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flsurf420
11-25-2002, 05:43 PM
my step-brother is 13, he is getting the gs storm. i am getting the nitro tc3. this will be his first car. i am so pissed. cuz he hasn't even driven a rc car yet. i will let him use my rct10 t3 just to get used to a car from a controller like that. his controller has a computer screen thing. while i don't even have one and i am 15 and am more experienced. my step dad said we can both have only 500 bucks to spend(which is too much) for christmas

of course for his first car i told him to get the rc10 gt. which would be his first car ever. he hasn't even had electric. all he cared about was looks. and while we were at the LHS all he kept asking me was "how fast does that one go"

well of course he finds one for $550 which is $619 with everything. and of course his dad said yes, cuz he just kept pouting. he visits us about every other month for a week or two. but in the summer it is like 2 months. he is here for thanksgiving week and visits he grandparents which he hasn't seen in two months after i go to the hobby shop for a fuel tank. and he couldn't get the GS so he sat in the truck and was pouting all day.

I just don't want to see them waste their money on something.

SteveK
11-25-2002, 05:46 PM
I say let him get the Storm, play with it a while, get fed up, and then start using it when he doesn't run it for a while.

Parents who just bankroll their kid's hobbies outright are always a problem, so just do what you want to do and ignore their stupid antics. It's really all you can do.

rc10gtisthebest
11-25-2002, 06:45 PM
Yeah sucks don't it?

Hey i saw your from Margate. I am in Deerfield Beach maybe 10mins away. You couldn't have been possibly talking about RC hobbies by chance? I think i might have saw you there... Cause there was a kid whining to his dad that he wanted the Storm. I dunno..

Shoot me a PM and we can chat...

You would happen to want a Reflex BTW?

LOL

-Todd

Hairball
11-25-2002, 07:20 PM
Originally posted by flsurf420
my step-brother is 13, he is getting the gs storm($550). i am getting the nitro tc3($320). this will be his first car. i am so pissed. cuz he hasn't even driven a rc car yet. i will let him use my rct10 t3 just to get used to a car from a controller like that. his controller has a computer screen thing. while i don't even have one and i am 15 and am more experienced. my step dad said we can both have only 500 bucks to spend this christmas.

of course for his first car i told him to get the rc10 gt. which would be his first car ever. he hasn't even had electric. all he cared about was looks. and while we were at the LHS all he kept asking me was "how fast does that one go"

well of course he finds one for $550 which is $619 with everything. and of course his dad said yes, cuz he just kept pouting. he visits us about every other month for a week or two. but in the summer it is like 2 months. he is here for thanksgiving week and visits he grandparents which he hasn't seen in two months after i go to the hobby shop for a fuel tank. and he couldn't get the GS so he sat in the truck and was pouting all day.

well to be fair our parents had to give one child the same amount as the other. so he already spent his whole $620 so with the extra $100 i will buy my mom something REAL nice. well if you have made it this far, thanks for reading. you can leave your comments if you please:confused: :D

Why not be thankful your getting anything at all and stop whinning about it? Greed is a horrible thing.

MrHorspwer
11-25-2002, 07:35 PM
$500 gifts for Christmas! When I was a kid we didn't even get coal in our stockings... we got rocks. Coal was too expensive!

NitroCrackers
11-25-2002, 08:58 PM
500 all i get is 150-200 from my mom
my dad lives 210 miles away form me but he might give me 150
my stepdad wont get me anything i want (rc that is)

speedydave
11-25-2002, 09:14 PM
Originally posted by Hairball
Why not be thankful your getting anything at all and stop whinning about it? Greed is a horrible thing.

I agree 100% with you.

Distro
11-25-2002, 09:48 PM
Wait till he breaks it and laugh at him.

tadium54
11-25-2002, 09:57 PM
Be happy for him. And you should also be lucky, my maom and dad combined can only spend 100 bucks on a present for both me and my bro. be happy for what you have.

00soul
11-25-2002, 10:03 PM
laugh at him when he crashes it and wants you to fix it for him

slodsm
11-25-2002, 10:16 PM
Holy Jesus I felt lucky to get Hot wheels and a GI Joe when I was a kid. People have way too many credit cards for their kids now days. You got a 320 dollar car at 15 years old for absolutely nothing and you are whining?:confused:

Hairball
11-25-2002, 10:19 PM
No kidding, quit whinning like a spoiled brat already.

flsurf420
11-25-2002, 10:31 PM
Originally posted by Hairball
Why not be thankful your getting anything at all and stop whinning about it? Greed is a horrible thing.

I wasn't being greedy. i was trying to make a point. maybe you should have read it better. i was saying my brother is only 13. this will be his first car EVER. so i told hime to get an easier one, and than upgrade it. and how am i gonna be greedy when the extra 100 i will get i am gonna buy my mom something nice.

I was just reading apost the other day. it was about beginer paintballer with the one of best guns (the angel $1,500) that doesn't even know how to shoot.

i was trying to teach him that bigger and faster isn't always better. he hasn't even had a toy r us car. but thanks for just not reading it fully and put in your 2 cents.:rolleyes:

flsurf420
11-25-2002, 10:32 PM
Originally posted by 00soul
laugh at him when he crashes it and wants you to fix it for him

lol i think i will:D :D

rocknbil
11-25-2002, 10:39 PM
http://www.radiocontrolzone.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=102218

MaxxBlaster
11-25-2002, 10:47 PM
I get where your comin from. It sounds greedy at first but think about it a while. His Step-Brother, who is younger and has never had a car before gets to go $119 over the set limit while he is $180 under it. I don't know what your step dad is like, but all of this could be because he is your step dads REAL son. Just a thought.

Maxx

flsurf420
11-25-2002, 10:52 PM
well i know but my mom has to pay just as much for hime as his step-dad pays for me. hairball just wanted to say i was greedy, yet i went under and he went way over.

Hairball
11-26-2002, 03:26 AM
Originally posted by flsurf420
well i know but my mom has to pay just as much for hime as his step-dad pays for me. hairball just wanted to say i was greedy, yet i went under and he went way over.

Man, wake up.

Your post was written in a way that made you sound like a spoiled little brat. Who cares if he is 13? Does that really make a difference? No. Your not paying for it, so why do you even care?

I should have used the word "jealous" instead of "greedy"

That would have fit the post better. You can turn this into a flame war if you like, but look at what you're complaining about.

S13 Drifter
11-26-2002, 07:41 AM
I have to agree that a $500+ nitro car is not something that should be in the hands of a newbie who has never touched an RC before....

Cheer up dude, a lot of people get worse things for christmas than a nitro TC3!

flsurf420
11-26-2002, 08:25 AM
Originally posted by S13 Drifter
Cheer up dude, a lot of people get worse things for christmas than a nitro TC3!

well ok but for hairball i am not really jealous. because if i wanted it i would have asked for it. i do not think i am spoiled cause all year round i work my a$$ off for chump change, like washing cars, mowing lawns, and cleaning houses and such. This was the first and only christmas i have gotten this much normally. I get only 100. oh and S13 even said that the car should not be in a newbies hand.

Well I kno it isn't my problem that he gets it, but when he takes it to Georgia to live until next spring. He will probably break it and get fed up with it. So it will be a waste of cash and a perfectly good car. And if he ever brings it back down he will just ask everyboby to fix it while he goes in and watches tv. that is the way he is.

i didn't ask for all this money, i am apperciative about it though. I would have have been happy with anything. but i personally think it will be a waste of money when he crashes and doesn't want to fix it. that is my opinion. he will have no more money to buy parts, nitro, labor, or anything like that.

flsurf420
11-26-2002, 08:52 AM
Originally posted by Hairball
Your post was written in a way that made you sound like a spoiled little brat. Who cares if he is 13? Does that really make a difference? No. Your not paying for it, so why do you even care?

I should have used the word "jealous" instead of "greedy"

Well i care because my parents are wasting their money. Look you don't even know where i am coming from. My front door has a dent in it, it needs to be painted (i would but there is no paint.), the pool has a hole in it from rust(above ground) and there is only a liner. We don't even have the sprinkler system fixed. I didn't want the 600 dollars. I would rather they kept it and fixed the house up a bit. I have tryed to get my mom to have a garage sale. Cuz we have alot of junk and carpet.

I am just trying to explain why i was mad that they spent the extra 120 when they set a price of 500. I know i wouldn't have gone over.

rcdestroyer
11-26-2002, 01:31 PM
a newbie with a 1/8 buggy could be dangerous!:eek:

racer13
11-26-2002, 02:33 PM
for christmas this year i picked out my presents and it add'd up to about $600.. none rc related. but my grandma is buying me $100 worth of rc stuff =] and no.. im not spoiled, just every one saves up in my family for christmas.. birthdays, etc are really small

flsurf420
11-26-2002, 03:19 PM
Originally posted by racer13
for christmas this year i picked out my presents and it add'd up to about $600.. none rc related. but my grandma is buying me $100 worth of rc stuff =] and no.. im not spoiled, just every one saves up in my family for christmas.. birthdays, etc are really small

Thank you my point exactly!

MrCrash
11-26-2002, 03:26 PM
a newbie with a 1/8 buggy could be dangerous!
Not if you don't get in my way.;)

4star
11-26-2002, 04:30 PM
Just be happy for him man


Your lucky you have someone to drive with so close to you and is interested in the hobby, what if he just dissed you all the time about how stupid rc is your a nerd etc but instead he wants to do what your doin and you should be happy =\


my 2 cents

racer13
11-26-2002, 04:40 PM
yeah true. like me and my bro both got xxxnt sports, first nitro cars. only other car we had was either tyco or a rc10 gold tub. i researched the hobby for about a year before we got them, so i knew every thing pretty much. he didnt exactly care about it, just wanted to drive it. he ended up letting his friends drive it, WOT into a curb, since im nice and a good brother, i bought all the new parts in graphite and installed them. he does get pissed off at it once in a while, but its nice to have some one to race against at the track when no ones there. be happy what you got, and what he gots. it sucks he got a more expensive one, but hey? he's spoiled and wants something the best. doesnt care if its broken as long as it gets fixed right away.

Skribble
11-26-2002, 06:25 PM
Jus' be happy for what you're getting ..

But when he has problems with his Storm, don't help him so he'll get pissed off and not use it. Then you can probably use it! Rotf. Nah, j/k. I think it is kind of screwed up, oh well. Wish my parents would spend $500 on me for Christmas.

flsurf420
11-26-2002, 07:21 PM
Originally posted by racer13
it sucks he got a more expensive one, but hey? he's spoiled and wants something the best. doesnt care if its broken as long as it gets fixed right away.

that is so true lol:D

TRF Drive Hard
11-26-2002, 08:47 PM
There are a few ways to work this out... you can be a jerk and not help him increase his experience with rc and be nasty to your step-bro... or you can support him by teaching the basics of nitro rc and be a cool step-bro... the one thing i see here is jealousy... so what he got more for the nitro... you got what you got, be thankful... the only person i see pouting is you... youre here posting because youre upset that your step-bro got a better car... sheesh at least be cool about it and say hey "my younger step-bro got a Storm, but has little experience, so i will help him tune his car and teach him how to drive it because im a cool older step bro" people who whin about who got more money is just as guilty as the person next to you... maybe because you and your brother are still young and dont understand the meaning of sharing, or the fact that what was offered can be accepted as something grateful... dont be a whinner... be happy what you have and work with it... and the plus thing about this is now you have a racing buddy, not many people have one ;) so enjoy the life of RC :cool:

-Ted

brassmonkey
11-26-2002, 09:47 PM
Originally posted by TA03 Drive Hard
There are a few ways to work this out... you can be a jerk and not help him increase his experience with rc and be nasty to your step-bro... or you can support him by teaching the basics of nitro rc and be a cool step-bro... the one thing i see here is jealousy... so what he got more for the nitro... you got what you got, be thankful... the only person i see pouting is you... youre here posting because youre upset that your step-bro got a better car... sheesh at least be cool about it and say hey "my younger step-bro got a Storm, but has little experience, so i will help him tune his car and teach him how to drive it because im a cool older step bro" people who whin about who got more money is just as guilty as the person next to you... maybe because you and your brother are still young and dont understand the meaning of sharing, or the fact that what was offered can be accepted as something grateful... dont be a whinner... be happy what you have and work with it... and the plus thing about this is now you have a racing buddy, not many people have one ;) so enjoy the life of RC :cool:

-Ted


Oh BS! The kid obvoiusly does not want to learn rc. If he did he might ask something other than how fast does it go.:rolleyes:

MrCrash
11-26-2002, 09:56 PM
My thought exactly.When I bought my Inferno MP-5,I considered speed,but mainly it was handling and durability (That is why I did NOT get a T-Maxx;) ).If all this kid is worried about is speed,then all he is asking about is how fast it will break,and how far the parts will fly when it meets Mr. Brick Wall or Mrs. Motor Vehicle.

When he is not looking,set his throttle EPA to 3/4 throttle.That way the car will last more than 24 hours;) .

If you really wanna show him who's boss,then hop up your car for speed,once you get the hang of driving and tuning,and smoke his whiny arse.His Storm should top out at 45 MAX,where as the NTC3 with a good race motor,2 speed,and a good pipe can go even faster.

TRF Drive Hard
11-26-2002, 11:22 PM
Originally posted by brassmonkey
Oh BS! The kid obvoiusly does not want to learn rc. If he did he might ask something other than how fast does it go.:rolleyes:

What you dont realize is that he's young... he ask such questions its because thats all he knows... if given the time to learn more im sure he'd ask other questions besides "how fast..." very few newbies are given the chance to even experience rc without any guidence which may lead to discouragement... i dunno why you guys post negative feedback... how does this help others who want to get into rc?

coasterfreak
11-26-2002, 11:39 PM
well, i'm 14, and i know that he's not just a little kid. he obviously didn't learn good values and is a snotty brat. :rolleyes: i know "how fast" is a common question, and i'm not being against newbs, but it's called a hobby, not a toy. i did a year of reasearch b4 i got my t3, with noone helping me:rolleyes:

grewst
11-27-2002, 02:46 AM
I wish my parents could have spent that kind of cash on me when I was that young,,,, I was 30 before I even thought about getting a hobby grade r/c just because of the cost... who cares what he gets you only see him a few times a year anyways, besides your getting a TC3 at 15 you should be grateful that your parents can afford to spend that kind of cash for you to have a sweet car

flsurf420
11-27-2002, 07:57 AM
Originally posted by grewst
who cares what he gets you only see him a few times a year anyways, besides your getting a TC3 at 15 you should be grateful that your parents can afford to spend that kind of cash for you to have a sweet car

i know i am very grateful!

but he reminds me of a little 7 year-old playing games. he doesn't want to play unless or until someone else does. he must of missed kindergarten when they explained "share" lol :D :p ;)

flsurf420
11-27-2002, 08:06 AM
Originally posted by brassmonkey
Oh BS! The kid obvoiusly does not want to learn rc. If he did he might ask something other than how fast does it go.:rolleyes:

Most of the times he only gets thing that i get. like he could have bought a paintball gun. back last summer i had bought my own necklace, and he ran out with his step-dad and bought one. now that i don't wear mine he doesn't wear his. btw i only have known him for 1 1/2 years

S13 Drifter
11-27-2002, 08:51 AM
He probably copies you because he looks up to you. You should be flattered if anything.

MrCrash
11-27-2002, 12:12 PM
lsurf420:like S13 said.He copies you because he admires you.My cousin is like that.At first it gets annoying.Then you want to strangle him.Finally,you accept what he is doing,and like it,because that means that you will ALWAYS have someone who will be into the same stuff as you.Eventually,he will develop his own personality,yet retain several of those likes/dislikes from his youth.You have it pretty good.Unless,or course,he deveolps that personality,but think that you will like him better if he makes up stuff so that you will think that he knows more about whatever it is than he really does.If he does this,just tell him that he doesnot need to do this,and,if anything,it is hurting your family relationship.

(Cousin {you know who you are** ,if you read this,please understand that you don't have to do what you are doing.I like you better when you are yourself)

HauntedMyst
11-27-2002, 01:37 PM
So let me get this right. Your step brother asked for a more expensive car then you and is getting it. Its his first R/C car. This kid, who doesn't get the privelage of living with his own father because the parents weren't able to work things out, which is no fault of his own, asked his dad for something more expensive and got it, most likely because his dad, your step dad feels guilty he doesn't live with his own son. What is the problem exactly?

Wanting the car he wants doesn't make him spoiled, it just makes him want something different then you. My first r/c was also an 1/8 scale buggy. Which of you out there said to yourself when you bought your first r/c "I'm gonna buy something sensible, like a Tamiya truck and then get more expensive cars as I get into it?" Not many. Most people when they get into this hobby want something fast and want something cool that appeals to them. That doesn't make him spoiled, it makes him the beneficiary of his fathers wallet and guilt and this kid isn't doing anything wrong by asking for and getting what he wants.

MrCrash is right. When I was a kid, you did things like the older kids you looked up too. Whether you want to be there or not, this kid looks up to you. Rather then be annoyed, be proud your are someone he wants to emulate.

When I was a kid, no one I know was concerned with what their parents spent their money on and whether they were wasting their money. I did know when my brother or sister got more spent on them and that led to jealousy. Whether you want to admit it or not, it seems like you are jealous of the inequity of the gift. Each of your subsequent posts has proven your jealousy with your readiness to pick on him. If you were getting $120 more, would you have posted anything? Probably not. Jealousy is one of those complex emotions you have to learn to get over as you grow up. Even making the post makes you seem petty, is that the kind of person you want to be? Why not take a different tack and try being happy for him and happy that during the few times you see him, you'll have someone to run with, and more importantly, something in common to talk about.

Follow Ted's advice and try to help him with his new car and be a decent person. If he doesn't take the help, then chances are, he won't follow through with it because he doesn't have the benefit of some one helping him with it and most likely, you'll be able to pick it up from him and it will be yours any ways.

flsurf420
11-27-2002, 01:48 PM
Originally posted by HauntedMyst


Which of you out there said to yourself when you bought your first r/c "I'm gonna buy something sensible, like a Tamiya truck and then get more expensive cars as I get into it?" Not many. Most people when they get into this hobby want something fast and want something cool that appeals to them.
If you were getting $120 more, would you have posted anything? Probably not. Jealousy is one of those complexe emotions you have to learn to get over as you grow up.

But the thing is I AM getting the $120 extra that isn't why i posted. I did buy my first car with my own money.:D I bought a rc10t3 used for 220 with a charger. But he isn't one of those people who like to learn. If he ever will crash it (god forbid) he will just hand it to me and a couple of bucks and say "fix it"! Than when i am done he will kill it buy running WOT into the fence and do the exact same thing.

HauntedMyst
11-27-2002, 01:56 PM
Originally posted by flsurf420
But the thing is I AM getting the $120 extra that isn't why i posted. I did buy my first car with my own money.:D I bought a rc10t3 used for 220 with a charger. But he isn't one of those people who like to learn. If he ever will crash it (god forbid) he will just hand it to me and a couple of bucks and say "fix it"! Than when i am done he will kill it buy running WOT into the fence and do the exact same thing.

So basically, you are being completely altruistic and really just looking out for your parents financial welfare? Given the fact that you entitled this post "I hate my step-bro" and have bashed him repeatedly, I'd say that is a lie. Your jealous. Own up to it.

If the issue is you don't want to be his mechanic when he breaks it, then don't be. Just tell him to fix his own stuff. But really, you have the chance to be the bigger person and tell him if he breaks, you'll help him but you won't do it for him. At least that way, you get the chance to get to know him. But I don't think that is something you want to do.

flsurf420
11-27-2002, 02:28 PM
i didnt say i wasnt gonna fix it. i said i aint gonna keep fixing it after he keeps breaking it and handing it to me.:)

Electrofied
11-27-2002, 03:21 PM
To the 15 year old whom started this thread- You reactions and feelings are valid regardless if they are misplaced or not. I completely agree that a parent whom tosses money at a kid is not parenting. And that a car like the Storm is a ridiculous first car.

I would assume you view your step-brother as an outsider and therefore this has hit you a little harder than normal… Then again If I favored one of my step kids over another they would feel the same.


To those of you which have posted criticism to the 15 year old- I suggest that you grow up and take care of your own issues before you slam someone else. If your quality of life is so bad financially I suggest you sell all of your RC’s, your computer, cancel your Internet service, and use your resources more wisely.

Comments like, “I only have $100 spent on me for Christmas”, or, “You’re being greedy and jealous”, are irrelevant and petty. If anyone needs to do some growing up, it is a few of you whom have criticized this young man.

He is 15… and if you remember anything about being that age or you are that age then you know that is one of the many years we, as young adults, feel put upon by our parents and requirements set upon us.

I come from a broken home, severe physical and mental abuse from my parents, suffer from degenerative back disks causing me extreme pain 24-7, suffer from Bipolar II syndrome, never went to high school or college… Yet I have worked my butt off to better my life and have a great paying job, as well as my wife has too, so we can provide our kids with whatever they need including our love and time. I have little to NO empathy or sympathy for those who whine or point fingers in these circumstances unless of course it its due to a debilitating illness, injury, handicap, death in the family, etc…

We treat our kids equally and that includes all of our resources… whether we have a little or a lot. And that includes our time and love.

I am no goodie two shoes by any means, but your attitudes here are punitive and petty.

I am quite sure some of you will be flaming me for these comments… then again by doing so you would only prove my point(s) even more.

It is fine to disagree with someone like the 15 year old or even me, but to make it personnel is 100% childish and rude.

I may or may not agree with the 15 year-old’s way of thinking, but I certainly would not flame him with put-downs and name calling.

Best Regards,
Electrofied

flsurf420
11-27-2002, 03:36 PM
Originally posted by Electrofied
To the 15 year old whom started this thread- You reactions and feelings are valid regardless if they are misplaced or not. I completely agree that a parent whom tosses money at a kid is not parenting. And that a car like the Storm is a ridiculous first car.

I would assume you view your step-brother as an outsider and therefore this has hit you a little harder than normal… Then again If I favored one of my step kids over another they would feel the same.


To those of you which have posted criticism to the 15 year old- I suggest that you grow up and take care of your own issues before you slam someone else. If your quality of life is so bad financially I suggest you sell all of your RC’s, your computer, cancel your Internet service, and use your resources more wisely.

Comments like, “I only have $100 spent on me for Christmas”, or, “You’re being greedy and jealous”, are irrelevant and petty. If anyone needs to do some growing up, it is a few of you whom have criticized this young man.

He is 15… and if you remember anything about being that age or you are that age then you know that is one of the many years we, as young adults, feel put upon by our parents and requirements set upon us.

I come from a broken home, severe physical and mental abuse from my parents, suffer from degenerative back disks causing me extreme pain 24-7, suffer from Bipolar II syndrome, never went to high school or college… Yet I have worked my butt off to better my life and have a great paying job, as well as my wife has too, so we can provide our kids with whatever they need including our love and time. I have little to NO empathy or sympathy for those who whine or point fingers in these circumstances unless of course it its due to a debilitating illness, injury, handicap, death in the family, etc…

We treat our kids equally and that includes all of our resources… whether we have a little or a lot. And that includes our time and love.

I am no goodie two shoes by any means, but your attitudes here are punitive and petty.

I am quite sure some of you will be flaming me for these comments… then again by doing so you would only prove my point(s) even more.

It is fine to disagree with someone like the 15 year old or even me, but to make it personnel is 100% childish and rude.

I may or may not agree with the 15 year-old’s way of thinking, but I certainly would not flame him with put-downs and name calling.

Best Regards,
Electrofied

I agree 100% WITH YOU! thank you for explaining my point!

HauntedMyst
11-27-2002, 03:57 PM
I have no doubt you will take this flaming, but basically what you said Electrofied, is it's ok for some one to be jealous, whine and bash his brother on a bulletin board over an r/c car. Did I misread what you wrote?

What exactly about a Storm make it ridiculous first car? That it is nitro? That is it fast? If he can start it, bothers to understand its workings, dangers and has open space, I don't see the issue.

All feelings may be felt, but they may not be valid, and real maturity and discussion bears that out.

Is his jealousy and pettiness acceptible? As a parent, I would assume when your kids display such emotions, you would want to deal with them approriately. Do you just say "hey, their 15, they can be petty and jealous, I'm sure they will grow out of it without my help?" or do you call them on the carpet and talk through what they are dealing with?

Electrofied
11-27-2002, 04:03 PM
Originally posted by HauntedMyst
I have no doubt you will take this flaming, but basically what you said Electrofied, is it's ok for some one to be jealous, whine and bash his brother on a bulletin board over an r/c car. Did I misread what you wrote?

What exactly about a Storm make it ridiculous first car? That it is nitro? That is it fast? If he can start it, bothers to understand its workings, dangers and has open space, I don't see the issue.

All feelings may be felt, but they may not be valid, and real maturity and discussion bears that out.

Is his jealousy and pettiness acceptible? As a parent, I would assume when your kids display such emotions, you would want to deal with them approriately. Do you just say "hey, their 15, they can be petty and jealous, I'm sure they will grow out of it without my help?" or do you call them on the carpet and talk through what they are dealing with?

Either you did miss my point or I was not clear... It is not our place to call him names. That is the basic point. Especailly when hteir/our own lives are not perfect.


Take your post to me for example... you politely disagree with me yet you did not slam me. Difference of opinion is GREAt as long as it is not accompanied/peppered with insults.

Not a problem... and yes I would counsel "MY OWN KIDS" if it where them. But he is not my kid and therfore I would not attack a kid that is not mine.

I hope that makes sense, I know that I sometimes do not get my intended point verbalized very well at times.

Thank you,
E

flsurf420
11-27-2002, 04:16 PM
i must not have made it clear in my 1st post. i wasn't slammin my lil bro, i put the title cuz at the time he was pissing me off. but i was just saying for his first car he spent all his money(now he can't buy parts with his own money). and he wanted just the best car he couldnt get. i wished he would have chosen the gt so it would last longer. i never said i wouldn't fix it, but first laugh at him, then fix it.

while we were at the lhs i told him this hobby is about fun. and i know i am not spoiled this is the only time of the year i get anything. (except food, roof, and stuff) i have been blessed with a great, and caring mom. i normally by my own things. i know i am hard working, cuz me and my best friend cut lawns in the blazing heat(florida) and bought our first cars.

oh and in 1 1/2 years i have known my step-bro even if it is broke and he doesn't care about it he wouldn't let me even use it. i tryed to teach him how to change a glowplug but "hey arnold" was more important.

cynical_zen
11-27-2002, 05:07 PM
Originally posted by Electrofied
Either you did miss my point or I was not clear... It is not our place to call him names. That is the basic point. Especailly when hteir/our own lives are not perfect.


Take your post to me for example... you politely disagree with me yet you did not slam me. Difference of opinion is GREAt as long as it is not accompanied/peppered with insults.

Not a problem... and yes I would counsel "MY OWN KIDS" if it where them. But he is not my kid and therfore I would not attack a kid that is not mine.

I hope that makes sense, I know that I sometimes do not get my intended point verbalized very well at times.

Thank you,
E
Agreed!!! Not our place to "teach" the 15 y/o...
However, without being condescending, I want to ask FLSURF a question...no need to reply, you only have to answer to yourself, so be honest! I just want to raise a thought...
How would you have felt had your brother received the GS Storm as described while you received a Serpent 950, .21 Collari, and a Futaba 3PK radio?
BTW- I have NO kids...not going to for awhile (NOT DONE BEING ONE MYSELF!!!:D)

Hairball
11-27-2002, 05:12 PM
Originally posted by Electrofied
Either you did miss my point or I was not clear... It is not our place to call him names. That is the basic point. Especailly when hteir/our own lives are not perfect.


Whos calling him names? Jealousy is tearing this kid apart, and instead of dealing with it, he came to this board, posted a message of "HIS SIDE" of the situation trying to get moral support for his feelings, people telling him "Ya, your right, and your brother is wrong".

Instead he got people like Myself and HauntedMyst, who saw right through his BS and pointed out exactly what he was doing.

Now you're here to save the day? To make it "OK" for him?

Uh huh, tell me another one....

race2c
11-27-2002, 10:17 PM
don't let in to your stepdad or your stepbro let them get what they want cuz they'll do it anyway whatever you say. i wanted to get into micro r/c's but i can't because my comp. broke and have to use my x-mas money to fix it.

hopefully i'll get one by august or so. maybe by that time i will have enough for 1/10 scale touring car.
some words of advice: BE GRATEFUL FOR WHAT YOU GET

remember the meaning of x-mas is to celebrate the birth of Christ.

remember there are people who don't have it as good as you.
the time is for being around family and close friends.
it doesn't mean to go around whining what you can/do get for x-mas but the meaning behind those gifts.

race2c
11-27-2002, 10:18 PM
don't let in to your stepdad or your stepbro let them get what they want cuz they'll do it anyway whatever you say. i wanted to get into micro r/c's but i can't because my comp. broke and have to use my x-mas money to fix it.

hopefully i'll get one by august or so. maybe by that time i will have enough for 1/10 scale touring car.
some words of advice: BE GRATEFUL FOR WHAT YOU GET

remember the meaning of x-mas is to celebrate the birth of Christ.

remember there are people who don't have it as good as you.
the time is for being around family and close friends.
it doesn't mean to go around whining what you can/do get for x-mas but the meaning behind those gifts.

I'M NOT PICKING ON YOU BUT JUST REMEMBER THOSE THINGS AND TELL THIM TO YOUR STEPBRO TOO!!!;)

race2c
11-27-2002, 10:22 PM
SORRY I posted twice but my comp wasn't responding!

Electrofied
11-28-2002, 03:35 AM
Originally posted by Hairball
Whos calling him names? Jealousy is tearing this kid apart, and instead of dealing with it, he came to this board, posted a message of "HIS SIDE" of the situation trying to get moral support for his feelings, people telling him "Ya, your right, and your brother is wrong".

Instead he got people like Myself and HauntedMyst, who saw right through his BS and pointed out exactly what he was doing.

Now you're here to save the day? To make it "OK" for him?

Uh huh, tell me another one....

HAIRBALL... you are just proving my point with your sarcasm and feeling like what he is/was saying or coming across as saying as BS. Interesting that you went there so quickly. HauntedMyst replied to me in a polite and non-antagonizing manner, which I tried to convey my appreciation of in my reply post to him.

It is not a matter of the 15 year old being right... it is a matter of validating people's feelings. To invalidate them does nothing... They are still felt and still there whether you, myself, or others agree or not.

The issue that you and one or so others took up with the original post in this thread was a non-issue due to the 15 year-old posted he did not mean it the way it was taken in the first place. So do not claim that you saw through his BS when there was no BS to see through.

As I said... Difference of opinion is one thing... disrespect and personal attacks are 100% another issue all together. Your sarcasm with me invalidates “to me” any coherent points or thoughts you may actually have.

I know I am not perfect and have many faults. I also know that for me to point a finger I better be dealing with hard facts, not my simple interpretation of what I perceive is the issue

I can fully appreciate your difference of opinion but I find the manner in which you convey it offensive. To that end, my part of this conversation is over, due to the fact I believe you and I will not be able to simply even agree to disagree. Any further posting on this regarding my comments and views, whether in agreement or opposition, will go unreplied to and unread by me… I figure I may as well be the one to toss his hands in the air and go away from this situation before it goes from the ridiculous to the pure bizarre.

Good evening,
E

Hairball
11-28-2002, 06:01 AM
Whatever dude. :p :p

AudiTT-Quattro
11-28-2002, 02:58 PM
I've just read through the whole thread an realized one thing.

We don't know enough about the kid and his family to know what advice we should give and etc.

nitrofun
02-08-2003, 12:05 AM
I just realized that I am totally spoiled then, because I inherited a huge amount of money from the death of my parents....yes thats plural...so me using a small chunk of it on RC and not really making a fuss over $200 is bad eh? I started with an HPI RS4 3. Now I have 4 cars and way more money in this hobby than I should...I also drive a lexus rx300, haev a fiancee, am 20 years old, have a 3 bedroom loft in manhatten and I am in college...so according to the way all you people think about money am I spoiled? Then again I never got $%^! growing up, I got $100 bucks on my B-day and $150 on X-mas...and I had to work a part time job 5 days a week to pay for anything I could possibly want...so I reiterate does this make me spoiled? And if someone has $2 million dollars and they buy there kid a $1000 serpent or mugen..WDF does it matter, they are more well off so let them enjoy the money..I'm sure if anya nd everyoen of you who has no money had a ton you'd be jumpin into "I can buy anything I want bandwagon"..and for the record..I was in my apt. already I just sold a lot of the old stuff and refurnished it, I bought the car and whatever else was necessary. You try gettin by when both your parents are deceased when your 17..and I'm 20 now...

jm93
02-08-2003, 12:42 AM
Ok, i read most every post.

This is not really RC related. I think what you should do is consult your parents about it. all you are going to get on this board is a big flame war. different people have thier own values. your jsut going to get a bunch of crap here. (not to offend anyone)

Talk to your parents, confront both of them at teh same time and express your mind to them. if they dont do anything about it, there isnt a thing anyone on this board can do. This really doesnt belong in a place like this.



PS: Any car can be a first car, as long as you know what your doing. read teh manual and ask questions.

Hairball
02-08-2003, 12:47 AM
nitrofun - Thank you for using moron-logic.

I two am in the same boat you are. I'm 24, my father has passed away, and my mother is worthless. I haven't spoken with her in years. My father left me a sum of money, and I've used a little of that on my toys, but mostly I've worked for my toys. Not the point though.

What I'd like to know, is what gives this kid the right to cry out to the world that his brother got a better toy than him for x-mas (by like $100 more if I remember right). Then he claims "I'm not jealous, I just think its messed up" or something to that effect. Its not like its HIS money thats going to waste.

Its like, uh, GET OVER IT DORK. You're crying over spilled milk. There isn't anything you can do about it, but you still see the need to bitch. Uh ya. There are better things in life to waste your energy on.

RonnieRayGun
02-08-2003, 07:46 AM
hairball is such a marine sometimes.
http://www.pomexport.com/O%20-%20Ron%20Reagan%20waiver/POC%20-%20Ron%20Reagan%20waiver_1x.jpg

aspiringrcracer710
02-08-2003, 12:09 PM
Im coming in a little late in the game here but here are my thoughts (having read this entire thread through):

I was reading about the Dr. Phil show I believe yesterday and the whole spoiling your kids and stuff topci was once again being discussed. Here is a link to that:

http://www.drphil.com/advice/advice.jhtml?contentId=091502_parenting_raisingkid s_spoil.xml&section=Parenting&subsection=Raising+Kids

Also, Im not saying that what flsurf420 is doing is right, because there are probably better avenues by which to actually vent your frustrations. I have a sister, she is about a year and a half younger than I am. She isnt the greatest student in the world (heck I wasnt either and I still am working on that), and she got a Game Boy Color for Christmas one year. That got me a little ticked off, and made me want to ask for a Game Boy Advance just to continue this game of "can you top this". But then I came to realize, that thinking that way just wasn't healthy and it certainly wasnt going to do me any more good. So I decided that I would just continue to work hard and reap the fruits of that as the opportunity permitted. That first came last summer when I got a T3 RTR for a belated birthday present (my very first "real RC Car btw :D). I was so happy about it, because I had worked for it. I have a Corally Pro10 racer now, I bought that with some leftover money I had from Chrsitmas shopping. When you get things that you know you worked for, it gives you a feeling inside that not much else can match. For those of you who dont know, I am also a Christian. The feeling you get when you accept Christ is the ONLY, and I mean ONLY thing that could be better than getting something because you worked for it. God has said that those who are doing well and getting everything that they want, their time will soon come. So flsurf, take heart, your step-brother is going to ger whats coming to him when the time is right, and you dont really NEED to do much of anything.

Now I said earlier that what flsurf is doing isnt exactly the best way to go about it, of course that doesnt give each and every one of you guys carte blanche to go passing what he says off as BS, or whatever obviously foul word or phrase that you guys use, but anyway, all flsurf is doing is telling how he feels about it. He is not rying to belittle his brother (which is exactly what your doing to him in your responses). What I am getting at is that instead of turning this into a belittling, tearing down, utter flame war, you guys need to take off the ol blinders and put yourself in his situation. If you were in the situation that flsurf420 is in, you would probably do the EXACT SAME THING! so think about what you would do in his situation before you go ripping a guy (be it flsurf420 or anyone else that has this exact same sort of situation) up, down and side to side, you might surprise yourself

Ok, Im done preachin now

SuperRally1
02-09-2003, 01:23 PM
wow.. u guys are talking about that spoiled guy like he is a little baby... he is 13.. i think only 8 year olds would say "how fast does it go?" im 12 and by the sound of it im more grown up then he is...

flsurf420
02-09-2003, 05:27 PM
ok why this was brought back is ridiculous(sp?). LOOK i could have gotten the storm also, but the point only was, he got the best car possible at the lhs, just so he could have the best of everything. i didn't mind him getting it. yes, he has let me drive it, and yes i helped him fix it. the only thing i was pointing out was, that he went over the budget to get the best when he had know idea what a glow-plug was. the way he is, is that he always likes to brag about everything. dude when he got it on christmas i had to start it and break it in. while he sat inside and played video games. and the only reason i did is because of his dad. i like his dad alot, he is cool and likes to do stuff. well he takes advantage of his own father cuz he is a very giving person.

aspiringrcracer710
02-09-2003, 05:47 PM
Im gonna try and lay this to rest right here right now:

flsurf- you have a valid beef. When your stepbro gets to an age where he has to do things for himself, he's not going to know what to do because everything was handed to him. He will probably never be able to have a budget and will spend the rest of his life dependent on others. Now you probably could of thought of a better way to go about this than airing out the dirty laundry, but at least you made your feelings known, which is good

To everybody that is ripping flsurf420- All the kid is trying to do is let his feelings be known about the situation. He is not trying to make his stepbrother look like less of a person, but he just wants everyone to know that this is the way he feels about it. You guys are making yourselves look pretty small by trying to tell the kid essentially that he cant express his feelings about something in whatever avenue he deems it necessary.


If you wanted to express your feelings about a particular situation, you wouldnt want everyone and their next of kin jumping down your throat would you? I didn't think so. Let the kid make his feelings known and sit down and listen

flsurf420
02-09-2003, 06:13 PM
Originally posted by aspiringrcracer710
Im gonna try and lay this to rest right here right now:

flsurf- you have a valid beef. When your stepbro gets to an age where he has to do things for himself, he's not going to know what to do because everything was handed to him. He will probably never be able to have a budget and will spend the rest of his life dependent on others.

thank you that is one of two points exactly

TVRTuscan
02-10-2003, 05:05 PM
I myself am 13, like your brother. I've been R/Cing since i was 9, when my mom bought me a pan car (which I still have today). After that pan car, I bought all of my R/C stuff myself . I started with AM radios and that pan car, then bought a Losi XXT. Then I bought an RS4 Pro, and a JR XR3 radio. Then I bought my Tamiya Mini cooper (best purchase I've ever made, even if it is a "noob" car). Personally, I'm scared to buy a nitro car. I'd like to someday but it really scares me. I don't want to dump money into something and then probably break it. Electric is really my thing.

nitroguy1983
02-10-2003, 06:55 PM
my parnts never bought me a single rc car i bought all that i own i have a rc10gt a hpi nitro mt and a savage i worked odd jobs since i was 14 years old now i am 20 and my parents have no intrest in them so i have to rely on myself for money to buy them with .

Soya v1.1
02-10-2003, 08:18 PM
I think..........it doesn't matter what I think. It doesn't matter what anyone on here thinks. No one has the right to judge this young man, not even other parents. He just wanted to show his feelings about the subject; nothing else. No one knows enough to bias an opinion. Let him be.
Now throw this into the lifeless heap....

flsurf420
02-10-2003, 08:57 PM
Originally posted by nitroguy1983
my parnts never bought me a single rc car i bought all that i own i have a rc10gt a hpi nitro mt and a savage i worked odd jobs since i was 14 years old now i am 20 and my parents have no intrest in them so i have to rely on myself for money to buy them with .

hey buddy i never asked who's parents didnt buy them anything. this post was useless, and pointless. o wow u had to buy everything your self. i bet your parents bought other thing that you NEED. i dont care if your parents bought you the world(as long as you share)