Duratrax Evader ST Forum v1.0

[Poolboy51]

did you get last in the concourse?:confused: :D :p

Man your lucky. you got the 12 gauge wire! No, I'm serious! I checked my 3 LHS's and my LRS (Local Radio Shack:D ) and nobody has 12 gauge silicon wire:rolleyes: :mad: :( . I'm gonna do some more looking tomorrow. That Kimbrough gift certificate is cool too. Did you have to win a race or something or was it a drawing or what?:confused:

[pudder]

That sucks the nuts. Go to your track and the hobby shop should have some there, or ask another racer. :)

I think I did get last in it, I wanted to also. I say they should have given out a sheet of decals to cover up the ugly body. :D

-mike

[Poolboy51]

I say they should just give you a pre-painted body!:D

[pudder]

I did get some kimbrough decals with my certificate, so I can use them. :)

-mike

[jdm3849]

man, i just got done driving my evader,that was sure fun until....................................i was going full speed with my 17 turn and all of a sudden it stopped in its tracks, i stared at it for a long time,blinking my eyes telling myself "this did not just happen" i could see the left wheel about 2-3 feet away from the crash scene,the battery was hanging out the front along with the esc and reciever, i went over and i saw a busted green pole sticking about 2-3 inches outta the ground here is what i ended up breaking, duratrax is gonna be real happy lol
1.front shock tower
2.front brace
3.bulkhead
4.bumper(new yellow one :( )
5.servo brace
6.front right a-arm
7.front left a-arm
8 front right shock, the plastic thingy on the bottom where the screw goes through


i am so pissed off, i think im gonna buy a new car

[pudder]

Ouch, next time watch for little green poles. I just finishd my weekend race toroment. It was a blast, my truck ran at its tops too, just not the driver. Never had any problems or broke anything, but yesterday I left my radio at home by accident so I had to miss a race.

-mike

[rcjeff]

Sad story

I had just gotten in my parts for my nitro rush and i put them on. I took it outside in the dirt to mess around. I was going about half speed sideways and hit a large rock (2' long, 1' high, 1' across) and bend the damn turnbuckles. From there, i had a steering gear cracked (in the servo) and bent turnbuckles. I decided to get a high torqe servo and Ti turnbuckles. Well im done blabbing.

From what it looks like, the evader isnt too strong. Any thoughts?

[Green-Evader-ST]

RCJEFF,

I've got 2 Evaders. I did have some breakage, which Duratrax said was due to some parts that missed a hydrating process. Since I got the warranty replacement parts, I've not had any trouble other than from some serious thrashing.

Both trucks have been strong for what we use them for, back yard bashing. Yesterday I had plenty of roll overs, a few nose dives and plenty of banging into wood 6x8's. Both trucks took it all and nothing broke.

This has been my experience, others have had worse or better.

[pudder]

No problems here. :D I just got some parts in too!

-mike

[nascarfreak88]

well me friend just got his evader today!!! yup, he just went home to order parts!:mad: :mad: we're out in my garage, he was running his Evader, i was running my RS4 MT. Well we hit a few times, theres not enough room in there, or traction, to get any speed. well just as the 1st packs were wearing down we both did a little powerslide type thing into each other, not going to fast and it ended with his left rear wheel rolling under a shelf. well at 1st i just thought his lug-nut just came off untill i seen the drive shaft too.........:( looked at the truck and the rear left hub carrier was busted...:( :mad: well we took it to my room for some good 'ol fixen of CA glue. it runs now, but its not going to take must. BUMMER!!!!! well i have to get parts for my RS4 too so hoppefully we'll get around the same time and be able to drive out side when it warms up. 10min of running and broke already, i cant beleve that........:( :mad: :(

[pudder]

Woo Hoo, I got my new servo arm, now it steers like new! That should greatly inclrease my laptimes.

-mike

[Poolboy51]

You can't steer as sharp as it did new. It happened after I had to rebuild the steering linkages.:confused:

[pudder]

Sure it does, maybe you set it up different, but I am pretty sure it is steering like new. I was using a Jr servo and servo arm, but I had to find a Futaba one to rebuild that works because the Evader needs Futaba styale for the stock arm.

-mike

[Poolboy51]

So I should buy a hi-tork servo?:confused:

[2nd Gear]

Originally posted by Poolboy51
So I should buy a hi-tork servo?:confused:
Only if you want to if you race then yes!I used and lovedthe hitec 605BB,I got the metal gears for it but they offer a 615 i think which is Ball bearinged and metal geared.

[rcjeff]

Whats your guys' highest jumps?

Also, How can you prove the durability of it? (what kind of damage have you done to it)

[pudder]

WellI did some 4 foot high jumps slamming into stuff in the air which cracked my gearbox case, I don't blame it. I have broken a servo arm, and rear chassis plates. Well of course 2 TC's hit me full speed in the rear end. :rolleyes: I broke a front hub carrier arm (again a TC's fault). Otherthan those things, It has been an excellent truck. I have stripped out some servos, but when I got a JR one it lasted, but now I have to put back in a Futaba I should be getting in a spare soon anyways.

Poolboy-you said you rebuilt part of the steering, well maybe you put a ballstud in a different hole than supposed to be because I switched servos in it a couple times with the stock steering and it stayed the same, only when I changed the arm did the travel change.

-mike

[pudder]

BTW: I got a spare of suspension arms, and they look like carbon fibre or some different type of plastic, and just by hand, I can't really flex them. :confused:

-mike

[Green-Evader-ST]

The biggest i've jumped mine was at a skate park cement 1/4 pipe. I was getting 4-5 feet of air. The truck would go pretty much straight up and then level out and land on all fours at a full stop. Needless to say the suspension can't take that high of a drop and so it bottomed out each time. The result was that the bulkhead had a hairline crack where the right front suspension arm connects. And the chassis had 2 - 3/8" long cracks out of the corners where the battery tray opens out the back. I think these could be CA'd and then reinforced with some strip's of graphite and would last a good long time. (that's what i plan to do and keep if as a back-up). Other than that, the front bumper chipped off a piece and the front body mount cracked when i landed upside down on the nose.

I don't think this damage speaks negatively of the Evader, I was thrashing on it pretty hard, got a bit carried away with the fun of seeing it jump so high!!:D :)
I don't believe that another stadium truck could take the same abuse without having some damage. Now my Bro's T-Maxx did fine, but it can take the higher fall...

[rcjeff]

Things are breaking at 5' jumps? OMG. How much different is the durability of gas and electric? I jumped 15' and landed upside down, cartwheeled and flipped several times with me rush. Didnt do any damage. WAIT, TAKE THAT BACK. I DID do some damage. THE SCREW ON THE ROLL BAR LOOSENED! WHOOPS.
(I dont mean to brag, but omg.)

Its not like im thrashing the Evader, im getting one. Is the durability pretty bad on ALL electrics?

Well also, If i took a sheet of aluminum and cut it to shape witht eh chassis and just screwed it into the chassis, would that fix the chassis snapping problem?

WAIT WAIT WAIT A MINUTE. ARE YOU SAYING THE JUMP IS 4 FEET HIGH OR YOUR GETTING 4 FEET AIR? CAUSE THAT WILL MAKE A big DIFFERENCE.

Ok, im done bitching.

YOU KNOW WHATS REALLLLLY PATHETIC? I sent a email to Hpi (the company i bought my car from) 2 weeks ago. I sent an email to Duratrax ( who i dont own a vehicle from ) about 4 DAYS ago. The pathetic thing is, i got both emails last night, within a hour from each other.

[pudder]

I finally broke a bulkhead today from a good hard jump in -20 weather, I am surprised it took long since it had "defective" plastic. No other problems other then spinning out. :D

-mike

[gabesnmt]

Hi, I am new to this forum, my friend just bought a Evader and he was asking me what type of motor and esc to buy right away to make it really fast, but I don't know much about electric rc so what do you think? Our LHS said a speed gems but what type?

[pudder]

Well if you wanted a stock motor, I would keep the stock ESC, it has been great for me. A Trinity P2K 2 Pro i an awsome stock motor, but for mod, get something like a speed Gems, I am not good with mods, but maybe something like 17 turns? and a Novak ESC?

-mike

[2nd Gear]

Ive been told on other forums that the stock esc can handle the 19 turn speed gems motor.I also was to that this motor in the truck is like night and day comepared to the sorry stock motor.It is supposedly twice as fast.And on top of all things you keep the stock gearing too.So tell your friend to just get the 19turn and call it a day.Plus the tranny cant handle a ton of power.19 turn will give you alot of speed and a good run time.

[Fliquer]

So if I just latch on the p2k2pro and put in some toothier gears, im done? Would the evader stock esc handle that motor? What about receiver and batteries?

This is the first time ive installed a new motor on an rc. I was never really into modding or racing.

[pudder]

Yes the ESC will handle a P2k 2 motor, it is a 27 turn stock motor, it is more turns than the Photon 20 turn. I noticed a big difference, it was a much better motor then the Photon, and also legal for racing where I race, I kinda had to cover up I was racing a 20t mod for 3 weeks. :rolleyes:

-mike

[rcjeff]

Wouldnt the 27t slow you down more than the 20t?

[RS4]

yeah i finally got my evader about a week ago. it sucked though, i was running it in my street and was jumping it off these little snow piles that were against the curb. unfortunately, i had it going close to full speed and i missed my makeshift jump and hit the curb head on. the truck made it up the curb, but not in one piece :mad: :mad: . i broke a front a arm, skidplate, chassis, and the thing where the front body clips hold on to. but the nice thing was i got a package with my parts in the mail (at least the first ones, still waiting for the chassis) 4 days after i placed my order online :D

[Poolboy51]

sorry.

[2nd Gear]

Hey you guys go here www.racers-edge.com and order up a front aluminum brace for the xxt it is cheap and you will be amazed by how much stronger your truck will be.It is only 7 bucks.Go to products then aluminum accessory's and the losi products.Half of the reason why the truck is so weak is because the front hinge pin brace is plastic and when you hit something the front brace breaks then it is a chain reaction to the rest of the front end to blow apart.Im not saying that this will make it a super evader and it wont never break but it will last thru those dum wrecks that you dont think it should of broke but it did.

[rcjeff]

How does an evader compare to a t3 sport w/ bearings?

[jdm3849]

the evader is better for the price, but the t3 wont break as much and USUALLY the associated has better parts support, but its boring if everyone has the same thing so why not be different and get an evader

[pudder]

It will hold up good to a T3. :)

-mike

[Poolboy51]

Like Chris Chianelli says..........."Life is to short to be a sheep"

I'm waiting to see an Evader at the stock NAT'S or maybe the mod. Nat's
:cool: :D

[Poolboy51]

Oh yeah, I installed my G-10 pro and Deans plugs in my car.:cool: :cool: :D We also got a dremel!:cool: :D

[pudder]

I doubt there will be one at the nats, DuraTrax doesn't even have a race team, if they did, I'm sure the Axis buggy would be in.

It would be cool to see one there though. :)

I broke another servo arm, probably because I hit the side of my house at almost full speed and it was like -25 outside. :D I just popped a spare I had around, not for the Evader but works just as good. :) I also ripped it down to the chassis to clean it, and now it looks almost new. :)

Racing tomorrow!

-mike

[Poolboy51]

You don't have to be on a "team" to race there do u? There was like some 7-year old @ the stock nats.:eek:

[pudder]

Good point. I wouldn't call him a freak though, I'm sure he was a good driver, I know there are some good drivers that are young at my track.

You just never know.

-mike

[Poolboy51]

Excuse me?;) :p j/k:D

[Poolboy51]

Oh yeah! Does it matter what way you put the battery in? I put it in facing the padding. will this chew away my wire faster?:confused:

[pudder]

I think it would chew away faster on the plastic front. I had to make a different foam pad because I use packs that were made by hand, and the stock one is too firm and big. I also have the wire facing the padding, I have to for some batts.

Today at racing, I'm not going to forget my radio again. :D

Wish me luck!

-mike

[2nd Gear]

Originally posted by pudder


I broke another servo arm, probably because I hit the side of my house at almost full speed and it was like -25 outside. :D I just popped a spare I had around, not for the Evader but works just as good.

-mike

I dont get why people think just because a part is from a diff manufacturer that it isnt ok to use on thier car even though it wasnt made for it.I took off the stock POS duratrax servo horn for a associated piece."hint to ones self" "If part keeps breaking try something else" Whence the Associated horn is way better never had one break.:D :confused: :p

[pudder]

Well now I have a cheepo one that came with a radio, and it has worked great! :D

I sucked at racing, bad marshalling missed lots of laps and had a bad setup.

-mike

[rcjeff]

Awww, thats gotta suck.

[pudder]

I got the setup worked out by the second race, but I guess my skills werent there, lunchtime I was good, but then third race sucked, I missed my lap and stopped for one of the marshals to put me through, but he didnt hear me say that and looked at my truck for about 5 laps or so and then finally put it through. So to say I think I still got second last there. The main I got last, my body came off and losi about 7 laps from people looking for some clips, my mom just got in and went and grabbed some. Thanks mom! :D I had a good time though.

-mike

[offroader]

WOW...I FINALLY got my replacement parts from Duratrax!!! Not sure exactly how long it's been since I ordered them, I'm sure I posted it on this thread somewhere but I don't feel like going back through 13 or 14 pages to find it...but I'm sure it's been almost 2 months now.

Anyways, just thought I would update everyone...I'll have it out at the track on Wed for some racing and hopefully the new parts will be alittle stronger!

Paul

[pudder]

Man, I wonder why it took so long. It takes like a week and half for the parts to get to me. One guy at my track said he got like 9 bags from them of parts, and they gave him an email saying they wll need proof next time. :D

-mike

[nascarfreak88]

what he has to send in the broken parts??? just keep all the parts you have ever broken and send them in :D

[pudder]

They say he has to send them in now. :D

-mike

[Green-Evader-ST]

I just got 3 of the parts I ordered on 2/14/02. Took a while but I'd done some CA fixes to keep me going.


I also just rebuilt my Diff in one of my Evaders, and it's much much smoother now. Going to try my hand at painting a body now.

[offroader]

Originally posted by Green-Evader-ST
...Going to try my hand at painting a body now.

If you ask me thats one of the best parts...I've only painted a couple but I love it. I accually put one of them on Ebay just to see what would happen and I sold it for $32.50US (thats about $52CND).:D :D

Have fun and make sure you post some pics for us.

Paul

[Green-Evader-ST]

Thanks Offroader, I think it will be a blast. I've got a Gravedigger body to do for my Brother.

I know this has been posted, but i was looking for a body that will pretty much mate to the Evader. Can someone tell me one they've had success with?

Thanks!

[2nd Gear]

Originally posted by Green-Evader-ST
Thanks Offroader, I think it will be a blast. I've got a Gravedigger body to do for my Brother.

I know this has been posted, but i was looking for a body that will pretty much mate to the Evader. Can someone tell me one they've had success with?

Thanks!
The Losi XXXt or XXt bodies fit,But I must say the Matt Francis looks killer!!!!!Oh this one definately fits the evader!!:D

[pudder]

Evader

-mike

[trxstr1961]

I was running the truck two days ago, and went off a small jump my friend made, guess what?? landed nose first..."snap" went the battery hold down .... :(week before that, i broke the rear chassis plate and front body mount...:( over all i like the truck though:)

[jdm3849]

when i accelerate really hard with my 17 turn sapphire and 19/88 there is a noise coming from around the gearbox that makes a grinding/squeeling noise, i think its the slipper, but if i tighten it all the way it still makes the noise but not as easily how do i fix it? it sounds just like someones t3 with a ti 11 turn at my track and he says its the slipper loosening?

[pudder]

Mine does that sometimes with a p2k 2 in it. It is the ball differential slipping, and it makes that grinding sound, you want to have your slipper loosened so it does slip for about a foot or two from a standstill on a high traction surface. Tighten up the ball diff, but make sure it is not too tight or your handling will be affected. The slipper just sounds like your motor going, not like "grinding".

-mike

[offroader]

Well after replacing all my broken parts, I finally got my truck out to the track last night and it was pretty good. NOTHING BROKE!!

I noticed though that the steering wasn't all that great, it didn't seem to turn very sharp. Is that normal or is there something I should be looking to adjust?

Paul

[jdm3849]

maybe the dual rate steering piece got spun the way to have less steering, the piece that is on the top left next to the antenna, you probobly already knew about that but just trying to help

[jdm3849]

also which allen driver should i use? do i tighten it all the way and then loosen 1/8 of a turn? i read that somewhere

[pudder]

The servo saver shouldn't effect how far your truck turns, just the response. Look on your servo horn, ballstud should be on the top hole, as with any servo horn on this truck to get max turning. Try to see what it could be.

-mike

[2nd Gear]

If your servo saver is too loose it will limit how far your wheels turn.You go to full lock and the wheels went to like 1 o'clock?If thats about what it sounds like it is either that or the dual rate.

[pudder]

I know when I put my JR servo in there was a shorter servo horn, and thus less steering. I recently put a Futaba one in and a long servo horn and now have awsome steering.

-mike

[dirvine1]

Has any one had success using another transmisson from another maker Losi, AE ect...My daughter has been racing this truck for two months with good results have dialed it to the track for her and she just drives it (11 yrs old ) been beating alot of older racers....... and I carry alot of parts at least 2-3 of every part made....but this trans is weak for racing and would rather update it ans switch out than rebuild every three weeks........of course slipper adjusted and so on just weaker than normal gears.....I can go 6 months with my T3 and still looks fresh inside...any help out there ?????????

Doug

[ameittunen]

I got my parts awhile ago but just a few days ago i received another batch that i ordered but this time it said that i owed $36 or something like that so i called them and they said just keep them i they will clear my account. So that means i have an extra bulkhead, chassis, rear chassis plate, a-arms, and front body mounts. It was like 40 degrees so i drove my truck out in my driveway, it was prety fun i liked riding wheeleis, i would put it up so it rests on the motor gaurd and then go forward and it would ride on the motor guard for a long while.

[gabesnmt]

Hi, this has probably already been discused but what motor would be best for this truck? Mod or stock doesn't matter, if it will need a better ESC, which one of those? It is for my friends truck and he wants to be able to at liest run with our nitro trucks a little.

[offroader]

Well the last few days here have been really nice wether so today I decided to take my Evader outside and do alittle bit of bashing around with it. It's the first time I've had a good run with it outside(I've been using it at our indoor track) and I must say it preformed pretty good. I was hitting some pretty good dirt jumps and it was doing some major tumbling and rolling and everything seems to have survived!!

One question though...you know how the Antenna is kinda long(longer then the Antenna tube is) and it says in the mannual "DO NOT CUT THE ANTENNA WIRE!!!"...what happens if you do? I didn't "cut" mine but the excess wire must have been torn off when the truck flipped because there is no excess Antenna anymore. Will this do anything to the performance of my truck? And if so what can I do about it?

Thanks
Paul

[ameittunen]

It will decrease your range by alot. You can open up the receiver box and re-solder a new wire on that is as long as the other one. You could probably get some wire at a harware store or something like that. It happened to me to except the antenna tube broke and it cut the antenna right in half, so i lodered it back together for now. Hope that helps.

[ameittunen]

What are some good tires for the the evader? I want something that will hokup good on tar and loose dirt. I was driving my evader today cuz it was like 45 degreed out. It was pretty fun in the dirt, but my truck is all muddy so i will have to clean it off i gues and clean out the motor with spray to get the water and mud out. I am using my stock motor instead of my mod motor for bashing in my alley cuz it is wet and kinda muddy. Everything on the inside is high and dry so it is in good shape. I think the rear inside bearing on left on my truck is leaking grease, cuz when i took the wheel off, there was alot of greas so i took the axle out and the bearings out and that bearing had alot of grease on it. Do u guys think it will be ok for awhile? I also keep on chipping my rims up on the edges from landing sideways. Is anayone else having that problem?

[rc_x]

I just got my evader today. I think it's really nice, considering the price I paid for it. Its my first offroad vehicle, I've owned a few onroad touring cars. I noticed a lot of people were breaking stuff, earlier in this thread. I guess my evader doesn't have bad plastic :cool: .. Anyway, it was really fun to drive although the photon speed motor is pretty weak. Time for an upgrade ;).

Peace,
rc x

[gabesnmt]

Talking about mod motors, I asked this yesterday but what would be a really good one?

[rc_x]

gabesnmt - Depends on your budget.. I'm also not really into mod. motors and such, but I would probably suggest if you were on a tight budget a Speed Gems Motor? I dunno for sure, maybe someone else can help you better.

[jdm3849]

if he wants to keep up with you guys he should get a 15 turn speed gems but if he wants to pass you he should get a 11 turn, he will need a good esc for both and some good batteries. a good motor for the stock esc would be a 17 turn speed gems, it works good with the stock esc but geats a little warn, the evader would go about 32 with the 17 turn btw

[offroader]

Would the Trinity P2K 2 Motor work on the Evader without having to switch the esc or anything else?

[jdm3849]

yes it will work good, the esc reprograms itself everytime you turn it on so dont worry about that

[jdm3849]

well you might want to get a bigger pinion if you want more speed, a 21 tooth works great they are only 4$ us for a robinson racing one that is very quiet

[offroader]

Cool thanks jdm :D :D

[rc_x]

finally broke something.. Kinda sucks 2nd day I had it and pretty much totaled the front end, everything from the servo and on is broken, I ordered my replacement parts today, basicly everything they offered for any parts in the front is what I needed.. Anyway, this really sucks. Gonna go clean up my disassembly mess now.

[jdm3849]

i know what you mean thats happened to me twice:mad:

[topkart23]

if i were to get the Trinity Speed Gem 2 Quartz 19T Double Motor, could i just put a 20 or 21 tooth pinion on so i dont fry the stock esc?

[jdm3849]

the bigger number the pinion the more likely your going to fry the esc, i have used a 17 turn sapphire and it works good with the esc, btw i have a 19 tooth pinion and stock spur

[topkart23]

ahhh, what was i thinking thinking that the bigger the spur the slower it would be.

doesnt it come with a 18t? so wouldnt you want to go lower?

[jdm3849]

yes it does come with a 18t, dont worry it'll be fine with that motor,esc,gearing and if anything gear up

[topkart23]

alright, thanks a lot

[jdm3849]

no problem;) youll have lots of fun with your evader

btw, what battery and charger do you have? just wondering

[topkart23]

i have pirinah 1500s with the intellipeak charger. ive actually had my evader since december, i am just now buying some hop ups for it

[jdm3849]

the 54.99$ one? thats a pretty nice charger, ive had mine since mid october and just yesterday got a peak charger lol, i couldnt wait to upgrade mine so i got motor,rims,tire,esc,aluminum braces,colored plastic pretty much right away

[topkart23]

yup, the $54 one, it is very nice. i was amazed how small it was when i got it.
i just got the evader to play around with when my nitro sport is broken so i dont put too much money into it. next i will probably get the Peak Performance Power-Maxx 2400mAh (http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p.pgm?Q=1&I=LXBBD3&P=7) .


broken parts so far:
chassis
front shock tower
front bulk head
front bumper
front body mount (twice)
stearing bell crank
front brace
cracked 2 or 3 rims

i think thats all :p

[jdm3849]

i know someone with your charger and when they charge 2400 they have to put a fan on it cause it gets hot, those batterys are supposed to be a good deal but alot of people say the orion rocket packs are better, btw they are 17.99 a piece

[topkart23]

ill have to check them out. do u know where i could get them?

[jdm3849]

i cant find where you can buy them but here's a thread

http://www.radiocontrolzone.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=72142&highlight=minneapolis

[gabesnmt]

So a 17-19 turn speed gems or a P2K2 w/ the stock ESC but what gearing? Or a 11-15 turn speed gems w/ a compatable ESC, and what gearing? Thanks for all the help. BTW he bought a Orion Rush 13t double w/ a 13t+ ESC for that truck would that be any good.

O yeah, what battery would be best? he has Tower 1500 and Piranah 1500 sport packs now.

[jdm3849]

p2k=21 pinion
17turn=19 pinion
19turn=19 or 20 pinion
11=13 or 14 pinion
15=17 or 18 pinion

i wouldnt go down to the limit on the esc maybe stay 1 or 2 turns above the limit. is that esc the futaba mc330cr? with a 13 turn he will be able to pass you nitro guys

[jdm3849]

maxx paxx 1900 for 44.99 for a pair it might be spendy for all this stuff right away but it will be worth it in the long run

[gabesnmt]

Thanks for the info, I don't know what ESC but I'll ask him.

[jdm3849]

a good esc that is 54.99 is the duratrax streak, it has a 12 turn limit but no reverse YA, no problem

[pudder]

I love my Evader, it is awsome, I never broke anything on weekend even though I went into a wall full speed about 4 times and a few head ons!

P2k 2 Pro is an awsome motor! ;)

-mike

[ameittunen]

I really like my evader too. After i replaced the broken parts on it, it seems to be great. I am runningit now with the stock motor cuz it is alittle muddy and watery out so i dont wreck my other motor. Does anybody know some good tires to put on the evader for tar and looses gravel or dirt?

[rc_x]

I got a question for all the Evader owners.. I bought the RTR Evader and I was kinda curious when I opened the box and such the controller throttle was reversed. And when I switched it to normal the car went in reverse when I wanted to go foward. I tried to reset the ESC but that didn't help at all. Does it matter? Or is it supposed to be like that? Thanks for the help.

[CougarTL01]

You know, I never even noticed that the switch was reversed, until I had to use my ESC from the Evader in another car for glitch testing. I installed Dean's plugs on the ESC, so I thought I had soldered them backwards. But, I guess now I know it's not me.

Honestly, I don't think it'll matter, but eventually, I'll be soldering them the right way. (Either that, or I'm going to buy another ESC so I can use a hotter motor)

[pudder]

RC_X-that is weird dude, If i could think straight I would probably know what is wrong with it. Try soldering the motor wires the other way on. Make sure that the wires are NOT on the tabs the capacitors are on otherwise it won't go and will be like a short out luckily the esc has protection for that and it will just heat up and not move.

-mike

[rc_x]

Yeah I thought it was wierd too. I guess it could just be the motor wires were soldered on backwards or something... I'll try and mess with it when I get my replacement parts from Duratrax. :)

Thanks for the help guys.

[CougarTL01]

It is weird... but I checked out my RTR Evader, my bro's RTR Evader, and both of my neighbor's RTR Evaders and they're ALL like that. I don't think it's hurting anything though...

[jdm3849]

man the evader is selling like crazy i guess, all them people have an evader? thats crazy

[offroader]

think I'm getting pretty close to giving up on my Evader. I took it to the track last night for practice and during my first run with my first battery of the night, my right front tire slightly caught the side of one of the barriers coming out of a turn. I wasn't going too fast and didn't even hit the barrier solid, just my right front tire caught...the truck did a spin but seemed fine...untill the next turn. When I came around the next turn the front end fell to the ground :eek: :eek:

From clipping a barrier with one of my front tires I broke the Front Shock Tower(again) right above where it attaches to the bulk head and also for the second time a Front Hub Carrier!!

I'm starting to get very frustrated. I don't the fact that everytime I take my truck out my first thought when I hit something or another truck hits me is "I wonder what I broke this time".

I'm wondering if I'd be better off with something like an Associated RC10T3 or something like that.

Paul :( :(

[pudder]

Too bad to see you backing down. The RC10 T3 is a great truck too. If you are going to get one, get a better version like the Factory Team because it has a whole bunch of hop-ups on it already.

My Evader never seemed to break on the weekend from whatever I did to it, hit walls full speed ect...

-mike

[offroader]

I don't want to...and to be honest I can't really afford to either. I'm just really frustrated and alittle disapointed!

I want a truck that I can take out to our track AND/OR take it out in the back to just have some fun with, without being afraid it's going to break if I bump into anything. And everytime I even think about taking my Evader out the first thing I say to myself is "should I even bother?".

:mad: :( :mad: :(

[rc_x]

The Evader isn't the strongest ST ever or anything (obviously). My Evader would still be running right now if that cement block hadn't popped up outta no where when I was going full speed... The RC10T3 is a great truck, but its a little too pricey for me. Almost every r/c car is.. Lol, kinda sucks but thats how it is for me a small budget.

Offroader, sorry to hear about your Evader breakin on the first batt. at your track.. That must suck.

I do think the Evader stress-tech parts are way to weak though.. I was thinkin about just getting a Traxxas Bandit and loading my electronics from my M01 into it so I can have something somewhat strong to bash around with so I don't total my Evader a day after I get the parts in... Oh yeah, I've had my M01 for 2 years and never broke a part :D now thats some strong plastic. Maybe Tamiya should make Duratraxs' plastic parts :p.

[pudder]

I agree with RC_X. The Evader would be a lot better with better plastic parts, that is probably why Tamiya cost a bit more. DuraTrax really needs to improve the quality of their plastic because it will break fairly easily. I like my truck and haven';t broken anything in a while but still, everyone else is.

Tell yo uguys what, if we get a whole bunch of replies to go against the current plastic and get some better plastic on from now on, I will take the good posts out of that and email it straight to Jeff Nosinger.

Now let me see your posts. :)

-mike

[jdm3849]

the main parts that hold the car together like the bulkhead,arms, and chassis should be made of the plastic that is on rustlers and bandit's, that plastic is the strongest stuff i have came upon, it makes it a bit stronger when the plastc gives or flexes but this plastic has way too much flex, its doing more harm than good i think

[gabesnmt]

OK, what is lol? I've been wondering.

[pudder]

Laugh out loud, you say it when something is funny.

-mike

[offroader]

lol

[pudder]

Take this for example, I would say LOL after I saw this if someone else posted it if I thought it was funny.

-mike

[rc_x]

lmao @ why hedge hogs are becoming extinct... :D Thats some funny stuff...

[rc_x]

btw, some other stuff for the guy who didn't know what lol meant.

lmao = laughing my *** off
rotflol = rolling on the floor laughing out loud
btw = by the way
omg = oh my god
byob = bring your on bed [seen that on some stupid tv infomercial.. lol :cool:]

Just some stuff I was thinkin about, theres more too but not too appropriate here.

[offroader]

You know what I hate the most about replacing parts...Those stupid littel E Clip things...they are such a pain in the A$$!!:mad: :mad:

[rc_x]

offroader - man I completely agree with you about the e clips, I hate those so much.

Back to the plastic issue:

Anyway, yeah I also agree with jdm3849 about the bulkhead, arms, and chassis. The plastic is way to weak and it would be really nice if Duratrax actually made harder, more durable parts. Like Traxxas or Tamiya.

Still waiting for my replacement parts :(.. It just started getting warmer here too, and with my luck it will probably snow when they arrive. :rolleyes:

[offroader]

I have a question for you guys that know a bit about this hobby...

Is $189.95 a good price for a brand new in the box Team Associated RC10T3 RTR Truck (7010)??

Thanks

[pudder]

Yes.

-mike

[offroader]

and is it a good truck?

[pudder]

Ya, but if you have the money, get a better version, the team one because it has ball bearings and MIP CVD's.

-mike

[RS4]

my evader has broke sooo many times, it is annoying me too.

so far i broke:

chassis
front a-arms
gear cover
front bumper
the thing that the battery bar clips onto
rear bulkhead
servo arm

i have drove through about 10-12 packs so far

i guess a few of them have been dumb things i have done while driving, but some of that stuff just should not have broke. the first 4 times i drove it, some thing broke. i broke the a-arm by clipping an empty 3lb flower pot going about 5 mph!! that kinda made me mad :mad: :mad:

i am hoping i have better luck, i like driving the evader

[rc_x]

Woo I finally got my replacement parts! :D. Still can't drive my truck yet though because I need to order a shock parts set from Tower Hobbies ($2.69) :mad:, because I broke a plastic ball end off one of my front shocks and duratrax won't replace that part because it isn't under the stress-tech 1 year guarantee. I think thats pretty stupid, I need one little part that probably costs $0.50 to make and I gotta pay like $9 just to get it. O'well atleast I got all the other parts in like 4 days :). Duratrax has excellent customer support. I ordered like 9 items at once and had no problem, although it says if you order more than 6 they will send you some kind of e-mail reminder.

btw: is the DuraTrax Piranha Peak Charger any good? My current charger is a piece of crap. I was just curious because it seems like a good charger for my budget and what packs I will be running.

[jdm3849]

rc-x , thats a pretty good charger for the money, i have the dynamite vision peak for 40 dollars U.S and it charges 2400 good you will like it more because you can monitor the charge status and it has jaks for a voltmeter. it also has 2 or 4 amp rates

i went to the track on friday for my first time to practice and i loved it! i could clear the jumps with my 17 turn, but it was pretty hard, i think i want a new servo because i would have to almost come to a complete stop to get around the corner, i raced a hot girl with a stampede and she beat me, i also saw a kid with a rustler and his GM3 started on fire, some racers came over and asked him if he ever cleaned his motor and he said he did ONCE lol i landed on the motor guard which broke my back plate and moved my motor which stripped my spur but i took out my hobby knife and took away the worn plastic, i have seen people snap chassis on that jump so its not my trucks fault i also landed upside down on that jump and i broke the front body mount, but i have 2 spare body mounts and some CA glue fixed the backplate

im gonna get a f1 super reverse too hehe

[RS4]

jdm3849, where do you race? i live close to you. and do you know of any places that carry duratrax in the twin cities?

oh, has anyone else broke the front body mount a lot? i break taht thing all the time, it is annoying!!

[topkart23]

i break it too, when ever i break something it always happens to break even though it doesnt get hit :confused:

[jdm3849]

Originally posted by RS4
jdm3849, where do you race? i live close to you. and do you know of any places that carry duratrax in the twin cities?

oh, has anyone else broke the front body mount a lot? i break taht thing all the time, it is annoying!!

thats my third body mount, i go to a track in brooklyn park it is www.twincityhobby.com i live in robbinsdale which is a suburb of minneapolis

[pudder]

My truck was dialed today, I made it to the a mains and seemed to be great, but did manage to break the rest of my front body mount off in a full speed headon with my friend's T3. I still haven't really broken nothing much lately. Evader still great truck, I want XXXT MF next though...

What is really bulletproof, my customized Kyosho Outrage truck, that thing will take just what the Evader can't, I tell ya whut! :) I drove it into walls of buildings at my yard today about 5 times guess what, no damage at all besides the electronics moved.

-mike

[jdm3849]

I think Duratrax should make a new touring car called "street force EP" they did a pretty good job on making the evader so i think they would do good on a TC, and the TC wouldnt have to be as strong as the evader cause its on road and they have big bumpers to stop them



just a thought

[rc_x]

I was driving my M-01 today because my Evader is still, unfortunately unable to be used. My M-01 is has a stock chassis and I was taking jumps off of sidewalks with it today :D. I was getting atleast a foot or two of air, it was pretty cool. I rolled it atleast 7 times during the 2 packs I ran through it. Didn't break anything either. :)

But yeah a Street Force EP would be awesome. I'm also gonna attempt to race my Evader if I can get the one part I still need. I haven't broken a body mount (yet).

But I've broke the following:

Servo Brace
Front Bulkhead
Front Brace
Front Bumper (Broke into 5 pieces)
Front Shock Tower
Front Suspension Arm (Left)

I've mostly broke stuff in the front, as you can tell, I'm thinking about making a custom foam bumper for my Evader to help prevent/stop energy transfer when I hit something.

[offroader]

I've broken...

- 2 front body mounts
- 2 front bulk heads
- 1 front shock tower
- 1 front bumper
- 2 front hub carriers
- 2 front braces

All of this has broken on our indoor track, and to be honest there hasn't really been any major crashes.

I was thinking of trying to come up with some kind of foam front bumper as well to try and stop all this breakage that is going on.

[topkart23]

ive broke:

front bumper
2 front body mounts
front shock tower
front bulk head
front brace
the cross brace
stearing nuckle
chassis

think that is it

[RS4]

you can add a front bulkhead, hinge pin brace, gear case, and ANOTHER front body mount to the list:rolleyes:

this truck is kinda getin on my nerves, but i suppose any stadium truck will break off of the jumps i have been making. i flip it a few times a pack when i am jumping, which just kills the truck. i am getting about 3' of air then landing on cement, cuz there is still too much snow around my house. i expect the snow to be gone in a week or two, so i will expect breakage to drop significantly.

at least the parts are free, and no questions asked (so far) :D

[rc_x]

I was able to drive my Evader today :), finally after about a week and 3 days of waiting. I fixed my little problem temporarily by using a tamiya shock part that goes to my M-01. It seems to run fine how it is. I put about 4 packs through the truck today and no broken parts to report :D. I was driving off a small dirt jump that is basicly a lump in some guys yard and landing in the road getting about a foot and 1/2 of air off it and everything seemed to be going smoothly. The stock suspension setup is pretty good for bashing around my neighborhood. I can even do wheelies in the grass lol.. When your not breaking parts or repairing stuff the Evader is a fun truck :cool:.

[jdm3849]

will the pro-line dish rims that are flat faced made for the xx-t fit the evader? i highley think so but im not sure, what about the xxx-t?

[pudder]

Yes they will fit. Any rims that fit the T3 will fit the Evader to, and there always is that option to drill out the rear axle hole if it is too small. Any tires and rims will fit, just need the right front rims though, but all modern ones I think are the same size.

-mike

[rc_x]

I'm having a small problem with my Evader, whenever I drive it, the truck makes a really loud clicking noise every time the back wheels make a full turn. I took the whole back of the car apart, looked at everything, and it looked fine so I reassembled it and tested it out and the noise was even louder.

Any help is gladly appreciated.

[CougarTL01]

Hey guys... check this out...

http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p.pgm?Q=1&I=LXPB02&P=7

It's an aluminum front brace made by Duratrax for the XXT. It looks exactly like the black plastic ones on the Evader. Could help with the parts breakage. Only problem is, it's only in blue, so everyone going with the purple aluminum parts will have to wait for them to make one for the Evader.

(I'm sure someone probably already found this, but just thought I'd post it anyway)

[pudder]

rc_x-check all the teeth out on all the gears. I think your mesh could have also been off too. Check out all the teeth to make sure they are still there and erect, then set your spur/pinion mesh properly and try again. The only time I had clicking was when my idler gear (small middle plastic one in tranny) lost a tooth. The T3 idler gear fits also.

-mike

[jdm3849]

guess what? i broke my 15th pice yesterday, im ordering a stanmpede tomorrow because it will work better cause im bashing cya'll

[rc_x]

Pudder you were correct. I was missing about 4 or 5 teeth on the idler gear. :( It was a pain in the butt to take the gearbox apart because of the damn top shaft gear, the dang roll pin just wouldn't come out. I broke a bearing in the process of attempting to remove the bearings from the idler gear also.. Atleast it will only cost me $5 to replace. I've had some bad luck this week. Finally broke the M-01, now my Evader is being serviced.. Might have to buy a Traxxas Bandit to bash with after all :p. Anyway, won't be posting here for about a week or so, going on vacation to California for Spring Break. :cool:

[rc_x]

error.. :confused:

[pudder]

Evader took a good thrashing today, stayed true, I just love this truck, still want a XXXT MFE though.

-mike

[rc-dude]

Is the evader as flexible as every one has been saying??

[pudder]

I don't think it is bad, they will keep up with the T3's at my track, great truck.

-mike

[pudder]

I don't think it is bad, they will keep up with the T3's at my track, great truck. If you already have all the electronics and everything, I would spring for something like a FT T3 or Losi XXXT MFE, they are just made for racing, don't get me wrong, the Evader is great for someone on a tight budget like I was when I started racing, but I will probably make the upgrade for a true full blown race truck.

-mike

[offroader]

surprise, surprise...took my truck out for the first time after replacing everything that broke the last time and guess what??? I broke the Rear Chassis Plate!!

This is pretty sad...I'm not at all impressed with the Evader...Stress Tech Guarantee or not there is no way my truck should be breaking as often as it has been. I haven't driven it hard at all and I've spent more time repairing it then I have spent driving it!!

I think I'm gonna get myself an Associated RC10TC3 and hope I have better luck!!

Paul

[pudder]

That really sucks man. I am not too impressed with the plastic either though I havent broken all too much, off the top of my head here is what I have broken:
-front body mounts(i dont blame them, lots of head ons)
-rear chassis plate(got hit by TC's)
-2 servo arms
-front hub carrier
-gearbox case
-front bumper
-idler gear

That is not all too good considering I have been only driving it for about 3 months. Now there is my Kyosho truck, it is old but very impressive, it will take any crash, for example, I can drive it into a solid wall at full speed and it won't do ANYTHING except my reciever and speed control move because they are only on with velcro. Now that is how RC should be. DuraTrax is so confident in the quality of their plastic, why would they have the one year warranty then? It is really mind boggling. I better not be breaking much in offroad season or I will be getting a Team Losi XXXT MFE, I think I will anyways.

Offroader-The TC3 is a touring car, I think you meant the T3. They are nice trucks, but I like the Losi XXXT a bit better because the newer design.

-mike

[offroader]

Originally posted by pudder

Offroader-The TC3 is a touring car, I think you meant the T3. They are nice trucks, but I like the Losi XXXT a bit better because the newer design.

Yes I meant the T3...although I wouldn't mind having the touring car as well!!

I'm just so tired of not being able to get through a whole day without breaking something...especially when i'm not running it hard.

Paul

[Fliquer]

Whats a good replacement motor for the evader? I've been to the local hobby store and their best compatible motor is the p2k2 pro. But its a 27 turn. Isnt that a bit high?

[offroader]

Just thought I would post a copy of the email I sent to Duratrax this evening...

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I just wanted to let you know how very disappointed I am in the Duratrax Evader. It seems every time I take my truck out something breaks and I have yet to take it off road racing or do any serious bashing with it(I'd be affraid of what would happen if I did).

I have now broken at least 14 parts(probably more) some more then once in the 4 months I have owned the truck.

BROKEN PARTS SO FAR(I'm sure i'm leaving some out):

Front Bulk Head - 2
Front Hub Carrier - 3
Front Bumper - 2
Front Brace - 1
Font Body Mount - 1
Front Knuckle Arm - 1
Shock Tower Front - 2
Front Suspension Arm - 1

And most recently the Rear Chassis Plate broke right where the Rear Suspension Arm attaches. It has gotten to the point where I don't even want to take the truck out anymore, and when I do, if I hit anything or even if another truck runs into me the first thing that goes through my mind is "I wonder what broke this time". I mean I can understand to a certain extent that if I was bashing this thing and being really rough on it that things are bound to break, but I'm not doing that. I know people that do some pretty crazy things with their trucks and have been doing it for along time and they haven't had half the problems I'm having with the Evader. In the 4 months that I've had the truck I've only been able to get through 1 day( that's 2 battery packs) of racing without something breaking...that's pretty sad if you ask me.

And now on top of all that I have to pay for shipping to send this stuff in to have the "Free" Replacement Guarantee parts replaced. That's $7 I have to pay everytime something breaks(which is pretty much everytime I run the truck)...that's alot to pay for something that's suppose to be Replaced for "Free". And what happens at the end of 1 year when the Guaruntee runs out but the parts still break?

I bought the Duratrax Evader partly because it is a RTR Truck and yet I've been spending most of my time rebuilding it. I have started to look for another truck to purchase...something other then a Duratrax truck.

I know i'm not the only one having these problems and I thought you would like to know what some of your customers are thinking.

------------------------------------------------------------------

I'll let you know what kind of response I get...if I get one.

Paul

[Fliquer]

Whats a good replacement motor for the evader? I've been to the local hobby store and their best compatible motor is the p2k2 pro. But its a 27 turn. Isnt that a bit high?

[Green-Evader-ST]

I'm out of the game.. I had pretty good luck with the two evaders I HAD.... I had them, along with some others, in the trunk of my car, the 1:1 scale one...(had been running the r/c's that day) Well, It (full size car) was stolen that day and was recovered this week and is minus all the RC cars and gear..

It's all gone :mad: :mad: :mad: :(

Will get some $$ to replace from the insurance.. Probably less than half the value after deductibles and such.

Moral of the story, car thieves suck

[pudder]

Originally posted by Fliquer
Whats a good replacement motor for the evader? I've been to the local hobby store and their best compatible motor is the p2k2 pro. But its a 27 turn. Isnt that a bit high?

Green-Really sorry to hear that. I'm sure you'll be back some day. :)

Fliquer-Yes 27 turns is "high" but 27 turn motors are "stock" which means they can be used with any speed control, and they are not going to be harmful. I think you got "mod" and "stock" mixed up. The thing is, the lower the turns you go, the better speed control you need.

I have the P2k 2 pro, it is an excellent motor, many people at the track use it. If your hobby shop has multiple potors sitting there (more than one) look at the dyno label on the back and try to find one with the best readings. They differ from motor to motor. Make sure to get the pro though, they are better than the non pro.

-mike

[Fliquer]

So the P2k2 pro would be an improvement over the original evader 20turn? I've found a 14 turn speed gems motor for sale, do u think the stock evader ESC could handle it?

[jdm3849]

the 27 turn will be quite an improvement, dont get that 14 turn motor it will melt the esc at the least, the lowest you should go is a 17 turn, the esc will get pretty warm and the lower the turns the less runtime

[pudder]

Pick yourself up a P2k 2 Pro, yes, they will be even an improvement over the stock motor, actually quite an improvement. 14 turns is way too low, like JDM mentionned, the stock ESC will only handle a 17 turn motor.

-mike

[rc_x]

Well I'm back from vacation from california... It wasn't too bad. I ordered the parts I needed today from tower hobbies :), which was the Idler gear, some shock parts that I broke a while back, and 2 (5x10) bearings that I busted when trying to remove the bearings from the original idler gear that lost a few teeth. I also saved up my money from vacation and school lunch money and bought a Traxxas Bandit to bash around my neighborhood with :o. Also while I was spending the last of my money I bought some comm drops and motor cleaner.

Back to more significant things, while I was in west covina, CA (outside of LA). I went to a few hobby shops there were some pretty nice ones too :D. I wish there were well stocked hobby shops around my house that didn't over charge.

And thats the story? :confused:... lol c-ya later guys.

[pudder]

The T3 or B3 idler gear will fit, you just need to drill out the hole more. The hole already on it works with the Evader bearings, but you need to drill it out more still.

The AE idler is stronger, but is a tooth less so you will want to gear down.

-mike

[Poolboy51]

There are a lot of hobby shops in Spokane, and about 4 world-class offroad tracks.The prices arent that bad out there I imagine, unless they are greedy b*tches. The rental prices are really high around here (really high) wich drives the cost of everything way up too. Cant complain when your in Spo-kane.;)

[Fliquer]

Thx for the motor advice! :)

By the way, after I install the P2k should I use a stronger battery?

[radio_control]

I have figured out everything about my evader except why it breaks so much i can get 2 inches of the ground and when it lands the bulkhead breaks on both sides. i have mine toped at 49 miles an hour thats fast im running a speed jems 2 15 turn quad with custom installed 9.6v wet mags into it and i wanna get duratrax to make aluminum replace ment parts for the sucker. my i have not lost a race with my duratrax it can beat all the nitros around rhinelander wisconsin that have engines up 2 a .45 torq thats the last 1 i beat i will drag a thunder tigre .70 later this week. mine can jag a wheelie can any one elses. oh word of cation if u ever soup up ur evader 2 this point and there is water in the bck tires do not hold 1 and rev that bad boy. the tires will explode in your face. thats what happened to me.

[pudder]

Lol, that is funny about the exploding thing. I don;t know how fast my truck is, not that fast I know. I am only running a stock motor. :) I had an awsome time at racing today. Here are my results:

1'st race-awsome, truck was dialed and my driving good, finished second. Was 6 trucks racing against.

2'nd race-I was not doing good for some reason, then my batt fell out, I got last. :(

3'rd race-I sucked, then I dumped for some odd reason and got last.

Main (was only one)- I got second my driving was awsome I did better than my first race I think. :)

-mike

[rc_x]

Poolboy51 - Yeah there are about 4 hobby shops, and 5 decent tracks to run at :D. But the hobby shops I get around too, well... They want 34.99 for a sanyo 1500. Everything is just poorly priced, there was one hobby shop (Spokane Indoor Raceway) with decent prices but the owner was killed in a robbery a while back. :(

[Raydee]

I hate to say it but you get what you pay for! I bought one for my girlfriend and what a waste of money. Three times she drove it so far and each time it broke. Just landing it wrong and the front bulkhead snaps like a twig. Selling it for a XXX-T!!

Originally posted by offroader
Just thought I would post a copy of the email I sent to Duratrax this evening...

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I just wanted to let you know how very disappointed I am in the Duratrax Evader. It seems every time I take my truck out something breaks and I have yet to take it off road racing or do any serious bashing with it(I'd be affraid of what would happen if I did).

I have now broken at least 14 parts(probably more) some more then once in the 4 months I have owned the truck.

BROKEN PARTS SO FAR(I'm sure i'm leaving some out):

Front Bulk Head - 2
Front Hub Carrier - 3
Front Bumper - 2
Front Brace - 1
Font Body Mount - 1
Front Knuckle Arm - 1
Shock Tower Front - 2
Front Suspension Arm - 1

And most recently the Rear Chassis Plate broke right where the Rear Suspension Arm attaches. It has gotten to the point where I don't even want to take the truck out anymore, and when I do, if I hit anything or even if another truck runs into me the first thing that goes through my mind is "I wonder what broke this time". I mean I can understand to a certain extent that if I was bashing this thing and being really rough on it that things are bound to break, but I'm not doing that. I know people that do some pretty crazy things with their trucks and have been doing it for along time and they haven't had half the problems I'm having with the Evader. In the 4 months that I've had the truck I've only been able to get through 1 day( that's 2 battery packs) of racing without something breaking...that's pretty sad if you ask me.

And now on top of all that I have to pay for shipping to send this stuff in to have the "Free" Replacement Guarantee parts replaced. That's $7 I have to pay everytime something breaks(which is pretty much everytime I run the truck)...that's alot to pay for something that's suppose to be Replaced for "Free". And what happens at the end of 1 year when the Guaruntee runs out but the parts still break?

I bought the Duratrax Evader partly because it is a RTR Truck and yet I've been spending most of my time rebuilding it. I have started to look for another truck to purchase...something other then a Duratrax truck.

I know i'm not the only one having these problems and I thought you would like to know what some of your customers are thinking.

------------------------------------------------------------------

I'll let you know what kind of response I get...if I get one.

Paul

[offroader]

Originally posted by Raydee
I hate to say it but you get what you pay for!

Selling mine for either an Associated RC10T3 or Traxxas Rustler...can't wait to have soemthing that I won't be affraid to take out of the house!!

[Poolboy51]

Im really fed up with Duratrax's antics. If the aluminum front brace isnt in by the end of the month Im gonna send an e-mail to Duratrax and sell it (re-install the Duratrax esc, of course). I am kinda POed right now.:mad: There is somethin wrong with my charger and it wont charge.:mad: :mad:

[pudder]

Try checking your fuse

-mike

[Poolboy51]

Ok I'll try that. The green light (that shows its charging) just blinks. It all started when I forgot to take my battery off the connectors when it was done charging.:mad: :( :confused:

[pudder]

The only thing I can think of is if you touched the gator clips together on your charger if it has them. I know my friend accidently did this and he blew his fuse. Usually when the lite it on solid, it is charging, and when it is blinking, it is on trickle.

Just try checking your fuse.

-mike

[rc_x]

It seems a lot of people are unhappy with their Evaders performance. I've had a good experience with my Evader so far, except for when I ran into a cement block (came out of nowhere) and well... broke about 6 parts. I'm gonna start racing in the stock class with my Evader in about a week. :)

[offroader]

I've had rotten luck with mine and I'm presently looking for something new...I was leaning towards the Associated RC10T3 but now I'm kind interested in the Traxxas Emaxx...just trying to decide if it's worth all that money or not.

I have decided to give my Evader one last chance though while I'm looking at other trucks and deciding what to get. We're opening our new offroad track this weekend so I'm gonna give it one last chance and see what happens...wish me luck :D :D

Paul

[pudder]

Sunday I broke the tranny brace where the ballstud goes in, I think it was my fault because once I stripped out a hole, then just used CA glue, thus making it brittle and prone to breaking. Oh well. The Race Ifinished I didn't do all too bad.

BTW: I am getting a FT T3 at the end of June. :D Now if I break a part, I know the hobby shops, or someone at my track will have a pice. :)

I think I might sell my Evader too. It is a good truck and all, but I don't think I want to have another one kicking around. Also my friend's little bro is interested.

-mike

[FSU427P]

hey Evader fans!. I just bought mine about a week ago and absolutely love it. I have thrashed it around quite a bit and have had no breaks! So maybe I am just lucky:) Anyways, just wanted to pop in and get my name out there! Talk to all of you later!

[pudder]

Welcome to the board! I have the same case as you, haven't broken too much.

Most of the reason I am getting a FT T3, parts support and a true racetruck from the ground up! :)

Be sure to get some of the colored upgrades, I have most of the blue ones, they look killer.

-mike

[FSU427P]

Sounds good. I e-mailed the support staff at duratrax and they replied within' a day. He told me that a fair amount of aluminum/graphite hop ups will be available for the summer, as well as many new items that he could not disclose due to testing and prototype classification. Good luck with your T3, they are great trucks if your the all-business, no messing around type.

[pudder]

I forgot about that. Well if they are bringing out all that stuff, I think forsure I will be keeping my Evader! :) (But still get a FT T3 just for racing) I know I'll be getting some graphite suff.

-mike

[topkart23]

i got my parts in from duratrax this week and started to put my evader back togeather. one of the parts that broke was the servo horn (the piece that connects to the servo), the only thing was, it did not fit :confused: . it goes forward too far so when i put the upper brace on it would hit and not be able to steer. has anyone else had this problem? if so, what did you do to fix it?

[pudder]

You probably mounted your servo or your steering linkage wrong. Check to make sure you're servo is as far back as it will go on the little mounting posts. I accidently did that once, and had the same problem. BTW the stock servo arms blow, I broke one from a ***** hit into a wall, and now I have a blue one and it has taken muchmore abuse.

I was out bashing today when I went sideways into a slide on purpose, and on a little bump, I went to look and the rear ballstud mount was snapped. Needless to say I was pissed off. I had just replaced that part from when I broke it at racing last week, I go and take the thing out and it snaps, what kind of crap is that. I wil be glad when I get my FT T3, no more broken stuff, I just wish the Evader was stronger.

-mike

[FSU427P]

I agree with you there Mike, i just hope I can keep mine in one piece! I too replaced the servo arm (preventave matainance!). I have a question though. I am not too astute with servo savers and I was wondering how to properly adjust the one on the Evader. What should the proper setting be so it does not snap apart. Thanks for your help.

[hambone]

Hold the servo arm steady so it doesn't move.

Grab a wheel and try to make it turn while keeping the servo arm in same position. if yours is like mine was new it was too tight!

means the servo arm moved with the wheel turning.

there is a nurled ring on the post of the saver, turn it counter clockwise just a little and repeat the test until the wheels turn with the servo horn stayin in the same position. there should be some resistance its spring loaded.

DONT go to loose or you will have steering slop causing you to drive like a drunken sailor.

hope this helps.

[Aluma]

Hi all!,
yesterday was the first day I raced my evader(got it a week before) It was sooo easy to drive...I got first place in one of the qualifiers! unfortunately I'm undergeared...whats a good pinion size to use? and I think it's bottoming out on all the jumps....what should i do for that? increase the oil wt?increase spring tension?

I didn't get to finish the A main cuz my rear ball stud came off...not sure if it stripped or it was loose from the factory...either way I just super glued it back on. :P

I also broke my standard servo :( guess I should get a metal gear ....

Oh yeah, what tires should I get? are all offroad wheels compatible? a friend lent me his rc10 wheels to race with...he said the stock ones wouldn't hook up...he was right...I was all over the place.

[guver]

Hey all ,

Just got my evader from Tower and ran a couple of batteries thru it. It sure doesn't seem very fast though. Oh well at least I haven't broke it yet. Maybe I should get a 7-cell battery?

[guver]

One observation is with the shocks: one front bottoms out before the shock is completely collapsed, the other one collapses all the way. Both rears are equal, but they bottom out before the shafts are all the way collapsed also. What's up with that? too much oil?

[FSU427P]

Personally I think that the suspension from the factory is too springy. Just add some heavier weight oil and try out some stiffer shock combinations. I have tried my Evader with a stiffer setup on a moderately bumpy track and it works great. The stock setup has backyard bashers in mind, and maybe stock racers.

[pudder]

Originally posted by Aluma
Hi all!,
yesterday was the first day I raced my evader(got it a week before) It was sooo easy to drive...I got first place in one of the qualifiers! unfortunately I'm undergeared...whats a good pinion size to use? and I think it's bottoming out on all the jumps....what should i do for that? increase the oil wt?increase spring tension?

I didn't get to finish the A main cuz my rear ball stud came off...not sure if it stripped or it was loose from the factory...either way I just super glued it back on. :P

I also broke my standard servo :( guess I should get a metal gear ....

Oh yeah, what tires should I get? are all offroad wheels compatible? a friend lent me his rc10 wheels to race with...he said the stock ones wouldn't hook up...he was right...I was all over the place.

It all deppends on what motor you are running, what kind of track you are on, ect befor eyou can ask that question. Please tell me what motor you are running, what current tires, what track condition, ect. and I will do the best to help you out.

I know for loose dirt tracks, use Losi rear pin tires, I do not know what they are called, I just picked them up today. Pro-Line Step Pin T's are the exact same thing. The tread basicly looks like nipples.

-mike

[Green-Evader-ST]

As I'd reported a few weeks back, I had my 2 Evader RC's stolen. Well, I got 2 new Evaders this weekend... Yellow and Purple, so much for my User ID on the board... :p

One thing I noticed out of the box, One had a super smooth Diff, the other was gritty as h**L out of the box. I took it apart and cleaned out the grease (which was very dark) and smooth sanded the steel washers (item 120) that the balls ride against. One had a heavy burr on one side. New Diff grease and it's much better, but not a nice as the other one.

Ran thru 3 packs and didn't have any problems, nothing broke!!

[Aluma]

pudder... i'm running a stock motor....MVP from integy....the track has very small amount of loose dirt...more of a hard surface and some parts a little loose..... i can usually clear a double jump after a long straight, but sometimes hit the crest of the second...

I used the duratrax tires that came with it, but seemed like the truck spun out a bunch. A buddy lent me his bow ties for the rear and it did better....

Just curious, whats with the front tires that have pins and edges? what are those for? Whats a Blue groove track? I'm new to all this offroad stuff.

I dont even know what pinion i got on there with the stock motor...but i know it rooster tails like no ones businesss!! :D

[Aluma]

hey, what other bodies can fit on the evader....?

ie...proline? T3 body? MT body?

[FSU427P]

Most standard size truck bodies will fit the EVST. Your best bet is to go with Losi XX-T and XXX-T bodies, as any of these should be a perfect fit, including the Matt Francis edition! Pro-Line has an abundance of choices with all of the popular truck styles. You can also order an OEM Evader ST body from either Duratrax or Tower Hobbies and you can get it clear, so you can paint it however you wish. Good luck!

[pudder]

Aluma, don't get a T3 body, they are NOT a good fit on the Evader if you can fit them on. Get a Losi body from Pro-Line. If you say Bow Ties are better, buy some of them, also try out Step Pin's, they should be better.

-mike

[Aluma]

thanks for the info.... losi bodies.

now what pinion is best for stock motors?

and i read on this thread that the best setting is shocks on out most holes top and bottom...is that true?

i think i should go to 30wt oil though....

[pudder]

Thirty wt should be enough. I run 20, and it is good, and feels like it would be okay for offroad. I am going to use it for about a month of racing, then get a FT T3. I would agree that the outermost holes are the best. I ran the inner ones for indoor, and they were crap for me, but for outdoor, raise it up. For the bottom, try the middle or inner holes, and the bottom outter holes on the top.

For pinions, no one can really tell you what is best, like I said before, tell me what motor you are running, what tires, what spur, and what type of track (dirt, onroad, short, long, ect)

-mike

[jdm3849]

WOW after about 5 months tower shipped my blue aluminum braces! took long enough

[Green-Evader-ST]

jdm - which braces are they? The one that mounts to the front of the bulkhead?

Thanks

[jdm3849]

the one in front that goes over the servo and attaches to the bulkhead,and the other one attaches to the shock tower and the backplate

[guver]

Ok I put some better rear tires on and am learning how to drive better--this evader seems to be getting faster even though the tires have geared it down. By the way which is a good 7-cell battery to get? a 3000mah nimh? All I've been using are 1500 6-cells. I think I'm going to get another evader from tower. Haven't broken anything yet. Oh yes I did have to titen the diff, pinion gear, and slipper clutch.

[jdm3849]

well you can only charge 3000's on some chargers,and it will take an average of 50 minutes to charge them

tell me which charger you have

dont get 2 of the same vehicle,get something different like a traxxas stampede,there only 76 bux for a kit

[guver]

yes you have a good point about a different one, I was thinking about parts interchanging and not having to stock alot of different parts. I am pretty sure I am going to get a Terra-crusher when I get the money. Anyway I have a MRC 959 superbrain, it is supposed to charge almost any battery. I don't have a discharger though.

[pudder]

Whoah, that is sad. Do you even have your Evader anymore? I think you should complain to Tower for taking so damn long. I know even I can get parts on backorder from my track's hobby shop for quicker.

-mike

[elau]

Guys, I am leaning into ordering an Evader with TH; but the breakdown of parts is quite high. Please convince me that I should instead of friends recommending the Rustler. I will not be racing.....

Thanks.

[pudder]

The Evader is a good truck, I am getting into racing a lot more, and decided racetrucks, and racing is just my thing. That is why I am getting a FT T3, it just has some of the things I can't trust with the Evader. It would be a much better truck if the plastic was stronger, but as DuraTrax has said, they are bringing out a lineup of graphite and aluminum upgrades. The Rustler is a good reliable truck, I would get the Evader first though. The Rustler is a bit outdated, and has no where near the features the Evader has. The Rustler is a meant basher though. The T3 RTR is also a good truck, but is more expensive, and the LRP RUnner (ESC) that comes with it, well I would have to say that thing blows chunks.

The ESC that comes with the Rustler isn't too great either, but hella better than the T3 one. I have gone through one of the Evader's ESC's but it was just effective. They replaced it with a new one for free, and shipped it back to Canada in around two weeks, and that was around the time when the boarder's security was still pretty high.

You wanted the low down, well there is is^ :)

-mike

[jdm3849]

pudder i still have the evader with about 15 spare parts, i am looking to sell it but not on the net cause im scared to get ripped off


elau, i would go with the rustler cause it is so strong and it is alot cheaper, i like it more also cause theres more hop up potential which makes it fun, its a 100percent basher, or get the stampede if you want to jump

the kits are really cheap and you can choose your own stuff instead of having the factory for you the kit for pede is 76 and rusty is like 65, i have a perfect set up for bashing at a cheap price PM me or i have AIM im,jdm3849

[pudder]

As long as you are not going to be racing, get the Pede or Rustler. I'd get the pede, it is just like a tall ST. :)

If you are going to be racing, get something like the RC10 T3, nothing better for racing then a T3... or Losi, but they don't have RTR XXXT.

www.traxxas.com
www.duratrax.com
www.teamlosi.com
www.rc10.com

-mike

[jdm3849]

i am confused and mad right now, i got the front brace about 2 minutes ago, but it isnt what i expected, its that piece that comes with the bulkhead but in aluminum, it goes behind the bumper and in front of the bulkhead, when i ordered it i thought it was the piece that holds the steering system in and goes over the servo, oh well, i did pay 11 dollars usd

[offroader]

Well I decided enough is enough...and sold my Evader this evening, I'm sooooo excited and so thankfull to be rid of it!!! I am so looking forward to getting my E-Maxx!!!

Thanks to everyone here that helped me out along the way and good luck to you guys and your Evaders.

[jdm3849]

how much did you sell it for and which stuff was with it?
cause i wanna sell mine too

[offroader]

I got $180(which is almost $300 Canadian) for it. It included a bunch of replacement parts, extra wheels and tires and a custom painted body. I've also got an auction up on Ebay for another bunch of replacement parts...
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1725119191

I'm happy with what I got for it, and I can't wait to get my E-Maxx!!!!

[Aluma]

hey guys, how in the world to you really rebuild the shocks?

I followed the instruction on the booklet and they dont work!

I used 30wt, filled to the bottom of the threads, screwed in bottom cap a little and pushed the rod in half way. then screw in a bit more and push rod in all way, and finish screwin in the cap.

results....shock rod doesnt go in anymore and doesnt even move.

tried again, and took out bunch of oil... goes all the way in but two of em rebound all the way, and the other half out.

my truck now has the front suspension way tall and the rear just barely touchin the ground.

HHHHEEELLLLLPPPPP!!!!:confused:

why cant this be as easy as rebuilding a touring car shock? :P

[pudder]

Aluma-I know what you did and it is kinda funny too. Try putting the Rear shocks on the Rear and Front on Front. :D You have them backwards dude. The front are shorter, and rear are longer, same with the springs.

I finally broke a front a-arm, and a good way to do it too, hit it right in the middle at full speed hitting a wooden stake. :D

-mike

[jdm3849]

pudder,i ran into a wooden stake marking a growing tree with my pede and the stake broke:D

[Aluma]

i know i puttem on backwards...wanted to see what would happen... :D

BUT they dont work like when i got the truck after i rebuilt them.

the instructions dont work! the shocks dont go in or out. like they are stuck or something. and i got mad and pushed the rod in all the way and i broke one! :( the black cap broke and the oring popped out! geez.... this bites

[pudder]

jdm-I'd like to see an RC break the steak I hit...

Aluma-Did you consider it could have been "user error" for your shock breaking... :rolleyes:

-mike

[jdm3849]

the stampede is a brick on wheels,and handles like one too:D :D :mad:

[pudder]

"Where are you FT T3 when I need you?"

"About a month away." it answers.

"Aww crap!"

Atleast I have my Evader running for the final race of the carpet season. :D

Hopefully that I will still be in 3rd place for the truck points standings at the end of the day and they give away trophies for 1'st second and 3rd. :)

-mike

[Aluma]

so what you guys think would be better to replace the evader with:

1. MF XXX-T ?

2. FT T3?

[jdm3849]

i would say M.F.E, cause of all the red,great parts support(at least around here) and small things like heat sink motor mount and threaded shocks(i think A.E has preload spacer ones)

[pudder]

I think either are good. They are both awsome trucks, the AE is a bit older, but if you are just a sport racer, you porbably wouldn't notice too much between them.

Before you buy, check to see what your LHS carries parts for, and same with your local track if you have one. It would be best to get the one with the better parts support.

-mike

[sycotikskir]

I have been reading around some of these forums and I can't see how all of you seem to like your Evaders so much. I begged my mom to get me one for christmas. I got it and charged some packs and took it into my driveway to drive. There wasn't snow but it was cold, I hadn't even run one pack through it when I hit a railroad tie at very little throttle and blew the front end apart. I broke the bottom of the shock, front body mount, rim, bulkhead, and some pother parts. So I took it to the LHS to see if they could help me. they were quite rude to me. This was my fisrt hobby grade truck and I was quite mad about the quality. I know I shouldn't have driven it in the cold but i didn't think it would be bad. So after I got back from the LHS my parents were quite annoyed at how rude they were. I emailed Duratrax and they said they would send me the aprts. After 6 weeks i finally got my parts. By then we had a warm spell where the temps were in the 70's. Iw as very anxious to get it put back together and drive it more. Well I had it together for about a week and I nipped a mailbox post. I was barely moving when i hit it. I ended up breaking the around 15 parts in the front end of my truck. I got quite aggravated. My mom was not even the least bit happy. She told me to call the LHS and see if they could help me at all and once again they were very very rude to me. Well tha day (feb 20) I emailed Duratrax telling them how disapointed Iw as in the quality. With in 2 hrs they emailed me back and said that there was a porblem in manufacturing parts and that new parts had been made and that they would send me the parts a no charge if I just emailed them a list of parts. I sent them a list ASAP. I didn't hear a thing back. I waited about a month and still had no parts so I emailed them asking where my parts were. The same guy that promised me parts said that there was no order placed for parts and asked if I could send him the emails from the person promising me parts. I sent them and never got a response or parts. well on the other day I emailed them one last time asking wheremy parts were and saying how they are very close to losing a customer. I am just very very mad about my very poor expierences with Duratrax. I just wanted to let everyone know about this.
If anyone else has had problems like this please say something.

[MrB1973]

I found this a different RC board..

Evader Hop-Ups
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Hop-Ups for your Evader will be available next week, please check back.

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:D

[pudder]

sykot-That is too bad. If you could have, you should have taken that truck back and gotten something stronger like a T3 RTR or something. That shouldn't happen at such low speeds, even at high speeds.

My Evader seems to take hits pretty good but my friends T3 almost never breaks and he has been is much worse crashes than me.

-mike

[Aluma]

so what exactly are these Hopups going to be?

[guver]

Is there any way to change the rear toe-in?
Mine looks like it is towing in an awful lot.
I also wore out the insides of the rear tires very quickly.
Busted my first part (front bulk-head) when it landed on one wheel over a steep jump. Also my rear wheels are cracking on the outside bead area where the tires are glued. I guess I'll have to get some better wheels. Any recommendations?
Still havent gotten a battery yet either.
Wow this could get expensive

[Aluma]

I'm using HPI MT wheels version F5 for the front and back...(Y)

it offsets the wheels about 1/2 an inch :D wider truck!

look nice too....front Losi edges with rear Losi step pins... havent used them yet... cant wait! :D


got the aluminum tranny brace too! looks nice.

[sycotikskir]

My LHS wouldn't take it back...they didn't want naything t do with it Who makes the t3?? I am lookin into gettin a new truck to replace this one.

[DanzST]

Guver-
I noticed that mine had a lot of rear toe-in as well, especially after putting on new HPI rims. I checked and there is no way to adjust it, that I could find. Duratrax said it was desgined like this to give "optimal control and traction with the stock tires and wheels." So there you have it, hope this helps or in this case not help.

Dan

[guver]

Hmm, I have worn out the insides of my rear tires bald already. Maybe it is the toe-in or maybe because of the negative camber. I adjusted the rear camber to zero to compensate, then I find out that there is an adjustable rear-toe kit DTXC 6151. Ok what was the number for those HPI wheels?

[pudder]

If the inside of the tire is worn down, it is from poor camber adjustments.

The T3 is made by Team Associated.

Go with the HPI 5 spoke deep offset rims, they look awsome and make your truck a lot wider. Don't get chrome though becausedirt will quickly wear the chrome down to nothing.

There is no way to adjust rear toe in. The stock setting is 3 degrees of toe in.

-mike

[Aluma]

added the rear aluminum tranny brace and losi step pins with directionals up front and right before the race....POOF...the ESC wont turn on! :mad:

dangit! :mad: man, i just gonna buy a GOOD one....hehehe

forget this sending away and getting a new one....by the time i get it back.... :P

[Green-Evader-ST]

Did Duratrax remove the on-line warranty replacements ordering page from thier website? I've not had to use it for a month or more and can't find it. If it's still there, can someone post a link to the page or copy and paste the URL.

Thanks,
David

[guver]

http://www.duratrax.com/techsupport/evader-support.html

this used to work, but seems to redirect you to another page now
I used it about a week ago.
BTW does anyone know if a towerhobbies 27-turn motor is any good? Anyone have one? My stock one is so slow.

[jdm3849]

i have heard its a p2k but a cheaper version,it would work good if your really on abudget,otherwise i would get a p2k or p2k2

[pudder]

JDM is right. I don't think it is rebuildable, and rebuildable motors are way better, for cleaning, tuning, and many reasons.

Guess what, my ESC won't work now! :mad: I am getting tired of this ****. When the ESc and Evader works good, it is awsome stuff, but half the time it doesnt. Enouch of this cheap crap, from now on I am going Novak for ESC's and AE for trucks!

-mike

[Aluma]

i just ordered my new ESC...getting another quantum sport.

hopefully this one wont quit working right before you need it.
the one on my car hasn't and i really like the punch control. :D

[navspecwar]

i read back on like page 12 or sumthin that the reason all yall's evaders were breakin was because of a bad batch of plastic. any idea as to when this "batch" of trucks was sold? i got mine friday, and so far, have put about 20 - 25 runs on it, no prob. one question tho - sometimes, the throttle will just die for no reason. when i push the truck, maybe 2 or 3 feet, it comes back. could the ESC be overheating, and that little pause cool it off enuff to run again?

[jdm3849]

dont worry theres nothing wrong with your esc,its supposed to do that,when the battery gets low it stops itself,and if you push it it will start going again,its a safety feature

[navspecwar]

CR@P! the second i posted that, i went out a drive my truck. i immediately broke the servo horn. talk about a jinx:rolleyes: . anyway, i sent duratrax an email. i cant remember who it was, but someone said that they didnt have to send the part in. any word on that, or did you eventually have to send the broken part in? thx

[jdm3849]

for all the stress tech parts you can order over the internet or call them and they'll gladly send them to you if you have no proof

[navspecwar]

sweet
hopefully ill be ready to go soon - that is, if duratrax has their act together.:rolleyes:

[jdm3849]

well i guess now you cant do it over the internet,cause i just went to order some hubs:(

[pudder]

How come when I have a nice track to drive on at home, and free time, and lots of batts, and friends to run with, my truck has to break? Oh well, this time out is letting me cool down, and by time I get in some parts, I should be all better.

I gotta say that this truck is an awsome stock carpet racer.

-mike

[navspecwar]

hey, the downtime gives me a chance to work on my track. :p

[topkart23]

good luck with