TLO1 Racing Forum v1.0

[TRF Drive Hard]

HEY!!! i got a better idea... why not attach foam wings to the sides? you know where the battery sticks out? one on each side... now all ya need now is a 8t motor and youre airborne!!!:p

[Gremlin]

That has actually been done believe it or not!

I have an old RC car action magazine where someone converted a tamiya monster beetle into an Aeroplane:p

I wonder how well it flies

[Archerboi]

I need some tech info on the TL01. Can you use the speed tuned gear set with the TA03 ball diff and use them both in the TL01? And what anti-roll bars can I use with the TL01LA? I read on the Tamiya site that they are different than the standard anti-roll bar for the regular TL-01, and for the TL01LA, were can I get a set of universal drive shafts? And a front foam bumper? Thanks allot in advance. :p

[phatvw1]

Originally posted by Cychalen
You can use double coated foam tapes to affix the lexan to the body. That's probably the best way to do it...

[TRF Drive Hard]

Originally posted by Archerboi
I need some tech info on the TL01. Can you use the speed tuned gear set with the TA03 ball diff and use them both in the TL01? And what anti-roll bars can I use with the TL01LA? I read on the Tamiya site that they are different than the standard anti-roll bar for the regular TL-01, and for the TL01LA, were can I get a set of universal drive shafts? And a front foam bumper? Thanks allot in advance. :p

Speed tuned gears w/ta03 balldiff=YES
TL01 and TL01LA swaybars are different
universals= www.integy.com
foam bumper= www.ahc1931.com

[Archerboi]

Thanks allot TA03 DH. ;)

[Whacky]

Hey TL01 Lovers!

I took my TL01 out today for its first testrun.
Man was i supprised by this little car:eek:
After racing my pro3 for almost 2 years now and now and then my souped up TB01 this ride was GREAT.
I just run it for one battery pack and i'am already like it better than my PRO3:D :D :D
It was cold today +/- 4 deg celsius and i thought this car would make nice donuts with these tires, but i was wrong.
The tires hooked up nicely. Steering was great, it had a very small turing radius without makeing donuts. It could transition very quick from left to right without loosing tracktion at the rear.
And when hitting the trottle the car went straight, no pulling to the left or right. (Removed the slob on the servosaver).
My verdict on this car is just GREAT.

This is what i got.
TL01 Opel Astra DTM.
Ofcourse Ball Bearings.
TA03 Alu Low Friction dampers. 40WT + Bleu springs (soft) all around.
Rear Toe in Uprights.
Ajustable Steering links Front 1Deg of Toe out.
Ajustable Camber links (just in the rear).
Rear 1Deg camber, Front Stock camberlink (2Deg of camber)
Ride height 5mm front and back.

HPI B15-40 tires, Front HPI hard insert, Back Med Foam insert.
19T Motor with 23T pinion.
Futaba 3003 Servo.
2400mha Sanyo battery.

I'am planning to get the Carbon propellor shaft, lightweight Chassis and the steel suspension shaft set. (Maybe shimming the hole car up will make it even handel better.)

PS Have one question doe. Has anyone ever tried of makeing a lightweight propelor shaft and gearshafts from a carbon fibre rod or brass tube????

Thanks Whacky.

[Archerboi]

Which universal set will I be able to use on the TL01LA? They have 2 versons, but on is out of stock at Integy.

[corwin99]

What are the recommended gearings for the TL01?
I'm using the stock gears and the stock 19T pinion, and my stock motors are heating up.. i've tried an Reedy Rage, Trinity Spec, and a Reedy DS in there and all of them get hot... i can't go any smaller, it would seem to me that this would be low gearing, but it even heats up my stock motors. or is this normal for this chassis?

I'm afraid to go up to a 23T pinion if it already heats up my stockers like this.

[phatvw1]

What may be causing your motors to become hot is excess friction in the drivetrain... you should upgrade to BB's if you haven't already. With stock motors such as yours, a 21T shouldn't be out of the question since they should have enough oomph to overcome the higher gearing.

[Subie555]

Corwin99,

I have a Team Orion Core Stock, speed tuned gears and 19T pinion and it seems just right to me.........just give it 2 mins to cool down between every 2 packs.

My guess is that your gearing too low. Try getting the speed tuned gears(53342) and use the 19T. It'll give you more gearing options aswell.

And also Ball Bearings as mentioned, BB's are mandatory in RC.:D

Subie555

[Whacky]

What grease do you use in your geardiffs?

Greatz Whacky.

[corwin99]

I just used the grease that tamiya gave with the kit.

I already have the BB's... But i may try getting the speed tuned gears or the 21T pinion... the 540 Mabuchi never heated up too much... so its quite possible that it is geared too low.. thanks for the input guys. I could stick a modifed motor in there to see if it still heats up, then i could be more sure about the gearing.

hmm.

[TRF Drive Hard]

Originally posted by Archerboi
Which universal set will I be able to use on the TL01LA? They have 2 versons, but on is out of stock at Integy.

I suggest the ta04 light weight universals;)

[Whacky]

He TA03 Drive Hard,

Do these uniniversals fit the stock arms as well?

Greatz Whacky

[TRF Drive Hard]

Yes they will;)

[Whacky]

Thanks TA03 Drive Hard.

I went to my LHS today to see if i could get the carbon propeller shaft for my TL01 this guy asked $20 (converted) for it so i gave hem these faces:eek: :mad: . So i went to the airplane section and guess what i found? a 5mm cabon fiber rod for $7 and this one is 1meter long. when i was it home i noticed that the rod was not 5mm but 4.88mm:( and the bearings where to loose on it.
After cuting a piece of 22cm of of it and driling the holes it was time for the CA trick. I put some very thin coating of CA on the ends where the bearings and the gear would be.
After the CA had dryed i put the rod into my electric screwdriver and held the rod agains some sandpaper until it was 5mm.
After 30min. it fitted perfect and it saved me 28grams.
While i was adit i made a FRP rearbrace and saved me another 16grams.

Now it was time to put it to the test.
19T motor, stock gears and 23T pinion and man the this car excelerates (had weelspin to) and it felt much faster.

As for the rest of the rod i can make 3 more of them and have them as spares or sell them and make some money :D :D :D

Like someone sed here "Its cheap speed we are looking for" well if $1.75 for a carbon propellorshaft aint cheap i don't know what is!

Next project A Foam bumper.

Greatz Whacky

[Burnout]

You have to post pics of your 7 dollar carbon shaft! And your LHS asking $20 for it? Talk about robbery! I would like to hear your plans on the foam bumper. I myself already thought up a plan for the foam bumper :cool: that I'm gonna do whenever I get my Dremel bits:D . Since its impossible for me to find those Cross TL01 bumpers:mad: . Now I have to stop buying me those friggin s narrow wheels (just bought another set yesterday).

After I had too much time on my days off I thought about dumping the TL01 :eek:. Seriously thinking about turning it into an FF02. It seems like it would go well with the Beam's ITR body (ahem, front drive). The only parts for the transformation are the chassis pieces, and thats it. Should be easy for switching back and fourth. I still can't believe of all the money I spent still haven't gotten some real shocks yet. :rolleyes:

[Whacky]

He Burnout,

The rod looks the same as the original, but i see if i can borrow the digicam from my dad.

As for the Bumper, I was thinking of makeing a frontbrace (like the rear one) from a aluminium L shape profile and attach a ABS or PVC plate to it to mount the bumper on.

I will see if i can do this this weekend or else next week.
When this is finished i try to post picks of my car and every home made part:D :D :D

Lucky for my there are no rule at my club for stock racing except for the motor and the tires.:D

Greatz Whacky.

[corwin99]

I just installed some oil shocks from a TA04 in my TL01 put some 50wt shock oil and some hard springs on it. I had to replace the stupid shock bottom peice on the ta04 because it was too long. I replaced it with the ones from the friction shocks on the tl01, so ended up using regular kingpins instead of ball ends. I got the car with about .4 inches of clearance.

Its now still pretty stock, waiting for some tierods to come in so i can change the stock camber arm things. I have a full set of bearings, stuck some losi tires on it for the test today. installed a traxxas esc and traxxas receiver... those things are so damn big tho, and i couldn't get it to fit inside the hole so i unscrewed the chassis a big and stuck it in there and have the receiver going sideways. Running a Reedy Rage motor today.

I took a pic too :)

http://dood.ca/pics/cars/photo_tl01_01.jpg

Man this thing is like a completely different car now that i lowered the CG and replaced the friction shocks with dampers. I think i used too stiff of a spring because the ride was extremely bumpy, but wow.

i should mention that this is my girlfriend's car now.. she bought me a stampede and i am giving this thing to her :)

[Burnout]

Looks nice and clean. About time someone started to post pics of TL01's!

Whacky, I know what you are talking about. Actually there is a set up out there like the one you are planning to make. Too bad I didn't save the picture. Its made from aluminum and comes with blue foam. I think it was a European site where I saw it. So far there are only 3 aftermarket TL01 bumpers out there that I have seen.

[TRF Drive Hard]

Nice TL'er you got there;)

[Burnout]

I wouldn't mind having some of these parts...because noone really has them!

http://www.d1.dion.ne.jp/~bigwave/TL01_2.jpg


http://homepage.mac.com/mibro/brc/photo/tl01a.gif


http://homepage.mac.com/mibro/brc/photo/tl01b.gif

[TL_Dominator]

:D

[fabolousRC]

my TL-01 finally runs like it should be and my TL01LA kit is here too...all I have to do now is to install the suspension arms, the (un) adjustable arm turnbuckles and the (lame) adjustable steering links. My car rocks at it is when considering I'm only running the "johnson"s with speed tuned gear and 19 teeth pinion, full ball bearings, and carbon everything else...but I gotta keep it away from the family dog though...it thought that I was gonna crash on him or something (gotta remind myself to keep teaching it that the car is not the enemy)..OH!..and it finally runs all wheel drive instead of semi three wheel drive/front wheel drive (I forgot to install the black o-rings...I just borrowed it from the new kit)

[Whacky]

He Burnout,

The bumper is from Carson, my LHS had one.
But it is to expensive and the thing weights a ton.

I will see if i can make one myself or wod the stock bumper so i can use the stabilizor set when needed.

It's a shame i can't order anything from the net so i have to make some parts myself.

Maybe a motormout wich lets you use different size pinions, i know there is one out there but like i sed i can't order anything (living in the Netherlands, do not have a creditcard and i am broke).

I hope i will get my hopup chassis and the stainless steel suspension shafts quickly so it will look nicer:D :D :D

Greatz Whacky

[TL_Dominator]

Can anyone tell me the best oil to lube BBs, TIA

[Saboteur]

Sweet TL01's on the other page. Ill post new pics of my Neo and my TL01 soon.

[Subie555]

TL-Dominator

You don't have to lube them at all......unless they are really old and don't roll freely. Most BB's are already lubed internally.

If they are worn, then you have to take them apart clean out the grease and apply some thin bearing oil to minimize friction.

Subie555

[Burnout]

Oh I see, its a Carson bumper. Haha, I see that you are from the Netherands. There goes another chance for me finding those here. It looks so simple I can't believe you said that its expensive. Too me expensive is somewhere along the lines of $20 and up.

I would really like to see your pics Saboteur. Actually wouldn't it be nice for everyone to show their cars?

I already got my stuff from Tower Hobbies. Excellent service and the parts came in way before the scheduled time. If I remember I'll post some pics of my minor mods.:o

[Whacky]

He Burnout,

I call this bumper expencive becouse it cost +/- $18 converted, this is 1/5th of the price of the car.
They sell Foambumpers with alu mounting posts for $4.5
So if i make this one myself i will save $13.5 and i can spend this money on a nother hophup or a set of tires/rims:D .

Beside that, it is freezing out here and the track opens in March so this will give me something to do in my spare time + i can make it the way i like!

And if you count everyting together you will eventualy save a lot of money (a little $ here and a little $ there is BIG $$$ at the end).
I can know becouse i own i hopuped PRO3 and a almost EVO 1 (hopuped TB01).

Greatz Whacky

[Matt (aka R/C)]

Hey guys, i just realized something....
I never put any diff oil/grease whatever into the diffs. This was my first kit so....yeah. I hope i didnt screw this up! I already put all the electronics in and dont wanna rebuild it! Thanks!

Matt

P.S. if i screwed up, is the kit supposed to come with some?Thanks!

[Whacky]

He Matt,

Yes there should be some grease supplied with your car Tamiya Ceramics grease.

If i where you i would put some grease in and on the diffs or they will wear very quick!!!

Greatz Whacky.

[Matt (aka R/C)]

K, thanks! now i get to take this all apart, fun.... o well, at least i will know the car inside out! Thanks!

Matt

[Matt (aka R/C)]

ummmmm... guys, what does the diff grease look like? and how do i get double sided tape off? its stuck on my reciever and thats stuck to the chassie! Both sides:rolleyes:! Is the diff grease that ceramic stuff? Thanks!

matt

[Matt (aka R/C)]

Never misd the reciever, gopt it off. Gunna use some velcro this time!

[Saboteur]

Burnout, I have the old one's on my webpage. Ill get the new pics up soon. No upgrades on it though...just some shots of it with my nitro sedan. http://thercfinatic11203.tripod.com

[SegaBowMan]

I need some velcro too. When the receiver is knocked out of place, dirt and pebbles get stuck to the double-sided tape and it loses its stickyness. The velcro works well because the two sides only stick to each other. home depot here I come.

when you run the car once or twice, is the grease supposed to turn black(in the rear diff)? and if so, do I need to clean it out?

[Matt (aka R/C)]

HEEEEEEEEEEEEELP GUYS! please help me, i only have 2 hours to figure this out thjen its school again:mad:! Please! Thanks you

Matt

[SegaBowMan]

what are you talking about?

[SegaBowMan]

the kit was supposed to come with grease. well, it's supposed to come with two. one is "swich grease" and the other is "Tamiya grease". They look exactly the same so be careful. And of course you use the tamiya grease on all bushings not bearings, inside the diffs, wherever gears mesh, the pinion, and shaft, and inside the stock shocks. the grease is brown. :)

[Matt (aka R/C)]

HEy man, thanks for the help, i just rebuild the entire thing! In about 45 mins, not bad. Thanks again!

Matt

[TRF Drive Hard]

45min??? you gotta cut down on the down time boy! somewhere in between those minutes, youre wasting too much time... never fully tighten the screws, always half tighten... howd you think the pit boys get those wheels on? they dont! they use double sidedtape!!!:p

[SegaBowMan]

Ta03 DH is right. it took too long. unless you were doing something else during that time or the time was an estimate. I haven't taken my car apart before so I don't know how long it would take me. And never tighten the screw to the max. I overtightened a screw and now my chassis has a crack in it (very very small one but it's still there).

so about the grease turning black (black as motor oil). what's that a sign of?

[TRF Drive Hard]

Thats a sign of some major friction goin on there... that black stuff is carbon build up... like in motor oil from the burnt over residue of fuel... carbon also prevent the transfer of heat... carbon is bad for oil, it breaks down the molecules of oil...:D

[SegaBowMan]

oh boy. thats bad:eek: but, how can that be if that balck stuff used to be grease? Am i missing something? So I have to tear down and rebuild the diffs?

[SegaBowMan]

look at what I found:D

link (http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXGH12&P=0)

http://www2.gpmd.com/image/t/tamc5145.jpg

[Burnout]

Oh yeah, I remember seeing your pics Sabotuer. Well get some new ones, especially the money shot (chassis of course).

Wow, that bumper looks kinda weird. More like for a TA01 or 2 chassis...? And look, it is held on with double sided tape, why can't they offer a regular looking one? Plus, TL01's are very popular me thinks, why not come out with one for it?

[Saboteur]

Yeah I got them on the camera. Just need to get them developed. Its gonna snow a lot here so I try to get to the store to get em done within an HR. Its right down the block. Anyway after I move, I hope I can get to a local track. Ive been thinking about Rc Madness and bruckner hobbies indoor track. http://www.brucknerhobbies.com/indoor.htm Rcmadness would be better though because it has an LHS right by the track and its big (I do enjoy those large tracks). Not sure how far is bruckner from where Ill be living at but I just remembered they have the LHS a few blocks away from the track I heard..which is really in a school's gym. Not sure what to race but Id like to get into 1/12th pan.

[Burnout]

OH I see now, you scan your pics. :D What a hassle!

Here is my car at its current state. I only ordered the QR battery holder, carbon shaft, and the LA swaybars. I purchase the RPM DYABLE s narrow wheels at a LHS. And I also got a set of gold XTM wheelnuts at another shop (for the same price of 4 Tamiya ones I got 10 with XTM's!). The amount of slop in the sway bars are unbelievable using the white (soft) bars. I had to use heat shrink to remove ALL the slop.

I know you guys are tired of seeing a stock TL01, but too bad yall have to deal with it. :D My main goal is getting the harder to find stuff first (like foam bumpers). So now the shocks are almost last on my list.

[Whacky]

He SegaBowMan,

Yes i think it is normal, i have this in all of my geardiffs.
It's the wear of the metalgears wich mixes up with the grease.
I also have this on the spurgear wich comes in contact with the aluminium pinion.

And about that Bumper sorry man but it looks more like a snowshuffle conversion than a bumper.
Maybe something for saboteur?!?!?:D :D :D :D

Greats Whacky.

[Saboteur]

LOL. Yeah Id prob add some nice rally tires and a bumper to my TL-01 to push away all that snow. However with over a foot here and more in Greenwich,CT where my sister lives, thats outta the question. It would be cool to see some elecs on a snow course. Probably pack down the snow and stuff, add some jumps, banks,etc..it would be awesome. :)

[Matt (aka R/C)]

Well.... yeah i was a bit slow but hey, i couldnt find the manual and had never taken it apart before(built it about 1 montha go and havent ran it cause the snow). ANNNNNNND i was also doing some stuff for ma dad sooo....(i know excuses:D ) Anways, i am probably going to try again today or tomorrow and time(that was an estimate. Bythe way, i didnt know i could leave all the electronics on:rolleyes: .

Matt

[TRF Drive Hard]

Originally posted by SegaBowMan
look at what I found:D

link (http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXGH12&P=0)

http://www2.gpmd.com/image/t/tamc5145.jpg

Thats for the ta02 chassis;)

[TRF Drive Hard]

Heat is caused by the rotating and/or meshing of the parts... where as the parts that are lubed get used, it turns black from the heat creating a byproduct of that lube... mostly carbon particles... heat also breaks down the molecules of oil... 6 things that are bad for the oil... HEAT, CARBON, AIR, WATER, SALT, SOAP...

HEAT-will turn oil black over time, breaks down the molcules
CARBON-created from particles and heat, prevents the transfer of heat
AIR-heated oil DOES actually evaporate
WATER-do we really need to know why?:rolleyes:
SALT-breaks down the molecules of oil
SOAP-breaks down the molecules of oil

:D

[Saboteur]

Well said TED. BTW I heard the lowest mod motor you can use in the TL-01 with the 3 pinion gears to choose from is a 15T motor. Is this true? Either way, a 15T is good enough for me to use for cruisin around or if I manage to find an RC track, practice there. Its just sittin there collecting dust and I dont really want to get another elec sedan..was kinda lookin at the Neo T21. Anyway Id like to get a pair of slicks for it, a nice ESC, mod motor and some shocks. That will be fine for now. :)

[TRF Drive Hard]

Well like i mentioned before... i have used a 10t double in mine... no tranny meltdowns for me:D just make sure you have bearings, a well lubed tranny, carbon gear shafts to minimize heat/friction... and make sure your tl01 rolls freely... if you feel any binding... then its your diff gears... try to untighten a lil about one quarter counterclock for each screw... this should releave some "pressure" on the gears... do all this and your good to go... FAST!!!

ted

[SegaBowMan]

what esc did you use? I am now in the market for one.

here is what I like so far. My goal is to go as low as 10 turn motors but some of them won't get there. I prefer reverse too but it is not necessary. so which one will be the best?

1) Associated F1 Pro Reverse (http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXRE95&P=M)

2)Associated IPC Pro Sport (http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXRE98&P=M)

3) Duratrax intellispeed 8T racing reverse (http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXAXU0&P=0)

4) Hitec HFX-R (http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXARP2&P=M)

[TRF Drive Hard]

I use Novak's Cyclone TC;)

[SegaBowMan]

isn't that discontinued? and I can't register on ebay:(

[SegaBowMan]

did you put it under the bar thing in the back?

[Saboteur]

Yeah I remember TED. BTW my TL-01 kit came with a free ball bearing set. :D The Drivetrain and gears I'll re-grease since I havent driven it for a while.

[SegaBowMan]

I think I will go with esc number 3. It's cheap and it fits my needs.

Link on Tower Hobbies (http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXAXU0&P=0)

http://www2.gpmd.com/image/d/dtxm1075.jpg

[TRF Drive Hard]

That seems like a decent esc, and duratrax makes some good stuff... now if only they would come out with a line of stock and mod motors;) with lil MB's for enhanced performance regulated with a 1MByte "smart" technology... :D ok im rambling here:p

[SegaBowMan]

Originally posted by TA03 Drive Hard
I'd get the bearings first... that is the first hop-up before anything else;)

how come? well, I could have enough money to buy both an esc and bearings but it would be easier to get the esc first. I don't get what your saying in your last post.

[TRF Drive Hard]

Wadda ya mean how come? thats the first rule for ANY upgrade... ask anyone... they will tell you bearings first... bearings greatly reduce the rolling friction and increase speed...;)

[SegaBowMan]

ok. guess I'm going to have to spend a little more. how big is your esc and where is it mounted?

[TRF Drive Hard]

Its mounted on that "upper" deck of the chassis... its that lil plate inside... just above my reciever...;)

[SegaBowMan]

it's too big to fit where the receiver is?

[TRF Drive Hard]

Tucked inside the chassis...

[SegaBowMan]

I mean is the esc too big to fit under the plate thing and the receiver on the plate?

[TRF Drive Hard]

Well my Cyclone is mount atop because i have to solder my wires... if youre trying to mount the esc on the bottom inside, you can try... i usually go with whatever fits snug... i had a fusion esc fit snug on the inside, while my receiver sat atop;)

[SegaBowMan]

yea. I think the esc needs more protection than the receiver. thats why I want to put it there. If it doesn't slide by the bar thing I will take the car apart and slide it in there.

So you say the duratrax bearings are good? I might as well get those. they are $30 at tower. Are they cheaper anywhere else?

[minijosh]

Bearings should be the first up grade you do. Taking apart the TL01 is fun and exciting. NOT! But once you have completed this bearing change for the nice bushings, you never will have to take the chassie apart again. Plus once it is buttoned up, you can mount your hardware anywhere. I use a Mtronic speed control. Totally water proof so that means dirt proof too. I stuck the receiver inside the back and mounted the esc on top of the bridge between both servo hole and receiver hole. I think the receiver is more important. Protect that at all cost is my moto. True it might be cheaper but bullet-proof esc are the way to go unless you have cash to burn.

[Subie555]

Hey guys,

I need some help, I just can't stop the rear from sliding out(lots of oversteer).

Here's what I have so far;

Medium(Yellow) Springs Front
Hard (Blue) Springs Rear
M2 Radial Tyres(Tamiya)
Adjustable Upper Arms(1 degree front camber)
Hard Stabilizer in the rear
Turnbuckle Steering(0 Toe-in)
Hard Tyre Inserts

I think it might be the tyres, they are quite soft.

Subie555

[Whacky]

He Subie555,

The side of the car wich has the hard springs wil have less grip.
The side of the car wich has a stabilizor will have less grip.
The side of the car wich has a harder tire insert will have less grip.
The side of the car wich has a harder tire will have less grip.
Tire wear should be even so the tire will give you maximum grip when cornering (increase camber when tire wear is on the outside of the tire and decrease when tire wear is only on the inside of the tire)

So with these things in mind try the folowing things.

Remove the Rear Stabilizor and put a softer spring in the back,
Example Blue in front and red in the rear end.
Also give 1 deg of camber in the rear.
Try the Hard stabilizor in Front.
Try the 3Deg rear toe-in Uprights.
Or try some softer inserts in the back tires.

Try them in this order and one thing at a time!
The last two options will cost you some money so try the free options first!

Let me remind you that when the weather is cold the tires will have less grip then when driving in hot weather!

Please correct me if i went wrong somewhere!

Greatz Whacky.

[Subie555]

Thanks for the advice Whacky.

Subie555

[corwin99]

I dont know if Whacky mentioned this.. i dont think he did (tho he did a great job of covering everything else!) You might want to put some front toe-in.. it will reduce your oversteer and give you more steering coming out of a turn. you could definately do with a degree or 2

[Aluma]

of course you can always take a hair dryer with you and warm up the tires when its cold out. :D plus you get to make good friends when they come to warm their hands with it too.... ;)

[Burnout]

I just started working on my project bumper. I been complaining forever about the difficulty in getting a foam bumper for the TL01. Sure you can just get any foam piece and strap it on with electrical tape or zip ties but would that look a little umm...tacky? IMO it would.

I have thought of many different ways and picturing many things in my head. The whole thing is about taking as little time as possible to do this while looking atleast somewhat decent. The Beams kit comes with an extra bumper (its for you non LA guys). So I just bought the dremel kit bits and went to work. Horizontally split the bumper in half. Then smoothed out the edges for the time being. I had to grind some material so the bottom piece can be fitted upside down. Then the top part goes in its original position. Now this is going to sandwich the foam bumper. Of course the bumper will have to be cut to fit the low profile space. I still need to hack some posts that will connect the top and bottom parts together. Its going to be drilled and screwed from the top and bottom where the washers are placed in the photo. I am going to mill out or do something with the top part.

[SegaBowMan]

great idea

[Whacky]

He Burnout,

I was thinking about the alu version or cutting the topplate off the stock bumper (leave the mounting holes in place) and mount the bumper on this or do the whole thing upside down and mount the bumper under the topplate.

But your version looks even better, how much space is there between the two plates?
And can you still add a front stabilizer?


Greatz Whacky.

[Burnout]

Thanks guys. Well like I said, there isnt really that much space. But the space isn't small to be it non functional. I didn't measure it but I did put bearings in the space to simulate the posts. It stacked 3 Tamiya sized bearings and 1 Associated front wheel bearing perfectly in the space. So its slightly shorter than 4 stacked Tamiya bearings. And it did not interfere with the front stabilizers at all as you can see in the pic it still holds up (if you noticed that there is a swaybar in the pic :D ).

One thing I don't about it that I forgot to mention. If you take a look at the top or bottom portions on your TL01's bumpers you can see its at a 'slight' angle. So with the bottom of my modified one its also angled down like the top part is. I wanted this perfectly leveled. Oh yeah, the bottom part still sits slightly higher when the chassis is fully slammed. Adding the foam it should hit the ground the same time the chassis does. This would require much more work if I wanted it perfectly leveled.

Remember once you cut either piece off that peice is much more flexible. I still believe that it can support a bumper but it sure won't be solid.

[corwin99]

hehe on my home made bumper i just took a regular foam bumper, cut out a notch from the bottom rear of the bumper and fit it on the stock bumper with double sided tape and long screws and washers bolted on the other side. It doesn't look tacky from the top and if anyone's looking at it from the bottom i'd be more embarassed about the lame crash i just had to give 'em that view :)

but that split in half deal is really good idea. to remove the back bumper i dremelled the bumper off leaving just the 2 screw plates.

[Whacky]

Thanks Burnout.

BTW i din't see the stabilizer until you told it was there sorry!

What about heating the plastic up so you can bend it a little!

Still have to start on mine, i am waiting for some parts to arive at my LHS so i dont have to drive twice.

PS I think Tech-10 or PROTECH makes foam bumpers wich include aluminium mounting posts.
You can also go to the Radio Shack (Spelling?) and ask for some plastic spacer bushings, they are used to mount pcb's higher than bottem level.


Thanks Whacky.

[SegaBowMan]

ok. now it's time to make a bumper mount of my own;)

[Burnout]

Thanks. Well I did thought about heating up the bumper but I have no heat gun. I don't think there is another effective way in doing this without me melting it! The bumper Protech kit sounds cool (gotta love those aluminum posts), but I never heard of them before. The Radio Shaq (:D ) idea is much more easier for me, I know a bunch of Radio Shacks around here. I'm going to measure the space and hopefully there is a part that fits in it perfectly. That should save me A LOT of trouble in cutting down and drilling new ones (without the proper tools its very hard to get it perfectly). I have lots of spare bolink type body posts to hack. I just hope that the bushing holes are good enough for the Tamiya screw to screw into. I do not want to use a screw and bolt set up.

The part that holds the sway bar is the same part that holds the top and bottom pieces. I almost made the mistake in grinding the whole part down, if I did then it will not hold the swaybar.

There is still a whole lot of cutting, sanding, drilling, and finishing I have to do. So I apologize that just maybe it will take a while for you guys to see the finished product.

:(

[Whacky]

He Burnout,

You can use a candle or a kooking stove just don't let the flame touch the plastic and move it quickly over the flame.

As for the Bumper mounts you can use the bodyposts, screw them on the bottom and use a bodyclip on top.

Now i wish my parts would arive including foam bumper so i can get started also.


Greatz Whacky.

[TRF Drive Hard]

You know, with all this bump stuf goin on... im startin to think i should try it... i have an idea on how i want to do mine... its a lil similiar to Burnout's idea, but no cutting to the plastic bumper itself... i will someday post a pic of it...:D

[SegaBowMan]

is it true that the duratrax 8Tracing reverse esc doesn't have radio priority circuitry? that's bad. :eek: then it's like an effecient msc.

[SegaBowMan]

here is something new (http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=www2u.biglobe.ne.jp/~kmodels/rttex-frame01.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www2u.biglobe.ne.jp/~kmodels/rt.htm&h=398&w=438&prev=/images%3Fq%3DTL01%26start%3D140%26svnum%3D10%26hl% 3Den%26lr%3D%26ie%3DUTF-8%26oe%3DUTF-8%26sa%3DN)

[TRF Drive Hard]

Hmm... that doesnt look "tamiya" approved, but a custome made chassis that was cut very professionally and is offering other custom cut carbon kits... although it looks very trick;)

[Ct_boT]

Hey u guys what kinda ESC's do u use for ur TL01?

i'm planning to get the "Novak Super Rooster"
is it any good?

:confused: :confused:

[Cychalen]

Novak Super Rooster is a very good ESC. I use it in my monster truck. It is too bulky for a TL01 IMO.

[TRF Drive Hard]

I use Novak's Cyclone series... fits nicely:D

[SegaBowMan]

too bad they are discontinued. I would buy a used one but my mom doesn't like buying things from other people on the internet. (too easy to get burned.) I also did some measuring and the esc I planned on getting is slightly too high too fit under the bar in the back. that's bad. I might just get a dually but I want to run ten turn motors:(

[TRF Drive Hard]

Originally posted by SegaBowMan
too bad they are discontinued. I would buy a used one but my mom doesn't like buying things from other people on the internet. (too easy to get burned.) I also did some measuring and the esc I planned on getting is slightly too high too fit under the bar in the back. that's bad. I might just get a dually but I want to run ten turn motors:(

I wouldnt suggest the Dually, its too big... the Fusion will fit perfect inside although its limit is 12t... but still good;)

[Burnout]

It would be nice to see what you guys come up with your bumper setup.

Well here are better pics of what I am working on.

[Burnout]

Here is the bottom.

[Burnout]

Now you can see just how much clearance it is when the chassis is "slammed". You can also see the slight angle that I was explaining about.

[Burnout]

Okay, nomore for now...;) .

I can't believe I just figurerd this out. For that slammed stance I just removed the spring retainers. :D

[flipracer]

i just bought a tl01 used from a friend. it has a speed gem motor, 19t pinion with speed tuned gears. i striped two sets of speed tuned gears. when i look at the hole to check the gears, there seems to be a big gap between the pinoin and the spur.does anyone know whats causing the gears to strip?

[TRF Drive Hard]

Originally posted by flipracer
i just bought a tl01 used from a friend. it has a speed gem motor, 19t pinion with speed tuned gears. i striped two sets of speed tuned gears. when i look at the hole to check the gears, there seems to be a big gap between the pinoin and the spur.does anyone know whats causing the gears to strip?

2 things i can think of... well, what kinda speedgem motor is it? like how many turns is it? and are you certain you are setting in the motor mounting screws in the right hole? like if youre using a 19t pinion, the screws should be in the holes marked "19"

plus too the tamiya AV pinions do wear out at an alarming rate...

ted

[TRF Drive Hard]

Hey Burnout, now that you removed the spring retainers, your chassis is gonna scrape... if you want that slammed look, put some spacers insidethe shock body... other than that, nice work on the bumper so far;)

[Whacky]

OK, I have asked alot of questions to you guyes and now it's time to post some pictures.
PS The Quality is of my HI8 Camcorder!

[Whacky]

The Home made FRP rearbrace.

[Whacky]

This is a side view.

[Whacky]

Top view

[Whacky]

And my home made carbon propelor shaft.
When the bumper is finished i will add a pic of it!

[Burnout]

TAO3DH, I must be smoking crack if I'm gonna drive the car with no spring retainers :D . Eventually I will have to add spacers like you said (ah, so time consuming :rolleyes: ). I believe people are using that rubber tube that protects the Tamiya motor shaft.

On my next days off I should be making some progress on the bumper. I think if I just drill the foam at an angle it should mount level. :D

That is a sweet ride Whacky! Excellent job on the rear brace. What did you use to cut it? I don't think you used a rotary tool for that. Your homemade carbon shaft looks real good too, exactly the same as the Tamiya part. Howcome no pics of your bumper in progress? Remember that the brace can be dyed into many colors. ;)

Atleast you're not using TA03DH's 99 cent digi cam. :p

[Whacky]

Thanks.

I have no picture of the bumper in progress becouse i din't started yet!!

The rearbrace is made of Epoxyplate = FRP the same stuf that PCB's are made of.
All i used was a jigsaw, small file and a powerdrill for the holes.
I know i can dye it and i even have some carbonlook decalls that i can put on, but i'am waiting for my Lightweigt Chassis wich includes a black rearbrace.
I hope this stuff comes quick becouse i'am waiting for a week now.:mad:

I think i start tomorow with the Alu part for the Bumper and will post the pictures one of these days. Stay tuned!:D
Maybe i can use my dad's didi cam, it will produce excelent pictures.

Greatz Whacky.

[TRF Drive Hard]

Originally posted by Burnout

Atleast you're not using TA03DH's 99 cent digi cam. :p

Aight... 99cent digicam huh? i remembuuuz thatz...:D just remember who has the trickest tl01 around here... and when i do get myself a super nice digcam, i will post nasty pics of my ride:p gonna make you eat your words boy!:D

btw whacky... that is one trick mod you did with the rear brace and shaft too;)

ted
:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

[Burnout]

I see, I thought you started on the bumper already. I wish I had more time, mines could've been done already. :(

TA03DH, I think we all know that you have the baddest, trickest, sickest, and all that good stuff TL01 out there. Noone wouldn't even dare to battle you. But, with that kind of talk someone has gotta do something about it.

[Whacky]

Thanks TA03 DH.

Now i started on the bumper brace today and after an little more than an hour of Jigsawing and filing and 15mins for polishing its don!
It's made of 2mm aluminium L profile.
Here you can see the materials used for the parts so you can see i realy made them:D

[Whacky]

here is a closeup!

[Whacky]

Here is one mounted on the car.

[Whacky]

And her you can see the ground clearance.
When i have my Foam Bumper i can start making the botomplate and put some update pictures on here.

[CarterTG]

Kudos Whacky.. that's some impressive work! Now, go repeat that 1000 times for the folks wanting one of their own! LOL

:cool:

[Aluma]

actually if he can make that lip the right shape.... you can install the TB evolution series front bumper thats held on by three screws! :D

[Whacky]

Thanks guys.

Well actualy i'am getting a bumper with Aluminium mounting posts!!!!:D :D :D


Greatz Whacky.

[Burnout]

Very nice job Whacky! A much easier and better set up than mines :D. My old B&D jigsaw can never ever cut like that. And all you have to do is just throw on a foam bumper without any or just little mods at all. I have to deal with cutting and trimming the friggin foam. :mad:

Aluminum mounting posts? Don't tell me your gonna make your own from scratch :eek: .:confused: .

[Whacky]

Thacks Burnout,

No the bumper comes with aluminium mounting posts:D :D :D .

PS i don't have an electrical Jigsaw, everyting on here is handcrafted! (Could not feel my arm anymore after i was finished on this one).

Al the butiful thing you can make need TIME and PATIENCE those are the two keywords for makeing nice parts.
I only use the dremel to cut srews, steelwire and polishing.
I don't feel like i have much controll with the dremel and mistakes are made very quick. when using very small files and a fine saw u can go into great detail.


Greatz Whacky.

[Burnout]

Oh I see. I thought most of the work came from the jigsaw.

Yep, you definitely need time and patience if you want it to come out nice.

Just 2 more days and its my days off. You have given me much more motivation in completing my project :D .

[TRF Drive Hard]

Originally posted by Whacky
Thanks TA03 DH.

Now i started on the bumper brace today and after an little more than an hour of Jigsawing and filing and 15mins for polishing its don!
It's made of 2mm aluminium L profile.
Here you can see the materials used for the parts so you can see i realy made them:D

DUDE THAT IS SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO SWEEET... HOW BOUT A DEAL MAN!?!?!?!?! CAN YOU CUT ONE UP FOR ME? BUT I WOULD LIKE A LIL MODIFICATION TO IT... I PAY GOOD MONEY TO HAVE ONE... HIT ME UP ON A PM MAN!!!!!

TED

[SegaBowMan]

You could use zip ties and just trim the foam. That's my plan.

[Burnout]

I just finished the posts today before going to work. Its slightly shorter than the gap so it can get a firmer grip on the foam. It also made the slight droop on the sides level too.

Yeah at first I was going to go the easy route and just slap a foam bumper on there. Like tracing the bumper into the foam and then mill it out so the bumper would sit lower. I have seen TL01's with the foam slapped on and IMO it looks too high up there.

Another plan was to do something like Whacky's set up but with thick plastic only for the 2 bottom holes (something like the Megatech bracket) with a TA04 top bumper peice and the LA swaybar holder.

[Whacky]

Thanks TA03 DH,

I have seen your cars and they look realy realy trick and i'am very flatterd about the compliment, but there are two problems!

1 - I live in the Netherlands, and if i make you one i think there are a lot of guyes who want one to.
2 - I can't order all of these nice shiny parts i want to have for my cars because i am broke and don't have a creditcard, while there are nice bumpers out there like the megatech one!!! So i make my own to have a little exclusifnes to my car:D

Now first of all i think the eye candy out there is way to expensive (and i want a lot of it TRF Dampers, Steel pinions) and most of the TL01 Drivers buy the car becouse they start in the hobby of RC or they do not have as much money to spend.
It's like Micro$$$oft thats why i use Linux 99% of the time.

I started this "Do it yourself thread" to show you and everyone else out there who want's a trick TL01 that you can make alot of these parts yourself if you want to without having to spend alot of money. (It's the first car i have seen that makes it posible to make your one parts.)
And maybe having some exclusive parts that no one else has.
It will give you a greater feel of satisfaction when you finished a part and it looks good to.
Now i'am 26 years of age and bin in the modeling hobby for 15 years now i started with static models, wooden RC Boats, RC airoplanes, RC helicopters and for the last 2 years RC cars.
I know this will give me a slight advantage about creativity and finishing of the parts but like i said a few posts back it all comes down to PATIANCE, TIME and the RIGHT TOOLS (No dremel).


Now for all of you guyes still wanting one here is a site you can order the Carson bumper from (it hase a BLUE alu brace) i have found a Dutch company that ships parts to the rest of the world (site is in English).
http://www.rccarinternational.com/
Now click on TO THE SHOP and go to TAMIYA, Click on TAMIYA TUNING PARTS on the top of the screen and after that select TAMIYA TUNING PARTS in the red box. Happy browsing.


Well having this said i hope alot of people out there with no or little money will start making there own parts and be proud of what they have just did.

Sorry for the long post but i hope it gives u something to think about.:D

As for BURNOUT, keep up the good work man looks very nice!

Greatz Mark aka Whacky.

[Burnout]

Thanks Whacky. I would love to finish my bumper within my days off from work.

Being in the hobby for that long you damn well better know something :D . I think some people just don't have the time, tools, or knowledge to do it. Some are just too lazy too.

[Whacky]

Time is something you can make, you can buy the tools (Jigsaw +files +/- $10) and knowledge Some of us give examples with pictures.

Now i dont want you to create some alu suspension stuff (would be cool though:D ).
These are just simple little things, and if you think long enuf you will figure out how its made. (that's one of the biggest challenges of model builing).


Burnout, where did you make those posts from?

Man you smoke without tabako, must be one quick healthy smoke then:D :D :D . I prefer mine with tabako:rolleyes: :D


-Mark

[Burnout]

The posts are Bolink body posts. Its nylon, not plastic. After many years in the hobby and owning many cars, some of these cars have left their parts behind while they moved on to another owner :).

Hehe, yeah I totally forgot to trimm down the picture. You guys aren't suppose to see 'other' things on my desk. But if you must know, its cigaweed...JK. Some smokes are packed loose so as for like Marlboros its a good idea to pack the tobacco in. The intake is smoother, ashing is better, its firmer and it takes out the flimsyness of them.

Sorry for being a little off topic, and all you fellas keep on watching those "TRUTH" commercials (I know I am).

Now I'm trying to decide which foam to get. I think there are 2 kinds out there. A more spacious foam and a more tightly packed foam. I think I will probably try HPI foams since its easier to obtain. Tamiya's would be nice since its like keeping it in the company but I will assume that its harder to find.

http://www.rccarinternational.com/shop/media/tl01bumperca.jpg
Carlson bumper.

[corwin99]

I know all about packin' the Marly's ;) I used to have to pack 'em otherwise they'd fall out halfway through because i flick ashes pretty hard. I quit smokin' almost a year ago (march 22nd)

as for Foam bumpers i've found that most people make foam that is sorta fuzzy, a little bit more compressible, but HPI uses sort of a lighter air-yer stuff... its a little harder. I prefer the non HPI ones myself.

[Burnout]

Yeah, I hate it when it falls apart. Especially when the cherry falls on my lap while driving. Good job on quitting :).

Youre right. The HPI bumper didn't seem that compressed from the pictures. The Tamiya ones also look something like HPI's. I have never touched or held them in my hands before so I wouldn't know. I would also think that being so would end up with a chopped looking fuzzy bumper. A definite no no for me.

[Whacky]

He i got a PRO3 for 2 years now and i only used it on the racetrack.
Let me tell you i stop counting after a 100 encounters with the sidewalls/boards and curvestones.
The only thing on the car that is a 100% intact seems to be the FOAM Bumper.:D :D


-Mark

[Subie555]

Here's a question..........Will the TA03 Ti Suspension Shafts(53309) fit on the TL01?

Thanks in advance

Subie555

[SegaBowMan]

I think it is the right size but I don't know. The TA03 super low frintion dampers are a direct drop in for the TL01 so it should be alright.(I'm not sure)


The Duratrax 8T racing reverse esc:
The BEC rating is 5v/1A. is this good for the TL01? In this review (http://www.rccentral.com/article.asp?ATCL_ID=64&PAGE_NUM=208) it says that it isn't enough, but it was used in a two servo(4ws) truck. It should be enough but I want to make sure. I'm using the standard 3003 futaba servos. They are quite fast when using the BEC on the MSC. What is the BEC rating on the MSC?

[Whacky]

He SegaBowMan,

MSC Bec is the same as your battery voltage!

As for the ESC i think 1A is a little bit low, if you use it with the stock motor and a standard Servo it will do ok, but it depends on the motor, and grip you have.
If the car is high grip or goes faster the servo will draw more amps then at crusing speed!
I have the same servo as you do and it draws +/- 0.5A when the weels are off the ground.
If i where u i would look for an ESC with BEC 6V/1.5A minimum.

I have the Hitec HFX 300
Cells 4-10
Motorlimit 10 Turn
BEC 6V/5Amps
Forward Current 300A
Braking current 100A
Frequency output 1850Hz (smoother Trottle controll).
weight 53grams/1.9oz.

And it has adjustable Tractioncontrol between 20-120 Amps.
I had this ESC in many cars and never had any problem with it!


If you buy a decent ESC now you can put this in other cars to!


-Mark.

[SegaBowMan]

I was looking at that esc too. It seems pretty good except that you have to solder the battery and motor connections on. I know how to use a soldering iron but I don't want any trouble(anything could go wrong). Then I saw the 8T pro racing esc (no reverse). The BEC is 6v/3A. Unfortunately, it's a 3 wire esc and splicing wires is not my specialty. I might as well get a dually cause it has not motor limit and has all the connections. I wanted reverse because I just bash but it is not worth it. I will just walk to the car and pick it up:) TA03 Drive Hard, I know you said that the esc is kind of big but it has no motor limit. I plan on going at least to 10 turn motors in the near future so a Fusion wouldn't serve my needs. Thank you guys for all your help and suggestions.

[SegaBowMan]

scratch that. I'm getting this esc. It's the same price, same performance and everything is included so no soldering

http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXRE98&P=M

http://www2.gpmd.com/image/a/ascm8362.jpg

SPECS: Voltage Input: 4-8 cells (4.8-9.6V)
On-resistance: 0.0012 Ohms
Momentary Load (1 sec): 340 Amps
Brief Load (30 sec): 105 Amps
Continuous Load (5 min): 65 Amps
Weight: 47 grams
Length: 41mm
Width: 36mm
Height: 19mm
Single Motor Limit: Any Modified Motor
PWM Frequency: 2500 Hertz

[Whacky]

He SegaBowMan,

Nice ESC, but when using a 10T the Tamiya plug will melt after a wile.
There is to much resitence in the plug and the motor plugs, this willl heat up the connectors and the wires and you will get performance loss.
Better to solder them to the motor and use Deans Plugs or Corally plugs for the battery.


-Whacky.

[TRF Drive Hard]

I recently picked this up the other day from tower...
http://www2.gpmd.com/image/f/futm0939.jpg
Motor limit is 5 but that's cool... i plan to mount this in my tl01:D

[minijosh]

hey segabowman, i have that exact esc. i like it but going from a car with reverse to none is a killer. i suck at racing so reverse ws my best friend. now i have to rely on the marshalls. DOH! If you get this esc, could you get me a copy of the instructions? mine came from a guy for 15 pounds and a case of beer. not bad eh? but german instructions. another DOH!. I switched all my connections over to power poles. cannot mess up red and black connectors. even for me, which is good news.

[tl01dude03]

I'm, thinking of getting a lrp ESC. is the lightweight chassis worth getting? Is it easy to dissassemble the whole car and then re-assemble it?

[TRF Drive Hard]

Originally posted by tl01dude03
I'm, thinking of getting a lrp ESC. is the lightweight chassis worth getting? Is it easy to dissassemble the whole car and then re-assemble it?

The light weight chassis only weighs a few grams less then the stock... not much of a noticable feelng... if you plan to race it, then every light weight optional part should be taken, every gram cut counts... now taking it apart should be fun:D who wouldnt want too... the chassis is a 3 piece frame, cant go wrong there...;)

[SegaBowMan]

HEY MINIJOSH, you're in luck. I happened to find an online version of the manual.

It's in pdf format and is 2.8 mb big. this is the download (http://www.teamassociated.com/shusting/CatalogHub/manuals/LRPmanuals/ipc_manual.pdf) It includes other models but your specific model is part of it.

[minijosh]

thanks alot segabowman. downloaded and now i can read it hehe. brakes here i come.

[mugenseike]

hi, i'm a newbie to this site, i've been into r/c for 4 year's and i have a TL-01 stock except a some ano'ed wheel screw's and a quantum reverse esc but i want the 150 dollar one since it's the best mine ran me 90 i got anoher one for my tc3 i just can't belive that i'm going 55 mph on a electric car, by the way it's a decked out approx. $2000 wasted on it including everything it's a team factory version with a hacker brushless motor and the quantum reverse esc everything else is either alum or ano'ed, go figure and i just came here to know what mod's i could get for it, i'm going for a hacker brushless motor but i want some speed tuned gear's and this will interfere so i think i'll go with a reedy or trinity motor, i want some part's of it to be ano'ed but all of them deal with the suspension iam also currently awaiting some custom graphite chassis modification's to it and 1 shaft that i ordered they don't got it in stock so I told the guy "what the heck order two pair's of the Skyline GT-R universal shaft's" since i was already out of caing for about a week due to my shaft but i still could race with my tc3 so i was relieved, i'm still currently waiting for my part to arrive, being patient for it to arrive as for the custom graphite chassis modification's they will cut out graphite and they will concentrate on the suspension they will make a graphite bumper top brace they will precut the hole's with a dremel tool into the plastic front bumper and into the foam so it will fit correctly then they will make shock tower's out of graphite so it will resist the impact this will be easier because they will basically just have to cut it with a dremel tool and then just screw it down to the original piece, basically my car is being used as a guinea pig because they have never done this to a tamiya before so it will be their test lab rat i guess, this mod will cost me about $80 i guess, they haven't gave me a estimate but who care's i'll be the guy with a TL-01 with a graphite modded chassis, also should i get hot bodies oil filled ano'ed shock's.

[Whacky]

Look what i found on the Tamiyaclub site.
There was a guy having this on his TL01, so i mailed him to ask what it whas.
It's a Aluminum Motor mount made by Carson.
I will se if i can get my hands on one of these.
Carson also makes a BLUE Alu propellorshaf, Clipon heatsink and Alu hexadapters.

Here is a picture of the Alu motor mount.

[mugenseike]

nice:D me like. i am planning on getting a purple ano'ed prop shaft for my TL-01 mugen nsx either that or a carbon fiber one.

[Subie555]

Anyone using the TL-01 Rear Toe-In Hubs?...........and any difference in stability on the straights?

I thinking of getting them but only if they make a noticable difference.

Thanks

Subie555

[Whacky]

Originally posted by Subie555
Anyone using the TL-01 Rear Toe-In Hubs?...........and any difference in stability on the straights?

I thinking of getting them but only if they make a noticable difference.

Thanks

Subie555


They do not only make the car more stable on the straights but also make cornering smoother (less twitchy).

If you don't race with your car and you like how it is now forget about the rear toe-in hubs.


Mugenseike, get the carbon one should be lighter.


-Mark.

[TRF Drive Hard]

Are those Carson parts custom made?

[Whacky]

Originally posted by TA03 Drive Hard
Are those Carson parts custom made?

No, they have some parts for the TL01 all in Blue Aluminum.
There isn't a thing you can find on there site exept for the TL01 tuning set (consists of 4 blue treaded alu shocks, BB's, and the speed tuned gearset.)
Carson and Tamiya are working together in Germany.
At the TCS in Germany Carson Hopups are allowed.

Until yesterday i din't know they made this stuf.
Here are some parts i know now they make.
Blue Alu Hex Adapters. (like Tamiya ones, with O-rings to hold the pin).
Blue Alu Clipon Heatsink,
Blue Alu motor plate.
Blue Alu Propellor shaft.
Blue Alu Treaded Shocks.
Foam bumper including Blue Alu Brace and alu bottom plate.


-Mark.

[Whacky]

I finaly finished my BUMPER.
And i had to do a major rework on the Carson shocks.
1 - Sand the scratches of the shockbody.
2 - Put some Orange O-Rings in (Where Black ones in there):(
3 - Drill 2 1mm holes in the pistons to make them work properly.

[Whacky]

And another picture.

[Whacky]

This is how it is made!.

[Whacky]

And a nice detail!

[Aluma]

sssswwwweeetttt bumper... I could have used that when i had my TL01... could have saved me bout 4 bodies! hahahaha

[Burnout]

Very nice Whacky. Excellent work on it. In fact (IMO :p ) its better than anything out there. Now how about some angle shots?:D

[Whacky]

Thanks,

You mean a angled picture like this?

[Burnout]

That's what I wanted to see ;) . Looks good. I see you done some more stuff to it. I like those dish rims and the blue shocks and stuff you have on there. Looking better and better! Now what you need is the Long Arm kit!

Keep up the good work. Its really nice to see someone here actually doing things to their TL01 (and showing pics).

[mugenseike]

Whacky---i think i'll go with the carbon prop shaft, it will save me a few grams and it'll look nice at the same time, and awesome bumper modification that's really nice, also those shock's are nice looking, i will get some better oil filled shock's in purple ano from hot bodies for $20 a pair, not bad and they can be adjusted to different ride height's for track,road,and indoor "carpet" course they come with extra o-ring's also.I see you don't got much mod's now, "flashy" wise, a'll i got at the moment that is flashy is those lock nut's for the wheel's in purple ano from hpi but they look great on my volk racing te37's with the reinforced type-A slick's, got a castrol mugen nsx ya know so they come stock i will get some hood pin's in purple and the hex hub's in purple ano also it will look nice and the hex hub's will e aluminum so it will last me a few year's.:D

[TRF Drive Hard]

Hey Whack... thats very nice man, very trick;)

[Whacky]

Thanks guys.

When i have sold my PRO3 i can buy the LA kit and maybe some universels for it so for now this will have to do.

Well racing season starts in about 3 weeks so until that time i have to find something else to make for it.
Maybe a Adjustable Motor mount so i can use different pinions!:D


-Whacky.

[Cychalen]

Whacky.
Looks like an expert job. :cool:

[Whacky]

Thanks Cychalen.

UPDATE !!!

After a couple of hours fiddeling around i now have my first prototype of a adjustable Motor Mount wich acepts the Pinions 18T-24T.
Now all i need is some 3mm Aluminium to make it from.

[mugenseike]

that's really cool, i just can't wait for my part's to come(Skyline GT-R universal shaft...basically a dogbone,lol), once there here i can get the pair (2) of purple ano'ed shock's which look killer and get 2 pair's(4) of Tamiya stiff spring's.:D

[Whacky]

He mugenseike,

While you are on the purple tour you could also get the purple Alu clampon hexadapters from HPI and the Purple Clipon Heatsink from Orion, this would look cool to.

O i got the 3mm alu plate, so i can give my arms and tools a real workout again. :D :D :D


-Mark.

[mugenseike]

whacky, don't those hex adapter's cost like $24 buck's? I ain't gonna buy that at this money i'm dead broke and my stock one's will do me fine..for now, because the plastic one's the TL-01 get's worn and exhausted and sooner or later it start's to slip, so I might get it in the near future but not now, i will think about that purple heatsink but you now what,i'm not going for show only I didn't waste 90 on a LRP ESC Quantum reverse for nothing you know, but thank's a lot for the info, i might go into the blue ano tour sooner or later you know.:D

[Subie555]

I was wondering how often you should change the brush springs in your motors?

I'm using a Core Stock RS and after about 40 runs the brushes are in excellent condition but one of the springs seems to have lost it's tension.

Is this normal?

Thanks in advance

Subie555

[mugenseike]

um you know i wouldn't wory about that unless your car's brushes get loose.:D

[rcsupra]

holy crap this is the longest thread i've ever seen, maybe cause TL01's kick so much ass! its stupid how modded mine is, who ever says TL01s are just beginner beaters is sadly mistaken:D

lets all post the mods we've done to our TL01's, i'd like to see what you've done
my TL01:
Tamiya Castrol Supra Body (silver)
HG Aluminum LeMans Wheels
Tamiya Lightweight Chassis
Tamiya Swaybar Set
Tamiya Quick Release Battery Holder
Tamiya Adjustable tie bars
Acoms ESC
Team Orion 15T (D4 comin soon)
Carson BB, Shocks, Speed Tuned Gears
Carbon fiber driveshaft
Eagle Racing Springs (Hard Rear, Soft front)
and more that i can't remember

[mustangman79]

Mine's practically stock. All I have added was 6 BB's to it. In a couple of weeks I'm going to get the rest of the BB's for it and the adjustable links. I can't wait till it's nice enough to race it against my pro 3.

[Tjappie]

He guys, i bought a TL-01B (Stadium Raider)and also the Carson
tuning set(It really is an improvement!). But the manual for the speed-gears says that it cannot be used with the stadium raider.
Well, i put it in and my car is much, MUCH faster now! Acceleration is also improved! Ok, the bearings also help but i recommend this hop-up to everyone. I'm runnin stock motor.

On towerhobbies it says that the lightweigt chassis also cannot be used with the TL-01. is this true?

By the way, to use the Carson shockson the Stadium Raider you should take them apart and remove the 2 black o-rings on the shaft. (and for rallying off course)

[Whacky]

Atlast some new TL01 Freaks:D :D :D.

Tjappie,

The Stadium raider is just a TL01 with some long arms atached to it, some bigger wheels and a different body.

All the stuff of the TL01 can be mounted on the TL01-B.
But there are some parts that may not be desiged to take alot of abuse like in offroad.
The LW chassis should fit but i heard it breaks easyer than the stock chassis.
If you want to make it faster lighten up the drivetrain!!! 1 grams less rotating mass has more effect then 25 grams of less overall weight. So maybe u should consider the Carbon propellor shaft wich is 28 grams lighter than the stock one, it gives a little bit more topspeed but much more acceleration.

BTW you mention to remove the two Black O-rings on the Shaft???:confused: :confused:
What shaft? if u mean the one of the shock did u put something else in it because the oil will leak out! and u will have some stupid friction shocks again.


-Whacky.

[Saboteur]

Nice work man. I also plan to fit the front and rear arms from my Neo onto the TL-01. It seems like a direct fit. I'll also get some new upgrades for it as well. Cant wait to try it out. :)

[Cychalen]

I think Tjappie is talking about the o-ring on the gearbox joint or on the wheel hub.

[Tjappie]

i'm talking about two black rubber o-rings that are under the piston inside the Carson-shocks. they are purely for adjusting the rideheigth, because they move up and down together with the piston. i don't mean the o-rings inside the shock-body.
sorry if my english isn't perfect.
i'm from Holland:cool:

today i did some tuning to: i replaced the upper suspension-arms with some kyosho rods(turnbuckles, right?) and ball-ends.it made the suspension a little less sloppy.

if a tl-01b has longer arms than a tl-01, than the tl-01 must be extremely narrow?

now i'm gonna make a list of what parts to buy( probably all of them:D) tamiya parts are much cheaper than kyosho parts and i spend allot off money on my cars:cool:

[RCBuddha]

Does anyone know of a one way I can put into my TL01? I was reading that TL01 modification article on Tamiya's website, and the author says he put in a one-way diff, but he forgot to list the part #.

I remember Kose making a one way diff that went inside of the bevel gear diff in the Ta01 series chassis. Anyone have part #'s or suggestions?

Thanks,

Buddha

[anthonyfa18]

yes you can put one-way on a tl01

Tamiya 4WD Front One-Way Differential Unit (http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXGH56&P=7)

[Whacky]

He Tjappie,

He your from holland! ME TO.

Now i get it with the O-Rings:D , but u should change the black O-Rings under the clip for the Tamiya Orange ones or your shocks will leak!!!

And for the arm's i could be mistaken, the TL01 is 180mm wide with 0mm offset tires.

And for Tamiya parts being cheap:confused: No Way.
See if u can get your hand on some Carson parts they are much cheaper.

I have seen the catalog of carson and there where some nice blue alu parts in there.


-Mark.

[RCBuddha]

anthony,

Thanks for the info and the link. I was wondering though, that goes inside the diff right? thanks,

Buddha

[ta03 tuner]

Hey you TL01 tuners ever run a TA03F pro before? I'm having problems with my TA03F acceleration...I once owned a TL01 and boy did that thing GO! I assumed that I was upgrading with the TA03 but now I'm not sure....How well does TL01 accelerate compared to today's new gen tourers? I love blowing out the competiton with "non competition" tourers....though my track is filled with some pretty hardcore tough competition...(TC3, XXXs, and mostly Schumacher Missions...) Does TL01 handle as well as TA03F too? Thanks Dudes!

[anthonyfa18]

i want to get a new ESC, right now i have Duratrax ESC-100 By Futaba. it is a good esc but can only put stock motor. i want to put a 15T motor. what is the best esc for me?? i like the Novak Explorer II and i dont want to spend 2 much money.

also what is a good 15t motor???

[Saboteur]

The Explorer sport 2 is a great esc. It can handle mod motors down to 15T's though you may get away with a 14t. Check out speedgems 15T motors; they are great for the price.

[RCAttack]

Hi Anthony,

You may want to consider the GM 'Dr Speed' 16TTT motor & GM V4R ESC. I have them in my car & it is seriously fast. They are not expensive & are excellent value for money. Check them out at
www.gm-racing.de :D :p

[DragonGC]

I was wondering, can u fit side by side battery packs into the tl01 chassis? Has anyone done it yet? if so post some pics please. and if you cannot get the side by side packs in, what can i do?

[Whacky]

Originally posted by DragonGC
I was wondering, can u fit side by side battery packs into the tl01 chassis? Has anyone done it yet? if so post some pics please. and if you cannot get the side by side packs in, what can i do?

They don't fit.
But u can dremel out the battery slot to make them fit.
And make sure u have shrickwrap around those battery's becouse there is not mutch that supports them.

-Mark.

[RCAttack]

Yes, I think I have it, Have made a few aluminium parts for my ride, here are a few pics.

Cheers Brad

[RCAttack]

Rear View

[RCAttack]

Other Side

[Whacky]

Whacky's Disease

LOL:D :D :D

Very nice RCAttack;) keep up the good work.

Maybe someone else will get infected;) :D :D :D



-Mark

[Whacky]

He Burnout,

How is your bumper project??


-Mark.

[Burnout]

*sighs* Yeah I know I'm so pathetic, I didn't finish the bumper yet :rolleyes: . That's why I haven't been to this forum in a while to show my face. It will eventually be finished. Probably the hardest part is to find a more compressed foam bumper. I don't like HPI's material, and all these shops around me pretty much carries HPI stuff or car specific stuff (predrilled holes!). I haven't came across a universal tight packed foam bumper yet.

You keep up the excellent work Whacky! Nice motor mount you got going there. Lucky you, you also probably have easy access to those Carlson parts that us US people don't get :mad: .

Nice TL01 RCAttack. Are gonna dye those peices you made? Those inch up black wheels look nice on there.

[Whacky]

He burnout,

Look for the TC3 bumper it is dence foam and large enuf to cut to the size u need.
I even read somewhere a guy used those foam cussions for the knees when working in the garden or so to cut his own bumper and it comes in different colors also.

And yes it is eazy for me to get the Carson stuf, but i can't get the Integy, megatech or penguin parts overhere so it's a fare match i think.

PS i have seen the Carson catalog and they have some new parts. (Not to make you yelouse Burnout) but for the European people on the board!
And check this out. Carson is a member of the Tamiya Group in Germany and these parts are allowd during the TCS races in Germany.

Blue Alu rear brace.
Blue Alu HexAdapters with 2mm offset
Blue Alu HexAdapters with 4mm offset for the TG10 long wheel axels.
My LHS had the Alu motormount in stock and i looked awesome but then again i'am broke:( :(


-Mark.

[Whacky]

Originally posted by ta03 tuner
Hey you TL01 tuners ever run a TA03F pro before? I'm having problems with my TA03F acceleration...I once owned a TL01 and boy did that thing GO! I assumed that I was upgrading with the TA03 but now I'm not sure....How well does TL01 accelerate compared to today's new gen tourers? I love blowing out the competiton with "non competition" tourers....though my track is filled with some pretty hardcore tough competition...(TC3, XXXs, and mostly Schumacher Missions...) Does TL01 handle as well as TA03F too? Thanks Dudes!

I don't have a TA03 so i can't tell u if it is better and handeling will probably be worse then the PRO cars.
But in the TCS race in the Netherlands (23T motor) a TL01 came second!!:eek: :eek: :eek: :D .
The first place went to a TB-EV03 and the 3e place to a TA04 so the TL01 defenetly has potential!!!!


-Mark.

[mugenseike]

hey RCattack, something you probably haven't noticed is that you have a "camber" problem, when dealing with real car's and when dropping one this happen's but it occur's on mini r/c's too.:( anyway's for any of you who own a real 1:1 scale car :D and that you have dropped it, you get a camber problem if the rim is tucked inside the wheelwell but i noticed on the rear view picture that your wheel's are not correctly aligned, exactly like on my TL-01 so what i did is that i got into working on my c-arm's and corrected the problem in a matter of a few minutes,you should do so as well although it's a bit messy,hehe, aluminum shiny bit's---me like:D

[TRF Drive Hard]

Well... if you look closely... he has the LSA set on it... all he has to do is adjust the upper links... no hackin there or messy jobs;)

[RCAttack]

Thanks for the concern, but I don't have a rear camber problem. I haven't glued the tires on yet, they were just stuffed on for the pic & that one wasn't on properly.

Hey Burnout, how do you 'dye' aluminium? I have tried anodizing them black, but it didn't really work to a standard I was happy with. I would love to get them Hot Pink, it looks really cool against black.

Cheers Brad:

[mugenseike]

oh I see well all I have to say is don't use super glue, use Hobby CA tire glue it's the best but watch out! it can be a sticky issue:rolleyes:

[TRF Drive Hard]

Hot pink:eek: man that would be a sight to see:p

[mugenseike]

yes it would:D
-Dave

[RCAttack]

Well sometimes you have to go to extremes to make your ride stand out from the rest & I think that would do it. Wait till you see the body, Toms Supra in black and wait for it............................
Hot Pink Trim...:cool: :cool: :cool:

[TRF Drive Hard]

I'm still planning out my Hello Kitty Skyline... HKS... get it?:D

[Cychalen]

That's a good one.:)
I beat you by almost 4 months. Here is my Hello Kitty Super Altezza. :D

Click me! (http://www.radiocontrolzone.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=96576&perpage=25&pagenumber=2)

[TRF Drive Hard]

Im still looking for a nice decent hello kitty sticker to place on the front hood...:(

[Saboteur]

LOL!! I think I remember having one of those hello kitty badaides a class mate gave me back in the 6th grade. Wonder how's she doing..probably tell her I still got that bandaide. :)

[mugenseike]

i need some te37's for my tamiya TL-01 nsx but not in the stock color "green" it's nasty.:(

[RcMania24]

Need some opinions on a price.

How much do you think i could get for this tl01 or how much i should put it up for. the chassi is rough since i cut vent holes but it has bearings and speed tuned gears and a traxxas servo and oil filled shocks. and it comes with the celica body.and tamiya rims and tires and in one pic you can see the tires have great tread there like new. All opinions are welcome. Heres the links to the pics of it.


http://www.******.net/media/tl01-07.jpg
http://www.******.net/media/tl01-08.jpg
http://www.******.net/media/tl01-01.jpg
http://www.******.net/media/tl01.jpg
http://www.******.net/media/tl01-02.jpg

[Burnout]

Whacky, I dunno why but these stores around do not carry much for the TL01 hop ups. You can drive to any LHS and find hop ups like Carlson products. Here I have to special order the parts. Simple parts such as the QR battery holder or even the carbon shaft I had problems getting them. And LA sway bars don't even think about it, impossible to find any shop that carries it. Megatech? Definitely has to be special ordered. I don't even want to think just how hard it is to get LA arms if one of them breaks (knocks on wood). Quite a few shops do carry the whole LA kit but thats about it. The TL01 sure has the hop ups out there but its just hard to obtain. And finding a Cross Foam Bumper is near impossible.

I have found a bumper that has the perfect height to fit between my setup. Its from the Trinity Reflex. All it needs is to be trimmed on the sides (since its for their 200mm gas car) and the only problem is its RED! Maybe it can be dyed.

Rcmania24, I think you'll probably get nomore than $50...if you're lucky.

http://www.******.net/media/tl01-08.jpg

Now that I used my comp, I can clearly see how thrashed the chassis is. So I will also say slightly below $50 IMO.

[RcMania24]

Rcmania24, I think you'll probably get nomore than $50.

Ya thats what i was thinking so i guess i will be getting it posted in the forsale part.

[TRF Drive Hard]

Dude... im guessing a lil less but 50 is a lucky thing if it sells that much... wow talk about swiss cheese:D

[RcMania24]

Well the 50 isnt set in stone but you would think it was. i guess if it doesnt sell i will have fun setting it on fire and watching it melt slowly to the ground.

[mugenseike]

as a second reminder do ANY of you know if they are any color option's for the volk racing te37's instead of green,(vomit) :( .

[Cychalen]

What about gun metal?
http://www.radiocontrolzone.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=784487

[mugenseike]

yeah those are the one's i was looking for thank's, now do you know the part number by any chance. :rolleyes:

[corwin99]

Welp...
here are more pictures of my girlfriend's updated TL-01... its got new shocks. And there's my lousy bumper that I cut to peices. But it'll work for now. I probably shouldn't have gotten one with holes.

The body at the bottom is the one she painted.. and of course i did everything else on the car :rolleyes:

http://dood.ca/hobby/images/photo_rc_tl01.jpg

http://dood.ca/hobby/images/photo_rc_tl0102.jpg

http://dood.ca/hobby/images/photo_rc_body02.jpg

[mugenseike]

oh man that look's....strange, the bumper I mean:D , the body is umm how can i put this... free-spirited with that cooky paintjob, trying to adapt a hpi body on a tamiya car is simple, but overall it's good.:)

[masTers]

Originally posted by mugenseike
as a second reminder do ANY of you know if they are any color option's for the volk racing te37's instead of green,(vomit) :( .

If you dont want em? Send em this way, i cant find a pair anywhere at all!

Steve

[speedywell86]

I have a tl-o1 with a peak 12 turn, tekin esc, carbon prop rod, carbon gear shafts, full acer ball bearings, lightweight king pins, and x-radials. I have only ran into heat problems running the 23- tooth pinion. But thats with short run times

[speedywell86]

are you talking about the factory tl-o1b arms, are is this an actual sedan hop-up. and do you have to run a wider body.

[corwin99]

Originally posted by mugenseike
oh man that look's....strange, the bumper I mean:D , the body is umm how can i put this... free-spirited with that cooky paintjob, trying to adapt a hpi body on a tamiya car is simple, but overall it's good.:)

yah I had a better bumper on their too but i lost it. I think i left it somewhere when i was working on it. So i grabbed a trinity one and had to shred it just to make it fit under the bodies.

The body my girlfriend isn't that bad, she just didn't do a very good job with the masking. Not really my style. I'm working on a flourescent orange one with white strips and trim and a chinese word on it. the masking came out well, just need to get some white paint to finish it now :)

Tamiya Bodies are expensive and hard to get in Canada... so i just didn't want to bother..