Duratrax Evader ST Forum v1.0

[2nd Gear]

I didnt see one so I figured Id start one.I have had mine for just over a month and the Ive placed 4th in the B main so far with a OLD paradox.It had failed on me last round so Ididnt do so good.The magnets came off and gave the arm a hug.In a second round qual I got hit and didnt notice the pinion hit the can and it got HOT! thats why the magnets came off.My fault.I bet it doesnt happen again..

[timberwolf177]

Yeah, I have had the one I bought for my daughter for about 2 months, I really have not got the chance to race mine much either. It took me a while to even set it up. But now that it is set up, its a great little truck for the buck. I have a reedy rage in mine, and the think kicks butt.

[pudder]

Ya I haven't really driven it too much. I need to wait till racing. I think I am going to race with the Photon Speed motor, it seems decent. :)

-mike

[ameittunen]

i am getting one for x-mas.

[pudder]

I asked for one for Christmas, but then I went out and bought on myself. :D

I also have a review on the Evader.

http://www.geocities.com/pudder_type_r/evader_rev.html

-mike

[2nd Gear]

Did you guys see the Car action with the Evader??They said it can compete in stock truck only??????It wont be able to in Mod??????This is funny due to the fact that they always say it depends on the driver and set up???No they didnt say it exactly like that but they might as well of done it.Man I like the mag. but what they are saying is you "MUST" have these "stiff" chassis and parts to be with the "IN" crowd.Even if this is to be true which I dont know beings I havent tried mod in it yet not that I want to beings it isnt as much fun as stock.And cheaper to boot.Im just wanting to know what fellow Evader owners thinnk about the BS article.

[pudder]

Well I am gonna race in whatever class they put me in, I don't care about what others say about the flexible parts. Once I get the money, I will get a P2K 2 Pro motor and run stock.

-mike

[2nd Gear]

pudder good choice Im just getting tired of guys degrading it when they dont have one.I know car action drove it how else would they know what they know about it.But I think that the flexable parts are a good thing.When I get a chance Ill run mod 1 week and see how it goes then I can give a review of The Evader in MOD!!!!!!!look out losi and assoc!!!!LOL

[KnightShift]

I own two Evaders! It's kinda an odd story but here goes...

I bought my first Evader last week (first RC car ever), came from my LHS complete with a battery and charger and went home and charged the battery, took it outside (just above freezing with no snow on the ground) and had a pretty good time learning to drive it for about 5 minutes before I lost control and went over a curb and hit a parked car just under the bumper. The impact broke several pieces of the front suspension (bulkhead, shock tower, and a couple others... about $25 worth of damage)

Well, I took it apart and sorted through the broken pieces all of which were ST parts and covered under the warranty so I sent them in to get replaced (still waiting for parts). I went back to my LHS and asked if he had parts, he said 'not yet' and so after a little internal debate I bought the second one he had! At the very least I'd have some spare parts!! I intend on putting the first one back to together though...

That's why I have two trucks!

I bashed my second truck around for several battery packs at the local RC indoor carpet track (not meant for offroad trucks) it had 4 inch high plywood borders surrounding the track, most of the time I was plowing over them though while the road cars were tearing the track up... I guess the servo arm couldn't take it and it finally gave out but other than that, no damage... One of the guys had a spare Futaba servo arm that fit so it wasn't a big deal.

I like my Truck!! :)

The ball diff was too lose from the factory and I found the included instructions for adjusting the slipper clutch and ball diff a little confusing and so I searched the internet and found an article that makes sense, here it is...

http://www.rc-car.com/detail.asp?id=99

Anyways, when I get my first truck fixed I'm going to take it to the local RC track and let people race it against my other one. I plan on making some plywood tabletops and other off road type obstacles to throw onto the track so it'll be fun to use my trucks. A couple of the guys there have E-maxx's...

Regards,
KnightShift

[pudder]

That is kind of funny.

Get this though. I was driving my truck doing like 4-5 foot jumps in the air, and i was just bashing it into everything, broke a gearbox case and servo brace. Got free ones, but in the meantime, my LHS owner was nice enough (which he always is) to help me out and lend me some new parts to replace my other while I was waiting, even though the LHS's are never involved in the warrany. He said when I get the new parts back, give them to him, and he will refund me for the parts, but the bad thig is, he didn't have the parts in. But now I have it running, it is just sitting on my shelf waiting till Jan 6 for it's and my first race.

-mike

[2nd Gear]

Man it is cool to have people like that to look towards.Now remember drive smooth and dont worry about winning.Take every and I mean every race as a learning experience.I am still learning and it has been a year since I started racing.Im starting to get into the A mains with my FTB3 buggy and in my Evader Ive been getting into the B's with my wonderful Evader.And I did that with 100% stock equipment.Now Im learning more about the truck the better Im getting.Now it is time to change things up and do some suspension changes and shock oil and springs.I wish you the best in you racing Mike.



P.S. rememberwhen your stuck against the boards you got your self there and not the marshall.

[pudder]

Yes, luckily someone that is going to be racing with me is gonna pit withe me and help me out with racing. We already discussed just about having fun, not winning, just wanting to win will get me nowhere.

I can't use reverse in races?

-mike

[2nd Gear]

It is because the marshalls are out there to get you in the right direction.Oh yeah I run stock so I used a Paradox... :D

[evaderstrules]

I was wondering, because at my lhs they race on road only and I race in the novice class and hardly anyone races there, would the car be likly to break.

[pudder]

Maybe if you hit the boards real hard. I have had no real problem with durability.

I won't have to worry about reverse now because I can dial it out with my JR XR3.

-mike

[evaderstrules]

what about bashing does anyone know what it will stand up to?

[pudder]

I broke a gearbox case doing 4-5 foot high jumps hitting stuff in the air landing hard on concrete, rammed lots of other things, never broke more.

-mike

[evaderstrules]

hey pudder what would be the first thing you would replace, besides the electronics

[pudder]

Take out the motor connectors and directly solder the motor wires to motor, besides that nothing really. Just maybe some cool looking blue parts because I like blue.

Gees, it is 11:30 pm here now. Night all, Merry Christmas too. I hope my mom brings me that RC stuff I wanted. ;)

Signing off for now.

-mike

[2nd Gear]

Originally posted by evaderstrules
hey pudder what would be the first thing you would replace, besides the electronics The rear tires like loose soil so if you run on a tight compacted dirt then this is what you would want to get.The fronts work good but might be better with foams.Ill keepem' though.

[pudder]

What do you mean they would work better with foams, the frint tires have foam inserts too.

-mike

[2nd Gear]

Originally posted by pudder
What do you mean they would work better with foams, the frint tires have foam inserts too.

-mike Im sorry if they had firm foams they might be better...The ones that are in there are so soft they dont seen like there even there.I think they made them that way due to the stiffness of the springs to help soak up some lil bumps..The rims are brittle so be careful.

[pudder]

Oh, Take the foams out, and now squeeze them, big difference!

I don't care about the rims now because I am going to be carpet racing with foam tires so I just have to worry about the faomies.

How do you take the photon motor apart, do you have to bend the little tabs on the can because I want to just make it so I can take it off with two screws if possible.

-mike

[KnightShift]

Being so new to this hobby, I dont know much about maintenance or tuning... How can I tune my steering to make it turn sharper?? Also, is there a brake on this ESC? if so how do I adjust it??

I strapped my little b&w camera/transmitter on my Evader and drove it around my appartment while watching on my 32" tv. :)

Regards,
KnightShift

[2nd Gear]

Knight do you want sharper turning on dirt or onroad??If it is dirt get some diff. tires.I have some LOSI frnts im gonna try this weekend so Ill let you guys know how it works out.Plus I got alot of blue parts and a P2K2 some more shock oil and 5 sets of springs..Man come on Saturday!!!

[RustlerBoy]

My little brother is planning on getting this truck for his first truck. Is it worth it? He is 10. I would do the work on it till he learned.

[KnightShift]

2nd Gear, basically on carpet right now. Our indoor carpet racing track is only about 4 feet wide with lots turns and a couple straight aways... My truck handled it pretty well, but I'd like to be able to make sharper turns, if I miss a corner I usually end up going right over the 4" barrier (that's how I broke my servo arm last week after a couple batteries packs worth...)

Is there a brake on these trucks? Does it brake during that slight pause before going into reverse? I noticed it slowed down faster when I pushed the trigger forward and let go before it went into reverse. Can I adjust that? Can I disable reverse??

Regards,
KS

[evaderstrules]

does anyone know if the car has good traction on loose dirt, or if you turn will start doing donuts

[KnightShift]

Evadersrule, I found that it had pretty good traction on a dirt parking lot by my friends house, it rooster tails and it does awesome donuts! It has pretty good acceleration too...

KS

[2nd Gear]

Originally posted by evaderstrules
does anyone know if the car has good traction on loose dirt, or if you turn will start doing donuts W/ the slipper tightened it will do donuts but if you loosen it it will do just fine.It has very good performance on the track bone stock.I mean nothing changed...Knight the esc isnt able to have only brakes and you cant lock out the reverse niether.Its the only gripe about the truck if you was to ask me....

[pudder]

The spikes are fairly large, so it would hook up in loose stuff good. For racing, I am going to dial out reverse. THough I use a radio (JR XR3) capable of doing that.

-mike

[KnightShift]

A guy at my local car club has extra parts for Losi XXT and I heard that they are compatible with the Evader? I'd like to get my broken truck up and running, what would be involved with putting on the Losi parts? It's the front bulkhead, shock tower, brace and bumper that's broken. Any suggestions?

I'm making some plywood table tops to take to my local carpet track, something that can be easily moved and stored. I'm also trying to think of a way to make some rough track, moguls? A couple of the guys there have stadium trucks, it should be interesting.

KS

[2nd Gear]

As of right now I know of the bulkhead fitting.but the other frnt end pieces i dont know maybe somone else will knnow.I do know that a Associated B/T3 slipper pad work in the Evader!!!!I think the plastic piece works fine but I want to test the B3 part in there COOL>>>

[pudder]

You want rough track...

Try taking pieces of 2x4 wood and placing them under carpet, that makes it a little bumpy.

For me, racing starts Jan 6. :)

-mike

[KnightShift]

:)

Bump

-KS

[KnightShift]

Ok.. Does anyone know any tips or tricks specific to this truck?

-KS

[2nd Gear]

How about telling us what you know so we dont tell you something you already know???

[pudder]

I just kinda helped someone buying a truck today, they pretty much had their mind set on an Evader at my LHS, and I told them about the parts gaurantee, and stull like that to make them more confident in a good choice.

Well not so much tricks, but tips.

-Ball diff much too loose out of factory.
-Take out the motor wire connectors and solder wires directly, keep the connector covers on so the wires dont touch after soldered.
-Servo saver was a bit too loose.
-Pinion setscrew needs threadlock.
-Could paint lexan gear cover to match paint scheme.

-mike

[KnightShift]

I pretty much know nothing, I'm two weeks into this hobby! I know about the ball diff and slipper clutch adjustment that has to be made, I found the easy answer to that here...

http://www.rc-car.com/detail.asp?id=99

I've been looking through some RC car magazines and see some awesome bodies and tires/rims, will other bodies and tires/rims fit on the Evader?

on the subject of indoor offroad tracks, I was thinking about making a section of track out of paper mache molded with 2x4's and stuff underneith and then putting acrylic on top and painting it. Does that sound like it would work? ex: a 5 x 4 foot section of moguls and ruts to add to our indoor carpet track... maybe even a banked corner.

I've already designed a couple of plywood table tops I'm gonna start making.. :)

I live in Saskatchewan, it's cold and snowy here so I wanna do some indoor stuff on the cheap.

-KS

[KnightShift]

Pudder, which ones the pinion?

What does soldering the wires directly do?

-KS

[Eric Gharakhanian]

knightshift soddering the wires directly gives them a better contact than the standard bullet connectors. I don't think It's worth it though because you have to go through the hassel of splicing and re soddering a new wire when you want to change the motor, I would just use a power pole or deans connector if you are concerned. The pinion Is the smaller gear by the way. I don't have an evader but this is just standard stuff.

[2nd Gear]

the wheels from a losi XXT or XXXT work on the Evader.And alot of parts for the XXT from Losi also fit.The slipper pad from a Associated B3orT3 will work instead of the stock piece.Now bodies I dont know Im hopin the new MF XXXT body fits.:D

[pudder]

It would help if I had a picture, but the pinion is the little gear on the motor, that turns the spur gear (the big one). The setscrew in the pinion is the little hex screw that holds it on the motor shaft, and threadlock is stuff you can put on them so they wont fall out or loosen. If you are going to get threadlock, you on't have to, just get some blue strength, red is too much.

Also, NEVER use CA (tire) glue for screws, as you will not be able to get them off later on, I learned this the hard way.

Oh Ya, to get the proper gear mesh, place a little piece of paper in between teh spur and pinion while the motor screws are loosened so you can adjust it. Now squeese the two gears together tight with your hand, and tighten up the motor screws so that it is in place, now pull the paper out of the gears. It also shows how to do this in the start up video I think.

-mike

[EVADER*ST]

i think i overheated the ESC on my evader what do i do now??
I'm only15 and this is my first good r/c. I have had some from like radio shack but they suck compared to the evader and i cant drive my evader HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[pudder]

Hmmm, how come my other reply isn't showing up here...

Pinion is little gear attatched on the motor shaft that turns the bigger one (spur).

Soldering the wires, and not having the connectors will give a better flow of electricity, more power, also sometimes the connectors can get really hot.

-mike

[pudder]

ANYONE WHO WANTS TO PM ME CANNOT DO SO, MY PM SAYS IT IS ALWAYS FULL, AND THERE IS NO MESSAGES IN IT AT ALL. AMYONE WANTIMG TO PM ME WILL HAVE TO SAY IT HERE, OR EMAIL ME.

-mike

[pudder]

Originally posted by EVADER*ST
i think i overheated the ESC on my evader what do i do now??
I'm only15 and this is my first good r/c. I have had some from like radio shack but they suck compared to the evader and i cant drive my evader HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Well I am only 13 and this is about my 4th hobby grade vehicle. That doesn't matter, I am here to help.

If you think you overheated your esc, put your hand on it, if it feels overwarm, then just unplug your truck, or you could wreck your esc. My ESC has only gotten warm when I soldered a wire on the wrong place which I quickly figured out. Make sure your wires arent soldered to the same tabs as the capacitors are. Just let it cool down, and try again later. On my Sprint ESC, it will cut out when the batts get really low. Nothing to worry about.

-mike

[EVADER*ST]

I think i got my problem with my evader moving fixed however i can't check because today my whole frontend fell apart (again) and i gotta replace the front bulk head (again), both shocks, the skidplate (again), and the shocktower (again). Doesn't DuraTrax have an aluminum skidplate??? I think i saw it at tower and i the parts list that comes with it, let me know. See ya

-Tommy

[pudder]

Are all these people driving their trucks out in the cold or something?

On the Evader thread in Electric Forum, someone said that DuraTrax had some kind of defect in the part. You could easily make a new front skidplate.

I don't know how you guys break all this ****, I have barely broken anything, just from being stupid is why I broke some stuff, but it wasn't the front end.

Like I said in a different thread, the Evader has parts meant to flex, and when cold, becoming brittle, thus flex causing them to snap.

-mike

[KnightShift]

I dont think that's the definitive answer, I still think there is some kind of defect with the bulkhead...

I broke my first Evader in above zero weather (32 degrees) with no snow on the ground. Yet, I've been out with my second Evader at -15 (5 degrees) and haven't broke anything... Either way though, I still like my Evader(s) :)

-KS

[pudder]

I may have said this before, but anyways, someone else mentioned that DuraTrax said that the bulkheads had some kind of defect out of factory. I will contact them and see what they have to say.

-mike

[KnightShift]

Here's some pictures of my Evader #2, I mounted my little B&W camera/transmitter on it and it's powered by 8 AA NiMH batteries...

It's a hoot driving around my little appartment watching the TV... :)

http://www.gameserv.ca/radiocontrol/images/P1010001_small.JPG

http://www.gameserv.ca/radiocontrol/images/P1010002_small.JPG

http://www.gameserv.ca/radiocontrol/images/P1010004_small.JPG

http://www.gameserv.ca/radiocontrol/images/P1010005_small.JPG

-KS

[Poolboy51]

That's sweet! You could bring that to the track or the park with a tiny TV and pretend your a fullscale offroad driver! I have an I dea about doing something like this. It's called Real Driver and it would just be a stand and a chair and you put your radio in a slot and then you can steer and go/brake/reverse via pedals and a steering wheel w/ a lil camera on the car!

[EVADER*ST]

Does anyone know the name of that r/c game for pc?? Also the guy at my LHS ordered me a purple aluminum front brace for my purple evader!!!!!! SWEET!!!!!!!!!!!!

[pudder]

Called DuraTrax Real Race. That truck looks neat w/camera. Where are the decals?

-mike

[2nd Gear]

Check this out.I changed my oils in my shocks.It was dailed!I had alot of fun with but I failed to get the slipper just right??I had to use my finger to get her around the track smoothly.I use Losi reds up frnt. and losi pinks out back.25wt frnt-27 1/2 in the back.It works real good.Well then my day went all to hell.In the main (I made the B because I had false peaks and grabbed the wrong battery once) I qualed 7th lowest i done yet with my P2K2pro powered Evader.Im driving and realize my front end is sitting REAL low.Bouncing drifting to the left like mad.So i have the marshall hand it to me and the bottom shock mount broke??????????????It is the piece that connects the shock to the arm so I asked him to put it back on the track and said "what else can go wrong it break on me!!"Well 1 turn and 1 jump later it did just that.Now heres where I get a lil ticked at Duratrax.Why the hell couldnt they put a aluminum hinge pin brace in it!!!!!My god its like they want to replace parts for you for a FULL year.I will be either making a hinge pin brace or seeing if the XXT one fits but oh well Ill be getting my free part.I will reccomend you guys ditch the arm mounts on the shock to RPM Losi pieces.I was lucky to have not bent a shock shaft.Oh yeah The lil plastic hinge pin brace is why you guys/gals are having problems with the bulkheads.Mine is in 3 pieces..It was funny because alot of us guys were talkin about what all we broke today and this thing happened to be my biggest.EVERY BRAND of car broke??????????Go figure.Some cars broke 3 out of 4 heats

[jdm3849]

i agree i broke 3 bulkheads in 3 places. and no i wasnt driving it in freezing weather.

[pudder]

I havent had any problems like these. Course my truck has been sitting on shlef for like 3 weeks, got no where to drive. Well I drove it a bit, but not enough space, I just broke a gearbox case in the proscess because I had some nasty 4 foot jumps smack down hard sideways on cement and hit some things in the air. So I hove no space to drive it, but I will have fun when I do.

-mike

[2nd Gear]

Mike i wasnt able to go to my LHS today but I will probably next weekend.I got a lil girl and I aint taking her out to check up on a part.But if you can get the aluminum hinge pin brace get it before you race it...Now Im worrying about my trans case cause Im hearing more of that breaking..I doubt it.Although im not upset because my bulkhead broke because of my stupidity.But I still cant understand why my shock pivot broke???

[pudder]

What is the alu hinge pin brace? I don't really know the names of parts for this truck yet. I am racing carpet, so unless I get into a bad crash, I don't think there is anything to worry about.

I told DuraTrax to maybe think of making some hard plastic parts for upgrades for racers.


If anyone hasn't seen my Evader Review, here is a link:

http://www.geocities.com/pudder_type_r/evader_rev.html

-mike

[KnightShift]

Just got back from my local carpet track and bought some cool foamies to put on my Evader, it handles alot better now. I love power sliding through the turns!! I'm getting better at avoiding the track barriers too, but sometime I still hit and fly!!

Here's a pic as it looks right now (without the camera gear on it)

http://www.gameserv.ca/radiocontrol/images/P1010003_small.JPG

It's a set of rims and tires from PRO-LINE JACO, 2.2" Street Eliminator Low Profile (for RC10T3 and GT)

-KS

[evaderstrules]

like pudder said where are the decals:confused:

[KnightShift]

I just haven't put them on yet... Guess I've been too lazy! Dunno really, I'll get right on it!

:)

-KS

[2nd Gear]

Hey guys the MF Losi body fits the Evader i tried it.A guy at our track let me try his and it is sweet!His truck looks bad@$$ it is my favorite paint job ever on a truck.I know the painter and I will have him do one for me when its time.

[EVADER*ST]

I asked about the ESC problem and you said It usally cuts out when my batts get really low

pudder what batts, the remote control (transmiter) batts?

[2nd Gear]

He is talking about the batt. in the vehicle..I had a problem like this when my batt. had a false peak.Also your esc WILL shut down if it gets TOO hot.So be careful..:eek:

[pudder]

Ya, your ESC can shut down my getting too hot. Avoid getting it hot. Solder the wires direct, no connectors. I have some Pro-Line/JACO fams for my Evader too, but they are the ones with different rims, I will post a pic.

I like the fact that DuraTrax offers a variety of decals for different bodies, now I can use them on other bods for my Evader. :) I put a DuraTrax decal on my chassis so people won't think it is a Losi.

Though I do want low ground clearance, the foam tires do wear, and thus would make my truck bottom out against the carpet. Otherwise if it was a bit higher with my small shocks, I'd use them, but I don't want to wreck the track, so I am just going to keep stock shocks on there. I have them at lowest setting though.

-mike

[2nd Gear]

Mike has a good point about soldering the wires to the motor direct but I use no-loss connectors (powerpole) from duratrax.They only add a marginal amount of heat but it isnt going to contibute to your esc shuting down.Just another opinion...:D

[pudder]

True, but I like to get an excuse to practice up on my soldering, I have only been sucessfully doing it for about beginning of school year, early September.

People tell me to switch to some better connectors for my batteries than the standard Tamiya style ones, but I haven't had any problems with them.

My truck stays nice and cool.

-mike

[bgjoe976]

i jusgot my truck, and wanted to know what type of off-road tires you guys would reccomend, i am thinkin about pro-line dirt hawgs and/or mashers? What hop-ups should i buy first?:confused:

[Evan]

Im new to RC and was wondering if the Evader ST is good for a beginner? Do you get more for your money? Is it good to race, durable, and dependable? And is it upgradeable? :confused:

Thanks,
Evan

[nascarfreak88]

yes, VERY good for a beginner!!! its an awsome deal!!! if you read through this whole tread i think you will see what i am talking bout........

[pudder]

Bgjoe...
If you wanted to have Masher 2000's, you would want to gear down the pinion to about a 19 or 18 tooth probably. Dirt Hawgs, you can just leave the gearing alone. I would more reccoment Dirt Hawgs or Dirt Works.

Some hop-ups you may want to buy first...

You could get different tires and rims (the tires that it comes with are impossible to get off the rims). There is aluminum hop-ups that you can get. You could also get different colored plastic parts for the truck.

It is highly upgradeable.

Evan...
I am not a beginner, and have one. The Evader ST is targeted towards beginners. It is the best thing out there currently for RTR electric Stadium truck, and you get well worth your money. DuraTrax also has great service, and I live in Canada, and they had my parts back within 2 weeks!

People that have raced the Evader have said they have done very well too, without any upgrades.

I hope this helps both of you.

-mike

[Poolboy51]

I have the money for this car now. I think I'm gonna get it!:cool: :D

[pudder]

Mike and his mom went to the local hobby shop to see a new truck that Mike liked. He wanted it for Christmas, and wanted to make sure he would stand by that opinion.

"Wow, that sure is a good truck for the price," said Mike after his mom and he left the shop.

"Well you know you have enough money for this in your bank account?" replied his mom.

"Really?" asked Mike.

"Yes, we could walk back and buy one," said his mom.

So they walked back to the shop and bought a nice blue truck.

This was a true story.

-mike

[Evan]

Is the Evader St fast? how fast have any of you clocked it at? Is it a sturdy truck? What's the best you've finished with it? Is it a good car, do you get more for you money, and what's your faveorite feature about it? :confused:

Thanks Alot,
Evan

Oh and what is your faveorite charger to use with it when your at the track and at home?

[offroader]

Just wondering if any of you guys know if it's possible to buy a clear evader body unpainted and if so where?

Thanks
Paul

[Buck]

offroader,
there is the site that give your the stock number for painted and unpainted. You should be able to give the number to your hobby shop you deal with and give him the stock number and he will order it for



http://www.duratrax.com/cars/dtxd20d.html

[offroader]

Thanks Buck,

I just checked the product number at Tower Hobbies and they have it available there as well, although it doesn't seem to come with any decals or window masks, but i'm sure I can make due.

Paul

[pudder]

Here is some good news everyone!

Mr. Schlichting,

Hello! I am Jeff Noffsinger, the Development Manager for Duratrax. I received the comment at the bottom of this e-mail from you via our Duratrax webpage.

We are always looking for ways to improve existing products after their initial release. We are looking into this on the bulkhead and several other components on the Evader ST right now.

We would love to offer some stiffer parts for racing. We are also looking into this at this time.

Thank you for taking the time to let us know about your concerns. If you have any further comments, questions, or concerns, feel free to contact me. My contact info is below:

Best Regards,

Jeff Noffsinger
Development Manager - Duratrax
jnoff@hobbico.com
Fax: (217) 398-0008

What I wrote...
*************
Many people have told me that the DuraTrax Evader ST ftont bulkheads are very easily broken. Is there a factory defect in them? DuraTrax should make replacement bulkheads standard for new production Evaders so that people won't experience this problem. Also, DuraTrax should offer some stiffer plastic parts for racers, because people are racing the Evader ST.

Thank you for making a great truck.

-mike

[offroader]

Well I just ordered the clear Evader body from Tower Hobbies and I will psst some pics of it when I finish painting it. I'm thinking of doing some sort of 2 color fade paint job...anyone have an suggestions?

Paul

[Buck]

sounds cool

[navspecwar]

well, you could do flames instead of dinosaurs.:D j/k. i ordered mine today. i ordered the prebuild version, and it didn't give me a body color choice. does anyone know what the prebuilt body looks like? at tower's current shipping time, it should arrive by...JUNE. anything i should know about this truck? like what not to do, or and set up tips?

[Poolboy51]

June???!!!!:eek: You should buy it from your LHS or a different retailer. I'd rather pay $40 and get it in 3 days than save $40 and get it in June!

[pudder]

Hey, I like my tripped out dino's. :p

I start my first race tomorrow with my Evader!

-mike

[Poolboy51]

Kool! good luck! I can't find anybody with Evaders in stock!!:eek: :mad: I have to wait till' next week when I MIGHT be able to get my LHS's new shipment of them coming in:D

[pudder]

I got to pick my Evader the first few days my LHS had them, they had all 6 then, now have like 1 or 2 left.

-mike

[Poolboy51]

how long have you had yours?

[pudder]

I have had mine since about maybe mid-early December. I have only driven it about 5 times though.

-mike

[navspecwar]

that was a little exaggerated, but you get the point. trust me, i would have bought it from my LHS but they closed up shop and moved to mexico.:(

[Poolboy51]

I wonder if a hobby shop was the only "operation" they were running!Hmmmm...........:D ;) j/k:D

[ameittunen]

i took a tooth off of the idle gear. I think it was from going in reverse then going forward fast. owell. I will get that replaced and i am also going to get 2 more batts and a speed gem 19t double for the evader. I am getting brushes for the photon speed motor that is included with the evader becasue one is really, really, really worn down and the other is fine.

[pudder]

If there is one tooth missing, buy another one for spare, because just keep running with the damaged one because only 1 tooth is gone, and more will probably follow, so just buy another one to replace it for when the first one is dead.

-mike

[Poolboy51]

I might get my evader off ebay. They have some really good deals and one guy is selling like 4 evaders and he lives relatively close by!:D

[pudder]

Cool, they are great truck, how much is he selling for?

-mike

[pudder]

I raced my truck today. I got 3rd overall!Had so much fun!

-mike

[navspecwar]

hey poolboy, i think they also ran a laundromat.....:p no, i knew the owners. they were pretty cool.

[Poolboy51]

I'm @ $150 right now, 22 hr's left (I'm Nachoh13). Theres a "BUY IT NOW" for 159.99. Does this guy run a hobby shop cuz if he does I'm gonna see if I can get my Dad to take me up there and get and we'll just skip the shipping charge!:D

Pudder-
I hope it wasn't out of 3 other drivers!:D congrats!

[pudder]

It was out of like 7 others I think.

-mike

[jdm3849]

man,this evader has a skinny chassis, theres like no room for electronics! i just got my futaba 330 and that thing didnt even fit! so i had to dremel out part of the "lip" on the battery tray. now it fits good! I have an mvp...do you think i have any chance in racing? im a pretty good driver, i also got a new blue aluminum front brace and battery strap. im planning on getting a new mod motor, do you think that the speed gems 16 triple is a good deal? thanks if you answer to any of this!:)

[pudder]

Get used to it because all racetrucks have "skinny" chassis. I fit all my stuff on there fine, my ESC is on the shock tower of the rear and my reciever is where the rtr one was.

You have lots of chances to race, and win too. I am not the best driver and beat a whole lot of trucks at my first race, and my truck was stock, except I had a large pinion in.

-mike

[jdm3849]

what batteries where you using? because those batteries in the backround dont look like the kind of batteries that would last 5 minutes not peaked with a 27 tooth pinion! also the t3s chassis is alot wider, my friend can fit his big ipc pro sport with enough room to spare,my futaba is almost 1/2 the size and it still doesnt fit in mine.

[ameittunen]

i'll have to get a couple of pinions for my new speed gem 19t double. i will get one for torque and one for speed.

[pudder]

Okay, I counted the pinion, it is 25 tooth. I was using 1500's and saved a 2000 for last race. BTW I was using a dial charger, and I still had power to spare in those batts.

-mike

[jdm3849]

there must be something wrong with my batts then cause i have a dial charger too and they dont last all that long......ameittunen have you run with that new motor yet? if you have could you tell me how fast it is? and approx. what your run time is? thanx:)

[pudder]

I get enough to lap T3's in the heats and still some power. I charge my 1500's for 25 mins I think.

-mike

[Green-Evader-ST]

Hey Poolboy51,

About the Evader on Ebay. Yea, if it's the one of the ones under timshobby or something close to that. Yep it's a Hobby Shop in Everett Wa, Tims Hobbies. That's where i got my second Evader. Wish i'd seen his 'Buy it now" option on Ebay and I could of saved myself $10.....

They also carry alot of the replacement parts....

[ameittunen]

jdm, i am getting the motor in the mail within the next few day. i wont be able to test the full speed cuz i live in minnesota and it is winter up here.

[Buck]

the stock goes about 25 mph it has been clocked at

[ameittunen]

oh i almost forgot, my dad called tower about the tooth missing on the idler gear and they are sending me all of the gears in the diff

[jdm3849]

ameittunen i live in minnesota too! it got really warm today and the snow melted on the streets so now you will be able to test full speed i hope,because i was thinking on getting a speed gems:D

[pudder]

Same here, except I live out in the country. I felt like charging up a pack and ripping around in the snow, too bad I need to keep it clean for carpet track, and my bearings were in my foamies still and my XR3 wheel was drying because I made it blue.

-mike

[offroader]

Here's some pics of my evader with my F-350 body on it. I'm not sure how to post the pics right in the message so here's the links.


http://photos.onebigvillage.com/pubimage.asp?id_=93471

http://photos.onebigvillage.com/pubimage.asp?id_=93472

http://photos.onebigvillage.com/pubimage.asp?id_=93473

http://photos.onebigvillage.com/pubimage.asp?id_=93474

Paul
:D

[DanzST]

I finally broke down and registered so I could post on this forum. I've been following the discussion for some time. I thought you were all nuts breaking the front bulkhead with such repitition like I was seeing on the forum here. However, it finally happened to me, I was racing my nephew and barely hit the back of his truck at maybe 1/4 throttle and trashed the left side of the front bulkhead. It was about 25 degrees out when it happened. Needless to say the parts are on order from Duratrax right now, I'm very bummed. I thought I was going to be exempt. I need to ask you all, what is the truck that the parts are almost a match with? I want some new wheels/ tires and possibly tougher shocks, any suggestions would help.

[DanzST]

I need to ask another question. Has anybody else noticed that the front a-arms can flex past the where the bulkhead attaches? Point being, is that this allows the truck to "bottom-out" in the front when coming down from a jump, that is if you land front first (not the best way to land). Does anyone have advice on how to "harden" the front suspension so it won't "bottom-out" so easy and the rear for that matter as well?

[DanzST]

O.K. So I've been bored at work today and have had nothing to do today, but try to figure out a way to fix this "bulkhead" problem. I've been looking at the Losi XXT and Evader parts diagram on the net. It appears that they have an almost identical design, however, I'm not sure the XXT has a modular design like the ST or is it one piece? Has anyone tried to put the XXT bulkhead on an ST? Are there any strength problems with the XXT bulkhead? Would you have to switch out the entire front end to get it to work? Gimme some feedback on this one. And yes I'm still getting my work done.

[ameittunen]

i live in hibbinf mn. well the treets are kinda slushy. If the warm weather keeps up, i can test the full speed of the speed gem but it probably wont get dry cuz it will snow agiain i think before it all melts and gets dry but u never know. I can test out the acceleration in my house and the torque of the motor as well.

[Buck]

you can use losi tires,rims any 2.2 rim or tire should fit. I have heard of a guy using the losi front bulkhead and he said how he did it it is in this thread or the other evader st thread under electric forums. I know you can use the losi bodys i think i know the xxx-t mf body fits and looks great

[pudder]

I have yet to break a bulkhead. If you stiffen up your suspension, you can prevent bottoming out in jumps, that simple. I have rammed stuff full throttle, accidently hit a marshall at full throttle in the leg, no damage. I have also hit other trucks, chairs (flew off track) and just crasked the bumper a bit, but I am not going to worry about that.

-mike

[offroader]

I don't think those links I posted earlier worked so here's my evader with my F-350 body(first ever paint job)

[offroader]

another

[offroader]

last one

[Poolboy51]

That Evader I was first bidding on..... I lost. I was ahead for most of it (I thought I would save 9.99) and with 2 minutes left, this guy bids 2.50 more then me!:rolleyes: :mad: :mad: So I was pretty pissed off, so the next day I just went to ones he just put on there and did a "buy it now" even though it had 6 days left on it! It came out to $183 (that's exactly how much money my dad owed me!:D ). He just called and asked wich body I wanted and I got a red one since they didn't have silver ones:( . Oh well... I'm glad I can start driving again!:D :D

[Buck]

nice truck what is that body i'd like to get one

[Poolboy51]

hmmmmmmmmm.........

It says HPI Racing and Ford F350 on it....

I wonder what body it is..................

[pudder]

I like the blue. :D

-mike

[offroader]

nice truck what is that body i'd like to get one


It's the F-350 body from HPI, it's for the Nitro Rush but it fits the evader(just have to get longer body posts).

I also just finished painting another body...it's a Nitro MT-1 body from HPI...here's a pic of the body.

And I've ordered an unpainted Evader body to paint next.


My Gallery (http://www.geocities.com/chap32ca/rcpage.html)

[pudder]

How do you get longer body posts for the evader, they are molded on parts?

-mike

[Buck]

cool paint job what do you mean longer body post

[2nd Gear]

This might be long so bear with me.I know I type big posts.Well I put in a XXT front bulkhead.It needs some triming.At the bottom where the pin goes thru.I havent tried it on the track yet I will on Sat.The XXT blkhd. is different at the top mounting point then the Evaders it has a design that looks like the bottom of the Evaders.So it isnt a direct fit.I used a old shock shaft to put in there to hold on to some zip ties.Now you think oh yeah this is the most dummest thing someone has posted but I am here to tell you it is solid!I was thinking about making a L shaped bracket to mount it like the evader bulkhd. but i gave the ol' trusty zip tie a try first beings it was the quicker solution.Ill give a update after this weekend...Keep your fingers crossed for me????



Now for some really good info for you!!!!!

I had got a titanium topshaft for my FTB3 and also a alum. Idler gear for it also.After I was done with the conversion I figured Ill open up the evaders trans to see how it looks in there.I think you can see where Im goin with this,But I compared the B3 idler with the evader idler and guess what they are the same size!!!!!The only down fall is the bearings are a different size!!!!!!:mad:Now on to the topshaft.I didnt do a good inspection into this but it also looks to be the same size!!I didnt want to totally take it apart but I am going to try this after this race weekend I will let you guys know about it as soon as I can but til then bite your nails like me! :D ;)

[pudder]

Nevermind you :p. I just gonna keep my fingers crossed for myeslf at races. :D Good to see other people experementing.

-mike

[Thor the Mighty]

man this car sounds phat. I have an ST but I'm looking to race electric too. How does this stand up against the t3's?

[pudder]

I got 3rd overall against 3 other trucks, my friend got second, and a T3 got first, then I beat the other trucks were T3's and one a Kyosho, anyways it stands up great!

-mike

[KnightShift]

I'm so bummed!! :(

Last night I took my Evader #2 outside for a little fun since it's sooooo warm here in Regina (unusual for this time of the year, just above freezing), it was dark outside but there was some light from the nearby building. I found a nice little non landscaped area surrounded by sidewalks that was fun to bash around in, lots of ruts and stuff to jump and I was having alot of fun...

Then it happened, cuz it was dark I couldn't quite see clearly and ran almost full speed into the side of the sidewalk head on!!!! argh!!! I broke the left side of the bulkhead, the front bumper and the hinge pin brace...

I'm STILL waiting for parts for my Evader #1 which I broke back on December 16!! So now I have two broken Evaders and no parts to fix either one of them...

I know it wouldn't have broken if it had an aluminum bumper and hinge pin brace...

Hopefully my parts that I ordered back in December will get here soon, then I'll send in my next bunch of broken pieces...

-KS

[Green-Evader-ST]

Knightshift,

I'm the same way, we run ours around at night in a school yard which only has one light. They can get pretty hard to see, so I made up a set of LED lights, red in the rear and yellow front (yellow trying to look like fog lights)... Anyway, much easier to see not to mention that it looks very cool in the dark. I'll try to get some pics this weekend to post.

[rc-dude]

Well, soory if this has been asked before, I didn't feel like reading the whole thread. IS the chasis really got a lot of flex like r/c car action said? If so how much? Can you grab the front and back and bend the chasis? Another question, do you think that peo-lines chevy rustler body will fit it ok?

[Thor the Mighty]

i want to race the evader if i get it. i have a Max ST pretty tricked out but I use that against friends and stuuf.

[pudder]

I am racing this sunday again. :)

That is weird that you don't have your parts. I live in Manitoba, and got my parts in within 2 weeks of sending out.

-mike

[Poolboy51]

Got my car today, finally.:cool: I really got it yesterday but a knuckle broke in shipping so we drove all the way back up there to get it fixed (It's a really cool store) and, since I went to a "social" @ my school, I don't have time to do anything with it:mad: :( . We also finally found the elusive connecting rod for the TRX engine:cool: now I have the pleasure of taking it off and putting it in:rolleyes: oh well. If it happens again I'll just get a new engine:cool:

[Thor the Mighty]

i cant wait until i get my evader. BTW, what is the most common problem you have with it?

[jdm3849]

the most common problem is probally the bulkhead, i broke 3 of them,

[pudder]

No Problems. Well, there is a big problem actually, I just want to keep driving and not stop!.

At my carpet track (racing tomorrow again :)), I had countless rollovers and nothing but me servo damaged.

-mike

[Poolboy51]

I've put three batteries threw it and it's sooo awesome. I love it! No problems. I just wish the ESC would reverse quicker but it is still really awesome. GET 1 GET 1 GET 1 GET 1 GET 2!:D

[bgjoe976]

hey offroader, where did u get the longer body bosts, and how much cash are they?:confused:

[pudder]

Hey I like my Evader.com because it is fun and I drove it outside and but I had a problem with the ESC because maybe the cold, has anyone else had this problems with this?

-mike

[Poolboy51]

Is 45 degrees cold?:rolleyes:

[pudder]

It was like -10 celcius out.

-mike

[nascarfreak88]

Originally posted by bgjoe976
hey offroader, where did u get the longer body bosts, and how much cash are they?:confused:
How do you get longer body posts for the evader, they are molded on parts?
It's the F-350 body from HPI, it's for the Nitro Rush but it fits the evader(just have to get longer body posts).
So where do you get those longer post at?????:confused: :)

[ameittunen]

i got my new speed gem 19t double. I will try it out tommarrow. I also went to a habby shop that is 1hr away and buoght a 21 tooth pinion. I put it on the stock motor and i can tell the diff. in speed. I also put the new idler gear n it too today.

[jdm3849]

i got my new 17 turn speed gems sapphire last night and some dirt hawgz for the back. too bad im still waiting for the 2 bulkheads i ordered from tower,and three parts im still waiting for from duratrax.i have one question, the motor came with 3 capacitors and i would like to know where i solder them to,thanks

[ameittunen]

i tried out my 19t, man is that thing wild. It has more torque than the stock motor and like ten times faster with the 21 tooth pinion. With the 18 tooth pinion, all i had todo was push the back end down and it would ride whellies. Jdm yours is a single, mine is a doulbe, so yours should do wheelies from standing still with out any help. Jdm, for the capictors go to www.team associated.com/pdf/solder_caps.pdf that wevsite tells you where to put them and how to put them on.

[ameittunen]

whoops, that got screwed up here it is again. www.teamassociated.com/pdf/solder_caps.pdf

[offroader]

So where do you get those longer post at?????

Tower Hobbies has them

body posts (http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p.pgm?Q=1&I=LXD243&P=7)

They come in black or white and a couple different sizes.

Paul

[DanzST]

I sent an e-mail to Duratrax the other day about the bulkhead problem. A guy by the name of Jeff Noffinger, in research and development, wrote back saying they realize there is a bulkhead problem. He stated that they are working on an aluminum upgrade that should be available shortly. I too have parts on order from Duratrax. They told me they would be in yesterday, I called and the delivery date is pushed back to January 25th. Talk about bumm'in. I started to throw a bit of a fit on the phone and the girl offered me any extra part I wanted. I asked what else had been coming in broken and she told me it was the front suspension arms, so she is sending a pair of those as well. So, give them a call, act ticked that the parts aren't in, and get some more stuff for free. Worked for me.

[offroader]

When a part breaks, do you have to send the broken part back before they replace it for you?

[DanzST]

Offroader, I haven't yet been asked to send any of my parts back in order to get new ones. I just gave them my name and where the truck was bought and they ordered them.

[offroader]

you just call Duratrax and tell them what broke and what hobby shop you got it at and they send the parts? Do they send them to your house or to the hobby shop?

[DanzST]

Offroader, the girl took my name and my address and said they would send the parts directly to me. I know it sounds kind of "too good to be true." So I said the same thing to her. Her explaination is that, because they have had SO many calls about the same thing they are just "trusting" their customers. The reason you have to send the parts in according to the manual, is because they like to examine them to find out what is wrong. She said they have gotten so many parts in with the same basic problem, they don't want anymore to look at. I was looking on the electric forum and a hobby store owner that had written stated he had heard from Duratrax that they had gotten a "bad batch of plastic." And that was the reason for all the failures. Believe it or not Duratrax does not make these parts themselves, they purchase the individual parts from another manufactuer and put it together as the truck. The girl on the phone said that the manufacturer can't supply all the parts to build new trucks as well repair all the broken ones being ordered. How's that for "big business?" The guy that I talked to at R&D at Duratrax said that they do monitor forums like this to see what is happening with their product. If you look on page 2 or 3 of this forum, a guy from Duratrax offered a reply.

Dan

[offroader]

Cool, thanks Dan.

Since everyone seems to be breaking the same thing on their Evaders, maybe since everyone is having to wait so long to get the replacement part I'll just order the part now with the assumption it will eventually break and I'll be able to replace it right away.

[pudder]

Well this week at my track I had bad luck. My ESC failed, I had to solder another one on, and had no practice time.

Then the races, well I didn't charge my batteries full so they dumped before race ended.

Steering servo horn broke, I had to sit out a heat to fix.

Now the sad part is, all 3 guys in the non smoking section of the pits, all had tourbles wiht racing today.

At least I had fun. :)

I am going to have to call DuraTrax and complain to them to give me a new ESC because I was using mine fine, and it stopped working completely on me, and my batts were fine.

-mike

[ameittunen]

here are some pics with my evader jumping with my new speed gem 19t double motor.

[ameittunen]

heres the other.

[jdm3849]

stop it!, your making me want to drive my evader!:D

[ameittunen]

did you got ot the website i told you to go to. If you ever come up to hibbing we should drive evaders together at the local bmx track which would be wild for our evaders

[jdm3849]

yeah i did,im not a pro at soldering so my dad did it for me, the only bmx track that i know of is in st.michael,back when i didnt know how much fun rc cars there were lots of people with cars and it looked like it would be lots of fun to get some big air!

[pudder]

I just ordered a blue front skidplate for my evader, and steering parts.

There is some pics of my Evader here: www.geocities.com/midcanadarcautoracing I think that is the right URL.

I want to go drive my evader again. Next sunday.:rolleyes:

BTW, you need togo to indoor pictures to see the pics.

Check out my Grave Digger Evader. Actually it isn't my body, I just took it from some guy near me when he was away and put it on for a picture, he brought the body for to show us.

-mike

[offroader]

Hey Guys, I'm currently building an R/C web page and was wondering if I could use some of the pics of your Evaders?

Also if anyone has any more and would like them on my site post them, I'll make sure you get credit for them

Thanks

[Buck]

offroad u live in london where do you shop i shop at avf in london do you know of a place to race your cars in london

[pudder]

Give me your email address and I will give you all of my good Evader pics to use on your site. :)

-mike

[offroader]

offroad u live in london where do you shop i shop at avf in london do you know of a place to race your cars in london

Ya I get my stuff through AVF as well...Small World. Right now they are racing Nitro indoors at a place called Fosket every Sunday. Check out the web site LRCRC (http://www.londonrc.com/) go to the forums section you'll find lots of stuff there about racing in London.

Paul
:D

[jeff67]

Hey Pudder, I don't know what happened to your ESC or if
you tried this but the ESC can " trip out" like a circuit breaker
and needs to be reset. Check your manual or your START UP
VIDEO for what to do.


JUST A SHOT:confused:

[pudder]

Offroader, you have about 13 or so of my Evader pics there, take all that you want. :D

I guess I could try reseting my esc, I liked it a lot better than my LRP Runner. I just think it was fried or something, I will solder it back on tonight and try.

-mike

[offroader]

Offroader, you have about 13 or so of my Evader pics there, take all that you want.

Thanks

When I get the site done I'll post the link.

[pudder]

Does anyone here have MSN? I always like to talk to rc people on the net.

-mike

[evaderstrules]

Hey pudder I have MSN

[Buck]

post your e-mail

[evaderstrules]

JOYCEAZJJ@MSN.COM

[Buck]

i think he msn hotmail so you can send messages

[jdm3849]

im getting sick of waiting for my bulkhead from duratrax and tower so could you tell me how to put a losi one on? which one should i get, the xxx-t?,also should i get a front brace? sorry for the trouble because i was going to go to the track tomorrow and practice,if you have a pic could you show me? if you dont want to do that on this forum just e-mail me @ jdm3849@aol.com

[pudder]

Wow man, bad luck on that eh. I haven't broken bulkhead yet. The XXXT is different, the XXT is the one that will fit. Once/if I have a problem with it, that is when I will get a new bulkhead.

Does anyone here remember/know how to set the ESC, my video it at a friends house.

I have some big relay race thinger coming up on the 27'th, there is more info: http://www.geocities.com/midcanadarcautoracing

-mike

[jdm3849]

nevermind,i dont need info on how to put xxt bulkhead on,my two bulkheads and a body mount are proccesing in office:D i cant wait to bring it to the track......pudder,1.set the throttle trim of the transmitter at neutral,2.turn the transmitter on,3.turn electronic speed control on,4.squeeze the throttle trigger all of the way and hold it for 2 seconds,5.push the throttle trigger to full reverse and hold it for 2 seconds,6.return the throttle trigger to neutral. The green LED should turn on after a few seconds.7.The speed control will hold the setting until it is reset.8. If the speed control did not set up repeat the steps

[pudder]

Thanks dude.

-mike

[Poolboy51]

I broke my front bulkhead. I also broke the front shock tower and a few other pieces. I was going only 4-9 mph at the most!:mad: :eek: I must've just hit the basketball hoop weird. I took a picture of the carnage. I was gonna race this weekend but I guess I'll just wait till next week.:mad: :rolleyes: :(

[pudder]

And why were you driving into a hoop?

-mike

[Poolboy51]

I guess I was practicing my 3-point!:D

Really, I was driving my car in my cul-de-sac and it hit the base of our basketball hoop.:mad:

[pcwhite]

hey would anyone buy a carbon fiber double deck chassis if they made one for the evader?

[Poolboy51]

the real question is..............why?

[pudder]

I would buy one, though you don't need to have DOUBLE deck. I would rather just have hard plastic, I think DTX is working on it now.

-mike

[Poolboy51]

aggreed!:D

[pudder]

No, seriously, the product manager, he told me that they want to make some harder plastic parts and that they were in the proscess I think.

-mike

[pudder]

Hello,

Thank you for your recent e-mail.

There are no plans for stiffer plastic optional parts for the Evader at this point in time that I am aware of. There are some aluminum optional parts coming out for the Evader in the future, but I do not have a date for when they will be available. I can provide a list of what I know of currently.

DTXC6613 FRONT BRACE ALUMINUM BLUE EVST
DTXC6614 FRONT BRACE ALUMINUM PURP EVST
DTXC8071 HUB REAR ALUMINUM BLU (2) EVST
DTXC8072 HUB REAR ALUMINUM PRP (2) EVST
DTXC8221 KNUCKLE ARM ALU BLU (2) EVST
DTXC8222 KNUCKLE ARM ALU PRP (2) EVST
DTXC6294 BATTERY STRAP ALUM BLUE EVST
DTXC6295 BATTERY STRAP ALUM PURPLE EVST
DTXC8032 HUB CARRIERS ALUM BLU (2) EVST
DTXC8033 HUB CARRIERS ALUM PRP (2) EVST
DTXC9640 TRANS BRACE RE ALUM BLUE EVST
DTXC9641 TRANS BRACE RE ALUM PURPL EVST

We do not sell retail, however you could contact Tower Hobbies @ 1-800-637-6050, or (217)398-3636.
They have a full inventory of all our products, and can ship anywhere in the world.
They may be able to back order these for you as well.
If you prefer you can visit the web site
www.towerhobbies.com

Hope this answers your questions

Sincerely,
Phil
Product Support


This is weird because I swear the Product Developer Manager told me that they were thinking of making some hard plastic parts.

-mike

[jdm3849]

i put the 17 turn speed gem motor, 7-cell 1700,and a 15 tooth pinion that is going to go on my evader in my friends t3 to see how good that combination is,it was awesome,this thing had almost TOO MUCH torque,it had a pretty good top speed too, the battery was peak charged and it lasted 7min going full throttle,i cant wait to get my bulkhead on tues. so i can practice @ my local track!btw,my aluminum front brace has been on order at tower FOREVER,have fun with your EVADERS!:D

[jdm3849]

cool,if i had a digi camera i would post lots of pics,hope you get my e-mail:)

[offroader]

sorry my email was down, you'll have to send it again.

[jdm3849]

:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :

[pcwhite]

I was just wondering I built this for my rustler.
http://www.white-racing.com/pic/Jan17_18.JPG


http://www.white-racing.com/pic/Jan17_21.JPG

[jdm3849]

you were wondering what? by the way,thats so fixed up it doesnt even count as a rustler;)

[jdm3849]

nevermind pcwhite,i read the top of the forum and i get what your saying;)

[Poolboy51]

No bulkhead??????????!!!!!!!!!!

[nascarfreak88]

hey was the wheel base shortened on that???? it seems kind of "compact".............

[pcwhite]

yeah A little

[pudder]

What the hell is a Rustler doing in here!? Damn people! Those servos really piss me off too! About 3 people including me had troubles with our servos. One guy stripped his, anothers died, and mine died just in time for the main. :mad: GRRRRRR! So I put a JR servo in and that better hold! I know what would make me feel better, to take that old servo, and smash it with a sledgehammer! Except I should keep the gears, and the good parts.

Anyways, besides that I had an absoloute blast. The first race, I rolled my truck so much, a bit too tight in the turns, and it flipped over most of the time. The second race, my truck barely moved at the end because my pack wasn't charged enough, and third race, I was great driver, and improved my overall average speed by almost 1 mph.

-mike

[Poolboy51]

Originally posted by pudder
What the hell is a Rustler doing in here!? Damn people!

I think he was just trying to show us what he means by a double-deck graphite chassis.:rolleyes:

[Poolboy51]

Oh yeah, what's Duratrax's phone #? I need to get my parts':rolleyes:

Thanx!:D

[pudder]

I don't know the number, but I emailed them again today to see if I can get something out of them towards stiff plastic parts or graphite ones.

-mike

[nascarfreak88]

DUDE!!!!! TOWERHOBBIES IS on MAJOR back-order!!!! i went to there site like a week ago, and it said "in stock-late Jan" well now i went back there yesterday and it now says "LATE FEB"!!!! i also called tower a week ago and they said the people whose on the back-order list will get them in two weeks and i called them back yesterday and they have no idea now!!!!!

[Poolboy51]

I've heard people say they were going to get them in July!:rolleyes: :eek: People should just buy it from a guy on e-bay like I did!:D :cool:

[Green-Evader-ST]

That's who I got mine from. He's a reputable hobby shop. I've not been in for a few weeks, but last time i was in, he had lots of the replacement parts too. Those waiting for parts might try to see what he's got in stock. You can get the phone # from www.timshobbies.com

And no, I'm not affiliated with this place, just been very happy with their service. :p

[pudder]

Okay Everyone, GOOD NEWS!

I get a reply from the product development manager himself, Jeff Nosinger, and this is what he had to say:

Mr. Schlichting,

Hello. I am Jeff Noffsinger, the Development Manager for Duratrax. I received the comment at the bottom of this e-mail from you via our webpage.

We would like to offer graphite/nylon composite parts for the Evader and this is something that we are working on now. I cannot predict at this time when we will be able to get them here for sale - it is too early in the development process right now. Hang in there with us and we will deliver some nice optional parts for your Evader.

Thank you for taking the time to let us know what kinds of optional parts that you would like us to come out with. This really helps me with the decision making process of what to do next. If you have any further comments, questions, or concerns feel free to contact me. My contact info is below.

Best Regards,

Jeff Noffsinger

-mike

[jeff67]

O.K. dudes,check this out. On 12/26/01 I ordered my front
bulkhead from Hobbytown U.S.A. ( my L.H.S. and where I
purchased my Evader ) ... ain't seen it!! On 1/06/02 I placed
an order for the same parts from Tower... don't need to tell
ya " what's up " there! But, on1/07/02 , the next day, I mailed
my broken parts to Durratrax for my free replacement parts,
and they arrived yesterday, 1/22/02. So hang in there, they
really do make parts for the Evader!:rolleyes: :D

[pudder]

Okay, I think DuraTrax is pretty sure on producing these parts. Here is a reply I got from Jeff Nosinger this morning from a mail I sent him yesterday:

Mike,

Unfortunately, I do not have any parts that I cen send out. The one's I have received were VERY costly to prototype and I have to keep these for our R&D department, where the test conditions are controlled very carefully. We have to squeeze as much testing out of each part as we can.

Hang tight. We'll have some conclusions soon and I should be able to implement some changes.

Best Regards,

Jeff

This is sounding good. I also emailed him about 10 mins ago asking what parts they are planning on making, so I will just keep you all updated when the info comes.

-mike

[offroader]

Hey guys,

I was just wondering if anyone has put a set of the HPI MT Mesh Wheels on their Evader? I purchased some today and put the rear ones on ok, but when I went to put the front ones on they don't fit. I had to use this little adapter thing that came with the rear wheels to get them on, but nothing like that came with the front wheels.

Anybody have any idea how to get them on?

Thanks

Paul

[pudder]

Yes, the rear ones fit, I had to drill out the little plastic adapter a bit to fit the bigger axle, because my adapters were smaller. The front ones I bought, on the package, it said on the top "Fits Losi XXT". I had trouble getting the front bearings in at first, but they work.

-mike

[pudder]

Mike,

It is very early in the process. At this point we do not know what material we will be using. We have test shots of many different ones. I cannot tell you the specific materials we are trying. This is proprietary information. We want to use a material that can be used to mold any part. I cannot even attempt to predict a release date - we are at the beginning of the development cycle. Hang in there....

Thanks,

Jeff

>>> <N1tr0p1ec0@aol.com> 01/23/02 10:27AM >>>
Could you please tell me what parts for the truck is DuraTrax working on for
the stiff plastic? Are they using graphite, or just stiffer compound plastic?
Also, do you know when/if DuraTrax is expecting to release the parts to
suppliers?

Any information will be greatly appreciated, Thank You,

Mr. Schlichting

-mike

[package62]

i want 1 but i want all the bugs worked out 1st or the upgrades
that u can buy l and i dont want to to keep on ordering parts all the time it gets old thats like itsounds to me but i will buy 1 when u can buy the upgrades

[pudder]

I have not had any of these "bugs" as you call them, that other people have had. You can order the upgrades they have now for the Evader, but I think they might be on backorder. I know I ordered a blue bumper from my track, and it is on backorder. I am mostly waiting for the hard plastic parts to come out.

-mike

[DanzST]

I just checked at Tower and they have the parts in stock. I didn't order online. I called them direct and ordered 2 of them. They are supposed to arrive by the 29th, we'll see.

Dan

[DanzST]

And no they aren't the aluminum or graphite ones either. Sorry.

Dan

[pudder]

What are you buying? We don't know unless you tel us. :confused:

Oops,sorry , it says there.

-mike

[Green-Evader-ST]

Great. Duratrax said they'd be getting parts in on the 25th, maybe this means they got them in, and will be sending out the warranty replacements soon! :D

[jdm3849]

i just got my parts on tuesday from duratrax and tower at the same time:heres what i got from tower:2 bulkheads a brace and a front body mount,duratrax:a brace bulkhead and front body mount.i dont have to worry about crashing now,im still waiting for my aluminum blue front brace

[jeff67]

Hey dudes, any of you know what wheels fit the EVADER without
any modifications??:confused:

[pudder]

Yes, Losi rims will fit, so will T3 ones, though I had to drill out my axle holes for the Evader's, those were on T3 rims though.

-mike

[jdm3849]

i want some good lookin rims,like the chrome agitators or something

[pudder]

Yes, those are nice looking rims. I might be buying like 12 pairs of tires and 8 pairs of rims from some guy at my track if he lets me off with a good price.

Otherwise, I would just scrap my Evader tires and rims once they are too worn out and buy some blue dish rims, and Pro-Line tires.

-mike

[jdm3849]

oops! just about five minutes ago i was driving my evader with its 17 turn and dirt hawgs,it was fun until the tire came off slightley(wasnt glued)and landed directly on it-the result-bye,bye,rim!

[pudder]

He he. :)

The reason I was saying scrap my Evader rims and tires after they are done for because the tires are impossible to get off!

What happened to the rim?

-mike

[offroader]

Hey dudes, any of you know what wheels fit the EVADER without any modifications??

The MT Mesh Wheels from HPI fit, although you have to put the rear ones on both the front and back...but they work and sure are nice looking!

[offroader]

Holy, Tower Hobbies sure does charge alot for shipping. It would cost $16.99 US to have something shipped to me here in Ontario...thats over $27 Canadian just for shipping!!

[pudder]

What are you talking about, the rear rims don't have any bearings for them. Your rims have bearings in them, thus requiring bearings for them, which I used, and I use the rear for the rear, front for front. I had to bore out the axle hole for the large axle for it to fit, but now it works fine.

-mike

[offroader]

Pudder,

I don't understand your post...just for the record I don't know much about any of this(i'm sure you can tell). Are you saying that the front rims have bearings in them which means you can't use rear rims in the front?

[pudder]

Lol@offroader, yes. If you look in the front rims, there is little metal things called "bearings" in them, if you use rear rims on the front, you don't have bearings in the rims, this creating friction, and I dont even really know what you did, just tell me how your wheels are setup.

-mike

[offroader]

well I just put a pair of rear HPI MT Mesh Wheels on the front because the front MT Mesh Wheels didn't fit properly and the rear ones come with a little adapter thing that makes them fit. I wasn't aware of the bearings thing...i'm guessing that "friction" probably isn't a good thing is it?

[pudder]

In this hobby, no friction is usually BAD, unwanted. You are supposed to use the front wheels in the front with bearings, and the back wheels in the back with the adapters.

-mike

[offroader]

So would you say I shouldn't use the rear wheels in the front, or do you think I'll be ok?

also how tight are you suppose to tighten the nut on the wheels? should you tighten it as tight as it will go?

Thanks for all your help Mike, it's nice for someone who doesn't know that much about this stuff to be able to get some help like this.

Thanks
Paul

[RichieRich]

Low friction is good. High friction is bad.

[KnightShift]

I bought a set of foamies/rims that are all notched for the back drivetrain, I used them on the front too.. All I do is put some good grease onto the mounting bolt and make sure it turns good... works for me..

Technically, you should use front wheels with bearings, but if all else fails, do like I did... grease them up good.... :)

PS: dont tighten them too snug on the front or they wont turn, grease or no grease.. just snug them up enough that they dont wobble too much, but still turn freely.. when I did that to mine, with the grease, I spun the wheels and they spun for a few seconds or more before stopping. If you tighten them up too much, they wont turn...

-KS

[pudder]

If you get some Jaco/Pro-Line faomies for the T3, they will fit, just need to drill out the rears to the size of the axle. Especially if you are racing, friction is important to reduce as much as possible.

-mike

[evaderstrules]

here is the setup i am going to do when i get my evader
novak rooster
trinity speed gems 16 turn triple
rpm rims
pro line speed hawgs
duratrax 2400 battery

what do you think

and what pinion should i get

riche rich, no friction is good, any friction is bad

[offroader]

problem is I won't be racing on carpet, our indoor racing is on concrete so I've got a set of Speed Hawgs tires from Pro-line and the Chrome MT Mesh Wheels from HPI (pictured below). I think I'll try what Knightshift said and grease them up real good. Is the reason you don't want friction because it's better for racing if you don't have it or will it damage the truck?

They look REALLY good on my truck...I'll post some pictures when i get some taken.

[RichieRich]

evaderstrules - you're right. BUT, it's impossible to completely eliminate friction so, low friction is good. No friction is a dream.

[evaderstrules]

offroader, it's kinda both, you have bearings to cut down on the friction on the front axles.

my friends radio shack car, that i race, has plastic busings in the wheel instead of metal ones or bearings, there was so much friction on the axle, it snapped

[pudder]

The reason is because after time, your rims will ware down, and so will your axles, mostly your rims because your axles are metal and rims plastic. You will be able to wobble, or move your rims with your hand once they get worn down a bit, and this will decreace driving ease, and create slop. After many years, even the bearings will probably ware down in the rims, or the axles, but after many, manyyears.

Less friction=easier moving parts=faster moving parts=less heat=more effeciant=better performance. :D

If I could, I would take back your rims, and buy some front ones, and use the bearings, you will be a lot better off that way.

-mike

[pudder]

Evaderstrules-That is quite funny, why would you race a raidoshack car, they are not even allowed at my track, and they are so incredibly slow.

My friend at the track has a Kyosho Ultima, not the R one, just the RTR one, and I don't think he had bearings, and he just put a new stock motor in, and went out driving at lunch, and his axle snapped, I just had to laugh.

-mike

[evaderstrules]

i am racing it and wining with it
iam racing with it because at the track i am racing at the owners are doing a points thing kinda like nascar does. at the end of the season, around march, they with give the racers store credit.the more races you race and the more races you win the more credit you get.
so by the time i get my evader, it will probably be late febuary, and i will not be able to get first.
i have only lost twice with the radio shack car, and in the lead points wise

so what do you think of my set up i will be using and what pinion

[pudder]

How do you WIN with a radioshack car?

-mike

[Green-Evader-ST]

Check this out on the DuraTrax web site.

http://www.duratrax.com/techsupport/evader-support.html

I just found it listed on another forum.

[pudder]

Wow, you don't need to even send in your parts, I'm sure they're going to get a few people ripping them off, you could get extra parts for free!

-mike

[offroader]

Since those MT Mesh Wheels probably aren't a good idea to use because of the whole bearings thing...does anyone know of any wheels that would work on the Evader? I'm looking for something that looks kinda like the MT Mesh ones...I'm not a big fan of the solid color wheels like the ones that come with the Evader.

[pudder]

If you listened to my posts I said that THE MT MESH RIMS WILL WORK ON THE EVADER ST FOR THE FRONT WITH THE BEARINGS. All you have to do is buy the CORRECT rims, the front ones, and pop your bearings into them!

Someone listen to me ! :mad:

-mike