AE T3 Forum v1.0

[RC10DS99]

This is the official forum for all T3 ownwers. Post pic's, tip's and cool stuff about your T3!!!

[Isky]

I have a T3 FT. Its awesome...heres my bad electronics setup...
ESC: Novak Fusion, soon Novak Cyclon
Batts: Trinity Sanyo 3000mah Pro Pack (these stupid batts run less then 9 minutes a piece...dont buy em, they are JUNK!!!. one runs about 9 minutes, the other runs 7.5 minutes with half voltage of what it should be!!!)
Motor: Team Orion Chrome RS
Servo: Crappy JR standard servo that cant turn my car. Stripped the gears on my HS605, so...im strapped for cash. upcoming
I also cut my motor's comms with a nail file, and an X-acto knife...very nice. I also cut my brushes in a certain patern and i had almost doubled my torque and RPM shot up...but, brushes wear down fast.



[This message has been edited by Isky (edited 03-26-2001).]

[RC10DS99]

I have a Updated Team T3; It has a Novak Fusion ESC, using Trinity Sanyo 2400 matched cells, Futaba 2PCKA (AM) want to get an FM someday, a Trinity D4 15x2, and standard Futaba servos.. want to upgrade to metal gear servos someday also.

[Isky]

Nice setup DS...I want to buy a Cyclone, metal gears for my 605BB servo, and a Hitec/RCD Lynx 3D FM. In my opinion best radio for cars. Dang m8's aren't worth it...they cost too much and their battery life is super low. Like i said, lynx...

[This message has been edited by Isky (edited 03-06-2001).]

[space_doc]

Well, I didn't realize AE had its own forum. I have an updated team T3 running with an LRP F1 Pro, Speed Gems 13T, and a Futaba 2PB (yes, B, not C!) I just got back in to RC'ing after a 10 year hiatus. I'm using my old pistol grip from back in the day. Stock servo that came with it too. It runs pretty nice so far but I haven't really raced or tested it out because of the winter weather. I took it out once and the ground was still wet from some melted snow. Everything inside was layered in water. I had it pretty well weather proofed though so its OK.

[RC10DS99]

Hey guys... i'll have pic's of my T3 on here asap so stay tuned hehe.

[Isky]

I am hoping to upgraed my car with a Cyclone, Reedy 12turn Ti motor, and a Hitec lynx 3D fm. Can't wait...

[RCJunkie]

First one is a street machine. Trinity 16-3 with 2 speed tranny, 2000 match cells, Novak Racer EX ESC, and HITEC high speed servo, riding low on chrome RPM clawz with Road rage 2 tires. Body is clean metallic purple.
The other is also a team car and has a Chameleon motor, Novak Rooster, Hitec 645 BB MG servo on Dirt Hawg tires for some ground clearance in my yard.
Can't think of what the gearing on either of them is off the top of my head.

T3's Rule http://www.rccaraction.com/ubb/smile.gif

[TC3 Benjammin]

My Team T3 has the following:

Novak Cyclone TC ESC
Tininty 14T mod motor
Matched 2K cells

Man, this thing flies! Well, used to. The problem is that when I rebuilt the diff (thrust bearing), I lost one of the diff balls. I didn't think it would make that much of a difference so I assembled everything minus the one diff ball. Now the thing is slow as crap. I can't belive that one ball did all that! Any experience with this?

[Isky]

hey, that ball is there for a reason...try Acer Racing differential balls...they are much stronger, accelerate better, and have a higher speed.
- Isky

[Isky]

Just bought a new Hitec Lynx 3D FM radio for my T3, new servo gears, Dean's ultra plugs, and a bunch of servo accesories!!!!!! Best radio ever!
- Isky

[RC10DS99]

hey.....raced my T3 last week and busted two of my standard servos in 2 days. so i upgraded to a metal gear servo. holds up good now.

[Isky]

ABout a few weeks before i busted a bulkhead, top plate, and several other parts...(one of them was a graphitetop plate)I replaced them last friday/monday and i broke my top plate again. Next time im not buying another graphite unit. Dang thing couldnt stand a full speed blow to a metal post.
- Isky

[Isky]

Guys...I have a HUGE problem with building the shocks. I never get the proper amount of oil in...there is always too little or too much rebound!! Can you guys give me better instructions?? I just ordered trinity's shock bushings for the T3, and they look good...but do they help any?
-Isky

[Elusive]

ok fill your shocks with oil.. and let them sit upright for about 10 mins.. to let all the little air bubbles out.. then fill it almost to the top. put the cap on for the shock body. then in your hand compress the shock shaft all the way down, with the shock shaft upright.. it should only rise about 1/2 inch.. if it dose more then that, drain a TINY bit of shock fluid. and tighten the cap and try again.. If it dosent rebound at all at a bit of fluid.

Oh about that Hitec 3D I have some questions.
on tower hobbies it says u need a recever battery is that true?
Tower Hobbies "This version of the Lynx 3D DOES NOT come with any servos or a
receiver battery."
do u need one or is that for cars with mechenical ESC or Gas Cars.. thx..

oh also did u get the SPECTRA TX Module
it says u can change the Frequency on the back of it.

It also says that it comes with Four Frequency crystals? dose that mean that u have 4 crystals for your reciver, And your transmitter dosent require crystals u just change it with the Spectra thingy..

catch u later bro

[Elusive]

Also Isky do U have a Duratrax Intellipeak Charger if not thats your problem in your 3000mah cells not hitting 10-12 min runtimes.

late

[This message has been edited by Elusive (edited 04-12-2001).]

[Elusive]

dose your Lynx 3D fell comfortable? and Balanced.

U see ive been outa R/C for awhile and I think Iam gona get back in the game.
Proly gona get a RC10T3 Factory Team.
LRP ICS 7.1 ESC. Lynx Raido, Futaba High speed servo. P2k Stock Motor, D4 13turn Triple. Duratrax IntiliPeak Charger and 4-5 3000Mah Cells.

I got my tower hobbies bill up to $1300 :P
just havent Proceeded with it yet :P

[This message has been edited by Elusive (edited 04-12-2001).]

[Isky]

Sorry I haven't answered your questions...Okay, I love my Lynx3D FM. I bought the standard version(but all of your questions were correct about it). The radio is super easy to operate, you do NOT need to buy batteries for the transmitter, but if you run nitro cars you will need to buy batts for the reciever...since you have a T3 you dont need to buy any batts. The radio is very light and balance is awesome too. By the way, the transmitter batteries last a long time. The radio has many features that other radios don't have(airtronics M8). EX. Your at a big ol' race, and you just put in a new servo, so you have to reset EPA, and trim. Unfortunetly, you can't turn on your radio, because you are in the pits...(usually) you can't turn on the radio untill you are on the track, your time to race. uh oh...that is, unless you have the Hitec lynx 3D FM. You plug a lead into your radio, and one into the receiver. The radio doesn't put out any signal, and you can still set everything up...without putting out a signal.(thats why you cant use your radio until you are up to race). Now your car is properly set, and you will have an advantage over Brian Kinwald, becuase his radio doesn't have this feature...likewise for almost every other racer out there. This feature is refered to as DSC(Direct servo control. You can set trims and EPA, EXPO, IDLE-UP, etc. without the radio putting out a signal) Thats just one of the great features the radio has. You can also adjust the servo sensitivity in two different zones...email me and I'll explain it.

It's a great radio, and you will gain an edge over anyone who doesn't have one of these.

The radio with the Spectra Module is great too. all you have to do in order to change your channel is turn a dial...there are two dials(so you get 30 different channels). These are all for the 75mhz frequency. it saves you money because you will only need one crystal(for receiver) and time because you wont have to install two crystals, just one. If you buy the new Novak Receiver XXtra, you will never need another crystal again...yup, thats right...never again. Just turn a dial on the radio, turn a dial on the receiver and your set. Email me and I'll tell you more about the radio...too much to list.
-Isky FTT3@aol.com :)

[Elusive]

did u rebuild your shocks how did that come out?

[Isky]

I rebuilt my rear shocks...slightly better. I think I may need to replace the springs.
Well, what do you think of the Hitec lynx 3D FM?
-Isky

[Elusive]

it looks like a killer system Ill probably end up getting that transmiter, and maybe that Novak reciver that looks prety sweek system. I checked it out on hitec's website and it looks like they got all aspects of racing into that system.. but how dose the Transmiter run with no battries??? dose it use the cells in your RC car then or do u need battries for your reciver?

[Isky]

You mean DSC(direct servo control)? It runs off of something, and it allows you to set your car up...ESC, steering, whatever...you can drive the car with it aslong as you can run as fast as your car...the lead isnt very long. All that the DSC is designed to do is to allow you to work on your car without having to wait for your next main. It wont make any difference if you are working on your car with no one around. At race tracks you are allowed to turn the radio on only at certain times-usually when its your time to go race. Thats why DCS is so good.
-Isky :cool:

[SirSpeedy]

The M8 has DSC. So does the 3PJ, 3PJS, , KO EX-1 and the Jr R-1.

[juan24]

Just got my FTT3.
Got a Dually speedo,XXL Fm, MVP motor,Integy 16X2v2.5,Integy sanyo 3000mah.
Also put in RR, ti top shaft,light weight slipper kit,and light weight outdrives.

Cant wait to race it when I get back home.
Anybody form Houston who races at M&M Hobby Center?

[juan24]

I was wondering if any one had this problem with their T3, Looks like one of my front inline axles is just a little wide. I put the front wheel on and I have to froce it in plus it doesnt go all the way in. Plus the inside bearing gets stuck on the axle.

I got only six post so far. :D hehehe

[Isky]

Juan, call up AE and they'll send you a free replacement. Maybe even a wheel.
-Isky

[HauntedMyst]

Hi All,
I need some help. I have a FT T3 that I tried on road racing this weekend with disasterous results. I lowered the reat so the shocks are mounted on the arms and got 2.2 truck slicks on all four corners (they are terrible but look VERY cool1)

I had no where near enough steering and the truck was constantly spinning out, even when I switched to the treaded on road tires. Any one have any suggestions?

[ilovemygt]

i just got a t3 today i want to start racing what batteries should i get iam gonna race so i need a stock motor to what should i get my limit is 100.00

[HauntedMyst]

I have a Team Orion Chrome Stock RS stock motor and I love it. The most important thing is never buy a Trinity motor, since their customer service stinks. As for batteries, your budget isn't that much so I would recommend searching on Ebay. You will probably need at least 3.

[gacjr0]

I wish I had a T3 to talk about.

[machinehead]

So what is a good motor/gear combo for a dirt track with lots of jumps and tight corners?

[Railman]

Machinehead, What motor?

[machinehead]

I have a fantom 19T single but I am shopping right now for something with more umph so when I hit a jump I can punch it and keep the front wheels up. I don't really know what to buy and they are so expensive I don't want to go trial and error. I have a Tekin ESC that will handle anything so there is no limit. I guess i would want a good solid comprimise between top speed, torque and battery life. I also have a couple of matched 2000 packs.

[B3 Bomb]

Well this is also the place to post pics...heres mine. Anyone else who has a T3 does it click in the rear end afterbiulding it and then go away after it has ran for a wile? http://www.angelfire.com/pa4/qmainracing/T3_B3_header.jpg

[BrahmaBullSQ]

B3 Bomb... what county is Paradise in??? i'm in cumberland county near carlisle and harrisburg. my t3 clicks a little but if you push it fast it isn't a click. i dunno... mine runs fine. i love it. :)

[Isky]

Myst, what compound are those tires ? You should gear up a tooth, because your car will have too much torque. I drive my car on-road with stock fronts, Proline gladiator 2's in the rear, but i never spin out unless i hit the brakes in a turn. What shock oil are you running, and do you have toe-in up front? Lets see...buy the optional sway bars AS LONG AS YOU DONT GO OVER JUMPS!!!! Also, was the ground dusty? If you have the money, do all of the above, and try to buy Pro-Line foam tires for the T3. Tell me how it goes!

[Q-main racing]

Paradise is about 45 minutes from Harrisburg heading toward Philly. This is B3 Bomb just different screen name. (old one no longer works?) And the clicking has gone away. I also realized that the pictre doesnt come up so here is the page
:)
Q Main R/C racing (http://www.angelfire.com/pa4/qmainracing/)

[ 05-23-2001: Message edited by: Q-main racing ]

[HauntedMyst]

Here they are:

My Factory Team T3 for onroad with the following:
Dahm's CyberBuggsy Body (the best stadium body ever)
13x2(BA!!! Never buy Trinity)
Novak Fusion
Team Orion Matched 2000's
JP Slicks on RPM chrome Stars wheels. It's since been lowered for street racing.

The other is my jumping Team T3 with multiple upgrades runnign a 14x2 motor and Novak Atom ESC

http://albums.photopoint.com/j/View?u=324108&a=13081324&p=49638347

http://albums.photopoint.com/j/View?u=324108&a=13081324&p=49638346

Isky,
Thanks for all the information. The compound feels hard, I have a set of softs on order. I won't buy foams because I hear they don't last that long. What oil and springs do you recommend?

I have another Team T3 I'm getting back from the hobby shop tomorrow all wired up that will be just for jumping. Any good jump setups out there? We're talking straight line Evil Kneivel style jumps, distance and landing are all that matter.

machinehead, get a 13 or 14 x 2. Mine has enough umph in it to hold a wheelie a good distance after a landing just by cracking the the throttle.

[ 06-02-2001: Message edited by: HauntedMyst ]

[FactoryTeam Guy wannabe]

Hey I run a T3 on a Medium packed clay track and I need some set ups, so if you have any info that would be helpful!
I have the Team version of the T3 with
-AE Factory Team Titanium Turnbucles
-RPM ball cups and gear cover
-P2k stock motor, and hopefully soon getting a GM3.
-87, 19. gearing, sometimes 87, 20, depending on motor.
-2 1700 trinity matched batteries
-1 2000 matched world class battery
-1 2400 matched world class battery
-2 3000 trinity panasonic matched battery (I really dont like them much but hey I bought them used for 10$ a piece)
-I use a JR XR3 radio with a novak XXL reciever
-Novak Dually ESC
-Raceprep Pro Connectors
-RRP aluminum Pinions
-holeshot rear tires and edge fronts.
-and I am currently using a standard servo but I am soon upgrading to a Hitec 625MG hi-speed/torque servo. :D

[FactoryTeam Guy wannabe]

Ok so no one has a good set up for medium packed med traction clay?

[Bodido]

Just got my FT T3 finished up tonight. It's my first electric in 14 years or so. I've been running a GT for a while, but I had to get an electric too. A track just opened less than 10 minutes from my house, They only run electrics, so it was a no brainer. I can't wait to get out there tomorrow and try this thing out on the track. I did get some nice laps in my garage. :D
I wouldn't mind some setup tips as well. The track is small and tight. Not hard-pack, but not loamy either. It's some where in between. Jumps aren't that large and the track is pretty smooth. Right now I've got the stock setup . I'm running the Fantom version of the P2K with a 20t pinion and 87t spur. I think I may be overgeared, but the shop at the track has lots of parts. So I may pick up an 18t and 19t pinion tomorrow.

I wish this thread was as active as the GT forum. Hopefully it will pick up.

[ 06-09-2001: Message edited by: Bodido ]

[athowells]

How good are them RTR blue-anodized aluminum shocks. They come on the 'Team Built' version and I am thinking about getting one?

[HauntedMyst]

anthowells,
The blue shocks are great. I would bet 9 out of 10 people couldn't tell the difference between the blue and the teflon shocks even if they do tell you otherwise.

[Agent86]

1) How do you adjust the slipper clutch on the RC10T3 and how do you know if it's correctly adjusted? 2) I own the RTR version, so it came with a Reedy 20T piece of poop motor. I don't race, I just drive around for my own personal amusement (mostly in parking lots, or some off-roadish terrain, when I can find it) and I'm looking for a motor that will give me some added top speed, but not somethig modified, something stock that won't kill my batteries in 5 minutes flat. Oh yeah, one more question....I use a Dynamite Vision Peak charger and Sanyo 1700 cells. Should my packs get hot when I charge them? At what rate should I charge them, 4 amps or 2 amps? Thanks a million for your help, it's greatly appreciated!

[rims']

what kinda differences will the T4 have???

[Turboduck01]

they have a thing at the associated site where you can say what you want to be changed from the t3 to the t4, i'd recommend you go there and put in your input!

[athowells]

Has anyone here broken anything yet on the T3 'Factory Team'?

[KJG]

Just finished my Factory Team RC10T3

Reedy Ti 11x2 motor
LRP IPC Pro Sport digital ESC
Ko Propo PS-713 Fet servo

Got some AM radio gear which i will have to change at some point but its got me going.

Any tips on setting the truck up....? :p

[Bodido]

I just finished mine about a month ago. I've ran 14 packs through it so far, and it is still perfect. A few scratches (more than a few on the body) is all I've had happen. I've even smacked one of those plywood barriers (beside the tabletops, doubles, etc...) right on the end at full speed. No damage!

As for setup. So far I haven't strayed too far from the out of the box setup, besides messing with preload and battery placement. It seems pretty good for my track, which is pretty small, with a med-hard surface, and small jumps.

If this is your first AE kit pay close attention to the diff adjusment. If you keep it adjusted properly, and smooth, it'll treat you well.

If you don't have a metal gear servo, I'd recommend you try to work in the servo saver so it works smoothly. You'll want it adjusted almost completely loose. Many people grease the point where the two halves meet to make sure it doesn't bind. I'm running a beefy hitec 925mg and I still do this.

That's all I can think of at the moment that needs carefull attention.

I'm by no means done tweaking with mine. I just picked up a bunch of goodies. I picked up some shock rebuild kits ( I've got a GT too). I ordered a bunch of different springs. Got some 25, 30, 35wt oil. Motor brushes, motor spray, bushing oil, pinions.

I plan to run on another track soon. It's way bigger. Bigger jumps. Bigger everything. Between the two tracks I should learn quite a bit. The hard way, I'm sure.

I'll try to keep helpful info posted.

[racerman333]

does anybody have problems with the shocks leaking?? Ive been using the same team shock bodies since i got my kit about 2 years ago and now dirt collects very easily on the bottom of the shocks. I think that the hole where the shaft goes has gotten bigger from using that white tool during rebuilds. Anybody have this happen???
Also check out my site. I have a section on the T3 there http://www.geocities.com/flipsk8r25/nick.html?947036717620
:o nicks rc site (http://www.geocities.com/flipsk8r25/nick.html?947036717620)

[racerman333]

agent86-just adjust the slipper so that the nut goes until the threads on the topshaft can be seen; so it is flush. It usually works best this way.

[racerman333]

also does anybody know the differences in the T3 team and the newer updated T3 team? I heard the front shock tower is molded now. :eek:

[KJG]

Thanks Bodido, I particuarly liked the servo saver tip. It has to be a good idea whatever type of servo people use.

I have found that under braking that the truck likes to pop on to its roof or do a complete flip when turning... Very impressive to watch not too cool for me... I have found that an increased camber of 5 degrees sorts it out.

[noobie]

My ftt3 shocks are new and they leak a little bit. I just top them off periodically. The hole on the bottom of the shock body won't affect leaking. It is the o-rings inside that determine leakage. I am finally going to get around to rebuilding my shocks with new internals this weekend(i think).

[T3_Bashing]

the RPM seals will make your shocks much better.

[racerman333]

check out my site http://www.geocities.com/flipsk8r25/nick.html?947036717620

Hey does anybody use grease on the servo saver???

[racerman333]

Heres some photos of my T3

http://albums.photopoint.com/j/ViewPhoto?u=1737827&a=13369478&p=50866848&f=0
http://albums.photopoint.com/j/ViewPhoto?u=1737827&a=13369478&p=50866925&f=0

[racerman333]

http://www.geocities.com/flipsk8r25/pic46.html

[racerman333]

ok whats up with this images dont appear when linked from photo point or geocities. That ***** .

[racerman333]

:confused: :mad:

[speedydave]

What servo is everyone running in their T3's? I have a Hitec 545BB because my Hitec 605BB wouldn't fit... Also, was any hand fitting necessary for your servo to fit? If so, where did you do what to it? Thanks.

[racerman333]

hey are you speedy dave from delta?? I just seen you posting on their website and Jangs site b4. ive raced at delta only twice (im goin to the next one if my stock motors i ordered come). check race results my name is nick. I run a hitec 945 and its got 133 oz of torque. Theres one servo that stormer hobbies carries for $55 and its digital that i would get if i got a new one.

[racerman333]

oh i guess i didnt answer the question. Well the first time i upgraded the servo i think it was the 605 i got and it didnt fit so i returned it. I have asked on the Trinity message board and somepeople say that it can be modified to fit.

[RustlerBoy]

i AM getting a T3! I am getting the Updated Team edition in a week. I use a P2K, and a Novak Fusion ESC. What pinion should i use? I was thinking a 20 or 21 tooth. What do you think?

[racerman333]

either a 20 or a 21 is fine. I would get the 21 because you can run up to 23 with no problems and it will give you a slightly higher top speed.

[speedydave]

Yeah, I'm from Delta. Are you going to be racing next weekend(this upcoming Saturday)? If so, what does your car look like and are you in stock truck or novice? Are you in the Live Chat? If so, what's your name? See ya.

[racerman333]

well i was going to race but i just found out i have to work that day. **** i havent raced since 6/16. You can check the race results for 6/16 on delta website i race stock truck.

Check out the pictures i took from that race day at http://www.geocities.com/racerman222/DeltaPicPage.html
My car is in the very1st picture.

[aspiringrcracer710]

Im ordering a T3 and gear off the Internet unless my mom is able to take me to my LHS

[RustlerBoy]

I just bought my T3 Here is what i got!

T3 Updated Team
Trinity Hard One 20 th pinion
Trinity Hard One 21 th pinion
Heat Shrink
Extra wrenches
Extra Spur
RPM Gear Cover
T3 Tuning Guide
Extra Hood Pins

[Disasterman2000]

Hey FactoryTeam Guy wannabe

If you want to make fast qualifying times with your T3, keep the P2K and the 19 tooth pinion, this will give you great acceleration on a tight course with few straights. If your track is more wideopen, go with an MYP or GM3 and gear it with a 20 tooth, this will give you better top-speed.
As for suspension, I keep mine just stiff enough to keep from bottoming out on the largest jump(a triple & a tabletop). Also, put your battery as far back as it can go in the battery tray, this gives you more traction but a little less steering. If you have a medium friction type track, I would go with Bowties, for a higher friction track use Square Fuzzie T's, and StepPins for traction tracks. I tend to get more punch out of my Sanyo 2400's with about 12 full-speed minutes. On 3000's I get longer run times but not as much bottom end power(use these with mods). Keep in mind that all this info does you no good unless you practice, practice, practice. Find the best line to take at your track and run it as close to the boards that you can. The driver that wins races is the one that practices, drives consitently, and remember that these things are toys and we drive them for a good time.
By the way, here's my setup: Team T3
P2K with 19/87
Blue shocks
Front and Rear
No spacers
IPC Digital
Sport ESC
Hitec HS525BB
Proline Bowtie
& Edge M3's
and sadly,
Traxxas TQ
:cool: :p

[ 07-19-2001: Message edited by: Chris Driscoll ]

[Disasterman2000]

Rustler Boy,

It sounds like you got a pretty nice setup, but I would recomend that you get an RPM front bumber, for added protection in crashes, and a 19 tooth pinion gear. The ones you have are great for tracks that are wide-open with lots of straights and space between obstacles, but you really should get a 19 tooth pinion if you are going to race on a tight track with many hairpins and few straights. The lower gear ratio will allow you to attain maximum speed quicker than you would with a larger pinion, thus allowing you to get over doubles and sometimes triples a heck of a lot easier than the guys running taller ratios. Don't worry about getting left behind in the straights either, my friend has a T3 almost identical to mine (he has a 20 tooth pinion+about $100 more dollars invested in his than mine)and I can smoke him in the infield and hang with him in the straights to. The P2K is a great tight track motor, for a more open course, I would get a GM3 or an MYP. I haven't tried the Fantoms yet, but I hear they are pretty good. Read my other post if you want a little more info on setups.
:cool: :p ;)

[RustlerBoy]

I already have an 18 and 19 tooth pinion. I heard that the Trinity Hard Ones pinion wont fit in the RPM Gear Cover. Please tell me its not true!

[chubba]

hey i got a t3 for sale its a ft t3 i want 115 dolars for it e mail for all the info it has all rpm and rrp and alumin stuff on it it worth over 300 new with all the upgrades and i got 5 sets of tires email me hattonchubba2001@aol.com :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

[rc10t3racer]

Rustler Boy,

Congrats on the new purchase, you'll be happy with it.

[Disasterman2000]

Rustler Boy,

I have no experience with the Trinity pinions, but I do own a 18,19,and 20 tooth Robinson Racing 48 pitch hardened pinions. These have seemed to mesh better than any others I've tried. If your Trinity's don't fit(I don't see why they wouldn't) go to your track or LHS and pick up some Robinsons,
Mine were $5 bucks a piece. Hope the info helps.
:) :cool: :)

[racerman333]

everbody raves about p2ks. I just got a spitfire and that thing can smoke p2ks. I think im going to try a fantom p2k soon to make a comparison between the two. I also got a fantom p2k and tested that after the spitfire and those motors just **** for offroad. Ive heard somepeople say they **** and some say they have had luck with them. This motor just plain overheats. :p

[rc10t3racer]

Racerman,

I have a bunch of P2Ks and one Orion Chrome (same motor as your Spitfire).

When both motors are fresh (newly cut coms and new brushes) I've noticed the Orion Chrome has less torque, but a much smoother powerband. The P2K is a lot punchier (more torque).

The Orion Chrome seems to have 1-2 really hot laps, then performance drops. This may just be a problem with my one motor.

On my home track, sometimes the P2K runs better. Occasionally the layout of the track favors the Orion Chrome.

I have made the decision to focus on the P2K as more people on my track and LHS run them and can give me more performance tuning tips (springs, brushes, etc...).

[RustlerBoy]

Hey, just broke my stock S3003 servo so I ordered a Cirrus CS 60BBMG servo. Is there any way to make the servo saver be nicer? I brioke my S3003 twice in 5 minutes@!

[RC10T3]

HauntedMyst, did you take off the shock spacers on the outside of the front shocks? If not, that will cause those probs. Also, run 2 quarters in the front of the chassis. It doesnt matter where, just ahead of the midpoint. Also, put the batteries mid-forward. And, go to 45 wt all around, red springs in the front, blue in the rear. Then you will be a pavement tiger :-)
Also, look into jaco/proline foams. Just make sure that if you get them, trim them down until you get an inch left of foam, and the race them.

And, here are pics of my truck.
http://members.home.net/rc10t3/truck.jpg
http://members.home.net/rc10t3/t3-1.jpg
http://members.home.net/rc10t3/t3-2.jpg
http://members.home.net/rc10t3/t3-3.jpg


Its a 1997 Team T3, and includes Graphite a-arms, chassis, shock towers, RPM ballcups, hub carriers, steering blocks, stering spindles, Lunsford Punisher Turnbuckles, Lunsford Ballends, Associated Blue motor mount, RPM Blue gear cover, Boca Bearings (first set wore out), Hammad Gumman Top shaft, MIP Aluminum CVDs and Lite-Drives, Carbide Diff Balls, Losi Step-Pins, Pro-Line Edge fonts, Ball bearing steering

Novak Cyclone, Banshee 10x2 motor, B&T 2400s and 3000s.
FYI,I would like to say none of those parts except the Turnbuckles made me a better driver, it takes practice, and thats THE way to go fast :-)

[RC10T3]

oh and rustler boy, you can either turn the servo-saver nut allthe way out until it is flish with the mounting thing :-), or get Associated's softer servo-saver.

[RC10T3]

oh, here is some action shots at the first weekend we bought the land for the track :-)
http://members.home.net/rc10t3/jump1.jpg
http://members.home.net/rc10t3/jump2.jpg
http://members.home.net/rc10t3/jump3.jpg
http://members.home.net/rc10t3/awesome.jpg

[oodlesonoodles2001]

ok, my T3 is bone stock right now, i have the RTR version, and this really pissed me off, the first day at the track, i blow one of the shocks, anyways, i rebuilt it and it works fine.
BTW:you might want to upgrade the front suspension oil so that it is a little thicker if you run on a hard packed track, with at least a double, definatley if it has a triple.
BTW:
i also have an airtronics balzer sport radio, with a Hitec 645 MG ultra tourqe servo (well worth the money!)
anyways, i am planning to buy the following:
1.Speed gems 17 turn motor.
2.Bearings(but theyre on backorder till november GRRRRR.)
3.RPM 6-spoke talonz chrome wheels
4.Pro-Line step pin tires, and ribbed tires, and associated foam.
5.MIP shiny CVD's.
6.Associated blue motor mount plate, and front kickup.
7.Pro-line T3 sierra body.
i already have the last one and am working on a paintjob currently. :eek: :D

[ 08-12-2001: Message edited by: oodlesonoodles2001 ]

[T3_Bashing]

oodlesonoodles2001 try www.rcboyz.com (http://www.rcboyz.com) I think they have bearings in stock and the prices are really good.

[B3T3BMX]

well heres my T3 setup
LRP V6 (find its alot smoother than the V7.1
motors range from 10 to 12 turn Reedy Furys
Novak Mercury reciever
3PJ Futaba
batteries are mostly 2400 and 3000, for practive I use 2000
but yeah..my car is fast with a 10x3 MW Fury :p

[oodlesonoodles2001]

hey thanx for the bearings tip, i ordered some, cant wait to get em in there. They have a lot of stuff, thats reasonably priced, check it out some time :D

[RustlerBoy]

Hey, I just bought a Cirrus CS60BBMG servo!

T3
Trinity Maxx Paxx, P2K
Cirrus CS60BBMG
Futaba 2PC
Novak Fusion
RPM Gear Cover

Thats about it. I just bought thwe truck a month ago and I am buying a bike, so no money goes to the car until X-mas and the bike ispayed off!

[oodlesonoodles2001]

dude i was just surfin the web, and i came across the coolest truck, i dont have the URL, but heres what it had.

1.Blue anodized CVD's.
2.Blue Titanium chassis.
3.Blue titanium, front, and rear shock towers.
4.Blue titanium turnbuckles, and aluminum caps.
5.D3.5 11 turn motor.
6.2 speed transmission.
7.blue titanium, front/rear a-arms.
and almost everything else either graphite, or aluminum, i cant remeber what ESC it had, i think it was a C2 or somethin. Just goes to show you, that you can do great things with these trucks. :eek:

[T3_Racer]

Alrite all you T3 freaks i need some FAT setups.

I run on a hardpacked blue clay track that is watered regularly that has some pretty descent sized jumps. Check it out atwww.rlhobbies.com (http://www.rlhobbies.com).

Ok then, i need everything u guys got, shock oils, pistons, camber, toe-in/out, ect.
I mean EVERYTHING you can tell me before your fingers fall off from typing would be GREATLY appreaciated! Thank you all very much! :D

Another problem, I have just bought TONS of shtuff for my truck and now have some trouble with my cars tracking. It just wanders on the straight. It is easily corrected but gets kinda annoying. I replaced my ball cups and it still does this. Could it be a worn a-arm/suspension slop? Anyways i need some help so just post and ill be ur best friend! :D

[aspiringrcracer710]

It probably is something in the suspension. do a full inspection and keep me posted

[RustlerBoy]

Yeah, check your suspension, and also check to see if your servo is centered and toe in is the asmae on each side

[Railman]

A tight, dirty, or stiff diff will make a truck wander all over on a straight away. I know it seems backwards but I had it happen on a GT once. I refused to believe people that that's what it was, untill I tried loosenining it up as a last resort. It then went perfectly straight...no problem. The Associated diffs are the smoothest in the industry when they are built right, & should be velvety smooth. If it was ok before & then started to not go straight, it's probably a sign that it needs to be rebuilt . Do a search on "diff rebuild" & see what comes up. Just my $.02

[gedertr]

Here's my T3...

http://www.printroom.com/_vti_bin/ViewImage.dll?userid=gedertr&album_id=34380&image_id=4&courtesy=1

[Trucks]

T3 RACER, give us some of your track conditions and we'll try to help if you need some setup tips.

as far as the wondering it mite also be you toe end on the front. I dont have a toe in gauge so I set the truck on the bench and measure between the middle of the front tire in front of the tire and then in the back of the front tires using just a plain ruler. I then ajust the tirods until I get about 1/8 inch shorter distance in the front then the back.

[RustlerBoy]

sweet paint job gedetr

[RustlerBoy]

sweet paint job gedetr

[B3T3BMX]

I just got a Reedy Ti 10x2 and that thing is insane on the track. really good torque and good speed and I can still gear up., I wuz running a 17, but I couldnt try the 18 but I think it will handle it..if U want a good truck motor get these!, also the Sonic 2 laydowns work awesome

[KilRuf]

Hey guys,and gals? Anyways, just got my Team kit about 2 weeks ago. Pretty cool Truck! I like it alot! Been outta RC for about 3 years. I used to race touring cars but they don't race that here in town. Found out they raced offroad and it just so happens that the biggest class was stock trucks. So here I am! Hehe. Took my truck out and raced last weekend. Took 2nd! Yipee! But only a few people showed up due to the heat hehe. Anyways, here's my truck and what I have with it. Some stuff from my touring car days.....
http://intyrestudios.tripod.com/pics/rc10t3.jpg

Team kit RC10 T3
Airtronics M8
Airtronics 94257 servo
Novak Mercury receiver
Tekin G-10 speed control
P2K pro motor
Trinity World Tech 1700 & 2000 matched packs

That's about it. Can't run the 3000mah in stock class here. So I'd like to try out a 2400. Been out of RC for awhile, so what's a good matched 2400 pack? Looking to also try the GM3 being that the track has some long straights. About 2 90' straights. Think the GM3 would be a good idea? Thanks guys! :D

~Mike (aka-superman)

[ 08-20-2001: Message edited by: KilRuf ]

[rims']

Verry nice gedertr. that paint job is so sweet

[KilRuf]

Damn I can't get my picture to show. Can anyone else see it? All I see is a red X! Let me try some of my other websites......

Mike

[T3_Racer]

If you want to check out some pics of the track goto www.rlhobbies.com (http://www.rlhobbies.com)

Thanks!

[gedertr]

Hey T3 Racer - I went to college at Western and raced a couple of times at R&L before moving to Muskegon. I am now racing at Raw Roots outdoor off road track south of Grand Haven. I was thinking about coming down to R&L to race in the fall and winter. Any advice on what tire i should bring? By the way...it was watching racing at R&L that got me into this hobby four years ago!!!

[TC3Racer]

i have the RTR version of the T3 but i hopped it up with the following stuff.
-Dynamite Power Pulse ESC
-Hi-Tec MG servo
-P2K Pro motor
-Proline Gladiator II's
-HPI 5 Spoke rims on the gladiator II's
-RPM blue dust cover
i'm running Sanyo 1800 and 2000 Mah batteries. i will have pics as soon as i get the software for my digital camera loaded! :D

[rims']

nice! tc3 racer
btw: how do the rrp pinion do?

[T3_Racer]

Gede-I run Bowtie M3's there but i have seen people go with hole-shots and even some gladiators. I personally like the Bow-Ties. Thats what works best for me. Hope this helps!

Heres my setup:
--FT T3
--RPM yellow ball cups
--RPM yellow gear cover
--RPM yellow rear bumper
--RPM yellow mini bumper
--Lunsford TI turnbuckles
--Trinity SMH's (3000) :D
--Novak Atom (so freaking small!)
--D4 12 turn ( I dont race with that motor too fast!)
--JR 8550 Digital servo
--Trinity purp. aluminum screw set
--HG shock collars
--HG shock mounts
--Progressive reservoirs (SWEET!)

Ok ive left out some stuff but im getting tired of typing. :)

[rims']

how does that rear bumper do as far as protecting the motor and motor plate

[rims']

which servos r u all using?

[rc10t3racer]

Warhawk,

I use the RPM rear bumper and I think it is great for racing. It protects your endbell when you get rear-ended or if you really case a jump and land rear first.

As far as Servos, I use an HiTec 945 metal gear servo. It has 153 oz/in of torque and a speed of .12 seconds. I'm pretty happy with it and I haven't broken or stripped any gears. I run with the servo-saver pretty tight.

[rims']

i think i'll get one

[racerman333]

t3 racer- how do you like piggy backs on a T3?? ive never seen anybody run em on an electric truck, only GT's and XXXNTs.

[RustlerBoy]

I am runnjing a Cirrus servo. Its got ok torque but slow sped. It is only 22 bucks for the metal gear. Mine had a defect o it cuts out.

[rims']

what was the defect?

[RustlerBoy]

It stalls when I turn it to the left or the right when there is any load on the front wheels, and someties when i just turn the wheel!

[RustlerBoy]

It stalls when I turn it to the left or the right when there is any load on the front wheels, and someties when i just turn the wheel!

[rims']

its either glitching or its busted either way i'd send it back

[Railman]

Warhawks right. Where did you buy it? If it's an lhs they should take care of it. If it's mailorder/internet you need to e-mail or pick up the phone. At any rate, send it back. Have you tried your old servo again, just to make shure it's not something else causing it?

[RustlerBoy]

Yeah, I am sending it back. Customer service said it was a defect, so they said to send it back, and dats what I am doing!

[oodlesonoodles2001]

Hey, any one got any tips for gearing, i want to gear mine for a little more tourqe, i only have the stock in there.

[Railman]

Oodles, what motor are you running. The pinion size can change as much as 4 teeth on a stocker, depending on what the motor design is. Joe

[TC3Racer]

warhawk i am running the stock pinion on my T3... not the rrp pinion.

[RustlerBoy]

Well, run either a 19 for torque or a 20 or 21 for max speed

[JAGUAR5871]

wow i have a rustler now and i want to get a T3 i dont have much green,, but which one can i run in the stock class with that wont cost like a million dollars

[timberwolf177]

oodles, I run a 20 on three different tracks out here in northern cal. It seems to do great. I did use a 19 on a real short track, but I could see the loss in straight aways. I am running stock motor Reedy Rage, 87 spur, and 2400 pack. Hope this helps. :D

[timberwolf177]

Jaguar, You will defenatly see a difference.. I started truck racing witht the rustler.. I had tons of fun (which is what it is all about!) but when I bought my t3.. I was in love.... if you dont have green, to make your rustler more competitive.. go to ultimattraxxas.com. It has great cheep ideas.. I lightened my frame, wow what a difference.

[JAGUAR5871]

well my friend has a T3 and i can keep up with him because he has a bad motor

[timberwolf177]

That will work to. but check out that web site. lots of great ideas. I try to encourage keeping the cost down. It can get quite expensive.. most of my racing pals dont have tons of green, so we find new ways to make things go faster and work better. You can always start out with the t3sport model (130 to 150) and build up from there.

[JAGUAR5871]

timberwolf thanks for the site i'll be sure to hop up my rustler

[TC3Racer]

if you wanna get a T3 and race it i would just sell your rustler.... if you do this and pick up a T3 i'm sure you wont be dissapointed.

[racerman333]

timber wolf- do they have any offroad tracks in grass valley??? my grandparents live up there so i go occasionally.

[KilRuf]

I use a 22/87 on my T3 with a P2K pro. I tried lower, but I got lower lap times. Must be the long straights. Welp, gotta go get my T3 ready for tomorrows race... chat with yall later!

Mike

[timberwolf177]

Racerman... No, there is no "real" tracks up here, but I built the next best thing. I have 5 acres and built a track. It has the drivers stand and the whole 5 yards. So when your up give me a call. email me, and give me your address so I can send you my tele. hope to race you soon.
timberwolf177@******* .com

[Darryl149]

Hi guys looking to buy a factory team T3 I have a super rooster, radio/reciever and a trinity d4 15/double. Two questions
What would a starting point be for gearing?
Will the stock emaxx stearing servo work?

[KilRuf]

Well had an excellent race today. Took 2nd again. Soooo close to winning. I think my 2 mistakes cost me. At least 1st place and myself were 1 lap ahead hehe. Ahh well, next race I'll give it a shot again. I was fun tight racing though!!

Well Darry, according to the T3 manual I'd say the gearing would be 20/87. You can also look it up on the Associated web site under gearing. And that's just a starting point for ya. I have no experience with mod motors in the T3 as we race stock class here. As far as the emaxx servo, I dunno. What size is it? The T3 takes a standard size servo. So if the emaxx servo is big, then no it won't. Sorry, but that's all I can tell ya for now. Hope that helps some.

Mike

[rims']

here's my T3 i hope to have action pics soon!!! :D
http://www.theshreves.com/rccapics/warhawk51/32.jpg

[ 08-26-2001: Message edited by: warhawk51 ]

[Darryl149]

Thanks kilruf Sounds like you had a good race. Go for that 1st next time.

[RustlerBoy]

Sweet PJ Warhawk! I started with a Rustler too, then upgraded it to a Stampede, then got a TA02, now a T3. I am selling the other three to pay for my bike now.

[racerman333]

rustler- you consider going from a rustler to stampede an upgrade?

[Mason Copeland]

Hey guys I have a t3 rtr it's stock with the exception of a p2k novak explorer and a custom made top plate.It is now more flexible and I dont break them right after I buy 'em.My p2k is screwing up so could you recommend me a powerful 15t motor,proper gearing,and aftermarket brushes and spring for more power ,ar ar ar ar ar(like on home improvement with Tim Allen).I'm making a jump t3(i dont race, no track here in San Diego,wish there was)
planned hop ups:
powerful 15t motor
aftermarket brushes,springs
rmp 6 spoke wheels
masher tires
intellapeak deluxe charger
couple of duratrax 2400's
new body
new antennae(for radio, broke it)
bearings
is this a good setup for a jump t3?
(BTW:what does TTT mean anyway)

[Mason Copeland]

p.s.I might post some pics later, still and flyin' lol!!!

[RustlerBoy]

No, my friend gave me a Stampede, so I took all my good hopups off my Rustler and put them on the Pede.

NE body wanna buy all three???

[Mason Copeland]

Yeah I do, hows a buck sound?lol
BTW anyone have the answers to my ?'s above?

[RustlerBoy]

Mason, tyour jump T3, sounds AWSOME!!

Some gurl named Kristin said she would trade her B3 for my Stampede, what do yall think???

[Mason Copeland]

What does it come with?Whats its condition? We need more info then we can help Rustlerboy.

[ 08-27-2001: Message edited by: Mason Copeland ]

[RustlerBoy]

QWell, just look inj the Sale/Trader/ forum and you will see. It is under

Traxxas Stamoede, Rsytler, Tamiya TA02, and more

[rims']

okay guys can we get back to our T3's?
I have a p2k how should i gear it to go fast as possible without overgearing?

[oodlesonoodles2001]

Hey timberwolf, i live in Placerville, do u race rescue? neways i decided to get rrp absolute pinion/spur, and a speed gems 17t, i still want tips on gearing.

[Mason Copeland]

just figured it was my controller not my p2k.

[oodlesonoodles2001]

Ok, i have got the money for my hop-ups hree are the before picvs. after pics coming soon. i have made a few changes alraeady, such as i have used blazer airtronics radio, and a new hitec 645 mg servo. Here is the link.

[ 08-27-2001: Message edited by: oodlesonoodles2001 ]

[oodlesonoodles2001]

here it is: http://photos.***** .com/bc/oodlesonoodles99/lst?.dir=/&.src=ph&.view=t
copy it and add yah oo where the stars are, with out the spaces.

[ 08-27-2001: Message edited by: oodlesonoodles2001 ]

[Railman]

Warhawk, By as fast as it will go do you mean on a race track or just in a straight line on the street? Big differance!

[KilRuf]

Okay, I put my picture up in another forum, but not in a T3 forum (well I did, but it didn't work) So here goes again.

http://www.comixmatrix.com/artists/image.asp?id=328629

Anyways, thanks Darryl. I will try for 1st next time! :D During my qualifying runs I think I fried my new P2K Pro motor. First I thought it was my radio. But I changed my batts and I'm the only one on that freq there. Still nada. So I ended up using my old one for the A-main. Ran great! I'll try a rebuild of the new one and see what happens. If nada, then I'll try a GM3 for fun. Anyways, I ran it at 22/87. I tried 22/86. But this was during my qualifying trial of what's wrong with this motor. It does get hot. So I don't know if you should do it. Is it for track or fun use WarHawk? Do you have long straights? We sorta do. Two of them. Do what someone mentioned and gear it so that you reach full speed at 2/3 of the straight-a-way. Hope this helps some. :)

Mike

[Railman]

KilRuf, When you rebuild that P2K, try going with a 20, or what we run is a 19 pinion. It works well on a 90' straight, with good punch & cool temps. Try it with a small slot (.030 or so), parallel with the arm shaft on the E brush. That'll let it wind up & give a little kick on the straight, as long as your batts, & spedeo are decent. Works for us. Joe

[Mason Copeland]

Just figured out it was my settings on the hs notin' was wrong with my esc

[rims']

railman i meant on a straight

[RustlerBoy]

Yesh, Kilruf, you definetly have it geared WAY TOPO HI!!

[ttweedle]

How can I get my com trued with out buying a comm lathe? Is there another way? I have alot of different things I could spend the 150 bones on than a lathe...Like some cool hop ups for my FTT3, or maybe A good used backup T3 on Ebay...

[Mason Copeland]

Your lhs might do it BTW I might have some pics by friday of my t3 buit it is not transformed to my jump t3YET...

[KilRuf]

Thanks guys. I run a Tekin G-10 speedo, so I do believe I have a good one. Although I'd love that new LRP Quantum! Anyways, my batts are all matched too. I'll try out the 20/87 gearing and time my laps with my M8 set for 5 minutes. That's what we run at our track. I don't want to loose any lap times because I was one of 2 to get 10 laps during the A-main. Everyone else was 8 or 9. Hmmm I was just thinking the extra speed would be no problem since it's a stock race and 5 minutes is NO problem what'so ever. But If I fry motors, with my current gearing, then I'll back off.

Also, do you guys run a RPM blue gear box cover? Just wondering. I'm still using the stock one and keep getting damn dirt/pebbles in there. Wondering if it's worth the 5 bucks.

Hey TRAVIS TWEEDLE, is there a race in Fayetteville this weekend? I'm looking to go racing somewhere. Any good races in Virginia? Beuller? Anyone? Anyone?

Mikey :eek:

[racerman333]

the blue gear cover is definitely worth it. I never get rocks into the gear mesh, and its not as flimsy. I also like how the plug for the slipper is machined so you dont have to do it yourself.

[RustlerBoy]

GET THE GEAR COVER!!!1

The stock one SUCKS!@@ Get the RPM one. It not only looks great, but for 5 bucks, it saves you TUNS of gears@

[RustlerBoy]

Hey, how much do you guys think I could get for selling a Stampede, Rustler, TA02, and another Rustler that is a aparts car all wioth motors and servos???

[ttweedle]

Hey Kilruf, there will be a race as long as the weather holds up.... :D
I have never raced but hope to go on Saturday and see what happens

[ 08-30-2001: Message edited by: travis tweedle ]

[KilRuf]

Thanks, it just thunderstormed and showered here. So I dunno either. I'll have to see if I'll make it too! If not, I'll have to wait til next weekend when we race here.

Mike

[RustlerBoy]

Got my Cirrus serio back today. zit works AWSOME!!!

[oodlesonoodles2001]

Ok, i have just got a new charger, and iv been driving it for once, not charging it, and it seems to me, that the stock body, and wheels are real pieces. The rear wheels, have broken off in places around the rim, plus, the bowties it came with, have become slicks almost, and the body, i accidentally flipped it, and the shock towers cracked the area of the body above, them, and my friends, is just a gaping hole right there, so i dont know if im just abusing it (although i dont see how it would be, seeing as how it was pretty light driving) or is my driving too much for the car, has this happened to you, excuse me as i buy some new wheels.

[ttweedle]

Kilruf, could you let me know where some tracks are? I only know of the one here, Actually I live less than 5 miles from the track, but would like to go other places too.
Any help would be appreciated

[RustlerBoy]

Oodles, my T3 is sorta like that. istripped iut a wheel on my first track apperance, but it stuill works.

[RustlerBoy]

N E body home??

[KilRuf]

Hey Travis, go to the Regional forum and look up Tar Heel posts. Anyways, the only other place I know to race my T3 is here in Goldsboro (Seymour Johnson AFB). There's a place near here Called Rosewood and they have a Track there. They race every other weekend that Fayetteville races. So technically you could race every weekend! I just have to find out where your track is so I can come over there and race! I didn't today cuz it was raining here. I did go to the Rosewood track and practice. But it was a bad move.. hehe. It was muddy and well, trying that 20/87 gearing seemed okay for now. My car stopped working!! Hehe.. too much mud/water. Anyways, it was just my receiver getting dirty. Took it apart at home and cleaned it. I have a spare anyways. I guess next weekend I'll try out the 20/87 gearing in one heat and then 22/87 in the next. Hell I'll do 21/87 in yet another heat. I'll let yall know how I do with that. Well let me surf... L8R!

Mike

[T3_Bashing]

RustlerBoy if you don't put you wheels on correctly they will strip the first time you drive your truck. And oodlesoodle2001 it is hard to believe you broke your wheels with light driving I have yet to brake one and a do some REALLY REALLY HARD DRIVING.

[KilRuf]

Hey Rustler, I don't use any hopups really. I do have a Team kit, but not the Factory. Only thing would be that gear cover yall recommended me. Can't wait to get mine. I don't think you really any hopups. All you need to know how to do is drive. But depending on your kit.. I would definity recommend bearings if you don't already have them. All I need are the bearing for steering and I'll be set. That's the only upgrade/hopup I'll do. No need for graphite or anything for me. All I can say is try different tires to see what hooks up when the track is dry and when it's wet. Do you have a good hi-speed/torque servo? If not, get one. Just my 2¢.

Mike

[oodlesonoodles2001]

yeah, well, my light drving, is apparently extreme driving. lol

[oodlesonoodles2001]

so far:
a blazer sport radio.
Hitec 645 MG servo
Full Bearings
and some more comin soon.

[RustlerBoy]

So, anybody got any good T3 tips at all?? What are youtr guys' hopups?

[KilRuf]

I might as well list what I have hehe... uhh let's see...

RC10T3 Team kit
M8 radio
Novak Mercury Receiver
Tekin G-10 Speedo
Airtronics 94257-z hi-speed servo
P2K Pro stock motor
Robinson Absolute spur and pinion gears
Proline Bowties/Step-pins/Edge tires
Match packs 1700/2000/2400
DuraTrax Intellipeak Digital Charger

Hmmm I think that's about it and that's about all there will be. Perhaps a new speedo. Thinking about that new Quantum. But if I get that, it'll go in my touring car. Oh yeah, that RPM blue gear cover is on the way along with a Proline GMC lowprofile Sierra body. Oh yeah, and perhaps some bearings for steering. Hmmmm that's it!
:D I think hehe.

Mike

[oodlesonoodles2001]

i got a question, is the rrp Absolute pinion/s[ur really all that quiet?

[Trucks]

yes, they are the quietest I have (not) heard, but they are real soft. so have to make sure you get the gears right when changing motors.

[oodlesonoodles2001]

k thanx, i was wondering if i should get some with my new Speed Gems.

[KilRuf]

I really can't say if they are that quiet. I guess in a sense or to a point yes. But not like total quiet... I don't think hehe. I dunno... we had a nitro truck running in out stock truck class cuz he was the only one. So it was hard to hear our cars hehe.

Mike

[RustlerBoy]

Ohh,i knowm, I was just in a hurry and stripped it out because i forgot to tighten it all the way!

I have

T3 Team
Futaba 2PC radio
Bovak Fusion
Cirrus CS 60BBMG servo
P2K
Trinity MaxxPaxx(they suck
RPM gear cover(the greatest!

[RC10T3]

wow, T3s come with bow-ties now?

[RustlerBoy]

uhh, yeah, when did u get your T3??

[RustlerBoy]

uhh, yeah, when did u get your T3??

[KilRuf]

Well just got my RPM blue gear cover today along with my Proline GMC "lowprofile" Sierra body. I have an idea how I'm gonna paint it... I'll post it up when I am finish. It'll have to wait though, got a race this weekend! Gotta practice tomorrow!

Mike

[ttweedle]

Kilruf, What tires are best up at your track, Pepl using steppins here in Fayetteville. Fixing to buy some new tires want to get the best ones, Wore out my bow ties on the pavement in front of my house. Also They use the Edge tires in fayvil also I was looking at blades, need some info on what to use when and where...Any help is appreciated...BTW already ordered some street tires to so I won't have to buy new offroad tires as soon next time...LOL :D

[KilRuf]

Well I use Edges up front and Bowties in the rear. But other people seem to use Step-pins. I just bought some myself and will be using them this weekend. So I guess Step-pins would be a good start. Do you have a P2K Pro or GM3? Just making sure you have a good stock motor. I use a P2K Pro with gearing set at 22/87. I tried 20/87 but I just seem faster with 22. Might even try 23 hehe. I think the max batts for stock class is 2400. But rules aren't really too enforced here. 3000's have been used. Besides, you should get more voltage out of 2400's anyways. More voltage, more punch for stock class. It's not like you need run time in this class. Heat's and Mains are 5 minutes. 4 heats and how-ever many mains. Hmmm that's all I can think of for now... if you need more. Let me know. :)

Mike

[ttweedle]

I got a p2k pro also, pinion is 20 am getting a 21 and 22 later. Thanks for the info, let me know how those tires work out for you... later

[KilRuf]

Okay, practiced today. I think those step pins work pretty good. The track was very dusty/loose and they ran better than my bowties. Even posted okay lap times with them in that condition (close to race times). Should be even better under race conditions when they wet the track. This was using 21/87 gearing. Also tried 22/87 today too with a faster lap than the 21/87. So I might stick with that. Anyways, gotta clean the car tonight and tomorrow for the race Saturday. I'll let you know how things go!

Mike

[Trucks]

kil, the gearing that running on a dry track may not work as good on a dry track because on a wet track your tires and truck will be picking up dirt form the track. making it weight more and drawing more power form the motor and batteries.
I always run one less tooth on a wet track to make up for this condition. And you may get 1 or two faster laps but it will slow down a lot more at the end of a race,because of the extra heat in the motor. :)

[KilRuf]

Thanks Trucks. I'll try that out in one of my heats tomorrow. Reason I use 22/87 was because I was one lap ahead of everyone except the leader. But if 21/87 will help out some, I'll give it a go. I'll let ya know tomorrow how I do! Welp, gotta get goin and finish cleaning my T3! :D

Mike

[KilRuf]

Well I took 3rd. My fault too, soo much for being courteous. Step-pins work great and so does 22/87 gearing. Took first today in touring cars though! Anyways, I had -1 camber rear, -2 camber front, and slight toe-in. Battery all the way back. Only problem was I kept getting small pebbles in my spur gear. Even with the RPM cover. Hmmmmmm Gotta look into this. Any ideas?

Mike

[rims']

i found some gears for like a buck but the only ones they had were 23 and 83 so i stuck em in my T3.WOW that is alot slower than i thought it would be. :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :(

:cool:

[RustlerBoy]

Yeah, it would be ALOT slower!

[RustlerBoy]

Yeah, it would be ALOT slower!

[rims']

so now they got all the gears i'm bout to go out and get some which ones should i get. i mostly drag against other friends with a p2k so whats good gearing for it to fly.

[pcwhite]

please help I need to know how much a t3 weighs fully assembled with and without a battery. Email me at pcwhite@white-racing.com

[RustlerBoy]

I use a cirrus CS 60 BBMG servo! 22 bucks at Hobby People .net. All you have to do is sand the battery strap and the circle thing where the screw goes in to hold the batt strap about 3 mm, and you arer just fine!

[KilRuf]

I use an Airtronics 94257. They are around $100. But excellent and fast! Fits! If you plan on being in the hobby for awhile, I'd invest in one. The newer ones are 94357. Hitec does sell some cheaper high speed/torque ones though.

Mike

[ttweedle]

I got a question about my steering servo. Its a Hitec 645BB, The thing is it was too big to fit in the space provided, So what did I do? I took my dremel tool and ground off the bottom of the case, Motor exposed... :) I then took some pipe thread tape and covered all the exposeed parts, doesn't look good but is totaly functional. any way my real question is What servos do yall use that fit without modifications? I don't want to have to destroy my next one when this one does go...

[ttweedle]

Thanks for the help. Wrote down the stock #'s for future reference.

[KilRuf]

No problem. I gotta clean off my T3 and take my radio gear off my touring car and back into the T3. I think I'm gonna race there in Fayetteville this weekend. So maybe I'll see you there. Or maybe not due to the unfortunate event that happened today. Take care and chat with yall later.

Mike

[RustlerBoy]

Yeah, I dont knwo what to do now. A cousin of mine lives right next to the pentagon, and my uncle worjks in the WTC.

[rims']

wow i hope that their okay rustlerboy

[oodlesonoodles2001]

Hey Rustler boy, i hope the people you know are ok, please let us know. And alos, i dont mean to be rude, but i want to say a new addition i got to my rc team, a Duratrax intellipeak twin charger, man this thing is slick.

[RustlerBoy]

Yeah, they are fine. Dont know bout my cuz yet. He is on the USS Eisenhower and they turned back to the Gulf.

[RustlerBoy]

Hey, what is a good inexpensive (I.E $50-less) dollar MG servo? My Cirrus keeps cutting out again, so I am going to send it back and get a REAL servo.

[ttweedle]

Well its time to buy that new servo I was talking about. I went to my local track today to practice, for the first time since I bought my truck.(In 5 minutes I would get just at 9 laps. Race yesterday they were getting 10 laps.) Well it was going well for me. I got 3 packs in before all "H" broke loose. My truck rubs the wall then starts to cartwheel, no big deal I think I go look at it, it all looks good so I put it down and start back up, but its tracking to the right really bad, slams into the retaining wall and breaks my f/R A arm... After further inspection I had broken my rear suspension mount as well, Also the impact destroyed my servo. Servo saver didn't save this one... :(
Oh well I guess I have a reason to upgrade. :)

[KilRuf]

Damn, sound pretty bad. I heard about that track. Boards down the sides? You gonna come down this weekend? Dunno because of what's goin on if you'd make it. Anyways, gotta clean up my T3 and get it ready for this weekend. Which one ya gonna order?

Mike

[ttweedle]

Not coming down this weekend, My truck won't be fixed in time. There are boards around the outside curve holding up the bank(dirt), I just happened to hit just the right spot. I am going to try and buy the metal gear upgrade for my servo and hopefully that works. I took my servo apart and the motor isn't messed up so for 16 bucks I can get metal gears for it. If that doesn't fix it, I am going to get something else. I don't really have the money for what I want this month. :(

[ilovemygt]

i used to have a factory team t3 but then i got rid of it and now iam wishing i didnt iam thinking of buying a used team t3 at my lhs for 200 it has all new eletrics novak reactor,mag sport radio,trinity ex spec motor, and 1 1700 batt,brand new tires and rims and new unpainted body the chassis has no scratches on it ethier is that a good deal for 200?

[KilRuf]

Have you checked out the car personally? I mean looked at it? Felt if there is any slop in the joints/suspension (wiggles alot?). Check the motor for cleaniness? Do the bearings role/turn? Just your normal wear and tear. I think an RTR T3 kit would cost about the same except no battery or bearings. Me personally? I don't like buying used stuff. But if it is in pretty good condition, it could be a good deal. If it has any sign of wear or tear... nope not me. I'd get the RTR. Just my 2¢

Mike :p

[ttweedle]

Same as Kilruf here. Used stuff is alot like the lottery. Sometimes you win, and sometimes you lose. I personally feel that going with new guarantees me that winning ticket even if it costs a little more. If you wind up with crap it'll cost you more to get it running than a brand new one, and that will make you really mad. Like the old adage says better safe than sorry.

[ilovemygt]

well the guy let me run it around the shop today everything seemed to be really goood he told me that the person selling it build it used it a few times then wanted to sell it because he didnt like electrics i think iam gonna go a head and get it :D

[RustlerBoy]

Well, anybody know a good inexpensive(40-50) doller metal gear servo??

[gedertr]

Yes

It is a Hitec HS-645MG for about $50 from Tower or a Tower Hobbies TS-71 for about $35. The performance ratings are nearly identical. I have the Hitec on my T3 and the Tower One on my GT. They both seem ok. No problems yet. :cool:

[ttweedle]

Just thought I would bring the T3 back to the top where it belongs! :)

[oodlesonoodles2001]

the 645 is a great servo, i want to put it on my maxx, but cant, too lazy. My conns. are really hot to the motor, and the ESC, and it was running my friends trinity motor, but that is a 27 turn, so what could it be, and the motor was stock. O and the temp. outside was like 89.

[SparkyT3]

I Like the idea of being at the TOP... I was wondering if anybody has converted there T3 into a road runner? I would like to get some slicks to run on really really smooth (new Parking Lot) to medium smooth (residence road)


Now the flip side I am looking somewhere around St. Louis/West ILL to run indoor once winter hits anyone know of a place?

[oodlesonoodles2001]

hey, seems like nobodys replied for a while.

[RustlerBoy]

Hey guys. I am back. This new place is sweet! It is kinda like the R?C Tech Forums. SO, anything happem latly? Still tryin to fibnd a servo. I wiill probably get the TH one or a Hitec 600 series servo.

[ilovemygt]

here is my new t3

team kit
novak reactor esc
futaba mag sport radio
speed gems 14t
promatch 2400'shttp://www.printroom.com/_vti_bin/ViewImage.dll?userid=rc10racer&album_id=37313&image_id=0&courtesy=1

[SparkyT3]

How much faster than a T3 would you expect a buggy to be. I raced this weekend and the buggys (B3's) were in our class pulling 2-3 MPH and 10-18 secs faster than the trucks were. It is my first time racing but I just have a hard time believing that they are that much faster.

What do you guys run for Stock class pinion on a T3? How about the spur. The track does not have a lot of big jumps so I need the speed more than the Torq. I used a 23 that got me too hot so I dropped to a 20. I did alot better with that if I could have just kept all 4 wheels on the ground.

ILOVEMYGT
How do you like your Reactor? I have had a lot of problems with mine. check out my post at: http://www.radiocontrolzone.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=56695

[ilovemygt]

i havent had any problems with mine yet but is only a week old i run deans connectors on mine it hasnt even got hot yet what turn motor are you running?

[SparkyT3]

I have got a TI 14 turn. I have the Deans in as well. If you can I would see if you can return it and upgrade for 20 bucks more at my store I can get a superrooster II. I am not in that situation any more. If you look back at some other posts you will see that many others have had the same porblems and have come to the conclusion that this is a stock motor ESC only. Just a suggestion though. I will be sending mine in this week to Novac. I will tell you how it comes back from them... Good luck with your sounds like your seck out other than that. One other suggestion would be to get the RPM or the HG A Arm Hinges for the rear A arms the HG one are more expensive but are metal and cool...

[ilovemygt]

ill wait till miy screw holes begin to lossen then ill get rpm's it happened to my rc10gt i got rpms for that they work great

[TimmyRC10T3]

He guys Just singed into the forum today. I owna Team Updated T3 and just wanted to let you know you got a new member. I need a new servo. It looks like everyone likes the Hitec 625Mg or 645mg I can'rt remember which one. I will try to get some pics of my truck on here in a coulpe days

[HeatMizer7]

Anybody besides Pro-line make T3 bodies?

[SparkyT3]

Parma Makes some cool ones. You can make almost any 1/10 body work you just have to be a bit creative and use some after market body posts. It works great. If I could I would post my VW Bug body it is sweet I get a lot of complements on it

[syn0s]

$603 Tower Hobbies order for my FT T3! Haven't clicked the "Proceed to Checkout" icon yet, still thinking about it. Got all the necessary startup supplies, FT T3 Kit, Futaba 2PC with standard servos, Associated LRP F1 Pro Reverse (Cheapest Reversing, NO-Limit ESC I could find - $100), running cheapo batteries with a MRC superbrain peak charger. Motors are Speed Gems 9 turn Double and 10 turn Triple... Also paddle tires on Pro-Line rims... This is going to be "Project Sand T3"!!! WOOHOO this is going to be a sand dune racer like nothing else. I was thinking of putting a slot car motor in it later on also so that it will do like 55 MPH out on the dunes. Any advice? I'm new to the T3 also, so gimme some advice!!! hehe

-syn0s

[HeatMizer7]

Anybody else not like how the vehicle forums are set up? I'm not sure how much work the site would need,but you should be able to post specific topics within each vehicle forum. Instead of just having one long thread.

Just my opinion.

Heat

[cucountry]

Hey all, whats up? Im getting back into rc racing after about 10 years off and ive decided to go with associated. This is what im thinking about getting.

RC10T3 factory team
Novak Cyclone esc with Pit Wizard
Novak XXL Synthesised receiver
Trinity P2K Pro (i want to start in stock racing)
Trinity Team Matched 3000's Nimh packs
Hitec 5925 digital servo
Hitec Lynx 3D with spectra module
Intellipeak digital charger

Not for sure what tires yet, its an indoor track in colorado with medium to hard packed clay.

As you can see, my budget is almost unlimited and i want to have the best i can get so i will have nothing to blame but my rusty driving. Will this be a good setup for stock racing? Im also thinking about getting the factory team B3 and race it also. Is it a good buggy? Does anyone race in denver colorado or Ocala florida? Im in denver now but moving to florida next summer and they have an awesome outdoor track. Ok, so any advice on any other items or good tires and other part recommedations would be gladly appreciated.

[SparkyT3]

It sounds like you have it hammered out. A couple suggestions that I would make is the hinge A Arm attachment in the rear is the thing that you will break the most!( you know that thing under the tranny) RPM makes a good after market product for cheap. However it you are unlimited I would go with the HG Cast aluminum piece it looks cool and is Almost unbreakable. They also make light outdrives and the axle housing for the front and rear axles. Next Trinity has a Heat sink that you can attach to the front of the motor. It will save you butt while tweeking that pinion. You need longer 440 screws for it but it works great. When you get that on and still think your running to hot you can now fit a TC3 heat sink onto the motor with minor adjustments.Of course cut off the bullet connectors and solder on DEANS connectors. That is all I have done The tire all depend on the track go meet the people and get the recomindations!!! ENJOY IT, IT IS A HOBBY AFTER ALL!!! Good Luck

[TyceCCSU@aol.com]

CUcountry-reply to you.

Your electronics are top of the line. You may want to add one more key thing since you have the funds. The Novak Pit Wizard is a must have to change your "Profile" in the ESC. Check www.teamnovak.com for recemendations. I race in CT the home of RC car action....so they race at the track from time to time along with drivers like Mike Valintine (top oval carpet driver in the US) Anyway. run your setup stock...right out of the manual. The T3 is very sensitive when landing a jump but is a damn slot car in all other aspects. One trick...since the T3 is lighter and been proven to be the fastest accelorator out of corners and over bumps, tighten up your "driving line". You'll scrub more speed going into the corner but this is where you'll kill the Losi's. You'll be able to hold the low line and stick it there and sail out toward the middle as you hop back on the throttle. Losi's design is very stable and excellent for mod racing. One other thing to be careful about...the T3 is sensitive on the throtle...this is where your "Profile" will come in handy. You adjust the "Throttle curve" to be less sensitive and you can hammer the trigger and in the lead you go.
Depending on your track...(in Connecticut they are small as compared to the others in the country) you may want to switch your motor. However, my P2k Pro's rip off more RPM and Torque than any damn motor out their. Green Machine 3's are junk...to much RPM and you burn up your clutch and tranny trying to laydown the rpm's because the torque isn't there so you compensate with gearing...they work great on dirt oval put not for off road racing.
Other Gear you may be interested in
~Comptition Electronics Turbo 35BL charger...does it all, Cycle your cells, motor break in everything but match your batts.
~P2K's (get one for every heat and main) i.e. 2 qual., 1 Main = 3 motors (this way you don't have to clean it until your home. You'll have a fresh motor every week for every heat/main).
~Dyno -Competition Electronics = best
~JR-XR3 transmitter or Aritronics M-8
Thats it...any's ??? just ask.
~Lathe, Cobra or www.integy.com have great ones.

[cucountry]

Thanks for your input guys. I was going to get the pit wizard and also an intellipeak digital charger but im now going to the the Novak Millenium Pro charger. It has a pit wizard already built in and has come highly recommended. Im definitely getting several replacement parts from HG such as the the A arm hinge brackets and the diffentrial nun and probably the lightweight outdrives. I like the 3 motor idea and i will probably go with that. Like i said, money is no problem. Ill let you know how i do in my first race.

[ttweedle]

Man I wish money was no prob for me...oh well I need to go to work...LOL:D

[T3terror]

I got my T3 about 2-3 months ago and finally raced this week. Took 2nd in Novice A-Main. I want to upgrade my radio and ESC. I made the mistake of getting the basic and thought I would gradually upgrade. Well, before I even put the truck together, I bought ti turnbuckles and bearings. Could have bought the FT for the extra $ . Anyway, I'm thinking of getting the EX-1 Mars, the LRP F1 Pro and a metal gear servo (lost count of how many plastic gears I've stripped). I'll be replacing the 2PC and the Futaba MC230 ESC. I will also be getting some batteries from Integy (2400 most likely) and I just bought the MRC Super Brain 959 (see Nov RCCA). Do these upgrades sound OK? I want to be ready for the NORRCA Off-Road Winter Nationals in Dec at my lhs. Any suggestions you guys might have are greatly appreciated.

[TyceCCSU@aol.com]

T3 Terror....what kind of buget do you have? See what i can give you for advice.

[T3terror]

I've got about $600 to spend.

[ttweedle]

Just a note to let everyone know that my T3 is going to be tearing up the track this weekend, so long as the weather holds up. I practiced this afternoon, so people better watch out! LOL:cool:

[TyceCCSU@aol.com]

Here's your chance to brag...what hop ups do you have??
Here's my list

Factory Team T3
MIP Gold Shock Shafts
RPM Front/Rear Bumper
RPM Titanium tie rods
Lunsford Titanuim Shock Mounts
Blue Aluminum Front Chassie Brace (Custom machined) w/ Billet aluminum mounts (when racing oval!)
Rubber sealed ball bearings
HPI 5 star crome rims
Futaba high speed high torque servo
Custom titanuim servo tie rod
Custom Graphite Oval Chassie (Engineering project)
MIP shinny CVD's
Amoroso Aluminum out drives
Aluminum Hindge pin/rear brace
Titanuim hindge pins
Robinson Clutch
Carbide Diff Balls
RPM gear cover
Cyclone 2 ESC
Novak XXL reciever
P2K's power this bad boy.

[TimmyRC10T3]

T3 Team Updated
LRP F1 reverse
Futaba Magnum Sport
Hitec 645mg Servo
Trinity Match 2400
RPM Clawz 6 spoke rims
Proline Road Hawg Tires.
Titanum Turnbuckles
Trinty Speed Gem Ruby 16T Triple
Top Speed 25-27 MPH
Gearing 20/87
Biggesy Jump: AmericanRaceway.com tracks double.
Thanks all I got for now. Hope to get some flashy aluminum for christmas

[HeatMizer7]

Hey guys. I have a T3. Well as you all know,bowties and fuzzies don't last very long. I really like the tires,but the price of Prolines is well......nothing to like.


Does any other company make quality resonably priced 2.2 truck tires? Will losi tires fit associated rims?

10-12 dollar a pair....I can deal with.

17-18 dollars a pair. Give me a @#$*! break.

[TyceCCSU@aol.com]

Yes all off road tires rated as "Truck" or 2.2'' tires will work. associated, Losi, Proline etc...they will all fit a losi, associated, HPI etc.
And I agree that this hobby is far to over priced for parts. I mean common, 18-20 dollars for a tire 1/10 that of a real tire. $hit, you could get a 20,000 mile 13'' tire for a car with 30-40 dollars.

[RustlerBoy]

Yeah, tires get REAL e3xpensive.

[TimmyRC10T3]

If you guys are running off road tires on road it just doesn't work. Spend 25 and get road hawgs or something like that. The will last about 3-4 times longer than fuzzies or step pins. Even holeshots aren't that bad. This is what I did. The only downfall is you have to know which you are going to do on or off road. The roadhawgs get bad traction in grass unless you go slow. Though dirt all over though too. pebbles they handle to. But holeshots and step pins tear up grass but don't run them on the street. If you run like I do about 60% on road 40% off road get a set of road hawgs. Also RPM makes some nice rims. If you want a pic of tires and rims email me at Tapviper@aol.com Always looking for a way to show of my truck

[TyceCCSU@aol.com]

Thanks for the recemendation but the road tires will never work for competitifve racing. The rubber compound for the on road tires is harder. In addition, when you race your as good as your money will let you be. In addion to that, practice and your technical skills will help. I never run my race trucks out side of the track. To much waer and tear for no reason.

[TimmyRC10T3]

Good Point. I do run off road tires at the track of course. But since I am only 16 I don't get to the track very much. I run my truck outside every day the suns out unless its broke. Let me tell if I didn't buy these on road tires I ganutee I would be buying another set of off roads right now. Good Luck with everyones tires selection

[Lowrider170]

Anyone bash with there t3 becouse i am thinking about geting a t3 team kit.I just want to see what you guys think.All i am gonna do is just bash.I might race once are twice if i can find a track around here.

[JimmyMac]

Well if you are gonna mainly bash, don't get the Factory Team kit. The Team kit would be okay, but not the Factory. I say this because the Factory has the Graphite parts. Graphite may be lighter, but it's more fragile (or less forgiving/flexible). Do you already have radio gear and all? If not the RTR kit would be a good deal to bash on. Only thing would be to buy a bearing kit for it. This will help make things smoother and last longer. Hope this helps out some! :)

Mike

[TimmyRC10T3]

I am a T3 Basher. I am 16 and my brother is 13 and we bash our truck almost ever day. We got the tem updated kit and ordered titanum turnbuckles. It is a great basher in my opinion. Only broken 2 rear a-arm mounts since april. We also broke 2 plastic gear servo's and finally got a metal gear one. I would also recomend a e-maxx for bashing. The have at least twice as much ground clearance and they are 4wd. Not many places have aclass for them though. They are also not as fast as a t3 or handle as well. Good luck with whatever you get

[Lowrider170]

I might get the RTR T3 i am also thinking i might get a epede but i dunno which one i want to get I know thay are both sweet trucks.But the RTR t3 has better elecs then the epede has.Anyone ever see a rtr t3 and are thay very strong?