TLO1 Racing Forum v1.0

[phatvw1]

I might even post some on my new website... I passed up on painting it this weekend. It'll be done by next weekend.

[MrHorspwer]

Another question from the newbie here. Manta-Ray ball diffs... what is the advantage? TL01's have a front and a rear diff... do I need 2 Manta-Ray diffs to fill them both? Can I purchase one now and be cool... then purchase the other in a little while? Just curious because I can pick up one pretty cheap... but if I need two, I dunno.

[Crazy Canuck]

The ball diffs are much more adjustable, you can get much better performance out of the car if yoiu use them.

I have gotten a set of ascosiated VCS shocks to fit my TL01. It took some hacking, and I had to drill some of the holes a bit bigger to make it work, but it works now. Pretty nicely too.

[phatvw1]

Guys, I've hit a road block... my LHS doesn't have Tamiya polycarb paints:mad: so I will be improvising with Pactra Daytona Yellow and Competition Orange to get something close to Tamiya's Camel Yellow. It will be done today though (hopefully)...

[TRF Drive Hard]

Using the 03 ball diffs work too...;)

[Aluma]

you guys sound like you know what you're talking about....maybe you can help me out.... I'm pretty new to R/C and I got a tamiya car.(flame suit on) anyway, its got red springs which are soft and comes with this orangy oil.... its too soft a setting (figured that out cuz the car sparks sometimes) I adjusted preload and helped but not enough. I got the tuned spring set and i'm thinking blue front and yellow rear(firm, medium) but I have no idea as to what oil to use. my LHS only carries associated...would you guys know what weight matches the blue and the yellow springs given all shocks use 2hole disks inside?


I once put 30 wt with the stock chrome springs and the car looked like a pogo stick...I DONT want that to happen during the race!

[TRF Drive Hard]

I use hard shock fluid... i like the firmness... works well on a smooth clean black top or pavement... reduces the cars chances of leaning on one side during a turn... plus if you lower your ride... btw, i also use blue firm springs... no bounce at all!


Hey guys, i just got another tl01... this time i have the Supra :cool:

[MrHorspwer]

Well, I had my first track session with the TL01 this afternoon (not my car,a friends). Spent a few hours of pratice at the local carpet road course. Interesting story. Started out with the stock motor and foam carpet tires. It was fun, slid around a bit, and was very slow. After 2 run, I went to my 15T Team Orion and coated the tires with TQ traction compund (only compound allowed at the track). Well, it had grip... too much. Comping into hard corners (even not so hard ones), the car will either pitch itself up on two wheels and require countersteer to keep it on the ground (which usually results into a meeting with the board) or completely roll over... sometimes rolling over the boards and off the track:eek: We tried everything in our power to correct this. First off, we lowered the car with 2 o-rings... has minimal suspension travel now. After the TQ wore off, it was still sliding a bit so we tried to only put the TQ on the inside of the tires thinking the outside would do the biting coming into corners. Wrong, still flips. We even tried mixing foam tires with our beater tires... which only led to very unpredictiable handleing. Is the center of gravity so high on the TL01 that it tends to flip when it has traction? I'm sure much of this can be corrected with a REAL set of shocks. Until then, what can I do to have some pratice fun? The body is already pretty much destroyed... but would a new, lower body work better (such as a Stratus... it is a Celicia GT-Four now) to keep the CG lower to the ground. This is a friends car I am speaking of... mine is awaiting a ball diff and torn apart. My body is even taller than his Celicia though. I am also planning to run HPI X-Pattern tires on carpet... is this a good choice? Basically... what can I do to keep all 4 on the ground?!?

[Saboteur]

Try running oil filled shocks, and lower the tl01 till you get about 5 or 4mm of ground clearance. The HPI x patterns are good for asphalt and i dont think they'd have good traction on carpet. What kind of foams are you running? Go with proline medium, or soft foams...those are pretty good.

[Saboteur]

Hey TA03...gonna get the elecs for my tl01, as well as pick up a set of foam tires and maybe a mod motor to run at my track. Its pretty big and I'd like my tl01 goin atleast 35-40mph. Anything else would be slow and not as fun anyway...lol :D

[HillBilly1]

Im the proud owner of the rolling tl-01. What a riot today i have medium plo-line 24mm foams, we set the ground clearence to about 4mm and stiffend springs, im believing this is an ashfault car more than a carpet car, we were the only ones out there doing summer-salts with a car. Seems the wieght is to high for a high grip track, but it is a lot of fun.
With a hole lot of work you could keep it on 4 wheels (sometimes 2) and make it around for a lap or 2. But good news for the tl-01 owners going to the carpet, it seemed to land back on the wheels 98% of the time :D Beware of the boards there not body freindly at all lol.
Do most of you in this forum run ashfault?

[Saboteur]

I would go to bruckner and run indoor carpet one day, but for now its a big ol floyd bennett field, zippin around on fresh asphalt. Need a nice mod motor for my tl01 to keep up with the nitro's. :)

[MrHorspwer]

The hillbilly has finally made a post! I went with the x-pattern HPI tires on the recommendation of their website that they made a good carpet tire. We will see I suppose. If they don't work out, I'll use them as an asphalt tire... anything is better than the stock kit tires for that.

[TRF Drive Hard]

Teeehaw i just got another TL01:D i got the Supra:p


Hey Sabo... what kinda electrics for your tl01???

[Saboteur]

I plan on getting a cyclone, or maybe a tc2 for my tl01. Also a p2k pro motor, or speedgems mod motor. If my lhs gets the p-94's, I'll get that instead. More speed on my track is always fun :) I was gonna get a nitro sedan but its gonna cost me like 300 to get a decent one with engine to do bashing/racing. I'd rather have 300 in my tl01 and i wont really need anything else. :)

[MrHorspwer]

My TL01 update here. Installed my TA03 ball diff and adj. tie rods this evening. I haven't done any real tuning with it... just had one run this evening with it. I set the toe to about 0 degrees and the ball diff to what I thought was tight enough(?). I don't know if I was expecting a HUGE gain from it... but I dunno. I had my crappy stock tires in the street in front of my house. It seems to be able to pull itself out of corners a whole lot better if I jumped on the throttle mid-corner... but that's about it. I didn't have a chance to try any high speed cornering because the street is too narrow... I wonder what will happen. Are these pretty much the gains for a ball diff... or should I take it apart again and tighten it up more? I still have some more stuff coming for it... carbon prop-shaft, Tower Hobbies 27T Speed Stock, and TRF shocks are all on their way :D

[Aluma]

well, my experience with ball diff, says that if you tighten it more you will lock it... becoming basically a positraction diff which means you'll get more oversteer... and from my racing with my ex TL01, it needs it!

[Killer_TL01]

my TL01 update...CRASH..dang. another part broken and another reason to spend money on making it better. I love breaking parts(although this is the first actual part that has broken all of everything else has been bearings and stripped gears). Allwell. Thats life for ya. You have fun..junk happens and parts break. You'll have that from time to time. Future plans for my TL01 is the long arm set, threaded shock bodies, and some other kinda stuff. peace out.

Killer_TL01

[phatvw1]

MrHorsepower, what tires did you get stock??? From what I remember, you got a Lancer Evo, right? Are they treaded rally tires??? I got slicks with my Opel V8 coupe...

KillerTL01, does the long arm set make it a true 190mm car? (i know tl-01's are actually 182-185mm wide) How much is the track widened?

To everyone else...

Before I glue my tires on, should I get a set of inner foams to fill my stock tires? Any handling improvements from this?

BTW, I am quite displeased with the weather in Montreal... Most of the snow had melted three weeks before Easter only to have mother nature drop another 2-3 feet of snow in the past week and a half, delaying my inaugural run.:( :mad:

[Saboteur]

You dont need the long arm suspension kit. It just moves the shock position out a little more. Buy the Hpi wheels with offsets, and you can use the 3mm spacers, to make it 190mm, or make it 196mm. heck, make it as wide as a nitro sedan :D I dont run foams inside my stock tires on my tl01, and it performs pretty well. I also ran it offroad, and the car rarely slid around. Yeah with some medium foams, the tires will have more grip and better wear.

[phatvw1]

Good to know... all it does is change the susp. geometry so that the car has better handling when changing directions such as cornering (an inherent characteristic of placing the shocks closer to horizontal than vertical...)

[DamianD1]

The Long Arm Kit does not really widen the car (may be 2mm at most), but it really changes how the car handles. It does more than only changing how the shocks are attached, it widens the space between the suspensions shafts.
Besides, you get the stabilizer bars and the stainless steel suspension shafts.
I think it is one of the more worthy hopups for the TL01.

[phatvw1]

Stabilizer set is a-coming...

Just wondering, how did your cars handle stock? I've noticed that it understeers heavily at full throttle and lifting the throttle would tuck the nose in nicely and have pretty neutral handling.

[Aluma]

i wouldnt bother with the rear stabilizer... it prevents the rear suspension from fully functioning. The end bell of the stab. gets stuck on the cover of the propeller shaft, and only allows half of normal suspension travel.

That and i didn't notice much of a difference in handling... you might want to invest on the tuned spring set instead...and that long arm susp... if you need more steering, just toe out a bit... its way better! :D

[MrHorspwer]

Toe-out up front is the way to go! I can't believe how much more steering that gave the car. Oil shocks really helped on the body roll. Even the stabilizers that come with the long arm aren't all that great. There is so much deflection in the links and ball ends that, unless FULLY loaded, the bars never even have an effect.

[phatvw1]

So the turnbuckle tie-rod setup is a better solution? It's already too late, though... I ordered the stabilizer bars and should be picking them up in a couple of minutes (I found a hobby shop just across the street from my college:D ) I guess I'll order the turnbuckle setup tomorrow or Monday.:rolleyes: As for the pics of the Opel that I have mentioned, they'll be coming soon. I just haven't finished my roll of film. I wish I had a digi cam.

[Hypenotist]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1725696131&indexURL=2#ebayphotohosting

Now that is a nice TL-01! Looks like he has the reserver really high though, buy it now at $300 lol.

[Saboteur]

Great.now I can see where the debris settles in the chassis. lol :D :)

[cannonball]

Hi all -

I haven't raced my TL-01 for a few years now, but they are great cars, strong and cheap and very easy to work on!

I haven't done a lot of modifications to the chassis, I've added a Baja Champ front bumper and rear FRP chassis brace! The car was ran stock, no upgrades, you were allowed to add parts from other Tamiya Cars as long as it came standard in those kits! So oil filled shocks, No 2 pistons and 100wt oil up front and 80wt in the rear with FF02 black springs and a lightweight chassis were the only things added!

One Hop-Up I would recommend is inside the gearboxes where the moldings are for the suspension arms is to fill the hollow part with a resin, fibreglass or polyfiller, this should prevent the plastic giving way after a few hard crashes!

Great Forum Lads

Enjoy your Racing!

[JT3518]

I just got a TL01 Ferrari Modena for my birthday, it's a great little car however as there is no LHS in my town I am hoping someone who has bought the Tamiya bearing set can tell me what the four little bars are for in the set. I can get the 1150 bearings tomorrow but If I want thr Tamiya kit I will have to wait week for it to arrive.
Do the bars warrant me waiting or don't they deliver any benefit?

[DamianD1]

JT,

They are lightweight hollow versions of the gear shafts. You do not need them. If you want to replace the original shafts, get the TL01 Hollow Carbon Gear Shafts from Tamiya (Part # 53322).

[JT3518]

Thanks Damian,
I'll order the bearings.
Another question. I have a esc capable of taking 14 turn motors at the moment I have a 19 turn motor and I'm running a 23 tooth pinion gear, the motor gets extremeley hot, I'm assuming the bearings will help the heat but should I get a better motor? this car is purely for bashing and I like the speed the 23t pinion delivers it's just a little tardy off the mark. Will a 15 or 16 turn motor deliver more torque or more top end speed, it's the speed I'm most interested in but I don't want to over heat everything?
What do you run in yours?
Thanks

[DamianD1]

The bearing should help a lot with your heating problems, but if it is still too hot try to reduce the pinion size.
A lower turn motor should give you more RPMs but it will also demand more amps.
There are other options that will reduce the total rotating mass, like the Hollow Carbon Shaft Set, the Carbon Prop Shaft and the ball differentials.

[JT3518]

There is a hell of a lot of play in the wheels on my car. The axels move about 3-5mm meaning the wheels move as well.
Is this normal? Can I make the wheels run true?
Also I have the stock steering thingy's and my wheels seem to have a slight toe-in, is this normal or should it be straight?
Thanks

[DamianD1]

JT,

You should not be having that kind of play. Are you sure you did everything according to the instructions? Did you install the o-rings between the dogbones and the axles?.

If I remember correctly, a little toe in is normal with the standard steering. I replaced the standard steering with some Lunsford titanium turnbuckles some time ago, so I am not completly sure.

[JT3518]

I have four "o" rings installed between the gearbox joint and the dogbones. Should there be another four for the axels?

[rceleetness]

hey guys im keen to buy another car and i can get hold of a tl-o1
brand new for 90$ si ti worth it it has only been used once !
can i get hop ups ? wil it be worth it ?
my other car is a tao3f so im keen !
or u think i should wait ?
how much are those long arm extensions ?
where can i get those ?
anythign else u can recomend to hopup ?
thanks

[TRF Drive Hard]

The long arm suspension are about 45 US dollars... ball bearings are a must for the tl01 if you want it to perform at its best... you can look up www.towerhobbies.com they have some hop-ups for the tl01... like the speed tuned gears, carbon prop shaft, stainless steal suspension shafts, aluminum king pins... sway bars, and some others...:cool:

[phatvw1]

Originally posted by JT3518
Also I have the stock steering thingy's and my wheels seem to have a slight toe-in, is this normal or should it be straight?
Thanks There is slight toe-in with the normal steering arms. Since this results in moderate understeer, I will be ordering some turnbuckles for it.

As for wheel play, 3 - 5 mm is waaay too much. Mine move about a millimeter. I can't say for sure regarding what you have to do...

BTW, the stabilizer set is completely useless, as it is interfered by the prop shaft cover... Going to hobby shop next Tuesday and getting some oil-filled shocks and turnbuckles, OR bearings.

[TRF Drive Hard]

I'd get the bearings first... that is the first hop-up before anything else;)

[Saboteur]

Hey Ted(TAO3) do you have the long arm suspension kit on your tl01? Before I didnt have it on my first tl01 kit and I think it did well without it.

[TRF Drive Hard]

Dude sup man... the long arm? i dont have that... i never saw the need to buy it, but... i have this tendency to cause the car to flip on a turn:p but thats on other peoples tl01s i drive lol:D

[fabolousRC]

Hey guys..I found out the best place to buy the bearings: Hobbypeople..get their 4 bearings for 3.99 and you'll get cheaper yet the same quality products than the ones other people are selling. I used it on mine and it works great. Another tip: if you happen to have TB-01 on the side, you can use the stock oil filled coil-over-shock as the replacement of the stock bouncy ones..OR..double your spring with either equal or softer spring rate than stock and your car will be rock solid!

[TRF Drive Hard]

Hey fab huh??? the shock who over what??? if youre refering to the bouncy friction shocks on the tl01 ok... and by replacing those with oiled filled shockes from another kit, ok... i think we have all done that... FYI;)

Tedhttp://www.plauder-smilies.com/cat3.gif

[Saboteur]

Oh yeah fab, my lhs gives free ball bearings with EVERY tamiya kit. Bet hobby people cant beat that deal. :D :p :cool:

[mikepp]

I have had my TL-01 for about three months. The front wheels are not parallel, and no matter what, i can not get the correct trim setting.

Any Ideas?

[Saboteur]

Get the alum turnbuckle set. That should fix things up.

[TRF Drive Hard]

Yah or nay on the long arm suspension?http://www.plauder-smilies.com/cat3.gif

[DamianD1]

TA03,

I would definitely say yes. The only trouble with the Long Arm kit is that it is not compatible with the optional TL01 steering turnbuckes, but I replaced the turnbuckles with shorter Lunsford units and it works great.

[TRF Drive Hard]

Originally posted by DamianD1
TA03,

I would definitely say yes. The only trouble with the Long Arm kit is that it is not compatible with the optional TL01 steering turnbuckes, but I replaced the turnbuckles with shorter Lunsford units and it works great.

Shorter turnbuckles? but isnt the A-arms long? and require longer turnbuckles? i dunno...http://www.plauder-smilies.com/cat3.gif

[DamianD1]

TA03,

The Long Arm Kit does not really change the width of the car. It has a new arm design in order to obtain a wider space between the arm shafts. That gives you better handling and the car is more stable.

The steering knuckles are also changed, so the optional TL01 steering turnbuckles are not compatible.

[minijosh]

i bought a tl01b off a mate and i am turning it into a touring car. the lhs said to junk it and start over. says them, buy our car. yeah right. i have a lightened drive shaft, chassie on the way with speed gears, black rs-540sd sprint motor, 19 21 23 tooth pinions, and full bearing, and i burnt up my msc. can someone hook me up with their old msc or i will buy a used esc off someone. i also need a body. any help would do.
peace

[TRF Drive Hard]

Hey yo... i happen to have a NIB MSC... but youre in the UK... how will i send this to ya?:confused: i'd be happy to give to you... but im guessing youd have to pay for the shipping;)

[JT3518]

What tyres are best for running on asphalt?
I have been through 2 sets of slicks in a month, do radial tyres last longer?

Thanks

[Saboteur]

Try HPI xpattern radials. Those are great tires for running on asphalt and do last for quite a while.

[minijosh]

just give me your address and you can send it thru my military post office. no nukes or poison plz. hehe

[Jimmy33]

Does anyopne know how to seriously raise the ride hight of the TL01 chassis because I have the stadium raider and I want more ground clearance
Thanks
Also do the bearing make a real difference to the performance


James
:confused: :(

[Saboteur]

Get taller shocks for the stadium raider. Ball bearings make your parts last longer, cuts down friction, and lets your car accelerate and operate smoother. Might get 1-2mph increase in speed. OH yeah remember the stadium raider is just a tl01 slapped with baja style tires, and wheels, and a semi monster truck body(same as on the tamiya mad bison and the wild dagger. So you can just buy the arms, sedan tires and rims, and a touring car body and you got a sedan :) Also the stadium raider isnt that wide (about 8inches, and on high traction surfaces it may roll over, especially at high turns. But dont let this discourage you, have fun with it. :D :cool: BTW, what elecs do you have in it?

[Saboteur]

Oh yeah, here is a cool project you can do with your stadium raider. Since it uses all tl01 parts, buy the alum upgrades or delrin parts, a nice pair of offroad shocks, and nice mod motor and esc, and you have a super baja style truck! :D :cool: :)

[Jimmy33]

Thanks I'll see what I can get at the local hobby shop the ball bearings are already on order! Getting some 77mm shocks from JP just got to find some upgrade parts!

[stargate]

I NEED HELP

something is wrong with my car...im not getting full tyme 4-wheel drive.....wassup with it????:confused:

[cow on wheels]

you cant really increase the ride height of the tlo1 anymore than it is because if you stuk longer shocks on it they wood hit the lower arm by the big screw thingy that goes thru it ( i tride it an it dont werk) so i woodnt really bother unless ur planning 2 extend the shok tower an make new holes 4 the shoks2 screw into

[Linkin Park fan]

I am getting impatent. I ordered one from tower(supra) and it will be her on either Thursday, Frinday, Saturday, or Monday. Hoping Thursady cuz i really want to build it. Have a Suberu body from my QDS and hoping to use that for now till i paint the Supra. I wonder how a fully huped-up TL-01 would do at the ROAR Nationals? Last question, could i use an Electrical saw or a dremel to cut graphite?Also heard that if u go over the same spot with a hobby knife bout 30-40 times u can cut through the graphite? Is that true?

Thanx

[Saboteur]

I believe a fully upgraded tamiya tl01 with a good driver will do well at the ROAR nationals. I guess you can use the dremel or can file down the graphite parts. As for the scratching with a hobby knife...i'm not sure....nor think its the safest way to file/cut down graphite.

[fabolousRC]

hmmm..I was gonna repeat myself...

Sorry Saboteur..I haven't been in the board lately...I'm trying to get at least my brother's TL01s up and running again. It's good that your LHS hand out free BB for every Tamiya kit. America's Hobby Center used to have that but then they ran out of stock! about my TB-01 to TL-01 shocks well it works out pretty well (till it got stolen) other than a binding problem that one of my front suspension arm happen to have other than that the tipping over disappeared. My next project with my brother's car is probably going to be with Orion Rush 15X2 motor and speed gear in addition to full ball bearing. I have the double spring set up with his car (which is the cheapest and most effective set up I ever found) and I'll let you guys know as soon as it's running.

[Saboteur]

Cool that would be a sweet project. :cool: Fix that bad boy up:D

[Poolboy51]

Dos anyone have a link to see a full list of the TL01 and TB01 cars and pics?:confused:

[TamiyaBMW]

TA03F ownz :p

[fabolousRC]

Poolboy...that would be on tamiyausa.comTamiya R/C Mini Catalog (http://www.tamiya.com/english/rc/rcitem/kit/kit58011.htm)

[DamianD1]

Does anyone know of any wheels that will give you more than a 2mm offset?. I have some 2mm offset wheels and the 3mm spacers, but the width of my TL01 is still only 192mm.

[Saboteur]

Is your tl01 only 192mm with the long arm suspension kit and 2-3mm spacers?

[DamianD1]

Yes. If I use only my TL01 with HPI 2mm offset wheels it gets to about 188mm, and if I use the spacers it gets to about 194mm.

The thing is that the long arm. susp. kit does not really make the car wider (maybe a little bit). What is does is change the arms geometry for a better one.

That is why I am searching for wheels that have more offset than 2mm, in order to increase the width to be able to use 200mm bodies without looking strange.

[Saboteur]

Ahh ic. Can I just make my tl01 a perfect 190 by just using the wheels with 3mm offset and the spacers?

[DamianD1]

Yes you can.

[Saboteur]

Well thats good. Dont need the long arm suspention kit then :)

[TC3NME]

I run a ft tc3 on oval and need to know the best set up for a 4 sec. asphalt track coated with coke for traction.

I have a gm3, quantum esc, futaba pcm radio, and 5945 servo.

any help is appreciated.

[Jimmy33]

Dudes just fitted the suspension and ball bearings dam it's a good handling truck now!

[Saboteur]

Glad to hear that Jimmy. I knew it would work. :) BTW, what esc and motor are you running?

[fabolousRC]

First Race Report:

Result: LAME!! I didn't install all the bearings nor the motor (I got a technigold instead) and I got ran over by the 04s, TBs, Yoks, and HPis.. :(

Me and my brother vowed that we'll be back next week with some punch (he's gonna build his TA04S instead) and I'm gonna bring my baddass TB-01 (I just got one with a carbon shaft installed....yipee!!)...and the result? Well..wait till next tuesday night :lol:

[Saboteur]

Man that sucks. Better luck next time man.:)

[fast&furious]

is the tl-01 competetive with other touring cars? once modified? just wondering

[Saboteur]

It sure is. I didnt really need to add lots of upgrades to compete against others in the class I raced at my track. On my first tl01 kit(which was my first rc) I had bearings, tekin rebel esc, 15x4 motor, oil filled shocks, alum mod shaft, hpi x pattern radials, stock calsonic skyline body, and thats about it. I still whooped some butt, but i sold it to buy a nitro. But now that I have another stock tl01 kit and my lhs has tons of upgrades, Im gonna get my hands on some of em alum and delrin goodies. :D :) But for now, Im going to try to get a nice esc, low turn motor like an 12t, turn buckles, 21t pinion, foam bumper and maybe some shocks. Ill get the rest of the stuff later. Or, I can get all the alum goodies I want now and get the esc and motor l8er....HMMM.... :cool: Oh yeah and good driving skills will make you a winner. :)

[phatvw1]

I've disappeared for a while because I've been working my a** off to avoid the "poor University sutdent" title, but I'm back. Finally got around to my LHS and bought a Duratrax Streak ESC. Next up should be new stock and mod motors, BB's, X-pattern tires, susp hop-ups, etc...

As for the TL-01 being competitive, definitely yes! One of the guys at the LHS still runs his TL-01 w/16T, ball-bearings, and several other mods and sends everyone back to school at the end of the day.

[ShinHed]

Originally posted by fabolousRC
First Race Report:

Result: LAME!! I didn't install all the bearings nor the motor (I got a technigold instead) and I got ran over by the 04s, TBs, Yoks, and HPis.. :(

Me and my brother vowed that we'll be back next week with some punch (he's gonna build his TA04S instead) and I'm gonna bring my baddass TB-01 (I just got one with a carbon shaft installed....yipee!!)...and the result? Well..wait till next tuesday night :lol:

Go TB01!! I really want to know how things workout. I also suggest you do some research that carbon shaft.

[fabolousRC]

Shinhed...I know my buddy at the track who also runs TB01 said that I should switch to aluminum. The thing is, the newest TB01 came with the carbon shaft..I didn't put it in there, the guy I bought it from gave it to me with the car. I still have a couple of the old shaft just incase.

My next problem is...everyone runs stock motor and I only have modifieds. I might be able to get some stock motors before the race or whichever i can get my paycheck liquidified or run silver cans :eek:

[phatvw1]

A good stocker shouldn't set you back THAT much! Don't try the silver can trick. Others will know immediately by the difference in acc'n... don't be cheap.

[fabolousRC]

No..I mean stock stock silver can :o :mad:

[phatvw1]

I mean... yeah... ummm... actually running silver cans ;) (those things are slow!) Not like I know the OTHER silver can trick... :rolleyes:;) :o

[Jimmy33]

Man I love my TL01 just got first place in the touring cars, rally cars and the stadium truck - all with the same chassis, but different wheels, tyres and bodies. Man the truck suspension set up under a touring car body gave some interesting handerling manovers with about 2cm of graund clearents and the body as low as it could go!

[matman3]

Help! I just got a really good deal on an Almost new TL01 but it's missing a few parts. Could someone look up a couple part numbers for me so I can order them. I need a pinion gear cover and steering servo mounts. Thank you very much for any help.

[Usagi]

cover part number...........50736 (B-Tree)
Servo mounts....................50737 (C-Tree)

[r/c car freak]

I have two q's. Is there a ball diff for a TL01? And the other is the MIP universal CVD driveshaft going to work in a TL01 If not what would. Any help is appreciated.

[DamianD1]

RC Car Freak,

You can use the TA03 Ball Differential, Tamiya part # 53267.

There are no direct CVD replacements for the TL01 from MIP, you can use the ones from Eagle Racing, at the Integy web site. Thery are called TL01 TSDs. They work great and they come in pairs so you need two sets.

[Aluma]

for those of you wanting a 190 mm wide TL01.... what for? if the tires sink in a bit theres more protection from the body.

part break if they get hit, but the wheel well takes a beating.

[Usagi]

you can use ta02 cvds.............. A ball diff will really help!

[Aluma]

Just curious.... Has anyone ever entered a TL01 into a "MAJOR" race anywhere and won, or even placed in the A main? Now, I'm not talking about Tamiya TCS box stock spec races... I mean world level or national championships...

seems like its kinda of a bummer to spend almost 400 bucks to fully hop up a TL01 and find that its not really even competitive.


Although...this is what I thought would make a monster racing TL01:

Light chassis, long arm sus, turnbuckles, quick release batt holder, integy cvds, alum drive shaft, carbon gear shafts, delrin gears, threaded aluminm shocks, ball diffs, ( i even found a front one way for this thing but i dont like that setup).. bearings, titanium screws... and it comes out to about 400 bucks(just for parts)

:eek: :eek:

kinda glad i got my tb evolution 2 now... i havent had to really hop anything "UP" just got rid of the one way...and replaced 2 broken parts from racing....and i havent even gone over 300 bucks yet on it! :D

[r/c car freak]

Is that Ta03 ball diff ajustable.

[fast&furious]

i've only driven my tl01 a few times but it seems to handle pretty well. even though the motor is not too fast it still seems very stable while turning. pretty soon i'll be putting in a new faster motor and will see how it handles then and maybe race it against other touring cars soon.

later

[Usagi]

Well if you me if you can limit slipage well sort of.but not that much.

[r/c car freak]

basically it is locked or not locked and no in between. right

[minijosh]

well, monday was my first race ever and i was impressed with the whole kit. i had a tl01-b and made it into a touring car. i have full bearings and a aluminum drive shaft and that is it. I raced the rookie race and broke a front arm of a TC3 in the meantime. hehe. i totally thrashed my ta03 skyline shell. sad day. has anyone made a aftermarket foam bumper for the tl01 or do i have to make one? i bought that 15x2 orion rush from tower hobbies for 22 bucks with shipping. not bad i say. i started out in 4 in the first race, snatched 3 in the 2nd race, and on the 3 race, i was winning until my motor wire got caught under my rear tire and snapped it off. beware of the wire grabbing carpet monster people. does everyone lay down their esc in the bottom of the open bay? i stand my up and my receiver lays down. is that good or does it not matter?

[DamianD1]

You can get the foam bumper for the TL01 from www.megatech.com

[Usagi]

Those megatech parts do look good. For the TL01 prices well alittle steep.........But never the less durable.

[phatvw1]

After yesterday's day of bashing with my buddy, I'm now considering the Megatech bumper, or a custom version similar to it...$30 is a little steep for my liking.

[phatvw1]

How does one tighten up the stock diff?

[DamianD1]

I do not think you can tighten the stock gear diff.

[Jimmy_GT-R_617]

Nope u cannot tighten the diff up mechanically but u can make it a little tighter by putting some thick heavey duty grease in the diff, this will make it a little tighter. Just put some on the gears in the diff, then run the car and see how it goes, if its still loose, add a little more until it feels right.

Thanx

Jimbo

:)

[Usagi]

The stock TL01 are "gear diffs" all you do with them is pack them full of grease for diffrent adjustments.

[phatvw1]

That's what I thought...

[JT3518]

What is CA glue and can I buy a substitute from a Hardware store. Ther i no LHS in my town.
I stuck my last set of tyres on with superglue which held them on fine but I couldn't get them off.
Help please.

[Usagi]

Originally posted by JT3518
What is CA glue and can I buy a substitute from a Hardware store. Ther i no LHS in my town.
I stuck my last set of tyres on with superglue which held them on fine but I couldn't get them off.
Help please.

You can boil the rubber off from the rims. As for CA, go to a local shop and ask if they sell CA type glues.

[ShinHed]

:confused:

[Usagi]

never heard for boiling rubber of the rims?!!!!!!!!!!!!!:rolleyes:

[ShinHed]

No, I've heard of this and practiced it a few time too. I made a :confused: face because JT3518 said that there was no LSH in his town to buy some CA glue and then you replied telling him go to a local shop for some:rolleyes:


For the most part, Superglue is CA glue (read the contents) and works just as well for you :D

[Usagi]

CA, is comman........But Only good quiluty should be used.

[phatvw1]

CA glue is composed of cyanoacrylate and most hobby shops carry it... essentially it's the hobby version of Super Glue.

[Dongskie Pinoy]

Originally posted by ShinHed
I'd pay $80 for a tl01 chassis, only if it looked like this. I found it on ebay. Whats the deal with this? Is it an official Tamiya product?

It's TAMIYA made.. Officially!

I found one in Hong Kong and I could have bought it! if I had only seen it earlier after I bought so many hop-ups and parts that i finished off my HK$ pocket money... too bad.. I felt so sad that day..

It's done by Tamiya and it was wrapped too with Tamiya Hop-Up label..

[Usagi]

Originally posted by Dongskie Pinoy


It's TAMIYA made.. Officially!

I found one in Hong Kong and I could have bought it! if I had only seen it earlier after I bought so many hop-ups and parts that i finished off my HK$ pocket money... too bad.. I felt so sad that day..

It's done by Tamiya and it was wrapped too with Tamiya Hop-Up label..



I know this chassy, its a tamiya alright. Its a special part chassy that tamiya sells are their shows. I seen mo3 chassies like this too. Here in Japan we pay around 800 yen for the tlo1 chassy. pretty cool don`t you think?!:p

[racERIC]

Well I had my first race using my TL-01 last night and I did not do too bad! One advantage the car had is sheer durability. I did get into the A main (Novice)

My TL-01 has on it:
Speed Gears
23t pinion
P2K stock motor
Full Ball Bearings
Carbon Main Driveshaft
Anti-Roll Bars (Front and Rear)

I have to install for the next Tuesday night race:
Protoform Dodge Stratus Body
TRF Damper Set

I need to still buy a foam bumper for the front.

BTW: I have clocked my car at 32MPH when I have a Speed Gems 15x4 (Jade) in it!

150ft in 4.08sec = about 32MPH

[racERIC]

Make that:
150ft in 3.2sec = 31.96 MPH

The old time was with a 19t pinion and normal gearing
150ft in 4.08sec = 25.07 MPH

[squirtdebert]

i have a focus wrc tl-01 with no hop ups or anything. i am quite new to rc cars and would like to buy a faster motor. the problem is i dont know much about it and don't know what i would need.

also what are motor turns?

[Crazy Canuck]

Well, you cant do much with the mechanical speed control. Before getting a better motor, you should definitely get an electronic speed control. The difference between them is an MSC burns off power with a resistor, and an ESC switches the motor on/off upwards of 100 times per second, resulting in smoother throttle, faster speeds, and more runtime. Get an ESC before you get a new motor. M Troniks has good budget ESCs, and I believe they are UK based. Futaba also makes some good ones, and Novak + LRP are the best.

Motor turns refers to the number of times the wire is wrapped around the segment of the armature. Its complicated how it works, but basically lower turns = more speed, less runtime.

Also, before you get a motor, either get bal bearings, or get two bronze bushings for either side of the spur gear. The hotter motor will melt the plastic bushings.

A good, fast motor would be a competition stock motor, such as the P2K2 or the Green Machine 3, or a machine wound mod, such as a speedgem motor. 17 turns should be enough, just make sure that if you get an ESC, it is rated for that many turns.

[phatvw1]

First off my fellow Crazy Canuck, doesn't the spur gear have the bronze bushings from the factory? At least my kit did...

Either way, what Mr. Canuck said is true... DO NOT get a hotter motor before replacing the MSC with an ESC and installing ball bearings. The ESC was the first mod I performed on my vehicle, as I knew that it'd be an investment to allow for future upgrades. Novak and LRP are the better ESC's out there, but there are some other ones that great if you are budget-minded. For example, I'm running a Duratrax Streak ESC with Forward/Brake (no reverse) which can now be had for around $40 US from Tower Hobbies (www.towerhobbies.com) and is rated for 12 turns. Ball bearings are essential and can add 1-3 mph to your car's top speed.

It's a shame you did not ask this question earlier as the August issue featured an article on the 4 most important hop-ups for any RC car. They even used a TL-01 as their test car. Check out your local magazine shop and see if they still have a copy of the August issue lying around somewhere...

[Crazy Canuck]

My TL01 had plastic bushings all around. Maybe they added the bronze bushings in more recent kits.

[phatvw1]

When did you get yours??? I ordered mine this January... came with solid bronze bushings.

[minijosh]

i got my team orion 15x2 on monday and i am stuck. it is alot faster than my rs-540sd motor but it isn't as free spinning. how do you break in a motor? i have 2 2000 batteries and 2 1400 tamiya packs that work really well with the stock motor but i am not sure about racing them with the new motor. i would like to finish the race with out changing the batteries. i have a esc, full ball bearings, carbon drive shaft, and on the way is the lightened chassis and the anti-roll bars. i was beat down for 2 weeks in a row by a tc3 kid who has been racing 2 years. 3 laps is alot to lose by in my book but i took 2nd place in all 3 races. we are running indoors at a british track( small and very complex) so high-end speed is very minimal. i had better stop playing gt3 and start racing in the parking lot. i run a 19 pinon too.

[phatvw1]

Here's one way to break in a motor (as suggested at about.com)

1) Oil bushings or bearings with one or two drops of oil in each
2) Install motor wihtout pinion, charge battery pack, etc.
3) Run motor at 1/4 throttle for 5 minutes (use the trim on your radio)
4) Re-install motor with pinion...

I have made a few modifications to the steps as some of the original ones were redundant.

[MiniCooperFan]

Hi guys... some of you mentioned the Megatech foam bumper for the TL01... anybody know where I can order one online? Megatech said they dont sell direct, but none of my LHS have it in stock... I tried to order one through www.ahc1931.com, but they never sent me my item... I want to find another place to go...

Thanks.

[squirtdebert]

How can I use a 17t motor, because i thought you could only use 19t, 21t and 23t with the TL-01.

With motors what does it mean if it is for e.g 17x2
What is the x2 bit mean?

[phatvw1]

You can use any motor on your TL-01... it's just the pinion size (the gear on the motor) that is limited i.e. 19-tooth, 21-tooth, 23-tooth. With more powerful motors (low wind modifieds, for example: 10x2) you may need the optional Speed Gear Set

If you understand that the 17 represents the number of times wire is wrapped around each armature 'wing', then you can understand the '2'. This refers to the number of wires used whille wrapping.

In your case 2 wires wrapped 17 times around the armature...

[tl01 rulz]

i just got some blue andonized front knuckles from GPM. I tried to see if it would make a difference and it does. The sterring is tight through the corners. it was worth the money

[fabolousRC]

Originally posted by minijosh
i got my team orion 15x2 on monday and i am stuck. it is alot faster than my rs-540sd motor but it isn't as free spinning. how do you break in a motor? i have 2 2000 batteries and 2 1400 tamiya packs that work really well with the stock motor but i am not sure about racing them with the new motor. i would like to finish the race with out changing the batteries. i have a esc, full ball bearings, carbon drive shaft, and on the way is the lightened chassis and the anti-roll bars. i was beat down for 2 weeks in a row by a tc3 kid who has been racing 2 years. 3 laps is alot to lose by in my book but i took 2nd place in all 3 races. we are running indoors at a british track( small and very complex) so high-end speed is very minimal. i had better stop playing gt3 and start racing in the parking lot. i run a 19 pinon too.

Try buying the 21 or the 23 pinion my friend. My TL01 was FLYING and can keep up with the fancy dancers (that's what I called those expensive cars) with 23T pinion and an old skool Technigold motor!! too bad they don't let me run modifieds :(

About your batteries, man...get at least 2400s or at least a cheap NiMh will help you through the whole race. If you have a motor that has a lot of torque (the singles and the doubles), try 21 teeth or the 23 teeth. the 21 will save your battery with a bit less top speed and the 23 will give you A LOT OF top speed. I don't remember how many turns Technigold is but I can keep up with the rest of the lightweights ie Xray, Yokomos, etc. Use speed gear if you have not either. Those two combination should kill TC3!!!
l;olz

[minijosh]

I had a problem. hehe. i put the non-tamiya 23 tooth pinon on my new stock motor(cyclone 2) and since the pitch is different, i ate my gears. opppps. the lhs explained this to me after i went to a closer store who doens't have anything for tamiya. that will learn me. i bought a Nissan Silvia body for 14 pounds. not bad at all. i now have the correct pinon on my new motor and i installed the anti-roll bar in the front. ready to do buisness now hehe. beware tc3. maybe not yet but no more losing by 3 laps now. maybe 2 if i am lucky and can keep it on the road. has anyone downloaded the driving techs from tamiya.com? i did and i wanna set up a course like those to learn my car to drive. i know how but she doesn't. oh yes, don't put the pinon on backwards either. since i did that, the pinon ate up the outside of the gears and i am still running it even though i have the bits to fix it but if it is still rolling hard and not making a grinding noise, why mess it all up? the grey chassis looks ok.

[minijosh]

did everyone die? am I the only tl01 racer out there now? must be a losi/ae cult trying to capture all the tamiya racers out there. run away if you hear someone say "hey man, wanna go faster?"

[Saboteur]

Nope, we're here.:) Just out there kickin other TC's butts. For Xmas, I plan to get a hitec speed servo, novak esc, p2kpro, 21 or a 23t pinion, foam bumper, 2400mach nicad, and turnbuckle set. The reason why Im gettin these late, is that there is a nitro sedan onsale at my LHS, and I hope to buy it before the sale ends. www.ahc1931.com/neo_specials.html the first kit on the list. THe actually price is $179.99 . Now thats an offer I cant refuse :cool: :D

[MrHorspwer]

My TL01 is still around... haven't gotten much use out of it lately. Having more fun being competitive with my TA04 than losing with the TL01:D Hey, at least the AE or Losi camp didn't lure me away.

[Dongskie Pinoy]

My TL-01 rules our TAC Stock Touring Format race!!!:D

[minijosh]

are you willing to releae the TL01 to another owner since you moved up in the world to a bigger car? I have a boy who wants my tl01. He mows my lawn over here in England and the lhs are way too expensive to buy almost anything from. Even a rolling chassie will start him off.

[trakhak]

OK Boyz!! I am back into racing and the guys in stock class are moaning already! The TLO1 in the hands of a decent driver is capable of winning against the exotics. Of Course most of you know that. The spec class has died but that just means I will be putting a hurt in the stk. sedan class! Will give updates after this weekend! Peace

[minijosh]

Well I am in a forward location for my job and I brought my tl01 with me in the tent. I had the anti-roll bars on the front of the car and it still kind of rolled the car at high speeds and so I moved it to the rear. I cannot run my car here yet because I need a adapter of some sorts to connect it to the power supply. The roll bar sometimes hits the rear plastic part that protects the driveshaft gears. How do I make this not so? I tried to adjust it a little bit but not enough to fix it. I am looking for power pole connectors. Can anyone help me out in finding at least 10 sets? I can send money and stuff so it won't be a problem. Stupid F-16 taking off disrupting my typing.

[fabolousRC]

Originally posted by minijosh
are you willing to releae the TL01 to another owner since you moved up in the world to a bigger car? I have a boy who wants my tl01. He mows my lawn over here in England and the lhs are way too expensive to buy almost anything from. Even a rolling chassie will start him off.

minijosh...I have several Tb01 rolling chassis that I'm trying to let go...it's a bit more complicated that TL01 but it's a lot more durable and more adjustability if he wants to step up. LMK or PM me

[stargate]

SELLING MY CAR

http://www.radiocontrolzone.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=95455

[Nofri]

Has someone pics of a very well tuned TL01? I know that the TL01 is not the perfect car for tuning, but I want to see how far you can go when you tune the TL01 :)

[arceeguy]

Hi all!
I've decided to get into TC racing at my local track, and I am going to race my TL01. Here is a list of the current upgrades/equipment:
Ball Bearings
Adjustable links
Composite prop shaft
DuraTrax AutoSport ESC
Reedy MVP 27T 24° stock motor
HPI belted racing slicks
Traxxas 4-Tec oil filled shocks (arriving next week)

How high should I set my ride height, camber, and toe in/out? My track is extremely smooth and quite technical, the longest straightaway is about 60ft.
I am currently using a 21T pinion, I plan on going to a 23T because that is the recommended ratio for a TC3 with a stock motor.

Any comments/suggestions would be appreciated!

Thanks!

[trakhak]

Arcee guy you must get the wide susp arm upgrade that Tamiya has it is a huge improvement in handling and gives you tuning options. Does not meake the car wider just puts the susp arm pivots deeper into the wheel for better handling and no traction rolls, makes it simular to the suspension on the more exp cars. I have been running this set up for over a year and stay with the exotics and win too! Good luck!

[minijosh]

what is going on? has anyone seen this car yet? it looks like a TB01 to me but what do i know. Nissan Silvia painted red with silver undercoating and white wheels, spoiler, and antenna to off-set the red. Wicked in my book. Even the wife likes it. who here is still racing? i am in a forward location w/ the car hehe and i cannot race out here so it is time to practice practice and maybe practice.

[Grifter]

Originally posted by minijosh
what is going on? has anyone seen this car yet? it looks like a TB01 to me but what do i know.

It's Tamiya's "New" Touring Car. I heard it's based off the TB-01.

Does anyone have a Picture of a 190mm HPI Body sitting on a TL-01 that has the Long Arm Kit?

Thanks!

TT-01:

[TRF Drive Hard]

Try to lower your tl01... tl01s have the tendency to flip!

http://deathshadow.sytes.net:8080/deathshadow/battletech/warhammer.gif

[minijosh]

i think i am going to switch to a tt01. i have never seen a tb01 race but i think it will be a better platform for me. i am a rookie and i need to be able to adjust the car a little more. does someone sell a kit for the tl01 to adjust the toe-inb angle and the camber. thanks for the photo and the mechwarrior.

[arceeguy]

There are several hop-ups to make your TL01 more tuneable. Adjustable upper arm set, (http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p.pgm?Q=1&I=LXGJ56&P=7) adjustable steering links, (http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p.pgm?Q=1&I=LXGJ53&P=7) speed tuned gears, (http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p.pgm?Q=1&I=LXGJ63&P=7) and carbon prop shaft (http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p.pgm?Q=1&I=LXGE91&P=7) are a few of the things available from Tamiya. I have ordered an adjustable aluminum motor mount from Thunder Tech Racing (http://www.thundertechracing.com/) so I can use a wider range of pinions, and can adjust gear mesh so it will be quieter.

[minijosh]

i have now hooked up my 15x2 turn rush motor and it totally rules but it eats my tamiya 1400 sport packs like nothing. the stock cyclone 2 motor i have it fun but i like being able to impress the other guys here with the wimpy tamiya with ballz. what tires are good for asphalt? i have cheap treaded tires but they don't bit the pavement and the slicks are too slick. hehe.

[StalkerStang]

Hey guys, I'm new to this particular thread. I have a TL-01, I bought it as the XB series RTR Mustang Cobra. Stock it was a blast since I've been used to new brites, lol. But then I ditched the 540 stocker for a different stock motor, much faster. But then I started racing it. Now it has new wheels/tires, cut 2 coils out of the front springs, 1 in the back, it has the light weight chassis, ball bearings, P2K2 Pro Stock motor, a custom wing (ugly but functional), and I run with 2400 Peak Performance packs. I have on the way the carbon shaft, stabilizer kit, and a Associated wing. At the local race track I run the top class, and have managed to place between 1st and 3rd most of the time against TC3's, and other flat chassis style cars. I'm very happy with it.

I would definatly reccomend a rear wing, it helped my car so much. Here's a pic, its not pretty but it works.

[TRF Drive Hard]

Here's my set up for my "Type R" TL01...

Light Weight Chassis
Blue Rubber Sealed Ballbearings
Carbon Prop Shaft
Carbon Gear Shafts
Foam Bumper
Long Arm Suspension Kit
Speed Tuned Gears
Delrin Counter Gear (Optional)
Titanium Screws
Quick Release Battery
TRF Threaded Shocks (Hard900 Silicone all around)
High Speed/Torque Servo
Trinity P94 10 Quad
Novak Cyclone TC2

No stablizers... car has a ground clearance of 4mm... car is firmly planted to the ground...

:cool:

[racingtiger]

Does anyone know where I can get this chassis?

[fabolousRC]

Originally posted by squirtdebert
How can I use a 17t motor, because i thought you could only use 19t, 21t and 23t with the TL-01.

With motors what does it mean if it is for e.g 17x2
What is the x2 bit mean?

the term 17T in a motor correspond to the term "turn" meaning how many times the manufacturers or the motor builder wound that copper wire around the armature

the 19,21,23t listed on the side chassis of your TL01 however correspond to how many teeth in the pinion you can use on the car.

the "x2" means how many times OVER the builder wound the copper wire around the armature. Hence, if it goes one time they call the motor single wound or "x1". "x2" means double. It is also known that the more OVER wound you have on the motor (yes, they have sold up to "x6" wound in the past) the thinner the copper wire around the armature will be. Thinner wire means less mass for the armature to turn which also means a higher RPM range. That also means the smaller the wound number is, the more torque the motor will produce.

I hope that helps.

[TRF Drive Hard]

Originally posted by racingtiger
Does anyone know where I can get this chassis?

Thats a question i would like to know... does anyone know WE can get one? or maybe 2, 3, 4, 5, ,6 ,7 8, 9, 10????:D

[trakhak]

That chassis is from a place called clubenthus4fun.com I think in Japan. I dont know if they ever marketed it though? Peace

[SteelCityWheels]

... nevermind, found what I was looking for. :D

[racingtiger]

That link doesn't work.

[trakhak]

If it does not work then they must have gone out of biz. Last night when I couldnt sleep I thought about just taking a piece of fglass and making a plate that would hold a saddle pack. By the way I turned my sedan into a dirt oval car using rally tires on some OFNA wheels and it did fantastic! Took 2nd and TQed!!! Sure did look strange seeing a Mercedes D2 body flying around that track!

[lance_5346]

Hey guys, what's the lowest turn motor you guys have used on a tl01?

[minijosh]

I use a 15 turn gold rush. You can use any turn motor you want, it is the pinion that had to be 19 21 or 23. Not the turns of the motor.

[TRF Drive Hard]

Ive used a 10quad in mine... i had this one guy use a 6single... wicked speeds that was uncontrollable lol :p

[minijosh]

I am a rookie and this 15 turn is still too fast for the narrow track I race on. Plus my largest batteries are only 2000 so my 1400's get eaten up way too fast. Anyone have old cells for trade or sale? I have a os max engine doing nothing but sitting in a box.

[minijosh]

if i used the speed tuned gears, how much faster will my top end speed be and how much slower will the bottom end be? has anyone done the math? i have the stabilizer kit on the rear but i think i am going to swap it to the front. will that make my car harder to roll on carpet?

[StalkerStang]

I might also move my bar to the front, cuz I havn't really noticed anything with it on the back.

[Killer_TL01]

hehehe...the man is back...not really my TL01 is at hoime while I'm here in SC getting my AIT training for my job in the army. As far as I know my TL01 hasnt changed but will be getting an upgrade this christmas. figured I'd say whaz up to all my fella TL01 homies....

Killer_TL01

[noRCforNOW]

hey.. anyone know some informations about the new mugen Type R xB?... is it RTR with the chargers batteries?... is it worth to buy it? its on the new TT-01 chassis.. better than the tl01? tb01?..its only 176$usd on towerhobbies.. what is the top speed? can we compare it to the TC3 RTR? another thing.. is the tl01 beam integra good?


thanx a lot !

[TRF Drive Hard]

I have that beams integra kit... its pretty nifty with the long arm suspension... you think they would add ball bearings to the kit if they're gonna add the long arm... sheesh :rolleyes:

[Aluma]

hey is the TLO1 LA, better than the TA04R?
i already got an tbevo2 and i wanna try a new one...I had the normal TL01...tank. how bout that TA04SS better than the R?
or the TT01 better than the R or SS? I have a TA03R with carbon chassis but have never run it...anyone wanna trade?

[minijosh]

way too many questions on one post there man. i would keep the tbevo if i were you. i have heard nothing but good things about them. my tl01 is all good but no match for the tt01 in my book. i haven't even seen one yet though. i want one hehe.

[minijosh]

the ta04ss is a short suspension ta04 sport. my friend bought one for 120 bucks new on ebay and it came with 2 bodies. nice car but i will stick to shaft driven cars. i have never heard of anyone breaking a shaft in a car yet. shaft is better, stronger, and longer hehe. i probably will get in trouble for that last one. oh well

[minijosh]

a company called carson makes a foam bumper for the tl01 and i just put it on and it looks sweet. finally i was able to get rid of my crappy homemade job.

[stargate]

a company called carson makes a foam bumper for the tl01 and i just put it on and it looks sweet. finally i was able to get rid of my crappy homemade job

megatech makes one also...i got mines a few days ago with a aluminum motor mount

[tl01boi]

i started a project about a month ago i bought a tl01 chass and replaced the motor with a associated ti modefied 5 turn double motor and used a 21 tooth pinion for maximium speed and i used a 7 cell stick pack 3300 mah for maxium time use i added bearings to the car and dipped them with wd 40 added some slick pro touring tires on them and noe i have tested it around my neighbor hood it goes hella fast *vroooooooooooooom* u kan here the gears so loud afetr my house i went to the trck to see the top speed of the car and it topped out at 50 miles an hour and its an electric car i will have pix soon i dropped the car chassis 1/6 of an inch tot he ground to prevent rolling and it burns out so bad the tires get really hott but isnt the fastest i have ever made

[minijosh]

how did you fit the battery pack? any photos? try a 23 tooth pinon and see how much faster that is. do you have the speed tuned gears in it? ball diff's? what kind of shocks?

[tl01boi]

ill try the 23 tooth and i will have pictures of it soon i did not have tuned gears or nething like that other than teh things i mentioned everything is stock and the 7 vell battery stick pack i slid where the stock 6 cell stick goes it barely fitz and since the battery clips are to small i had to look everywhere for one

[Saboteur]

Cool project, but still even though you've used 7cells you'll only get more speed, not run time. Also buy running a low turn motor your run time decreases. But still thats a cool project. BTW what tires were you using?

[minijosh]

where @ in t-town u from? i lived @ mcchord for 3 years. which hobby store do you use? i used to go to the one next to the new theaters in Lakewood called fantasy hobby i think. if you are up in the lakewood mall area, go to the hollywood video on the corner and go into game crazy and ask for ben. he will hook you up with video games. i used to work there parttime. tell him josh sent ya bro.

[tl01boi]

i live by tacoma mall and i used fanasty hobbies and hobbytown usa it just opened over here for my next project im gunna tyr to build an aluminum chassis made for electric touring and its gunna b pretty light since there is gunna b a 4 wheel drive belt and a bar in the middle lol

[SegaBowMan]

So all I have to do is buy this http://www.thundertechracing.com/motormnt.htm motor mount and voila, the TL-01 can use any pinion gear? What about the spur? Is that a trouble spot too? and what pitch are the gears?

[minijosh]

pretty nifty is you ask me. i have never seen that before. what pinon do you wanna use? my 23 tooth with the 15 turn motor is wickedly fast, maybe too fast for little ole rookie me. this is some nice info though. thanks for the website segabowman. U from washington state too?

[marshallgc]

hi,

for my TL-01, i am going to upgrade the motor from the kit's standard motor. i want to add a Trinity P2k Pro stock motor.

other than a novak ESC, all parts of my TL-01 chassis are standard out of the box - no other upgrades besides tires.

so, i am using the kit's standard 19/48 pitch pinion. IS THIS OK TO KEEP USING WITH THE P2K PRO MOTOR?? in other words, do i need to make any other modifications or changes to my car before adding the P2k pro motor or can i run it the way it is with the new motor?

[SegaBowMan]

nope, I live near Washington D.C. I don't have a Tl-01 yet but if everything goes right, I will have one for christmas.

[Saboteur]

Running the p2k pro motor in the tl01 is fine. Also with the stock 19t pinion you will get quicker acceleration and more run time, as to use the 21 or 23t pinion.

[asus/traxxasman]

hi all TL01 owners. (and anyone else who happens to be browsing this forum) im going to get a sligthtly used tl01 from someone and had a couple of questions......

fist of all.... what are the must have upgrades (other then oilfilled shocks and bearing) to make the car handel better and to make it go faster. will it be able to run with all those "high end" touring cars? oh and what hopups are there to make the car lighter?

thanx :p

[minijosh]

where 2 start, first get the lightened chassie, long arm conversion( my next big purchase), speed tuned gears for open tracks, good tires and inserts, the long arm kit has everything you will need to be able to tweak your steering and give your car some camber. i need it because somehow my car has both front wheels pointed in. it helps on corners but horrible for high end speed control and acheiving the high end speed. change out the main drive shaft for lighter weight one. they look cool too. make sure you grease the bearings.

[trakhak]

The only thing light about that upgrade is the color! The weight diffrence is not enough to justify the cost. Save your money and by the LA kit and oil shocks. Those are the ones that will bring that car alive! Then move on to the carbon main shaft(Thats a huge weight savings!) then the carbon gear shafts and of most of all bearings 1st! At the track a few of us bought the chassis set and put it on a scale and the savings was very low, like maybe a 1/2 ounce! But if its a different look you are after then go ahead. Peace

[TRF Drive Hard]

Originally posted by asus/traxxasman

fist of all....

Are you waving your fist at us!?!:p

[minijosh]

Let me know if this is crazy or not. If you get rid of any extra weight in a electric car, or any car for that matter, then it is lighter so hence it will be faster in the top end, quicker in the turns, will be able to stop on a dime, and maybe I just like the grey color. I did see someone with a clear TL01 chassie but I gots no idea where they got it from. I race my car at a local track and I do good with the limited upgrades that I can afford for the time being. People tell me to get out of the 01 tamiya cars. I haven't broken anything yet but I have broken others aluminum parts and carbon fiber crap. Go plastic tank! Plus the scratches look cool on the bottom. I drive slow and low hehe.

[trakhak]

Gots no idea....? It boils down to most bang for the buck, lightness helps but oil shocks will help more in dampening and in tunablity. You can save more weight by switching wheels! But if thats what you like then its cool. I was trying to steer the new guy the right way, if you thought I was dissing your advice I gots no idea why! Later

[Saboteur]

By lightening the car, you will accelerate quicker, but top end speed will remain the same. Also braking and its response to steering will be sharper. For me I didnt need a lot of upgrades to race my first tl01 kit. All I had was a novak explorer2 esc, 15t speedgems motor, bearings, alum mod shaft, stock tires and rims, megatech shocks, and stock calsonic gtr body. The car still was very quick and handled well in the turns. I have sold my first tl01 kit but later I bought a new one. However it still remains stock, but I have found out that even in stock form it can be fun. I drove it in the grass, up small hills and small jumps at my sisters house in Greenwich, Connecticut. It was a blast running it. I even drove it in the snow. Surprisingly, the stock road tires seem to handle well in the snow with minimal slip. I have not broken a single part on my tl01, nor do I plan to buy a new elec sedan to race. As of now, my tl01 is collecting dust (Sorry TED :p ) because I bought a new car, the neo tnt. This is my first nitro and I've grown VERY attached to it, as I always wanted a nitro. I have my pictures of my Neo TNT and the tamiya tl01 on my webpage --> http://thercfinatic11203.tripod.com
Click on my car pics.

[tl01boi]

i got a few other tl01's and yesterday i put a 9 turn motor and i accidentley put a 38 tooth pinion on the motor and in about 5 minutes it stripped mah spur gear

[tl01boi]

im gonna purchase a tlo1 tub chassis kit todai and compare each car to eachother when they have everything stock and no modefieds but i think the tub chassis is better

[minijosh]

it was stupid of me to word it that way. sorry peeps. there is a upgrade for a tub chassie? where is it found? i want photos plz if possible. i wanna try the tt01 if and when i find one for sale. i stripped out my gears by going to the lhs that doesn't carry tamiya stuff. he thought pinons were pinons. thanks for the info pal and i should have charged him for misleading me and making me waist my time by running to another lhs, buying the correct pinon and gears, driving back home, and finally taking it all apart and putting it back together again. I liked the rebuilding part though. does anyone have the long suspension arm upgrade yet?

[tl01boi]

no there is no upgrade for a tub chassis they sell a tl01 tub chassis kit they have it at towerhobbies.com some where lol ill c if i kan find my webcam disk to install my webcam and take pix

[tl01boi]

sorry but i cant find my webcam disk to take pix but maybe later ill buy a new one i bought this chassis at a local hobby store where im from and i think it is very hard to find ut here is what it kinda looks like http://www.ehobbiesoutlet.com/1002-6842.html just imagine it with the wheels springfs and everything else its the bottom view

[tl01boi]

i consider the tlo1 tub chassis a better one because it is more sturdy and a little lighter and u can make it look better than the tl01 but the tub chassis has a little bit extra space

[minijosh]

i just looked at that website and it says the tub is for the ta03. are you sure you can do it? i have so many questions if you do make it. more power to you bro. what kind of oil filled shocks does everyone use? i need to buy a new pair but is 30 bucks for a set worth it?

[tl01boi]

huh no that isn't the chassis for the tl01 but it looks very similar ill have pix on monday or so its a touring car chassis and im pretty sure u kan make it a rally car since it is a tub chassis and it is pretty nice

[minijosh]

Do you think tamiya will come out with a TL01TRF set up? I would like to see one in the future so if anyone from Tamiya is watching these posts, hook us up please. We race the cars that others make fun of and we are hardcore too. I would run my car in the rain if my receiver and motor could handle it.

[R33Skyline]

Howdy!

New to the site and just getting back into the RC thing. I got a TL01 R33 Skyline kit a few years back when they first came out. I shelved the project for a few years. Here's the setup I have so far and was looking for some constructive criticism about it.


Futaba Magnum Sport FP-T2PB
Novak Reversible Rooster
Piranha 1500SCX 6cell 7.2Volt
Trinity Gem2 Sapphire
All Bushing swapped to Bearings
HPI 5 Spoke Touring Rims 26mm
OEM Slicks

I haven't installed the motor yet but I hope to do that this week. Any ideas where I could improve? Am I on the right track? Any comments? Thanks!!

Devin

[fabolousRC]

Carbon Driveshaft
Lightweight Chassis
Speed Tuned Gear set
21 or 23 pinion
Front One-way (mine rolls easily with these on)

[SARacer]

You can't forget the long arm suspension it.
It really improves handling and adjustability.

[minijosh]

I want that hop-up so badly I can taste the plastic. Yuck. It looks good on the TL01-LA and I was thinking about getting the whole car but all I would need would be the arms and I would be good to go right. When will they make them in different colors and made of metal? When is Tamiya going to make a TRF TL01? I would buy one. No really, I think it would be a good idea.

[R33Skyline]

Just added a set of Team Ass. NTC3 tires to the ole Skyline today. Now maybe I can do a lil more than just doing donuts. The new motor has some balls and seems to want to spin the car out all the time. So I took the OEM slicks off and got some tread. I won't be able to test it out for a while now since the weather has taken a turn for the worse out here but I am betting the car handles better till I get the LA upgrade.

[R33Skyline]

Pic of the Old Calsonic Skyline.

[TRF Drive Hard]

Sweet lookin skyline...;)

[R33Skyline]

Originally posted by TA03 Drive Hard
Sweet lookin skyline...;)


Thanks, but it's pale in comparison to all these other cars, especially that NSX...woah that car looks amazing. I am getting another body for the car though, one I can show off and leave the silver skyline body on for racing and what not.

[minijosh]

i had a good tamiya skyline 34 and i raced it. stupid me. since i am a rookie, i thrashed the body and now i have a generic nissan silvia. it looks good but i cannot get my photo's to appear on here.

[Memph]

i bought a TL 01 the other day
See car here :) (http://www.users.bigpond.net.au/Memph/skyline.jpg)

I just need to get some hop ups. and i am not entirely sure what to get.. and where from..

I was wandering if someone wouyld be able to help me here.
Someone who knows quite a bit about these cars. and can advise me correctly in what to get.
If you can help drop me a line on ICQ on 68174056.

I would like to talk to someone about geting me some stuff. If someone could buy some things for me and then post them to me i would be happy to pay for parts, postage, and some extra for your troubles.

Thanks.

[anthonyfa18]

I have a TAMIYA BEANS INTEGRA TYPE R TL-01LA. to see more on it go to my team site

http://www.geocities.com/teamteck2002/

and just to see my car

http://www.geocities.com/teamteck2002/anthonycar.html

[TRF Drive Hard]

Originally posted by anthonyfa18
I have a TAMIYA BEANS INTEGRA TYPE R TL-01LA.

BEANS!?!?! :p

[anthonyfa18]

ya and

[TRF Drive Hard]

you mean BEAMS not BEANS... and its also known as the RSX ;)

[SegaBowMan]

this is a picture of the new altima body from proline. will the body and wheels fit a STOCK TL-01? oh, and the body is 190 mm.



http://prolineracing.com/protoform/touring/1454/1454-2.jpg

http://prolineracing.com/protoform/touring/1454/1454.jpg

[R33Skyline]

thats so cool!! I just showed the gang over at www.altimas.net that one.

[ShinHed]

Originally posted by minijosh
Do you think tamiya will come out with a TL01TRF set up?...

I haven't replied to this thread in a long time but, I can't withhold. TL01TRF ? What are you smoking?:eek:

[TRF Drive Hard]

A trf tl01 sounds cool

[minijosh]

and why not? don't we deserve to get hooked up too? why should the people that spend 350 bucks on a kit get everything that will stomp a plastic car when a tfr comes with all the goodies? just look at all the other tfr kits and what they get. if you buy a plain jane car, then you have to upgrade or you will fall behind. no questions asked. you get lapped and i don't care how good of a driver you are either. a graphite chassie for the TL01 would be really cool in my book and if you don't like it, don't read my book. get you own.

[SegaBowMan]

what happened to the altima pictures I posted. I can't see them

[R33Skyline]

I can see them fine.

[TRF Drive Hard]

Originally posted by minijosh
and why not? don't we deserve to get hooked up too? why should the people that spend 350 bucks on a kit get everything that will stomp a plastic car when a tfr comes with all the goodies? just look at all the other tfr kits and what they get. if you buy a plain jane car, then you have to upgrade or you will fall behind. no questions asked. you get lapped and i don't care how good of a driver you are either. a graphite chassie for the TL01 would be really cool in my book and if you don't like it, don't read my book. get you own.

Well here is my version of the trf tl01...

-Light weight chassis (no big diff, but cool lookin)
-Long arm suspension
-Full ball bearings
-Front one way
-Rear ball diff
-Hardend diff cups
-Carbon shaft
-Carbon gear shafts
-Tuned gears
-Foam bumper
-Titanium screws
-Quick battery release
-TRF shocks (cant forget those;) )
-24mm slicks type A and black rims (from the trf414m2)

basically this was built from ground up;)

[ShinHed]

Originally posted by minijosh
and why not? don't we deserve to get hooked up too? why should the people that spend 350 bucks on a kit get everything that will stomp a plastic car when a tfr comes with all the goodies? just look at all the other tfr kits and what they get. if you buy a plain jane car, then you have to upgrade or you will fall behind. no questions asked. you get lapped and i don't care how good of a driver you are either. a graphite chassie for the TL01 would be really cool in my book and if you don't like it, don't read my book. get you own.

burr..:rolleyes:

[Memph]

what is the tamiya part number for the long arm suspension?

Thanks :)

[anthonyfa18]

what is a good motor fo my TL01LA?? i have a p2k2pro but i want some thing faster. thank for all your help!!!!:D

[Saboteur]

Get a modified motor. A 15t or lower will give you plenty of speed. Also change the pinion gear from the stock 19t to a 23t for some awesome top end. The downside to this is that your run time will decrease.

[anthonyfa18]

do can i put the TAMIYA Super Modified Motor (11T) and is it good ????

[TRF Drive Hard]

That will work super ok:D

[kold]

do i need a speed tuned gear set and a larger pinion if i put in a hotter motor or can i make due with the stock setup? will the stock gear setup make the motor too hot or melt something? :)

[minijosh]

the speed tuned gears are made for speed. high end speed. the 23 tooth pinon is made for higher speeds too. add them together and what do you get? very high speeds for a TL01. make sure you put bearings in the drivetrain first though. the stock set up with a hotter motor will give you awesome take-off speeds and you will shot out of a corner like a bullet. the speed tuned gears(STG) and larger tooth pinon are excellent for open tracks but if you have a mix of straightaways and curves, i would put in a hotter motor with the 23 tooth pinon. i have a 15 turn Orion Rush in my car. Only cost me like 20 bucks with shipping for www.towerhobbies.com . they are selling alot of smaller stuff like this cheap. the long arms are 50 bucks though.

[minijosh]

LXZR88 is what tower hobbies has written down but that might be their own number. They say 53467 is the stock number later on in the add.

[fabolousRC]

Don't forget to add those carbon shafts and the front one-way. I have those and the lightweight chassis...it's rollin =P

Originally posted by minijosh
the speed tuned gears are made for speed. high end speed. the 23 tooth pinon is made for higher speeds too. add them together and what do you get? very high speeds for a TL01. make sure you put bearings in the drivetrain first though. the stock set up with a hotter motor will give you awesome take-off speeds and you will shot out of a corner like a bullet. the speed tuned gears(STG) and larger tooth pinon are excellent for open tracks but if you have a mix of straightaways and curves, i would put in a hotter motor with the 23 tooth pinon. i have a 15 turn Orion Rush in my car. Only cost me like 20 bucks with shipping for www.towerhobbies.com . they are selling alot of smaller stuff like this cheap. the long arms are 50 bucks though.

[Memph]

my local hobby shop has this motor
http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXBHF2&P=1

Is it any good? I am thinking about getting it.

[kold]

i have a speedgem pro amber (17x2) motor and bearings thats all i have installed and i get roughly 25 mph (MSC) so you would probably get the same or faster...

but, is 25 mph too slow for 17x2 motor with bearings? i wanna be into the 30-35 mph range with this setup. would a larger pinion and the speed tuned gear set put me faster than 35 mph approximately? i love the speed :)

[Saboteur]

Try adding a 23t pinion. That should get you past 30mph.

[kold]

how about a speed tuned gear set with the 19, 21, and 23 pinions?

[Tamiya-TLO1]

I race in a box Stock class with very few mods so I cant put all of that fancy stuff in my car.:p :p . But what do the speed tuned gears actually do for your car? It looks kinda like a two spped???:confused:

[Memph]

How fast could i expect my car to go when i get my motor?
It will have :

TL-01
Full bearings
Speed tuned gears
Tomohawk reverse ESC
Trinity Speed Gem Pro 2 Amber 17x2 Motor

Thanks

[SegaBowMan]

I'm going to get my TL-01 soon and I want to know how the adjustable motor mount works. Is it worth it? can I put a 26 tooth pinion gear on it? Is there a spur adapter also?

[kold]

what kind of spacers do i need to make my car 190mm? (along with HPI 3mm offset wheels)?

[TRF Drive Hard]

I was sifting through some tl01 parts and i noticed i was able to build a 7th tl01... yup i said 7th:p some parts are stock while others are some mods... the mods include:

-Front One-Way
-Aluminum shaft
-Full Ball Bearings
-Carbon Gear Shafts
-Aluminum Rear Hubs
-Aluminum Front Knuckles
-Aluminum "C" Hubs
-Light Weight Kingpins
-Stainless Steel Hinge Pins
-My modified ta03 ball diff (i used Anti-Wear grease to lube the ball diff... it really "smooths" out the stock balls... feels like tungsten carbide ball diffs;) )
-Adjustable Upper Links
-Purple Aluminum Adjustable Shocks from Megatech

I'm still in the process of building it, but its getting there... maybe i'll post a pic of it when it is finished:cool:

[minijosh]

wow you must have a seperate room or garage for your cars. how much did the megatech shocks cost for the TL01? do you have xtras? i need some. i am tired of bouncing around like a pogo stick.not really but i need them. bouncing is fun.

[TRF Drive Hard]

What garage? my whole apartment is my hobby shop:D

[Saboteur]

Wow TED, I didnt know you owned 6 TL-01s. LOL Are ya gonna race one of decked out one's? :cool:

[TRF Drive Hard]

Well, i dont where a good place to race em at, and its winter, and im too busy with work... i find joy building rc cars rather than racing... if and that, just zip around my streets;)

[SegaBowMan]

Mind sending me a TL-01? :D Anyway let me make a list of essential hop ups for a TL-01 basher.

1) oil shocks
2) bearings
3) bumper
4) lightweight shaft
5) adjustable motor mount

OK. What else? remember this is for a basher (run up and down the street) TL-01. Light weight chassis? nah don't need that. But I might as well add a mod motor to the list. 40 mph here I come :D

[TRF Drive Hard]

Well, im finished... got all the cool stuff on it... forgot to mention it has front universals, aluminum motor mount/heatsink (really cool thing) now all i need are some electrics... the one thing i really dont have alot is the electrics for all my rc cars... i have to keep swapping them back and forth;)

[Saboteur]

Sweetness dude :cool:. BTW we have some snow here in brooklyn,ny..about 5 or 6 inches. Wish I had a nitro or elec 4wd MT to bash in it. :(

[SegaBowMan]

when did the TL-01 debut in the U.S.A. ?