View Full Version : savage vs t-maxx 2.5
nitrorush89
01-29-2003, 08:23 PM
what do you think about the savage or the maxx and does size matter
SteveK
01-29-2003, 09:55 PM
The two trucks are very close in size, so that's not a huge factor. The Savage has a .21 and the Maxx a .15, so the Savage has the power advantage but the Maxx is lighter so they would probably be very close (Traxxas said they tested .21's and .15's and found the .15 truck handled better). I believe the Maxx's top speed is 25% faster than the Savage.
The Maxx has reverse out of the box, while the Savage needs a reverse module that is not yet released.
The Maxx has LOADS more hop-ups, and much better parts support. I like HPI's products, but their parts support is very spotty. I wouldn't select the Savage because of that alone.
The Maxx is also $100 cheaper.
Nitro MT Mike
01-29-2003, 10:24 PM
The Savage reverse module has been out for at least a month and is available online or at hobby shops.
Savage hopups are starting to get into the market now. Manufacturer's products can now replace every part of the suspension and drivetrain, and chassis, motor mounts, pipes, engines, roll bars, etc. are available. Some parts are still waiting to be shipped from Megatech and Hot Bodies, but companies have the same type parts they make already out. In a couple weeks I'd think almost anything would be available. T-Maxx has SOOO many hopups out right now though.
What is with the bad HPI parts support? I have heard SO many people say this, but I have only had good experiences and haven't heard of any specific problems that poeple have claimed. I understand Traxxas is supposed to have really good support, but I don't have experience with them so I can't say.
You can buy the Savage for $375 at meganitro.com. It is $409 on Tower and the Maxx is $399 on Tower. I've yet to see a Maxx for $275...
If you want to know about performance, the Maxx is faster. The Savage handles more extreme offroad better. That's all I'll say, I don't want to start a flame war and almost everyone on this board is extremely biased, so don't ask too many opinionated questions because you will not get completely true responses.
cheapjeep_95
01-30-2003, 01:13 AM
just pick the truck that is your favorite color
SteveK
01-30-2003, 09:50 AM
I have several HPI vehicles and shops around me have trouble getting their parts in stock. Several mail-order companies are also out of parts all the time.
tripplefatty
01-30-2003, 11:29 AM
get a dominator....& be done with it
rookiercr
01-30-2003, 01:49 PM
if anybody HAD to choose which one SAVAGE or T-MAXX,which and why. this is my first nitro mt and the first 11 replys will help me decide!!! :confused:
sean68
01-30-2003, 03:18 PM
i may not be of much help, but i would pick the T-Maxx(2.5)! based simply on the fact that parts are always available to me at my lhs... HPI isnt really big around here! if parts for both trucks are plentyful in your area than i guess its gonna tough! i like um both too!
Peterbilt
01-30-2003, 04:09 PM
Sorry to cut in on your thread, but...
Is anyone else getting tired of this question?
:rolleyes:
First off I am biased because I own a 2.5 Maxx and think it's great. The biggest consideration for you might be that as a first time nitro owner a .21 powered pullstart might be more than you want to tackle. The improved EZ start has started my Maxx EVERY time in the first gallon. The manual and DVD that comes with the new Maxx has every detail covered concerning break-in and maintenance. i have a Hyper .21 powered MP and it's also a blast but not something I would recommend to a first timer. I think the Savage is a cool truck, but I like Traxxas's customer support and parts availabilty. I have broken one $3 spur gear in my first gallon although I don't jump over cars etc... just simple bashing around. Upgrades for the Maxx don't have to cost a bundle. RPM makes heavy duty nylon arms that are practically bullet proof and don't cost much. Believe me, 40 mph is silly fast for a Monster Truck, the Savage is no slouch at 33mph. Reverse is kind of fun but not really all that useful. I say get the Maxx.:D
rusty89
01-30-2003, 04:17 PM
I would go with the t-maxx because it has been more refined and the motor is small but it will idle for ever and ever, starts FAST, Has great power around the whole power band and is NOT peaky. I would rather have a super refined motor that would run a lot better and stronger. Also t-maxxes are every were and parts are easy to find execpt for glow plugs. You CAN"T go wrong with a t-maxx.
tripplefatty
01-30-2003, 04:27 PM
ya the maxx is a good truck,but what do you do when you want more power out of your maxx?????IT cant handle the power of a mid level .21...unless you put big money into the drive line...the savage needs no drive line mods & can handle just about any motor out there...just bolt in & go...& i dont have either truck..have ran both & i think the savage will out handle the maxx...so go with the savage & it will be cheaper in the long hall
Nitro MT Mike
01-30-2003, 04:36 PM
I really wouldn't worry about parts support for either truck, they're both supposed to be durable. In the more than three months I've had my Savage, the only part I needed was a dogbone. I also ran into a basketball pole at WOT and didn't break a thing, and I ran right into the a-arm. I also jump at a BMX track every so often. The EZstart might make the Maxx more newb-appropriate. However, my Savage started on the first pull and starts almost always with 1-2 pulls. With nitro though, most people w/o much experience have trouble with engines, so an EZstart would make it easier (hence the name lol). I really like my Savage, and I'd suggest one to anybody. The T-Maxx is also a good truck and the decision is tough.
2 F45T 4 U
01-30-2003, 06:03 PM
Go with the maxx all the way. Its the better truck, as RCCA have pointed out. Its cheaper, faster, more hopups, better part service what more you want
rusty89
01-30-2003, 06:46 PM
why do people say you MUST upgrade to stronger engine on EVERY model. Traxxas did a fine job on the trx 2.5 and 99% of people will never feel the need for a stronger engine. and if you are the 1% just get the trinty 3.0 cc motor that hangs right with the .21's
FredSavage
01-30-2003, 07:06 PM
Rb ws7 into my savage. Only have to upgrade the clutch and maybe the dogbones.
dainjarouz
01-31-2003, 05:41 AM
PETERBUILT im with you bro. they should make a program thatll give an error anytime you type savage and tmaxx in the same post. DAMN! eeny meeny minie moe<~ what ever happened to that?! worked great when i was younger!
nitrophil
01-31-2003, 09:26 AM
Take a good long look at each truck. I had a hard time deciding also. But I took the Savage. I still just stand and look at it sometimes just thinking what an absolutely cool truck it is. Better than a maxx or not I dont care. I am sure it was the right truck for me. I could care less about comparisons and dont feel they are worthy of time in most instances. Its a good kick arse hobby that is ALOT of fun. Either truck will make you feel like your the king of the hill I'm sure.
rookiercr
01-31-2003, 10:25 AM
hey dainjarouz, obviously you are older and more crankier, and peterbilt just go to another thread, but you know i might just have to do that eeny meenee mynee mo thing. everybody else thanks for the valuable info it helped alot, i will let you know the pick.....thanks!:mad:
:D :D
Tim71
01-31-2003, 01:24 PM
Go with the t-maxx. The savage is really cool but the majority of my customers love the t-maxx plus the availibility of parts to turn this truck into a supertruck is just too sweet. You don't have to upgrade anything but it's nice to know you can. Beside's that from the head to head shootout the 2.5 outperformed the savage.
Tim
Peterbilt
01-31-2003, 04:10 PM
Originally posted by rookiercr
hey dainjarouz, obviously you are older and more crankier, and peterbilt just go to another thread, but you know i might just have to do that eeny meenee mynee mo thing. everybody else thanks for the valuable info it helped alot, i will let you know the pick.....thanks!:mad:
:D :D
Sorry to bust your newbie bubble, but this is a question that has been asked nearly every other day for a couple of months. The words "T-Maxx" and "Savage" in the same sentence has become something me, and obviously a few others have become sick of because the same info found on this page is also found 3-4 times on the 1st page of the Monster Trucks forum. Sorry, the info ain't gonna change on ya, just do some work for yourself for once and search.
This will also be my official post for all other T-Maxx/Savage threads from today on :rolleyes:
Ugh.
Peterbilt
01-31-2003, 04:13 PM
Originally posted by tripplefatty
ya the maxx is a good truck,but what do you do when you want more power out of your maxx?????IT cant handle the power of a mid level .21...unless you put big money into the drive line...the savage needs no drive line mods & can handle just about any motor out there...just bolt in & go...& i dont have either truck..have ran both & i think the savage will out handle the maxx...so go with the savage & it will be cheaper in the long hall
You have obviously never seen a T-Maxx 2.5 run. It has tons of power box stock, and I think few people (like myself) will never upgrade the engine. Besides, 10 pounds of truck coming at you at 40 MPH is enough. Does it really need to rocket around at 50 or 55?
Skribble
01-31-2003, 05:09 PM
They both suck. J/k. Niether is better. Flip a coin. T-Maxx - Heads, Savage - Tails. :rolleyes:
nitrorush89
01-31-2003, 06:52 PM
they are both good but i go for the maxx
buddnice
02-01-2003, 12:07 AM
Before i purchased my MT i did my homework on my choices.And the T-MAXX seemed like the best choice.So i believe i picked right!And after all, now all the magazines are agreeing with what i originally thought.T-MAXX is better than SAVAGE! "period"
the savage i guess jumps better than the MAXX from what i hear.But my MAXX does pretty damn good also...so i wasnt too upset when i noticed they gave savage the nod in jumping!
but MAXX took almost all the other categories over SAVAGE...even in the tug o war. they said that the T-MAXX was going crazy like a PITBULL and the savage sat there and did nothing but lock up.but they called it a tie...lol
and most of you savage owners who keep saying "T-MAXX cant handle a 21 powerplant---but i can upgrade my savage with a bigger 21 if i want" (the simple answer for that is WHO CARES...isnt 40+ MPH enough for a damn monster truck...the T-MAXX has so much F%^$%$ torque that i will never need to change the motor...just maybe piston and sleeve in the far future!
i also heard on other boards that Savage cant handle more extreme 21's, but who cares!
Traxxas made a damn fine .15 built to tha hilt motor...and HPI slapped in a polished terd...and thats that!
you want a truck that will run, and run right! get a T-MAXX
1.) reliable motor
2.) enough power to satisfy any RC enthusiast (maybe too much)
3.) great design
4.) great support
5.) many many stock and aftermarket parts readily available
6.) durable
7.) easy to tune
enough said...im tired and off to sleep...
l8er
BUDD
Skribble
02-01-2003, 12:16 AM
1.) reliable motor
2.) enough power to satisfy any RC enthusiast (maybe too much)
3.) great design
4.) great support
5.) many many stock and aftermarket parts readily available
6.) durable
7.) easy to tune
1. In seeing them run, yes.
2. No .. That's why some people go with EK4. .70. :)
3. Great? That's why the bulks have a flaw in them, eh? And the chassis flexes which causes the spur to strip (When you jump).
4. Traxxas has the CS department down, and IMO the best currently.
5. Many options yet most of them don't do diddly squat. And only a few selection that are actually decent.
6. Durable stock. Once you upgrade to aluminum everything plastic becomes a weak link. Also if you jump a lot expect to buy a lot of parts.
7. Don't know. But tuning to 40MPH for a newbie would probably be impossible. Like the Nitro 4-TEC (TRX.15),it had to be tuned perfect to actually reach 50+MPH. I probably only got it to like 40-45MPH.
buddnice
02-01-2003, 01:13 AM
Well Buddy,
they must be doing sumthin right for it to be the number 1 selling MT out there! right?
nitrorush89
02-01-2003, 02:09 PM
yo i got maxx and is i sick it looks so hot and better then the savage and has the cool body and a cool dvd and i relly dont think the savage has that;)
Skribble
02-02-2003, 01:52 PM
I wouldn't want the stock body 'cause everyone has it on theirs and all I need are instructions for my vehicle. :o They were the first of their kind, that's why it's #1 along with their Customer Support you can't beat. If I bought a T-Maxx, I'm probably dump around $200 into it for racing. All the Savage needs is probably thicker shock oil, harder foams, new pipe and maybe some spare uprights.
foofinator
02-02-2003, 09:56 PM
YOO HOMES! Tmaxx OWNS j000!!11 Lots of Peoples are buying it and stuff.. I hate the Savag Its not cool man, anything that is not like my maxx0r just like stinks d00d!!1! It won in top speed and Drag race thats just two cool. Every TRU monstah needs TOP SPEED! :rolleyes:
When I read some T-Maxx owners post the term.. "fanboy" comes to mind.
Get whatever you think you will like. Don't let those biased guys try to persuade you to get what they got. (Don't make the same mistake they did lol ;) ). Seriously either one you will be happy with, pick the one that looks coolest to you (Twin verticle plates rock btw).
My 3 cents :cool:
HDClown
02-02-2003, 10:08 PM
#1 selling truck. Well when it was the first monster truck on the market EVER and it's also the longest selling, of course it will be #1. Give me a break.
rookiercr
02-03-2003, 11:34 AM
Originally posted by Peterbilt
Sorry to bust your newbie bubble, but this is a question that has been asked nearly every other day for a couple of months. The words "T-Maxx" and "Savage" in the same sentence has become something me, and obviously a few others have become sick of because the same info found on this page is also found 3-4 times on the 1st page of the Monster Trucks forum. Sorry, the info ain't gonna change on ya, just do some work for yourself for once and search.
This will also be my official post for all other T-Maxx/Savage threads from today on :rolleyes:
Ugh.
I think thats what forums are for, OPINIONS, and SEARCHING is what i am doing....very good info from all the forums, thanks....besides peterbilt, what do you prefer SAVAGE or T-MAXX!!!
tripplefatty
02-03-2003, 11:36 AM
dominator!!!:D
wizen2002
02-03-2003, 11:09 PM
.25 TC da best :eek: :p :D ;) :) :rolleyes:
rc10gtroller
02-04-2003, 06:32 PM
They just did a competition in the newest r/c nitro mag on witch is better, 2.5 maxx or savage and the t-maxx won!! YIPPIE
Nitro MT Mike
02-04-2003, 09:15 PM
rc10gtroller-someone mentioned that awhile ago, there's a thread about it.
nitrorulz
02-04-2003, 11:02 PM
#1 selling truck. Well when it was the first monster truck on the market EVER and it's also the longest selling, of course it will be #1. Give me a break.
No, it won't be number one because of that, because you're wrong! The T-Maxx wasn't the first Nitro monster truck by a long shot. Kyosho Nitro USA-1 was first 1991, then there was Ofna's Monster Blazer, both long before the T-Maxx!
The T-Maxx is the number one selling Truck because its a good product (sells show that) No-one ever put a gun to someones head and told them they had to buy it!
I'm not saying its the only truck out there, Heck I've owned about everyone of them, but the T-maxx is kinda hard to argue! All these sells ain't by mistake. Alot of the Savage guys keep talking about spending all this money on the T-Maxx to make it into something, but not having to spend much on the Savage, but when both are stock, out of box, it looks like the T-Maxx is faster, Quicker and more complete, so wheres all this money I have to put into my Maxx?
Yeah I can spend money on my Maxx if thats what I want to do, Hopping up a R/C is what makes this hobby great, but I don't have to spend an extra dime to make this truck great, it already is.
I'm not saying anything is wrong with the Savage, it actually looks very cool and I'm sure it will eat up some terrain with that suspension. You should buy which ever truck looks like it will get the job done for you, for me, I like quickness, not so much top speed, but how fast it will get there and the Maxx gets that done very quick!