OFNA LD-3 Nitro Touring

[Nsxshogun]

I was thinking that as I was freezing my ass off. I'm runnin 37's up front and 35's in back. I wonder how can I get the tires heated up, nuke'em in the micro wave is somtin I might try.

[93ta]

hey guys... just got an ld3 pro... what are the most commonly broken parts? i need to get up a supply of spare parts... but not sure what the week links are yet.
thx

[CG Maxx]

Woohooo, I can finally post. Been having some account activation problems that seem to have finally been resolved.

New to the onroad scene and also picked up the 2-Speed RTR during Nitrohouses killer sale a couple weeks ago. Received the car a couple days ago along with some Jaco Foams, extra spiders, Rx pack, and a spring set. Threw the RTR radio on the shelf and installed a Futaba Rx so that I can run the car with my 3PDF.

Unfortunately, the weather sucks here in the Northwest at the moment, so all I can do is drool over the car sitting on the workbench....lol. While I am waiting, I need to get the extra gears in the diffs and I am curious what wt fluid you guys might recommend?

[spenzalii]

My hobby shop guy recommended 30,000 up front and 3,000 in the rear. One mag had the Pro with the 6 gear diff runnig 120,000 up front and 50,000 in the back.

As for breakable parts, upgrade to the Pro style arm kit (it has upper and lower set, front and rear), front and rear knockles and you should be fine

[Nsxshogun]

Damn damn damn damn damn. Somehow a rock cracked my fuel tank noe the dam thing wont start. Any one got a fix for this before I buy a new one.

[93ta]

cgmaxx:

when i ran my impulse with gear diffs i always ran 100k front and slick 50 grease in the rear.

grease in the rear is usually best because you want light weight oil but the light weight oil leaks out easily. so with the grease you get the function of lighter oil, but with out all the mess. the thicker oils are thick enough you dont have to worry about them leaking.


spenzalli,

i allready have the pro arms and knuckles(i bought the pro) but would like to know what are the first things that break. no one is carrying parts locally for them yet... so i want to make sure i have my only stock pile.

[Onetrip]

Will a threaded shaft engine (not SG or short) fit the pro
with two speed? I've read here you should use a SG/Pilot
engine but why does the kit manual have pictures and
instructions for both type? and also has the parts for
both type?

My hobby shop guy recommended 30,000 up front
and 3,000 in the rear. One mag had the Pro with the 6 gear
diff runnig 120,000 up front and 50,000 in the back.

Wow seems like a big difference in weights. what is everyone
else using?

[Nsxshogun]

Hey spen what site can you import parts from? I tried hongnor.com any one know one.

[93ta]

nsxshogun

what kinda parts are you looking for?

i have a link at home for a place that sells the hong nor version and some parts..... but not here at work.

[spenzalii]

Try HERE (http://shopping.rcmodel.com.hk/)

[Nsxshogun]

I wanted one of those anodized aluminum drive shafts. And in a older post you said its cheaper to import them.

[spenzalii]

The link I sent you has the blue ano'd center shaft, if that's what you want.

[Luckyman4]

Onetrip,

I run 100,000 in the front and 30,000 in my pro. I don't know about putting a threaded shaft engine, haven't tried yet. -John

:cool:

[spenzalii]

My OS is a threaded shaft, and I didn't have a problem with the clutch at all

[Nsxshogun]

For the people on the east coast or where its cold as hell outside have you had any trouble starting the ld3 cause mine wont start for some odd reason. can anyone help me

[Nightmare_au]

The BEST place I have found for LD3 parts is http://rc-mushroom.com

PM/Email me for a list of LD3 part prices I have from them, Very sweeet :)

Upgrading to LD3 pro arms will cost you bigtime, a whole $6.50 hahahaha..

(Yes, they are cheaper then rcmodel.com.hk)

ie
LS-04 LD3 6 GEAR DIFF $5.42
LS-33 LD3 FLOATING REAR BODY MOUNT $4.88
LS-22 SP BRAKE PAD $15.17
LS-28 LD3 UPPER & LOWER ARM $6.50
LS-30 LD3 ALUM BLADE ANTI-ROLL BAR SET $15.17
338 1/10 SP SHOCK SPRING 6 COLORS $10.83

Like I said PM/Email me for the list I have..(its not 100% complete parts list but there is a lot of good stuff on there :)

BTW
LD3-STD LD3/4WD/STANDARD VERSION $155.00
My "Standard" version came with threaded shocks like my Pro version :D :D :D Had to be happy with that when all the photos on the net have the plastic shocks..

Pretty sweet huh

[Nsxshogun]

Hey nigtmare-au can u give me a direct link to the ld3 page cause i searched but didnt find anything.

[Nightmare_au]

There is no page/link, thats why I said email/pm me.. Otherwise I would of put the link up :p :D

LS-16 LD3 ALUM F/R UPPER ARM HOLDER $21.67
#38442 Graphite Upper Arm Stay & Shock Tower Sale $42.46

Makes the "sale price" look not so attractive ... But dont forget airmail will eat into that a little so best order up big when you do order. BTW you guys are not too had done by, they want US$53 (or au$77) for the same item in Australia!!!


Nsxshogun - you have PM :)

[Nsxshogun]

Does anyone know how much hp the modefied read head has the one on nitro for like 99.

[Nsxshogun]

Does anyone know how much hp the modefied read head has the one on nitro for like 99.

[spenzalii]

Don't do it. Get the OS or Fantom if you must have a engine, but don't want to spend a bunch of money on it. You would be better off saving to get a nice engine than one you will want to punt a month later.

[spenzalii]

Oh, did you get the starter box? That makes a difference as to what you can get.

If you have many more questions and you have AIM, just hip me (the handle is the same)

[Grifter]

Originally posted by spenzalii
Don't do it. Get the OS or Fantom if you must have a engine, but don't want to spend a bunch of money on it.

Haha, it seems like all I do on this Thread is talk about my Engine, but I guess Engine's are a popular Topic.

Anyway, like spenzalli said, I would go with a better engine right from the start, it'll be so much better in the long run. Not saying that it's a bad engine, but you can get one that's even better for not much more. An OS or Fantom are both great choices.

[Nsxshogun]

does seem like that What about a boost bottle my freind is gonna sell me his and all the stuff to hook it up for like 15 bucks. So before I buy it can it be fitted on the force with no problems.

and ohh yea I know they dont really do anything I wasnt it for show.

[rcabj]

hello....have ld3 enter any serious race anywhere...and compared to the big names v1r,mtx3,705 how is the performance and durabality....

thanks...

[spenzalii]

There are quite a few that run oversees, but stateside, not too many. Ofna really doesn't have a strong on-road driver team (if any)

[Luckyman4]

Has anybody else seen the latest issue of RC Driver, and the LD3 Pro review? The LD3 Pro got some high praise ... 'bout time!

-John :)

[spenzalii]

Yeah, I gotthe issue. It really is a nice car, hampered by no real factory presence in the race scene. Think about it. Their buggies are considered formidable (and there are about 11 of them!), and part of that, besides their value, is the faxt that a few factory drivers race with them, including oversees. Sonce Ofna hasn't been nearly as active in the touring car field, it's harder to be taken seriously.

That said, I plan on getting another on eon the offseason. I hear there may be a 'championship' edition coming oversees which should be pretty much the full option version people have been wondering about. If so (and if it is $330) I will get one!

[Nsxshogun]

Had every thing ready to run the car to day and what happens. The thing wont start, the e-start will barley turn the flywheel. So i said forget it and went in side.

[AEcrazyT3]

That sucks! My easy start got stripped out in less then a week so I had to junk the thing...

[Nsxshogun]

What did you do get a new engine or got a pullstart for it.

[Nsxshogun]

Found a engine that I might have to pick up. Its called Megatech Q 1.6 Chianelli Series w/Header T-Maxx 2.5 but onthe site (http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXEUP4&P=0) it says its a direct drop in for the ld3. I'm looking for somting outlaw and illegal. Any one know another engine that I can get. For like 150 with a pipe.

[spenzalii]

Don't know about that megatech engine as far as specs and power goes. The header won't work on the LD3. The T-Maxx has the exhaust on the right. That header routes to the left; the pipe would be going out the back of the car!

Not too many engines will come with a pipe, either. The pipe that engine has looks like the Dynamite one piece pipe I bought that ran about $60. That would leave $90 for an engine with your budget. Now, if you header is ok, you can reuse that and buy another pipe. I believe another ripple pipe can be had for $35 locally.

You may want to have the shop look at the auto start. If it really is giving you that much trouble, and money is an object, you may just want to put a pullstart on it. I still have mine off my Force 12 if you want it.

BTW, I went and got a X18 Saturday (last on ethey had, $83!). Nice and smooth. Gave me something to do in the snow...

[rcabj]

hi...just ordered a ld3 kit hopefuly by this week arrive.

need suggestion which engine is suitable for this kit
since its lightness....here there is no regulation againts
law or outlaw motor.

b4 this i have use my gs and ts4n with os12tr and novarossi s5 motor....

the circuit here normally medium with 100-130 ft stretch.

thanks.

[rcabj]

once i got the kit ...like to know where,s the tricky parts to fix
and any tips to makes thing easier assembling it since my kit wil come unassemble...

thanks.

[AEcrazyT3]

What are the benifits to using the 6 gear diff vice the four gear diff that comes with the ready to run? Thanks....

[Nsxshogun]

Thanks spen I seen one of those little cars but knew theyd be a fortne. Ill try to chat with you later.

[spenzalii]

The 6 gear diffs spread the load placed on the diff a bit more evenly, making it more suitable for high powered engines. As long as you build the diffs correctly and place them in the gearbix the right way (I put mine in backward and didn't realize it until I reassembled it and it wouldn't roll) you should have no problems. If you have the centax clutch, pay attention to how they are built as well. As for the engine, anything you can fit in it will be great! With only a 135 ft. straight, get something with some low down torque; a OS TR or a MT/MR12 will do the trick IMO

[Nsxshogun]

Does anyone know how to adjust the ride height. I can't find it anywhere In the manual.

[Nsxshogun]

Also a buddy of mine that races at the track says that about 2-3 seconds should be when The 2 speed shifts. I adjusted it but it was still shiftin like 8secs away. What should I do.

[spenzalii]

You can adjust the ride height by using the shock spavers included in the kit.

You can adjust your transmission my turning the 1.5mm adjustment screws equally counter clockwise until it shifts where you want it to. Check page 27 of your manual. DON'T ADJUST THE TRANNY UNTIL THE ENGINE IS WARMED UP!!! When the engine is cold, it does not rev up to normal operating RPMs. Therefore, if you adjust it before it is up to temp thinking it is shifting late, it will continually shift really early

[Onetrip]

Does anyone know what the plastic hardware that comes
with the bag of decals in the Pro kit is for? It's a clear plastic
do-hiky and a gray thing-a-ma-jig? It comes in a smaller zip
bag with what looks to be wing mounting screws.
So far very impressed with the build quality of the kit.
except for the inside threads of the holes where the P-balls
adjusters/screws(?) go. Should probably had cleaned up the
threads w/ a tap/die(?) before i attempted to screw them in.
I love the alum hex hubs and the o-ring set-up.

[Nsxshogun]

I think I know what gray thing your talking about. It almost looks like a handel of some sort. If on one can figure out ill take some pics and see if anyone knows, when I get home.

[Luckyman4]

Boy, that question was a thread killer ... I'm glad to know I'm not the only one who had no clue what that plastic thigamabob is for.

I bet it's part of the hyperstatic inertia inverter dampner system ... :cool:

-John

[spenzalii]

Nobody seems to have a clue. They even asked that at Ofna's board and nobody came up with an answer...

[factry-team]

hat part aswell, i was speaking to the importer of LD3 and RB products in Sydney, Australia, and he was telling me that the LD3 tank is about 80cc, and there is a tank spacer that goes in the tank, and im pretty sure that this lil thingy is it. hope i could be a help :)

[Nsxshogun]

I finnally got the ride started. I have to hold the e-start motor a certin way but I works. I'm goin to the shop 2marrow what should I get. I looking at
-blue exsaust manifoild
-tires rubbbers
-maybe A new engine :D
-body
and can anyone else can think of some blue stuff that I can get form a shop that barley carries Ld3 parts.

[Nsxshogun]

And ohh yea some tools those allen wrenches are gettin on meez nerves.

[spenzalii]

Metric allen wrenches, tires and a body should suffice...

[Nsxshogun]

Ok that wont break the bank that much.

[Onetrip]

nsx,
i got this filter in bare alum but you might like the blue:

http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXFRL7&P=7

also pick up a 2mm hex driver, I like this one:

http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXKN76&P=7

works with all the under chassis screws....

[Nsxshogun]

Thanks but a lil to late. I went to the shop to day went well, untill I got on da track. I did ok untill like my 5th lap then flipped like 30 times and lost 2 screws. I fixed it but looking over it again I lost the peice to hold the shock up on the shaft. But I found somteting thatll work untill I order some stuff off of Nitrohouse cause I aint payin 6 dollars for a little 8$ piece. What should I order.

[spenzalii]

You lost what? Your descriptions leaves a bit to be desired...

[Nsxshogun]

I lost 2 screws the two on the rear bulkhead or whatever you call it. I'm now bout to get a new engine and a few more things. it's a O.S thats 120 but i don't know the name. Maybe a new pipe and a few more things.

-Tires Rubber slicks
-Engine
-Pipe
-Manifoild

[spenzalii]

Sounds like a plan. If you have any installation problems with that OS, let me know. Depending on the engine, you may consider changing your gear ratio a bit.

[Nsxshogun]

You might know the engine. Its in the classic blue box .12 or .15 os cv-r or cv-rx I dont know but I'm gonna get it today what gears do you reccommend.

[spenzalii]

Make sure you know what you're getting. The -x denotes it is a pullstart engine. Without it, you need a statrer box. And there is a definate difference between a cv and a cv-r. The CV will have either a red or blue square head, and have just a tad bit more power than the Force. the CV-R has the rounded head (either blue or black) and have a significant speed difference.

Let me know which one it is and than I can recommend the gear...

[Nsxshogun]

The one with the pul starter. I'm goin up there in about an hour
, I might check out there other motors while im up there.

[Nsxshogun]

Ohh yea don't go to see lord of the rings after 5 O clock. That Movie is close to four hours long.

[2 speed nitro]

ok....i wanna buy the LD-3 rtr single speed....now i want to know the specs on this car as far as weight, width, wheelbase etc. thas all thanx

[Nightmare_au]

Hmm don't know about the OFNA RTR version one but the Hong Nor LD3 (that only comes in 2 speed) the stats you want and a lot more are at: http://hongnor.com

[Nsxshogun]

Got my new engine. All broken in now, also found out why my car kept spinning out. The thing was missin a screw and it was in 2 wheel drive mode. Nightmare that guy told me that the demand wasn't high enough for putting Ld3 parts on the site maybe you can talk to him.


2 speed nitro got to Nitrohouse (nitrohouse.com) or ofna.com

[Nsxshogun]

Spen I seen you had a power adapter on your car. Will this adaper #WE5507, Power Adapter for 1/10 Nova Rossi One-Piece On-Road with .12 size seal fit this pipe Nova Rossi .12 Pipe, Short.

[Nightmare_au]

All I know he sells the cheapest LD3 parts ive found on this planet and he will order in whatever you want. If people support him and order LD3 stuff via email (Like I have a number of times) I am sure the LD3 parts will make it online and into stock.

Really not having them online adds week or so to the transfer as you have to ask for quote, order stuff in etc, not really that big deal when ur saving $$$$$$$$$$$$

At how cheap the HN LD3 Pro is, all you racers should have a full kit as "spares" <grin> (Yes that works out cheaper also)

[spenzalii]

Actually, the pipe I have is the Dynamite one piece side exhaust pipe they have HERE (http://horizon.hobbyshopnow.com/products/description.asp?prod=DYN6625)

I believe it only works with a one piece type pipe like that one because of how it seals. How do you like the engien now? You were only getting 2 wheel drive? At some point, you probably should sit down with the car, clean it, and go over it with the manual and see what screws you have missing and get it back together right. Actually, the way the car was looking, you may need a teardown and rebuild... If I get time at work and my memory works after a night of drinking, I'll try to give you a short list tomorrow at work

[Onetrip]

I'm setting up the throttle servo and got the linkage setup up
ok going to the throttle but the rod going to the break lever
seems to be too short. My radio has end point adjustments
and break trim but i can't seem to get the break set up right.
when i give it full throttle the break rod pulls out too far from the
lever and just dangles. The break rod is 54mm long but i think it
needs to be at least 15mm longer.
It is the stock one that came with the kit. Anyone got any ideas.
How long is everyone's break rod?
If i need to get another one from the shop, is it 1.5mm thick?
THX

[Nsxshogun]

Yea I took out the engine fuel tank all of the rear and cleaned it down. My mesh wasn't set right so I had to buy all new gears, so I haven't ran the engine yet. I have it all fixed ready to go.

[spenzalii]

New gears, huh? Sounds like the engine shifted on the mounts, because teh mesh was great when I installed the engine. The next time you go to the shop, see if you can pick up some M3x12mm hex screws for the engine mounts. The phillips head screws that came with the engine won't hold as well. As a matter of fact, you should be able to use the screws from the old Force that you took out if you still have them. That way, the engine won't move and it won't change the mesh.

Onetrip, I'm not too sure about the linkage issue. I haven't had a problem with my linkage being too short at all. Then again, I got one of the first series of LD3s, so they may have made a running change. If you have a pic, post it and we may be able to figure it out.

[Nsxshogun]

Yea took the engine back out set it all up agian. I haven't ran it yet but it seems like it would be good. My uncle is in town and is gonna take me up to the shop 2marrow.

[Nsxshogun]

Yea took the engine back out set it all up agian. I haven't ran it yet but it seems like it would be good. My uncle is in town and is gonna take me up to the shop 2marrow.

[Nsxshogun]

Does anyone know what gears I should run with a cv-x .12. I only need the first gear cause I don't have a space large enough to let it shift gears.

[AEcrazyT3]

What diff goop do you guys use in your rear diffs? Right now Im runing 50,000 wt in the rear and I just cant seem to get much traction out of it....

[spenzalii]

The LHS had me run 30,000 front and 3,000 rear. Give that a try. As for the gear, I'll get back to you..

[AEcrazyT3]

Thanks spenzalii

[Nsxshogun]

What shock should I run. I mostly run up and down my street for kiding around and i have a small tyght track.

[Nsxshogun]

Damn this borad has been mighty queit latly. I had the ld3 up and running earlier but due to a late crash with a Mtx-3 stripped some more gears. Luckily it was only the first gear. I got a new one a few teeth smaller I'm gonna install it later. I do have a question though. How much toe should I run in the front? I have about 1 1/2 to 2 in the back. Also which piviot ball would I use to adjust it.

[AEcrazyT3]

I have taken to using a little toe out in the front and about the same toe in, in the rear... The toe out in the front seems to give me more steering..

[spenzalii]

A bit of toe in will help stability, which should do good for you. Adjust the length of the tie rod to take care of that. If it's warm out 2morrow, I may run mine. Let me know if you're going out and I may be able to meet you. You may want to look at the engine mounts. You seem tyo be stripping out gears a bit often.

[Nsxshogun]

Yea I don't acually no which time I would be up there 2marrow bout 12ish probally. You will have to help me adjust the toe and chamber cause some guy told me but I didn't understand a Thing he said.

[Nsxshogun]

What should I get. I was going up to the hs probally today and wanting to know what should I get. Diff oil 30,000 front 3,000 in back. Heavier shock oil like 60wt. And something to get my set-up together.I also have the pro arms and Im going to put on. Maybe some new gears what teeth should I run for dougs. and to have mad acceleration. I don't need top end in first gear but would probally like to keep the stock top gear ratio.

[AEcrazyT3]

I learned a little something yesterday at the track... I was having a hard time steering right and my car seemed to be looser the normal...So I took a close look at my suspension set up and the front left shock seemed to be much heavier then the right. Even though I was using the same wieght oil and purple springs.
Well the problem ended up being that when I set the camber on that left side I moved the wheel in a little to much causing the CVD to rest on the out drive! Bam instant bad handling! The fix was just to move the wheel out a smige....

[spenzalii]

You could run a 15/19 on the clutch bell, but you have to order the 15 tooth gear. On the spur, somewhere around 44/40 should do the trick.

[Nsxshogun]

well my mom just said she would pay for me to get it fixed at the shop and but me parts that have broken. I agreed because its raining an I woulnd't be able to ride it no way. I'm gonna get them to install the arms fix my suspension and check and see if my chassis is bent. I am thinking it is because I am stripping so many gears. So spen u know what dougs has what inexpesive parts will they probally have for the ld3. no rush im probally not going untill wed.

[spenzalii]

Hah. If I had the time, I'd do it for you. I can already see a rack of things that could be fixed, for sure. Now, parts for the car aren't that expensive, but I have found that S&J has a few more parts in stock for the LD3 than Dougs does. The price is about the same, though. Both shops would have to order the chasis if you really want to change that. Off the top of my head, I would replace all the screws that were missing (including some of the screws that are in the wrong place!), rebuild the shocks, change to the new Pro arms, replace the rear body mounts,replace the engine mounting screws and hardware so the engine will fit without sitting too high (so it will stop stripping gears), readjust the tranny and brakes, and CLEAN THAT SONOFAB$%@H!

Just off the top of my head, that is...

[Nsxshogun]

Yea I will get them to do the screws and install the arms. I have the body post on. I'm getting them to clean it. And im gonna get some nitro cleaner deffinatly. I also think somethings wrong with my manifoild cause. A whole lot of nitro and dirt is all over the left rear suspension and I have to constently clean it.

[spenzalii]

Sounds like the manifold is starting to strip. Get another side exhaust gasket, 2 m3x30 caphead screws (I gave you one for one side of the manifold), 3mm nuts and some threadlock. Replace those and your problems should be cured.

[Nsxshogun]

Finnaly got the ride up and runnin without having to get new gears. The mesh is sorta tight cuse of the half striped gears but its ok. I cleaned it off last nyght with some nitro cleaner but I still need somting it the diffs cause the rear one is dry as a bone. I'm usin 2degress toe in all the way around. Ill tey to get on Aim after school.

[spenzalii]

You know what? I may have some time this weekend, depending on if I have to pick up my little boy. If I do, I may take your car, go over it and try to fix it for you (or at least let you know what you have to buy to have it fixed)

[Nsxshogun]

New rtr (http://www.rc-car.com/detail.asp?id=201)

[1 Bad STi]

holy ****, i want those OFNA MT tires for my buggy. (FROM THE LINK)

[Nsxshogun]

Finnaly found out whats wrong with my car. Yesterday I took the engine and tank off. Come to find out my chassis is bent beyond belif. I have to get a new aol name spen so I can talk to you.

[spenzalii]

OK. A tweaked (bent) chasis will do it every time. You must have been hitting a bunch of walls to bend the chasis that bad. Pick up another and replace it. That should do the trick

[Nsxshogun]

It was already bent when I got it fixed the first time but no by that much. I think it really bent when I raced my freinds T maxx and ran into his rear tire, flipped a good 15 times. Its never been the same.

[spenzalii]

That would tend to do it...

[Nsxshogun]

Here is what that guy is selling me Took it from an old post. I will be trying to sell or trade some of the stuff.

This is a good deal. 1 Nrs4 with grafite shock towers and a CV-RX with the P/s replaced with the aftermarket one that dosen't breack ()even if you pull it out one spin of the flywheel will bring it in). A Nrs4 mt with a thundertiger airplane engine in it. About 7 recivers 4 controllers bunch of servos. Threaded shocks for both. And engough parts to build 2more rs4s if you had the chassis. All for 150 Now thats a good deal. someones selling it around mmy niegborhood.

[AEcrazyT3]

Thats a sweet deal! {one day... I will find a deal like that....**

[Onetrip]

Sold the semi-painted body and p/u a
Protoform Stratus 2.1 instead.
It's all stock right now except for the
nitro shoes and TRS.

[Onetrip]

*&^%

[Onetrip]

...

[spenzalii]

very clean paint job, buddy. HEre's what I really want, though


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[spenzalii]

The word from Tim at Nitrohouse is that there are rumors of a US version being floated around, with hard ano'd parts instead of the orange. Stay tuned....

[Onetrip]

Homer "Graphite...oohhhhggggg"
Love that alum swaybar holders!! Are those the floating
body mounts? I can see the difference between regular
mounts but how do they function, do they cause the body
to roll, or put more/less downforce the suspension?
Here's another pic

[Onetrip]

Picture posting must be idiot proof cause i'm
having problems......

[Onetrip]

Forgot to mention, OS Max TR(P) motor too.
Need to get new digi camera, this one sucks!!!

[Onetrip]

Enough w/ the Pictures!!!

[spenzalii]

methinks the rear floating mounts puts more downforce on the rear. The swaybar mounts come in the kit, but the lower arm holders are not. Shameful. They can be ordered overseas at $365 a pop, but the shipping pushes that to $400. If Ofna does make a version of it, I'll wait for a while and see. If not, I'm saving my pennies!

To add all the aluminum and carbon to the original kit will cost between $175 to $245, depending on what all you get and where you go, In that case, the price doesn't seem too ridiculous considering you get the whole kit : body, tires, diffs, bag, et. al

[spenzalii]

um, are some of these pictures old, or did you forget to change the tires on one side...:p

[Onetrip]

Keen eye, acutally the last pic was taken 1st then realized the
car would look "cooler" w/ it's racing Shoes on!! Yeah just
looked at the prices for SNR graphite and Alum, Ouch.
Better off getting the Champ edition.

[Grifter]

Sweet LD3 Onetrip.

I took my LD3 out today just to let it know that I still love it. Well to make it short I stripped 1st and 2nd gear. I knew I shouldnt of run it in this weather. The Fantom started up with no problem though.:)

I know I've asked this before, but where do you guys get all your LD3 stuff online? Links would be great.

Thanks.

[PCC]

Go directly to the source: Nitrohouse! (www.nitrohouse.com)

[spenzalii]

If you stripped both gears, your gear mesh is way off. Take the engine out when you get the new gears and reset it. They should be close enough to spin free withouy grinding (too tight) or skipping (too loose). Make sure the motor mount screws are good and tight. If the engine came with phillips screws (as do OS engined), scrap them and get the cap head screws so you can have them nice and tight. If you're using the stock gearing (38/42), orser up a 40/44. You won't be dissapointed...

[Grifter]

Yeah I did strip both Gears, one worse then the oter though. I dont know if the mesh was wrong, the guy who put in my Motor knows his stuff and wouldnt it have happened before if it was the Mesh?

Am I the only one that thinks Nitrohouse is a little pricey?

[spenzalii]

Depends on what part you're looking for. For stock parts, they're pretty good. On hop ups, not too good. The only other thing I can think of that would have stripped the gears like that would be is a rock got caught somewhere.

[Grifter]

I called up my cousin and he said it was the weather too. Once I told him he didnt sound too surprised, he agreed that you cant really run these cars in this weather. And then he had to rub it in my face that he was just whipping around a Savage 25 outside his shop!

[Nsxshogun]

ITs here ThE ChAmPiOnShIp EdTiOn (http://shopping.rcmodel.com.hk/product_info.php?products_id=3640&osCsid=33fd2fbf37ba740d0fb3afe9cd37b2a8)

[spenzalii]

They can be ordered overseas at $365 a pop, but the shipping pushes that to $400.

Yep, there are a few places that have the car in Taiwan (and have for a month or so). Now, word is Ofna is considering a version here in the states, but no official word as of yet.

[Nsxshogun]

IM probally goning to get some more rear foams bout 37 shore. And a body. This guy around my neighborhood is selling a cv-r so I may buy it. I'm also going to get the turbo head for it so I can use the T plugs. I also want some grafite the U deck and the bumper mount. Do you think the NTC3 one will fit. And are they chaper.

[spenzalii]

I don't know if the tc3 stuff is cheaper or if it wil fit. It may be best just to order the cf pieces that fit the LD3. You can try to get them overseas from RCModel.com (the same site you saw the champ edition)

[xxh0lywarsxx]

Okay soo spring should be comign around anytime and im bored as hell with this weather. I am seriously considering getting the ld3 since the price is good but my question pertains to the engine choices and there performance. The picco 3 port .12r that comes with the combo from nitro house. how fast will it propel the car with stock gearing. im looking for a basic number. someone on a forum said it will only do about 40 pmh that seems very low to me. Are there any motors that will just drop into the pro kit or do you have to do some modifications to the sg chaft etc? thanks alot ofr your help.


Paul

[spenzalii]

With the Picco and standard gear, you should hit the high 40's, low to mid 50s, depending on tuning, traction and space. I think the Picco is a SG shaft, so it should already have the necessary clutch nut. If not, the SG shaft kit costs less than $5. I have a standard shaft engine in mine which dropped in without a problem, and I have not heard of any other mods needed for the SG shaft.

The stock gearing isn't that bad, it just seems quite tall, so acceleration suffers a bit, even with a more powerful engine (and just about anything has more power than that Force12). Stock gearing is 16/20 on the ball, 42/38 on the tranny. Going with a 15/19 on the bell would do the trick, or even going up 44/40 on the tranny. You will notice a HUGE difference

[Nsxshogun]

Thats what I may do to mine when I get it out of dougs. It should be done today. Change to a 15/19 cluch and I still have to see if I can get that motor from that guy.

[spenzalii]

what did you have the shop do to the car? I hope you got them to try to tune the engine...

[xxh0lywarsxx]

didnt rcca clock the car at over 50* with the force? i thought the picco would be faster especially when its gear this high

[spenzalii]

I think you meant over 50. Well, that claim has been called into question by a few, I'm sure it can be done, but most haven't had that kind of success.

Rest assured, the Picco is much faster than teh Force, and will have little problem cracking 50 or better. (I believe RC Driver did a test of the Pro with the picco and it did crack 50+) Of course, I don't have a speed gun and can't verify it, but I'm more confident with the Picco than the Force

[xxh0lywarsxx]

thanks alot for your help. It looks like i will be ordering the combo on saturday......selling one of my tmaxxes to get it. what is the cheapest starter box that will have no trouble starting the car?

[xxh0lywarsxx]

also do any of you ld3 owners have aim? if soo please post your handle, i have tons of questions.......first touring car :p

[spenzalii]

Anything that you can turn the starter wheel sideways. If you want, you can hop on AIM and I can break it down for you

[xxh0lywarsxx]

screen name is xxh0lywarsxx

[Nsxshogun]

I have to get a NEW AIM name when I do ill get back to yall.

[Nsxshogun]

Had them to order a new chassis and put all the stuff on. I leaned the HSN out a little but didn't have enough time to really finish it.

[xxh0lywarsxx]

hello will the mcCoy line of plugs work for the 3 port .12 picco motor that comes with the combo? or are there better ones to use. any help would be appreciated thanks.

[Nsxshogun]

Yea I they should. I have a few pics of how that sway bar looks mounted but I don't have one yet. Spen one of those pics of the champ editon showed how it went on has anyone found out. I have hered that they greatly improve handelig. Something which I really need.

[spenzalii]

You ain't lying there...:D
I'm going to order another chasis before the spring, so I may try to get the sway bars on then.

[Gyro Gearloose]

What Picco engine comes with this car? The $319 one I see at nitrohouse.

I'm looking for a little fun and I don't like that force on the RTR.

[xxh0lywarsxx]

OFNA/PICCO .12R 3 PORT ROAR LEGAL

[Nsxshogun]

Gotsa new aim name kidld3 i may be on a bit afta school.

[xxh0lywarsxx]

Hey i ordered the ld3 pro kit wiht the picco engine last night, along with hump reciever pack, extra glow plugs, 50 and 60 weight shock oil, 50,000 silicone diff oil, after run oil. i think that covers it did i miss anything, im getting a starter box with 60 bucks store credit i have a stormer. ill keep you guys posted how the building goes.

[Nsxshogun]

Nice im probally goiong to drop a CVRX (dont know what size yet) and a new radio with dual rate and all that stuff.

[xxh0lywarsxx]

got my ld3 pro with picco engine lst night already built the diffs 2 speed tranny the suspension stuff and the servo saver its all on the chassis, have to do radio tray, shock towers,shocks and engine stuff and shes done!

[raderrustler]

Post a pic if you can, I am interested in the final result.
Randy

[Nsxshogun]

Im just about to order some more stuffs from nitro house, the antiroll bar and the spring set, but I want to know what the 6 gear diff does.

[sebtarta]

Hi guys, I have not posted here in such along time. Let me say, that my car is in bits and pieces ready to get wrenched on once again preparing for the season down here in Argentina.
Bought some titanium stuff, which is really for the NTC3 but fits the LD3. Also bought the rear floating body and other stuff as springs and that. changed my gear down a tooth to 15/19 on the clutch bell and 41/37 on the trans. I have a Rody engine, so I think its time to see how it will react to this. If the car does not like it, well we can always go back to stock on the trans. matter of testing.

NSX - in order to answer your question. Well the 6 gear diff is much smoother than the 4 diff. You also dont loose that much power on the wheels when turning.

Hope this helps, oh forgot to mention. Please PLEASE change the ball bearing of the car. The stock ball bearing are not that good. After a 4 months of racing the ball bearing had a lot of play. Just my opinion.
Good luck, :)

[sebtarta]

Has anybody seen the OFNA LD3 Champion Limited Edition

LD3 Pro Limited (http://rc-mushroom.com/product_info.php?cPath=35&products_id=1272&osCsid=407e831e8dead17c201713aaa87cac68)

If so please post pics or something.
Good Luck, :)

[Gyro Gearloose]

Here are some pics from an ended auction a couple weeks ago, looks pretty kewl.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3175383119&category=49215

[sebtarta]

I wonder if it lighter than the PRO. If the colored parts are the same as the pro, but in a different color, or they are made of lighter but harder material. I see that the chassis is different, rear floating body mount, and CNC front and rear holder. plus all the carbon on the car.
I want one :drool: :D :D
Good luck, :)

[Nsxshogun]

The chassis is on the truck well It got on the truck at 6:15 so it may be there. Can't wait im probally going to get the parts and put it on myself. Ill be up and running by the morning.

[spenzalii]

Sounds good. I begin the great upgrade brigade this week. Since I'm not sure what my tax returns are going to look like, I can't exactly swing the $400 for the orange Champ Edition just yet. So, I'll make my own pro style kit. Get the CF deck and brace, new chasis and driveshaft, shock towers, arm mounts etc. I can get pieces every payday, so it won't be that bad and I can see some progress. After the taxes come back, I'll know what I'm gonna do

[Nsxshogun]

Whicle youre at it pick me up a CVRX :p. MY next upgrade will proablly be the Cv-rx then the Ae box. Im tryin to find one off of some one cheap but Have no luck. http://www.rcvigilantes.com/ Nice bodies for real cheap.

[spenzalii]

Somebody has jokes, I see.... Don't know about letting go of that motor, but I may be letting that pipe go. Not too sure yet, I'll keep you posted

[Nsxshogun]

ok cool. The chasiss is here now Im trying to go to the shop and pck my parts up.

[Nsxshogun]

Do you think that the .15 Cvx head will fit on the .12 cause if so ill just order all my junk from nitro house instead of tower. Ill probally get the engine head, cf U deck bumper mount. Or I may save for my for a Engine. What should meez do??

[spenzalii]

Save 4 an engine....

[Nsxshogun]

ok I had the car running buy my cluch shoes are actin up. And the bad part is that my 2.0 wrench connked out on me now I can't get the engine mount screws out to get to the cluch.

[Nsxshogun]

I got the wrench to work but I don't know how you get the cluch off if you turn it one way the flywheel spins so how do I get it off.

[Nsxshogun]

Wad up spen, I found a TR on tower with no instructions for only 117. Go head and buy it so You can sell me the CVR. hahahaha I don't know if im gonna have the money to get a new engine by the race season, but im still gonna race. Well just floatin the breeze.

[Nsxshogun]

I was just messin around with the Rc calculater and with stock gears and a fantom ill be looking a speeds around 68 Mph and with a Cvr about 60.

[Gyro Gearloose]

You'll never reach those "calculated" speeds though, that doesn't take friction and wind resistance in to account. You'll have to gear higher than that to get to those speeds I'm thinking. And a good looong run to get to 68, like a city block or two(3 or 4 hundred feet, or more).

Just my opinion.

[Gyro Gearloose]

I'm still looking at getting one of these to play around with, cuz my 1/8 Serpent can't do sand and gravel like on a dirty parking lot..

The Picco that comes on it ain't all that tho, I'm looking at the pro and a Rossi Pixie or a RB Concepts maybe, ain't decided yet...

[Nsxshogun]

About the 68 I was thinking the same thing. It depends on things like u said wind resistence also traction how hot or cold it is out side and how you tuned it.

[spenzalii]

COuld you hit 60+? YEs. COuld you do it on the track? No way. Not enough room to wind out to that. BEsides, do you know how hard that would be to control? You want 60+ on a track? Get a 1/8. Now if you want to do it in a drag race, well, that's another story...

SOmeone else has that LD3 w/Picco and loves it to death. It's a very strong motor for the price, even if it is a few years old. DOn't know about that black pixie, and I don't have the cash for a RB. However, I do have an idea for what I will run this season. Just have to see if it would work...

[Nsxshogun]

Of course youll never hit 60 on a track, Unless its a regulation 8th scale one. hell on dougs track youll be lucky to hit 40.

[Nsxshogun]

ohh yea what u plan on running??

[Grifter]

What size Fantom were you talking about spenzalii?

Oh and also; I've tried to find it in the manual but I still dont know how to adjust the fail safe. Does anyone know how to? I have my radio on and when I turn off the transmitter the throttle opens, instead of breaking.

[Nsxshogun]

First you turn everything on. then you hold the brake and hold that little button on the failsafe till it blinks real fast and then goes back to normal.

[Grifter]

Ummm, ok. And that automatically sets it?

Thanks.

[spenzalii]

Yep, that would do it. And I don't remember mentioning a Fantom...Then again, I'm old so don't hold that against me.

As for my plan for this year, I can't say just yet. Still weighing my options

[Grifter]

Sorry I meant to ask NSX what size Fantom.

"I was just messin around with the Rc calculater and with stock gears and a fantom ill be looking a speeds around 68 Mph and with a Cvr about 60."

[Nsxshogun]

I don't really know I just seen 43000 rpm so I used that I think it was the .12 one.

[Grifter]

Yeah I think it is the .12. I was just curious, didnt know if you were looking to buy one.

I reset my failsafe and it worked, thanks for the help. I think I'm going to buy the Graphite Radio Tray, it's time my LD3 gets some cool parts.

[Grifter]

I'm looking at receiver packs. Nitro House has some for 15 bones, plus 8 for a wall charger, you think they're ok? I dont want anything fancy just something that'll work. I'm assuming I should get the Flat Pack?

http://www.nitrohouse.com/batteries_&_chargers.htm

[spenzalii]

The flat pack (or the hump pack) they have on the site will work just fine.

[Grifter]

Ok, thanks.

[Grifter]

I ordered some stuff for my LD3:
Graphite Radio Tray
Flat Pack Battery w/ Charger
Ofna 5 Spoke Rims
and last by not least a Fantom Tuned Pipe! I won it off eBay for $28 shipped. I cant wait to get it on.
I still need to get the 2 Speed Gears. How hard is it to change the Gears? I'm going to try and get some pictures up soon. I still dont have a nice body for it yet.

Thanks.

[Nsxshogun]

Those gears are a plian pain in the A$$ to change. But if you have the rite tools It wont take you that long.

[Grifter]

It seems like they will be. I'll try to get them out though, wish me luck.

[Nsxshogun]

I think I may have my engine sorted out but I can't say what I've got yet. Luck is all to yas just put it back on the rite way and I think youll be straight.

[spenzalii]

Grifter, I thought you had a 2 speed already? Didn't know it was single. It's not that hard to do. However, to get the snap ring off the spur gear, the best thing to use is an external snap ring tool. Pick one up at an auto parts store, Home Depot, Lowes, etc. Makes life a while lot easier.

I got the c/f radio plate and side brace; waiting for the chasis and shaft. Then gotta decide to get the other parts I need or the engine (once I decide exactly how much I want to spend on it)

NSX, so you have an engine sorted out? Good. I'll just keep the CVR for teh time being, just in case

[Nsxshogun]

I got a real good deal but il talk to ya later on aim with the details.

[spenzalii]

No Problem

[Grifter]

spenzalii: I have a 2 Speed, but I stripped my gears because I was driving it in really cold weather, yeah I know, I'm an idiot. How much is a snap ring tool? I'll most likely get one, I'm sure that will be the biggest pain about putting them in.

Also, what shaft are you getting? Do they have an upgraded one for the LD3?

Thanks.

[spenzalii]

The shaft? nah, it's just blue, that's all. The snap ring tool should only be between $10-$20, depending on which one you get.

http://www.sears.com/sr/javasr/product.do?BV_UseBVCookie=Yes&vertical=TOOL&pid=00947384000

something like this should do. With the tool, it's no problem at all. You sould be able to make teh change in around 15 minutes if you're good (and don't move the engine)

Oh, and the parts just came...

[Grifter]

Nice, be sure to post pics if you can. Yeah I was wondering about the Shaft, I thought maybe they made an upgraded one.

Thanks for the link, now I'll know what I'm looking for. It's funny because I was looking the job over and I thought that that would be the annoying part.

I cant wait to get my stuff...

[Nsxshogun]

Originally posted by spenzalii
NSX, so you have an engine sorted out? Good. I'll just keep the CVR for teh time being, just in case

I mean you can still sell me the motor maybe that reciver and some cash on the side.

[Grifter]

Well, not that anyone cares but I started taking apart my LD3 in preparation for the new Gears and Radio Tray. Man, I havent worked on one of my Cars for awhile, it is fun! I have yet to really dig into the car except for some Shaft changes, it's pretty easy to work on. This is definitely one of the best parts of the hobby. The only annoying part is that I'm taking apart most of the car and looking at all the parts that can be replaced! The shock towers, side brace, brakes, screws, gears, the list is endless.

[spenzalii]

Pretty much. I hope to get some of the build done this weekend, but that all depends on a bunch of things. I'll post the pics when I can.

Grifter, make sure you remember where all teh shims and screws go when you reassemble. And if you can, get the carbon prake pads. Trust me

[Nsxshogun]

My upgrades that I have on now
High torque servo
2.5 motor
rechargeble nicad pack
Tires
some more but im not by the car now later I plan on getting a starter box and some carbon fiber.

[Grifter]

Ok, thanks for the suggestions spenzalii. I'm not going to upgrade the pads right now, they seem easy enough to change though.
I went to the Hobby Shop today. I got a new body; HPI 911, 2 cans of paint, gears and air filter oil. That was about $50 worth of parts, I got it all for $35. No tax or anything. HAHAHA!

I just need to get the snap ring tool and I can get the gears in.

[Grifter]

I forgot to write this:
When I was at the Hobby Sop I was talking to my cousin and some guys that hang around there. We were talking about my car and they said that you can put a .26, yes a Big Block .26 in a LD3 with no problem. They said it drops right in. My cousin actually did it. A .26!! That's insane!

[Grifter]

Yet another question. I was trying to line up the body post holes, just to get an idea of where they are, and my body posts are too long to get an accurate sight. I've already messed up one body this way. How long are your body post holes? I know there's an extra set but I dont want to cut them too short.

Thanks.

[Grifter]

Update: I put the Gears in with no problems at all, it was very easy. I dont think it's possible to do it without the snap ring tool, it made the job fly by. I'm going to try and post pics of my destroyed Gears if I can.

[spenzalii]

That's a lot of posts...

First, I would like to see that 'drop in' .26. I realize that the moveable mounts would help, but the block is a bit bigger and the standard rear exhaust header will not fit. Possible, yes. Drop in, I seriously doubt it.

Body posts: U usually leave at least 5 holes from the bottom of the body support and cut from there. I'll pull the car out tomorrow and let you know exactly where mine are cut. Yeah, it is easy to mess the body up that way. One thing you can do is use straws. Take the posts off teh shock towers and screw on a small length of a drinking straw in its place. That will give you a point of reference and you should be able to put the body right over it.

And I told you that snap ring tool was a necessity. The right tool for the right job

[Grifter]

Yeah, sorry for all the posts. I just havent been able to work on my LD3 in awhile, I was just excited.

They said that the .26 is longer than the other engines, I thought there would be something difficult you'd have to do but they kept on insisting that it was very easy. I wouldnt put one in my car but it's cool to know that it's possble.

[spenzalii]

I don't doubt that it could be done at all, but I'm pretty sure 'drop in' isn't exactly the best way to describe it. O don't want anyone to think they can just go to the hobby shop, pick up a cheap big block and put it right in with no problem...

[Grifter]

Here is some pictures of my car:

[Grifter]

Hahaha, sorry about the picture I was trying to find a size and I Xed out b/c it was taking so long. I didnt know it loaded. Great picture huh?

spenzalii: I completly agree, it was pretty hard for me to get any more info out of them. They were just ranting about it. I'll try to find out more soon.

[Grifter]

Let me try this again:

[Grifter]

my favorite picture:

[spenzalii]

Medial Pro treads, huh? Very nice...

I got most of the build done yesterday. Got the sway bars, chasis, radio tray and side deck on the car. I need to finish up the wiring (what a pain in the a**), install a flat pack (the hump pack won't fit the deck), rebuild the shocks and relube the diffs. Hopefully I'll get that done this weekend

[Nsxshogun]

So you can't use a hump pack if you put on the upper deck. Isn't there a way to reconfigure it. With the sway bars will I have to buy a set for both Rear and front or front and rear come in teh package.

[spenzalii]

The only way to reconfigure the pack is to take it apart and resolder the cells. May not be worth the effort if you're not handy with a soldering iron. The swaybars come one set in a pack, so get two if you plan on running them front and rear

[Nsxshogun]

where are you going to run yourz. I dobut its worth the effort.

[Grifter]

Sounds like a sick LD3 spenzalii. Yeah those are Medial Pro's, I love them.

Good thing I got the Flat Pack...

[spenzalii]

Gotta finish the wiring 2day or 2morrow. I'm gonna use the 5 cell pack that came with my Xray. I cut the plug on the switch and installed a HPI mini plug on it. While it makes it easier to charge, since I have a few mini charge leads, I now have to change wither the switch or the battery leads when I get another pack.

I have to figure out where to mount the fail safe. I cut the battery box out since I didn't want the unit exposed to the elements. Now I just need a nice way to mount it. I'm also going to rebuild the shocks. I bought some shock bladders for a Mugen hoping they will fit, The stock ones are a bit sot and can cause the shock to leak oil. I know the Kyosho ones will fit, but very few shops in the area carry Kyosho (which is why I'm not considering the FR05)

[Grifter]

So are you mounting the Fail Safe in the battery box? Should be nice.

I just got my Fantom Pipe, Radio Tray, Rims and battery. I cant wait to get them on!

[spenzalii]

No. I had to remove the battery box for the c/f tray. The fail safe was molded into the cover. So I ended up cutting the part of the battery box that holds the failsafe.

Let me know how that fantom (single or dual chamber?) pipe sounds...

[Grifter]

Ok, I understand what you mean.

I got the Natural finish, single stage pipe. $28 shipped on eBay. I'll let you know how it sounds right after I run it.

I also meant to ask: Do you have any trouble mounting HPI bodies? My HPI 911, 200mm, doesnt sit right. The front tires line up, but the back tires dont.

[spenzalii]

Therein lies the rub. MOST 200mm bodies will fit most 20mm chasis. However, sometimes it takes a bit of trial and error, and some don't fit exactly. If you haven't put the holes in the body, try taking the posts off and place the uncut body over tha chasis. Move it until it's where you like it.

[Grifter]

I was actually thinking about doing that, and I will. I havent cut the holes yet. I dont think it's going to fit right though.

Thanks for the advice.

[spenzalii]

Definately place it down. It may not look like it will fit, but when you have it flush, you may find that it does...

[Grifter]

That's exactly what I'm thinking.

[Grifter]

Yet another question I forgot to ask. I've read about it numerous times but forgot the procedure. When re-oiling an air filter, do I just celan it with soap and water and then re-oil it, am I missing a step?

Thanks.

[spenzalii]

Basically. Make sure the filter is dry before you add the oil

[Grifter]

One more picture. Sorry for the bad lighting, I've been meaning to take some pictures outside.

[Grifter]

I put on the upper chassis and I was re-installing the electrics. I noticed that the On-Off switch doesnt seem to be able to connect anywhere. My new receiver pack doesnt allow it to plug in like my other one did. Am I missing something?

[spenzalii]

Er? The switch mounts to the tray the same way it does with the plastic tray. The problem you may have with the battery pack and the plug is common. If I'm not mistaken, the switch is a 2 plug, while the pack is 3? If that's the case, you either have to replace the plug on either the switch or the battery pack, or (better still) head up to your LHS and grab a 3 plug switch with a charge lead. That will fit the battery and the receicer and you will be able to charge the battery without removing it.

I had a 5 cell from my Xray I wasn't using, so I just changed the plug on the switch with a HPI mini plug. The plug had to sit on the outside (it's too big to fit in the box), but I have it nicely tucked in, so it shouldn't be a problem

[Grifter]

The battery is a 3 plug and the switch is a 2.

Is there anywhere I can get the plug online?

[Grifter]

Well, I have some pretty bad news. It seems like the Fantom Pipe will not fit on the LD3. :( I had to cut the header to allow the Fantom to fit without rubbing the front tire. After cutting it and making it fit right, I noticed that the fuel line is right across from the stinger, not on top of the Pipe like the stock one. This means that you have to face the stinger down towards the ground, not straight out like the stocker. This results in the stinger hitting the ground if the car were bottoms out. The car can be run with the Pipe, but I dont like the way that it's set-up. You may be able to more the fuel line inlet, but I dont know if it's worth it. I dont think it's screed down like every other pipe, if I think it's welded. So, I'm now in the market for yet another Pipe. I've got my eyes on this one. Rovarossi Pipe (http://www.nitrohouse.com/images/NOV51622%20800X600.jpg) My only concern about this pipe is where the pipe holder is. It's right where the Fantom's is. I'm wondering if this will hit the front tire like the Fantom does. Then again the Fantom is labeled as an Off-Road Pipe, and this one is an On-Road.

Any thought.

[Nightmare_au]

My battery "3 pin" plugs have said hello to my dremel :) A file will do the same job :)
Just watch you plug them in the correct way!

Originally posted by Grifter
The battery is a 3 plug and the switch is a 2.

Is there anywhere I can get the plug online?

[spenzalii]

lengthening the pressure line from the pipe would not be a problem. In some cases, it's a good thing. As for the length of the pipe, that blows...

[Nsxshogun]

A new car is in my future. I was thinking the ld3 pro, the impulse pro or if I can get a good deal on an engine a R40. What should I get? The only two problems are I don't know how costly serpents parts are and Dougs dosen't really carry parts for the ld3.

[Grifter]

Yes it does spenzalii, yes it does. I'm getting the stinger welded to a different loaction, but I'm still not crazy about the idea. What pipes are you guys running?

So, where can I get a 3 plug switch?

[Nsxshogun]

Comming from dougs I found out im gonna get the 705 with a mt12 for only 325.

grifter
I know spen is running the dynamite pipe, and for rite now im running the stock pipe. When I get the cash Im gonna probally upgrade to that pipe also.

[Grifter]

Sounds like a pretty good deal Nsx.

Any links to the Dynamite pipe? What is it for, top end or bottom end?

Thanks man.

[Nsxshogun]

Don't know about what the pipes for but heres a link. Dynamite one piece Ntc3 pipe (http://horizon.hobbyshopnow.com/products/description.asp?prod=DYN6625)

[Grifter]

It's for the TC3 but fits the LD3, cool. Well it's not a surprise they're very similar. I wish it came in black though.

I'm sure spen will let us know what it's for.

[spenzalii]

That pipe will work for the TC3 or the LD3 (and a Tamiya TGX, come to think about it). It works pretty well, and unfortunately does not come in black. That's a lot of work you're having done to your pipe, though...

For your switch, try HERE (http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXL306&P=7)

As for that Serpent, the price is great, with engine (did it come with a pipe?) but I must caution you. Serpents take A LOT of knowhow to set them up. From the suspension to the transmission to the gearing...It's a pro level car in every sense of the word. If you take some time with it, it's an amazing car. But just to bash around with, no way. And parts for a Serpent are VERY expensive, and not the easiest thing to get, either. I have seen people waiting weeks to get their parts, and that's if they order them directly. I would also check with Jim or Bill on how they order their parts for Serpent. The shop may even have trouble getting Serpent parts. Parts aren't that hard to get for the LD3. Doug's doesn't carry too much, to be sure, so I would suggest you try S&J if Doug's doesn't have it. They have a few more people that run the car so they usually have more of the pieces there in stock (I was the first one to have one in the area, though)

[Nsxshogun]

It comes almost RTR all I neeed a radio. Im probally going to use the Jr Xr2i on the 75 band. yea it had a pipe with it but I may switch it with a nova one pice. I was looking at the price parts and because there interchangeable with the impulse they aren't as expensive as some of the other cars. Im trying to get one of those set up boards as well. Can I just use the board or do I need the whole thing?

[Grifter]

Once again, thanks spen for all the info. I think I'm going to take the plunge and get that pipe. Like I said, and you said, it's a lot of stuff getting done to my Fantom pipe and I'm not too crazy about it. The link Nsx posted is the correct one right? It looks like it is, but I dont want to mess the order up.:) It comes with the header too?

Does it matter that the plug says it's for JR/Hitec/Airtronics since I put my Futaba radio in it? If it does I'll guess I'll just throw the original raidio in.

Thanks again.

[Nsxshogun]

Comes with every thing you need.

[spenzalii]

The switch doesn't matter. It will fit. Futaba used to have an oddity with their switches. They has a little lip, as it were, on the side of the plug that made sure it went in straight. Nobody else used the lip, so you ended up trimming it with a Xacto knife. I think it's off most of their newer products. The only one that had a real problem were some of the older Airtronics radio gear. The wiring was a little different before they switched to the more standard setup. Rest assured, it will work. You could always hit the LHS, though...

NSX, you're right about the pipe. It's all inside! As for the engine, I won't be able to get the new one until late April/early May. When I do, I will let you know about the CVR (but you have to have the starter box first. I can convert it back to a pullstart, but that would cost a bit more)

[Nsxshogun]

No need for the pullstart. But ill be waiting for the engine. Im gonna try to option out the ld3 for a back up car. Ill have the box to start up the serpent. I plan on getting it maybe tuesday next week. About the setup jig all I really need is teh board right. Or do I have to have every thing.

[spenzalii]

Depends on which setup jig you get. Integy and Hudy both make a good system. I would also try to pick up the XXX-Main setup book. I plan on getting mine next week. It will help immensely

[Grifter]

So what's the Dynamite Pipe for spen? Top or Low end?

[spenzalii]

You know, I'm not really sure. Turns out my engine was running a bit rich last year, so bottom end suffered. But that was with either the stock or Dynamite pipe. I believe it would be good for low end, seeing as the header is a bit longer than stock. But I can't truly speak from experience

[Grifter]

The header is longer yet it still fits? How long is the pipe? I had to cut the header to fit the Fantom and it seems to be the same size as the stock one, plus it has the hanger on the end of it, not the top of the pipe. Was there much of a difference in performance? I may just buy the stock header again and continue to use the stock pipe.

[spenzalii]

If you look at the stock header and teh Dynamite header, you see the Dynamite header goes back toward the rear wheel more before it does the 180 bend to meet the pipe. So it is longer. This, unfortunately, may create some clearance problems with the LSN on some carbs.

[Nsxshogun]

If you want the manifoild I can sell one 2 you If it fits I brought it but now have no use for it.

[spenzalii]

I think he has the stock (side exhaust) engine. Did you order the header for the side or rear exhaust? I forgot if you got the header for that 2.5...

[Nsxshogun]

It was the rear exaust. Do you know If the Mt12 and teh NOva sx-12 are comparable which gives the most power.

[Nsxshogun]

One of those motors are in that serpent i want.

[spenzalii]

Both motors are a Nova base engine, so they are very similar. Either of them will suit you fine, with a slight edge to the MT12, maybe.

[Grifter]

I have a side exhaust engine. Do you have the stock Ofna Header?

[Grifter]

...Hello...

[spenzalii]

sorry. I do have a stock header, but the threads are stripped out of it. You could use a 3x30mm cap head screw and a nut on the other end to keep it from backing off. Worked for me.

If you need a header closer than that, pick one up for a TC3. I'm sure your shop has them, and it will work with no problem.

[Grifter]

No need to apologize, I was just wondering where everyone was.

I was actually asking Nsx, I thought he said he had a brand new one that he had no use for anymore.

[spenzalii]

The one he bought was for a rear exhaust engine. It would do the Force 12 no good at all...

[Grifter]

Ahh I see. Thanks.

[spenzalii]

Speaking of that Force, you plan on getting rid of it anytime soon?

[Grifter]

Are you asking me?

[spenzalii]

methinks you are the only one with the stock motor, my friend...