have some out at the local hobby shops. I'll try to get one together, but honestly, flyers are not my strong point. If anyone can offer any help, I'd probably take it.... but if I get some time I'll make one myself.

[Walt]

i will hopefully be sending reinforcements for the 16th! :) i put in to take the day off and hopefully i get it.

from euge's testing...the rubber tires were 'ok' but foams were waaay better.

as for electrics being fast.....never underestimate a 10 turn or lower motor on an open track....the trophy race should be a blast with brians brushless and everyone running crazy low turn mods.

when can we expect to see the results from sunday?

The results are up now... should have been last night, but I forgot to bring the results home... after all the stuff I had to do, I forgot the results. Had to drive back there tonight to get 'em.

And I was very impressed with how well those electric cars were going out there on Sunday. It was a pretty tight track (sorry, 'technical'... the most technical track we've ever set up... so far). Tight by our standards of course... nothing near as tight as an indoor track of course.

For a while the only person with 12 laps in qualifying was Pat in electric. A couple nitro guys got in 12 laps too, but no one managed more than that, and only one nitro guy out qualified Pat, and he only did it by 1 second. And Pat's best lap of 25.56 was better than all but two of the nitro guys (and that doesn't include me... my best lap was 25.62). The electric cars were moving.

[Rookie Solara]

There is 1 interesting point while we were on the A's....I think a guy was running right in front of me got some "PENALTY STOP" several times, ordered by someone down below the driver stand (I don't want to name that judge)....and he pulled over to the side of the track and do a "stop and go" several times right in front of me, and that made me pulled a complete stop cause he need to do that STOP and GO thing.....and I realized that my brakes failed cause I forgot to install my brake linkage.....caused me a tab behind his rear....

Do we have this STOP and GO penalty enforcing now? Are we really that "PRO" and somehow, we have a side JUDGE on the track? But not naming that driver, what caused that penalty?

And I thought I was ended up A4 on the A-main, and Walt was 34 laps with someone...but now, I ended up A3 with Nick's car got -3 laps (ended up just some seconds behind me) after the adjustment.....is he the penalty driver? What did he do?

By looking at his time slip.....he pulled some 23 sec laps on the main (23.19 fastest lap.....I think that is the fastest time for 200mm TC at TP yesterday beside Tony's 1/8th 22sec lap)..........is that some error that? But he did that twice so I believed he did pull some really quick lap on the main....

[Rookie Solara]

Man, I wished I could have been there to start the new season, but there is HTOP I hope there will be a good turn out this saturday at HTOP.......I know that the racers make or break the track I know of at least 1 regular that will be in Thailand racing his R40..........Come on guys the weather is suppose to be 83 and sunny.........

So is HTOP still alive...? Hows the parking lot situation...? But anyhow, hope you guys have fun.....I like the race over there too, if I have time, I will stop by and probably steal someone's car and take some hot laps.....LOL

[kakolitoy]

I saw NIck did not went around few times @ the A main. He went to the driverstand through the block and went straight to the curve close by the bowling alley door, while I saw Rick, BOb, and Walt turning@ the curve infront of the driverstand. I saw Frank telling NIck not to do that again. That is not fair, especially for the point series.

[Euge]

I believed the A1 elelctric guy was running RUBBER all day long (unless I am totally smoking..), what if he is running foam..I bet he will be uncatchalbe (even he was uncatchable yesterday).....

Pat Morris was the name of the top electric guy and he was FAST sunday. He was sitting on the other side of Jimmy Stegen who was sitting next to me. Anyway, Pat was running foam tires which at least on that day was much faster. Now, Howard, if you saw rubber tires on Pat's car, maybe he tried running them, but every time I saw his car, it was on foams.
Brian (chicagorc) was running foams and Rick DaVito tried rubber and foams and he agreed with me that foams were much better, although Rick's car still had the indoor carpet setup on there.
All day I switched between rubber and foam tires, alternating each round. The foams were much better, at least on that day. Maybe if it was warmer, the rubber tires would work, but not that day.
Kitt was running rubber, but switched to foam as well before he left prematurely. The only person I know who likes running rubber is Rutt, and he can be fast. But for everyone else, it seemed like foams were the way to go.

But yeah, as far as power goes, I'm loving running modified electric. I don't think I've ever seen my TC go that fast on a straight! I broke a couple things on the car, but nothing too major. I guess all that extra speed comes at a cost!

[Rkmori]

So is HTOP still alive...? Hows the parking lot situation...? But anyhow, hope you guys have fun.....I like the race over there too, if I have time, I will stop by and probably steal someone's car and take some hot laps.....LOL

Feel free to grab my R40 and make a few laps, but as far as the lot the landlord has given the ok to run ervery other Saturday until September, there will be 10 races for the season. Weather still looks good for Saturday 83 deg. and partly cloudy. So guys do your Mother Day shopping on Friday....Esp you Rookie, This will be her first offical mothers day. See ya guys at the track.

[Rookie Solara]

Pat Morris was the name of the top electric guy and he was FAST sunday. He was sitting on the other side of Jimmy Stegen who was sitting next to me. Anyway, Pat was running foam tires which at least on that day was much faster. Now, Howard, if you saw rubber tires on Pat's car, maybe he tried running them, but every time I saw his car, it was on foams....

Euge...most likely, I might be mistaken, if you say he was running foams on all heats and mains, then he must be using foams, beside, he must be really good to have rubber on TP and still making those fast lap times and win.

P.S. About the A-main cheating incident...Walt, what is your story? I can't believe someone will do something like that.....next time, I will STOP on the straight and running circle on the scanner on every 15 seconds.

[Nexus]

walt or anyone else...

offhand would you know the dimensions of the onroad track...straight away length and lane width?

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how did the electric hook-ups workout on sunday? i remember last year there was only really 1 or 2 extension cords and everyone was hooking up to that....is that still the situation?

[Walt]

I saw NIck did not went around few times @ the A main. He went to the driverstand through the block and went straight to the curve close by the bowling alley door, while I saw Rick, BOb, and Walt turning@ the curve infront of the driverstand. I saw Frank telling NIck not to do that again. That is not fair, especially for the point series.

Nick cheated... tons of people saw it. He cut the track, on purpose, three times. I docked him a lap for every time he cut the track (not that it really matters, since this was not a points race or anything else). He says he did it because he got a bad start or there were bad marshals or whatever. I don't think those are good reasons to cheat. Frank thought I should ban him from the track for 3 weeks, but that seemed a little too harsh since I had not officially warned people not to do that. But Frank did point out that cutting the track like that was a little dangerous to the marshals, who were not expecting a car to be coming through that gap.

What's done is done.

At the points race we'll have to make sure that the track can not be 'cut' like that, plus I'll warn everyone of the penalty (one lap per infraction, so it doesn't make any sense to do it). AND I'll have 'judges' watching the track (my Dad, my brother, my uncle... guys like that) and video from the roof that I can check if there is some dispute (and yeah, we're only racing for a $30 trophy, but still, I want it to be fair).

I'm still debating if I'll race in the points race... some say I shouldn't because it's 'my' track, but at the same time, I only run this track because I wanted someplace to race after Harper shut down. If I don't race, then what's the point (from my perspective). But, it's also a little silly for me to get a trophy that I bought. It's not like I have an advantage... I actually have a disadvantage... I'm running registration when everyone else is practicing. And I usually sit out the first round because I want to make sure that the first round goes off correctly (if it does, then usually the rest go off without a problem as well).

If I do race, it will be as an 'extra' and I'll just take my car out of the computer after the race is over, so I essentially won't count, but I'll still get to have fun. I'll also stand on the light pole concrete thing instead of the driver's stand, since I don't think we can fit 11 people up there, but I want 10 'real' drivers in the A.

[Walt]

walt or anyone else...

offhand would you know the dimensions of the onroad track...straight away length and lane width?

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how did the electric hook-ups workout on sunday? i remember last year there was only really 1 or 2 extension cords and everyone was hooking up to that....is that still the situation?

The overall dimensions of the area we set up in are 185 feet by 100 feet, so the straightaway is 185 feet long, from board to board.

We typically set up lanes at least 15 feet wide. The back straight is closer to 20 feet wide. If I set up a 'wide' track (like I used to do when we had 1/5th cars coming), then the lanes were 25' minimum width... I probably won't do that anymore this year since it's a little crazy for touring cars.

As far as electrical hookups, we still only have one good working outlet there on the outside of that beer garden building. But it's got a good strong breaker in it (20 or 25 amps) and Frank checked it a couple times last year when we had a lot of guys hooked up and we never got close to that limit. I also have the computer running on a UPS, so I won't loose power at least if someone unplugs the wrong outlet. I put a outlet strip or at least a splitter with 2 outlets right at the doors to the bowling alley. Then I have another strip right in front of the driver's stand. I think it's OK for now, but admittedly, it's not perfect.

What I want to do is build a 'big ass' power cable that I can plug into a dedicated 50 amp (or larger) outlet, that will have outlet boxes off of it every 20 or 30 feet or so, and I'll string that out around the track on race day so everyone has an outlet nearby. The reason I'm waiting though is that something like this will be pretty 'custom' and I've got a meeting this Wednesday to talk to the bowling alley owner about the new track. I'd hate to make that special outlet extension cord for the front track and then have to make another one for the new track.

If we start getting a lot of electric guys, we can open the front (north side) doors that lead directly to the meeting room of the bowling alley, where we hold the micro races, and the guys can set up inside where there are outlets, tables, A/C, TV, etc. We probably don't want nitro guys in there, but electric guys would be fine.

Electric guys could also set up their pits in the beer garden where there are more outlets... in there would stink for nitro because if your engine flamed out it would be a long walk to get back to your pit to restart, but with electric that isn't a problem

For now, if you have an extension cord and an outlet strip, you'll be fine, but I'll make it even better soon, either for this track or the new track.

[Euge]

If I do race, it will be as an 'extra' and I'll just take my car out of the computer after the race is over, so I essentially won't count, but I'll still get to have fun. I'll also stand on the light pole concrete thing instead of the driver's stand, since I don't think we can fit 11 people up there, but I want 10 'real' drivers in the A.

In my opinion, Walt. you should race and leave yourself in the computer, standings and whatever. Maybe you should just pass on the trophy though. At RSJ's trophy races, RSJ employees can race, and they count in the final results, but they don't get a trophy. So if an RSJ employee finished first, then 2nd place guy would get the top trophy and so forth. I was always fine with that system, but that's just my opinion.

yeah, that sucks about that one guy cheating. Bad marshalling or not, I agree that that wasn't a good reason for that guy. If I were you, I'd do what you did by docking laps, or just delete him from the race. Too bad that someone has to do something like that.

[Nexus]

walt.

definitely race...just like euge mentioned....rsj had it where employees raced but couldn't take home the trophy :rolleyes:

thanks for the track info...

i have no knowledge of being an electrician or anything but you said the circuit breaker was rated about 20-25 amps....does that mean if more then 5 electric guys are charging at 5-6amps each the circuit will blow? just wondering since i know offhand some people have two chargers and have them both running at times.

anyway..man i forgot how big the track is...can't wait...it should be a blast!!

[Rookie Solara]

I think I have a bad news here for those (including me and nexus) who has the Team Assoicate Reedy PRO charger....

They have the full recall of this charger......and said DO NOT use the charger anymore......however, no further information of what that is all about and do we have a full refund or get a new charger of the same type....

All I know is....I have a BOMB in my house now....and I just sold one yesterday to someone in TEXAS, and I feel bad to him....I didn't know that untill Albert told me this morning...

Here is the link....

Product Safety Recall Notice: #611 Reedy Quasar Pro Charger (http://www.teamassociated.com/)

I am not sure about ppl like WALT, RICK and others who use the same exact internal charger but with different case (like the INTEGY one)......will be benifit in this recall, but I think they should email INTEGY and make sure theirs are NOT having the same problem.........

On my charger...I never had the problem like they mention.

[Walt]

walt.

definitely race...just like euge mentioned....rsj had it where employees raced but couldn't take home the trophy :rolleyes:

thanks for the track info...

i have no knowledge of being an electrician or anything but you said the circuit breaker was rated about 20-25 amps....does that mean if more then 5 electric guys are charging at 5-6amps each the circuit will blow? just wondering since i know offhand some people have two chargers and have them both running at times.

anyway..man i forgot how big the track is...can't wait...it should be a blast!!

You've got to do a conversion to 'watts' (power) to determine if you'll blow the circuit breaker. That 25 amp breaker is at 120 volts... when you charge at 5 amps that's only at whatever your pack voltage is. Let's say you have guys charging 6-cell packs at 5 amps and the peak voltage is 10 volts (to make the math easy). 10 volts is 1/12th of 120 volts, so you can have closer to 50 guys charging before you will blow the circuit... this is an oversimplification, as the efficiency of the chargers should be taken into account, but many, many more than 5 can be charging before we'll have a problem. Soldering irons all on at the same time are actually more of an issue, but we should still be OK.

Remember that your 'real' car is nearby though, so you can hook your charger up to your car battery if you want to make sure that a temporary power failure doesn't shut off your charger right in the middle of the cycle... I'd actually recommend that, mostly for the case where someone unplugs an extension cord that you are on, but it really shouldn't be a problem no matter what.

[Nexus]

ah....thanks for the clarification...hopefully no one kicks the cord.

i really don't like hooking up my charging to my car :P

[Walt]

ah....thanks for the clarification...hopefully no one kicks the cord.

i really don't like hooking up my charging to my car :P

I know... I realize that the electricity is a minor problem at our track. I promiss that I'll have a fix for it, either once we have the new track, or once I learn for sure that we're not getting a new track (I'm hoping for option number 1).

[AKA_GEN_VOODOO]

There is 1 interesting point while we were on the A's....I think a guy was running right in front of me got some "PENALTY STOP" several times, ordered by someone down below the driver stand (I don't want to name that judge)....and he pulled over to the side of the track and do a "stop and go" several times right in front of me, and that made me pulled a complete stop cause he need to do that STOP and GO thing.....and I realized that my brakes failed cause I forgot to install my brake linkage.....caused me a tab behind his rear....

Do we have this STOP and GO penalty enforcing now? Are we really that "PRO" and somehow, we have a side JUDGE on the track? But not naming that driver, what caused that penalty?

And I thought I was ended up A4 on the A-main, and Walt was 34 laps with someone...but now, I ended up A3 with Nick's car got -3 laps (ended up just some seconds behind me) after the adjustment.....is he the penalty driver? What did he do?

By looking at his time slip.....he pulled some 23 sec laps on the main (23.19 fastest lap.....I think that is the fastest time for 200mm TC at TP yesterday beside Tony's 1/8th 22sec lap)..........is that some error that? But he did that twice so I believed he did pull some really quick lap on the main.... nicks fast laps did not count he did not drive the entire course and thats how he turned low lap times and thats why he was knocked three laps, three cuts will cost anyone who cuts the track three laps. as far as why he did it, you need to ask him. as far as this topic go's END IT NOW dont start (not saying you are) any rumors. if you would like to know ask nick. he is the only one that can give you a reason. i dont mean to go off but it's not fair to nick i know why, because he told me, i dont agree with him, but its not my place to say anything other than what i did already. and i know im going to pay for this quote.

[chicago rc]

I hope you all found the photos from Sunday, I posted them on chicagorc.com soon after race day ended. The link is on the homepage.

I have to say, I am glad I invested in the brushless setup. I missed the 1st qual due to my backup crystals being from a JR radio I have, they do not work with Futaba! In race 2 my steering servo died. Hi-Tec metal gear, what the heck? I have had so many servos go bad on me, am I the only one that this happens too? These things aren't cheap. Time to write a letter to hi-tec!

Race 3 went good for me, Euge stayed ahead with foams. In the A main he tried rubber tires again and could not keep up. He is a much better driver than I am so I suggest he use rubber tires from now on when I am racing with him :)

I will shoot out a newsletter / flyer to try and drum up some more people for the trophy race, more specifically the electric guys. There is good racing already, 8 guys last Sunday in electric! And that guy Pat, holy cow was he he fast. Great job Walt on an awesome day of racing!!!

Brian
www.chicagorc.com

[chicago rc]

http://www.chicagorc.com/images/rookie1.jpg

Now that's concentration!

Can you hear what he is thinking, "I hope I can be as fast as Brian someday, man is that guy fast!"

[Rookie Solara]

http://www.chicagorc.com/images/rookie1.jpg

Now that's concentration!

Can you hear what he is thinking, "I hope I can be as fast as Brian someday, man is that guy fast!"

Dude....I was thinking..."I hope I am driving a T-maxxx or Savage so I can ran over BRIAN's brushless someday.....man is that guy slow!"

Wow...that is some good looking picture of me.......too bad, I was wearing a POWERED by MUGEN Polo shirt inside....(Yes, I was...)

[Nexus]

i thought that was Masami for a second LOL :eek:


Hi-Tec metal gear, what the heck? I have had so many servos go bad on me, am I the only one that this happens too? These things aren't cheap. Time to write a letter to hi-tec!

The main problem...atlteast in my opinion...is that you are using Hi-Tec servos. I would use nothing but JR or KO servos...I honestly can't believe the Hi-Tec ones are breaking on your electric tc3...that's nuts. if you want an excellent servo at a low price....get a JR Racing Z590 metal gear servo. they only run 39.99 brand new and it's one tough servo....euge and i ran one in our offroad vehicles...switched them to our tc3's and ran them for over a year...maybe 1.5 years. i know i used mine for an entire indoor carpet season and all of the outdoor season in my TC3 last year.

http://horizon.hobbyshopnow.com/products/description.asp?prod=JRPSZ590

look at the specs...for 40 bucks you can't beat it...

Torque: 85 oz/in at 6V
Speed: .15 sec/60° at 6V
Dimensions: 0.73 x 1.55 x 1.46in
Weight: 1.6 oz
Motor Type: 3-pole ferrite
Gears: metal

this will help you beat rookie LOLOL

[Rookie Solara]

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this will help you beat rookie LOLOL

Masamisan...? Ha ha.....I wish I drive 1/100 as good as he is....I read his recent race report in HK elect open....raced his new prototype YOKOMO TC with 19T motor....came from 11th position and ended up 2nd against all 8T and 7T racers.....since he was a guest racer, he donated his YOKOMO (not even release yet) the the local HK RC shop as a demo.....what a racer.

Hi-Tec servo.........the only person that has no problem with them is WALT....
I am all Futaba guy, but I knew JR and KO are just as good....but KO is a bit pricey.

[Rookie Solara]

For those who drive NTC3........I have about 8 set of Factory Team TC3 rear Version 2 suspension in stock, I will bring them to the 16th race, so if you are in the market for the update version, let me know at the track.

Meanwhile, contract Al's hobby shop (attn CHIPS) for the V2 if you cannot wait untill 16th.....or you can always email me.

http://www.teamassociated.com/newprod/2004/2319_ver2upgrade.600.jpg

[Euge]

Race 3 went good for me, Euge stayed ahead with foams. In the A main he tried rubber tires again and could not keep up. He is a much better driver than I am so I suggest he use rubber tires from now on when I am racing with him :)

Brian, you drove excellently on sunday, especially considering you missed the first qualifier and didn't get to practice. That brushless you were driving looked pretty good. Our fast laps were very close, so I think I should race foams against you. :) I only hope I can keep up with you as you wasted me in the A1 main. (anyone interested in buying some used rubber tires? heheheh)
Looks like it'll be a season of great racing.

[chicago rc]

Thanks for the advice on the servos. I will pick up 1 or 2 ASAP.

[kakolitoy]

Rookie: If you have a chance in one of the Saturdays, stop by @ HTOP and give me a friendly challenge. Peter is not here anymore I cannot race by myself in the 235 class.My 835 should be ready, I do not want to race you with my 8th scale its just not fair. If I lose a few times its ok just to give me practice, challenge, and chance before the MWS in Racine and Chicago. Just let me know which Saturday you will be able to race so I can bring my 835 that day.

[Walt]

I have actually had some problems myself with Hitech servos, but my problems have been all 'poor centering' after only a short amount of use, and actually, that only seems to bother me in carpet racing... I sort of expect to have to 'steer' my nitro car all the way down the straightaway, but not my 1/12th car or carpet touring car.

I actually bought a JR servo for my 1/12th car and really like it, and I also have one in my electric touring car. I'll probably be upgrading the steering servo in my nitro touring car before too long, but for now it's still working alright.

And Howard, save one of those factory team rear conversions for me. I never liked the rear setup on the NTC3, so I was planning on changing over anyways. Actually, when I looked at my car last night I noticed that the rear toe was totally messed up on my car. It doesn't take much to mess up the settings on the original NTC3 rear end.

And Chip at Al's is now referring to that Sirio engine I ran on Sunday as the 'Walt motor' because a couple of guys have come in since Sunday and asked to get the same engine I was running, so appearantly at least a couple of guys were impressed by what they saw out there.. actually, I was pretty happy with the way my new engine ran, but not the way my car was handling, but I'll get it better. The nice thing is that I was still being easy on that engine since it's not fully broken in, so I think it's got a little left in it as I tune it in, and for under $175, it's a pretty good deal.

Did anyone have the new Novarossi (or Novarossi-based) small block .15's out there? I didn't have a chance to look around at anyone's set up.

[chicago rc]

OK. Electric is a blast but to get out of the house for an entire Sunday and only race in one class is killing me! I need a Nitro TC. Howard, sell me something. If anyone is selling a nitro TC let me know.

Brian
www.chicagorc.com

[Nexus]

brian....you have a brushless........run in the nitro class! LOL maybe you can make 10mins runtime :P


he donated his YOKOMO (not even release yet) the the local HK RC shop as a demo.....what a racer

do you really think he paid for that... :p LOL

[Rookie Solara]

brian....you have a brushless........run in the nitro class! LOL maybe you can make 10mins runtime :P

do you really think he paid for that... :p LOL

Nexus....he donated his PROTOTYPE CAR that NO ONE in this world beside YOKOMO and himself has, that is NOT MONEY, that is GOLD.... but of course, that car is in display now and it is NOT for sale (told by Yokomo and Masami)with Masamisan signature over the body and box.

[Rookie Solara]

Rookie: If you have a chance in one of the Saturdays, stop by @ HTOP and give me a friendly challenge. Peter is not here anymore I cannot race by myself in the 235 class.My 835 should be ready, I do not want to race you with my 8th scale its just not fair. If I lose a few times its ok just to give me practice, challenge, and chance before the MWS in Racine and Chicago. Just let me know which Saturday you will be able to race so I can bring my 835 that day.

I wish I could, this SAT, I will stop by and run some testing for REX's R40 and Scott's 705....then I am done with HTOP....not that I don't want to race there, SAT is impossible for me to race now after J-LO is born, my only day off (every 2 weeks only) is SUNDAY for Race...so TP is my only stop for both 200 and 235....

I still think TP is the track to do 235mm....beside I was giving you the run of your money with your 950 and those HPI on last SUNDAY untill the main, no one fuel for me and I was ran out of fuel after about 6 minutes and like 2 laps after the race was started...

Anyhow, MWS in Chicago is questionable for me....can't race on SAT again, but I will try to have someone look after the baby for me....at least for that day.

[Rookie Solara]

.....
And Howard, save one of those factory team rear conversions for me. I never liked the rear setup on the NTC3, so I was planning on changing over anyways. Actually, when I looked at my car last night I noticed that the rear toe was totally messed up on my car. It doesn't take much to mess up the settings on the original NTC3 rear end........

You know the most answered question for me on last sunday was....."Is that the NEW NTC3 V2 Factory Team? NO NO NO, my car is NOT the FT NTC3...again NO NO NO..."
Then, the most questioned answer for me on last sunday was..."YES YES YES, I will have the FT NTC3 rear suspension upgrade by 16th....again, YES YES YES...."
So don't worry, I already did save you one before you asked me....but I think I have like 4 set left at the track...first come first serve, and HIGH BIDDER will take them all...LOL

I have to have ALBERT come here to answer all these question on the 16th...I can't do that anymore, I missed the 2nd, 3rd heat by 30 sec, then I think I missed marshelling 1 time (which I told you that) and I have to have someone marshell me on the MAIN cause I have 3 ppl around me wanting to get parts....

.....And Chip at Al's is now referring to that Sirio engine I ran on Sunday as the 'Walt motor' because a couple of guys have come in since Sunday and asked to get the same engine I was running, so appearantly at least a couple of guys were impressed by what they saw out there.. actually, I was pretty happy with the way my new engine ran, but not the way my car was handling, but I'll get it better. The nice thing is that I was still being easy on that engine since it's not fully broken in, so I think it's got a little left in it as I tune it in, and for under $175, it's a pretty good deal.........

For $139.......that is a STEAL, the engine is NOT as powerfull as I thought, but again....$139, can't complaint...........beside, I am done for the rotary carb, I placed a Nova Rossi Slide carb on it....the whole idling and high/low end problem solved, not to mention, I realized that I did not have the rotary carb is open wide enough on last SUNDAY, no wonder I feel the engine is lack for low, mid and high end....I can live with the standard shaft, that is the beauty of NTC3....

.....Did anyone have the new Novarossi (or Novarossi-based) small block .15's out there? I didn't have a chance to look around at anyone's set up..........
Who would buy one....cheapest one on the web is like good $270, but I saw several 710s running with that on the HK website video....they said that is a ROCKET engine, worth every single panny, and they have dynoed that engine at 1.83HP at 40,000 rpm (most 12 engine can reach 1.8 HP are usually at 43000 to 45000 rpm), that is way way faster then the SIRIO 15 that we have, and 12 small block can have HP like that are Nova MAX NS5 or JP X12....both are retail $450 plus each...
However, they said NS15 wear WAY faster too....new conrod almost every 2-3 races and several ppl owns that engine already required new P/S.

Nothing is perfect, you want monster power, you have to pay for it....beside, I don't see TP will ever see the USE of any motor that is more then 1.6HP....with the last week technical layout, I am thinking to gear it down to gain some low-end torque........on the straight, I don't see 1 single car last sunday that is extremely faster then the rest of us....(ok...Mike's crazy 1/8th HPI PROCEED does not count...)

[Rookie Solara]

OK. Electric is a blast but to get out of the house for an entire Sunday and only race in one class is killing me! I need a Nitro TC. Howard, sell me something. If anyone is selling a nitro TC let me know.

Brian
www.chicagorc.com

I don't sell POS car like MUGEN or Radio Shack RC car...I had the NTC3 brand new for sale last time............but now, it belongs to someone called "Jim", and he said he won 26 out of 30 races for those dirt oval race (using NTC3 too..)

He just want to buy a new one for TINLEY PARK, he sounds like he is fast...but will see.

[kakolitoy]

I wish I could, this SAT, I will stop by and run some testing for REX's R40 and Scott's 705....then I am done with HTOP....not that I don't want to race there, SAT is impossible for me to race now after J-LO is born, my only day off (every 2 weeks only) is SUNDAY for Race...so TP is my only stop for both 200 and 235....

I still think TP is the track to do 235mm....beside I was giving you the run of your money with your 950 and those HPI on last SUNDAY untill the main, no one fuel for me and I was ran out of fuel after about 6 minutes and like 2 laps after the race was started...

Anyhow, MWS in Chicago is questionable for me....can't race on SAT again, but I will try to have someone look after the baby for me....at least for that day.


TP is the track for 235. Tp is too technical for 8th scale, it was so hard to turn. I put 100% caster already and softer suspension and I still have lack of steering. 235 would be easier to turn @ TP. Next time I race there I will just stick with my 835. My 950 will work for Racine and Chicago MWS.

[Nexus]

Walt.

Forgot to answer this a few posts back...I did do some graphics and flyers for other trophy races. I'd be glad to put one together for the next trophy race you hold.

In my opinion it helps bring in more entries...people actually see the details and you are able to print the flyer out and drop them off at hobby stores...or post them on messageboards.

Anyway...let me know if you want to work one out.
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Just wondering....does ROAR/NORCCA ect have a .12 engine rule for 1/10 Nitro? Just wondering...I know most of you don't attend those big races...but I thought I heard that before. I thought I heard walt mention he might try to hit some national races in the future.

[AKA_GEN_VOODOO]

Ok guys i am going to change the track layout at the off road track in tinley this is what it is goin to look like. also did you like the one i did fo the onroad track, some said it was good, some said they would like to see somthing else. if you have any layout thoughts let me know, you can email them to me at merlinglowplugs@aol.com ok i cant shrink the file,i dont know how . i will be back

[AKA_GEN_VOODOO]

Ok Here It Is

[g12314]

I thought the onroad track was great. Long straight for the speed junkie, plus a great technical part to develop car setup and control skills.

Jimmy

[Euge]

darnit. I just realized that i had a baptism going on next sunday (not my own). Walt, any interest in having the trophy race in the St Nicholas church parking lot in Evanston for just that day? heheheheheh

[chicago rc]

I have some family coming in from out of town so I think I am out too. The electric class is falling apart! I may be able to do some negotiating with the wife and get away, right now I am not sure. Either way, I will send out a newsletter to remind people about the trophy race.

Brian
www.chicagorc.com

[Walt]

Walt.

Forgot to answer this a few posts back...I did do some graphics and flyers for other trophy races. I'd be glad to put one together for the next trophy race you hold.

In my opinion it helps bring in more entries...people actually see the details and you are able to print the flyer out and drop them off at hobby stores...or post them on messageboards.

Anyway...let me know if you want to work one out.
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Just wondering....does ROAR/NORCCA ect have a .12 engine rule for 1/10 Nitro? Just wondering...I know most of you don't attend those big races...but I thought I heard that before. I thought I heard walt mention he might try to hit some national races in the future.

Like I had said before, I am interested in putting out flyers, I just don't have the time to do it. If anyone wanted to help me out, I'd gladly take it. We'll work something out for the next race.

And yes, ROAR does have a .12 engine rule for nitro touring cars. They also have a bunch of other, more specific rules, like the number of ports, and the dimensions of those ports. They also didn't allow 'turbo' style plugs, but they recently changed that rule. I think I also mentioned that I'll need a decent 'ROAR-legal' engine later on this summer if I want to run the Midwest Series and/or the nationals at the end of the summer. I have a few ROAR-legal engines already, but I don't know if any of them are in very good shape.

And, it's because of the 'complexity' of inspecting to ROAR rules that I don't do it... there is no way to inspect any of the ROAR stuff without at least pulling the head off.. no way I'm doing that on every Sunday, or even at our once per month trophy races. That's way it's a 'small block' only rule... no point in having a rule that I can't enforce.

[Nexus]

walt...i'll chat with you about it on sunday.

hopefully the electric field will be good....sorry to see brian and euge can't make it.

if everything goes right i should be coming up to tinley with 1 or 2 other electric guys.

[Rookie Solara]

Just realized that MID WEST SERIES #1 (Wisconsin) is running this weekend as well....oh well, better chance for me then.... :)

[kakolitoy]

# 1 MWS is this weekend :eek: Way not ready, finals next week. Usually, they start in Ohio. Oh well, just get ready for Chicago!!! :cool:

[Rookie Solara]

Race #1 Racine, Wisconsin May 15-16
Race #2 Chicago, Illinois June 12-13
Race #3 Mentor, Ohio July 10-11
Race #4 Detroit, Michigan August 14-15
Race #5 Cincinnati, Ohio September 11-12
Race #6 Toledo, Ohio October 2-3

Ohio is Race #3....

[Walt]

walt...i'll chat with you about it on sunday.

hopefully the electric field will be good....sorry to see brian and euge can't make it.

if everything goes right i should be coming up to tinley with 1 or 2 other electric guys.

Electric should be interesting.. I've got trophies for the top 13 in each class, and we haven't pulled in 13 in the electric class yet I don't think... you might all go home with a trophy, which is fine by me.

I put a brushless motor in my TC3 just now. My brother is planning on running it on Sunday, so there's one more entry in the electric class.

[Walt]

# 1 MWS is this weekend :eek: Way not ready, finals next week. Usually, they start in Ohio. Oh well, just get ready for Chicago!!! :cool:

Who needs the Midwest Series when you've got the Chicagoland R/C Raceway series? Just kidding... I'm actually hoping to run in the Chicago Midwest Series race, but if we have new asphalt by then I probably won't be able to tear myself away from Tinley for even a single weekend. Plus, the wife isn't entirely happy about Sunday racing... Saturday AND Sunday racing is probably worse.

But I do really want to make the nitro touring car nationals at the end of this summer... that would be fun... I think it's in Texas, but I don't remember for sure right now, and I'm too tired to look it up... it's past my bed time (up late installing the brushless system).

[kakolitoy]

Who needs the Midwest Series when you've got the Chicagoland R/C Raceway series? Just kidding... I'm actually hoping to run in the Chicago Midwest Series race, but if we have new asphalt by then I probably won't be able to tear myself away from Tinley for even a single weekend. Plus, the wife isn't entirely happy about Sunday racing... Saturday AND Sunday racing is probably worse.

But I do really want to make the nitro touring car nationals at the end of this summer... that would be fun... I think it's in Texas, but I don't remember for sure right now, and I'm too tired to look it up... it's past my bed time (up late installing the brushless system).


Yeah !!!! who needs MWS if we have TP. :D You might be suprise how many 8th scale racer @ that event. I think its more 8th than TC, so I get to race my 950 @ the shelf. I will race my 835 and 950r In CHIcago, I do not have enough preparation for Racine, also I got 3 finals next week!!

[Rookie Solara]

Electric should be interesting.. I've got trophies for the top 13 in each class, and we haven't pulled in 13 in the electric class yet I don't think... you might all go home with a trophy, which is fine by me.

I put a brushless motor in my TC3 just now. My brother is planning on running it on Sunday, so there's one more entry in the electric class.

Wow...never thought about that...I need to borrow SOMEONE's ELECT TC....Brian, since you are not racing, can I borrow your Brushless TC3? If I win any trophy, you can have it....LOL.

[Nexus]

Wow...never thought about that...I need to borrow SOMEONE's ELECT TC....Brian, since you are not racing, can I borrow your Brushless TC3? If I win any trophy, you can have it....LOL.


hmmm now that would be fun to race howard using an electric tc....build that HPI Pro4 by sunday and you're in! :P LOL

[Rookie Solara]

hmmm now that would be fun to race howard using an electric tc....build that HPI Pro4 by sunday and you're in! :P LOL

Ha ha, I wish.........PRO 4 will be coming this WINTER if there are no TC4 coming.......beside, I really can't justified to race 2 classes again....really don't have enough time in between.

On the other hand....I go get 1 1/0th Radio Shack TC car and ran couple laps....I might still have a chance to win the 13th position in electric...not to mention, there might be some DNS or 1 lap DNF racers....

[Serpent Impact]

Hi Walt,

Can I use the Suzuki Pikes Peak body? The one I run without paint then I paint it all white in the enduro race with you. Remember??

Thanks

[Walt]

Hi Walt,

Can I use the Suzuki Pikes Peak body? The one I run without paint then I paint it all white in the enduro race with you. Remember??

Thanks

Mister Impact... so nice to hear from you. I hope you will have your trunk full of goodies this Sunday (I know I'll be needing more tires soon, and lots of people were looking for you at our first race 2 weeks ago).

As far as the Suzuki body goes, we can't allow it in the points series races... it's way too much of an advantage. The body needs to be some sort of touring car body... no wedges and the pikes peak body is about as much of a wedge as you can get, plus that huge wing on the back. I ran one of those bodies last year at the HPI Challenge World finals... man what a good handling body that is. Anyways, sorry... hope you have enough time to throw some paint onto a touring car body. I'd let you use an extra one of mine, except I don't think I have any.

If that's the only body you've got you can run it in the Impact class so you'll at least get some track time. At our normal races (non-points/trophy) we'd probably not care as much if you ran the Pikes Peak body, but I'd still get a regular body if you can.

See you on Sunday.. looks like the weather will be very nice... I just hope that with all this rain there is not water coming up out of the ground again.

[chicago rc]

Howard you can run my TC3 but the steering wheel is on the left hand side of the car, not like HK :-)

It sucks that I can't make it, even if I didn't have to entertain out of town guests I found out my wife had back up plans for me and they didn't involve racing in any way, shape, or form!!!

Is Brushless finally getting the attention it deserves???

- Brian

[Euge]

I wish I could make it tomorrow. too bad I won't be able to.
sounds like it'll be fun.

[Rookie Solara]

I wish I could make it tomorrow. too bad I won't be able to.
sounds like it'll be fun.

Yeah, you guys missed out a lot, especially the elect ppl....never seen a group of 10 FAST elect tc on a single race....

I beleive the TQ of the day (both nitro and elect group) are setted by a ELECTRIC guy......yes, electric took the FASTEST lap time, but I am not sure 100% does elect also took the best 13 laps with a little over 5 minutes as well.

About me.....nothing to say, 3WD finished the A main (4th or 5th place I believed) but at least, I finished......and 30 minutes main is NOT easy, at least I am extremely tired right now....good thing I took tomorrow off so I can recover from the 30 minutes A main.

Would definitely come again next month for the 2nd race.

[thunderbt3]

whats up guys,
I was planning on heading out to tinley from here (NIU/Dekalb) today but I'm caught up in building/perparing a race car to take to competition in Michigan at the end of the week. Whens the next trophy race. My friend that lives in michigan is moving back down here and he races electric

[Nexus]

walt - chicagoland rc raceway.

great day of racing!

rookie...that was Kevin Kane who took the fastest lap and win in the electric class...he was driving one of the new HPI Pro4's.

brian...rutt used a brushless in his tamiya on sunday and did well. almost made me want one when my two 9x2 comms seperated after only 1 run.
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one comment walt....the electrical hook-ups.

on sunday there was really only one main extension cord that everyone fed off. the problem during the day was people showing up at different times kept unplugging cords to get there's power strip or splitter in...then plugging us back in. the same thing was happening if people left earlier. so we would lose power every now and then throwing off our charging or one of my buddies was cutting a comm when he totally lost power. another problem with everyone feeding from the same line was the if you were not running off a power supply the input voltage would spike or something cause chargers to display errors and cut out.

sorry...not trying to sound negative but thought you might want to know what was going on.

anyway it was an excellent day of racing...weather was great...i'm looking forward to the next round...hopefully i'll have better luck.

Are these dates correct walt...just want to try and schedule time off.

June 27th
July 18th
August 15th
September 12th

[Nexus]

Here are some pics I snapped while walking around on Sunday at the Trophy Race round 1.


Team Hurricane driver Brian Jucha wrenching for Rick Devito...lets hope Jucha doesn't run any trophy races..he to fast! LOL
http://home.comcast.net/~anthony.isla/ChicagolandRaceway_TrophyRace_1/brianjucha_rickdevito.jpg


Masami...I mean Howard Lo and some other Nitro drivers on the stand
http://home.comcast.net/~anthony.isla/ChicagolandRaceway_TrophyRace_1/drivers_stand.jpg


Frank S. and the onboard cam set-up!
http://home.comcast.net/~anthony.isla/ChicagolandRaceway_TrophyRace_1/frank_pitarea.jpg


Howard and Albert
http://home.comcast.net/~anthony.isla/ChicagolandRaceway_TrophyRace_1/howard_albert.jpg


Jimmy S. prepping his NTC3 and TC3 for racing and Triple A Main winner Kevin Kane of Team Hurricane
http://home.comcast.net/~anthony.isla/ChicagolandRaceway_TrophyRace_1/jimmy_kevinkane.jpg


Rick D., Brian Jucha, Tony G, in the pit area.
http://home.comcast.net/~anthony.isla/ChicagolandRaceway_TrophyRace_1/pitarea.jpg


Track
http://home.comcast.net/~anthony.isla/ChicagolandRaceway_TrophyRace_1/track1.jpg


Track
http://home.comcast.net/~anthony.isla/ChicagolandRaceway_TrophyRace_1/track2.jpg


Walt actually found time to wrench on his car...great job running the show and racing walt.
http://home.comcast.net/~anthony.isla/ChicagolandRaceway_TrophyRace_1/walt_pitarea.jpg

[Rookie Solara]

Nexus........that is some cool pictures, too bad Brian wasn't here....or we will have more pictures or even some video clips....

Also....did Brian Jucha ran the electric main...? Did he do good...? Like I said, I knew the fastest car yesterday was a ELECT car, and I saw some A main action yesterday (espeically on the straight)........Electric car now a day is TOTALLY different then my old memory of electrica car (when 1500 SCR batteries pro match is the TOP GUN of elect racing...) THOSE things are flying....and definitely faster then my NTC3....

So, PRO 4 did took the A1 yesterday....? So...Nexus, what are we waiting...? I need all your elect skill hook up and just need to have Albert is get me one of those PRO 4.....yes, I did saw that pro 4 yesterday and it does look great.

[Nexus]

Also....did Brian Jucha ran the electric main...? Did he do good...?

Brian J. did not race on sunday....he showed up and was just helping out and watching.

So, PRO 4 did took the A1 yesterday....? So...Nexus, what are we waiting...? I need all your elect skill hook up and just need to have Albert is get me one of those PRO 4.....yes, I did saw that pro 4 yesterday and it does look great.

yea...kev's Pro4 was pretty well hooked up and he made the wins look easy. albert might see two orders for Pro4's come sept!

On a track that is more 'flowing' a nitro would probably be faster since it would be able to keep it's speed up. Not sure if you could really set something like that up at tinley because you would actually need to round the corners off...and with the boards everything is squared off.

On side note....i believe albert is set to open up the doors to his new hobby store in chinatown! :D

[Walt]

Thanks to everyone who showed up to our first points/trophy race of the season. Overall, I was pretty happy with how it went. But being somewhat of a perfectionist when it comes to running these races, I learned a lot and will make improvements.

I do have the results up on the web site now, with the exception of the points scores so far... can't seem to get the software to generate the points totals for both electric and nitro at the same time, but I should have that figured out in the next day or two (after e-mailing the guy who wrote the software). You could figure it out though if you want. I'm giving 50 points for the winner, and then it goes down 1 point for each position.. 10th in the A is one point better than winning the B, etc.

I think it was Nexus asking to confirm the dates for the remainder of the points races.. you were correct:

June 27th
July 18th
August 15th
Sept. 12th

Best 4 out of 5 will go towards the final points total (so you're not out yet if you missed the first), and if you make at least 3 of them you can attend the awards banquet free of charge (pizza, pop, maybe beer provided... if you don't attend 3 points races you can still come to the awards, but we 'might' charge $5 or something to cover the cost of the food and drinks).

And with upwards of 60 guys yesterday, electricity was a problem. We never overheated the extension cord, nor did we trip the breaker, but I did note that I lost power several times. Luckily for me, I'm running a UPS, so all I noticed when I lost power is a 'buzz' through the PA system (and a beeping from the UPS)... if I didn't have that UPS, I would have been screwed! But I feel bad for those that had chargers shut down or a comm lathe go off, and I do need to fix it.

Here's my promiss to you guys... I will have the electricity figured out by the next trophy race. I have been waiting to find out if we'll get the new track, and I should know soon. New track or not, I will build a custom power cord with outlet boxes every so many feet (maybe 15 or 20), so it won't be a string of extension cords anymore. Like I said once before, I was just hesitant to build something custom knowing we might get the new track with new dimensions, etc., but I've got to draw the line somewhere.

It was pretty hard work running a race of that size (that's the biggest turnout we've ever gotten), but overall it went pretty smoothly. The only real glitch I had was not being able to sort the initial grids in order of 'skill'... still haven't figured that one out yet.

And of course, the water (coming up through the asphalt on part of the track). I can't believe that happened again.

Overall, I had a great time, and it's exactly that kind of turnout that is going to convince the bowling alley owner to get us the new pavement.

And 30 minute mains are rough. My legs were getting tired and my arms and hands were 'tingly' from the elbow down. And can you believe that after a 30 minute main, me and Rick were separated at the finish line by 0.50 second? Pretty cool, and lots of fun.. a late nite and long day, but worth it (once a month at least).

[Walt]

Update: I figured out what I was doing wrong with the points totals... now the points score is included in the 'results' section of our web site (last link on the 'index' page for yesterday's race).

for those that might not know: www.chicagolandrc.com Click on 'race results', then the top link 'Onroad, 1st points race, May 16th, 2004'

[T-Racer]

I just wanted thank Walt For a great race on Sunday. I watch and saw everybody having a good time.

I just took on as a Dealer For Twister Tire Company and will have Tires For sale at the track starting Next week not this week because shipment was held up.

Touring Car Tires Special 10 sets For $105.99 no shipping or Tax all shores front and rears

1 set $14.00 or 2 sets for $26.00

See me on Sunday for special order


T- Racer
Tony G

[Hanibel]

I am running electric, and want to try some foams. What have people run at the track this year? I want to get some before the next trophy race.

Thanks

Dennis "Hanibel" Matl

[Nexus]

surprisingly the guys i've run with have been using plaid/purple combo's. but if the weather is warmer and you can get your car dialed rubber tires are not that bad....but i'm not going to start that debate again :P

[xxx mike]

Call him Tony 'always selling somthing' Gagliardo. :p

You and Albert should hook up and build "ultimate store for everything super fun and great price"

I sell tire normal 15 dollar - but for you, special deal... 17 dollar!


I'm just playin' Tony. I always look foward to seeing whats for sale next. :)

[Walt]

I am running electric, and want to try some foams. What have people run at the track this year? I want to get some before the next trophy race.

Thanks

Dennis "Hanibel" Matl


I ran my TC3 last Sunday with 37 shore all the way around (Twister Tires by the way... the ones Tony will be selling now), and the car felt great (until it started to rain, then I don't think any tires would have worked). Frank and I would have qualified 2nd and 3rd in the nitro class.

[Rkmori]

Does anybody know about the RC Car race being held in Desplaines, at the "Taste of Desplaines", Will it be open to anybody, or just members?

[Nexus]

If anyone is looking or knows someone looking for a deal on a nice FT TC3 I have decided to sell mine...check out the following links.

http://www.radiocontrolzone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=168749

http://home.comcast.net/~anthony.isla/Factory_Team_TC3_forsale/ft_tc3_1.jpg


thanks.

[Rookie Solara]

If anyone is looking or knows someone looking for a deal on a nice FT TC3 I have decided to sell mine...check out the following links.

http://www.radiocontrolzone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=168749

thanks.

Getting ready for the PRO 4 that early...? I thought you might want to wait untill September.....

[Rookie Solara]

Good call on Sunday, I will hoping it was not like SAT rain early and sunny (kinda) the rest of the day then rain again........

See you all next week then.......

[Walt]

Good call on Sunday, I will hoping it was not like SAT rain early and sunny (kinda) the rest of the day then rain again........

See you all next week then.......

Yeah, I think I made the right call on this one... it's 11am now, the time we would normally start, and the track is about to get poured on (and one shower has already passed through).

Hopefully we'll have better weather next Sunday.

[Sundog1]

Walt, what kind of gearing has been working with electric cars at Tinley? - Dan

[Walt]

Walt, what kind of gearing has been working with electric cars at Tinley? - Dan

Thinking about running both nitro and electric are you? Might as well... double the track time... as long as the day is still relaxing and fun running two cars... that is the point after all.

Well, I can only comment about my setup, which is a TC3 with the Novak Super Sport brushless motor in it. I had it geared 31/88 last week, which was the lowest numerical ratio I owned (at the time), and I felt I could gear it for a little more speed. I believe with the Novak brushless system I'll be eventually limited by how hot the motor controller gets, and mine didn't seem to be getting that hot yet... I'll try 32/88 or even 33/88 and see how it does.

I have been pretty impressed with that brushless motor so far. They are pretty darn fast. My electric qualifying time last week (rain shortened) was only behind Espo and Frank, and Frank was running a brushless electric TC3 also.

As far as gearing with brushed motors, I really don't have any idea, but you will need a pretty hot motor out there. Something in the area of an 8 or 9 turn single. You can probably zone in on the proper gearing pretty quickly after a couple of practice runs and a qualifier. But be prepared to do a lot of motor maintenance unless you've got a brushless.

See you next Sunday... and bring those glasses... I want to try some more out and pick up a pair for racing.

[AKA_GEN_VOODOO]

frank here i would like a pair of those glasses too also i was running my losi xxxs not my tc3. the losi is much smoother than the tc3, but the tc3 has more rip, i dont think rip is an issue outdoors

[Nexus]

Walt, what kind of gearing has been working with electric cars at Tinley? - Dan

walt's right...to hard to give you an idea because we do not know what motor(s) you are running.

what's this i see now that we are running open class everyone is jumping on the electric class :P

i might be headed out to tinley this sunday with some of the other rsj racers.

[Walt]

i might be headed out to tinley this sunday with some of the other rsj racers.

Cool. And it's not the 'open' class that got me in, it's the fact that I have an electric touring car now from this winter... but I do like the 'open' class, and I really love the 'brushless' concept... I hate motor maintenance.

[Nexus]

I hate motor maintenance

that's exactly the reason i don't run nitro HLEOLOL :P

[Walt]

that's exactly the reason i don't run nitro HLEOLOL :P

Nitro cars don't have a motor, they have an engine...

[Euge]

i might be headed out to tinley this sunday with some of the
other rsj racers.
tinley? thought it was AJ's

[Euge]

Cool. And it's not the 'open' class that got me in, it's the fact that I have an electric touring car now from this winter... but I do like the 'open' class, and I really love the 'brushless' concept... I hate motor maintenance.

Brushless motors are cool, but brushed motors aren't so bad.
last time I ran modified, I had two motors and just switched back and forth between them. So each motor had like 3 runs on it for the day. That way I didn't have to rebuild during the day. But I did have to do it when the day was done, at home.

[Walt]

Brushless motors are cool, but brushed motors aren't so bad.
last time I ran modified, I had two motors and just switched back and forth between them. So each motor had like 3 runs on it for the day. That way I didn't have to rebuild during the day. But I did have to do it when the day was done, at home.

Brushed motors have served us well for many, many years, but I really think that their days are numbered... just like the 'wiper' style speed control (variable resistor)... don't see them anymore either. Never bet against technology.

And don't go to AJ's... my track is SO much better... and I'm not even biased at all... :rolleyes:

[Rookie Solara]

Walt......this SUNDAY does not look good either, but who knows...weather can change anytime.......

If you remember, 12 and 13 this month is MWS #2 race.....is ChicagolandRC is off next weekend..? Make sure to let everyone know.....too bad I cannot make it this year, but I am sure I will be able to hang around though (at least SUNDAY with the baby....)

[Nexus]

aj's...oh yea...i forgot :P


Brushed motors have served us well for many, many years, but I really think that their days are numbered

maybe over time brushless technology will be more widely accepted but not anytime soon....you won't see a brushless motor class taking over a brushed motor class at the big races...nor will you see brushless and brushed motors compete in the same class.

[Euge]

I do think that brushless is the future, but I think it's still a ways off. The hard core racing community has yet to embrace the technology. That's not to say that it won't happen. At the Novak race, it was the first national level race with brushless motors, yet none of the industry's top drivers participated in the brushless class. I think the only one that did was Charlie Sugika (sp?) and he's employed by Novak. All the other top drivers pretty much ignored the class and ran in what is still the premier class, mod foam.

I've never driven a brushless, but I've heard a few people tell me how rough the on/off throttle action is compared to a brushed motor. Perhaps there should be a bit more development with the brushless motor before it really takes off.

[Sundog1]

sorry-just assumed you knew I splurged and got a brushless after talking to you guys about them!

walt & frank - i will have sunglasses with me next week for you! you guys should be protecting your eyes from uv rays, especially being in the sun for 8 or more hours on race day. also, good sunglasses help you relax and concentrate better - i see so many drivers squinting on the stand.
if you want to see the styles, go to www.sundogeyewear.com, look under brands - i have in stock - goggles, golf, and xi. email me at golfdanp@msn.com for specific requests. -Dan

[chicago rc]

Sundog1,

I ran at Tinley with the brushless set-up using 72 spur and 24 pinion. Then I went up to a 26 pinion if I remember correctly and I think I could go 28 even but ran out of time to try. I ran 24/72 in open practice for about 10 or 12 minutes driving as fast as I could on a 3300mA pack. I am sure I could gear up a bit.

Brian
www.chicagorc.com

[Nexus]

sun.

at the club/local level running a brushless is a good thing....no rebuilding, pretty good power, ect.

the only reason i don't run them in stock or mod class is to be on the same level as other people when i visit different tracks....not everyone is allowing them in the mod and even more so in stock.


At the next trophy round I already know there will be more electric guys....some of the people from up north have said they will attend and run open mod electric.

[Walt]

sun.

At the next trophy round I already know there will be more electric guys....some of the people from up north have said they will attend and run open mod electric.

Excellent.

[Rookie Solara]

Surprising enough........my wife suddenly told me I have a go ahead for this SUNDAY race at TINLEY and next weekend for the MID WEST SERIES....

Wow....I must go check my credit card account or check to see if there is some RC car missing in my basement..........what is she smoking..?

Anyhow, I think I am pretty set for the MWS, I will run the 235mm and 200mm....however, I just saw they have some extra rules on the 200mm this year and that need to be follow...

Can someone show me how much is the 1 time ROAR membership fee is...? And I think the first class of race is $25 and extra class is $15 more and so on.....

So, who is in..? I know Walt, Frank, Tony G, Tony O and Albert are all in.....who else...?

For more information, here is their website...

www.midwestseries.com

P.S. Sorry, Mid West Series is for Nitro only............I think electric ppl have enough BIG RACES all over USA already.....just saw a movie clip of the just finished REEDY Invitation race @ Tamiya HQ...............those ELECTRIC cars are GARANTEE faster then my Nitro car...........and those TAMIYA 415 (with the home court adventage) chassis are uncatchable that sunday.....(so does that THAI driver....forgot his name, but he kinda look like me....)

[Walt]

Surprising enough........my wife suddenly told me I have a go ahead for this SUNDAY race at TINLEY and next weekend for the MID WEST SERIES....

So, who is in..? I know Walt, Frank, Tony G, Tony O and Albert are all in.....who else...?

For more information, here is their website...

www.midwestseries.com



Probably no midwest series for me. I haven't heard too many good things about it. I'll probably just run a normal race day in Tinley that Sunday.

I do want to start thinking about attending the ROAR Fuel Sedan Nationals this summer though. Beginning of September, and within driving distance (Ohio). I'm going to mark my calendar for that one (and get advanced spousal approval).

[chicago rc]

I am in for this Sunday in Tinley. I will be trying to run the brushless TC3 and my new (new for me anyway) Nitro TC3.

Brian
www.chicagorc.com

[kakolitoy]

Surprising enough........my wife suddenly told me I have a go ahead for this SUNDAY race at TINLEY and next weekend for the MID WEST SERIES....

Wow....I must go check my credit card account or check to see if there is some RC car missing in my basement..........what is she smoking..?

Anyhow, I think I am pretty set for the MWS, I will run the 235mm and 200mm....however, I just saw they have some extra rules on the 200mm this year and that need to be follow...

Can someone show me how much is the 1 time ROAR membership fee is...? And I think the first class of race is $25 and extra class is $15 more and so on.....

So, who is in..? I know Walt, Frank, Tony G, Tony O and Albert are all in.....who else...?

For more information, here is their website...

www.midwestseries.com

P.S. Sorry, Mid West Series is for Nitro only............I think electric ppl have enough BIG RACES all over USA already.....just saw a movie clip of the just finished REEDY Invitation race @ Tamiya HQ...............those ELECTRIC cars are GARANTEE faster then my Nitro car...........and those TAMIYA 415 (with the home court adventage) chassis are uncatchable that sunday.....(so does that THAI driver....forgot his name, but he kinda look like me....)


It's just so busy lately!!! Too much stuff going on. My 835 is set and my 950 is ready to go.

I am going on the 12 and 13 Chicago MWS. I cannot believe time go so fast when your working. Almost no time to test my cars.

[kakolitoy]

Probably no midwest series for me. I haven't heard too many good things about it. I'll probably just run a normal race day in Tinley that Sunday.

I do want to start thinking about attending the ROAR Fuel Sedan Nationals this summer though. Beginning of September, and within driving distance (Ohio). I'm going to mark my calendar for that one (and get advanced spousal approval).


Walt,

just remind us 2 weeks ahead, so if I am going I need a new motor for my T.C. just post it. I have been forgetting all my Rc stuff lately. I check the zone once in two weeks. I even forget the Chicago MWS.

[Rookie Solara]

I am in for this Sunday in Tinley. I will be trying to run the brushless TC3 and my new (new for me anyway) Nitro TC3.

Brian
www.chicagorc.com

What happened...? Mugen is too good for you now...? (welcome back to the nitro race....and let me drive your brushless TC3 this sunday if it is not going to be rain out again...)

[Rookie Solara]

It's just so busy lately!!! Too much stuff going on. My 835 is set and my 950 is ready to go.

I am going on the 12 and 13 Chicago MWS. I cannot believe time go so fast when your working. Almost no time to test my cars.

I wouldl like to go too....but I just realized that I have no one to pit me whatsoever......I don't think I can race 30 minutes and pit/refuel myself....

That sucks.....

What is the chance that Cherry will refuel us both on the 235mm class...? You fuel me at the 200mm class and I fuel you at the 1/8th class...?

[Euge]

I am in for this Sunday in Tinley. I will be trying to run the brushless TC3 and my new (new for me anyway) Nitro TC3.

Hey Brian, I hope for the best weather wise sunday, but saturday a bunch of us are going to be at RSJ's in you're interested. I understand if you don't go though, since you'd have to swap out that brushless with a brushed one. Looks like the big classes will be stock rubber and stock foam.

[Walt]

Hey Brian, I hope for the best weather wise sunday, but saturday a bunch of us are going to be at RSJ's in you're interested. I understand if you don't go though, since you'd have to swap out that brushless with a brushed one. Looks like the big classes will be stock rubber and stock foam.

Brian's too busy on Saturdays selling cars I'll never be able to afford...

[Walt]

...and let me drive your brushless TC3 this sunday if it is not going to be rain out again...)

Howard: instead of 'trying' Brian's brushless TC3 on Sunday, why don't you just plan on racing mine? I only have time to run one car anyways since I'm running the races... I'll run the nitro car this time around. Even if you don't want to race it, just let me know and you can run it during practice or one of the qualifiers against Brian if you'd like.

I'll bring the car and it will be ready to go anyways, so no need to let me know ahead of time.

[Rookie Solara]

Howard: instead of 'trying' Brian's brushless TC3 on Sunday, why don't you just plan on racing mine? I only have time to run one car anyways since I'm running the races... I'll run the nitro car this time around. Even if you don't want to race it, just let me know and you can run it during practice or one of the qualifiers against Brian if you'd like.

I'll bring the car and it will be ready to go anyways, so no need to let me know ahead of time.

Sounds good...............that way, it really made me feel like a TEAM DRIVER...no need to setup car, charge battery, tune motor...all I have to do is get to the driver stand and race, sounds great....

I will race my 835 and NTC3 this time, if I can race the elect, this will be my first 3 way race ever in my life.....and 3 way marshell as well....LOL

Just check the weather channel and CLTV weather, this sunday, suddenly changed from T-Storm in the moring and rain to party sunny (but still, t-storm possibilty...) At least, I see alittle sun symble there....

[kakolitoy]

I wouldl like to go too....but I just realized that I have no one to pit me whatsoever......I don't think I can race 30 minutes and pit/refuel myself....

That sucks.....

What is the chance that Cherry will refuel us both on the 235mm class...? You fuel me at the 200mm class and I fuel you at the 1/8th class...?

Like what I said, I cannot go to zone as much so this would be a late reply cuz I saw you today.

ReX said he will be there, so there will be no problem for your pit @ 235 class. I am pretty sure Bobbo will be there, he will need a pit guy too!! Me refueling you in the Tc is no problem. I might need a racer to pit for my 8th scale. Cherry is little bit intimidated on 8th scale compared to the other class.

[tazfam2]

hey walt this is Rick D is there racing this weekend........Hell with the midwest series and there roar membership. No one follows roar rules just wants the money.......Need to run this week

[Walt]

hey walt this is Rick D is there racing this weekend........Hell with the midwest series and there roar membership. No one follows roar rules just wants the money.......Need to run this week

A lot of people said exactly that to me, so I will be running normal races this Sunday.

[oohjamez]

Hello everybody, I had a few questions regarding Chicagoland Raceway's 1/10 elec. races. The webpage says 6cells max. Does that include li-pos too? I have been considering trying out some 2 & 3 cell packs since I am getting back into the hobby. And I don't have faith in my old 1500 & 2400s. TIA

[Rookie Solara]

Hello everybody, I had a few questions regarding Chicagoland Raceway's 1/10 elec. races. The webpage says 6cells max. Does that include li-pos too? I have been considering trying out some 2 & 3 cell packs since I am getting back into the hobby. And I don't have faith in my old 1500 & 2400s. TIA

We don't really follow straight rules about anything, but on elect, just try to stick with max 6 cells rules, we don't want to see 8.4 or 9.6v and suddenly no one can catch you.......and I don't quite know anything about elect, what is Li-POS? and 2 and 3 cells? Correct me if I am wrong, if you think your TC can run with a Hobbico 12V gel cell, no one will stop you.....

I still have some 1200 SCR Trinity PRO MATCH by Joel "Magic" Johnson from like......15-16 years ago. :D

[oohjamez]

Yeah i still have my very first rc battery pack... a 1200 Sears Die-hard. it gets nearly 2 minutes of run time. As for li-pos I was referring to the new style of batteries. each cell is 3.6 volts, weigh quite a bit less than sub c's, offer fantastic runtimes, and don't seem to have the memory effect that you tend to get with nicads. The packs are a little bit pricey and if handled wrong can explode, catch fire, bring about the 4 horsemen of the apocalypse, etc. 7.4v isn't too radical is it?

The 12 volt battery idea would be cool in some sort of bladerunner kind of contest though... let some guy in a some cheap beater TC with a bunch of cells try to survive a demolition contest with a bunch of guys with trucks.

[AKA_GEN_VOODOO]

Yeah i still have my very first rc battery pack... a 1200 Sears Die-hard. it gets nearly 2 minutes of run time. As for li-pos I was referring to the new style of batteries. each cell is 3.6 volts, weigh quite a bit less than sub c's, offer fantastic runtimes, and don't seem to have the memory effect that you tend to get with nicads. The packs are a little bit pricey and if handled wrong can explode, catch fire, bring about the 4 horsemen of the apocalypse, etc. 7.4v isn't too radical is it?

The 12 volt battery idea would be cool in some sort of bladerunner kind of contest though... let some guy in a some cheap beater TC with a bunch of cells try to survive a demolition contest with a bunch of guys with trucks.
HI THIS is frank here i ihave the off road track and i help walt out with the on road. walt has the final say so but 7.4 volt is too much. i am familiar with these type cells, and it would be an unfair advantage, not so much in voltage but rather in wieght. also they are quite unstable if handled wrong, and i dont think this is what we need at the track, if somthing was to go wrong. i will call walt tomorrow and let him know of your post and your question.

[thunderbt3]

Sup guys, i had a great time racing on sunday, u guys put on a pretty straight forward, no nonsense race. As for results, when are the results posted on the chicagolandrc.com site? My friends dont believe that i won a race with a RTR :p

[Serpent Impact]

They are call Li Poly or Li-ion. They can explode if charge incorrectly. It have so much weight advantage. I think it about half the weight of sub c with equal mah. And not much charger can charge it, I think Novak make a charger and Li-ion pack for the micro and they recall it. Here the link http://www.teamnovak.com/Download/acrobat/recall.pdf

Amuiy2k

[Nexus]

it would be interesting to see if someone could get a lithium pack to work in electrics tc...

to date i have not seen one done successfully.

oohjamez - if you haven't already...i would just pick up some GP3300s...if you plan to race at other tracks in the area i'm almost positive no one else would allow those Li-ion packs.

Sub C is the standard for racing and your best bet is to race those...if you're looking for some nice packs i would recommend Hurricane Motorsports www.teamhurricane.net .

Hopefully a bunch of electric tc guys will be coming out on the 27th....some of us have been hitting AJ's and doing some indoor carpet.

[Walt]

I think we're going to stick with a sub-c battery rule (6 max) until the Li-x cells have the bugs worked out of them. I'm all for technological progress, that's why I think brushless should be embraced at this point, but I have not heard of any Lithium cells yet that can handle the current of touring car racing reliably. Get some 3300 sub-c's and you'll be fine.

[Walt]

Sup guys, i had a great time racing on sunday, u guys put on a pretty straight forward, no nonsense race. As for results, when are the results posted on the chicagolandrc.com site? My friends dont believe that i won a race with a RTR :p

I usually get the results up on the site Sunday night, but I forgot this past Sunday to bring along my portable drive so I could not get the results home with me to post. I did go to the track today to do some work and got the results, so they are up now (Wednesday night). Sorry for the delay, and nice run with your RTR... and I'm glad you had a good time... that's what I want to hear.

[Rookie Solara]

Guys, race result of last SUNDAY is up...........

And just realized Walt and I at the end won the combined elect mod class, for the elect first timer like me, that is good enough for me to invest some money on the elect TC and the brushless system............

And I am sad to say..........my elect time is actually faster then my nitro time, even though I don't feel the elect car is any closer to the nitro car (in speed)...........but time slip never lie...

[Euge]

Good job, Howard! Electric rules!!!

Hey, looking at the results, I saw one DNQ in elec and one in nitro.
what's DNQ? what happened?

[oohjamez]

Thanks for the input everybody. It's a good thing that I started asking around before I forked over some dough and showed up at the track.

[Walt]

Good job, Howard! Electric rules!!!

Hey, looking at the results, I saw one DNQ in elec and one in nitro.
what's DNQ? what happened?

Those are just guys who signed up and then broke in practice and didn't run a single qualifier. Actually, the electric DNQ guy showed up really late and I said he can run the main, then I put him in, but he decided not to run.

[Euge]

ah okay.
I thought it was like last year. if you don't marshall, you get booted from the race day.....
any problems with that this year?

[Walt]

ah okay.
I thought it was like last year. if you don't marshall, you get booted from the race day.....
any problems with that this year?

Are you kidding.. of course. EVERY SINGLE RACE I've got to yell and yell and yell for marshals to take their positions. It's by far the worst part of my day. I am going to start kicking people out for non-marshalling (again).

[Rookie Solara]

Are you kidding.. of course. EVERY SINGLE RACE I've got to yell and yell and yell for marshals to take their positions. It's by far the worst part of my day. I am going to start kicking people out for non-marshalling (again).

Yeah, tell me about it, I knew I was running NITRO, Elect TC and IMPACT class on last SUNDAY, but I was marshelling WAY more then what I race....I was by marshelling both elect class the whole day, and when I was in the track, I was the only one there....I knew I was suppose to marshell the ELECT #1....but I still marshell the elelct #2 cause I saw no one in the field, and all 6 drivers are on the driver stand and ready to race.........

Good thing I don't have much repair to do on my car (which is not true)....but I was getting SUN BURN big time that day by marshelling at least 3-4 races per heat x 4 that day......it is not fun.

I think it is time to activate those " NO marshell, no race or $10 re-entery fee" rule....

[tazfam2]

you go howard you #1 marshall you can do it!!
:D

[Nexus]

howard winning electric races?!

that's it....now i have to bring out the electric TC clan to tinley again. :) :eek:

[Euge]

yeah, that's crazy. Time to put the world back in order again.....

ehehehhehehe jk howard. congrats!

[Walt]

yeah, that's crazy. Time to put the world back in order again.....

ehehehhehehe jk howard. congrats!

I really don't understand why it's so gosh darn difficult to get guys to marshal. I think the only way to fix this would be to make each driver that comes to my track run a full day of races, so they are the ones yelling for marshals. I know that I'll never make anyone yell for me to marshal after going through this. Of course, that's impossible, but I think that's what it would take.... that or the threat of a $10 penalty and an easy way to enforce it (my marshal chairs with numbers on them). It's just that I'm always trying to minimize the set up and take down effort, and bringing out 10 marshal chairs is just that much more work, but I guess it's worth it if I don't have to yell for marshals anymore.

[Euge]

yeah, I agree...you should do what you did last year. boot them or fine them $10. sometimes people have to learn the hard way.

[Euge]

a crapload of us electric guys are coming to TP this sunday...........we're all gunning for HOWARD! hehehehhe

[chicago rc]

Why don't you use the numbered chairs again. I thought that system was working well? It's one of the downsides to this hobby that the money just isn't there to pay people to work the track all day. People are not used to paying for a service then having to do work (marshalling).

You have a lot of new guys coming out, a drivers meeting should still be held. That is the time to make announcements and share new info. This is where the rules on marshalling should be covered. Drivers meetings are important before any day of racing no matter how experienced the drivers are. I hear complaints of no marshalls but I could not beleive that Walt was not having a meeting before the races got started. I raced with 11 drivers, should 11 of us be marshalling? What if we pay the extra money to run in 2 classes, any break there? Just some feedback from a guy that raced in 2 classes and ran with 11 other guys :rolleyes:

- Brian

[Rookie Solara]

a crapload of us electric guys are coming to TP this sunday...........we're all gunning for HOWARD! hehehehhe

Come on....bring it on, you know you can never pass the CHINATOWN car and the TEAM ALBERT RACING TEAM Factory Driver Howard.....LOL

P.S. I don't even have the elect car yet....so I will race you guys with my micro.....someone want to loan me a TC3 with Brushless...? I will give you the trophy that I will have...(maybe...)

[Rookie Solara]

Why don't you use the numbered chairs again. I thought that system was working well? It's one of the downsides to this hobby that the money just isn't there to pay people to work the track all day. People are not used to paying for a service then having to do work (marshalling).

You have a lot of new guys coming out, a drivers meeting should still be held. That is the time to make announcements and share new info. This is where the rules on marshalling should be covered. Drivers meetings are important before any day of racing no matter how experienced the drivers are. I hear complaints of no marshalls but I could not beleive that Walt was not having a meeting before the races got started. I raced with 11 drivers, should 11 of us be marshalling? What if we pay the extra money to run in 2 classes, any break there? Just some feedback from a guy that raced in 2 classes and ran with 11 other guys :rolleyes:

- Brian

Well, the past sunday, with the # chairs and $10 fine policy.........ZERO delay...I think Walt can tell us how he feel....but I think there was only 1 warning but within 2 minutes mark, there were ppl on their # chairs marshelling already.........

You have to believe that little $10 can do so much about making ppl marshelling.....

For ppl like you and me that race elect and gas or TC and Super class.....usually if you can find someone to sub you or usually Walt will ask for extra help on marshelling...and 10 out of 10 times we will have enough ppl to marshelling...I usually help out marshelling if I don't have 3 broken tanks in 1 race....

[Walt]

I did bring back the 'new and improved' marshal chairs (new 'easy to see numbers') and man, does that work like a charm. Instead of looking out there and seeing no marshals, pretty much all I saw all day was a bunch of full chairs. It's an extra pain to bring out the chairs, but it's worth it. Plus, I did finally hire a crew to do track setup and tear down, so they can bring out and put away the chairs for me.

And to answer Brian's question, if you run in more than one class, it is still your job to find someone to marshal for you if you need the time to work on your car. If I put you in two races in a row (which I try to avoid), then you have an excuse of course.

Having the driver's meeting is also a pain, but I will make announcements if I'm doing something different (like the marshal chairs this last weekend and from now on). I also offer new drivers (and I know they are new because they are not in our computer) a printout that I call my 'driver's meeting on paper'. It has all the information I would go over in a very thorough driver's meeting. Read it, know it, live it. Overall, I will cut new guys some slack, as well as the mentally challenged (Bobbo... just kidding if he's reading this... he's the only guy that didn't marshal last Sunday).

[Rookie Solara]

.....Overall, I will cut new guys some slack, as well as the mentally challenged (Bobbo... just kidding if he's reading this... he's the only guy that didn't marshal last Sunday).

Come on.....Bobbo is just RICH and LAZY....$10 is nothing for him....LOL

[kakolitoy]

.....Having the driver's meeting is also a pain, but I will make announcements if I'm doing something different (like the marshal chairs this last weekend and from now on). I also offer new drivers (and I know they are new because they are not in our computer) a printout that I call my 'driver's meeting on paper'. It has all the information I would go over in a very thorough driver's meeting. Read it, know it, live it. Overall, I will cut new guys some slack, as well as the mentally challenged (Bobbo... just kidding if he's reading this... he's the only guy that didn't marshal last Sunday).



That is very suprising!! @ The Chicago MWS series, Bobbo marshalled @ least twice a heat for NIck and Tom. HuH!! he probably does not care about the fee. Good thing the chairs worked for the rest of the racers.

[Walt]

That is very suprising!! @ The Chicago MWS series, Bobbo marshalled @ least twice a heat for NIck and Tom. HuH!! he probably does not care about the fee. Good thing the chairs worked for the rest of the racers.

He cares... he just forgot once. I didn't mean to imply that he refused to marshal, just that his chair was empty once and when I pointed it out to him he ran out there.

[kakolitoy]

Anyone going @ the Nats. ?

[Walt]

Anyone going @ the Nats. ?

I was planning on going, but then I realized that the Nats are one month before my wife is due, and baby number one was born exactly one month early, so I don't think it's gonna happen. I'm working on permission for Cleveland this Thanksgiving...

[kakolitoy]

I was planning on going, but then I realized that the Nats are one month before my wife is due, and baby number one was born exactly one month early, so I don't think it's gonna happen. I'm working on permission for Cleveland this Thanksgiving...

Family first, and next is Rc racing!!! :) Congrats for the second baby. Wait!! I can predict the future like Nostradamous. Walt will spend less time and money on his Rc stuff, and more saving for his Kid's College, Clothes, Car, Allowance, (Girl) More clothes and shoes, (Boy) Date money :eek: I can go on, but I will stop here heheheheheh!!!

In case you will be in Ohio, we will just follow up on the race reports. Good luck!!

[Nexus]

http://www.rsjraceways.com/Shootout/

Nitro and Electric Classes.

Entry Fees: $30 for your first class; $15 for additional class.
! Door Prizes & Freebies ! 50/50 Raffle ! Feature DVD Movies ! Concession Stand !
Trophies: A Mains 1st through 8th; B-Mains 1st through 3rd.

[Rookie Solara]

I think we spend too much time on RC racing and forgot about RC CHATTING..........

[chicago rc]

Nexus & All,

I have a Monster Jam scheduled for August 29th (Sunday) in Lake Zurich. This one is going to be big. Super crazy obstacle course winding through the skate park, sledding hill to climb, big jump set-up on the sledding hill to jump and land your truck like an olympic ski jumper in the downhill, sled pull, and of course tons of prizes. Team Associated, Pro-Line, Trinity, HPI, Venture Hobbies, and Du-Bro have all donated goodies. Everyone that attends will win something. Entry is only $10 for club members, $15 for non-members, $20 to enter and join the club. For an extra $5 run as many trucks as you like. Monsters, 1/8th scale buggies, mini-t's, stadium trucks, etc. are all welcome.

http://www.chicagorc.com/RC/monsterjam/2004/mj04.htm

Thanks!

Brian
www.chicagorc.com

[Nexus]

brian.

sounds fun...but i don't have any offroad r/c cars.


maybe next year i can line up a HPI Savage :P

[chicago rc]

Nexus,

I figured since you were mentioning the other event that you were planning on going. You should get an E-Maxx, it's perfect for us battery powered guys, the truck is cheap and you already have plenty of 7.2V fuel :-)

More prizes came in for the Monster Jam too, gift certificates for Jim's Hobbies in McHenry and a few of the brand new DVD's from the boyz at Naked RC. This video makes XXX Main look like an I Love Lucy re-run. The video has some good Monster Jam footage from 2003. They will be taping at the upcoming Monster Jam on the 29th if any of you are interested in getting on the next DVD.

Brian
www.chicagorc.com

[Freak e-maxx1]

any one live near tinely park in in it?

[Walt]

any one live near tinely park in in it?

Sure, I live pretty close, why do you ask?

[Scorpiosis]

hey guys, you think you could each write an e-mail to the park district about giving some land for an off-road track? i wrote one, but i don't think one e-mail will do much to convince them...... :(
please, please, please......

[Rookie Solara]

hey guys, you think you could each write an e-mail to the park district about giving some land for an off-road track? i wrote one, but i don't think one e-mail will do much to convince them...... :(
please, please, please......

I know I did and Al's hobby shop did soemthing similar @ Elmhurst IL before they built a SKATE BOARD park............they answer, (1) No extra funding (2) RC is a luxury hobbies, not eveyone can afford a $300 RC car.....

My answer...yes, not everyone can afford a $300 RTR RC car, but almost all those damn skateboard kid around Elmhurst can afford $25 of cigeratte every 2-3days. plus $500 skateborad and gears or BMX, or $200 of cell phone with camera feature and driving their parent's high school graduated gift...2004 BMW M3.....

.....but of course, they cannot afford a RC track, not even a big enough parking lot and be able to host some RC racing at weekend....no funding and no need cause RC is only for RICH ppl.

[Nexus]

Rookie, Walt, ect...

A decent amount of people are planning to hit RSJ this saturday...if you guys can make it that would be cool.


stock/foam

[Walt]

Rookie, Walt, ect...

A decent amount of people are planning to hit RSJ this saturday...if you guys can make it that would be cool.


stock/foam

That would be great, but it's my 7th wedding anniversary... no go. Plans to take the wife out to dinner Saturday. However, her gift to me is letting me race on Sunday, so I should be at AJ's.

[Walt]

hey guys, you think you could each write an e-mail to the park district about giving some land for an off-road track? i wrote one, but i don't think one e-mail will do much to convince them...... :(
please, please, please......

Did I miss the post where you said 'which' park district to send the e-mails too?

BTW, in case you were talking about Tinley Park, I made a proposal to them before starting the track at the bowling alley. They were actually very interested, but they don't have any available land that's away from houses (noise problems with nitro cars)... oh well.

[Nexus]

posted to early...

RSJ will be installing new carpet this weekend and revamping the barrier system...so there' s no racing.

Most of us will now be heading up to Trackside on Sunday. See you guys there if you can make it.

www.trackside.com

http://home.comcast.net/~anthony.isla/hpi_pro4/homepage_image.gif

[Rookie Solara]

Rookie, Walt, ect...

A decent amount of people are planning to hit RSJ this saturday...if you guys can make it that would be cool.


stock/foam

It is kinda good news for me...I have a emergency construction project that I have to take care this week and weekend, so, I have no time to dust off the car or cycle the batteries at all.......probably will take me couple weeks off, then I will need some times to redo the car........
But that is great to hear that Aj and RSJ are ready to go.........just waiting for me to get ready....

You guys have fun.................(Walt, let me know about the 12th scale, don't really want to waste the car that I barely ran...)

[Scorpiosis]

Did I miss the post where you said 'which' park district to send the e-mails too?

BTW, in case you were talking about Tinley Park, I made a proposal to them before starting the track at the bowling alley. They were actually very interested, but they don't have any available land that's away from houses (noise problems with nitro cars)... oh well.

the Chicago Park District, but never mind. all i said to them was that the racers would probably build the track themselves; the CPD's reply?
"We cannot give away land because of law".

[Rookie Solara]

the Chicago Park District, but never mind. all i said to them was that the racers would probably build the track themselves; the CPD's reply?
"We cannot give away land because of law".

Tell them you will have SOMEONE are willing to invest $5-8 million per year, plus RC /Toy shopping mall, restuarant and RC car rental....100 of jobs opportunity and lots of revenue.......plus international race around the world will come to CHicago each year for world or National...........
.........if you have that SOMEONE talked to them and have all the prove of investment............Chicago Park District CAN change ANY KIND of LAW....

That is a good one................."We cannot give away land because of law.." Very very funny................I think this is what they actually mean..."We cannot give away land because you are not RICH to pay us and buy the land instead.......and that is not the law, that is common sence..."

[Scorpiosis]

why don't you write to them? i've never wrote very convincing letters. besides, i bet they just have a program to detect some words and send automatic replies. it's possible to do.

[Rookie Solara]

why don't you write to them? i've never wrote very convincing letters. besides, i bet they just have a program to detect some words and send automatic replies. it's possible to do.

Chicago...? No, I can tell you now...it is IMPOSSIBLE...NO....don't bother to write them, no money, no talk....it is that simple.
Of course, I have a feeling......YOU can make the different, you can also proved me wrong, and make everyone believe you can do that...in CHICAGO.....only if you believe that is possible to have Chicago to build a RC track for us...(or anywhere within 50 miles around Chicago).

[Scorpiosis]

it's not possible. who's gonna listen to one kid, anyway?

[Nexus]

RSJ Raceway has brand new Ozite being installed this weekend. They have also revamed the barrier system...no more islands.

They will be hosting a Halloween Race.

You can keep up to date and find details at their new messageboard.

http://rsjraceways.com/phpBB2/index.php

[Rookie Solara]

it's not possible. who's gonna listen to one kid, anyway?

Of course not....not 1 kid, not even 200 kid....again, it is not the # of ppl, it is the hobby, RC is not a SPORT...it is a money spending hobby, like GOLF., but GOLF is a sport...RC is not.

[thunderbt3]

Golf, not goft?
haha

[Scorpiosis]

hey, gimme some links that'll show how all the big companies like associated and hpi invest millions of dollars on tracks, and how some international races might be held if the tracks big enough.
or we could just try and find some cheap empty space for a track. but if we're gonna start talking about track making, we got to go to the right forum.

[Rookie Solara]

hey, gimme some links that'll show how all the big companies like associated and hpi invest millions of dollars on tracks, and how some international races might be held if the tracks big enough.
or we could just try and find some cheap empty space for a track. but if we're gonna start talking about track making, we got to go to the right forum.

"Zoning/building - board of appeal"...........this is the department of each city/village that TURN AWAY all the RC investor....try them, they can help you.

[Rookie Solara]

Golf, not goft?
haha

This is how Chinese spell GOLF....you are chinese, you didn't know? (oh, I forgot, you told me last time you dating some white chick now and tried to convert to white...my bad...LOL)

[thunderbt3]

yes, i am whitewash hahaha

[Nexus]

Not sure if you guys have been following other forums so I'll post the info here....

Midwest Touring Series - sponsored by Hurricane Motorsports.
http://www.midwesttouringseries.com/

Here are the race dates:

NOVEMBER 13 2004
Revolution Raceway, Oshkosh Wi
www.hobbytownoshkosh.com

DECEMBER 11 2004
Road Rage Hobby Speedway, Greenbay Wi.
http://www.roadragehobbyspeedway.com

JANUARY 22 2005
The Den Raceway, Monroe Wi.
www.thedenrcraceway.com/

FEBRUARY 19 2005
RSJ Raceway, Libertyville Il.
www.rsjraceways.com

MARCH-APRIL 2005
Trackside Hobbies, Brookfield Wi.
www.trackside.com


This series should be a blast to race. It will give you the opportunity to race at different tracks as well as meet and compete with new racers. Hopefully some of you guys can make those dates.

The only tracks I haven't been to are the Osh Kosh and Green Bay tracks....but they are supposed to run great programs up there.

The main classes will be:

stock/foam TC
stock/rubber TC
stock 12th scale

keep visiting the site or this board for updates/info.
http://www.rctech.net/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=52610

[Walt]

Those are some long drives for a one-day race. I probably will only be able to make the RSJ race. Thanks for posting the information Nexus. I'm anxious to see what kind of racer turnout they get for this new series.

One question though, why call it the Midwest Touring series when it's just Wisconsin (alright, and RSJ) and they'll also be running 1/12th? Seems like a better name would be "The Wisconsin Area Carpet Series"...

[Rookie Solara]

Those are some long drives for a one-day race. I probably will only be able to make the RSJ race. Thanks for posting the information Nexus. I'm anxious to see what kind of racer turnout they get for this new series.

One question though, why call it the Midwest Touring series when it's just Wisconsin (alright, and RSJ) and they'll also be running 1/12th? Seems like a better name would be "The Wisconsin Area Carpet Series"...

MIDWEST sounds a lot bigger/larger then just Wisconsin race....beside, Tinley Park is no where near Chicago.....and we still want to call it CHICAGOLAND RC racing...

Again........as long as it works and attract ppl....we would not care.

[Nexus]

i didn't name the series. :P

i already talked to the owner and he's been attacked with all kinds of things like what tracks to include ect...

this is only the first year running the series so they are just trying to get it off the ground at this point. there are plans already to include AJs and a few other tracks in the area.

the big thing now is to just get the series going and from there it will take off..

yea...why is tinley park called Chicagoland Raceway? :P LOL

[Walt]

I was kidding about the name of the series. I just thought it was funny, because when I heard 'midwest' series I was thinking about the long standing 'nitro' midwest series, that has one race in each of: Illinois, Wisconsin, Ohio, Michigan and sometimes Indiana... now THAT's midwest.

As for my track, I named it 'Chicagoland' because I wasn't sure if I'd ever move it, so I didn't want to be stuck with a name that placed it someplace particular. And by the way, what exactly is the definition of 'Chicagoland'? I always kinda figured that if you could get there from Chicago without driving through a farm, then it was Chicagoland... heck, the speedway way out in Joliet is called 'Chicagoland Speedway'. Is there some other definition I'm not aware of that places Tinley Park outside of Chicagoland? Just currious...

[Rookie Solara]

I was kidding about the name of the series. I just thought it was funny, because when I heard 'midwest' series I was thinking about the long standing 'nitro' midwest series, that has one race in each of: Illinois, Wisconsin, Ohio, Michigan and sometimes Indiana... now THAT's midwest.

As for my track, I named it 'Chicagoland' because I wasn't sure if I'd ever move it, so I didn't want to be stuck with a name that placed it someplace particular. And by the way, what exactly is the definition of 'Chicagoland'? I always kinda figured that if you could get there from Chicago without driving through a farm, then it was Chicagoland... heck, the speedway way out in Joliet is called 'Chicagoland Speedway'. Is there some other definition I'm not aware of that places Tinley Park outside of Chicagoland? Just currious...

Well, I knew when I am not in IL (ie, Canada, Hong Kong, or other states), I will tell ppl I am from Chicago.......never Elmhurst, who the heck know where is Elmhurst Illinois....? But lots of ppl in the world know where is Chicago...thanks to Chicago BULLS and Michael Jordan.

[Nexus]

chicago is chicago....no 'chicagoland'. that term was made up by non-chicagoans. ;) LOL


There are plans for that series to expand with plans for possibly MN, another IL, and a few others. From what I know they are just trying to get this thing going in the plans of getting bigger and bigger every year.

I hope some of you can make it out.

Osh Kosh is about 3hrs
Trakside - 2hrs or less

[chicago rc]

Chicagoland is the city of Chicago and the surrounding suburbs. Think about TV ads, Chicagoland and NW Indiana so and so dealers for cars comes to mind. Anyway, I wish all of the energy people spent brainstorming about building the next big track went into getting people to actually come out and race.

What gets attention? Crowds. Lots of people mean sponsors get interested and cities start to pay attention too. If Walt keeps drawing 50-75 people in 2005, it will only grow from there. Banks need to see a real working business plan and showing them proof of income for 2 years helps a lot! Start small, and grow unless you have $50K in the bank that you want to throw at a new track.

Anyway, how was the RSJ Halloween Race (anyone?), the new track set-up looks pretty nice. Those big wood islands were so bad considering how much space they took up in a small area. I like the new set-up.

- Brian

[Walt]

I couldn't make it last Saturday, but I talked to some who did and looked at the pictures. It looks like they have made some real improvements there. New carpet is nice, but those terrible islands are finally gone! Huge waste of space were those islands.

The complaints I heard were: still can't run a race day without some computer software glitches... that takes experience to work through, but I worry that they are using software that's so new. I hope they work that out. They also allowed a class to run with only one driver entered (1/12th mod)??? I wasn't there, but that would make me mad. For this one guy, you can figure that everyone went home at LEAST 45 minutes later, but probably closer to an hour. I think there is a big difference between getting out of there at 10pm instead of 11pm. I think they need to re-evaluate that policy. If I show up this Saturday with my zip-zap, will they run a class for that car and we all go home at midnight? I hope not.

I'm really looking forward to running there soon. Maybe this Saturday, if not, then next Saturday is looking really good.

Oh, and I really hope RSJ and AJ's both start posting race results on their web sites. It's so easy to do, and the racers really like it. Heck, I'm no web-master by any stretch, but I've got some free time during the off season... they can send the results to me and I'll post them! Brian would probably do the same if they asked him (and his site would make more sense for doing it than mine).

[Nexus]

rsj.

walt...the guy running the races is very new....this actually might have been one of his first days announcing. a few of the guys who know RC Scoring Pro well decided they would rather race then work the mic :P especially since the guys are going to the Indoor Champs and wanted the practice.


Anyway....hope you guys can make it out sometime. I know next weekend a good number of us will be at Osh Kosh for r1 of the Midwest Series.

[Walt]

rsj.

walt...the guy running the races is very new....this actually might have been one of his first days announcing. a few of the guys who know RC Scoring Pro well decided they would rather race then work the mic...


If they used Alycat instead of RC Scoring Pro, the software would be so easy to use that they could do both (run the races and race, like I do)...

[Nexus]

I don't see that happening...

overall I believe most people like the features and printouts that RC Scoring Pro give. it was tested at a few national races like novak and i think the snowbirds...and most who attended said it was the best program they've seen.

the 'auto run' thing you run is nice....but i like having the announcer actually announce the race...he's able to say what's going on...if you're getting lapped...ect.

either way...scotty at trackside is still the best announcer around. :P
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oh yea...chicago is chicago...that's it. LOL

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2nd Annual RSJ Raceway Turkey Shootout

http://www.rsjraceways.com/

This is also being billed as a Indoor Championships warm-up race. The OZITE carpet at RSJ is brand new and the same type being used in Cleveland, OH for the Championships.

Saturday 20th
the track will be open for practice from 10am - 5:30pm. At 5:30 we will run the usual Saturday night club race.

Sunday the 21st
the track will be open for practice from 8am - 11:30am. At Noon, we will kick of the 2nd Annual Turkey Shootout! Winners will receive trophies or gift certificates for turkeys. We had a great turnout last year, and hope it will be even better this year.

All the normal racing class' will be run....IE
Novice
Rubber Stock
Foam Stock
Mod Foam
12th scale stock
12th scale mod

[Walt]

the 'auto run' thing you run is nice....but i like having the announcer actually announce the race...he's able to say what's going on...if you're getting lapped...

My scoring software comment was done 'tongue in cheek', but it's funny that you mentioned 'getting lapped'... Alycat has an option to automatically call out when people are being lapped, I just never turned on that option. Maybe I should try it next season... automatic calling will never be as good as Scotty, but actually, I get a little distracted by his announcing... I wish there was a way that the spectators could hear it but not the drivers. When I'm driving, I just want to hear the time remaining, leaders, and maybe messages for people to get the heck out of my way if I'm passing.

Thanks for the heads up here regarding what's going on at RSJ and other indoor onroad tracks. I can't speak for others, but I will make it out soon, I promiss!

[Rookie Solara]

Thanks for the heads up here regarding what's going on at RSJ and other indoor onroad tracks. I can't speak for others, but I will make it out soon, I promiss!

Walter......while I was vacuuming the house for J-lo so she can roll around, my wife asked me this question".....I thought you are suppose to prepare the race on 21st...?"

Bammmmmmmm.............I think that means I have a green light to race that day...woohoo..

P.S.....only thing can stop me is...who's going to paint my body? I hate painting body....

[Walt]

Walter......while I was vacuuming the house for J-lo so she can roll around, my wife asked me this question".....I thought you are suppose to prepare the race on 21st...?"

Bammmmmmmm.............I think that means I have a green light to race that day...woohoo..

P.S.....only thing can stop me is...who's going to paint my body? I hate painting body....

Get yourself a can of your favorite color and paint. Not having a painted body would be a really bad reason to not race.

I have permission for the 21st as well, so I guess I'll see you there.

I also have permission for this Saturday night, but I might stay home just to not 'push it'.

[Rookie Solara]

Get yourself a can of your favorite color and paint. Not having a painted body would be a really bad reason to not race.

I have permission for the 21st as well, so I guess I'll see you there.

I also have permission for this Saturday night, but I might stay home just to not 'push it'.

Wow...back to back weekend racing, I have to asked your wife about baby mannage 101 so my wife can learn a thing or 2.

Yes, 1 sunday racing is good enough for me, i know my envolope, and I will never DARE to push that too far.........

[Nexus]

Anyone heard any more details of Leisure Hours new track coming in spring 2005?

Their website states they will have an outdoor asphault and dirt track...both being 200x100 with a covered 50ft drivers stand!

Then a 125x65 indoor dirt track.

Hope to see some of you guys out this sunday at RSJ

[Walt]

Anyone heard any more details of Leisure Hours new track coming in spring 2005?

Their website states they will have an outdoor asphault and dirt track...both being 200x100 with a covered 50ft drivers stand!

Then a 125x65 indoor dirt track.

Hope to see some of you guys out this sunday at RSJ

I'll be there this Sunday Nexus. On that subject, I posted this at RSJ's site with no response yet... can you give me a ballpark rollout for stock TC (rubber)? I've never run stock with my TC before, so I have no idea where I should be for gearing. A starting point would be really helpful.

As for Leisure, from what I hear they are progressing on plan. They own the land, got permission from the city, and have broken ground. They will open the two outdoor tracks as you stated next spring. The single huge driver's stand will be between the two tracks. They actually are planning on running both on-road and off-road on Sundays. They will alternate between the two tracks, and mandate that all off road guys be 'even' channels and all on-road guys be 'odd' channels to avoid conflicts... we'll have to see if that works out.

They will move their indoor off road track first, but also have plans for an indoor onroad track, but not carpet. It will be asphalt with ventilation for year-round nitro onroad racing.

That's what I've heard. See you Sunday.

[Rookie Solara]

They will move their indoor off road track first, but also have plans for an indoor onroad track, but not carpet. It will be asphalt with ventilation for year-round nitro onroad racing.

That's what I've heard. See you Sunday.

Indoor nitro racing...............EAR GEAR is a must before you drop in those 30% fuel.
I am not comfortable with the ON/OFF road running at the same time concept...imagine how many ppl will be on the stand (20 at the A main) at the same time screaming and yelling and pointing at the same time...not to mention, the radio hit.
From what I know...channel 64 and 65 are so close that there might have a slike chance to get hit.....and imagine, all 20 of us are running from channel 60-80 (all line up, not going to happen but possible)........then what will happen next...?

[Nexus]

offroad and onroad at the same time....and saying one group on even the other on odd channels...i can't see that happening. man....i only have even number 27Mhz crystals :P

for rollout...it's been a while since i'v run rubber/stock......i can't remember. if it's any relation a lot of guys run close to 1 for rollout in foams.

[Rookie Solara]

offroad and onroad at the same time....and saying one group on even the other on odd channels...i can't see that happening. man....i only have even number 27Mhz crystals :P

for rollout...it's been a while since i'v run rubber/stock......i can't remember. if it's any relation a lot of guys run close to 1 for rollout in foams.

Nexus, please email me the Team HNDS logo (I remembered one time you give me that hyperlink) so I can print out some stickers on the T shirt or new body...thanks

[Walt]

offroad and onroad at the same time....and saying one group on even the other on odd channels...i can't see that happening. man....i only have even number 27Mhz crystals :P

for rollout...it's been a while since i'v run rubber/stock......i can't remember. if it's any relation a lot of guys run close to 1 for rollout in foams.

I would think that rollout would be about the same rubber or stock. Seems to me that it would be a function of the motor and track mostly. In any case, 1.0 sounds like a reasonable starting point.

Regarding running on-road and off-road on the same day, I might not have explained it very well. On road and off road heats would alternate, but there would be very little time between the end of a given on-road race and the beginning of the next off-road race. So, while any given race is happening, the next race up will be on the other track, and they might be warming up while you are still racing. As soon as your race is over, they start their race.

The biggest problem probably is frequency conflicts, but more and more you've got guys with synthesized radios, so it might not be that bad. Also, next year we'll probably start seeing guys with 2.4 GHz radios, where frequency conflicts will be a thing of the past. And my understanding was that the channels are placed far enough apart that they don't conflict with each other, but I have heard of 'bad' transmitter crystals that generate a lot of noise on nearby channels, but that seems to be more and more rare these days.

I'm not sure why I'm defending Leisure's plans... I do happen to run a 'competing' track. I actually agree with you guys that running both on-road and off-road on the same day will be problematic. Perhaps they can alternate on-road and off-road Sundays, and our facility can also alternate. So if you want to run on-road every Sunday, you'd end up switching back and forth between Joliet and Tinley... it's an idea. We'll just have to see how it all turns out.

[Bikerdude61a]

Im only 14, but love this hobby. i got a hpi rs4 3. I have beaten many serpent, ntc3, ftntc, ect.... cars with mine. I was and still am running a custom engine and get this RUBBER SLICKS!!! so, anyone wanna come down to aj's next outdoor season and challenge me? did i mention the engine is side exhaust,and i run on the stock shox and clutch? this proves to you older racers, its not how fast ur car is, its how u controll it. so ha.

>Adam

[thunderbt3]

custom engine thats side exhaust hmm.......

proves that u never been to tinley before, ull get your butt handed to you any day

rubber tires at aj's? the track is like sandpaper anything would work. i could get grip there even with drift tires hehe

[1 Bad STi]

Dood, ill race you w/ my 200% aluminium TMAXX :eek: JK

Good to see your enjoying the hobby.

[primuswoostinkinhoo]

anyone who races at AJ's, what do you guys run in 12th scale, stock, 19t, mod? what tires are you running? what size?
in sedan, is there a rubber tire class? is it stock?

[Bikerdude61a]

I just accquired a new Top Fuel Rail car. Does niles still do drag racing? Where can i get some info on that? If they don't, who does run drag races in chicago? Im sick of going down to indianapolis.

>Adam

Top Fuel Specs:
Engine: RB concepts Ex-World champion. .26, 3 hp, 48,000 rpm
132 Drag time: 2.8 sec.
Chassis: Ex-World champion. Scratch Made. Carbon fiber.
Beware

[Walt]

anyone who races at AJ's, what do you guys run in 12th scale, stock, 19t, mod? what tires are you running? what size?
in sedan, is there a rubber tire class? is it stock?

Sorry for the slow response. I run 1/12th at AJ's, although not as often as I'd like.

This year, at AJ's, the 1/12th class is an 'open motor' class, with 8 minute races. So, we run mod motors. Something in the 9 or 10 turn range is about right for AJ's, in my opinion.

As for tires, most guys run 'grey' in the back and 'purple' up front. Size? Well, we usually true the new tires down a little to help prevent 'chunking', but how much is a matter of preference. I generally take my rears down to 2.00" before running them, but the fronts I can usually run full diameter without worrying about damaging them.

As for sedans, they do have a rubber tire/stock motor class. The foam tire class is 19 turn.

Hope to see you out there.

[primuswoostinkinhoo]

oh man, ill never make 8min in mod, but ill sure as heck try

[Walt]

oh man, ill never make 8min in mod, but ill sure as heck try

You can make it. It's just a matter of knowing how fast you can run and still make time. Start conservative with motor and gearing selection, run a race hard, and then see how much you've got left in your packs, make a few adjustments if needed, and there you go.

I tend to gear my cars so that if I run 100% the entire race, I'll dump with about 30 seconds left. Then, I just try to conserve power whenever possible, but I've got that little extra speed there if I need it to make a pass. But if you're stuck in a tight battle, it can be really difficult to keep off that throttle.

When I started in RC, we ran 4-cell 1/12th scale, mod, 8 minute races just like this, except back then the batteries had a capacity of 1200 mAh, not 3300, and we still made time. We just weren't as fast as we are today.

[primuswoostinkinhoo]

well the only 4 cell packs i have at the current time are 3000's but i intend on getting some better ones.

on another note walt, howard tells me you are selling a 12l3? if so i may be interested
if you have pics and a price, email me at primuskicksyerass@yahoo.com

[Nexus]

Just thought some of the people who don't follow rctech might want to hit these races at RSJ.

Sunday February 6th

Track opens at 9:00am. We will kick-off the racing at 11:00am. Track closes at 4:00pm...just in time to get home and watch the Super Bowl.

This is a Trophy Race sponsored by Team Hurricane.

_________________________________________________

Saturday Feb. 19th

Round 4 of the Midwest Touring Series.

[Nexus]

http://www.rctech.net/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=61246

link to the race thread

[g12314]

Sorry to announce the sad news:

RSJ has been shutdown. Details at this time about the future of the track are unknown.

[chicago rc]

Shut down? I just talked to them a few days ago, before I sent out the latest Chicago R/C Newsletter? Either this is just a rumor, they lied to me, or they had no idea they were not going to be able to race?

- Brian

[g12314]

Shut down? I just talked to them a few days ago, before I sent out the latest Chicago R/C Newsletter? Either this is just a rumor, they lied to me, or they had no idea they were not going to be able to race?

- Brian

Its not rumor:
http://www.rctech.net/forum/showthread.php?s=&postid=1546568#post1546568

[Walt]

Just a reminder that on-road racing starts back up this Sunday, May 1st at Chicagoland R/C Raceway (aka: Tinley). www.chicagolandrc.com

The 'big news' is that I've been working my butt off the last couple of weeks to make sure that we'll be able to race on the East side of the bowling alley. For those that don't know, that means on the brand new asphalt! I've checked it out, and it is very smooth. And the track will be pretty much exactly the same size as last year: 185' x 100' with 15' wide lanes.

If you need AC power, bring with your extension cords. I still want more outlets out there, but for now we should have enough to get by.

I hope to see all of you guys on Sunday, weather permitting of course. Don't forget to check our website the morning of any race you plan to attend to make sure we didn't cancel due to inclimate weather forecast.

[Nexus]

I'm selling my like new Factory Team RC10B4 if anyone from Chicagoland area is interested.

Shipping would be cheaper or we could meet to do the sale.

http://forums.radiocontrolzone.com/showthread.php?p=1801139#post1801139

[Satoch]

Obviously this thread has been dead for a LONG time! I hope everyone ended up at www.chitownrc.com for a truly Chicago based on/off-road site.