Team Losi XXXNT forum v2.0

[iondsky]

Thanks for the replies, guys :)

Jim-- I already have my EPA set to give me a better throttle curve over the range I need, e.g. lower throttle ceilling. The reason I am interested in restrictors is for a better response at lower throttle input.

For example: I keep my throttle set at 75% of maximum, but I am still using the first half of my throttle curve most of the time. So at this point, I get a lot of "idling" type of response, and it takes a straight or a triple or something to clear it out and get good performance for a bit 'til it loads back up from not being able to get in the gas. If I run it any leaner on the low-end, I tend to overheat. Because on the track I'm on there aren't enough long straights to open it up and get the low-end needle out of the equation.

The reason I went through this explanation is because I know you are an experienced person :) So, let me know what you think. The same answer? Thanks!

Thom

[iondsky]

Thanks cabbynate! Part numbers are always great!

Thom

[winning edge designs]

iondsky,Yes,same answer. Since i've tried carb restrictors and have never felt any advantage over limiting high end point I don't buy them anymore. Seems like just something else to buy,with no performance advantage,other then limiting top end airflow(same as high end point). The reason a resrictor won't work at low or mid throttle openings,is the carb isn't opened as much as the restrictor flows at those settings already. So the only advantage is at high speeds.

Not only does this apply to R/C,I drag raced a sm block 55 chevy and a big block chevelle for a few years. Even with a 600 HP engine if you want to bracket race and get consistent times,you limit the gas pedal travel. Either with an electronic throttle stop,a bolt and nut(my preffered method,cheaper,LOL)nobody puts on a smaller carb....That's only Nascar so it's easier to police cheaters....Jim

[StadiumJ]

What is this "win-ter" you speak of? :D

Had a nice trip up to Sacramento this weekend. I put orange springs on the rear and installed 1 dg rear hubs. This, along with bumping my throttle rate up to 125, had me flying around the track. My friend and I were showing what XXXNT's can do. We were passing everyone at the track except for one very experienced electric buggy driver. This included some fast 1/8 buggies. Of course the claustrophobic track is much better for the XXXNT's :).

Hey guys, I'm not sure I understand your discussion on throttle. Why would you limit your throttle to 75%? Thanks.

[StadiumJ]

Oh, by the way. I popped into Capitol City RC in Sacramento. WOW! I wonder if you guys have have heard of it? Apparently they just had some nationals there a couple months ago. It's a 6000 square foot indoor track. Lots of doubles and triples and a sweet uphill-to-banked turn section. It put the track I had been using to shame. The only problem is that they're electric only. :(

[losifreak2004]

LOL yeah, California isn't all too friendly on nitro racing indoors, but I've heard of that track. A lot of guys down here like it :D

StadiumJ - If you were having problems keeping your throttle finger in check you could reduce your servo throw. This way, you could pull the trigger as far as you want, and the throttle will only open part way. Jim, isn't that 1/10 scale F1 Traction Control? LOL

Aaron

[WHITESTER1]

Nitro is a tough sell indoors. You have to have an above average fresh air supply. I was racing at the Indoor Gas Champs in Columbus in Jan. It wasn't bad when the 1/10th scales were running, but when the 1/8th scales were racing. The building would fill up with fumes very quickly. It was enough to make me sick for a couple days afterwards. I sure some brain cells were killed that weekend... LOL

[winning edge designs]

Stadium,the main reason I use throttle limiting is for smaller tracks where top speed isn't important and you can get much better gas mileage. I've gotten as much as 11-12 minutes on one tank of fuel(without adding material to get to legal 75cc) by using end point limiting,which lets you lean out the top alot. With a wide open setting I am getting about 8 minutes on a tank....Just remember if you do use this trick,you'll need to readjust the carb. More importantly,if you un-do the setting,you'll need to bring the carb setting back!........i.e,When the throttle can't get to WFO,the carb won't need nearly as much fuel to run correctly. It won't effect low end punch though....Jim

[WHITESTER1]

I just recently made the switch from Associated to Losi...
So I have yet to run any offroad with my XXXNT or XXXT. But I did notice that when I was putting together my XXXNT with the OS. TR motor. The idle adjustment screw was hitting the aluminum gear box brace. I had to dremel some of the brace to allow enough clearance for the idle adjustment screw. I thought this was important, because I didn't want the idle adjustment screw breaking off after a hard landing. LOL


Anyone else experience this????

[StadiumJ]

Ahhhhhhh! *light goes on in head*. I see, I see.

Losifreak, they are building an indoor nitro track here in Napa. But based on the outside of the building I don't see it being much. They are also banning 1/8 scale. Those things are just too damn loud!

[drdirt]

purplerides; Your decription was much better than adequate, bordering on acceptable. he he. drew emailed back to me to tell me that opening day has been postponed. I tried my hand at off road for the first time sunday at the new Jackson r/c track, and I gotta tell ya, I need MORE LAPS. It was a blast, though, and I believe I will be calling that my sunday track. They wont be opening till the end of April also, however. That leaves American Raceway in Englishtown. I'm pretty sure their opening day is the 6th. I need fumes BAD!! Looking foward to meeting you soon. thanks again, Jim

[WHITESTER1]

Can someone please post a pic of how they routed all the servo wires, and battery wires. I can't seem to find a nice way to route them. Thanks. If you can't post the pic, can you please send it to me via email....

chris1634@hotmail.com

[winning edge designs]

Whitester,The battery wires are the tricky part I think. They are meant to be routed under the engine after passsing over the transmission thru the molded in clips. I had a hard time changing a battery that way,requiring engine R&R,etc. So I routed the wires over the engine as well,thru the carb throat area.......The servo wires need to be tucked between the chassis brace and tank,tie-wraped neatly between the throttle servo and reciever cover for access.....I'll see if I can post a couple pics later if someone else doesn't quicker.....Jim

[Nutter]

Here's how I route the wiring.. basically all servo & fail-safe wires are crammed into the reciever box, and the switch wire is secured to the back of the gearbox brace with a zip tie. I have the reciever battery plug sitting in the bottom middle hole of the shock tower as it seems pretty secure there. What these pics don't show is the reciever battery wire is zip-tied to the shock tower to make sure it doesn't come out in a collision (I cut it off when I changed batteries at the track).

http://www.virtuallysane.com/images/rc/xxx-nt_wiring-01.jpg

Here's a close-up of the zip tie with the switch wires held on the back of the brace:

http://www.virtuallysane.com/images/rc/xxx-nt_wiring-02.jpg

Sorry about the dirt.. those were taken after just coming back from the track, hehe.. :p


-Nutter

[WHITESTER1]

Thanks alot guys! Saved me tons of headaches. LOL!

[jyrineE5]

I'm debating whether or not to get the XXXNT. Where is the cheapest place to get one? Also what is a good engine to put in it? I was thinking about the Fantom FR.15. Please help me with this. You guys seem to know a lot about this truck.:eek:

[Nutter]

jyrine: There are several different XXX-NT's, and you should choose the one depending on your needs & experience.

I think I saw a post from you asking about what nitro truck to get & you said you're new to r/c.. in which case you might appreciate the XXX-NT Sport RTR, it goes for about $US 339 and is fully assembled, comes with an engine, radio, etc. I say the Sport RTR as it doesn't need any assembly, so it's a good introduction to the hobby.
If you do have some experience or feel upto it, you might want to get a normal XXX-NT kit (or the all-new XXX-NT Drake Edition, but it's more expensive), it will require an engine and radio gear. You mention a Fantom FR .15.. you might want to go with a .12 as .15 engines aren't legal to race at many tracks. I have to recommend OS engines as they're very fast, powerful, reliable, and easy to tune.. check out the OS .12 TR (or the OS .12 CV-R, although I believe the TR is a newer & better engine).

*edit: oops sorry, I got you confused with jmk82, you said you do have a Nitro Rustler already.. woops! :) In that case, I still do recommend the XXX-NT kit with a OS .12 TR.


-Nutter

[purplerides]

whitester - yes with O.S. TR a little dremeling on the trans. brace was required for me also.


jyrineE5 - i think the XXXNT is the best truck out there , as for that motor i don't know about fantoms there kinda new to the nitro seen , if you race .15's are not legal , many tracks will let you run them though as long as it isn't a sanctioned race , also don't be mislead that bigger is better and faster , .12's are the race motors so that is were the technolgy goes hence your higher end race .12's are faster then most .15's. As for price my lhs has them for $269.00 , i haven't really shopped around anywhere else but i have seen them at the same price at some mail order places , i buy all my stuff at my lhs his prices compare with any mail order , plus it helps insure his business success and the track , plus i get a even further discount because i do buy my stuff there all the time.

[jyrineE5]

purplerides- that's cool. my only problem is that i live in Army Europe(Germany) and there aren't many hobby shops and i have yet to find a track around here. The only hobby shop I've found has very little to offer and the owner speaks very little english. I have relied on this BB for almost all of my questions and i have got a few answered from my dad who used to do nitro in its very early beginnnings (late 80's).:cool: thanks man.

nutter- thanks anyway for enlightening me a little further and all that good stuff. I probably will get the XXX-NT with possibly an OS .12 or the Fantom .12 non pullstart engines. take it easy guys.

[drdirt]

what do you guys think about the tr? Jim

[big_worm]

what are all the differences between the xxxnt and the xxxnt sport?? and is the sport race worthy???

[igozoom]

Dirt-Was wondering the same thing as I am motor shopping. Nutter seems so happy with his that I bet he has to wander off and touch himself after seeing his truck on the bench.:D
Jim (W.E.D.) says it's a great motor; however, may be too much of a good thing for me with 3-4 months in the hobby of racing weekly.

I am running the Picco that came with the NT RTR and it seems hard to beat. Power curve is well balanced. This suits my driving style ( Go fast, crash hard, leave a good looking chassis!) very well.

I am now down to getting another Picco w/ the os 10er carb or going with the CVR. Really leaning hard toward another Picco.

Tarveymoto runs a rear exhaust Picco with slide carb. Man that thing was laying down some vicious lap times without a lot of tire spin. Guess alot of that is driving experience.

Anyone else wanna weigh in on the TR?

[igozoom]

Was out getting my trucks ready for practice tomorrow night. What a mess. Opened my tire bin and felt like I woke up after a huge party with beer bottles everywhere. Did we test every flippin tire we had? I had to wash 8 sets of tires! lol

My diff did pee the bed ! Does not even move. I knew I was pushing it. At least it got me through the main. Won't happen again as I now have an extra diff, all built up and ready to go !!!!!

My Broward head will be here tomorrow. Woohoo! Also ordered 4 sets of the Proline high impact dual stage foams. Question, do you trim the edges or leave them on for a little extra side bite?

Looks like we are moving the triple right in front of the drivers stand to make it easier to line up during night racing. Also moving the straight to the back. Guess now I will be able to check my engine temp from the drivers stand as truck comes by. lol

Does the Picco rear exhaust come with a rotary carb or do I have to make like a road freak and use a slide ?

[cabbynate]

Igozoom

I have the new Picco .12 standard exhaust rotery carb engine and I love it. I am running the AE pipe and MIP header and it has lots of bottom and mid range and ok top end. I have to say I like it more than my CV-R. The power band is more smooth.

[DaLoSiGuYWiTdAxXxNt]

k lemme try again. da picture might be small.

[DaLoSiGuYWiTdAxXxNt]

lets see if dis works

[DaLoSiGuYWiTdAxXxNt]

yay i got it working

[DaLoSiGuYWiTdAxXxNt]

heres my xxx nt. ill post wut it has tomorrow.

[Nutter]

O_o
What's up with the ride height man.. ever heard of arms/bones level? :p

igozoom: Oops, I think I said that wrong then. ;) I don't have a TR, I have a CV Hyper.. but yes, I'm so happy with it that I recommend the TR, as it's supposed to be the best racing OS .12, and purplerides seems happy with the performance of his. :)


-Nutter

[igozoom]

Cabbynate - Thanks for the response. Interesting that you are using the AE pipe. I was told that it provides more bottom end. I have plenty of bottom so I thought that it would end up making the the Picco more like the CV R.

Have you tried the Losi pipe? Interested in your comments regarding differences. Also, Is your Picco the 12 RC Speed? Who has the best deals on Picco's?

Nutter - right with you sir. Recommending engine based on experience with OS in general. I feel the same way about Picco's once I got rid of that nasty carb.

Can anyone make recommendations as to the best place to get a good deal on motors?

[cabbynate]

Igozoom

Yes it is the RC12 speed. Dark blue head. I use the AE pipe because Adam Drake had the same set up here in Vegas and his truck ran sweet. I have not tried the stock losi pipe. I have four pipes. A Trinity Hi-Torque pipe, a Picco Pro, the stock losi and the AE pipe. The AE is the only one that I have used on this engine. It works so well I have had no reason to experament. I have a friend that has the Trinity pipe on the same engine and he pulls the front end up at will. I would think the Picco pro pipe would give me more top end but I don't need it. I run my slipper fairly lose so I don't lift the front end easy but if I hit a small bump mid stright while I'm on the gas the front end gose stright for the sky. :)

I got mine at Hobby People. The price on the box was $153.99 BUT in there R/C catalog the price is $134.99. I showed the manager the catalog price ane he gave it to me for that.
The thing is it has the same part no as the old engine.
I'm sure they will get it stright soon.

[StadiumJ]

What is the best way to attach the spoiler? I've tried double-sided & mounting tape, but it came off way too easily. Thanks

[lositeamdriver]

see nate thats a good motor till you need to rebuild it becuse piston and sleves are around 65 bucks for that motor. so ill run my cv all day and when you run out of gas my cv will still be ok fast but not super but i get great gas milelage.. wait till the new ofna .12 re comes out its rated at 1.39+ h.p. yahoooooooo...


and i was wandering if any one has had problems with there brake clips? i broke mine yester day aand i was wandering does any one use the stock ones or the trinity ones?

[Nutter]

Stadium: Most people use 2 screws/bolts to attach it.. even skidding down the straight backwards on my roof at full speed doesn't rip it off! Not that I do that a lot.. no.. never.. hehe :p


-Nutter

[purplerides]

stadium - i double back tape my spoiler on to hold it in place , then i use 3 or 4 short 4-40 screws and nuts spaced evenly across.

i've always get good mileage out of my Picco , but then again i get good mileage out of all my motors i think allot of it depends on driving style etc. and of course proper tuning , i haven't really had enough time on the track with the O.S.TR but i think i'm getting slightly less with it , not sure though i only raced it in Ohio so i haven't really raced it were i'm real familiar with my normal mileage , plus it's not totally raced tuned yet it's still so tight that i can't turn it over by hand , and 1 day last week i let my son drive it , now keep in mind he's only 2 1/2 years old , i turned the atv down to 7% so it would go faster then i could run (clutch never fully engaged) so i probably burnt the clutch up , which i don't care i'll put a new clutch in everyday to see that glow on my sons face and that sparkle in his eyes he had while driveing my truck , of course i was so happy i'm sure my face looked the same ,i could believe how good he drove it , steering it doing figure "8"s and circles giving it throttle and letting off the throttle when he was going to hit something, we were out there about 2 1/2 - 3 hours and the motor is still so tight i can't turn it by hand , he likes monster trucks and keeps looking at my clod buster that is need of repair , so i'm going to buy a TMaxx for him , the new house i just bought has 2 acres of ground and there ain't a tree for him to hit in the back yard , plus there's room for me to build a good sized practice track , " it's for the kid honey honest"....LOL.


i better get practicing at this rate by time he's 7 i won't be able to beat him , national champ at 10...LOL

[drdirt]

purplerides; You MUST be trying to get on my good side. 2 acres in N.J. Dude I can get good clay. How close to Brick are you anyway. LMFAO Are you going to make e-town on the 7th? Jim:cool:

[losifreak2004]

The stock Losi pipe has the powerband set to hit higher in the RPM range, which makes it a little harder to keep the tires from spinning. The AE pipe is about the easiest to control, except for the GTX pipe.

Stadium - I use three 1/4" countersunk screws and washers to fasten my spoilers.

Lositeamdriver - The new Ofna is a 7 port and is not legal for racing. I have never broken the stock brake clips, but I have the Trinity ones on my race truck anyway, just for the cool factor...stock brake hub though on both my trucks.

I believe the Fantom engines are tuned Nova Rossi based engines (not TOO sure about that), and are a little more high strung then anything. NOT exactly user friendly....

I'll stay with my CV-R over a new TR......for .1 more horsepower and 2,000 more RPM, I gotta put down more $$$ and I don't exactly like the fact of holding my header on with a spring instead of two screws.....

I miss anything?
Aaron

[cabbynate]

Losifreak2004

I agree with you 100% about the AE pipe. Very easy to control.
With lots of power.

Lositeamdriver

When I wear out the piston & sleeve I will just spend the money and rebuild it. I really like this engine.
I use the Trinity break clips. I never tried the stock ones.
You racing Saturday?

[DaLoSiGuYWiTdAxXxNt]

im gonna post another picture of my car so my frends at skewl can see it tomorrow

[Lord Radeon]

losifreal, the TR is also much mroe gas efficient.. up to 10% more

[igozoom]

Thanks guys for all of the pipe info. I will try the AE. My power band seems very smooth with the Losi pipe. I can't imagine better, but I have got to try it.

I want to know where Picco rebuild kits cost 65.00. I am paying 80.00. :mad:

Tarvey runs that new Trinity pipe. Said that it hits pretty hard. Course he's running the Picco round port rear axhaust and a slide carb. I think the motor would hit hit hard with a toilet paper roll as a pipe !

Now, who is running the AE spring in their Losi diff ? Comments ?

[dkj-M3]

What foams do you guys use for racing, front & rear?
I run the stock diff set-up, works for me, no prob. The spring does sound better tho.:p http://www.blackgoku.com/Knightmare.gif

[purplerides]

i'm running the AE spring , i like it better then the washers , seems smoother and last longer. i don't think there's any thing wrong with the stock washers , but i think because the washers adjustment range is so narrow that the spring is easier to set up and stays within the proper press. adj. longer due to it's wider range , and as the diff parts wear that it helps prevent damage , i think with the losi washers that as the diff wears in you must stay on top adjustment because of there narrow range which isn't a problem unless it's during the middle of a long main that it decides it's time to adjust then it slips then your race is over.

i run the trinity pro pipe , when first started running the picco motors i tried several pipes from stock losi to ae and paris , the picco motor develops plenty of low end torque and on a slick track which depending on the weather my home track can get real slick , and seemed esp. with the AE and paris pipes which develop allot of power down low made it tough to get traction , i then put the trinity pro pipe on in smooothed the bottom out and help the high end with smooth transition through the whole range , i tried it with my old O.S. CZZ and liked it with that motor also better then other pipes i used with it.

i run trinities brake clips , i did break a stock one after about 5 months of abuse , and the trinity ones were given to me they were prototyes and they weren't blue :D so i put them on , i built a whole spare trans. so if i ever blow a diff. or any other gear i'd just swap the whole trans out quicker then the diff. or gear plus i wouldn't have to break the trans case open at the track , and i bought the clips for that , i haven't used that trans. yet but about 4 other people have...LOL

[Nutter]

I run the diff washers with them all pointing in the same direction rather than 6 one way and 6 the other.. I wouldn't mind knowing why Losi still uses washers though as a spring does sound better..


-Nutter

[Racin Rev]

The washers are less prone to variance and can be tightened without bottoming out.

FYI I got a xxxnt in the fall and the instructions were ammended by Losi to suggest that the washers all go the same way.

[WHITESTER1]

losifreak,
I have never had a header come loose because of the spring. They are pretty much fool proof. I have seen other racers headers come loose because screws backed out of the engine. But NEVER a rear exhaust header held on by a spring. I'm talking both small block and big block motors.

[DaLoSiGuYWiTdAxXxNt]

can u guys tell me how u set u da AE diff spring? it there same performance as the washers?

[lositeamdriver]

cabbynate yes i will be laying the smack down in sport if i dont break and thats a big if....

also i might be getting the new team orion .12 or the fantom any one have info on these? and the ofna picco .12 re 7 port motor any info on this one?

thanks guys

[losifreak2004]

Lord Radeon - Many big races now go by a mandatory amount of pit stops and no longer tech tanks for fuel. Either way, I have never had a problem making run time, and they always add an extra mandatory pit stop so that everyone really short pits. There is no reason really to get an engine with such little advantages over the old one.

(Note: that, and my engines are ported by some of the best in the business. I have no doubt in my mind what work is done more than makes up for the power loss and fuel mileage, as well)

Lositeamdriver - The new Orion .12's (as well as the soon to be released Yokomo .12's) are exactly identical to the Trinity/Picco engines....you know why? Because Picco has signed a contract to market the same engine under all three company names. In fact, the Orion is the trinity motor with the head soaked in oven cleaner to take off the blue anodizing and the Picco P has been scratched off the case. Many factory Trinity drivers were not too happy to hear this....

The Fantom motors are way too high-strung for what they are worth. And the new 7 port will not be legal for off-road racing, which is entirely OK....too much power anyway.

WHITESTER - Yeah, the springs are durable, but I just feel better having the screws in there. A little Loctite and we're good to go. In fact, many factory Trinity drivers use the side exhaust engines for the same reason!

dkj - Many times I use the foam that comes with the Losi tires, which is now only to be the Losi "firm" foam.

DaLosiGuy - Put the spring in the same way you would the washers, with a washer on the adjuster side of the spring, like this //spring//>adjuster as well as the washer on the thrust side of the diff. Tighten until it doesn't slip. That's all!

Nutter - Losi can use the washers in all three cars, and the spring is not necessary at all in the electric cars, so they just use them in the NT also.

Did I miss anything?
Aaron

[iondsky]

Haha, no, Aaron, you didn't miss anything :)

Man, I love this message board. It is a great source of info and opinions.

Thanks to all.

Thom

[losifreak2004]

Good! That was a lot of typing!

LOL

Aaron

[lositeamdriver]

good job aaron you anwsered every thing

thanks bubba

hey aaron did you meet the drunk bum when you where here in vegas? ... i still laugh about it..

[purplerides]

at my local track all of are longer mains we have mandatory pits they figure each vehicle to go 7 1/2 mins. per tank , 15 min. main 1 pit , thirty min. 3 pits etc.

i use the picco round ports i never had a spring break or fall off , and hasn't happened on the 1/8th scale either , if i were to get cocerned with it i would use some bailing wire to hold them on to the head , but that concern hasn't come up but a remedy has already been planned :D , i have seem bolts come loose that were loctited , but i never had it happen to me when i used the standard type header , but the round port/spring type header is easier and faster to work on in case in were necessary to remove which isn't often.

[Paul E. Garcia]

Hi,

Just picked up my XXX-NT last Sunday. Thought I'd ask for any tips you guys can offer on suspension set-up (stock, one of the setups form the Losi website, something else).

Also, do you think I should run the pipe with or without a fitting attached for the pressure line? Thanks again.

[Nutter]

Adam Drake's standard setup was recommended as a starting point here.. from that I've found I had to soften the suspension a lot (softer springs and lighter oil), but it's good.


-Nutter

[cabbynate]

I'm with Nutter.

I ended up going with the AD set up but am using Red springs/32.5wt in the rear.

[tarvymoto]

I CAN'T BELIEVE IT!!! After a couple of hard days abuse to my truck at the Jacksonville track ,w/ only a broken shock tower,-DELTA AIRLINES broke a TI ballstud off in my Trinity alum rear hub carrier. UURRRGG:( I had it packed up NICE but those guys put it on me:D . And I thought I was saving $$$ by checking it on the plane and not shipping it:D Ohh well . Jim I don't want to here it about the aluminum:p I know I know serves me right:eek:

Oh yeah , and all that happend after I saved my truck from a dip in the inlaw's pool courtisy of my wife;) Pregnacy hormones will get ya every time. Have you guys ever herd the story of Dr. Jeckle and Mr. Hyde:p well translate that into the female version.lmao

[Nutter]

tarvy: Don't say that! :( I'm gonna be taking my XXXT, XXX-NT, and the rest of my r/c gear on the plane with me as luggage in 3 weeks when I move to Canada. I hope they don't get broken too! :(

My reason for taking them on as luggage isn't so much cos it's cheaper.. but cos I don't trust the postal service with my pride & joys. :p ;)


-Nutter

[jyrineE5]

Right now I have a nItro Rustler and I want to get a XXX-NT Sports RTR. But, sadly I don't have the funds. And to make matters worse, my freind(who by the way just got on this BB as NitroJyrine03) who got hooked on my Rustler is buying a XXX-NT Sports RTR this afternoon. He'd better let me drive it.:D

[iondsky]

Paul- The only setup I have seen anyone (other than myself) running at my local track is Adam Drake's setup. I run reds in the rear with orange up front. Just works for me for some reason :D

My local shop just got a large load of the Sport RTR's. I'm expecting to see a whole herd of those things on the track in a couple of weeks! I saw one running last night, and it looked and sounded good. My recommendation to anyone wanting an RTR for sure.

Thom

[WHITESTER1]

Hey Nutter, where in Canada are you moving too?

[rc10tc3drivr]

how do you guys set your brake

[purplerides]

i use no drag brake that's set with the collar closest to the servo, and for my push brake i set my atl to around 60% useing the back collar and adjust so the brakes just won't lock up , then during the race if i need more brake i increase my atl with my thumb if i need less i still have plenty of room to take some out with my thumb.

[tarvymoto]

is Vineland a no-go for next weekend?

I use a hint of drag brake for tight tracks.

[Nutter]

whitester1: Oakville, Toronto :)


-Nutter

[purplerides]

tarvy - April 6th is opening day i'll be there , if you can't make it, ok there's plenty of other weekends , if you can make it great practice starts 12:30

[rcboy618]

Adam Drake Edition XXX-NT is coming out sometime during may!!!! i think the fury-nt body is sweet. go to the losi for more info.

[DaLoSiGuYWiTdAxXxNt]

will anyone make aluminum suspension arms or tranny case?

[lositeamdriver]

ok here you go aaron??

well i was running my truck and i notice my idle is funky like when i go wide open and let off it idels really low and when i hit the trottle like mid throttle or little bit it idles really high i i just put all new low clear fuel line on still does it and i think that my tank lid might no seal very good or some thing help me!! i think that it just loads up and thats why it idles so low any help guys???

[tarvymoto]

I should be able to make it.

[bullett1818]

Ok I dont hve time to read through all 76 pages here so Do any of you XXX NT owners have any serious problems with the XXX weather it be RTR, Kit or whatever? I know I had the HONOR of driving one today and I loved it! The truck just flies. Teh only problem the owner had with his which is new is that when he hits the brake teh engine dies. Could this be because his clutch is too tight ?? or what? I hope to Own a XXX NT Bench bilt soon unless any of u losi owners think I should go different. Thans ahead of time.

[WHITESTER1]

Originally posted by Nutter
whitester1: Oakville, Toronto :)


-Nutter

Nutter after you get all settled in, your gonna have to get ahold of me. We have an awesome Gas Truck class, and Mod Truck class about 2 hours from you. We run on Sundays. The competition is pretty good around here. A few people from Canada will be making the trek to our track. It is located just outside of Niagara Falls, New York, USA.

There is a track that is fairly new near you, but it is TOO BIG.. I mean silly stupid big. I think the straightaway is something around 250 feet. That is just too big! Everyone's engines top out half way down the straight.... that is just lame in my book!!

[igozoom]

Bullet - You come to a site where guys sleep with their xxx nt's and you are asking if it's a good truck ? hehehe

I bought a xxx nt rtr le and fell in love. Still drove like a goon, however, the truck, for my driving style (oxymoron:D), handles like a dream.

I have had the truck four months and liked it so much I bought a second one. Buy lunsford turnbuckles, some pink and orange shocks so you can tune the suspension, and go have fun!

PS- If you want to save yourself a lot of hate and discontent, read the 76 pages. There are some very intellegent, very fast, very smart people here that are kind enough to share their insight and experience. Take advantage of it. ;)

[Nutter]

lositeamdriver: Sounds like it might be your throttle servo.. it might not be centering correctly (common in anything but high-end servos).

bullet: No problems here, but then again my truck is anything but stock.. just make sure you get titanium turnbuckles and you'll be set. It sounds like your friend has his idle speed set too low, but I'm not much of a nitro tuner.. I just fiddle till it works, hehe. :p

whitestr1: Cool, sounds awesome, especially as I run both mod truck and nitro truck! I'll definately try to get down there some time, although it'll be a while I think as I'll need to get a car first, and get used to driving on the 'wrong' side of the road.. :p
250ft straight tho... omg!! O_o That really is too much.. gulp.


-Nutter

[Nutter]

Originally posted by igozoom
Bullet - You come to a site where guys sleep with their xxx nt's and you are asking if it's a good truck ? heheheYou make it sound wrong.. :p

PS- If you want to save yourself a lot of hate and discontent, read the 76 pages. There are some very intellegent, very fast, very smart people here that are kind enough to share their insight and experience. Take advantage of it. ;)Yea, I have to agree with this completely.. reading through all the thousands of posts too a LONG time, but is was very, very worth it! It's the best thing you can do.


-Nutter

[lositeamdriver]

it centers perfect its a jr 4750 i think i think it just might be the load up from the high speeds or it might be my low end is a little lean

[bullett1818]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by igozoom
[B]Bullet - You come to a site where guys sleep with their xxx nt's and you are asking if it's a good truck ? hehehe

LOL I kinda expected to get that type a response. Actually Im glad I got it because It truely tells me how much y'all love ur xxx nt. I will take all your advise and get the titanium turnbuckles. Thanks to all of you and I hope to soon become a LoSiXxXnTfReAk!!! lol Thanks again.

[WHITESTER1]

Nutter, I was wrong... The track that is very close to you is in Copetown.. and they only run 1/8th scales.

But you will need to come to our local track. You will have fun. We get about 40 guys. Like I said just get ahold of me when you get all settled in.

[purplerides]

bullet - right now it's the most advanded best handling truck on the market , here's a couple of quick things your friend could check for reason it's stalling.

1) check idle screw adjustment

2) clutch or clutch spring could be broken.

3) clutch bearing/s could be seized.

there's a short list of the first things i'd check let us know how he makes out if any of those don't correct it the problem let us know we'll think of more.

[bullett1818]

I have made my choice! I was at Lost's web site and I see their comming out with the XXX-NT Adam Drake Edition and I WILL OWN one. I love the body on that thing. The truck itself just looks awesome. I cant wait for it to come out and see what teh price is. Because I want that BADLY! Heres the link. XXX_NT Adam Drake Edition (http://www.teamlosi.com/kits/xxxnt_drake.htm) What do y'all think?
:D

[bullett1818]

Ok fter I just posted the last I went to Horizon hobby and they have the Drake edition listed for 319.00 I will own it:D I just had to add that.

[losifreak2004]

Lositeamdriver - Yeah, I talked to him LOL

bullett - It's a racers dream :D

Gotta leave, party time!

I'll get the rest of this stuff before tomorrow night, leave me your questions!

Aaron

[OmegaTrac]

Hey all,
I have the RTR Limited Edition and I am wanting to upgrade a few components. First off, I want to upgrade the pipe and manifold. I am thinking about the AE non ps blue manifold with the AE blue pipe. What will be the performance effect of getting this pipe/manifold combo?


Also, I want to get a new steering servo. One that is a little quicker than the stock JR servo. What would you guys recommend?

Thanks

[lositeamdriver]

well the servo is like .12 at liek 79 oz of toqure it anient that slow but i found i was running my bottow way too rich i just talk jason ayers a factory associated guy and he qualifed like 5 of some thing in the a mian at silver state with a os cv so i have to rebuild my motor and i will keep on running my cv i guess i have to tune it for around 240 and not try to get it around 210 becuse i guess the cranks case is black so it asorb the heat better so when you run it at 240 it suposed to be hella quick so ill let you guys know


sorry about no periods i am sun burt and tried sorry

[igozoom]

Raced last night. Two different people showed up with the rtr sports so I thought I would tell everyone about them. Thought this would be a good test as one of the drivers is in the A main week in and week out.

The sport rtr took second place in the A main ! The newer driver made it into the A main; however, broke a front A arm and dnf'd after swapping some paint with another driver.

The .15 motor seems to have plenty of power. The driver was able to clear our cross over double and even jumped the 30 foot triple.

The car comes with orange springs all the way around and black three hole pistons. The suspenion seems set up to react more slowly than the standard kit or rtr le.

The plastic has a unique sheen to it and appears to be a different material than the normal losi plastics. It appears that most parts are poured from the same mold and can be swapped. ( One of the guys broke a rear A arm and swapped it out with standard rear.

The one interesting thing I noted was that the slipper clutch spindle screw appears to be significantly longer (1/8th inch?) than the standard Losi spindle. I could find no design reason for this.

For 319.00 (our local hobby shop price), it appears that this is a spectacular truck and radio for the money. Any and all parts can be upgraded, using Losi or aftermarket parts, giving someone on a limited budget an opportunity to upgrade or customize at thier convenience, without making the instant monetary commitment for the rtr le. IMHO, Losi has done it again and is going to make a lot of money on this truck. my two cents.

[Nutter]

Yea I heard somewhere that it uses a different plastic.. I wonder what's different about it though.
You say "most parts are poured from the same mold and can be swapped".. does this mean you noticed some that were different? :confused:

The Sport sounds like a very good truck for the money, but I'm not suprised as it's a Losi.. well done again to them! :)


-Nutter

[WHITESTER1]

I read in one of the RC mags, that all the parts are interchangable. Meaning arms, spindles, shocktowers etc...

[tarvymoto]

Did you get your airbrush yet?

I gave my NT a new lid;)

[lositeamdriver]

ok i didnt want to get no one happy or nothing but there are proto types comming out for you to put 1\8 scale tires on your gt or xxxnt it will be a conversion kit

[OmegaTrac]

I see no one has even made me any comeback on my post.........

[Poolboy51]

This has probably been asked before, but duz anyone break a lot of parts? The sport RTR looks like a great deal. Im suprised it won 2nd in da A-main. But I guess its whos driving the car, not the car.

[tarvymoto]

The Assosiated pipe will give you more low end punch. Try it if you think you can use more snap.You may have to be carefull w/ the trottle under loose conditions but if you're hooked up it will give you some good pull.

Servos: I'm running Futaba 9402's for steering and throttle in my NT. Futaba is expensive but the quality is superb. I also have Hitech digital servo's in my XXX and XXXT for steering. They seem to be of high quality and have great specs for the price. Look for something .13 secs or faster and 75oz torq or more.

[lositeamdriver]

ok i talk to a associated guy o no well yes i did and he told me to take off my header and dremel it out and it will take away bottom end but it will creat more power has any one did this?

[Lord Radeon]

Losi: he is wrong, dremel it out will increase top end, because there will be less backpressure on the engine.


I run a Hitec 5945 for steering and 5925 for throttle. AWESOME servos ($80 each)

5945 - 180 oz/in @.13
5925 125 oz/in @ .08

[Lord Radeon]

I also run the Picco Pro pipe with MIP manifold, smoothest combo out there with plenty of low end, yet still more top end then most pipes out there

[lositeamdriver]

lord yes i run a cv he does too and he came in like 5th at silver state with a os cv running at like 235 and he did that we have like a 120 feet stright and you need the top end thats what i need i will try it i run a associated pipe and i have enough bottom i just need more top end

[dkj-M3]

Hey Lord Radeon, where did you get'em for that price?:eek:

[lositeamdriver]

well i have found out i tried it lord and it made a noticeable differance and i had to retune the motor so i mean now it runs better and faster maybe ill give cabbynate a run this weekend insted of breakin agin

[Poolboy51]

Originally posted by Poolboy51
This has probably been asked before, but duz anyone break a lot of parts? The sport RTR looks like a great deal. Im suprised it won 2nd in da A-main. But I guess its whos driving the car, not the car.



AHEM!:mad:

[Lord Radeon]

DKJ at a point in time, stormer hobbies sold em for $79.95... but now they're $89.95.... still great price for em though

[Lord Radeon]

poolboy, chill or get off the bbs,.... i doubt any of us HAVE a sport RTR.... if somebody does, your question WILL be answered... jeez calm down dude :(

[WHITESTER1]

Why would someone want 1/8th scale tires on a 1/10th scale truck??? LMAO!!! Corny!

[igozoom]

Nutter - sorry, my statement was misleading. I was trying to convey that I was not able to verify that all parts were identical.....not to mention trying to figure out why the slipper clutch shaft was longer.

Tarveymoto, yes sir I did. Bought an Iwata Eclipse HP- BCS. Got it brand new for 80.00. The LHS wanted 130 !!!!!!! Haven't fired it up yet. Need a little compressor and some kind of moisture trap. I am saving my clear two litre bottles to practice on.

I did however ramp up my ride. Broward head, Robinson Racing diff gear, ae carbide balls, and the Associated diff spring. After all this I failed to Loctite my motor mounts and cooked my flanged clutch bearing before I made it to the table top in front. Felt like an idiot. Glad it happened during practice.

Drove horrible last night. 1st in the first heat, 4th in the second and third in A main. I flamed out for a lap and took third !!! It was a blood bath. Charles crashed me again ! It just wasn't the same without you here.

I tried to attach pictures and couldn't because it ways that file was bigger than 62K? Do you compress the file or something?

Your ride looks sweet. When r u coming back so you can teach me how to airbrush ? hehehe :D

[igozoom]

Poolboy - I can't speak for everyone on here, but I break parts and I have the rtr le. If you push the limits of your driving ability, you break stuff. If you do stupid things, you break stuff. If you don't break things, you wear them out.

My impression of the sport rtr is that it is a great truck. The truck is competative for serious racing, in the hands of the correct driver. I have some major cheese tied up in my truck including a lot of aftermarket stuff, running a motor with twice the HP of the sport, and I got spanked by one last night. It's 80% driving and 20% properly maintained equipment. Maybe even 90%

Disclaimer - while I know I just spoke the truth, it will not stop me from buying the next hopped up, no performance gain, killer cool factor doodad.

:D

[WHITESTER1]

I have had NOTHING but bad luck with Hitec servos. I have owned 3 Hitecs, and all of them broke. The first two were the high torque .22 speed ones. I broke those, so I figured I would go to the expensive one, the high speed digital. That one broke too! Now I ONLY run Jr servos... The 8450's. I run them in all my vehicles.. .08 speed, 188oz of torque. They are, in my opinion simply the best!!

[purplerides]

i think the Z8450's have like 100oz torque and are fast , i run the Z8550's they have 188oz torque but are a little slower at .15 , there both great servo's and as JR advertises them practically unstripable , i haven't had a problem yet.

[Paul E. Garcia]

Seems like the AD setup is the consensus fav out there; I'll give it a shot once I'm broken in!

I have a few more questions, but here's my set-up first:

Mugen Seiki MT-12 engine - rear port (non p/s), large (11 fin) head
Mugen Seiki exhaust header
Hitec 605MG BB servo for steering (93 oz-in, 0.13 seconds @ 6v)
Airtronics 94102 (standard) throttle/brake servo
M8 radio

First question: are the electronics up to the task? I feel good about the Hi-Tec, but am not sure about the standard servo for throttle/brake. Any recommendations?

Second question: what is the best way to break in the engine? The instructions state that I shouldn't use more than 1/2 throttle until the engine has 2 liters through it, but this just doesn't sound right.

Third question: What needle settings should I start with at break in? The instructions don't give the ballpark needle settings; they just say that the needles are pre-set at the factory (which I can't verify without the actual numbers).

Fourth question: Although I don't have a problem with the exhaust header being lower than the chassis (like I've read about earlier on this BB), the stock body won't clear the header (or the cooling head, for that matter). I'm pretty sure I'll have to hack up the body, but wanted to get some advice first.

Thanks again guys. I read some of the earlier posts and am truly impressed with the patience and technical soundness (from what I can tell) being displayed here.

P.S. Anybody in SoCal (especially Inland Empire area), let me know where you race. Thanks.

[rcboy618]

try the airtronics 94737, it was made to be a 10 scale throttle/brake servo. it is very good for the job too. i have been running it for a year now without any problems.

their is sun valley micro speedway, pegasus hobbies, and extreme rpm. i dont know how far those places are from you, but those are some good tracks to go to.

[purplerides]

Poolboy - i haven't personally seen one except what's in the mags. there basically the same truck but the plastics materials are different there made of a more flexable material to help prevent breakage , which probably take away from the handling a little , but being the XXXNT is the best handling truck out there , it should still handle pretty good , in the event you were to break it or would like to put the stiffer sususpension components on all of the parts from the standard XXXNT will fit right on for the price they look like a pretty good way to get in and enjoy the hobby.

Lord Radeon - i can't understand your attitude telling poolboy for one that nobody here would have the sport model and secondly telling him to get off the bb , he can come on here just like anybody else , the last time i checked nobody on here owns this bb , i just thank car action for providing a media to talk to others in this hobby.

[purplerides]

Paul - the numbers on your steering servo look good , you need at 70oz. for steering but i find it does work better when you get up around 90oz , i not real familiar with Hitec i do know a friend of mine had a problem with them but i'm not sure what model it was it could have been a junky low end model , as for throttle i like more then 70oz here also but it's not mandatory , i have use standard servo's for the throttle before and so do many others , on top of the fact it's what you got use it when you fry one and want to ungrade do so then.

engine break in you can ask 100 people and you'll get 100 different answers , normally i run a tank or two blubbery rich on the starter box then start driving it slow leaning out the top end about an 1/8th each tank once i start drivng it around , let cool between tanks(make sure that when motor is off that piston is at BDC ) , once you get the top end set to where it's running good i normally have 5-6 tanks through it then , i run an extra tank with the same high end needle setting to make sure it's good then i set the low end , clear motor out then let sit and idle for about 6 secs then take full throttle , if it bogs a little lean the bottom end an 1/8th take a clear pass then try again , it should take off with bogging but also shouldn't go screaming out of control , also after a high speed pass stop the car in front of you it should idle consistantly the idle shouldn't be high then drop off wich is a sign of a rich bottom end , note the bottom end is normally pretty close on most motors you normally don't lean it more then a 1/4 from factory settings.

i don't know what the factory settings are for that motor , a friend of mine runs one , he likes it and is fast and seems reliable but i don't own one so i'm not sure of the settings.

trinity makes a header which fits under the body no problem but you already have yours and your head still may be tight , the Triton body by losi was made for rear exhaust motors and it offers allot more room around the head also i run the O.S.TR with an oversized head and i had to go to the Triton body.

sorry i'm in N.J. freezing my butt off in the cold rain...LOL

[dkj-M3]

I've had no problems with my Hi-tech HS-5925MG. Used for steering on my truck since I've had it(4 months). Just ordered another for my new Super nitro:D

[dkj-M3]

Does anyone know of a durable rotary carb engine that compares to an HPI Evo II(Nova) slide carb?:confused: I'm looking to put the Evo II in my Super Nitro. It just has to much punch for off-road, I have to turn my radio ESP down, put the 20 tooth clutch bell on, loosen the slipper & still have to baby the throttle & this is on a high bite, blue groove track. I placed 3rd B-main in my 2nd ever race LOL. I have the LE-RTR, broke the rod in the Picco. I figure with a rotary carb(more forgiving on throttle sensitivity) I'm in the A-main.:ohttp://www.blackgoku.com/Knightmare.gif


Any comments on...
1. Mugen, REX NOVA ROSSI .12 ENGINE with rotary carb
2. HPI, .12R RC EVOLUTION II ENGINE, with ROTARY CARB, pullstart
3. Picco Paris, .12 NOVAROSSI CX12R PRO ENGINE ROTARY CARB, non-pullstart
4. OS-CVR
5. Any others

[tperkins]

at www.team-orion.com it says that there is a new adam drake edition to be released in may, with a lot of graphite, just like on the mf edition of the xxxt!

[purplerides]

dkj-m3 - there all pretty good motors i haven't had any problems with Picco's , but it would be hard to argue with the ease of tuning and reliability of O.S. engines , i'm now running the O.S.TR there fast reliable.

[dkj-M3]

purplerides - Do you race with the O.S. TR, if so
1. How many gallons do you have through it?
2. Do you run on a tight or open track?
3. & what clutch bell size do you run?

Thanks.
Oh yeah, tuning is not a problem for me any more.

[purplerides]

dkj-m3 - i got the TR during the off season my race season starts this sat. , i did race in ohio in Jan. that was it's first race weekend , i raced my Picco for the last 2 seasons , i race an O.S. CZZ prior to that , my local track is tight but slick , i run the stock gearing pretty much everywhere.

[dkj-M3]

purplerides - the CRCRC gas champs race I was there & that's my local track(the closest 1 anyway). that was the 1st time my truck was on a track on the practice days. I didn't race cause I didn't know I needed titanium turn-buckles & didn't know what in the heck I was doing. I tried but just kept breaking(wreaking), my fault. Didn't want to waste my $50, Oh well. I'm much improved now, considering I surpased some of the guys who have been racing a lot longer than me.
I think I'm going to get a Nova based engine. I like everything about my Evo II except the slide carb. Learned the hard way about S-carbs & off-raod racing. I did learn throttle control tho.

[dkj-M3]

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I'm going to put my current Evo II slide in my Super Nitro, & get another & buy the rotary carb for my truck. Do you know where to get the R-carb & will it just bolt on or does it need any mods?

[purplerides]

yea i raced at the winter champs for the last four years , they run a good show , all of the the small block motors should fit in with no mods. , all of the nova based motors run good so i don't think you can go wrong. the barrel carbs. do seem to work better in offroad.

[tarvymoto]

I've got my NT all ready to go for Saturday. I rebuilt the diff and stuck a shiney new spurgear on it:D . What tires are you starting with?

I'm also going to run an eclectric class too. I'll run mod truck or buggy (whichever has the most entries). I've herd you say you run the 4wd GT class too. I don't have one , but it sounds like fun.

Igozoom , let me know how you like your diff set-up. I just replaced the diff gear/balls/washers and the thrush balls/washers all w/ stock stuff. I just put 32.5wt all the way around and had to move my rear camber links on the hub carrires to the outside hole(delta airlines broke a stud off in the inside hole). I hope this works at Vineland this weekend. I can always add a bit of camber in need be untill I get new carriers. Familly Hobbies may even stock'm;)

[racer13]

im a new racer in the nitro field, but im looking into getting a xxx-nt sport, i want to race it so im going to get a .12 motor... yet i lack the skills to know the differences.. i only want to spend 150 or less and looking for a p/s, so far.. i've been interested in the O.S .12 CV-X motor, or the Picco .12 side exaust... with the CVEC Pipe, is this Good Or NOT? does any one know the best fuel, setups for my wet clay like track in Washington? (indoor) if you have any suggestions i would highly like to hear them :D thnx alot.

[dkj-M3]

Hey guys, I heard a rumor that there's a spring in the new sport diff. Is there any truth to this?

[rczonexxnt]

I am new to nitro dirt, so I am looking for what you guys do between heats/mains/ races.

What I do is:
inspect all A arm pivots (movement / cracks)
Inspect all balljoints/nuts
pull of the wheels in clean / inspect wheel bearings
Verify diff is still tight
remove and clean the break.

Anything else I should do?

After every race I do a complete tear down of every moving part. I check all hinge pins for flatness, and wear. I only open the tranny if I need to work on the diff.

[rczonexxnt]

I am not new to RC, just new to nitro in dirt. Ive done nitro TC for 5 years, and been running losi cars/trucks since the jrx2 / jrxt.

I am just looking to find out how much people teardown their gas trucks.

[purplerides]

Tarvy - i'm going to start out with M3 holeshots in the rear and silver diretionals up front if the track is moist i might try pink directionals upfront , i'm also going to have a pair of fuzzie "T"'s but i don't think i'll use them.

rczonexxxnt - i pretty much go over the truck as you do looking for cracked suspension parts , check the diff. , and check for loose nuts/bolts , on a weekly basis i change shock oil and clean the entire truck and check every thing moves smoothly , and is tight , during the cleaning is when i inspect everything.

[Paul E. Garcia]

Some follow-up questions:

RCBoy - Pegasus is about 10 minutes from me; but I'm not sure where Sun Valley and Extreme RPM are. Perhaps you could let me know where to find a phone number? Also, what are the specs on the 737 servo?

Purplerides - For the break-in, do you mean that you let the truck idle on the starter box for the first two tanks, or do apply throttle? As far as the body goes, I'll keep the Triton in mind when buying a replacement. As for now, I hate to cut into the bodies I have (esp. the pre-painted and trimmed one), but I don't want to spend another $100 or so for a new exhaust header and cylinder head to avoid trimming the bodies I have. Maybe some aftermarket body mounts (if any) or shock towers might help? If only I had known about the short head and Trinity header two weeks ago...:rolleyes:

General - how useful would it be to get a temp gun (this is my second nitro car, the other is a RS4 Racer with a HPI Nitro Star .12R SC)? If I decide to spend, what is a good model, and how much should I expect to spend?

Also, in regard to the XXX-NT sport RTR, I've seen one and observed the following differences against the kit:

Softer plastic in the arms and shock towers (not sure on the rest)

The front bumper is a rubber strip, not plastic

Tires are a harder compound and different tread.

Has a very nice looking black tuned exhaust and header.

Beefier turnbuckles, shaped more like Lunsfords.

I believe, a painted and trimmed body.

I believe, shielded ball bearings instead of Teflon

All in all, nice stuff reasonably priced (at $329.99) especially for someone who doesn't already have a radio.

Thanks again, guys.

[cabbynate]

The Sport also has a different spring. It is like the AE set up. The part No. is A2910. It might work better than the beveled washers.
We will see.....

[cabbynate]

Forgot to say "Diff Spring".

Sorry.

[Lord Radeon]

Got the latest RCCA, sport details are in it. Assembled, some differences are the softer plastic (although not by much) the chassis isnt 7075, but is still very durable, all bearings are shielded instead of teflon, diff spring in the diff, beefy turnbuckles, all softer parts are labeled "RTR" to tell the difference from normal kit parts. Orange springs all around, Rubber is NOT losi-rubber. But rather some more durable, firmer compound. Step pin-square lugs in rear, 6 rib fronts......... again for an incredible list of $329.99. I might have to buy one for a backup truck... all i can say is wow

[primuswoostinkinhoo]

alright boys, im looking for some traction. im running on a fairly large(1/8 scale is also raced on the same track) blue groove clay track. my current set up is pink springs in the rear orange up front. 35wt up front with 30 in the rear. i run pink taper pins with bomb one foam in the rear and the stock directionals up front. got about neg 2 degrees camber all the way around. ive used square fuzzies and they hook up weel for a few runs but seem to wear down very quickly which im not about shell out money for a new set every weekend. ok so with my set up the car handles good i make the a main every week but i just dont got power out of corners, i lose traction unless totaly easy on the gas. latley i been turning down the throttle curve on my r1. any sugestions on a set up with more traction?
oh and in the rear i have the shocks standing up in the front i have them layed down more.

[Lord Radeon]

take your slipper out 1...2... even 3 turns. Its traction control!

[purplerides]

Paul - i normally just ease on the throttle a little every minute or so to keep somewhat cleared out so it don't stall , and when i start driving it i drive it slow not more then half throttle.

[WHITESTER1]

Originally posted by primuswoostinkinhoo
alright boys, im looking for some traction. im running on a fairly large(1/8 scale is also raced on the same track) blue groove clay track. my current set up is pink springs in the rear orange up front. 35wt up front with 30 in the rear. i run pink taper pins with bomb one foam in the rear and the stock directionals up front. got about neg 2 degrees camber all the way around. ive used square fuzzies and they hook up weel for a few runs but seem to wear down very quickly which im not about shell out money for a new set every weekend. ok so with my set up the car handles good i make the a main every week but i just dont got power out of corners, i lose traction unless totaly easy on the gas. latley i been turning down the throttle curve on my r1. any sugestions on a set up with more traction?
oh and in the rear i have the shocks standing up in the front i have them layed down more.

In my opinion, if you are truly running -2 degrees of camber, in the rear, you are running too much. If you decrease the camber in the rear to -1/2 degree, it will increase side bite, and forward traction. I normally run 0 to -1/2 degree all the way around. Try it, let us know how it works. It should be what you are looking for, giving everything else is fine.

[WHITESTER1]

Can some of you guys that might be "regulars" at CRCRC help me out with a setup? I'm heading down to Columbus this weekend with a brand new truck. I used to drive AE, and since now switching to Losi, I don't know where to start for CRCRC. Thanks alot, in advance.

[purplerides]

primus - also some other things to consider , it sounds as if most of your trouble is coming out of the corners and the truck isn't squaring up fast enough and your trying to go down the straight before truck squares up it's still leaning from the corner , you don't have the complete set-up listed , so i have to assume some thing until then , the stock rear camber links use #2-b try using #2-a , going to the a hole on the hub carrier should make the truck square up quicker , also check your ride height the front level and the rear dogbones level or even try slightly above level , try some different ride heights front and rear you'd be surprised the difference it makes , also as whitester indicated the XXX series vehicles like 0 to 1 deg. camber , i haven't had much luck above 1 1/2 degs.

[racer13]

would the xxx-nt sport be good in racing? thats what i planed on doing... and putting either a picco .12 p/s or a O.S .12 CV-X, but wouldn't it be better for me to just get the adam drake edition with all the graphit and throw a motor in it? just wondering :D !

[purplerides]

Whitester - here's the set-up i run there for the winter champs,
front #56 piston's 30wt oil, orange springs mounted #2 and middle , #2-B camber link no washers under ball stud, 0 deg toe , 1/2 deg. camber, servo front , pink directionals w/bomb 1 inserts,(if track dries out silvers may work better)

rear #56 pistons 27.5wt oil , red springs , mounted #4 middle , #2-A camber link, bones slightly above level, 1/2 deg. camber , pink taper pins w/Trinity TK1523 2stages inserts.

truck was real good and stable no surprises.

[purplerides]

racer - the sport should be a good truck to start , as far as set-up goes you'll probably change it to suite your track/driving style on either truck you decide to get , the suspension pieces on the sport flex a little more the stock pieces but the stock pieces fit right on, the Drake truck is another good choice with graphite this and that but the average driver wouldn't notice the difference between graphite and stock pieces. so you decide, i don't like to tell people how to spend there money either way you'll be happy.

[WHITESTER1]

Thanks purplerides!

[racer13]

Originally posted by purplerides
either way you'll be happy.




Not if it Breaks :D

[purplerides]

primus - also have you tried M3 holeshots , if it's an outdoor track with 1/8th scales many times there's a loose dusting on the track and holeshots get better traction plus they last longer then square fuzzies , also you may want to try silver directionals , if your using the reds they may be biting too much causing the rear end to break loose. what tire combo are the other fast drivers at the track using?

[purplerides]

racer - i understand that, i don't believe the sport is going to break easier then the stock truck or the Drake truck , all off the truck's these days are pretty stout , of course if you hit something hard enough it's going to break that's going to happen no matter what you purchase they do take a pretty good hit though , the reasoning behind the more flexable components on the sport model is to help prevent breakage , so the component will flex some prior to breaking , the stock versions and the Drake versions are more likely to break easier due to the stiffer less forgiving components , but hey will handle slightly better because the components are stiffer and allow the suspension to do the work more precisely without the suspension flexing , but that's the trade off racer's take for a 1/10th a sec. a lap.

[dkj-M3]

Whitester - Try purples set-up 1st if that doesn't work. Use red or orange springs up front same pistons56 oil35 & orange or pink springs for the rear with either 35, 37.5, or 40oil in the rear the track is smooth except for 2 big jumps, the 2nd jump is pretty smooth but the 1st jump eats parts. I'll see you there. If you get a chance, come to the practice Gas/Wed. & Electric/Thurs. I'll be there Wed. too. Good Luck.

[purplerides]

racer - the bottom line is if your an experienced racer/driver you'd probally be happier with the stock or the Drake versions because you chose the electronics and motor combo that suites you and the slightly better handling , if your just getting started and need radio gear, motor , etc. , and are inexperienced the sport model maybe good for you and as you get better and can put the stiffer components to use you can put them on.

[WHITESTER1]

dkj-M3

Hey thanks! I'll look for you... You will see my bright floresent yellow, white and blue trucks. I'm only going to be in town on Saturday and Sunday. Is there a hobby shop close by, if I need some parts? LOL... At the champs there was one inside, but that didn't look permanent. I'm sure I'll be buggin you at the track... LOL!!!
You better watch out! I really stunk up the joint at the Indoor champs, I'm looking for REVENGE!!! At the champs I broke everytime I went on the track.... The stupidest things!!! That was with and old worn AE... I have all brand new Losi trucks now. So look out!!! LOL

[dkj-M3]

http://www.pro-lineracing.com/proline/images/whatsnew/3119new.jpg

[WHITESTER1]

I just picked 1 of those up last week. My lhs has a bunch of them. I don't think I will have it painted by this weekend. I like it alot!!!

[cabbynate]

What do you use to clean your engine parts when you disassemble it? The crown of my piston is looking like it needs cleaning so I may as well clean everything.
Thanks.
Nate:)

[rczonexxnt]

I use a degreaser like simple green to clean everything but the bearings. then I thouroughly dry and rub mobil 1 on all the moving parts, and let them sit overnight. I relube, and assemble.

Some people will probably disagree with me on the degreaser, but when you take apart a auto engine, you bath it in gas to dilute the oil, then you scrub it with a degreaser, like simple green.

I actually use what has been called "asian oragne", its an orange citruis degreaser that you can get at Lowes/ home depot. It comes in a white bottle with a black label, kinda looks like a no frills degreaser, but its not cheap. Its called magic muscle by home oil co in KS.

I was introduced to this product by the military, they clean submarines with it! Something about it not leaving a residue (aparently simple green does?)

I use it 100% (no water down) on engine, and 20% (4 parts water, one solvent) on tires, suspension....

[WHITESTER1]

What is the order of the Losi truck springs? From softest to hardest! Thanks.

[rczonexxnt]

A-5146 2.75" Spring 1.6 Rate (Grey)

A-5147 2.75" Spring 1.8 Rate (White)

A-5148 2.75" Spring 2.0 Rate (Yellow)

A-5150 2.5" Spring 2.3 Rate (Pink)

A-5152 2.5" Spring 2.6 Rate (Red)

A-5154 2.5" Spring 2.9 Rate (Orange)

A-5156 2.5" Spring 3.4 Rate (Silver)

A-5158 2.5" Spring 3.7 Rate (Green)

A-5160 2.5" Spring 4.1 Rate (Blue)

from the losi site. higher spring rate = stiffer spring.

[WHITESTER1]

Thanks... I looked on the site, and didn't find them.

[cabbynate]

Thanks rczonexxnt,

I have lots of simple green so I will have to try it. I'm also going to try to find that stuff at home depot since it is just down the street.

[losifreak2004]

Nate - I use motor spray (the Trinity stuff), a clean tooth brush, and a clean rag to clean all my parts.

Whitester - You can search for any part on the Losi site, but you're right, the spring order is not there.

rczonexxxnt - Good stuff! Keep it up man!

Me and Travis (tarvymoto) made the mag! This issue of RCCA has part of our conversation on the XXX-T forum in it!

Aaron

[primuswoostinkinhoo]

thanks guys
ill try to give a lil less neg camber or whatever its called. most the fast guys at my track are using pink taper pins. but im gonna have to throw my setups out the window as i went to the track today and the bobcat was out, so we stuck around a bit and totaly rebuild the track i think even them crumby stock step pins would work cause the clay is sticky and its not blue grooved its all rough but give it a week it will be back to its nasty self.
ive driven some of the faster guys trucks and i didnt like the way the handled in the corners, my truck when running some drag brake will dive right into corners and i love that. my motor isnt tuned right just yet, i had to put in a new piston and sleeve cause i ran it thro like 10 gallons and it just wore out. but come friday night ill be laying it down hopefully ill finish top 5 i took second in the a last friday but thats cause most guys cant last the 15 min without something happening they get trigger happy or nervous or somehting

[cabbynate]

Thanks for your input Aaron,

How many gallons do you think you should get out of a properly tuned ABC engine running at 220-235 degrees.

[INFERN06]

I have seen up to four gallons go thru one with proper maintanence and good air filter.20% BT.

[Lord Radeon]

cabby, temp really doesnt have a whole lot to do with it. I've put TWO gallons though a .15CV with aftermarket head running at ~245-160 degrees constantly and it runs stronger than ever... and remember this is an ABN piston/sleeve. You can get 5-6 gallons out of an engine if tuned perfectly

[drdirt]

Hey guys; Did anybody get a look at the pipe that comes with the drake xxxnt. We race sunday and I'm still lokkin for a replacement for the stock limited edition pipe. The picco pro looks just like the one I got from tower last year for my st15. Yes, I did buy one but I was SO sorry. It shouldny be counted against me, should it.:p

[kevman009]

i'm, looking at buying a XXX-NT Sport. does anyone have any suggestions on what color i should get?

thanks:)

[racer13]

well YES!!! purple is just to *** looking.. the teal.. well EVERYONE HAS IT! i'd go with that Black or something :D ANd yes! im getting one very soon...

[mblem]

hey, i'm looking to bring out my xxxnt this weekend for the first race of the year at my local track but I have a few questions first...after a long winters break, do I need to re-break in my engine? If so, is the process the same as when breaking in a new engine? How many tanks should I run through it, how rich should I run it? Thanks for any help you can give me!
Michael

[cabbynate]

Well, I sent my CV-R in for service after The inner bearing broke down and killed my engine and Although they said the CV-R was a race engine and had no warranty they sent me a "NEW" engine anyway. I can't say any other engine manufacture would have done that. I guess you can't go wrong with an O.S. Engine.

PS, I still like my Picco though.:)

[lositeamdriver]

nate you going this weekend to the track? well if your not be ready to defind the win next week thats all i got to say....:)

[cabbynate]

Lositeamdriver,

Hmmmmm???? Any ways, I don't think I will be racing this weekend. I have to work. Most of the fast guys are going to the Race Against Cancer.
Next time I race here I might race with the pro guys. I know they will smoke me but it will help me get faster.


I hope???:confused:

[cabbynate]

Has any one went to using a rubber seal front bearing on there O.S. engine? I know my old engine's front bearing leaked so I was thinking of starting out with a rubber sealed bearing on my new engine.

[Nutter]

I havn't had any problem with the stock bearings in my OS CV Hyper.. wouldn't a rubber-sealed bearing melt though?


-Nutter

[cabbynate]

I don't think so. My Picco has one and Trinity offers one to fit O.S. engines too.

[purplerides]

i always used to put a rubber sealed bearing in my CZZ's and CV's when i ran them , i liked them muck better.

mike , glad to see your coming out to race again this year , i was going to E-Mail you to let you know the season was going to start , no you don't have to re-break in your engine , i hope at the end of last year you ran the motor dry of fuel and put some afterrun oil in it , if you forgot the oil you still should be ok , i've even seen guys that don't even get all the fuel out and not have a problem though i don't recommend it , your motor should fire right up and run as it did last year , you may want to put a fresh glow plug in, if you need a hand let me know , i'll see you Sat.

[cabbynate]

Well.I guess I can live with that.

Thanks.

[purplerides]

i almost always get 5 - 6 gals. of fuel through my motors even the abn type. , i think other contributing facters are driving stye and enviroment.

[cabbynate]

Five or six gallons if the engine is tuened right.

I guess I can live with that.

PS, thats better! :D

[DR.GT]

purplerides:

The most I've ever got out of a CZZ or CV was 4 gallons (not over 230*). But I agree with the reasoning on temperature, weather, and environment, and maintanence all being factors in engine performance and life expectancy. I've got a Rossi that has almost 5 gallons thru it (its my backup) but it has only been raced in A Mains of 30 minutes to 1 hr each time after proper breakin and ran between 195-230*. It would still get me thru another 1 hr main if needed even though its a bit tired. The long races definitely put a strain on these engines as compared to short 10-15 minute mains.

[WHITESTER1]

Only 2 more days, till I get to race my brand new XXXNT w/ TR. I am quite excited to run with some of the fastest nitro offroaders.... the place is CRCRC!!! After a long winter of TC racing, I am ready to get dirty, and hit some huge jumps!
All I have to say is... stay outta my way!!! LOL

[dkj-M3]

WHITESTER1 - Is that the new O.S. engine if it is how does it run compared to other engines. I'm getting a new engine and can't decide if I should get the CVR, TR or the Nova CX. See you Sat. I'll be running the stock white & blue rtr body(beat-up) for the qualifiers & practice, & a new triton(blue with a silver body for the main)http://www.blackgoku.com/Knightmare.gif

[WHITESTER1]

dkj-M3,

I ran an OS cvr all last season, and for your Indoor Champs. I liked the cvr. I haven't had any track time with the OS TR. I only have 6 tanks thru the OS TR. So I cannot give an expert opinion about the TR yet. I'm using the Ofna, rear exhaust... I tried the Racers Edge, and didn't like it, for one it leaked, because it didn't come with a rubber seal, and two it extended out further than the Ofna.
I left you a private message at the CRCRC website.

So if I'm pulling you down the straight or out of the corners, then you'll know this weekend if it is a good engine!! LMAO!!!

[rczonexxnt]

Looking for information from those of you who have used these engines.

Two people at my lhs want to put in these OS engines, based on they have read here, but they don't know which ones will fit in the xxxnt. They both want rotary carbs. Which shaft is required?

Also, one of them has a younger brother that doesn't compete, would the .15tr fit in an xxxnt? Would it perform better than the .12? the OS website has very similar performance ratings, and I am not sure why they would sell 2 motors if they did the same thing...

Thanks.

[WHITESTER1]

The long shaft is the one you want. Also I perfer rotary carbs with offroad. They tend to be alittle more forgiving with traction control. Slide carbs make the motors very snappy, with very quick throttle response. Also, I'm not familiar with a .15 TR, there is a new .15 CVR. Is that the engine you are talking about?

.15's as a general rule, have more torque than a .12

[rczonexxnt]

Whistler,
thanks, yes the .15cv, I wasn't paying attention to what I was typing.

Has anyone compared the .15cvr to the .12tr? I wouldn't want someone to by an underperforming engine.

[rczonexxnt]

purplerides,
Which manifold do you use on your OS tr? Is the Associated pipe you use, the rc10gt tuned pitpe?


Looking for pipe/manifolds that work with the os .12 tr

thanks.

[purplerides]

rczone - the manifold i use is Trinity's RC8125 it made for trucks and fits under the stock body without getting close to it , some other manifolds hit the body unless you get the Triton body that's made for rear exhaust , i use the Trinity/Picco pro pipe , it smooths the bottom end and ripps on the top end.

[rczonexxnt]

purplerides - Does the trinity manifold fit on an OS 12tr?

[dkj-M3]

hey WHITESTER1, You may get me on the corners but the straight is mine, because I'm running the 20t clutch bell(Doing all I can do to control this stupid slide carb on my Nova). I'm new to RC racing, this Sat. will be my 3rd race. I won the D-main my 1st time out & placed 3rd in the B-main last week, probably cause we only had 4 heats for Easter, there are usually 6 heats.

Oh yeah, For the CRCRC Gas Champs, Adam Drake told me he ran his set-up from The Dirt Hemet, CA. Red directionals with Losi firm foam and Pink Taper Pins with Trinity
Bomb 1 foam grey). My set-up varies just a little, but his set-up is a perfect starting point. Did you know that regular club races are held in the smaller building next to where they had the Champs, the track is like 25% smaller than what you raced on, but it's still fun. & bring spare parts so I can bum off of you when I break:D The closest hobby shop(Hobby Town) is about 10-15min from the track.

http://www.teamlosi.com/pictures/jpegsetups/xxxNT/xxxnt_thedirt_a.jpg

[brknwheel]

purplerides..... I heard the trinity 8125 header hangs a little low to the ground. Is there truth to that statement?

[Racin Rev]

Buckets!!! I am gone for four days and there are 5 pages to read! The new RTR must have really struck a chord.

[PJCruz]

When trying to set the high end needle on the carb in my NT, is it advisable to lock down the slipper tight.... then once the engine is tuned .. then adjust the slipper a little looser depending on track conditions?

Thanks

Pete

[WHITESTER1]

Dk,
Yup, the smaller building, it's okay the tighter the better. I don't like wide open tracks. Tight technical is my favorite. I ran AE in January. Truck was dialed, kept on breaking. I had some bad luck, and talked all kinds of smack before racing. Was hanging my head leaving that race. I'm ready for both nitro and electric, I'm running both. First race with new trucks. Paint will still be drying until my second lap. I have some spare parts, hopefully we can bum off each other. Arms, and pivot blocks are what I have.

[purplerides]

brknwheel - it does hang down just a tad but not as far as i've seen some others , some of the others were so low that the pipe is at a pretty steep angle up , it did hang a little below the chassis and i bent it a little so now it doesn't , and it's not hitting the ground i checked not a mark on it. i think even without bending it that it wouldn't hit much , because the bottom was just a sliver below the chassis.

[purplerides]

pj - you don't need to tighten down the slipper more then normal , for break in , it should be set so it doesn't slip while driving the vehicle it mainly slips when coming off a jump or on rough tracks when the wheels are constantly bouncing off the ground it's main function is to protect the trans. ,and as a traction control only slightly , it should slip prior to the diff but should be slipping constantly.

[bullett1818]

Anybody hear anything new about the Adam Drake Edition Truck??? I really want it but I think im gonna end up with the RTR Sport. I just cant afford the AD Edition.:( Hey I'll take donations if anyone wants to help me get the Drake Edition???


-Bullett-





lol:D

[drdirt]

mblem; What track will you be running at this weekend? My buddies and I will be at englishtown on sunday.

[racer13]

Im getting a RTR sport Also! i went down to the hobby shop today... only thing i don't like is how the manifold gets lifted up by the pull starter... but other wize, ITS NICE! i was watching a xxx ke damn! it was clearing quad'z No prob! hehe also got the new rc car action :D

[hardcoretmaxx]

how fast would the xxxnt with a o.s .12 cvrx

[racer13]

prolly 40-50

[hardcoretmaxx]

kool man would that thing wheelie easy

[lositeamdriver]

hardcoretmaxx

you dont want wheelies the losi truck is heavyer then the associated gt in the front and the associated pulles wheelies better but it slows you down alot if you want to be fast stay away from the wheelies......:^)

[Nutter]

Yea, and not to mention the truck's made for racing, where wheelies aren't wanted.. to get wheelies you'd have to tighten the slipper clutch and diff more than you should - and that's very bad for the gears and handling.


-Nutter

[racer13]

Nutter is verrrrry smart k? :D

[Nutter]

:confused:

What's up with that comment? I was stating the simple truth that the XXX-NT isn't made for that kind of use/abuse. :rolleyes:


-Nutter

[racer13]

Nutter, i was accually giving you a compliment.. you are accually very smart

[lositeamdriver]

nutter the gt is also made for racing?

[rcboy618]

the xnt's are known for having alot of steering, and the gt's are known for having alot of rear traction... maybe the mugen truck will have both?

[Nutter]

racer: oops, sorry.. thanks :)


-Nutter

[racer13]

np.. im getting a .12 Cv-x motor, used, needs to be tuned.. maybe you can help me !! :D is that a good racing motor?

[Nutter]

racer: sure, I'll try cos I've got a OS .12 CV Hyper in my XXX-NT too (exactly the same as the CV, just has a different head & black case for better heat dissipation).. I'm not a big engine tuner though, cos around here there's nothing that compares to my XXX-NT's speed or power (which is kinda bad actually as it's on a small, tight track & my NT's just way over powered for that.. hehe), so I don't have to worry much about getting the tuning spot-on. :p

For my track, as I said, the CV is definately as good as is needed, although on larger tracks or where there's hotter competition it may be better to go with either a CV-R or TR as these are faster and more powerful (the CV-R goes 20% faster with double the HP of the CV, and the TR is a bit better again).

If you have the instruction manual for your CV, just follow the break-in section and then the tuning section, it's worked great for me. If you don't have the manual, let me know and I'll scan the relevant pages in for you.


-Nutter

[lositeamdriver]

nutter see thats not all true i seen a cv pull a cvr down a 100 foot back stright whats up with that i mean the cv you run them at like 240 and they are faster then cvrs and they are the best os motor made is the cv but you have to run them at like 240 to get the power..

[dkj-M3]

All about tuning for the conditions!

[tarvymoto]

The gas truck field consisted of about 5 heats. There were plenty of "fast guys" present to make things very competitive. Purplerides drove hit OS TR powered NT to the 4th qualifing position in the Main show. Unfortunately he busted a ball stud during the warm up , wich put him out of an A main that he could have one. I'm sure he will be on the podeum plenty this season.

Yours truely had a bit of hard time adjusting to the SLICK track conditions and 40degree weather. Some guys were using Taper Pins up front for Gas truck and 2wd mod. The track was smooth as a baby's butt , the jumps were flawless , and the layout nice and technical. If any of you guys on here ever get a chance to race at Vinland , take advantage of it.
I know I'll make the trip again.
Travis

[Nutter]

Originally posted by tarvymoto
The track was smooth as a baby's butt , the jumps were flawlessawww.. but where's the fun in that? :p Ok, ok.. it isn't fun going down the back straight & hitting a rut that launches you 3 feet into the air, cartwheeling for the next 40 feet.. but hey, it is cool to see..... :p :D
Oh, congrats btw purplerides.. bad luck with the main though.


-Nutter

[tarvymoto]

awww.. but where's the fun in that? :p Ok, ok.. it isn't fun going down the back straight & hitting a rut that launches you 3 feet into the air, cartwheeling for the next 40 feet.. but hey, it is cool to see..... :p :D
Oh, congrats btw purplerides.. bad luck with the main though.


-Nutter [/QUOTE]

There wasn't a rut to be found!!! Just a perfectly sculpted track w/ plenty of nice jumps.:D

[OmegaTrac]

Hey Paul.
I live in the Inland Empire. I race at either Pegasus Hobbies or Extreme RPM. Extreme RPM is located in Grand Terrace, their website is http://www.extremerpmracing.com On their website they have all the info you will need. I was at Pegasus a few weeks ago, and the dirt just sucked. It was terrible, full of little pebbles and everything. I heard that they brought in new dirt, but it just didnt really solve the problem.


--Chris

[igozoom]

Congrats Purple. Sorry you broke prior to the main.

Tarvey, sorry about last weekend. It was probably the nice smooth track with perfect jumps that screwed you up ! hehehe
I had a rough one myself. Made it to the A main again and broke a rear swing arm with four minutes to go. :(

No racing this weekend as all the flashlight drivers
(no offense:D ) are going to be racing Clearwater.

If I don't get down to watch, good luck !

[rc10tc3drivr]

i just put in a mt -12 in my nt good god that engine ripps way to much power for me


does anyone know where i cant get a carb restrictor

[cabbynate]

For that engine Trinity.

[BIG-J]

Hello all,

I'm an old school RC guy (my first car was the MRC Fox) and I've raced until the JRX2 was the hottest thing around.

Anyhow, I've been out of the loop for a while and wanted to start over with a XXX-NT.

Just curious if anyone has any experience with NovaRossi engines? If so, how would you rate the ease to tune compared to the OS. Are they a finicky motor? Can you dial it in, leave it, and just run it?

I have some experience with OS with my airplane and I'm familiar with their reliability and quality.

Thanks for your time.

[hambone]

If you look through the chassis a small circle appears inside the fuel tank, IS that a fuel Filter, and if so that means I shouldn't need to install one in the fuel line right?

What the word? and Thanks!

[purplerides]

rctc3driver - Trinity makes carb. restrictors that fit Picco ,Nova's and RB's ,

RC8115 .170 dia small

RC8116 .180 dia med.

RC8117 .190 dia large

RC8118 set of all three



Tarvymoto - nice meeting you , i think i just got done thawing out...LOL , glad you liked the track maybe next time you can bring some nicer weather with ya...LOL , oh well for me breaking for the A-main i usually only average 1 or 2 DNF's per season so i just got it out of the way early this year ...LOL , see you next time your able to make it down.

[dkj-M3]

I had the picco .12 rotary standard exhaust (came with the RTR) & replaced it with the HPI Evo II slide Nova. I'm a newbie but I learned how to tune an engine. The nova just seems easier to me I've been racing it for 3weeks every Sat. and run it about 3 times a week with varing weather conditions about 40-50* outside & I race indoors about 60-70* Once I broke it in and tuned it I have'nt had to touch the settings, & once it's warmed up it will idle for days & wont cut off(I can barely tell it's on, SMOOTH)I had to tune the picco about every week.
$.02

I've heard that an O.S. is pretty much the most reliable easiest engine to tune, but my Nova is my 2nd engine & with what I learned from my 1st(picco) it doesn't seem like it can get any easier.
http://www.blackgoku.com/Knightmare.gif

[WHITESTER1]

OS engines are widely know for their easy tuning, and reliability. They might not be the most powerful engines on the market, but they are far easier to take care of. It has come to the point that there is now carb adapters for other engines so you can run an OS carb. That should tell ya something right there!

[losifreak2004]

rcboy - The Mugen truck is still quite some time away from production, but it should be fairly closely resembling the Losi truck.

OmegaTrac - You ever make the trip out to Hemet? That's where I'll be this Saturday. I heard Pegasus is really small also.

hambone - There is no fuel filter in the Losi tank. I don't think there's a reason to run a fuel filter unless you run in really dirty conditions where dirt might fall into the tank when refueling, but I've never had a problem.

Purple and Travis - Good racin!

Aaron

[WHITESTER1]

I strongly disagree with no reason for a fuel filter. The only line of protection from dirt to your engine is a fuel filter. Dirt that you can't see can be in the tank, and cause problems for the engine, needles, and settings. You're absoultly crazy if you don't run a fuel filter..... It should be the first "hop-up" you purchase. A small investment of $3.00 saves a $200 dollar engine. You do the math!!!

And if you turn the truck upside down, and look at the round hole in the chassis, you will see a small gold colored filter in the tank. That is to keep large debris out, but not better than an inline fuel filter.

Losifreak, I understand you help alot of people out, but man you are way off on this.

Test.. test..

[hardcoretmaxx]

I agree with WHITESTER1 and I can tell that he is new in nitro or just doesn't know much I wouldn't run my nitro engines with of one

[rcboy618]

aaron-there is a filter in the losi tank. have you been to the svm tra