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RS4 3 Racer
03-12-2003, 07:55 AM
Yes the motor makes a big difference here ill shown you the specs
O.S. .15 CV-RX w/10C Slide Carb
Displacement: 0.152 cu in (2.49cc)
Bore: 0.598" (15.2mm)
Stroke: .0539" (13.7mm)
Output: 1.2 hp @ 31000 rpm
Practical RPM Range: 4000-36000
Weight: 6.88/6.82oz (195/193.2g)
KronicRacer
03-12-2003, 11:26 AM
Originally posted by rico750sxi
I emailed wolkpack a while ago and got this response:
OK, you need the first speed adapter, gears and the two "C" clips.
the Idea was to up date a drivers 2 speed whit the 2 shoe "associate"
2 speed parts, which lend them self perfectly for the HPI cars.
you have a choice of one way bearing adapter...... you have the optional wolfpack or the standard hpi bearing. with the wolfpack it jacks the price up to $$70-80$$ total. i dont know if the hpi is cheaper.......
KronicRacer
03-12-2003, 11:44 AM
Originally posted by RCRACER2471
I solved my engine problems. Thanx for the help.....Can you tell me specifically what tooth size for each gear. I want more on the top end......Not too concerned about acceleration
yellow 17 tooth for the first gear and red 23 tooth for the second gear.
rico750sxi
03-12-2003, 02:35 PM
Just updated my RTR3 with HPI's 2 needle carb(#1634), cvec pipe, and 2 speed. My problem is that the carb doesn't rotate smoothly, it sometimes hangs up and locks the car at nearly half throttle. To my knowledge this is the same carb that's on the .12ss, so I was wondering if anyone else ever had that problem. It's not a problem with my servo or linkage because if I unhook the linkage and move the carb by hand it still does it. But it doesn't do it all the time. Can I take the carb apart and investigate? Any ideas? Thanks in advance.
Also, what other carbs could I put on the .15fe?
RCRACER2471
03-12-2003, 02:50 PM
Originally posted by KronicRacer
yellow 17 tooth for the first gear and red 23 tooth for the second gear.
with stock spur gears right?
Prinler
03-13-2003, 02:44 AM
Ok guys. my friend is going agro.... he wants me to get a trx.15 .. the new one and put it in my RTR3 ..... Will it fit?
Also whats some of the better Motors to look at if i was looking for really good speed with a 2 speed trani?
Also Also :) how many tanks can i expect to get out of my motors? i have run like 15 in one day. like i would electric.
KronicRacer
03-13-2003, 10:46 AM
Originally posted by RCRACER2471
with stock spur gears right?
yep .... i havent seen any spurs at the moment but that doesnt mean they dont exist
Prinler
the trx .15 should fit i dont see why it wouldnt. i can fit a sirio outlaw(yeah i know its a .12) in the nitro 3. motor suggestions would be a sirio, sirio outlaw, os motors, orion wasps, and mugen
Prinler
03-13-2003, 01:04 PM
what models tho? i have no idea what im looking for. and im not made of money any more :)
RCRACER2471
03-13-2003, 03:03 PM
Kronic Racer- ill try that for $10 since there $5 a piece and there aluminum. Hope it works. Thanx for the help....
RS4 3 Racer
03-14-2003, 08:02 AM
Is the clutch holder on the 2 sspeed soposed to stop the tranny fro sping in the oppisite direction
RCRACER2471
03-14-2003, 05:26 PM
Does anyone know if the stock .fe and the SS use the same size pilot shaft. Im putting the SS on my RS4 RTR 3 and it doesnt fit...or am i doing something wrong?
70mphrs4
03-14-2003, 05:41 PM
there pretty much the same but the rtr doesnt come with engine mounts and you need thm 4 the .12
Danny Chi
03-15-2003, 05:28 PM
what do you think is the best way to spend 100$ on my RS4 3 type ss (only has a paris ringed pipe on it)?
RCRACER2471
03-15-2003, 07:11 PM
70mphrs4- I already got engine mounts. I found out my probly already. There both the same size I just have to cut the shaft a little bit for it to fit. Thanx for the help though....
Danny Chi- If i were you id get a racing clutch, high performance air filter, graphite upper deck, racing tank, titanium turnbuckles, steel universals....Thats all i can think of for right now....
KronicRacer
03-15-2003, 10:49 PM
Originally posted by RCRACER2471
Does anyone know if the stock .fe and the SS use the same size pilot shaft. Im putting the SS on my RS4 RTR 3 and it doesnt fit...or am i doing something wrong?
its the same crank all it is is a case of threadlock in the pilot shaft its self. it will fit. you dont have to cut it.
Vmax911
03-15-2003, 11:20 PM
Originally posted by Danny Chi
what do you think is the best way to spend 100$ on my RS4 3 type ss (only has a paris ringed pipe on it)?
Hey, how is that pipe working out for you? Did you have to mount it upside down, and if so dees the pressure line get knocked around a lot?
Danny Chi
03-16-2003, 12:52 AM
I bought the pipe, but havent mounted it yet (hasn't arived yet:( )
but I never thought of that? is it a problem? can I fix it?
RCRACER2471
03-16-2003, 11:37 AM
KronicRacer- I just went to the LHS yesterday to get a few parts and i asked the question about the engine. They both use the same size pilot shafts but I have to cut off a little of the crankshaft at a time from what he had said....So im a little confused now....
fezzy
03-16-2003, 03:29 PM
Hi guys, I had a really bad accident with my RS4 today, Worst ever in 9 years of RC if truth be told. I was driving round with my club round a track marked out from carpet tiles, The sun was beaming and it was a lovely day, Then while turning into a left hander the car came out abit and my mate with his 4-Tec 2.5 very gently touched the side of my car, Next thing I know its spinning in circles and I am hauling my fat ass over there to try and stop it, Every time it was going round in circles it was getting closer and closer to the kerb, It finally hit and went side on almost, This lined it up beautifully for the kerb straight ahead. It took off straight away with me still running after it and it hit the kerb infront of it at full throttle, I was absolutely devistated. Just when I thought it couldn't get any worse after it hit the kerb it started to make its way back towards the other kerb (and towards me), I didn't know whether to risk breaking my ankle trying to stop it or just let it go, Obviously I decided to let it go. Just as it started to head toward me though it stalled, The pipe had come off on impact and therefore not enough back pressure was created to force fuel round, So it starved of fuel.... Thankfully.
After acessing the damage my heart sunk, bent my chassis proper good this time, Its almost 90° bent straight up!!, Broke a rod end of the right side steering turnbuckle, Broke the upper bumper mount (lower is OK strangely), Bent the rear centre dogbone (No idea how), Bent the shock tower, Broke the front bodymounts and broke the little radiotray lid mount that the radio tray lid is body cliped in position with. I am absolutely gutted, I can't believe this has happened, In 4 weeks I have had two major impacts, This being the worst.
At first I was completely stumped as to what the heck happened, Radio worked fine, battery was fine, linkages where fine, antenna/receiver both fine. Then later I realised what side he hit me on, The right hand side (from the front) and whats there ladies and gents?! Yes.. the switch is, At that slow speed in which he hit me it must of hit the switch, To anyone reading if you are running the standard radio tray get that switch the hell out of the way of the side of the car, I thought it'd never happen but look at me now!!!.
Its not actually that bad I suppose, I bent my chassis last time when I hit the kerb so it was never going to last, I have my standard RTR3 non adjustable turnbuckles which are more than adequate for the steering, I have a spare shock tower and upper bumper mount too. All I need is a new chassis, new centre rear dogbone, couple of new secrews and a radiotray mount. However, For the price of HPI parts I may aswell buy upgrades. I am looking at a Wolfpack or HB Chassis, GPM Aluminium or HB Graphite Upper Deck (To cure my radio tray post mounting) and possible a HB Centre Rear Universal.
Just wanted to know if anyone had and experience with the Wolfpack chassis, The details on there website are vague.. What grade is it? How thick?.
fastharry
03-16-2003, 03:33 PM
thats a shame.....It happened to me too.....I was lucky though,I had my car going slow enough so when it shut off,it was catchable...
after that,I shaved the switch down..and cut some teeth in it with a file so I couild still grip it...
Vmax911
03-16-2003, 11:37 PM
Originally posted by Danny Chi
I bought the pipe, but havent mounted it yet (hasn't arived yet:( )
but I never thought of that? is it a problem? can I fix it?
I don't know if it will be a problem or not, that's why I was asking you! :D
Anybody else have an aftermarket pipe on a NRS4 3?
fezzy
03-17-2003, 05:31 AM
I did a post not so long ago about fitting a AL12T Paris Ripple Pipe, That was abit awkward.
Shouldn't be too hard to find.
KronicRacer
03-17-2003, 10:54 PM
Originally posted by RCRACER2471
KronicRacer- I just went to the LHS yesterday to get a few parts and i asked the question about the engine. They both use the same size pilot shafts but I have to cut off a little of the crankshaft at a time from what he had said....So im a little confused now....
dont use the old pilot shaft. i had the same prob with the 15ss. the only way it was resolved was by getting a new pilot shaft..... all hpi cranks are the same length i wouldnt recommend cutting it yet try out a new one.... im gonna compare mine 15fe and 12rss motors to see if they are the same length just to make sure.
rico750sxi
03-18-2003, 12:16 AM
Okay, finally had some good weather, time to test the car out. I installed HPI's 2 needle carb. on my .15fe and I'm having a problem. After running the car at wide open throttle for like 5 seconds or so the car will die as soon as I let off the throttle. The car runs and idles fine otherwise. It was running great on Sat. and now this is happening. I'm thinking that the high needle is too rich and the excess fuel is killing the engine when I close the throttle. I want to try leaning it out some but I don't want to damage it either. The car also has a cvec pipe on it and a motorsavers air filter. My other thought was that thwe air filter is doing it. THis only started happening after I cleaned the filter and reoiled it with WD40(the instructions for the motorsaver said WD40 was okay to use and I didn't have filter oil). Any thoughts??
It's getting frustrating and I feel like all my carb. adjustments are making it worse not better. I bought the 2 needle carb to make it run better!!
rico750sxi
03-18-2003, 12:30 AM
Also, after you thread the pinions on to the 2 speed clutch bell, how do you get them off? I want to change gears but they are rreally on there good. Should I just buy a new bell and gears?
warden141
03-18-2003, 01:43 PM
first unscrew the screw
then use some elbow grease on the pinions
supra528
03-19-2003, 08:26 PM
well here it is... the "beast"... full story on the hpi-europe forum.. too lazy to type it up again
supra528
03-19-2003, 08:29 PM
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supra528
03-19-2003, 08:34 PM
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supra528
03-19-2003, 08:39 PM
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rico750sxi
03-20-2003, 08:05 AM
I'm reposting it guys, please help:
Okay, finally had some good weather, time to test the car out. I installed HPI's 2 needle carb. on my .15fe and I'm having a problem. After running the car at wide open throttle for like 5 seconds or so the car will die as soon as I let off the throttle. The car runs and idles fine otherwise. It was running great on Sat. and now this is happening. I'm thinking that the high needle is too rich and the excess fuel is killing the engine when I close the throttle. I want to try leaning it out some but I don't want to damage it either. The car also has a cvec pipe on it and a motorsavers air filter. My other thought was that thwe air filter is doing it. THis only started happening after I cleaned the filter and reoiled it with WD40(the instructions for the motorsaver said WD40 was okay to use and I didn't have filter oil). Any thoughts??
It's getting frustrating and I feel like all my carb. adjustments are making it worse not better. I bought the 2 needle carb to make it run better!!
KronicRacer
03-20-2003, 11:23 AM
Originally posted by rico750sxi
I'm reposting it guys, please help:
Okay, finally had some good weather, time to test the car out. I installed HPI's 2 needle carb. on my .15fe and I'm having a problem. After running the car at wide open throttle for like 5 seconds or so the car will die as soon as I let off the throttle. The car runs and idles fine otherwise. It was running great on Sat. and now this is happening. I'm thinking that the high needle is too rich and the excess fuel is killing the engine when I close the throttle. I want to try leaning it out some but I don't want to damage it either. The car also has a cvec pipe on it and a motorsavers air filter. My other thought was that thwe air filter is doing it. THis only started happening after I cleaned the filter and reoiled it with WD40(the instructions for the motorsaver said WD40 was okay to use and I didn't have filter oil). Any thoughts??
It's getting frustrating and I feel like all my carb. adjustments are making it worse not better. I bought the 2 needle carb to make it run better!!
how much did you soak the filter with the wd 40? you need to squeeze it untill the filter doesnt drip anymore. sounds like you have the settings right but not enuff air is getting in when you lay off the throttle with less air in the mix. the whole thing richens up and bogs it to death (too much oil in the filter)..... get some k&n filter oil for it instead its better than the wd 40 IMO.
KronicRacer
03-20-2003, 11:25 AM
Originally posted by supra528
well here it is... the "beast"... full story on the hpi-europe forum.. too lazy to type it up again
whoa ........ it looks like my car....:D great minds think alike
1 thing tho...... get new radio equipment;)
supra528
03-20-2003, 11:29 AM
yah i know.. im goin to get the new jr synthesized radio as soon as i can... but then ill have ta get a new fail safe... oh well... at least ill be drivin on this one for a good month or so
rico750sxi
03-20-2003, 04:35 PM
Kronic, thanks!! I was begining to think it was my air filter. I bought some specific filter oil and three replacement foams today. I'll try it and let you know.
Thanks again:D
ob-4forever
03-20-2003, 07:09 PM
yeah i have the rtr 3 with a nitro star ev0 II the discontinued one...my friend got it in there for me....where did u get that open 2 speed case and for how much??
supra528
03-20-2003, 09:24 PM
its from tower hobbies under hot bodies.. its like 48 bucks
ob-4forever
03-20-2003, 09:54 PM
yep i need one
KronicRacer
03-21-2003, 11:13 AM
Originally posted by ob-4forever
yep i need one
or you can try meganitro.com theydistribute directly from hotbodies click here (http://www.meganitro.com/hb%20nitro%20hop%20ups.htm)
supra528
03-21-2003, 01:51 PM
well for my car, im actually thinking of selling it after the first race of the season.. i just wana see how it does...if it comes within the points paying positions, then ill keep it and get a 705 or mtx-3 for my bday or somethin but if it doesnt come within the points positions then ill sell it prob. and get a 705 or mtx-3 sooner.. so if anyones looking to buy one sweet ass nitro 3, then this might be your opportunity
fastharry
03-21-2003, 02:25 PM
Originally posted by supra528
well for my car, im actually thinking of selling it after the first race of the season.. i just wana see how it does...if it comes within the points paying positions, then ill keep it and get a 705 or mtx-3 for my bday or somethin but if it doesnt come within the points positions then ill sell it prob. and get a 705 or mtx-3 sooner.. so if anyones looking to buy one sweet ass nitro 3, then this might be your opportunity
get the tc3 nitro......theres not one car I own(and that includes an Impulse and reflex,3 racer2's and an SS).....that turns as well as that car.....perect arc into and out of a corner....and cornering speed is where its at..
supra528
03-21-2003, 02:39 PM
naw.... im fixed on the 705 and mtx-3
fastharry
03-21-2003, 02:57 PM
OK....either one is good....but I will tell you,I'm partial to the 705...Serpent builds tanks for car...UNLESS you think parts might be an issue.....and don't get me wrong..My Impulse drives great....the one thing I like about teh tc3,besides it real easy to work on is that it handles equally well on rubber OR foams......
supra528
03-21-2003, 03:35 PM
wat u mean??
ob-4forever
03-21-2003, 03:38 PM
yeah i have the ob-4 and i like it...i want the reflex though any of you guyz trading for one or selling one???? make an offer!
fastharry
03-21-2003, 03:50 PM
Originally posted by supra528
wat u mean??
all the latest comp cars come with one ways and either ball diffs,or gear diffs in back..and suspensions that are optimized and designed for foam tires(and that means prepared race tracks)...so if you want top run on rubber tires,you have to find a good set up(if you can)...and get rid of the one way,esp if you want to run on unprepared parking lots(you can run the one way,but you'll have no front brakes...not easy to drive)
supra528
03-21-2003, 04:03 PM
well im getting it strictly for the track...so there would be no front brakes on the 705?? would that be bad for the track???
ob-4forever
03-21-2003, 04:12 PM
yo all go for a ob-4 eh?
there gr8 cars
put a mugen mt-12(thats what i have) and it hauls
gr8 turning and if u get a good raio its very easily tuned
eah
anyway it comes stock with a 2 speed n all.....u can actually get the rtr version(slim line) all aluminum black
n e way the only plastic on it is the arms and it has to battery modes (double A and rechargable)
then it has 2 places u can put it and accepts rotary and slide carbs
also excepts side and rear exhaust...has holes for bigger block engines
my dum ass friend put a .247 in it and it freaked out on him lol
it was hella fast though coulda done a wheely if geared right...
any way go for it...there cheap and gr8 to work with
fastharry
03-21-2003, 04:17 PM
Originally posted by supra528
well im getting it strictly for the track...so there would be no front brakes on the 705?? would that be bad for the track???
nope...one ways are used to give you maximum steering into a corner..and 4 wd pulling power out.....but,on a tight course,it can be tricky to drive(due to the braking situation)....you can put a gear diff in the front of the 705..not sure about teh MTX..
supra528
03-21-2003, 04:19 PM
buddy, stop talkin about ur ob4 here... go to the ob4 forum... anyways, also, what gearing should i use fo rhte track on this car?? cuz right now i know i got way too high gearing on... wat should i put on???
ob-4forever
03-21-2003, 04:32 PM
srry srry dont bite my leg off!!
gosh!
lol i know there is a forum i just luv this car!
:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:
tl_ke_racer
03-21-2003, 11:29 PM
i gotta get a header for my rtr.
rico750sxi
03-22-2003, 12:23 AM
I'm installing hpi's lightweight flywheel on my car and I was wonder ing how to get it on so it's perfect. What I mean is there is a little bit of run out on it when I turn it. Just a small amount like 0.5mm or so. Any ideas? Trial and error is the only method I can think of. I worried about vibration and damage if I run it with it not seating perfectly.
70mphrs4
03-22-2003, 03:27 PM
Originally posted by rico750sxi
I'm installing hpi's lightweight flywheel on my car and I was wonder ing how to get it on so it's perfect. What I mean is there is a little bit of run out on it when I turn it. Just a small amount like 0.5mm or so. Any ideas? Trial and error is the only method I can think of. I worried about vibration and damage if I run it with it not seating perfectly.
its ok if it isnt on perfect. all you gotta do is put on the collet and then put on the flywheel so its on the collet. and tighten the clutch nut if its SG or tighten the threaded thing and it will b good
rico750sxi
03-22-2003, 08:17 PM
70mphrs4: Thanks, that's what I was doing today when I figured I should tighten the pilot shaft just a little bit more........SNAP!!!!! Guess it was tight enough. I ordered my new crankshaft, it will be here in a few days. Live and learn....the hard way!
supra528
03-22-2003, 09:20 PM
how much $$$ do u think i could get for my car.. theres a lot af stuff that i would sell that you cant see and a TONNE of spares and optionals plus a novarossi pipe and motor saver filter and all that........email or pm me if anyone is interested in buying it.......
tamiyajoe
03-22-2003, 09:20 PM
i relly want this car, but i need some questions answered. is the ss that much faster than the 3? is it that much better that i should spend the extra money on a radio and go with a ss?
which would win in a (drag) race?
ans could some one please compare the top speeds? (ss=? and 3 =? )
70mphrs4
03-22-2003, 09:41 PM
Originally posted by tamiyajoe
i relly want this car, but i need some questions answered. is the ss that much faster than the 3? is it that much better that i should spend the extra money on a radio and go with a ss?
which would win in a (drag) race?
ans could some one please compare the top speeds? (ss=? and 3 =? )
the rtr 3 was clocked at 33mph and the ss it hik was clocked at 45. they are oth pretty much the same but the ss comes with a 2 speed, faster engine, turnbuckles and a tube header. all of those things you can get for a nitro 3. with an ss you do have to muy the servos and radio / transmitter.
the ss would win an a race.
tamiyajoe
03-22-2003, 09:53 PM
alright, thnx ALOT.
im gunna get the ss for many reasons:
i got xtra servos and an extra M8 reciever (mx-3)
there the same price for 2 spd and better motor
and finally b/c i LOVE kits.
everyone, thanks a lot, ttyl, in the mean time, im savin my pennies
supra528
03-22-2003, 10:03 PM
or mabye you could buy my 70mph nitro 3 wit a sirio outlaw!!!:D
tamiyajoe
03-23-2003, 12:30 AM
i just have a question bout the ss.
yesterday i was drivin a rtr that my friend got i did the little stuff and broke it in. well i noticed that i handles pretty well. now, since the ss is more power ful, if i give it full throttle will it just burn out all over the place and difficult to steer?
70mphrs4
03-23-2003, 01:49 PM
Originally posted by tamiyajoe
i just have a question bout the ss.
yesterday i was drivin a rtr that my friend got i did the little stuff and broke it in. well i noticed that i handles pretty well. now, since the ss is more power ful, if i give it full throttle will it just burn out all over the place and difficult to steer?
i have the rtr 3 but with a picco 7port turbo on it so i dont think that the ss would be hard to steer
RCRACER2471
03-23-2003, 05:22 PM
tamiyajoe, are you running the stock tires? because if you are they wear out quickly and dont have a lot of grip in the first place. Tell me if that doesnt help otherwise....
dumadiscount1
03-23-2003, 06:06 PM
hey peeps... i tried to reset my low end needle on the ss to factory settings coz i was having a few probs... it says 3 turns out from closed? i cant find closed it just screws in at least 7-8 turns so i didnt screw it anymore. this happen to anyone else or i broken something
tamiyajoe
03-23-2003, 07:39 PM
i didnt buy the car yet, but i will soon!! now, im gunna get the SS, wat fuel should i use (company name)? wat % nitro?
70mphrs4
03-23-2003, 08:02 PM
Originally posted by tamiyajoe
i didnt buy the car yet, but i will soon!! now, im gunna get the SS, wat fuel should i use (company name)? wat % nitro?
whaen i had my nitro star engine i used byrons 2000 race 20% but i dont know if its reccomnded
tl01boi
03-23-2003, 10:05 PM
i have a super nitro rs4 rtr with a 2 speed tranny new side belt new rear belt extra main belt over sized sinkhead extra piston and sleeve 2 extra shocks 2 extra springs 2 bodies 3 sets of wheels im selling it for 220 or i would like to trade for a nitro onroad or off road (shaft) only rc car because i can convert it into a rally car im looking for a super nitro rally email me at KhMyAzNbOi@yahoo.com or if u have a rtr3 or other onroad/offroad shaft driven nitro cars
tamiyajoe
03-23-2003, 10:46 PM
waould duratrax 20% red alert be ok? b/c i heard it is pretty much the same exact thing as odonnell and i no oddonell is good. how is the hpi power fuel? or the trinnity?
straturbo34
03-23-2003, 11:05 PM
Looking to squeeze all acceleration that i can out of my SS's Need Help.
Roland
dumadiscount1
03-23-2003, 11:07 PM
can anyone tell me how far in or out their low speed needle on their 12rss is compared to the outside of the throttle body screw? i cant find closed and need a decent starting point... any help appreciated!
tamiyajoe
03-24-2003, 12:39 AM
where can i ge the cheepest ss? is it tower? they have it for 270 (or 280 w/ the saleen body.) and y is that? is the ss w/ a saleen body better? why is it 10 buks more?
StrikerDTR
03-24-2003, 01:56 AM
Here is my HPI RS4's; RS4 RTR and 2 Type SS with mods.
StrikerDTR
03-24-2003, 01:56 AM
Pic 2
StrikerDTR
03-24-2003, 02:00 AM
Pic 3
StrikerDTR
03-24-2003, 02:08 AM
Pic 4
StrikerDTR
03-24-2003, 02:11 AM
Pic 5
dumadiscount1
03-24-2003, 03:31 AM
Originally posted by fastharry
Ive been real happy with my SS....it has better on gas steering thn my Tc3 nitro's but isn't as stable........but its still fun...
one thing that bothers me is the car has a tendency to unload the rear tires if you get off the gas in a sweeper..my tc3 don't do that...they come out alittle,but not violent like the SS..
we race on a fast track....the funny part is,this car took me to 9th in the a main at teh HPI challenge in NY...and I never felt that problem as the course was laid out like a tight club course...
I'm running the super chassis,threaded shocks, etc..a basic set-up...6 mm ride hgt(f&r) stad camber settings,green pro linears(bassicaly the same tension as the stock black springs)....
a couple of guys at HPI have noticed that tendency also...
when the car unloads,teh back end comes right around.....and yes,I set tweak etc.....
ever notice this?.................
Hey harry just read one of ur old posts because im having the same problem. On foams its fine but on rubbers it unloads and i spin on the sweepers coming off long straights or coming into corners with lots of speed. Did you ever manage to fix this problem? What kind of spring/shock oil setup are u using and what tires? Any help greatly appreciated =)
tamiyajoe
03-26-2003, 06:06 PM
wats the biggest/fastest engine that is a direct fit into a ss?
josche_rs42
03-26-2003, 07:19 PM
Originally posted by dumadiscount1
Hey harry just read one of ur old posts because im having the same problem. On foams its fine but on rubbers it unloads and i spin on the sweepers coming off long straights or coming into corners with lots of speed. Did you ever manage to fix this problem? What kind of spring/shock oil setup are u using and what tires? Any help greatly appreciated =)
i use to have that problem on my r24-2, when i take my finger of the throttle, rear end swings around. i tried putting a bigger rear wing on and also practiced easing of before the turn and not on the turn. also, when i ease of, i do it a liittle slower. now it seems more stable.
sppedfeen
03-28-2003, 12:04 PM
Just getting into RC. I got a RS4 3 ss and I want to know what is the best pipe to upgrade to? Can anyone help!:confused:
StrikerDTR
03-28-2003, 01:44 PM
THS pipe.
http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXCPX4&P=7
sppedfeen
03-28-2003, 02:11 PM
Thanks, but this pipe is not race legal though, or is it?
Laterilus
03-28-2003, 02:21 PM
Originally posted by sppedfeen
Thanks, but this pipe is not race legal though, or is it?
I would assume it is race legal. Most illegal r/c car hopups will say 'outlaw' or something else to alert buyers that you cannot use it in a ROAR santioned race or other organizations such as IFMAR.
JFawwaz
03-28-2003, 02:46 PM
whats your RS4 3 handling setup?
I want to know:
springs front/rear
shock oil wt front/rear
wheels/tires front/rear
tire foams front/rear
type of surface running on
or if youre running other mods such as carbon graphite shock towers, bearing steering, carbon graphite radio plate, high speed servo etc....
sppedfeen
04-01-2003, 01:44 PM
Laterilus, StrikerDTR thank! I got it on order now!:cool:
dumadiscount1
04-01-2003, 05:29 PM
thanks josch - i think that must be the prob becoz i let right off the gas before the highspeed sweeper.... sometimes trying to brake! hehe thanks for the help i will practice =)
dumadiscount1
04-01-2003, 05:34 PM
Originally posted by JFawwaz
whats your RS4 3 handling setup?
I want to know:
springs front/rear
shock oil wt front/rear
wheels/tires front/rear
tire foams front/rear
type of surface running on
or if youre running other mods such as carbon graphite shock towers, bearing steering, carbon graphite radio plate, high speed servo etc....
springs - stock black/black - thinking of going to green/green
shock oil - 45 wt fr /40 wt rr - thinking of chaning to 50 / 50
foams - 45 shore fr / 40 shore rr
surface is smooth asphalt parking lot that is blown before the race.
overall i find it reasonably good ... the first thing u need to change is the stock oil and tires... then start thinking about ur springs - i cant even figure this one out myself....
dumadiscount1
04-01-2003, 05:55 PM
anyone know if u can fit tamiya 1/10 bodies on rs4s?
JFawwaz
04-02-2003, 05:54 PM
my setup
springs - black front, red rear (like this a lot, rear end rarely swings out, you should try it, dumadiscount1)
Shock oil- 50 front, 40 rear
wheels/tires motorsport 10 spoke chrome with hpi x pattern
stock tire inserts
surface- unswept parking lot
TeeGeeRacer
04-02-2003, 08:44 PM
Im running a Tamiya HKS Altezza (190mm) on my Rs4-3.
fastharry
04-02-2003, 10:13 PM
Originally posted by dumadiscount1
Hey harry just read one of ur old posts because im having the same problem. On foams its fine but on rubbers it unloads and i spin on the sweepers coming off long straights or coming into corners with lots of speed. Did you ever manage to fix this problem? What kind of spring/shock oil setup are u using and what tires? Any help greatly appreciated =)
wow,its been awhile since I've been here,sorry I missed this post...I've been racing electric at Barnstormers in NY,and except for my TC nitro,I haven't beeb paying attention to my HPI stuff
not to sound snobby,but I gave up on ythe SS....i got the twitchy part somewhat toned down..but now the car runs like a racer 2.....just a bad push all teh way around..I was running HPI's nitro pro linear springs....I forget how I did the diffs..I put RB turbo motor in it(rear exhaust)....that pretty much ruined the car...The faster it goes,the worse it handles...except for the HPI challenge,I wont be running the car...there are ALOT of better cars out there(in fact,almost every one is)....HPI makes good fun cars,but thats about it...Hopefully,there new nitro car fits the bill...and doesn't turn out to be a money pit..
dumadiscount1
04-02-2003, 11:09 PM
ok harry yeh i know hpi rs4s are turd mobiles hahahha but im not looking at spend too much more.... just fine tuning it so i can have a little rip around the track and at least finish the race. probabli getting a pro car in a year or so. anyways i think i will just practice throttle control and that should fix half the probs
rcwoodtek
04-03-2003, 01:11 PM
im using this pipe (http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXBMH0&P=7) with an MT12 engine and i like it alot.
mugenseike
04-03-2003, 09:51 PM
how can I make my car go straighter(rs4 rtr 3)etter control or servos work, how about some suspension mod's, i just got it about a week ago and I would appreciate any info you might have relating to this.if you have seen that you're car goes straighter tell me about what's mod's you've done,thank's.
-Dave
mugenseike
04-03-2003, 09:52 PM
why do 1/8 scale car's go straighter?
Sebring
04-05-2003, 03:11 AM
'Cause they're heavier. They're also larger, which will make them handle more like a real machine by default. The smaller it is, the more squirly it will probably end up being, but as the cars get bigger, the more like full scale cars they handle.
Anyway. I finally made up my mind, and chose the SS over a NTC3. Got it with an Airtronics MX-3 and the 23 tooth top end gear for 408.75 from Tower..not bad at all for what I got. The car's all put together, just waiting to get some gas for it now. Anyone know why there seems to be a bit of binding in the drivetrain? I've rebuilt it three or four times now, and it's not grabbing the break, so that's not it. I'm pretty sure the drivetrain just needs to be 'broken in', since I've yet to run the car. Most of my cars are 'tight' at first. Anyway, I know I'm going to love this thing. The radio's awesome, and for 117 dollars with 2 high-torque servos, for a FM computer radio..you simply cannot beat that with a stick! Heh.
tamiyajoe
04-05-2003, 04:59 PM
is there anyway to lighten up the drive train? cuz i know the heavy drive shafts are robbins some power. i know the ntc3 has one, but is there one for an ss?
EX: the street force gp has 2 spd, .75 hp motor and belts, but it does 50mph. the ss has 2spd, 1.0 hp motor, shaft drive, but only 45. explain! lol. this is goin to help my decision in pickin an ss, ntc3, or ld3
Sebring
04-05-2003, 09:36 PM
Lol. It's actually 46.2. :D
Well, there could be a couple things. one, the SS is geared more tword acceleration. The Street Force is geared for top end speed, which is why it takes it longer to reach it's top speed. Using HPI's optional gears, you might get it over 50.
Now, I'm having a major problem with my SS. When I give it throttle, it hesitates to transfer that power to the wheels. It's not the engine, because it's reving just fine. It's in the gears. Also, when going into second gear, the wheels actually loose RPM. They sometimes even stop completely. What's up with it? I have a feeling it's in the 2-speed. What's everyone running, as far as CCW turns? This's my first 2-speed. Heh. I'm really clueless here. :confused:
Rushevaderacer
04-05-2003, 10:09 PM
Sebring... Take out the engine and see if the car rolls freely(sp?) or check if you tightened the wheels too much.
guys im thinking about getting the wolfpack radicals .21 conversion to put in my ss, should I? will it worsen the handling, if I get it im putting the .21 engine that came with my savage.
have any of you tried it?
thanks
Sebring
04-05-2003, 10:29 PM
Argh. Yeah, it's definately on the second gear, in which I am running the 23 tooth. The car will rev just fine now, and shift into second (While I'm holding it), and as soon as it does it will lose RPM and eventually bog itself out. What's wrong with this thing? Heh. It also smells faintly like something is rubbing against something else. It's not the brake, I know that much. I really have no clue.
TeeGeeRacer
04-06-2003, 03:45 PM
Finally got around to driving my RS4-3 pretty hard. I bought her last year and she's had two owner's before she was mine again. She's only been driven twice before she was mine again.
Anyways, if I did my math right, she topped out at 57.3MPH. Not too bad on a rich setting with low traction. The Tamiya Altezza body has an oversized wing and made the car feel pretty good at high speed. I even got air on an uneven part of the lot and it flew like a rally car and landed without a hitch.
My RTR3:
-TTR Evo 12TH side exhaust engine
-THS one piece tuned pipe
-HPI 2-speed
-HPI carbon fiber radio deck
-HPI Super Chassis
-HPI carbon fiber shock towers F/R
-HPI front universals
-HPI Racer2 fuel tank
-GPM aluminum center block
-AE dual element air cleaner
-Tamiya 190mm HKS Altezza body
Future mods:
-either HPI, Tamiya. or Kyosho threaded shocks
-JR XS3 radio
I don't plan on racing so I'm very happy with what I have. I'm not a backyard basher but a front yard drag racer. If you don't plan on doing any organized racing the Rs4-3 is a great car to have.
Ron W
04-10-2003, 05:57 AM
I've just ordered the HPI RS4 3 SS from Tower Hobbies
and would like to purchase a tuned pipe, I have read post
from last year on the Narvosi and the THS racing pipe,
Which pipe would you recommend for parking lot bashing?
This is my second car, I still own the RS4 3 .
Thanks,
Ron W :confused:
TeeGeeRacer
04-10-2003, 11:47 PM
I'm very happy with the THS pipe. Because it's an 'inline' design, you really don't have to worry about the pipe slipping off the silicon coupling from most collisions.
The only problem I've had with mine was my fault to begin with. I stretched the coupling springs and it didn't hold the pipe to header tight enough.
The Novarossi makes a great pipe. It's just not inline, which right now I am just so in love with.
Ron W
04-11-2003, 02:40 AM
TeeGeeRacer,
What is the difference between inline and non inline
designs and where can I purchase the Navorossi
tune pipe if I decide to purchase one?
Thanks,
Ron W
TeeGeeRacer
04-11-2003, 03:31 AM
An inline pipe uses springs to couple the header to the pipe. Most tuned pipes use a silicone coupling with zip ties.
As far as i know, the THS and the Dynamite pipes are the only available inline pipes for cars with our exhaust configuration. I know OFNA made one for the older RS4's. Megatech might have one but I'm really not sure. Not many small-block exhausts are inline.
Do you do your purchases online or at your LHS? I'll always recommend to support your LHS first. As long as they have good distributors you can get almost anything. My LHS also price matches Tower. If you go online, try http://www.acehardwarehobbies.com, they rock when it comes to nitro stuff. Tower is good as well.
Have fun!
supra528
04-12-2003, 07:16 AM
does anyone want a never used sirio .12 outlaw??? the shaft is pre cut to fit in the nitro 3... its NEVER used..... email me at supra528@hotmail.com or pm me
supra528
04-12-2003, 07:20 AM
i am also selling my rolling chassis.....
Grifter
04-13-2003, 12:56 PM
A rolling SS Chassis?
How much are you looking for the chassis and engine?
Grifter
04-13-2003, 02:15 PM
Does the THS Pipe fit the Fantom .15 and O.S CV-R .15?
I would think it does, but I want to make sure.
Thanks!
supra528
04-13-2003, 02:51 PM
well right now i dont know if ill be selling the car and engine together.. email me for more details on it..... supra528@hotmail.com
supra528
04-13-2003, 02:53 PM
oh yeah... u should look at the pics of it a lil back.... its a sirio engine and an almost fully modded chassis
here's my ss. i've had it for a while, i've just never posted it. it is bone stock:p http://pic1.picturetrail.com/VOL133/1044827/1955856/23369711.jpg
http://pic1.picturetrail.com/VOL133/1044827/1955856/23369700.jpg
http://pic1.picturetrail.com/VOL133/1044827/1955856/23369692.jpg
http://pic1.picturetrail.com/VOL133/1044827/1955856/23369682.jpg
more...
http://pic1.picturetrail.com/VOL133/1044827/1955856/23372617.jpg
http://pic1.picturetrail.com/VOL133/1044827/1955856/23372631.jpg
last one...
http://pic1.picturetrail.com/VOL133/1044827/1955856/23373085.jpg
meh one more...
http://pic1.picturetrail.com/VOL133/1044827/1955856/23373455.jpg
the green car is my tc3
Rushevaderacer
04-13-2003, 08:39 PM
Nice car. :eek:
Originally posted by Rushevaderacer
Nice car. :eek:
thanks:p
Grifter
04-13-2003, 10:00 PM
shoe: Nice car. How do you like it?
Do you have any thoughts on some Hop ups?
i love the car. as for hop ups the only thing i have is a different air filter. my disk break is wearing out so ill have to buy a new one soon. the ss is very fast out of the box, so i havn't upgraded the pipe yet. a new pipe will be my next hopup. if youre a parking lot basher like me, the ss is a very good car.
TeeGeeRacer
04-14-2003, 03:36 AM
Originally posted by Grifter
A rolling SS Chassis?
How much are you looking for the chassis and engine?
You're right it will. As long as it's a small block it'll work. I'm looking into getting a Fantom engine one of these days maybe. On paper the power seems unbelieveable for a small block motor.
Nice car Shoe! I had the RSX body in opal/flourescent red on my Taiya TG10R. I noticed the BMW rim, but what car would that rim be attached to?
supra528
04-14-2003, 07:24 AM
i still have a sirio special for the nitro 3 and my rolling chassis.... still up for sale.... email me if ur interested
Ron W
04-14-2003, 11:27 AM
I've just ordered the HPI RS4 3 SS, which is due in
this week. This car will more than likely never see a
race track but what parts do you feel are recommended
to help increase the cars performance? ie. clutch, brake
etc.
Thanks,
Ron W:confused:
Originally posted by TeeGeeRacer
Nice car Shoe! I had the RSX body in opal/flourescent red on my Taiya TG10R. I noticed the BMW rim, but what car would that rim be attached to?
its a 330i
oN_dUbZ
04-15-2003, 09:46 PM
hey guys...I have a HPI Nitro RS4-3 RTR with a Lamborghini body. It's been painted red(sorry). I also have the 2-Speed Transmission, 2 Fuel Filters, and a Novarossi Air Filter. ALso some cleaners, fuel, and some glues and etc. It also has the HPI Pro Glow Starter. Basicallly I have everything that you would need to run the car. I put about a 1 quart of fuel through the engine. I need to sell my RC becuase I need the cash to pay off some bills. It's a great car and i'm sorry to see it go, but I have to. If anyone would like to buy it please post.
Also here is my other contact info:
E-Mail : S.madhav@attbi.com
AIM : STiBoy05
shawnhpi
04-16-2003, 12:19 PM
Nice car shoe..
a while back i seen some pictures of the rs4 3 with the front almn gear box.. Any one know where thoes pictures are?
Thanks
http://www.angelfire.com/ny5/rs43ssnitrocar/
Check out my site for my car (pics) and please sign the book...
Shawn..1
supra528
04-16-2003, 03:50 PM
please guys.... i really need to sell my car.... its the rolling chassis and the sirio.... it MUST go.... please email me for details..... thnx... supra528@hotmail.com
RCRACER2471
04-16-2003, 08:54 PM
Originally posted by Ron W
I've just ordered the HPI RS4 3 SS, which is due in
this week. This car will more than likely never see a
race track but what parts do you feel are recommended
to help increase the cars performance? ie. clutch, brake
etc.
Thanks,
Ron W:confused:
For a brake id get the fiber brake disk. Also a better pipe. Not the stock one since it restricts air flow. This be a good one....
http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXCPX4&P=7
There can be other upgrades that you can get but im not sure exactly what your looking for.
liquidforrest
04-16-2003, 09:05 PM
Hey guys.. Im starting a website dedicated to the RS4 Nitro 3's
Should have the forums working tonight or tomorrow. WILL be finished soon.. thanks for looking
http://www.pyropost.com/rs4rtr3/
any help/info would be great
oN_dUbZ
04-16-2003, 10:51 PM
also my car must go too. My car isnt all that great but I really need to sell it.
Dinternetman
04-17-2003, 02:05 AM
good job for the hpi ss winning the BRCA national
check it out at the hpi website
fastharry
04-17-2003, 10:15 PM
yeah..it won..complete with hundreds of dollars of options...some things never change...
TeeGeeRacer
04-17-2003, 11:36 PM
I could really care less if there were several hundreds dollars worth of hop ups on Robin Hammet's RS4-3. The way how some people post around here talking about a fully hopped up HPI is still no where near as competitive as a box-stock pillow ball/rear exhaust/centax clutch nitro sedan, it's pretty gawdang refreshing to see something like this. Granted this was just a single race that wasn't even a championship, you do have to admit the results were impressive.
I've put well over $500 into my RTR3 and my car will never be in a competitive, organized race. I get satisfaction seeing the performance differential that each hop-up does. I'm still not done spending money on it. If I wanted a race car I'd be driving an MTX-3 right now.
Kudos HPI and Hot Bodies!
fastharry
04-17-2003, 11:55 PM
it is impressive...btw,I have as much in mine as you do in yours(if not more)..plus a RB RE turbo....;)
supra528
04-18-2003, 10:37 AM
i still got a sirio motor perfect for the nitro 3.... and an ae header... email me if ur interested.... supra528@hotmail.com
tl_ke_racer
04-18-2003, 09:10 PM
havent been here in a while, ihave already converted my rtr 3 toa rally which works good now im going to convert it to a truck, by putting some snr rims on and some kidn of offroad tread, and of course a hpi truck body, i already have everythign else for this thing the supsension etc. I will let u guys know if i go through with it.
shawnhpi
04-19-2003, 01:43 AM
where in the world has kronikracer been..
any one know.. Let me know..
Shawn..1
http://www.angelfire.com/ny5/rs43ssnitrocar
http://www.angelfire.com/ny5/rs43ssnitrocar
http://www.angelfire.com/ny5/rs43ssnitrocar
liquidforrest
04-22-2003, 01:41 AM
has anyone had a problem with you engine over heating? seems like thats whats wrong with mine.. everytime i run it it stops like its overheated and this is with the body off. I have it pretty rich and have the main needle out 3 1/2 turns. Any info?
liquidforrest
04-22-2003, 01:43 AM
Originally posted by TeeGeeRacer
I could really care less if there were several hundreds dollars worth of hop ups on Robin Hammet's RS4-3. The way how some people post around here talking about a fully hopped up HPI is still no where near as competitive as a box-stock pillow ball/rear exhaust/centax clutch nitro sedan, it's pretty gawdang refreshing to see something like this. Granted this was just a single race that wasn't even a championship, you do have to admit the results were impressive.
I've put well over $500 into my RTR3 and my car will never be in a competitive, organized race. I get satisfaction seeing the performance differential that each hop-up does. I'm still not done spending money on it. If I wanted a race car I'd be driving an MTX-3 right now.
Kudos HPI and Hot Bodies!
I feel the same way Tee. Im glad they won. no matter how much money is tied up in it. Same goes for Hara on the electric side to.. people always say "look at all the hop ups its got" while racing againts to close to stock cars. SO WHAT he won. fair and square.
johnybravo129
04-23-2003, 01:07 PM
Have any of you used or ever heared of anyone using the old stlye Tmaxx header on their rs4 3? I needed to replace the crappy stock one and the LHS was outta the HPI one so I just got a blue tmaxx one. It seems to be a little shorter than the other one, but its working with my stock pipe. Im just hoping that once I get my new pipe in the mail it isn't too short....
TeeGeeRacer
04-23-2003, 10:25 PM
Originally posted by liquidforrest
has anyone had a problem with you engine over heating? seems like thats whats wrong with mine.. everytime i run it it stops like its overheated and this is with the body off. I have it pretty rich and have the main needle out 3 1/2 turns. Any info?
Thanks for the support liquidforrest. :D
Anyways, hmmm. 3.5 turns out. And, you say it stops like it overheated? I really don't know what to say unless I can hear the car run. Try running the car at 2.5 turns out. There can be a number of things that can be giving you problems.
-What's the condition of your glow plug? Still using the original glow plug?
-What's the brand/nitro content/age/condition of the fuel your using? Is it old and are you keeping it in a cool, dry place?
-Have you taken the engine apart? There may be an air leak.
Your best bet would be to go to your local LHS and see if they're willing to get your car in tune.
TeeGeeRacer
04-23-2003, 10:35 PM
Originally posted by liquidforrest
I feel the same way Tee. Im glad they won. no matter how much money is tied up in it. Same goes for Hara on the electric side to.. people always say "look at all the hop ups its got" while racing againts to close to stock cars. SO WHAT he won. fair and square.
OOPS! WRONG QUOTE!
What pipe are you getting as a replacement? If it's an aftermarket pipe, you'll probably be able to 'swing' the front hanger a bit farther back to get the pipe closer to the header.
There really should be any problem though running the T-Maxx header. Running a larger gap between the pipe and header will tune the powerband of your engine a little different but that shouldn't matter. I've also found in the past though that running a larger gap between the pipe and header makes it a little easier for one or the other to come loose from the silicon coupling.
liquidforrest
04-24-2003, 03:33 AM
Originally posted by TeeGeeRacer
Thanks for the support liquidforrest. :D
Anyways, hmmm. 3.5 turns out. And, you say it stops like it overheated? I really don't know what to say unless I can hear the car run. Try running the car at 2.5 turns out. There can be a number of things that can be giving you problems.
-What's the condition of your glow plug? Still using the original glow plug?
-What's the brand/nitro content/age/condition of the fuel your using? Is it old and are you keeping it in a cool, dry place?
-Have you taken the engine apart? There may be an air leak.
Your best bet would be to go to your local LHS and see if they're willing to get your car in tune.
Glow plug seems OK, Its the original. what GLOW plug do u recomend? A cooler one? what IS the OG plug anyways? 20% Traxxas fuel. and i am keepin it cool as cool as Mn can be at the time of the year :D . ANd i haven't taken apart the engine yet
ielunatik
04-24-2003, 04:08 AM
ok today when i was driving my rs4-3 the screw that goes into the carb. that holds the accelerator thing on fell out and its lost !!! so does anyone know wut size the screw is or where i can get a replacment of the screw at ?
thank you
daniel
liquidforrest
04-24-2003, 04:27 AM
In your manual it has and exploded view of all your engine parts (also listed on HPI's site) and gives you the part number. Go to towerhobbies type in the part number and it will tell you what size/name it its. then go to you're Local HObby shop and buy it!
Rushevaderacer
04-24-2003, 02:49 PM
Has anyone tried GPM steel universals?
are they any good?
thanks
Saboteur
04-24-2003, 04:16 PM
You HPI fans probably have seen it. Check it out :cool:
http://www.hpiracing.com/coolstuff/coolstuff.htm#nitro3brcawin
Thanx to that dude, no one can say the rtr 3 or type 3 ss cant take on the competition. :)
TeeGeeRacer
04-24-2003, 11:43 PM
Man Liquidforrest, I really can't be any help cause I don't know what could be giving you problems without me being able to hear and run the car. All I can say is to try a new glow plug (I prefer OS #8) and set your high end different until you get the results you want. I've also had very bad luck with Traxxas fuel. When I had to run it, my car just never ran reliably.
Ielunatik, Here's a parts list for the 15fe:
http://www.hpiracing.com/graphics/instr/engines/1615p2.jpg
you're looking for part #1675 (adjust screw set w/spring)
Nope, never tried the GPM universals. I'm running the HPI universals. But I see it as any well built universal is always better than the stock dogbones! I was considering the Integy universals or MIP Shiny CVD's should my HPI's ever go bad.
I've always felt that with the right effort and with the right driver the RS4-3 always had the potential to do well in any race. Heck, at my locl track HPI's win most of the time anyway since it's more of a tight technical track for electric TC's. All the Serpents, Mugens, and what not don't last the length of the race since they break from being just too dang fast. That's changing now since the nitro racers are outnumbering the electric guys.
liquidforrest
04-25-2003, 01:59 AM
Thanks TEE, I ran it today with out problems, well except me running full throtle into a curb and busting the Front shock tower and Body posts:D I rich'n it out a 1/4 and it worked for about 1 1/2 tanks.. normally only lasted 1/2 b4 it got too hot. It didn't reach the top speed as it did. but it will now last me thru a race(sunday:eek: )Need to get some alum. parts QUICK!
johnybravo129
04-25-2003, 02:04 AM
What temp do you all run at? I run at like 220 like ive been told but sometimes when the engine sneaks up to like 240-250ish, the car seems optimal and it holds steady there. It's a CV-X if your wondering..
TeeGeeRacer
04-25-2003, 03:09 AM
Good to hear you got reliable run! Albeit a painful one!:eek: You still might want to look into replacing your glow plug. Like we call it at the Toyota dealership I work at, 'Preventive Maintenance'.
Just this past saturday night my car ran top speed into a light post at the local Costco parking lot. Ouch! Surprisingly with alot less damage than I expected.
I really don't like having aluminum parts on my car, except for my main chassis plate of course. I do have the GPM aluminum center gear mount but thats because I like having aluminum in high stress areas that aren't 'high risk' ;) I'd rather have a plastic part break than an alum part (that costs 7x as much), bend. It would be different for racing though. Better to have a part give and still work then give and completely fail.
I already have all my replacement parts. Now it's just a matter of replacing! Have FUN!
Saboteur
04-25-2003, 03:43 PM
Costco parking lot? DUDE where are you? I'm in portchester,ny and have a costco not far from here. Its within walking distance. :) BTW that lot is SOOOO perfect for nitro onroad! :D :cool:
TeeGeeRacer
04-26-2003, 01:03 AM
I'm waaaay over here on the opposite coast in the San Francisco Bay Area. It is perfect except for the light posts that want to jump in your car's way!:D
Saboteur
04-26-2003, 01:05 AM
Darn. :( Lookin for other ppl in my area I can hang or bash with. Atleast I got a Costco here with a superb parking lot (one of the smoothest I've seen) and local parks to check out. :)
TeeGeeRacer
04-26-2003, 01:18 AM
I'm not sure how your LHS is but mine is great. It's pretty much a hang out for alot of guys who like R/C. There were times when after (and sometimes during!) business hours we'd get a 24 pack of MGD and order a pizza or get friend chicken and just kick it, sometimes till 12 midnight! But I don't bash with them. Most of them are all serious racers now and talk crap about HPI cars hehe.
I bash with my co-workers. When my boss isn't in on the weekends we bring in our cars and trucks and run them during lunch or at the beginning/end of the day.
Saboteur
04-26-2003, 11:49 AM
Thats awesome. I know of a great LHS in brooklyn but it wasnt really close to me. They are bettert han the one in manhatten though. My LHS here in portchester is rather small and he's the main lhs for the town. I'll check white plains or other LHS in connecticut. :)
maniac_frank
04-26-2003, 10:14 PM
Here is a pic of my RS4-3!!!http://groups.msn.com/_Secure/0QgDqAoQRLRqPv6EHDn4ETnXbkdx58YhW*izQLJ6ZN9jR0PABO OG7BPANDzaYK7zM9x8KEyBQdGTGAmSMHYRH2d9UEFmKhDdpA9V T*nFv!jI/DCP01554.JPG?dc=4675419456689909377
jay272
04-27-2003, 03:22 AM
Hey people. I just ran my nitro ss on the track today, and while it is pretty quick, the handling (box-stock) sucked in the worst way. I set the car up as recommended, and it has the stock tires/inserts also. I raced electric (x-ray evo 2) all winter, and I did pretty well, but with this car, I can't get the damn thing to feel hooked up at all. I thought it was me so I let one of the experienced nitro guys drive.......same result. Spin-out after spin-out. Everybody at the track who had the same car had the same type of problems. So......I put the same crappy tires on my buddies Nitro TC3 (ready-to-run) and I drove it just fine. Have you guys had the same problem? Im thinking about ebaying it while it's still new-ish. If anybody wants one, it's item number 3128927364. check it out.
fastharry
04-27-2003, 08:30 AM
I tried to get the SS to handle....as well as my Racer2's(for 6 years)..I own 'em all....If you read this WHOLE thread,and if you could read the old HPI forum,you'd see how I stuck with teh hpis...that is,till I bought,AND RACED a tc3....that was the end for me.....(except for the HPI challenge)....
the car is what it is(despite HPI's crowing about a win in Britain)..
its durable,teh bodys are easy to mount and look great,hop up fun is there,customer support is fine....everything a newcomer needs to have fun..as long as he's not racing...
if you want to race,even on a club level,and if there is and variation in the cars you'll be running with(and against)(tc3's,mugen's.etc),either make teh SS your fun in the street car,or sell it and get another brand...of course,you could also wait for the HPI pro car to come out...
jay272
04-27-2003, 03:08 PM
Nah......I'm done with HPI. I bought the Pro 3, and spent about $250-$300 on hop-ups and got my ass handed to me every weekend at the track. I thought that electric racing just wasn't my thing. For kicks, I got an x-ray off ebay (New, and unbuilt) maybe 2 1/2 months ago and I went from C-main to A-main in 2 weeks and I won my first A-main ever 1 week ago. I can't explain why because I drove exactly the same with the xray as I did with the pro3. The X just handled so damn well......box stock with factory recommended set-up that the car actually went where i wanted it to. A better handling car can make a better driver i guess.
I bought the Nitro 3 when the ss kit frst came out last year and I didn't run it (on a track w/other nitros) until yesterday. While I love the ss motor and how easy it is to maintain the car, I don't like the handling. I refuse to make the same mistake and spend a lot of money on a car to make it handle like should from the box.
Take a look at some of these "pro" drivers in the magazines. Associated and losi drivers make slight mods to their cars. The guy who won with the Xray T1R (the $230 one) won a championship in europe box stock. Take a lot at anything that sponsored HPI drivers use and its hard to find a "stock" item on the damn car. Half of that stuff isn't even in the U.S.
I'm glad HPI came out and said the nitro 3 isn't a race car. But I wish they put that in their magazine ads before I bought mine. I race on a track and not in an alley, and I'm far from a basher. In my opinion, HPI can keep the basher demographic. The only thing that they can sell me from now on........Is a body!
fastharry
04-27-2003, 03:17 PM
Originally posted by jay272
Nah......I'm done with HPI. I bought the Pro 3, and spent about $250-$300 on hop-ups and got my ass handed to me every weekend at the track. I thought that electric racing just wasn't my thing. For kicks, I got an x-ray off ebay (New, and unbuilt) maybe 2 1/2 months ago and I went from C-main to A-main in 2 weeks and I won my first A-main ever 1 week ago. I can't explain why because I drove exactly the same with the xray as I did with the pro3. The X just handled so damn well......box stock with factory recommended set-up that the car actually went where i wanted it to. A better handling car can make a better driver i guess.
I bought the Nitro 3 when the ss kit frst came out last year and I didn't run it (on a track w/other nitros) until yesterday. While I love the ss motor and how easy it is to maintain the car, I don't like the handling. I refuse to make the same mistake and spend a lot of money on a car to make it handle like should from the box.
Take a look at some of these "pro" drivers in the magazines. Associated and losi drivers make slight mods to their cars. The guy who won with the Xray T1R (the $230 one) won a championship in europe box stock. Take a lot at anything that sponsored HPI drivers use and its hard to find a "stock" item on the damn car. Half of that stuff isn't even in the U.S.
I'm glad HPI came out and said the nitro 3 isn't a race car. But I wish they put that in their magazine ads before I bought mine. I race on a track and not in an alley, and I'm far from a basher. In my opinion, HPI can keep the basher demographic. The only thing that they can sell me from now on........Is a body!
I have more bad news for you....once you start racing,you wonm't be using a HPI body either...the great detail they have ruins the strenght.....try a protoform body.....better handling,and stronger...
jay272
04-27-2003, 03:32 PM
I agree 100% harry, but It's easy to use those HPI body dimples holes for reference when making holes for the Xray body mount posts.
jay272
04-27-2003, 03:34 PM
I hate putting holes in the body in a "non perferct" manner!
TeeGeeRacer
04-27-2003, 03:38 PM
Originally posted by jay272
Nah......I'm done with HPI. I bought the Pro 3, and spent about $250-$300 on hop-ups and got my ass handed to me every weekend at the track. I thought that electric racing just wasn't my thing. For kicks, I got an x-ray off ebay (New, and unbuilt) maybe 2 1/2 months ago and I went from C-main to A-main in 2 weeks and I won my first A-main ever 1 week ago. I can't explain why because I drove exactly the same with the xray as I did with the pro3. The X just handled so damn well......box stock with factory recommended set-up that the car actually went where i wanted it to. A better handling car can make a better driver i guess.
I bought the Nitro 3 when the ss kit frst came out last year and I didn't run it (on a track w/other nitros) until yesterday. While I love the ss motor and how easy it is to maintain the car, I don't like the handling. I refuse to make the same mistake and spend a lot of money on a car to make it handle like should from the box.
Take a look at some of these "pro" drivers in the magazines. Associated and losi drivers make slight mods to their cars. The guy who won with the Xray T1R (the $230 one) won a championship in europe box stock. Take a lot at anything that sponsored HPI drivers use and its hard to find a "stock" item on the damn car. Half of that stuff isn't even in the U.S.
I'm glad HPI came out and said the nitro 3 isn't a race car. But I wish they put that in their magazine ads before I bought mine. I race on a track and not in an alley, and I'm far from a basher. In my opinion, HPI can keep the basher demographic. The only thing that they can sell me from now on........Is a body!
Question Jay, what made you get the SS over all the other nitro TC's out there?
TeeGeeRacer
04-27-2003, 03:44 PM
Maniac_Frank, I copied and pasted the url you provided for the image of your car but I still can't view it.
jay272
04-27-2003, 09:10 PM
honestly Tee Gee......It looked cool when my friend showed me his, and I like that HPI's bodies perfectly match the body mounts on HPI's cars. As dumb as it sounds I spent more on bodies than anything else, and If the body isn't mounted correctly, the wheels rub and it tracks funny at high speeds. Anyway, I sold the car already for $190 on ebay. So........what to get next?
smoothxxxs
04-27-2003, 09:36 PM
I have a Nitro Star .15 FE motor with a pull start. I find that it is fairly difficult to pull the cord even when the engine is out of the car. But if i take out the glow plug everything is a lot easier. Is it the tightness of the plug that is making this difficult? Any help would be appreciated fellas. Thanks in advance.
sppedfeen
04-28-2003, 12:28 PM
Does anyone know if the Hot Bodies Purple Alum. CVD's 72003/72004 work just as good as the MIP 80803/80804 for the RS4 3 SS kit?
Downforce
04-28-2003, 05:02 PM
What are you guys doing to the stock 15 for more power? Besides replacing it. I need to know for the challenge races. Thanks
johnybravo129
04-28-2003, 05:09 PM
For the HPI Challenge? If your planning on racing in the stock class, you can't "do" anything to it. I was reading the rules last night. But, the Team Associated pipe for rc10gt's is a must if you have the stock pipe still. Also, get the HPI tuned header or the old Traxxas Tmaxx type, both work well.
supra528
04-28-2003, 08:56 PM
Selling is only permitted in the Buy/Sell/Trade Forums.
TeeGeeRacer
04-28-2003, 11:11 PM
Originally posted by smoothxxxs
I have a Nitro Star .15 FE motor with a pull start. I find that it is fairly difficult to pull the cord even when the engine is out of the car. But if i take out the glow plug everything is a lot easier. Is it the tightness of the plug that is making this difficult? Any help would be appreciated fellas. Thanks in advance.
You didn't realize it but you answered your own question. If it's hard to pull your pull start before you take off the glow plug, that means your 15fe still has alot of compression. Everyone should have your problem! Give your car a gallon or two then it'll really start to loosen up, but that's a bad thing.
Jay, yah the HPI bodies fitting like gloves on HPI cars is sweet. Good luck with your new car, whatever it might turn out to be. Me personally, I'd get either a MTX-3 or a NTC3. Oooo I drool at the thought of a NTC3 with a carbon fiber radio tray and Hardcore titanium chassis loaded up with K-factory goodies.
Im sure the Hot Bodies CVD's work just as well as the MIP CVD's. Honestly I didn't know HB made CVD's. But MIP offers their CVD's 3 ways. the regular black CVD's. The shiny's which are extra durable, and the aluminums which are super lightweight.
I've only been able to race in one HPI Challenge. The one they had at Castle Hobbies a few years back. I remember being all mad and yelling cause I was told I couldn't register. I also remember sky was the limit in Nitro Open, but you really couldn't do anything for Box Stock. (They wouldn't even let me change my throttle linkage or fuel tubing!) But if you really want to be surprised with your 15fe, put the slide carb on it.
TeeGeeRacer
04-29-2003, 02:11 AM
I'm just curious, what mods do you guys have on your RS4-3's? I know I could go back and check but I have dial up and this topic is over 50 pages long! So can we do something like a roll call here, and also state what hop-up impressed you the most. Here, I'll start...
Viper RTR3:
Engine: Thunder Tiger Evo 12
Pipe/header:THS one piece inline
Body:Tamiya HKS Altezza
Tires/wheels:stock
Other mods: HPI super chassis, HPI carbon upper deck, HPI F/R shock towers, GPM alum. center block, HPI 2-speed, HPI front universals, Associated 2-element air filter, HPI heavy duty outdrives, HPI Racer2 fuel tank, Orion NiMH reciever pack
Future mods: titanium turnbuckles, titanium hinge pins, HPI threaded shocks, JR MSX3
I was really impressed with the carbon upper deck. It made the chassis alot more rigid. But the engine is one of the best side exhausts I've ever come across.
there, anyone else?
liquidforrest
04-30-2003, 01:01 AM
Camaro SS RTR3:
Engine: .15FE, FOR NOW!
Pipe/header:Stock Pipe, HPI's Black Header
Body:HPI's 300m
Tires/wheels:Proline V-Rage,stock, Plaid Foams/white dish
Other mods: Hpi's Turnbuckles, yellow springs
I did notice a difference with the header, After getting blown away on the straight last sunday at the track. Im buying a new engine shortly. Maybe a .12r ss or a MT-12?
Danny Chi
04-30-2003, 11:04 PM
does anyone have like two dogbones that they dont need?
heres mine
acura rsx type ss with homemade airflter (took only like 5 mins to make mod. works great)
stock engine
paris racing rippled, tuned pipe
acura nsx, and rsx bodies
stock tires wheels.
other mods. HB carbon upper deck, fron towers rear towers, alumin. front arms, yellow springs, aluminum shocks.
future mods- nothing, I think Im going to sell this on ebay if I get those dogbones
Danny Chi
05-01-2003, 12:00 AM
how do do you shrink a picture so it can be attached (the most I can get it up to is 82.4 kb)
liquidforrest
05-01-2003, 12:57 AM
the dog bones are like 5 bux, and to shrink a pic u need a photoediting software IE photoshop, paintshop pro ETC
smoothxxxs
05-01-2003, 11:24 AM
Is the TTR Evo 12TH a direct bolt in to the RS43? RTR Kit. I am thinking about a tuned pipe and am wondering what sort of modifications i will need to make to the car for it to be mounted. I will be installing it onto my HPI .15 FE engine. Thanks guys.
johnybravo129
05-01-2003, 03:29 PM
I just bought the Hot Bodies Upper Deck from someone second hand, but they didn't give me the screws for it. I thought all mine would work until I saw the new aluminum posts that came with it and the servo mounts. So I got past mounting it with the posts, but now I'm trying to figure out the servo mounts and the battery pack thing. Before the screws went through the throttle servo lip into plastic, now they go through the servo lip, through the upper deck, and into nothing. Do I just put a machine screw through instead with a nut on it? Also, how do you mount the battery and what's the point of the little piece with the whole in it? I mean I see that you zip tie the pack to it, but why's it removable? And for mounting it do you just do the same thing as the throttle servo and put a nut on the end?? Thanks in advance!!
liquidforrest
05-01-2003, 04:38 PM
johny- u could just use servo tape instead of scewing in down
johnybravo129
05-01-2003, 05:01 PM
Color me retarded... what's servo tape? I mean, there really is nothing to "tape" the throttle servo to with the upper deck. It like hangs from the deck and doesn't touch the chassis.
rico750sxi
05-01-2003, 07:05 PM
Just put Fantom's '03 FR15 with a slide carb in my car, wow what a difference but it running on the hot side. It reached 304 degrees today(on my MIP temp gauge). I have a 2.5" hole in the windshield, the passenger window is cut out and a 1.5" hole in the rear window. Anyone else seeing this with their fantoms? Also, I'm using the Camaro SS body. I wonder if a less aerodynamic body would maybe let more air in through the holes because of it's larger profile. Any thoughts?
liquidforrest
05-01-2003, 10:36 PM
Originally posted by johnybravo129
Color me retarded... what's servo tape? I mean, there really is nothing to "tape" the throttle servo to with the upper deck. It like hangs from the deck and doesn't touch the chassis.
Johny my fault.. i thought it was the receiver. u need to screw the throttle down.. so it doesnt' move. i would suggest trying to find some scews or contact hot bodies? servo tape is double sided sticky tape that holds down radio gear IE reciever, ESC for electric cars etc
liquidforrest
05-01-2003, 10:38 PM
Originally posted by rico750sxi
Just put Fantom's '03 FR15 with a slide carb in my car, wow what a difference but it running on the hot side. It reached 304 degrees today(on my MIP temp gauge). I have a 2.5" hole in the windshield, the passenger window is cut out and a 1.5" hole in the rear window. Anyone else seeing this with their fantoms? Also, I'm using the Camaro SS body. I wonder if a less aerodynamic body would maybe let more air in through the holes because of it's larger profile. Any thoughts?
is this a BRAN new engine? if so. it might not be fully broken in yet. give it sometime if so. and i run the camaro body also and it works fine. if you not racing. cut more out. it should move the air just fine
JeffRS4_3ss
05-02-2003, 12:19 AM
Hi :)
I know you guys must be asked this alot but i cant get my 2-speed shifting... I was wondering what spring you guys use and how many turns in to get my to speed to work... and if it helps im still running the stock engine.
thanks in advance :)
liquidforrest
05-02-2003, 01:23 AM
i believe it is 2 turns out
TeeGeeRacer
05-02-2003, 02:38 AM
Originally posted by smoothxxxs
Is the TTR Evo 12TH a direct bolt in to the RS43? RTR Kit. I am thinking about a tuned pipe and am wondering what sort of modifications i will need to make to the car for it to be mounted. I will be installing it onto my HPI .15 FE engine. Thanks guys.
Yes, the TTR Evo12 is a direct bolt in to the RS4-3. Any small block engine is although you do need separate engine mounts. As far as installing a tuned pipe into your car, the header is held onto the engine while the tip of the pipe is held to the chassis of the car with some sort of standoff (normally a thick wire.) It's really not that hard to install. Look how the stock pipe is installed in your car and it will give you a good idea how it should mount up.
JeffRS4_3ss, when I have problems with my 2-speed shifting, I'll first check to make sure all the parts that should be working properly are working properly. Then I'll tighten down the adjustment spring and back it off just one turn. From there, I'll back out the adjustment screw maybe 1/4 turn at a time until I get the shift to where I want it.
I've seen people automatically assume that the adj. screw is too tight and continually back it off until it falls out. The problem is the car will start out already in 2nd gear, but the driver is thinking it's stuck in 1st.
Interestingly, when i had my old Rs4-2, I kept the stock engine but the 2-speed needed the firmer spring. (Now that i think of it, doesn't the 15fe require the firmer spring?)
Rico750, wow 305 deg on your MIP temp gauge? that's high considering the MIP reads the current temp and not the highest reached temp. What is the nitro % of your fuel?
rico750sxi
05-02-2003, 09:32 AM
TeeGeeRacer:
I'm using Traxxas Top Fuel 20% nitro. And I was keeping a good eye on the temp gauge. I ran around slow for a while after that and the temp. dropped quite a bit. I know that's really high and I'm not going to run it like that. How can I drop it some, I am running quite rich now. Just looking for ideas, I have some HPI power fuel(20%) should I try switching fuel brands? Any other ideas?
Thanks
johnybravo129
05-02-2003, 08:55 PM
Ok I just got some new pinions for my 2 speed. And for the life of me I can't get them to work. I screwed a new 1st gear on and kept the old 2nd gear. I got the mesh and I spun it with my fingers and it seemed to be fine. Then I went to drive it and it was ok at low speeds but the if i gave it a little more throttle it would mess up. It looks like its letting go er something. I tried like a buncha different things and I just stopped because I was about ready to whip my car into the wall. Have any of you added new pinions? I heared they should work just fine. The only thing I can think of is a combination of two things: 1.) My engine isnt mounted solid enough and when I give it a shot it jolts away from the spur, and 2.) The spur appears to be worn a little from the stock gear and since the stock one was a different number of teeth, the new one wont quite fit in the rut the old one wore. Please help me, I'm really frustrated. I was told I didn't need new spurs so that shouldn't be the problem. Thanks in advance for any help.
rico750sxi
05-02-2003, 09:38 PM
I have changed pinions with no problems. Is you engine angled in a way that the first gear is meshing but second isn't?
jokers10
05-04-2003, 03:31 PM
Well it is finally getting warm here again, and I want to break out my RS4 3 SS, but I ran into some problems. When I put it together I guess I didn't use enough loc tite, and my engine mount screws came loose and stripped out. Also I upgraded to a THS Racing pipe, and the screws keep falling out after about a tank. Does anyone know of a screw set that I can upgrade to, and some nuts to solve my exhaust problem? Thanks
liquidforrest
05-05-2003, 02:12 AM
Just blue loctite joker
KronicRacer
05-05-2003, 02:51 PM
johnybravo129, jokers10 you guys should check out this site they have and entire screw set for the nitro 3 and then sum
http://www.benderstore.com/
rico750sxi
i would not trust a mip temp gauge. go for a venom gauge that way you know what the high heat spike is that or a temp gun..... but the time you bring the car back to you with the mip. it cools down a bit so its not that great..... that and ive also seen that its not that accurate (the one i have atleast). get a second reading/opinion.
rico750sxi
05-05-2003, 07:54 PM
Kronic:
Thanks for the info on the temp gauge, I'll try the venom gauge. I hope the MIP is reads wrong on the high side! Today I ran my car without the body on and it never got over 215. Put the body on and it got up to 280. I'm thinking I need more cooling holes but I thought the body was cut out pretty well. Time to make them bigger, I guess my body is becoming a basher body.I may get the Saleen body or the new Elise body where the heat sink sticks right out into the air. Can anyone recommend a good tire. The x patterns wear to quickly(d compound) and the M compound radials wear great but don't stick as well. Anyone know of a better tire?
TeeGeeRacer
05-05-2003, 10:45 PM
Man this sucks. My car is down and out right now since I messed up my THS header. Man you can't get a replacement header by itself. Time for a new exhaust, either another THS or some other header/pipe combo. But still, man this sucks.
I think I'll get a new body also. I was looking into the Saleen but is the heatsink sticks out of the body on the Elise I just might have to look into that too.
rico750sxi
05-05-2003, 11:05 PM
TeeGee:
Want to go halves on the ths set, I dented my pipe and don't want to buy the set either. Sucks that they don't sell something other than the set.
TeeGeeRacer
05-05-2003, 11:23 PM
I'm thinking about getting an HPI header and some kinda RPM-biased pipe. As nice as the THS is, I don't think I want to go thru this problem again.
Still looking for a body? I normally try to stick with HPI since those fit the best on an HPI car. I did a search at Tower Hobbies though and now I think I want the Hot Bodies F50. I do like Kyosho's NSX but I am not spending $37 for an unpainted body.
rico750sxi
05-06-2003, 12:36 AM
I wanted kyosho's C5r vette but I thought the price was too much also. I'm either getting the Trans Am (and cutting both side windows plus 2.5 inch holes front and back) or the Elise. Let me know if you find any pipes that go together with springs so I still use my ths header. Otherwise I may get a T-maxx header and go with a differnt pipe. I have the HPI header and I tried that with the CVEC dual outlet when I had the stock engine. The only thing I didn't like was the CVEC leaked a lot where you screw it together. I may get some gasket sealer and seal it up and run that again.
TeeGeeRacer
05-06-2003, 01:37 AM
The Dynamite T-Maxx exhaust is an inline exhaust also, but again, I don't think you can get the header/pipe separate from each other. I'm not really sure but the Megatech T-Maxx exhaust might be an inline design as well.
KronicRacer
05-06-2003, 11:47 AM
Originally posted by rico750sxi
I wanted kyosho's C5r vette but I thought the price was too much also. I'm either getting the Trans Am (and cutting both side windows plus 2.5 inch holes front and back) or the Elise. Let me know if you find any pipes that go together with springs so I still use my ths header. Otherwise I may get a T-maxx header and go with a differnt pipe. I have the HPI header and I tried that with the CVEC dual outlet when I had the stock engine. The only thing I didn't like was the CVEC leaked a lot where you screw it together. I may get some gasket sealer and seal it up and run that again.
ive had my eyes on that c5-R vette body for the past year and it still hasnt dropped in price (which sucks). i just got 3 proto form bodies...altima, infini g 35 coupe, and nissan silvia..... as for the exhaust look at ofna and not just the six ring ripple pipe http://www.ofna.com/pipes.html :cool:
liquidforrest
05-06-2003, 07:29 PM
My favorite body is the HPI silverado.
On a side note. Does anyone have thier .12R SS that they don't use and would like to sell to me? Im sick of the slooooow .15FE and i need a .12 to race. Im too broke to buy a new one so im hoping to find a good used one
rico750sxi
05-06-2003, 09:18 PM
Kronic:
Is there a particular OFNA pipe you suggest?
KronicRacer
05-06-2003, 11:23 PM
Originally posted by rico750sxi
Kronic:
Is there a particular OFNA pipe you suggest?
as you saw you have many to choose from the most common one used (i use it too) is the 6 ring pipe or ripple pipe. combine it with a tmaxx header or ported hpi black race header and the motor will have some great power to it(topend). and if you ever heard of the parisracing pipe. this is where the exact design for the ofna pipe came from. parisracing sold their specs to ofna to continue production.
dumadiscount1
05-07-2003, 07:17 PM
anyone put a fr12 into the ss? i was wondering wat mods need to be made if any? can i use the ths tuned pipe with it? can i use old engine mounts or do i need new ones and if so where can i get them? =) cheers!
rico750sxi
05-07-2003, 09:49 PM
I have Fantom's FR15 in mine. No mods at all. I was using the Ths set but I just switched to A CVEC pipe with HPI's header that I worked on a bit with my dremel. If it's a slide carb get HPI's slide carb linkage set and you'll have to move the antenna.
Also of note is that you should extend the air filter somehow so it's off to the side and not in front of the heat sink. I had a problem with my FR15 running hot until I got a motor saver Tmaxx filter extention. My filter is now almost under my loop handle thingy. And my temp. dropped almost 40 degrees. Good luck with the new engine, I'm very happy with mine.
rico750sxi
05-07-2003, 09:53 PM
Also, as far as breaking stock parts, hasn't happened yet but I'll post it when (if?) it happens. Oh wait. I did break a wheel, wheel went rolling away and the nut and hub and everything were intact. I ripped the wheel right apart! Mycar is babied quite a bit though.
burning perform
05-09-2003, 09:05 PM
rico750 i also have a Fantom FR15 engine in my car but I have had several problems already. Maybe you can help me out if not some1 else. First off the engine shifted at a quarter throttle crash during break in. Second the Header screw got messed up and third on the right side of the engine mount (under the header) the screw head came off. I also am wondering if using the stock flywheel is creating another problem with the clutchbell. rico what parts did u use (everything from engine mounts to screws if u remember). As for anyone else if you know how to fix these problems and or prevent them please tell me.
maniac_frank
05-09-2003, 09:41 PM
Hey I have a modified RS4-3! here are all of the hop ups I have for it. If you have any sugestions on what to get next please let me know:
O.S. 15 engine
HPI racing fly weel
racing clutch
two spead tranny
dynamyte racing pipe
graphit radio tray
graphit front and rear shok towers
alluminum shoks
turnbuckels
graphit bumper support
red springs in the front
white springs in the back
racing air filter
fuel filter
rear alluminum hub carriers
Mx-3 radio
carbon fiber disc brake
coming soon a racing supper chssis.
shawnhpi
05-10-2003, 03:52 PM
Ricco what kinda problems you haveing with the THS pipe?
Ive use dmy for a bunch of runs with the stock 12ss engine and i thought it performed well.
Let me know what happen to yours.
Shawn..1
http://www.angelfire.com/ny5/rs43ssnitrocar/
http://www.angelfire.com/ny5/rs43ssnitrocar/
RCRACER2471
05-11-2003, 07:52 PM
Whats good top end gearing for my car thats better than the stock gearing you get with the two speed. It has to be reasonable where the engine can handle it and line for a correct gear mesh. Can anyone help??? Thanx
rico750sxi
05-12-2003, 09:10 AM
Burning perform:
I am using the stock purple engine mounts that come with the type ss kit with allen head screws holding the mounts to the engine(use a good amount of threadlock). Using regular screws to hold the engine mounts to the chassis also with threadlock. I'm was using the THS pipe and header until I dented my pipe up somehow. I never had a problem with the header coming off or anything. Holding the header to the engine I'm using screws I got from fender-bender(maybe someone else remembers the web site?), they are very long and allow you to put lock nuts on the header. Again use a lot of threadlock. I am using HPI's lightweight flywheel with HPI's racing clutch. I found it to be a little tricky myself to get the engine mounted correctly. It was difficult to tell if both first and second were meshing well. But a little extra time was all it took.
Shawnhpi:
Like I said above, I dented my THS pipe, otherwise I was happy with it. I think I'm going to try sealing the ends and filling it with water and putting it in the freezer to see if it pops out. Now I'm running my old CVEC and a ported HPI header, I'm having a ough time seeing a difference. But the CVEC sounds real nice.
Anyone have any thoughts on the best exhaust to use?
burning perform
05-12-2003, 02:01 PM
rico thanks for your help. Now i can finally get my car to work again. I am using the dynamite tuned pipe and it works fine and it sounds nice too. I want to get the fantom tuned pipe later on but i reccomend you get it because I have heard nothing but good things about them plus they are made of steel so you wont have any problems with denting it. Check them out at fantoms website (http://www.fantom-motors.com) One more question, When you've crashed has the engine shifted out of position? thanks again
rico750sxi
05-12-2003, 09:50 PM
benderstore.com or bender-store.com has the screw kits.
No, my engine hasn't shifted at all when I crashed. And I did a nice imitation of Rusty Wallace down the tri-oval at Daytona type crash a couple of days ago. Nothing happened other than body damage. That's what I get for saying my car has been babied in a post a couple days ago.
I was thinking about the Fantom pipe but the nipple for the vent on the fuel tank would be on the bottom right?
darkdemon
05-13-2003, 03:26 PM
this crankshaft is from the original .12r sc with white case and purple head and im trying to get it running but the clutch i have doesnt fit it fits the .15 fe but not the .12 anyone know what cltch and flywheel will fit? this is the crank shaft number you can look at it on the u.s. hpi website under buy hpi and under engine parts for the 12.r sc white case i will really appreciate your help if you can help me i need to know thans in advance
CRANK SHAFT (STD/12R)
part number:1931
burning perform
05-13-2003, 08:31 PM
Rico, I was thinking the exact same thing with my dynamite pipe but it turned out fine because you can by the engine mounting wire for like 2 bucks and just bend it to make the pipe stick out the side cuz once you shape the wire you just twist the pipe so the silicone coupler is not twisted. I might be confusing you here because I am confusing my self but you rotate the pipe on the wire and make the coupler fit also.
Oh crap I just said all that for nothing i just reread your post and it turns out you were talking about the pressure return nipple not the stinger. God I feel dumb.
Anyhoo no the pressure return nipple fit fine on my dynamite pipe even though it was facing down. Instead of having the nipple face the fuel tank you would make the nipple face the back or front of the car and squeeze it through under the pipe (which is what I did because there is almost 1.5 centimeters of space underneath). If you take it around then you will just be using more fuel line.
Got any pics of your car? I really want to see it.
Where do you live? I live in Maryland near D.C.
rico750sxi
05-14-2003, 11:40 PM
burning perform:
I was thinking about getting the dyanamite 6605 pipe, I've read good things about it at nitroreview.com. The fantom pipe's pressure nipple is mounted on the side so it looks like it would interfere with the gas tank. I was thinking about just mounting the pipe rotated a little bit so the nipple was upwards more and the exhaust exit was angled downward. As far as pictures, I have a roll of film I need to get developed that has a bunch of body on shots. I'll scan a few when I get them. Otherwise, it doesn't look like much. I have no Al. parts or graphite or anything. It's all stock except the fantom FR15. It's been sitting idle for a little while now because I've been breaking in my Sportmaxx and building another RS4-3 for my stepsons out of parts I've been getting off of ebay for really cheap. This one(for now) is only has a one speed(originally from my car) and a Dynamite Mach .15.
I wrecked the body on my car too and it really bummed me out. I was proud as hell of it. I had some carb cleaner and figured it would be good to get the fuel residue off of the body. Oh, it worked but it melted half the lexan in the process. So now I need a new body.
By the way, I live in the Albany, NY area.
TopKatz
05-16-2003, 09:05 AM
Well Im selling my rs4-3. This is a totaly decked out rs4-3. I just did a tear down and rebuild of the vital 2speed componets. It has a brand new one way bearing, 2speed clutch bell, and 2speed gears. It has a full set of bocca bearings, and HD finnal gears. All and all about $1200 in hop ups and what not. This would be a excelent car for begginer to intermediate user who wants all the hop-ups, but does not want to pay for them!
Included is radio, brand new body(awsome paint job!!!), brand new set of Tamyia slicks... this car is clean and solid....
Ebay auction number 3131451457
TeeGeeRacer
05-16-2003, 11:52 PM
HPI's site has pix of the R40!!
Check it out:http://www.hpiracing.com/index2.htm
LOOKS like a pretty solid design. I notice alot if the weight is concentrated in the middle-a bit to the rear which should be great. Can't wait to see what it's really like though!
http://www.hpiracing.com/graphics/r40/821m.jpg
The front end looks pretty interesting huh?
KronicRacer
05-17-2003, 08:59 AM
Originally posted by TeeGeeRacer
HPI's site has pix of the R40!!
Check it out:http://www.hpiracing.com/index2.htm
LOOKS like a pretty solid design. I notice alot if the weight is concentrated in the middle-a bit to the rear which should be great. Can't wait to see what it's really like though!
http://www.hpiracing.com/graphics/r40/821m.jpg
The front end looks pretty interesting huh?
im convinced im getting one. its funny i already have that centerforce clutch for the nrs4 3 and the 2 shoe 2 speed.
burning perform
05-17-2003, 09:48 AM
forget the R40 cuz its only for tracks. I want the new electric model cuz i only have one friend who has a nitro and i smok him so i wanna race the rest of my friends in that electric. Plus i also like detailing my bodies (concourse and crap)
save1992
05-17-2003, 03:09 PM
which car should i get and why
TeeGeeRacer
05-17-2003, 09:11 PM
Hey Burning Perform, I feel you on that one. I myself am more of a basher than a racer so it wouldn't make sense for me to get the R40. It's just great to see HPI release a car that isn't intended as a 'sport' type car. Kudos HPI!
Save1992, I'd take the HPI over the OFNA. The OFNA is a great car. It can be raced competitively. It's dirt cheap. But its... I dunno, it's an OFNA.
The HPI is a tough car. Replacement and aftermarket parts are everywhere and cheap. Quality is awesome.
I see it like this... Would you rather have some superfast Daewoo sports car or a Honda Civic Si? Hope that helps.
Not to knock OFNA cause I am considering a Pirate 10M. Imagine a NMT powered by a .21 (and it can take it!)
KronicRacer
05-17-2003, 10:54 PM
Originally posted by save1992
which car should i get and why
i would also say to get an hpi. its not to be biased or anything, but its a great entry level car and it has parts galore. to me the ob4 is a ntc3 knock off. the nrs43 is definately a fun car race worthy(after a few mods;)) and tuff as nails too....
im still pretty psyched about the r40 its still a biiiiiig step in the right direction for hpi. now will it handle the likes of a team magic g4, 705, mt3, or ntc3.... the plot now thickens..................:D
liquidforrest
05-18-2003, 11:34 AM
save1992, one good reason to get the HPI over the OFNA is PARTS! every hobby shop carries HPI readly avalible and shouldn't have a problem stocking your parts. the OFNA on the other hand is a little harder to get parts around here. its ultimetly up to U. the OFNA is a good car.
oN_dUbZ
05-19-2003, 08:49 PM
hey all, I got a HPI Nitro RS4-3 RTR with the Lamborghini Murcielago body that's up for sale. I also put in the HPI 2-speed transmission and a Novarossi air filter. There are some fuel filters and new fuel line too. I have a hpi pro glow starter and ofna crosswrench and some other accessories. I have lots of cleaners and after-run oils and instant glue that I will throw in. The car is in great condidition, and I have run about 4 tanks through the engine with proper break-in procedures done. It's a great car and I will sell it reasonably cheap and negotiations can be worked out. PLease feel free t