HPI Micro RS-4 Forum v2.0

[InspGadgt]

Man that transition from the banked turns to the infield must be harsh on those micros. I know it was on my 1/12th scale pan car the 2 saturdays I raced out there the last time I visited Cali.

[jkerr0043]

It wasn't too bad the way they had the layout done. The worst was the brick wall when you're constantly getting glitched in the fastest part of the track, through the banked sweeper. Full throttle sweeping right, suddenly a glitch turing it left full speed into the wall. :mad: Two broken T plates and a left front steering knuckle ended my night before the heats even got started.

[BobT]

Originally posted by salito123
quick question for you guys, I recently got my micro (PICTURES TO COME)

I'm really a nitro guy and this is my first attempt at these cars. question is

I am trying to mount soem foam tires and the wheels have a lip aroun the edge, how do i mount the foam tires? is there an insert thats required and where can i get it, any help will be appreciated, thanks

There is a thread in the "yourmicro.com" site that deals with the foam donuts.

I just buy them pre-mounted.

http://yourmicro.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=5748&goto=newpost

[Rookie Solara]

I want to know the different of 140mm and150mm, are they referring the WIDTH or the LENGTH?

Thanks.........

Also, does anyone ever run 800mAH AAA batteries pack? Aren't they suppose to be lighter then 2/3A and AA? Only down sides is the mAh but they should be good enough for 8 minutes race...

[RoachRacing]

Originally posted by Rookie Solara
I want to know the different of 140mm and150mm, are they referring the WIDTH or the LENGTH?

Length. With the stock chassis and some of the upgraded ones you can change the wheelbase length between 140 and 150. The micro comes stock as 150. If you change it to 140 you have to buy a different belt.

[jkerr0043]

You can get the micro kit in either 140 or 150mm configuration. It depends on what kit you buy. As far as the difference, yes it is the length of the wheel base. The 150 is more stable for bigger, sweeping tracks where the 140 is better for tighter, more technical tracks.

[Rookie Solara]

Great, thanks for the help......

Also, how come no one run Micro on AAA batteries...? I know AAA only has 800mAH, but does the weight of the AAA batteries have any advantage over AA or 2/3A batteries?

For 8 minutes race, AAA 88mAh should be long enough....

[jkerr0043]

AAA's aren't going to have nearly enough power. I can get about 8-9 min out of my car running ProMatch cells with foams and a 370 motor. The promatch really get the best run time I've seen and if you charge them nice and slow (1 -1.5 amps) you can get some massive capacity out of them.

[offroader]

Just wondering if anyone knows where I can get paint masks for micro's? More specificly where I can print some off?


Thanks

[salito123]

as promised

here is a pic of the micro i been working on, I electronics that i had laying around to keep cost down.

it is equiped with 2/3 8 cell pack (made by yours truely)
exo chassis and servo mount and

novak fusion speed control, futaba 133 75mhx fm rx
speed 300 motor
ball diff
alloy dog bones

and few other things i cant remember right now

this is my first attempt at a micro, i'm more a nitro guy

and been doing this on the side while make my savage into a super savage, comments welcomed thanks

[hyperstang]

Salito..

Nice...real nice, maybe later you might get rid of those bullet plugs and maybe go with a micro plug or dean's for your connection so all that won't get mashed when you put your body on.

I know man...I myself..am a nitro guy until I saw a micro with free shipping. So I ordered it and was hooked. I now have 4 micros, 3 I race and 1 is my all show, no go micro. Those are my two hardcore micros on the back couple of pages. I plan on racing the hardcore, but they recalled my NOVAK ION's so I need to modify my chassis to hold the regular batteries.

Race on...

[k_sw31]

I must be the only person in the world with a mostly stock micro...

[metalry101]

You just might be, but then again, I'm trying to sell or trade my modded Micro away, and I want a stock one. Anyone in here have one they could hook me up w/?

[Grizzbob]

Not at all, k_sw31, mine is all stock except for adding HPI's rear ball diff & micro servo mount & linkage kit, & a selection of pinions, tires & springs. And to be honest, I don't see much reason to seriously mod it just yet, at least not till I start trying mod motors(the micro class we're running here has been all stock motors with 6 cell packs). I've been quite happy with the car's handling so far, just gotta get used to driving it & make some minor adjustments...;)

[Got Speed]

salito123- LOL, me too. I was a nitro guy untill I decided Id try one of these at only $80 it wouldn't be a big loss if I didn't like it. I love it though and am trying to get some organized micro racing going.

[RS4rally1124]

metalry i may be interested in trade. mine is all stock except motor. pm me

JT

[trxstr1961]

i have a mostly stock micro, and love it! never knew something so small could be so much fun! recently got a new body and set of rims for it. body is a bolink stang, rims are aluminum. :cool:

[k_sw31]

I have new tires, new motor, and I made my own servo mount, that is pretty much it. I dont have any money to blow on it anyways...I just ordered a B4 :p

[trxstr1961]

got pics?? would like to see ytour ideas :)

[tOrcHed Lh]

micro noob here...

i'm looking to buy a micro kit and hop it up for bashing so i have a lot of q's

for a chasis i'm considering the ratzas pan, ratzas unlimited extreme, and the team epic EXO

1. which ones require a special micro servo...
2. what battery configurations can be run in these chasis?
3. how much modification needs to be done to install the EXO?
4. do you suggest an upper deck? if so which one...
5. TO big block or elite? which ones can fit the big block?

i plan on getting a spy ESC and xxl rx. o and i'll be bashing most the time

thanks

[InspGadgt]

Originally posted by tOrcHed Lh
micro noob here...

i'm looking to buy a micro kit and hop it up for bashing so i have a lot of q's

for a chasis i'm considering the ratzas pan, ratzas unlimited extreme, and the team epic EXO

1. which ones require a special micro servo...
2. what battery configurations can be run in these chasis?
3. how much modification needs to be done to install the EXO?
4. do you suggest an upper deck? if so which one...
5. TO big block or elite? which ones can fit the big block?

i plan on getting a spy ESC and xxl rx. o and i'll be bashing most the time

thanks

Personally I reccomend the EXO chassis (Now by Motek). It seems to have the best weight distribution of all the chassis out there.
1. The EXO is made for the HiTech 81MG servo but I have seen other micro servos being used.
2. The EXO has a special battery configuration. You will need to build a pack from loose cells. I'm building 3 packs for my car now and will be gluing each to their own battery brace. This should make for easier battery changes and also solid packs for easier storage.
3. The only modification is to the upper hinge pin brace on the front suspension. It must be cut to allow the servo to be mounted vertically.
4. The EXO does not use an upper deck.
5. The EXO fits the big block just fine. However the big block burns out with 6 cell packs so when you replace it get the Speed300 motor. It's only $10-$15 and is the exact same motor.

[tOrcHed Lh]

the motek chassis has slots for 8 batteries... how do you balance the car out with 6? 2 L shaped packs? anyway i'm interested in your pack/batteries, do you have any pictures?

can you use a standard servo if you don't buy the special servo mount?

i've actually been looking at the penguin rc le man chassis:
http://www.penguinrc.com/products/hpi/p3500lm.html

i like the way you can mount the batteries down the sides of the chasis in a "bullet" configuration: http://www.penguinrc.com/graphics/detail_pictures/p3509b_large.jpg

not sure if i want the upper deck, rear shock mount, or pod kit.... i'm just gonna be bashing, do you think it'd make much of a difference? is the upper deck just for strenthening or does it have any other function?

do you know if standard servos can work with this chasis?

thanks

[Scrad]

I have the Penguin Le mans chassis for sale. Check out the 4 sale section if you are interested.

[InspGadgt]

The 2 cells on the right side of the car are balanced out by the reciever and the ESC mounted on the left and middle left. With the Penguin the weight of the batteries are on the extreme edges of the chassis. This is something chassis designers generally try to avoid as it yields some bad roll characteristics in a car. Also the batteries sit up higher on top of a battery tray. With the Motek they sit down low in the chassis. Not to mention how much of a pain it is to change the batteries on the Penguin. I remember watching one of our racers trying to change out his pack thinking...man what a pain. Not saying it's a bad chassis...If the EXO wasn't out I'd be using the Penguin as my next choice.

[pchan]

Originally posted by InspGadgt
5. The EXO fits the big block just fine. However the big block burns out with 6 cell packs so when you replace it get the Speed300 motor. It's only $10-$15 and is the exact same motor.

LOL...:rolleyes: ...Where did you hear that? I've been using BB with 6 cells for quite some time now and it's been more than a perfect combo...

[jkerr0043]

Originally posted by InspGadgt
The 2 cells on the right side of the car are balanced out by the reciever and the ESC mounted on the left and middle left.

I have to run the receiver on the right side though, If I don't, I get nasty glitching problems with it right next to the ESC.

[tOrcHed Lh]

can the team epic use a standard servo?

[jkerr0043]

no. it's best to use the hitec 81mg. That's what it's designed for but there have been other micro servos used. but you can't fit a standard one on it.

[InspGadgt]

Originally posted by pchan
LOL...:rolleyes: ...Where did you hear that? I've been using BB with 6 cells for quite some time now and it's been more than a perfect combo...

I see it every month at our micro races. The BB motor is designed for use with 6v, the additional voltage makes it burn out much quicker then other micro motors.

[InspGadgt]

Originally posted by jkerr0043
I have to run the receiver on the right side though, If I don't, I get nasty glitching problems with it right next to the ESC.

Yes some people have done that. That's even the way reccomended if you are using a transponder. The same problem exists on the stock chassis as well often times because of how close the reciever and ESC sit. I've been running a Novak XXL FM in mine right next to my Quantum Reverse ESC and fortunately havn't had any glitching problems.

[jkerr0043]

I haven't tried it since I got my SPY but when I was running an Orion Flash, everytime the throttle was touched, the servo would go nuts. Maybe I'll try it now that I have the smaller spy and can put a little seperation between them. that would help my handling a lot.

[tOrcHed Lh]

well i'm gonna buy tsallion's micro: http://www.rctech.net/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=14259&highlight=micro

it has a team epic chasis and micro servo. anyway i had a question about configuring battery pack for it. on epic's site they give instructuons on how to build a pack in this configuration:
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could i configure it like this?
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and have the rx and esc at the front right and left corners of the chasis. it seems like this would balance out the car better because it'd be more symetrical... is there something i'm missing? would this work?

thanks

[jkerr0043]

Originally posted by tOrcHed Lh
well i'm gonna buy tsallion's micro: http://www.rctech.net/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=14259&highlight=micro

it has a team epic chasis and micro servo. anyway i had a question about configuring battery pack for it. on epic's site they give instructuons on how to build a pack in this configuration:
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could i configure it like this?
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and have the rx and esc at the front right and left corners of the chasis. it seems like this would balance out the car better because it'd be more symetrical... is there something i'm missing? would this work?

thanks

There's no problem doing that. In fact, had I not glued all my packs together, I'd reconfigure mine like that.

[tOrcHed Lh]

alrighty sounds good....i got a few more Q's.

are sub C batteries the right size the solder to adjacent batteries together?

and how are the batteries held down to the EXO chasis? do i need to buy an 8 cell plate?

[jkerr0043]

The EXO comes with a 6 cell plate for the L configuration. If you're going to do the centerd confg. you may want to get the 8 cell plate just to make sure all of the cells are held down tight.

[tOrcHed Lh]

ahh ok thx

[InspGadgt]

Originally posted by tOrcHed Lh
are sub C batteries the right size the solder to adjacent batteries together?

No...micro cars use a 2/3rds A cell.

[Got Speed]

tOrcHed Lh- You can use a standard servo, but it is best to run a micro servo. Im running a stock servo in mine right now.

[Got Speed]

tOrcHed Lh- You can use a standard servo, but it is best to run a micro servo. Im running a stock servo in mine right now. You need to have some 2/3 a cells. Sub Cs won't work. I bought my epic chassis and it has slots for 8 cells. I don't know maybe there is a difference in the older ones and the new ones.

[k_sw31]

Originally posted by trxstr1961
got pics?? would like to see ytour ideas :)

Well, the only reason it worked is because I removed the belt (I run 2wd). I basically used a plate of aluminum to screw on to the chassis, and then the servo was held to that. You would be better off buying a servo mount kit.

[tOrcHed Lh]

wow that wasn't even a sentence up there... what i meant to ask was: are sub c battery bars the right size to solder adjacent batteries together?

because it just seems like using microbraid for the one cell on the other side of the belt wouldn't hold it very well and would make the pack really fragile.... and i thought maybe a battery bar would do a better job of securing it.

maybe this will give you a litlle understanding of *** i'm talking about :D

[jkerr0043]

They are a little fragile. All I did with mine is glue a strip of lexan on top briging the gap. That gave it enough strength. But bars are too long and thick. Another thing you can try I saw someone post earlier is buy a few battery braces and glue each pack to it's own brace. Being configured the way you're looking at it, I'd get the 8 cell brace. Damn I wish I haden't glued all mine together. I may have to order some more cells from Promatch and do this.

[tOrcHed Lh]

hmmm buying a battery brace for each pack would get kinda expensive...would the battery bars work for the cell across the belt? i do like the idea with the lexan...

[Rookie Solara]

Can someone tell me the different between these NAME of the motors.......? So far, I heard 370, speed 300, big block, Graupner Speed 300 (is that the same as speed 300?) Elite Micro Modified...?

I heard they are ALL THE SAME except different packaging......so far, I am using Graupner Speed 300 (it was on the car already as a used car)..........is 370 a something bigger and faster (I mean in size and rpm)........

Thanks all..........

[InspGadgt]

I havn't priced out the 8 cell battery brace but the standard 6 cell ones only cost me $5 each. Well worth it in my mind.

[Temjin006]

Hi

Can anyone tell me if I ll be able to use the team orion 7.2v battery pack with any of the pan chassis such as the Team epic and the Ratzas Xtreme Unlimited. I really dont want to make my packs for the pan chassis since I m only going to race with a few friends just for fun.

Is the Team Orion Flash speed control any good? I am plannin to use a 9.6V pack later on.

How about the Elite Motor? I heard that its good and other said it doesnt last. Is the run time on this good. Should I consider the Big Block instead? I want speed and run time the most.

I m still new to micro and need some help.

[BobT]

"Can anyone tell me if I ll be able to use the team orion 7.2v battery pack with any of the pan chassis such as the Team epic and the Ratzas Xtreme Unlimited?"

Yes. You can use almost any battery configuration on the ARM chassis.

"Is the Team Orion Flash speed control any good? I am plannin to use a 9.6V pack later on. "

No the Flash would probably flash when you hooked up the 8-cell pack. I was never impressed with the Flash and replaced it with a GM V4R. I would look for an ESC like a GM V3R, V4, or V4R that can handle 10-cells.

"How about the Elite Motor? I heard that its good and other said it doesnt last. "

My Orion Elite has been very dependable for over a year. Along with being much faster than the HPI mod motor it is very efficient and gives you great run time. The Big Block is also very fast but your runtime will suffer. So if you want to run 15 minute races go for the Elite. If you are just running 5 minutes go big block.

[davespencer]

do a cells work good for micros or are they hard to fit in they are 16.5 mm bye 50 mm long i runs a stock chassis exdcept BB motor and hs 81 thanks for the help.

[jkerr0043]

All of the motors you listed but the elite are the exact same thing. The elite is a different motor that ge's a lot more torque but not the top end. The 370 is what you get if you go to a Hobby People. It's actually an airplane motor by wattage. You spend $8 on one calling it a 370 motor instead of $40 buying the "big block" from orion. Orion does put a capacitor chip on it instead of you soldering them on but that's it.

[InspGadgt]

Originally posted by Temjin006
Hi

Can anyone tell me if I ll be able to use the team orion 7.2v battery pack with any of the pan chassis such as the Team epic and the Ratzas Xtreme Unlimited. I really dont want to make my packs for the pan chassis since I m only going to race with a few friends just for fun.

Yes you can use the Orion battery pack with the EXO chassis but you'll need to take it apart and reconfigure it.

[Temjin006]

Anyone here got the Penguin RC Penguin P3500lm chassis? It said you can use the upper deck from the original hpi chassis. Does that mean I can also use the team Orion battery packs?

"The 150mm mode also allows the option of using the standard size HPI Upper Deck or our Standard Upper Deck Option (P3502s) when using the 150mm format. Using one of these decks will retain the use of the standard HPI Battery mounting System."

here is the site: http://www.penguinrc.com/products/hpi/p3500lm.html

[MOMO1]

I found a 5-cell 6.0 volt Nickel Metal Hydride pack for $9.99 at Radio Shack. The part number is 23-952 it has metal contact tabs so you will have to solder your own wire and plug to the pack. They also have other Nickel Cadmium batteries that are wired with a plug that fits the plug on any micro speed control but
the cost is slightly higher about $12.99 and they don’t have the same punch. If they ask it fits a cordless phone by Bell South FFD-900. Although this pack was rated at 600 mah it gives me longer run times than the green 1100s I was previously using on my Motek EXO chassis. They work great in my micro. I will probably never buy any other batteries unless Novak re-releases it’s lithium-ion charger and batteries.
:cool:

[MOMO1]

I have Team Epic/Motek EXO chassis and I run just about any battery pack without modifications. I simply tape the pack to the
battery brace and lay a grommet or thick o-ring and the chassis
to elevate the batteries above the belt.
:cool:

[8 Baller]

hey anybody got info on a special edition micro i see it for sale on a hk site.no ones ever mentioned it before

[davespencer]

do "A" cells work good for micros or are they hard to fit in? they are 16.5 mm bye 50 mm long i runs a stock chassis exdcept BB motor and hs 81 thanks! I qwanted to knwo cuz i can get 60 cells for less than 12 dollers SHIPPED!!! thanks again.

[tl01boi]

IM GUNNA GET A MICRO RS4 OFF EBAY AND I WANNA MAKE IT RACE READY CAN U GUYS TELL ME WHAT I SHOULD GET AND WHAT I SHOULDNT GET MY TRACK STARTS RACING IN APRIL AND THEY HAVE A MICRO CLASS , I WANNA BLOW OFF ALL MY COMPETITION IN DUST IT WILL BE MY FIRST 1/18 SCALE RC CAR THE ONLY ONES I USUALLY RACE ARE 1/10 AND 1/8 NITRO I HAVE SOME EXPERIENCE ON ELECTRIC CARS

[Temjin006]

Which one diff is better? Should i use one way?

[Grizzbob]

tl01boi, before you buy anything, I'd ask the guys who run Micros at that track to see what classes of them they run. If they mostly run stock, then you can be very competitive with the basic HPI chassis & with a minimum of upgrades, like HPI's rear ball diff & the micro servo mount/steering links kit. In my area, we just run the stock motors(Orion's Elite stock is allowed too) & 6 cell packs, & they don't allow us to use one-ways, but pretty much anything else is fine. With those rules, I'm still very competitive with the stock HPI chassis & the rear ball diff & micro servo mount/linkage set, plus some extra pinions, tires & springs(my best lap times are every bit as good as guys running the Penguin, Motek, or other custom chassis), but for mod motors the story might be different. I'm not sure on that score yet because I've only had my Micro for a couple of weeks & only run the motor that came with it(but I'm sure I'll eventually try a mod, just don't know when). You should definitely ask the local guys what's hot there before you sink some cold hard cash on it....:cool:

[Grizzbob]

Oh, & about diffs(at least rear ones), my understanding is the HPI one IS the best available(I know i love it in mine, smooth as silk), almost everyone I've heard from say the same about it. But for front diffs, I don't know, haven't tried one yet(I just added some pretension to the spring in my front gear diff, & it seems to work pretty well)....:)

[trxstr1961]

why dont people leave well enough alone?? i love my micro just the way it is.. :)

[jkerr0043]

Originally posted by trxstr1961
why dont people leave well enough alone?? i love my micro just the way it is.. :)

Because we like our micros to handle better and look good.

[tl01boi]

well they havent started a class for it and we race in april n they said they will anounce the starting of the micro class the first day so im really not sure , but which motor should i get from team orion that has higher speeds im thinking of the spy speed controller i wanna run a 7.2 pack or a 8.4 pack mini bb servo and what chassis do i get

[tl01boi]

will this chassis improve handling in any sort for onroad http://www.microrcstore.com/itemDesc.php?itemNumber=CH01

[jkerr0043]

It will but a I prefer the Motek.

[tOrcHed Lh]

i've decided to go with a pack from blind... but i can't decide if i want 6 or 7 cells... i want the run time... but take a look at this pic, it's perfect with 7.

how much of a difference of speed and run time would there be using a wattage 370?

[k_sw31]

wouldn't all that aluminum weigh you down and make you go slower, rather than providing a real performance increase?

[trxstr1961]

i can c the looking good part. But for me, i cant see all the hop ups, since i dont race my micro !

But hey.. to each his/her own! ;)

[tOrcHed Lh]

haha it's not mine.. hell i don't even have a micro yet. that's just an example of the 7 cell setup i'm talking about.

[trxstr1961]

does anyone have pic of a mazda rx7?? i want to see what all the hype over these bodies r :confused:

[Temjin006]

After reading this mag a few days ago, i saw this micro with a belt tensioner on it. Do you guys know anything about the belt tensioner and who makes it?

[Allen T]

*Does anyone know if this chassis is good? (see link)

http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXCMY9&P=K

*Also, will the Orion/HPI/Trinity prebuilt battery packs (6V) fit on this chassis?


Thanks!!!

Allen T

[InspGadgt]

Tem...I saw a GPM upper deck with a belt guide on e-bay the other day. My guess is that it was a belt tensioner of some sort.


Well after months of waiting for all the right parts I finally got my EXO chassis back on it's wheels again. Got 2 passes on it back and forth and the ESC fried! ARRRRRG!!! Too bad too...the car looked super promising. No matter what I did I couldn't get the back end to break traction.

[Temjin006]

I work at a LHS for part-time after school. I am waiting to see if my boss can get the Ratzas exteme unlimited chassis.

I m looking for the belt tensioner rite now

[tOrcHed Lh]

gadget,
what ESC were you using?

i just got a almost bone stock micro from a trade and i'm keeping an eye out for used ESC's. i can't decide beween a spy, quantum micro reverse, and quantum sport. i plan to run 7 cells with a speed 300. what ESC do you guys run and how's it working out?

thanks

[trxstr1961]

i guess no one has a pic for me :( well, guess ill go AMERICAN and use my stang body i just got! :cool:

[aussie_bloke]

has anyone tried out the new ratzas chassis?

[InspGadgt]

torched,

It was a LRP Quantum Reverse...not the micro version but the one for 540 motors. For the most part it's really been a great ESC and has worked flawlessly for over a year. I'm guessing I probably overheated the board when I soldered in the wires the night b4 and damaged something. That's the one thing I really don't like about the ESC is that you solder your wires directly on the board instead of on a post which will absorb some of the heat and dissapate it before it gets passed on.

I'll try and remember to post pics of it tomorrow with it's new Toyota GT1 body on it...car looks SWEET!

[tOrcHed Lh]

i see. i've kinda ruled out the spy now as i've heard a lot of people have been frying them.... so now i'm trying to decide between the quantum reverse, quantum micro reverse, and quantum sport. leaning towards the quantum reverse cuz it's rated for higher specs than the micro so i could use it in 1/10 if i ever want to. a sport would work too i guess, not really sure how important reverse is to me....

[InspGadgt]

I bought this one before the Quantum Micro Reverse came out...but I still would have bought this one. I don't like the idea that my ESC is going to be limited to my Micro.

[Got Speed]

Originally posted by Allen T
*Does anyone know if this chassis is good? (see link)

http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXCMY9&P=K

*Also, will the Orion/HPI/Trinity prebuilt battery packs (6V) fit on this chassis?


Thanks!!!

Allen T

I would spend $50 on an EXO or Penguin chassis. www.teamspeedster.com I think has both of them.

[InspGadgt]

Finally pics of my Toyota GT1 body on my Motek EXO chassis...

[InspGadgt]

The top...

[InspGadgt]

The chassis...

[tOrcHed Lh]

whoa sweet rear body mount.....who makes that?

[InspGadgt]

I made it myself. After years of racing pan cars I figured a similar type mount would be perfect for this chassis and allow for easier access to the motor.

[tOrcHed Lh]

cool.

my micro's is in the mail.... my list of upgrades are as follows.

1. lrp quantum reverse
2. 6 or 7 cell packs from blind and speed 300 motor
3. epic EXO, 8 cell plate, servo mount, hitec 81mg
4. hpi steel universals, hpi rear ball diff, gh front ball diff

i plan to purchse each "number" (group of hop ups) one at a time cuz i don't have the $300 or so right now... :rolleyes: anything other upgrade you find worthwhile?

thanks

[InspGadgt]

That's nearly an identical setup to what I have on that car. Except I went with GH diffs for both front and back and I also added GH shocks. The shocks really weren't needed but I had lost my stock plastic rear one after I stopped using it. When I thinned the EXO suspension plate I found I needed a shock again. A word on the Speed 300 motor. You'll need the GH motor plate for it. It's the same as the Orion motor plate for the Big Block. The ARM motor plate (Shown on my car) does not fit properly in the car and I had to do a number of modifictions to get it to work right. Other then that you'll want a graphite rear deck of some sort. Aftermarket or home made like mine. The stock plastic one just has too much flex for my taste. Also the EXO chassis moves it back about 1/8th". This put it almost under the rear wing on my Corvette C5R body which made putting in the rear body clips somewhat of a chore.

[AEcrazyT3]

Hey does anybody know any online store that has the Team Orion BB in stock! I didnt know that this motor was such a rare find! Thanks for your help guys!

[jkerr0043]

Go to a Hobby People store if there's one near you and buy the Wattage 370 airplane motor. It's the same thing for $15 less. You just have to solder your own capacitors on.

[trxstr1961]

now if someone would make a 4wd pan car, that would b cool :D

[Got Speed]

Originally posted by trxstr1961
now if someone would make a 4wd pan car, that would b cool :D

A pan chassis micro is basicly a 1/18, 4wd, pan car.

jkerr0043- Do you run a 370 motor? I had one and hated it because it wasn't as fast, as much power, or run times as the speed 300. I got a speed 300 now and love it. I got it with the motor plate for $20. I had no trouble with the motor plate on my exo chassis. I don't think they are all cut the same. I have two and they don't look the same.

AEcrazyT3- www.teamspeedster.com has the speed 300 and all the micro mods I know of.:)

[tOrcHed Lh]

InspGadgt,
are there any BB motor plates that don't requrire modification to fit in the EXO? or what needs to be done to fit the ARM motor plate?

AEcrazyT3,
go to www.blindbatts.com (the site might be down) and order a wattage 370 for $10! then with the saved $40, you can buy yourself a 6 pack, motor plate, steel universals, and send the left over $$ to me :p.

[InspGadgt]

Originally posted by trxstr1961
now if someone would make a 4wd pan car, that would b cool :D

Well actually the micro is based off of a 4wd 1/12th pan car design. Several years ago Kyosho had a 4wd 1/12th scale pan car that was chain drive. However this never caught on as it was not legal to race in any class. Later the designer of that car went to HPI and bingo...now we have the Micro.

[InspGadgt]

Torched,

The Orion Big Block motor plate or the GH motor plate (Same thing) fit on the EXO chassis with only the same modification as all the other chassis. The upper screw mount on the rear axle tube needs to be ground thinner to allow more movement of the motor so you can get a 13T pinion on there with the proper gear mesh.

To make the ARM mount fit right I had to do the following:
- Grind the rear axle tube a little for more motor clearance
- Bevel the edge of the aluminum t-plate mount
- Thin the T-plate about half it's thickness underneath the motor

AECrazy,

If your not using the EXO chassis you can get the Speed 300 motor, ARM motor mount, and capacitor board from www.microrcstore.com for about $26 total.

[tOrcHed Lh]

Originally posted by Got Speed
A pan chassis micro is basicly a 1/18, 4wd, pan car.

jkerr0043- Do you run a 370 motor? I had one and hated it because it wasn't as fast, as much power, or run times as the speed 300. I got a speed 300 now and love it. I got it with the motor plate for $20. I had no trouble with the motor plate on my exo chassis. I don't think they are all cut the same. I have two and they don't look the same.

AEcrazyT3- www.teamspeedster.com has the speed 300 and all the micro mods I know of.:)

what 370 were you using? the wattage 370 is the the same as the TO BB and speed 300. they all have the same Mabuchi part number from CHINA.

[Temjin006]

Which of these ESC is good:

Novak Spy

LRP Quantum w/ Reverse or Micro

Team Orion Flash

I am under major budget and dont want to spend too much money. I am building the entire car from upgrades such as pan chassis and the whole drivetrain.

[k_sw31]

I have heard the novak spy is pretty good, same with the quantam. But I have not heard great things about the flash, get the spy or the quantam :)

[tOrcHed Lh]

i've heard LOTS of bad things about the flash so i'd stay away. i've heard good things about the spy (mainly the price) when running 6 cells. however many have fried their spies running 7 cells (which is within the spec'ed limit).

i've heard almost nothing but good things about the quantum reverse and micro reverse. differences between them are the plugs and forward current. the micro reverse has micro plugs and rated at 25A while the regular quantum reverse is rated for 70A and comes wuth standard tamiya plugs. they're the same price so i'm going to get the regular quantum reverse because i could use it in a 1/10 scale if i ever wanted to. and the micro connectors are useless for me because i plan to run deans anyway.

[wrxdan]

What charger are you guys using to charge your Nimh micro packs? I also need to be able to charge nitro Rx packs? Any suggestions?

[Temjin006]

Are the Hpi micro style plugs any good just for playing around. I am not going into serious racing but still want the hopup and parts.

[Grizzbob]

Temjin006, I had the same question when I started shopping for my Micro, & from what I was told, the Orion Flash is a good ESC to play with, but for racing the Spy is MUCH better(so I bought a Spy, & I love the little sucker). Since I don't run a racing class that allows more than 6 cell packs, I don't have a problem with the Spy not being as able to handle that...as for charging my NiMh micro packs, I've been using my original Novak Millenium in NiCd Linear mode, charging at 1.5 amps with a 9mV voltage threshold, seems to work well(the packs get just a bit warm like they should, & I seem to get planty of punch on track).....:cool:

[tOrcHed Lh]

i have a MRC superbrain:
http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXAVN1&P=7

perfect for almost anything and at $45 it's hard to beat. however, many complain about it's tenancy to overheat and false peak after 3 or 4 consecutive chargers. some have even gone as far as mount a fan onto it. i've never had a problem, but i rarely charge more than 2 packs consecitively (tx, rx, and 12v gelc ell).

others have had good experience with this duratrax intellipeak charger:
http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXUF43&P=7

i don't have any expiereince with this charger so i cant really comment on it.

Temjin006,
i think it would have to do with the number of cells and the motor you use.... i don't even have a micro yet (hopefully it'll come tomorrow!!), but many have melted the stock plugs running 6 or 7 cells with their speed 300 (big block). but i think if you're only running a 5 or 6 cell pack with a micro motor you should be OK. but take my advice lightly as i have no expiereince at all with these setups or plugs.

[InspGadgt]

I use a Tekin BC112C

[Philly's Finest]

I can't make up my mind on what to get next for my micro. I don't have much to spend. I was thinking of the dual tie-rod steering set or the ratzas rear deck or maybe aluiminum rims or knuckles or.......lol I just don't know:p

[jkerr0043]

Got Speed- I've had no trouble with my 370. However it does seem to be wearing out. I've been running the same motor for six months. And between that motor and the Promatch cells, I may even have a little more speed than some of the other guys running Big Blocks.

[Rookie Solara]

Does anyone know how to adjust the GH front ball diff...? I just received mine, it looks great, and performs nicely, however, the instruction said turn clockwise to tighten the diff and the otherway do the opposite, but I cannot adjust it correct to tell the different...can anyone help? Thanks

Also, is there any aftermarket motor BLOCK (not plate) for me to use if I am using 300 motor with the plate...? I shaved my motor block for now, but just wondering things like Team Orion, GH or powerline made something that is not require modificaiton and I can still use Big block motor/plate and use the lowest tooth gear (like 8T)

Thanks again

[Temjin006]

how good is the hitec HS-81MG and the HS-85MG? I heard they break a lot.

[Jason C]

Rookie Solara,

I don't know much about GH's new ball diff, but you should adjust it so that the diff does not slip. In my opinion, a tighter diff is better than one that is too loose. Clockwise for tightening sounds about right to me.


Temjin,

I have had the HS-85MG for a year and have not had any problems so far. You can prevetn servo damage by installing the optional servosaver kit from HPI. It will also give you the benefit of being able to adjust toe.

[InspGadgt]

Rookie,

basically you turn the diff housing so they screw into each other...that will compress the diff more and make it tighter.

Tem,

The MG versions of those servos should not break. MG denotes Metal Gears. Both servos have a non-MG version which breaks very easy.

[Grizzbob]

Agreed, I have an 81MG in mine, & I'm very happy with it(especially using the HPI micro servo mount kit with adjustable tie rods)....:)

[tOrcHed Lh]

I'm able to buy NEW OEM 2/3A NIMH 1100mah cells at bulk and i was just feeling out if there'd be any interest. my prices would be as follows:
1-10 - $1.75 each
20-50 - $1.60 each

shipping would be $5 via USPS prioirty mail with delivery confirmation. please let me know if any of you would be interested.

[trxstr1961]

i have a ? for u micro-heads out there.... i have a 5-cell pack and the cells list as this: mh-2/3a1000 china

what doe this mean?? And the pack has no brand name on it.\
I use a pro-tech 709 charger and have had good results with it. it has a stock motor in it, but i have a hpi mod motor i got with my car.... will this motor, with my 5 cell pack, make a lot of difference?? Also, is there a difference in a fancy front diff and the stock 1 :confused:

[tOrcHed Lh]

the cells are 2/3A size , have a capacity of 1000mah, and made in CHINA. most 2/3A cells being sold are generic OEM cells. except for maybe GP (but you pay more $$$ for the name).

a 5 even 6 cell pack will work fine on the hpi stock ESC. and a front ball differenitial will be a lot smoother than the stock gera differntial.

[tOrcHed Lh]

well i've decided not to bulk order these batteries as i didn't get a big enough repsonse. anyways here is a place where you can order them for cheap!!:
http://www.batteryspace.com/product.asp?0=217&1=286&3=204

$15 for 16 cells w/free shipping if you live CA. i've now gone back to the idea of using 2/3A cells like this:
[][][][]
--[][]

as for holding that top left and top right cells i've heard two suggestions. glue lexan to them. or glue each pack to its own brace. my question is regarding glueing the lexan... isn't the 8 cell plate and chasis made for the cells to somewhat recess in it's cut outs as to keep the cells from moving? wouldn't gluing lexan to the cells not allow the chasiss or top plate to get that "grip" in between the cells?

i've also decided on a novak spy and speed 300. i really want a quantum reverse, but i can't seem to find any good deals with used ones. i can get a used spy for $35 so i think i'll do that.

[k_sw31]

Those 2/3A batts look like a great deal though...

[tOrcHed Lh]

now i'm actually pondering the idea of selling battery kits. ie. 6 or 7 cells with shrink wrap, mesh braid, 18 gauge wire, and tamiya or deans connector for $17 or so. you think people would be interested in that?

[tOrcHed Lh]

here is more a detailed run down:

each kit would include:
6 or 7 2/3A cells (your choice)
wire mesh braid
2/3A cell shrink wrap
18 gauge wire
deans or hpi connector (optional for extra $$)
heatshrink for the solder joints

each kit would be enough to make one "pack". only thing that's required is soldering/assembly. i was thinking $15 or so 6 cells and $1 more for 7 cells. let me know if you guys would buy these. thanks

[trxstr1961]

could u do a 5 cell pack?? if so, how much for a pre made one with hpi connectors??

[tOrcHed Lh]

$14 for 5 cells. i will sell the hpi connectors at cost for $5 as i can not buy them in bulk to save any money....

[Rookie Solara]

This is my micro, and I think I have to stop spending money on this little sucker.........I thought this is suppose to be cheap....

Spec:

HPI rear ball diff..........
GH front adjustable ball diff...........
HPI front 1-way (optional)
HPI steel universal
HPI front dogbone cups
ARM cheap chassis
Futaba micro servo (like 10 years old)
HPI front shock kit
Big Block 300 motor w/plate
HPI metal gears 9T-11T (most of the time use 9T)
Novak Spy ESC
TRC Pink (soft) rear foam tires
Team Orion Orange (medium) front foam tires
TRC magenta (hard) front foam tires
Some old 40mhz futaba receiver (10 years old as well)
750mah AAA 7 cells batteries from GP
1850mah AA 6 cells batteries from Energizer
1100mah 2/3A Ni-mh 6 cells batteries from............china
600mah 2/3A Ni-Cd 6 cells batteries from Sanyo match.

http://users.rcn.com/arsa/micro/P0003826.jpg

http://users.rcn.com/arsa/micro/P0003827.jpg

http://users.rcn.com/arsa/micro/P0003829.jpg

[trxstr1961]

I enjoy my micro just stock,with a couple hop ups in the front cvd's,steering arms, and front diff

so, $20 for each assembled pack,right :confused:

[InspGadgt]

Well I got a call from AE today about my ESC I sent in for repair. Unfortunately it can't be repaired but I'm getting a replacement eSC for only $63 :) Not bad...not bad at all :)

[mochunk]

Originally posted by Temjin006
Which of these ESC is good:

Novak Spy

LRP Quantum w/ Reverse or Micro

Team Orion Flash

I am under major budget and dont want to spend too much money. I am building the entire car from upgrades such as pan chassis and the whole drivetrain.

I may have a deal you'd be interested in. I have like 80% of a rolling chassis, front ball diff, dogbones, Spy, wattage 370 with gh plate and already modded motor pod that fits 8t pinion. (cleanly at that). And the chassis is penguin 3500lm.

I don't know if it's cool to advert. stuff in here, so if you are interested, lemme know and I'll pm you an email addy. Will save you cash, trust me. Ask anyone around here that's also on yourmicro (down right now :( They probably know my setup.

Troll

[g12314]

Troll,

I might be interested in the above setup. Can you send me details?

Thanks,
Jimmy

PS - I'm local (Chicago), but grew up in Wheaton.

[salito123]

has anyone ever tried this?



This is my new pet project, i should have it completed by this weekend, still truing to figure out how i'm going to fit 4 or 6 sub c's in here, i will be adding an upper deck for the electronics so that wont be a problem

comments welcomed

[Cube]

Very nice 540 conversion, did you make that motor mount? what chassis is that?

I want one!

[salito123]

the chassis is custom, got it off of ebay, nice work too...

and yeah, i made the motorplate myself also... from fiberglass, it was no sweat

[k_sw31]

Sweet dude! :D

I'd think traction might be a problem, but then again you have all the weight there :)

Let us know how it goes :D

I have heard of some one converting a stock chassis 4wd micro to a P-94 though, I cant get a site unfortunatly...

[mpower7477]

Originally posted by Rookie Solara
This is my micro, and I think I have to stop spending money on this little sucker.........I thought this is suppose to be cheap....

Spec:

HPI rear ball diff..........
GH front adjustable ball diff...........
HPI front 1-way (optional)
HPI steel universal
HPI front dogbone cups
ARM cheap chassis
Futaba micro servo (like 10 years old)
HPI front shock kit
Big Block 300 motor w/plate
HPI metal gears 9T-11T (most of the time use 9T)
Novak Spy ESC
TRC Pink (soft) rear foam tires
Team Orion Orange (medium) front foam tires
TRC magenta (hard) front foam tires
Some old 40mhz futaba receiver (10 years old as well)
750mah AAA 7 cells batteries from GP
1850mah AA 6 cells batteries from Energizer
1100mah 2/3A Ni-mh 6 cells batteries from............china
600mah 2/3A Ni-Cd 6 cells batteries from Sanyo match.

[IMG]http://users.rcn.com/arsa/micro/P0003826.jpg[IMG]

[IMG]http://users.rcn.com/arsa/micro/P0003827.jpg[IMG]

[IMG]http://users.rcn.com/arsa/micro/P0003829.jpg[IMG]
Nice car man. Do you race at So Cal in southern California BTW? I have seen a car very similar to yours there if it wasnt yours.

[Rookie Solara]

Originally posted by mpower7477
Nice car man. Do you race at So Cal in southern California BTW? I have seen a car very similar to yours there if it wasnt yours.

Thanks, and NO, I am located in Chicago, and I've got this car thru someone here in RCzone......so far this low budget chassis/300 motor setup gave me more then enough power to compete with those with EXO/Ratzas chassis......and those ball diff/1-way thing are standard upgrade, cause the stock one just won't last too long if you are runnign Big Block.

One piece of advise, try AAA batteries, they ran as good as my 1100 2/3A, but lighter and faster.........just shorter time (average 6.5 minutes instead of 8 minutes with 300 motors and 11T)

I am sure I can do 8 on 10T and 9 minutes on 9T....

[BobT]

Originally posted by Rookie Solara
One piece of advise, try AAA batteries, they ran as good as my 1100 2/3A, but lighter and faster.........just shorter time (average 6.5 minutes instead of 8 minutes with 300 motors and 11T)

I am sure I can do 8 on 10T and 9 minutes on 9T....

Thanks for the advice. I've often wondered if AAA cells were a good option for those running in tight ruled stock classes. I always had AA nicads and Nimh cells so I never invested in the AAAs.

My belief was that they would have an advantage over AA cells being much lighter. But somewhere in one of these threads I read that AAAs did not have enough punch. Could be they were referring to alkaline cells which I don't think can provide the amperage needs of these cars.


Thanks again. By the way the name Rookie must be a misnomer.
:cool:

[torchedlh]

here are some pics of my micro
http://pic4.picturetrail.com/VOL61/959237/1877088/22383346.jpg

another

http://pic4.picturetrail.com/VOL61/959237/1877088/22383362.jpg

and my track

http://pic4.picturetrail.com/VOL61/959237/1877088/22554129.jpg


as you guys can see i ended up getting a spy....got it used for $35. however the reverse and brake dont' work so i'll have to send it in and get a remanufactured unit from Novak. I believe that costs $30 or so, but the guy who sold me the ESC has refunded me $25.

[mpower7477]

Originally posted by torchedlh
here are some pics of my micro
[IMG]http://pic4.picturetrail.com/VOL61/959237/1877088/22383346.jpg[IMG]

another

[IMG]http://pic4.picturetrail.com/VOL61/959237/1877088/22383362.jpg[IMG]

and my track

[IMG]http://pic4.picturetrail.com/VOL61/959237/1877088/22554129.jpg[IMG]


as you guys can see i ended up getting a spy....got it used for $35. however the reverse and brake dont' work so i'll have to send it in and get a remanufactured unit from Novak. I believe that costs $30 or so, but the guy who sold me the ESC has refunded me $25.
cool track man. I might be building an oval track in my backyard for my micro

[k_sw31]

salito123- Hey, you got an update on your 540 conversion? I'd love a pic or two more :)

[gometro333]

Torchedlh, so after buying that EXO chassis you didn't have the money to buy tires?

[super_maxx]

heres some pics of my micro

[super_maxx]

mores pics...last one..LOl

[Rookie Solara]

Nice chassis/car, but FOCUS please...............

[Sebring]

Anyone tried running an 8 cell AA pack in their car? It's awesome, even with the stock motor. I cruised down to Wal*Mart and picked up a New Bright 8 cell 9.6 volt pack for 14 bucks, and it's 1400MAH, so you can't really beat that sort of price. It fit under my Stratus body nicely, and didn't add too much weight to the car. But my biggest surprise came when I hit the gas--wow. I really suggest trying it.

[salito123]

Actually, I had to puy it off since I thought i had an esc that could match the 13 turn motor that i puy on it, i could have sworn I had a novak fusion somewhere in my house, but how i cant find it. I will have to get a 20 turn motor or more in order to use the esc that i currently have on my regular micro. so far so good though almost all the otehr electronics are coming around good, hopefully i will have pictures sometime this week. by the way if you guys really wanna see some cool albeit sick, check out the following link.........

http://www.yourmicro.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=6687

[k_sw31]

Looks great :D

[super_maxx]

is that better

[trxstr1961]

if your still wanting that esc, email me your addy to me at:trx1@yahoo.com

[Temjin006]

Hey!

Anyone know where i can get my hands on a lrp quantum reverse/ micro or novak spy for a cheaper price.

[NITRO 187]

Hey Rookie when I get my ESC back Ill be joining you and Jim C,but until then heres a pic for you to drool over;) ;)

[Blacken]

hey i just got a speed 300 for 4.99 . will my novak spy work with it or will i blow the spy.

[Rookie Solara]

Originally posted by Blacken
hey i just got a speed 300 for 4.99 . will my novak spy work with it or will i blow the spy.

For $5....where? I would love to get some for $5...

Besides, ESC will not blow the motor or the motor will not blows the ESC......however, if you drop more then 6 cells in between these 2, your risk is higher.......(if that happen, usually you will blow the motor first, cause most ESC can stand 4-8 cells nowaday)

[Rookie Solara]

Originally posted by NITRO 187
Hey Rookie when I get my ESC back Ill be joining you and Jim C,but until then heres a pic for you to drool over;) ;)

Oh please....ALL SHOW and NO GO (no esc to go....hee hee)

NICE body, really, I like it.....hope you can join us next week, JIM is kinda bored in D-main all the time racing against those RTR in distruction durby Micro competition....:D

[JIM C.]

its more like the e main.

[NITRO 187]

Yeah Rookie it is all show and no go for now, who knows how long Novak will take to send me a new ESC:rolleyes:

[k_sw31]

A note on novak customer service-

Novak has awesome customer service, and they get stuff back to you asap :D I sent three escs in for remanufacturing, and had all three back in two weeks flat (including shipping time) :D

[Rookie Solara]

Yeah, I am sure NOVAK should do a good job on customer service, they are one of the biggest RC mfr that sell products world wide.....

But again, all you have to do now is pull your micro with your MINI-Z.....that might work. (or drop your Micro body over your mini-z and ran......:D )

[Grizzbob]

Actually, Rookie, you'd be surprised at the number of big companies that have TERRIBLE customer service, so we should be thankful that Novak still cares about their customers enough to do the job right & do it quickly(& being an electronics technician myself, I have a good idea of what it's like to try to fulfill customer work orders. In my case, it's dealing with the major airlines, & you think we racers can get nasty....):cool:

[CoryL]

Hey Ive got a couple Micro RS4's and can't race. My local track got shut down. I live in NW Ohio and I was wondering if anyone Knows of a track around this area. I'm about ready to sell my cars. Its nofun having a car and not driving it.

Can you run Lithium Ion Batts in a micro?
If so How do you charge them?

[Blacken]

Originally posted by Rookie Solara
For $5....where? I would love to get some for $5...

Besides, ESC will not blow the motor or the motor will not blows the ESC......however, if you drop more then 6 cells in between these 2, your risk is higher.......(if that happen, usually you will blow the motor first, cause most ESC can stand 4-8 cells nowaday)


i work at my local hobby shop (discount) :D

hey where can i get an aluminum front pully and whick one way should i get?

[k_sw31]

I have no clue why you'd need an al. pulley, your best off with a delrin one, and I think megatec offers them. :)

[MOMO1]

Does anyone know the size and where I can find the small ball bearings that replace the belt guide/tensioner? The part number for the stock washer is Z275c and it's located on tree 73403(8).

Thanks in advance,

Momo1

[Blacken]

hey i think i may buy the quantom esc. my question is what do i need to use in the form of capacitors?

[Jerkorz]

CoreyL... I also live in NW Ohio, near Toledo Hospital, I have a micro that I am currently modifying. I would be interested in meeting up somewhere to race if we can find a few more people. Let me know what you think. Jeremy

[torchedlh]

Originally posted by gometro333
Torchedlh, so after buying that EXO chassis you didn't have the money to buy tires?

na, it just drifts better without em. :p

infact i am in grave need in some better tires. the stock tires aren't cutting it anymore. i run on dusty cement/concrete and i want to get an array of tires...this is what i'm thinking. team orion soft rear foams, soft front foams, med front foams, and hpi soft rear rubbers.

o and here's a updated pic of my micro. i reconfigured the pack to what i was orginally going to do.

[CoryL]

Originally posted by Jerkorz
CoreyL... I also live in NW Ohio, near Toledo Hospital, I have a micro that I am currently modifying. I would be interested in meeting up somewhere to race if we can find a few more people. Let me know what you think. Jeremy

Sounds good. I might be moving to Toledo soon if a Job leed pays off. Right now I live in Defiance. My cars (basically stock) are for sale on here. I might have to keep one now.

[Yakuza]

i just got my micro i was wondering what is the frist thing i sould upgrade on the car that dont cost more than 30 buks can anyone one help0 me out

[torchedlh]

6 cell battery packs, speed 300, and pan chassiss. those should be your first 3 upgrades.

[Clan O'Riley]

Hey coryl my grandma lives in defiance and im thinking about racing there. is that track a good one that phils hobby shop built? also what classes are there? i basicly have a stock micro but plan on hopping it up. what things do u recommend? :confused:

[Grizzbob]

Yakuza, you'll likely get a number of different answers, but for racing, I think the HPI rear ball diff could be the single best upgrade you can make in that price range. It'll make your car SO much smoother through corners you'll wonder how you got by without it(& I've driven cars set up identically, one with the original gear diff & one with the ball diff, the difference was night & day)....:)

[Clan O'Riley]

i was wondering if i buy the ARM chassis if i could still use regular bodies or if i would have to buy one of the ARM bodies. i dont really see a body from them i like.

[Temjin006]

can anyone tell me if the elite modified requires a special pinion gear since the shaft is much shorter? Also, how come it doesnt come with a standard HPI micro plug on it

[Yakuza]

i was wondering what chager can charge the micro batters with the small plug?? im planing to buy // make my own battery pack any one help me out thnx

[evaderstrules]

don't know if u guys have answered this but is there any word on an offroad mini rs4. a kewl name for it would be mini rs4mt if they made it like a regular rs4 mt tnx in advanced

[k_sw31]

I haven't heard of anything, but chances are, something is in the works, since koyosho released the overland.

[evaderstrules]

ok thanks that whould be sweet though a mini rs4 mt that looks just like the 1/10 rs4 mt

[Grizzbob]

Yakuza, if you're gonna build your own packs, then it'd be simple to add a couple of solder tabs to the pack(one on the positive end of a cell, one & the negative of another), & just hard wire your ESC wires to it. In doing so, you will also have something simple for the alligator clips of most chargers to clamp onto for charging. But if you really prefer to use the HPI plugs, then just use the HPI to Tamiya connector adapter to give you something to clip onto(that's how I do it, the chargers clips latch onto the Tamiya connectors contacts, & the other end mates to the battery pack's connector)...:cool:

[Yakuza]

thnx grizzbob

what is a better esc the spy or flash? and what is the better upgrade chassis the Ratzas Rat Racer Chassis or the Ratzas Rat Racer Pro Pan Chassis im not a harcore racer so i dont need the teamepic ones or the really expnsive ones i just race with a group of my friends. thnx in advance

[Blacken]

here are some pics

[Blacken]

chassis shoto

[torchedlh]

Originally posted by Yakuza
thnx grizzbob

what is a better esc the spy or flash? and what is the better upgrade chassis the Ratzas Rat Racer Chassis or the Ratzas Rat Racer Pro Pan Chassis im not a harcore racer so i dont need the teamepic ones or the really expnsive ones i just race with a group of my friends. thnx in advance

spy is much better. it can handle a speed 300 (TO BB) and the flash can't. and novak also has a great replacement/warranty program.

for your chassis, any pan chassis will be a large improvement. so i'd go with the ratzas pro pan or even the ARM.

[Yakuza]

can you give me the website for ARM chassis thnx

[mistercrash]

The website for ARM is

http://www.americanracingmodels.com/

[Rookie Solara]

Originally posted by Yakuza
can you give me the website for ARM chassis thnx

http://www.microrcstore.com/

Try the above store, excellent customer service and choices, and very good price........items from chassis to foam tires.......almost like ONE stop hobby shop..........for MICRO.

For me, the ARM ($12) chassis is more then enough for MICRO...along with 6 cells 1100 mah batt($20). Novak SPY($50), a micro servo from Hi-tec($25), foam tires($16), front/rear ball-diff($50), metal gears($4x3) and the Speed 300 motor w/mounting plate($20) are all you need..........but if you want to take full advantage of that, buy the parts (around $40-50) and build your own MICRO.......it is not going to be cheaper, but you won't have a lot of UNUSE plastic laying around that you will never use from the stock kit.

[Yakuza]

im planing to get the ratzas chassis cuz its carbonfiber and not fiberglass iv alrady order the spy esc but the ratzas chassis on the website is on back order..... or well ill get it when they get more

[MMTM]

Its been a while since I've posted here so I though I would show my current setup.

ARM pan
Flash ESC
Elite stock motor
5 cell brick saddle
TO pre-mount foams
micro servo
tie-rod link steering
ARM Porsche GT1

and here are some pics:

first body off (old pic w/ kit tires)
http://www.knology.net/~MonsterPirate/images/race2.JPG
and the current shots
http://www.knology.net/~MonsterPirate/images/por5.jpg

http://www.knology.net/~MonsterPirate/images/por6.jpg

http://www.knology.net/~MonsterPirate/images/por8.jpg

[jkerr0043]

Hey guys,
I'm selling my Micro. It's on e bay. Email me and I'll get you the details. jkerr0043@cox.net.

[mistercrash]

Hi
I made a nice drawing of a chassis for a micro RS4. It's a pan chassis in which I integrated stuff I liked from other chassis' on the market. Up to now, I only tried it on carpet and it is pretty amazing. If you want to make one for yourself, just print the images below, the drawings will come out in scale dimensions. You just glue the drawing on whatever material you want to use and follow the lines with whatever tools you want to use. Then use your existing chassis to make the screw holes accuretly.

Enjoy, it's free

http://www.cth2000.com/_image_mod/final_plan_micro_chassis.jpg

http://www.cth2000.com/_image_mod/final_plan_micro_chassis_parts.jpg

[Yakuza]

i need some help i lost the screws that hold the motor to the car the 2 black screws i was wonder what they are called and where i can buy them at thnx

[Rookie Solara]

I need help from you all electrical guys.......I need to get some batteries for my Micro....6 cells 2/3A size....I used some of those from the internet before (www.batterystation.com) green colored 2/3A 1100 mah Ni-Mh batteries....however, after 4-5 day of racing, I can tell ALL of them are getting out of shape....I charged them only between 1-1.5 amps.....so I didn't abused those batteries, but the quality of those batteries really disappointed me....

So now.....do you guys thing Ni-Cd should be the one that I should try now....? I saw them on Towers, and they are from SANYO (also with neon green colored insulation package).......are those any good...?

I would like to listen to experience racer....any idea, and any opinon would be greatly appreciated....cause the rest of the A-main guys are way faster on their MICRO (all big-block or 300 motors with 12 plus gears) but on top of that, they can last full 8 minutes without slowing down.....why is that..?

Also, do you guys thing it is not the battery, it is the CHARGER..? How can I tell the battery packs that I have is still good..? By the Voltage or amps...?

THanks.............

[torchedlh]

i have 3 6 cell packs of those exact same batteries. i've only ran them about 2-3 time and haven't noticed any problems, however i'im not exactly a seasoned racer with a lot of knowledge about electric cars (this is my first electric and i've only had it for about 1 month).

BTW i'm charging these at 1amp with a 30mv peak threshold cut off on my superbrain.

if you want some really nice cells, check out http://www.promatchracing.com/rs4.htm. prematched and zapped for only $3 each. which is a great price for these cells. i've heard great things about these as well as nexcells, and helcells.

[Grizzbob]

Yup, I have one of ProMatch's 6 cell packs in mine, & it ROCKS! We only run the stock motors here, so when you have more battery than the others it's noticable, & EVERYONE can tell when I've got the ProMatch pack in(I have a Team Orion pack that's good, too, but it's not quite as strong as the ProMatch). I STRONGLY recommend you try one, it's definitely worth it....:D

[Rookie Solara]

Thanks guys...however, on their page....SINGLE is $2.99 and pack of 6 is $26.99.........why are the 6 packs more expensive...? Does that come with pre-assmebled..with plugs and all wrapped?

Thanks....

[Grizzbob]

Yes, their packs come completely assembled with wires & a Deans mini plug installed, all ready to roll if you already use those plugs(& it's easy enough to switch to the HPI plugs if you like)...:)

[MAXX 2.5]

would ne one be interested in buying matched cells for your micro??? how much would you pay for them????? would you want aa ors aaa??? lmk plz

[minijosh]

I am getting ready to buy a micro rs4 and you answered alot of my questions guys. thanks alot. i would be interested in your battery packs. pm me ok.

[trxstr1961]

my micro batts r shorting out, and getting hot. if i wrap each cell in black tape, would that solve the prob:confused:

[minijosh]

What esc can handle any turn motor? How do you rate the motors like a 45 turn? Will a Spy run the hot motors? I am looking to run the 5 or 6 cell packs too. I would like help before I charge the credit card and get the wrong stuff.
So I am looking at getting a micro duh, maybe a coreless motor or the 45 turn, and 5 cell packs. Which esc now? Help me out.

[torchedlh]

wrapping the cells in electrical tape wont' keep them from getting hot, but it will keep them from shorting out.

well micro motors aren't rated in "turns", only sizes. the stock motor is 280. all the escs can handle those. you're probably going to want to get a speed 300 (team orion big block). those are size 300. all 1/10 speed controls as well as novak spys can handle those. i'm not sure about the TO flash.

i recommend the novak spy. it's cheap, small, can handle 6 cells and a speed 300. this is the setup i suggest for pretty good speed. this will yield 20 min run times or so, if you're looking for longer, you can get a team orion elite mod, which are size 180 but a hell of a lot faster (and more expesnive at $40).

[minijosh]

I was looking at getting the futaba mc230cr esc. it will do motors down to 20 turns but I guess that doesn't matter. Tower says it can run 6 or 7 cells. Doesn't the micro start with 4 cells in the pack? Will this hurt a esc or damage it somehow? I know stupid questions but I wanna know. Thanks for posting answers too.

[minijosh]

will the spy run that elite mod motor? what do you use?

[torchedlh]

the futaba MC230CR is a great ESC. it's not that small, but it can handle any micro motor as well as popluar 1/10 motors if you ever get into 1/10 electric in the future.

yes, if you use more or less than cells than what ESCs are rated for, the ESC WILL GET DAMAGED.

my setup is a novak spy, speed 300, and custom 6 cell packs. i get about 20 minute run times with top speeds at maybe 30mph max.

yes, ALL micro and 1/10 ESCs will run the elite mod. it's only a few of the micro ESCs that can't run the big blocks (speed 300).

i say get the spy becasue it's very small and can handle packs as low as 4 cells. but if you ever plan to run 1/10, you might save yourself some money in the long run if you buy a 1/10 ESC of the bat.

[minijosh]

I do race 1/10 scale and I have a lrp runner and a IPC digital sport pro. I don't wanna use either of those in the micro. They have power pole hook-ups. I didn't think the spy could handle the big micro motors. Funny big micro hehe. I have been trying to find a radio/esc combo to keep the cost down if possible. I like the rtr set up but it is for only stock motors plus I wanna build the kit myself. So does the spy come in any package you've seen? I cannot find anyone that has one. I can use my regular charger for the batteries when I move up. It is a good one made by Duratrax so no worries there. I wish Duratrax had the micro cars on their simulator. That would be wicked. I bet ya 5 bucks they come out with their own version. So the spy can handle all of the micro motors? Will a stock esc handle any of them too? More questions.

[minijosh]

what about this motor? Team Orion Elite Micro Modified (Coreless)
What esc can handle this? Coreless means no worries about brushes plus it will run forever. Look at the Efficiency: 87%. All the other motors look like this.
Graupner Speed 300 Max Efficiency: 65%
Speedster 300 Motor Set #1 Max Efficiency: 65%
What about Spy's micro mod motor?
I did find one bad thing about the Spy. Motor Limit: 280 Size Micro RS4 Motors

[torchedlh]

yes spy's can handle any drop in micro motor. 280 and 300. they will take TO big blocks (speed 300), and elite mods w/out compromising their warranty.

the stock esc can handle size 280 motors only. the elite mod is a 280 so the stocker can handle it.

i'd go with a speed 300, novak spy, and 6 cel pack.

[minijosh]

what is the coreless? 300 or 280? if it is 280 then i will go with the futaba but if it is 300 the the spy sounds like the winner.

[torchedlh]

the coreless is the eilte mod. it's size 280. Both of these escs can handle both speed 300s and the elite mods.

[minijosh]

here is what I am looking at.
http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXASX4A1&P=K
it is in my shopping cart right now. Why should I spend the extra $$$ on the spy when this controller comes the the esc? The bad part is that it only does 6-7 cells. Has anyone found a esc that can take 9.6 volts? Take Tyco batteries and rig them to the rs4? I am now looking at esc that can handle battery packs like that. I already own the associtated runner and it can handle 4-7 cells. This esc will be able to handle any micro motor correct?

[minijosh]

do you run nicads or nimhs? i know for 1/10 cars the nicads had more punch but the runtime with the nimhs is outstanding. glad to see you are answering all my questions. trinity has a micro car on the tower website. they don't have any info on their own though. nice one. looks like I like these batteries. Team Orion Supercharge 1200mAh 7.2 Volt Micro Pack. 6 cells full of juice. I had 4 Peak Racing batteries but three packs died on me. I know it isn't me or my charger either. I don't like them. Have you tried them? A friend had them too and the same thing happened to him.

[minijosh]

ok one more post for the night. will HPI Micro Pro Control/Connector Holder Set work with the mod motors?

[duanewho]

If you are looking at the Futaba radio package, you should get the 2PHKA radio instead. Tower has it on sale for the same price as the 2PH, and the 2PHKA adds dual rates and throttle/brake end point adjustment. The throttle end point is handy if you are running inside and you find the car is too fast for the space on hand, you can turn the top end down so it is easier to handle.

http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LB1138**


I have been running this setup for a while with a stock motor and 4 cells. Someone mentioned you could damage the ESC running it on 4 cells, is that true? I haven't had any problems, I would hate to have to buy a new esc for a car I just bash around the basement ;)

[torchedlh]

there are plenty of ESCs that will take 9.6 volts.. low end ones include ESCs like mtroniks and GM

or you could get something like a quantum sport.

i run nimh because they have better capacity than nicads and wont' develop a "memory" like nicads do. i solder my own packs together for my motek chassis.

i'm quite sure what you mean by "HPI Micro Pro Control/Connector Holder Set "

if you're talking about the stock HPI ESC, then yes, it will run the elite mod with no problems.

i agree with duanewho, for $80 that's a steal. the phka usually retails for $70 without the ESC. so i'd go with that deal.

[minijosh]

thanks alot both of you. I will change my cart. Looks like I will be joining you guys very soon.

[microrcdude]

Check this out!!!

[microrcdude]

My dads dream micro

[microrcdude]

My Brothers Dream Micro (about to become reality.He doesn't know)

[microrcdude]

Originally posted by microrcdude
Check this out!!! With this $50.00 upgrade, changing the ride height is easy!!!

[Yakuza]

i got the arm pan chassis its kinda big i sticks out of the side of my skyline sould i shave it off or not and what is the drill bit to use to drill the holes so i can put a 140mm body on it thnx

[Blacken]

hey guys i got a question. i have a micro with a peak chubby 6 cells and a 14 tooth pinion. how can i make my micro handle the power. it has way to much acceleration

[microrcdude]

Put some soft foam tires all around the car. Put a stiff rear spring in. This set-up will make your car control the accelleration

[Blacken]

i allready have soft crc foams alll the way around. i tried my stiffest spring combo in the rear. it helped a bit but it is still a handful:p

[Grizzbob]

Well, I hate to tell you this but you're just not gonna make a Micro handle something with that kind of power stick like you want. It's the same as with using brushless motors in bigger cars, creates such an extreme power to weight ratio that "twitchy" is about the best you can expect. Remember, micros weren't exactly designed with those 300 size motors in mind(like Orion's Big Block & Peak's Chubby), being nearly totally out of control just goes with the territory....:cool:

[minijosh]

Will the brushless motors do the same for the micros? They have more power than the regular 280 motors.

[metalry101]

So what kind of setup would you guys suggest for a Micro that would be running a Speed 400 conversion and 8 cells? I'm thinking it'll be all but uncontrollable, but oh well. Anyways, obviously better front universals (steel or aluminum?), alum. knuckles, alum steering plate, front one way, alum pulley, etc. Anything else I need? Obviously a different chassis. Any suggestions? I've heard good things about the Ratzaz (?), but the ARM one looks good too.

[duanewho]

You may want to try an ESC that has adjustable profiles. That way you can dial out some of the low rpm power to make it a little more controllable. The bigger motors work best if you have a lot of room to drive in (i.e. parking lot or a larger track, like a 1/12 carpet track). If you are running in a small area those motors pack a little too much power to be useful. If you have a radio with throttle endpoint adjustment you can also dial that down when you don't have much room, then dial it back up when you are in a larger area.

Duane

[trxstr1961]

MAN!! talk about extrtemes! this is taking the micro to a whole new dimension! :D

[microrcdude]

You may want to buy a high-downforce body. You can also gear down

[Grizzbob]

Or just buy a bigger car that can put that kind of power down....lol:p

[metalry101]

Ya, I plan on running an XR2 in the Micro, so I'll have to educate myself on the EPA adjustments. Also, I'll definately need a lot of room. I'm thinking I'll probably also buy a slower motor just to run when I don't have the room, and then I'll get huge runtime too. I like the Elite Mod, but I don't wanna spend 50 bones on something I'm not gonna be runnin that much. Any other suggestions? And as for gearing down, it would only make it worse, cuz it would cut the top speed, but it's already gonna have insane amounts of torque, and gearing down is just gonna give it more, so less speed, but more wheelspin, If I geared it higher and just went easy on the throttle, the tires wouldn't spin as much.

And Grizzbob~ Totally agreed, I've got an E-Maxx and a TB Evo II as well.

[minijosh]

I just won a auction on ebay. NIB Viper for 82 bucks. My total was about 92 with shipping. I beat towers prices hehe. Now if I can only get that coreless motor for 15 bucks.

[egdinger]

is there a brushless motor that fits in the micro?

[microrcdude]

I will soon sell compitition race motors!!!! (They are still in testing)

[minijosh]

There are 2 brushless motors so far. One is a Team Orion and the other is a Peak Racing. Tower sells peak but microRCstore sells both I think.

[slaf]

Hi all

I have a stock Micro RS4 with a Spy ESC and I plan to convert my car into a Monster truck. I have 2 sets of my old Radio Shack tires I can "fit" on RS4 rims. I have quickly looked and the only thing I have to do on my car is to remove the front bumper and put my big wheel....But what about gear ratio, cvd's...?

Do you know a web site talking about converting a Micro RS4 into a MT ? Or do you ever tried this ???

[metalry101]

I believe you're refering to the coreless motors made by Peak and Orion, not brushless. Brushless is completely different and requires a special controller. However, Rum Runner Hobbies does carry some Lehner BL motors that would fit in a micro. I think they have some that are the 300 size, so the 300 motor plate would be needed. Also, most BL systems work better on more cells, at least from what I've heard from all the people that have them in larger cars. And, even the cheapest BL systems are ridiculously expensive.

[egdinger]

thanks but what about the hacker 18 seris i think they are, they are comomly used in micro heli's. I also have one of those so i would just want one motor. and yes i was talking about brush less not coreless.

[minijosh]

but I was talking about coreless motors not brushless. my misunderstoodnessingly.

[minijosh]

but I was talking about coreless motors not brushless. my misunderstoodnessingly.

[egdinger]

thats ok minijosh but wha about those hacker motors

[minijosh]

you have to buy their speed control and motor together. they come as a assembly I think. don't correct me if I am wrong. I don't think they make a size for the micro YET.

[egdinger]

you don't have to buy the motor with there speed controlers, and there is a 300 sized brushless motor from hacker, i know because thats what my micro heli runs and alot of people run the hackers in those.

[MMTM]

There are a couple guys on the yourmicro.com forums that have just received their brushless setups from Rumrunners RC and they have been quite impressed. Where I race the track is not very big so I have no need for major speed like that. I also run in a super stock class so that motor would definatly bump me out. Check out the threads at yourmicro and you'll get some good info on what everything costs, setup, and performance.

On a side note, here is an update of my racer.

With the brand new body
http://www.knology.net/~MonsterPirate/images/por7.jpg

http://www.knology.net/~MonsterPirate/images/por8.jpg

and in racing trim
http://www.knology.net/~MonsterPirate/images/race7.JPG

http://www.knology.net/~MonsterPirate/images/race8.JPG

[metalry101]

Nice micro. By the way, what year is your Jeep? Looks like a YJ to me, but maybe not.

[ProjectTwin]

My Micro...

http://www.projecttwin.com/images/micro/b1.jpg

http://www.projecttwin.com/images/micro/b2.jpg

http://www.projecttwin.com/images/micro/c1.jpg

http://www.projecttwin.com/images/micro/c2.jpg

http://www.projecttwin.com/images/micro/c3.jpg

http://www.projecttwin.com/images/micro/weight.jpg

Soldering up the batteries now...

What do you think MMTM, will I traction roll again? :p

[ProjectTwin]

Forgot...here's the specs

RatZas Extreme Graphite Chassis kit
RatZas Rear VCS Shock kit and Graphite Deck
Dynamite Delrin Ball Diff and axle assembly
Team Orion Elite Mod motor
140mm Honda NSX body painted in Pearl Blue Metal paint
HPI High Performance front and rear rubber
Hobbico CS12 High Speed BB Micro Servo
Team Orion 13t Pinion
HPI Heat Sink Motor Mount
HPI Ti antenna kit
Orion 1100mAh 5-cell pack with Orion Bones battery bars
HPI Pro Control ESC
Airtronics 3ch FM RX
Multiplex Profi 403

[MMTM]

LMAO!!! I guess a little track time got you thinking..... and spending! LOL

Very nice setup you put together over the weekend. I think you should be spending a lot more time wheels down next time out. Slap a stock motor in that thing and you can race in the Super Stock class with me :D

All you guys getting these nice chassis' got me wanting to upgrade to a "better" chassis.

[ProjectTwin]

I ended up getting rid of some extra stuff and bought the rolling chassis from James. I've had the battery laying here from the first micro, along with a big block. I never used either of them so I broke the battery up into a 2-3 layout and put it in the chassis. The only things I had to buy were the Ti antenna kit and battery bars.

Racing Micros is the most fun I've had in a loooong time. Run times are great, the lil' boogers are durable, there's no tuning issues as with nitro, and no clean-up mess either.

I only wish the track was bigger...

[MMTM]

BTW, its an 87 YJ

[MMTM]

Here are some shots of whats inside my racer. I had not taken any recent shots w/ the body off so here is what it looks like now after just a little work this evening.

http://www.knology.net/~MonsterPirate/images/race9.jpg

http://www.knology.net/~MonsterPirate/images/race10.JPG

And the specs:
ARM chassis
Blind 5 cell saddle pack
Hobbico CS35 micro servo
Tie-rod link steering
Orion Flash
Orion Elite stock motor (11t)
Orion foams (hard front, med rear)
JR 756 radio

and the rest is pretty much stock.

[minijosh]

I just got my viper today in the mail. So far, it is a breeze to put together. I thought it would be harder. Oh well, time to get back to work on the viper at work hehe.

[Animeboy123]

Hey does anyone use the RatZas stuff on their Micro RS4???
If u do r they any good??



The Wadering Samurai ^_^x

[duanewho]

I was thinking of throwing together a few packs using 2/3a nimh cells. I was going to go 4 or 5 cells, I run two cars with my friends in the basement and they have more than enough speed on 4 cells. What charger would work with this sort of pack? I have a Duratrax Intellipeak Deluxe, I don't know if this charger will work with a 4 cell pack. Also, what is a good charge rate, and about how long could I expect it to take to fully charge?

Why did I buy that second car, everyone wants to play now and I haven't slept in days :D

[Animeboy123]

YAY i got my Micro today, i am going to start building it tonight. But the bad thing is that my LHS has to order my reciever and they wont have it in till next week :(. Oh well i guess i will put my old Futaba stuff in for now. Just thought i would let u all know ^_^x




The Wandering Samurai ^_^x

[NMT_RACER_BOY]

ttt
come on guys!
post pics, talk about stuff and post videos!

[KevanB]

Anyone here willing to trade a Mini-z skyline, extra tires, controller, 8 aaa rechargable batteries for a Rolling Chassis Micro RS4? I just want to get rid of the mini-z, and get a micro! They are so much cooler!