Team Losi XXXNT forum v6.0

[Got Speed]

MikeWz- Do you know about how much they are? #8s really arn't very cheap. Here they are $8. You may want to try getting another motor for the box and then trying it in the store.

ultramindbrk- If you just can't stand anything but purple and you want to spend the money you can get it powder coated purple.

[ultramindbrk]

Man you guys are awsome...another question..Anyone know if these work on the xxx-nt?
http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXAMS9&P=7

[Got Speed]

Yes you can put them on your NT but I would suggest RPMs long ball cups because they are a bit stronger IMO. I think they are a bit cheaper too.

[Racin Rev]

Thanks for the help on one of my questions, but now for the other:

Has anyone been able to pick up a mc59 anywhere lately? They are rare around here.

[Rog]

Hi guys, I'm back...with more problems. LOL! Anyone running Adam Drake's "The Dirt" setup? I figured this would be a great place to start and come to find out from a couple locals that his setup is kinda twitchy for most people. Is that so? I'm running this setup and the backend just feels like it wants to swing around on tight turns. The track I run it is fairly hard packed but with some loose (usually moist) dirt around. Also, my truck has "RTR" rear hubs. A guy at my LHS says the RTR hubs are not 1 degree but the ones that come in the Drake kit are. I just picked up some Trinity 1 degree hubs hoping it'll settle the rear end down a bit.

Here's a pic of my truck...
http://mywebpages.comcast.net/rbalingit/images/xxxnt_body.jpg

[maxman142001]

gotspeed-did you get pictures of the new track layout?

[offroadcrazy01]

Try the kinwald set up I think it works alot better your back end won't do that

[cave]

MikeWz did you buy it in a hobby shop or Online? Its got to be the motor of sumpthin more simple. Ive seen other models out there and Ofnas seem to be the ones that start us up quick. I'm typing about the Pink box. That suck that you have all thos probs with this box. Crappy customer service is going to hurt em. Maybe we can all Email them to try to help ya out huh?

cave

[Gord]

I'd like to purchase the Adam Drake edition, but I would like to put a pull start on it, is this possible? Or do I need to put different engine mounts and a new flywheel on it?
Thanks
Gord

[nuespeed]

My friend wants to get a XXXNT. One of my friends foes one's a RC10 gt the old tub style metal chassis all it has is a OS.12 motor with the Purple stinger exhaust. Well my friend wants to know if the team losi sport XXXNT is a good car to get? and can it beat the RC10gt. Also if my friend got a XXXNT adam drake can he use the pullstart or no. I know that you can use the Pull start with a reg XXXNt whats the differerences with the sport other than the Adam drake is Carbon Fibre/Graphite

[xxxOS12CVRnt]

The Drake Edition is set up for a bump start, the differences are:

--the exhaust header mounts the pipe lower

--the motor mounts do not have spacers that are required so that
the pull start will clear the chassis plate.

[xxxOS12CVRnt]

MikeWz-I've had good luck with the Dynamite 5610 using a 7.2 ah gelled ectrolyte battery.....

[nuespeed]

Is it bump or box starter

[nuespeed]

I know what a bumpstarter is it looks like a oversized dremel I also know the box so which one??

[Got Speed]

Racin Rev- My track and LHS almost always have them in stock.

maxman142001- I couldn't get any good pictures of the track layout becuase the flash didn't work very well for the whole track. I'll try and get some during the day next time.

cave- I went out and got the header and the stuff I needed to rebuild my diff. I'm really tempted to try that picco. I'm just afraid that it may be a pain to tune like those horror storries I've heard of picco carbs.

Gord- You will need to buy a header and possibly engine mounts.

nuespeed- You will need a different header and possibly engine mounts too. The header is low slung on to lower CG. It is right where the pull-start belongs. A bump start or starter box can be used. I have also seen people start with the bump start and boat flywheel and cable. I have used both the airplane starter and the starter box. The box is so much more convenient but you can use either. The box is more expensive but if you are racing it is a must to be able to start your truck right away.

[purplerides]

Got Speed you use the standard clutch nut with the Picco , the area that is 6mm is the area where the collet sits , the threads are the same as all the other motors , you have to use Picco's collet not Losi's , also the other you may have to do is cut about 1/4 inch or even a little less , because the thread section of the crank is a little to long and the clutch nut bottoms out just as it tightens the flywheel and if not trimmed a little the flywheel may come loose. other then the collet you use all stock losi parts. you have to buy the standard crank version not an sg shaft.

[purplerides]

Gord
to use a pullstart you have use spacers between the motor mounts and the motor , the spacers are in part #A9336 it also has mounts in it , you also need a pullstart header #A9321 i believe the drake comes with a non pullstart header.

[maxman142001]

gotspeed- Thanks. If it is not a big bore carb. have you thought about putting the carb. from your cv-r in the picco. I know that is what drake did with his picco except it was a rotary carb.? Just thought I would add my 2 cents.:)


Leland

[Got Speed]

Has anyone ever had problems with a turbo plug breaking the coil off and ruining your engine? I heard they are more fragile and can more easily break the coil. I don't want to have a bran-new fried engine, lol.

purplerides- Oh ok, that is why people say you only need the picco collet. Cutting the crank is no biggie. Ive had to cut several cranks. Thanks


maxman142001- I thought about that. If it is really hard to tune or picky I'll probably try it.

cave- Did tony have a hard time getting his flywheel fixed last saturday? I went to take the clutch nut off my CV-R with an allen wrench(so I didn't mess up my good tools) and it broke right off and twisted the end like a twizler. :eek: lol so now I need to grab it with pliers and use a piston locking tool :eek: I was going to get a Mugen this morning but it dosn't look like I'll be able to do it. I think I'm going to take that chance on that Turbo 7 port. Are you going to be racing next saturday?

Thanks

[cave]

Got Speed
Thats OK GS We cant all have Mugens.lol. Id like to see some other motors out there other than RB's , Mugens, Wasp's. I know 1 guy who has thatt Picco and he has the Siro also. I talked to him before I bought the Mugen He's the one who sold me on the Mugen. I cant remember his name. His buddy is the one who accually has the Mugen. His triple x nt was way to uncontrolable! Be warned. I wanted to get one of the thos Siro or Picco 5 or 7 ports and I watched this guy just spin everytime he got on the gas. He told me he bearly touched the trigger. He had to tune it as the weather changed. What a drag!!! He did this with both motors. I think he still has both but races with a Mugen. For that price you cant loose.
Tony got the flywheel to stay.lol Hes fast now too. I got to keep my mouth shut on these Mugens. I cant see a difference between the carbs. Hes fast too. We had a great race on Thursday. Francewah took 1st. Tony got second (Hacker) J/K He did give me every chance in the world to catch up. I still think the kid marshalling the tripple was against me. The Monsoon winds were there and that tripple was a launch pad for everyone. I could'nt get this truck to land on the track right side up. Too much wind.lol. Everytime I needed help where he was marshaling he would put me right in front of the wall (I meen Jump) I watched him through others over the hump but not me, Man If I was a kid again... :mad: J/K.:p . Tony did great. He got 2nd I settled for third. But I never gave up. That was the funnest race I, maybe we, have had yet. I'm racing tonight.
Got Speed. Good luck with your choice.

MikeWz & Jim, I'm Loving my Pool. After work Its the best unwind ever. 90° is nice and cool Jim. lol. Its that Wet Hot that gets me. I have a small lake behind my house and its allways humid here. 108° today with Humidity all the time cause the lake.:cool:. Guess you know what I mean huh. Mike when you graduate look into the SW area. I know your looking to go across the pond. It take time for the blood to thin enough to get used to the heat. Especially if your from a colder climate. hehehe.

maxman142001 You meen you dont like this dry heat LOL. You would like it more at SRS. Try it;. Beware tho The Surgen General has determined that RC racing is truly addictive and should be done at a safe distance from your wallet . :D
cave

[ultramindbrk]

Anyone know how to buy shock springs? I want some yellow ones,and there are several on the market..Ofna sells a set for $18 for 4.But then you can get some for the evader for only $3 for 2..Will any work? I know the manual says the stock red ones are 2.5" ,but that doesn't seem to help any...I am sorry I ask way to many questions..:rolleyes:

[ultramindbrk]

Nevermind..I found em..Took me a bit,but I did :)

[MikeWz]

Cave-Lol, move out there an race with you guys. That'd be pretty fun. I'm actually looking at taking a vaca out there with my new YZF-R1 :D. The only reason I wanted to take a hop across the pond is because of a girl that "Moved" there, but they're going to be coming back in about a year :D . That'd be really cool if you guys could e-mail Ofna. I need all the help I can get.

[number11]

ooops didn't mean to post here.

[ultramindbrk]

Hey..Anyone know the part number for the adam drake front bulkhead? I think it's aluminum isn't it? I am guessin it would be pretty dumb of me to replace mine with it if I didn't have a drake edition wouldn't it?

[jdm3849]

No, it's a graphite composite.

Not much stronger than stock stiffizel, but much stiffer.
It wouldn't be dumb to switch over.

[RCRACER2471]

Does anyone know the part # for the gas tank of the drake? Is it the same as the regular xnt? I want to get the newer tank and i really dont know which one im getting...

Also, i shredded up my idler gears inside the transmission and nothing else. Anyone know how that happened or could be prevented?

Thanx....

[Got Speed]

cave- Yea, Ive heard they are harder to tune than the Mugen but I don't see the Mugen as a really hard engine to tune. Ive heard they are alot easier to tune than the old ones so as long as I get out there and make sure everything is tuned right then I should do fine. I'll just have to get used to the tuning and how it drives. Lol the .98 hp, 32K RPM CV-R to the Picco 1.29hp 41K RPM engine. hehe I'll probably be all over. I'm going to see how much power I can put down. If I can't get it all down I'm going to gear up and get a few more MPHs off the straight. I hope it turns out well. Oh I forgot to give you those crystals you let me borrow last week. I'll give them to you next saturday. Tony and francewa were telling me about thursday. LOL they said you were trying to take them out. :p They suggested that we gang up on you and try and hack you out. lol Hopefully towards the end of the summer I'll get a Mugen to add to my collection too.

RCRACER2471- Do you have a metal diff gear? If so then your diff was probably to loose causing the heat to transfer to the idler. It could also be that there was a rock in there. Or that it just plain gave out from old age, lol.

[MikeWz]

GS-Check out ebay for an MT12. That turbo engine will give you some crazy high top-end, but you'll notice a significant loss in low-end. If you're dead set on the engine, talk to Maverick Racer and see if he'll port it for you, so you can get a bit more low-end

[RCRACER2471]

Originally posted by Got Speed
RCRACER2471- Do you have a metal diff gear? If so then your diff was probably to loose causing the heat to transfer to the idler. It could also be that there was a rock in there. Or that it just plain gave out from old age, lol.

Mines still stock and ive only had the car for a couple of months. Looks like there pieces of plastic chipped insdie that isnt a part of any of the gears...Thanx for the help though...

Someone has to have the drake here. Whats the part # for the tank??????

[Shady]

the # for the tank is the same, its a direct replacement

[winning edge designs]

Cave, the good thing about engines with too much power is they can be tuned. Things like a heavier flywheel, earlier clutch "hit" or engagement, slightly richer settings, throttle expo, etc. But you probably already knew that. I'd guess the guy with the "donut" problems had a stock clutch, lean carb settings and 0 exponential..probably old tires too? haha..............Funny thing is I often see racers working on thier shocks, but with badly worn tires on thier Trucks, wondering why they can't get it to work well. The reason for my ranting?.......Just today I was stunned to hear a guy complaining about his XXX-NT having no traction. I gave him some rear tires from my spares box and he was stunned to see the tires made a MUCH better improvement then any adjustments to the suspension did.................:)!....Jim

[cave]

Jim I totally undestand I had so many problems with the spinaround. I got the same advice and took it. Now I run fresh tires when I want to be real competative. I still play with the spring tho lol. I love my little fast motor. Problem is everyone else does too.

Got Speed no problem. Huh I hacked them. last night I had first all tyde up. I jumpped the tripple and landed in the marshall area I got back on the track in front of the othe racer. I could of easly won that race instead I did a stop and go. He got buy. He couldnt believe it. Im out there to have fun bro. lol Thos. WEhatch whene you go out Saturday. you cant even talk to them when there wrenchin.lol. I do play alittle rough on tuesdays and thursdays. But Tony hackked me in the turns more than I hacked him. I was just having fun. Hey I cleared the tripple last night and the quad. Next weeks racing should be fun...:D

TJ, Francewah Bring it on :D , sissies, wwwwwaaaaaaaaaa

MikeWz Its real hot to be on a bike out here. But I do see em after the cooling down (6pm) only around a 102° by then, he he he he. Thats the laghe. Let us know then we can hook up.
cave

[pooldoc101]

Got Speed, cave, and the rest of you guys; You are from phoenix, right? I'm looking at a sprintcar kit from Klein motorsports, they say they run at RC sports mania, is that where you guys run? And have you ever seen these Klein cars? Looking for some input, plz LMK
WED- I too was having spinning problems, but learned trigger control was 90% the culprit, I also turned down my expo to -50 and that helped a lot! The RB you sold me is still running strong, it turned me into a RB fan, now I have a 5 port turbo also! I want to do a sprint car as well, of course it will have a RB in it, I saw on their site they have a new motor, the V-12, have you seen one yet? Pooldoc

[MikeWz]

Cave-Yeah definalty. That'd be a lot of fun. Your in Arizona right? And decent hotels by your place. I'm gonna be in Modesto California. It's a bit of a drive, but to hang out with some R/C buddies and a bit of racing it's nothing :D
GS-Let me know how the whole engine thing turns out.

[[-Ecko-]xxx-nt]

How long would stock tires last if I only use it at the track?

[maxman142001]

pooldoc101- Cave, Gotspeed, and I all run are trucks at Scottsdale RC Speedway. I have been to RC Sports Mania before and they specialize in sprint cars. They have a pretty decent dirt oval there the also have an on-road track. You can also checkout their website.RC Sports Mania Web site (http://www.rcsprintcars.com) I hope this helped.:)

Leland

[MikeWz]

ECK0-It all depends on what compound you're running. If you're running Pro-line M3 or Losi Red I've run out of tread after 2-3 full track days (Practices with a few races). They go real fast. My silvers last about 5, but that's pretty much it. It also depends on how hard you drive and how much "Get-go" your engine has. The MT12 can just spin the tires all day, which = need new tires real fast. They get expensive after a while

[speedydave]

Hey Mike, do you mind if I shoot you an IM on AIM?

[ultramindbrk]

Where do you guys buy all you parts from? Cheapest place?

[MikeWz]

Speedydave-Yeah def man. ElemnSP4Life. All of you guys feel free to drop me a line. My E-mail is ElemntSP4Life@aol.com (the other is AIM)

I get all my stuff real cheap from Ebay :D

[Shady]

one of the guys that racers at our track has a hobby shop so we support him, he is always willing to get anything we want and doesn't have big mark up so it cost less or the same for us to et from him

[winning edge designs]

Pooldoc, I haven't seen the new engine yet, but i've heard good things. Sounds like you have got your truck all hooked up, thats cool!

Ecko(XXXNT), imo, the stock tires will last, if they work at your track to start with, for about 2 or 3 weekends. The kit tires are designed for loamy tracks, so they'll be good for longer then hardpack style tires. A tire like a M3 Holeshot, or even smaller, like Red Taper pins will only be good for one race sometimes!...Not that they stop working, but the best drivers will notice the lap times dropping off after the first use, so they'll mount freshies........Gets expensive for those of us paying for our stuff, so we generally run them until the truck gets harder to drive.

ultramindbrk, you won't usually find much of a discount on parts themselves, since most don't want to pay $6.00 shipping for a $9 pair of A arms, so they aren't discounted like kits, etc. are. Speaking of which, it is kind of funny to see people that got a RTR truck bring it in to the local shops asking for help....Then they are surprised when they find out there is a service charge to help get thier mail order kit running. The really funny part is when the same people leave actually pissed at the shop that they would charge for thier labor......That said, I use either Superior Hobbies in casselberry Fl, or JR hobbies in kissimmee Fl. I haven't mailordered ANYTHING in 12 years!!!....Jim

[maxman142001]

Everyone- Please checkout my little XXX-NT I made. It has loads of pics., my services I offer and some links.Thanks.:D My Website (http://maxman142001.tripod.com)

Leland

[Anton-C]

hey guys, its me again with some more stupid newb quesitons.
i was wondering what glow plugs you guys use, i think that i will be going with the os #8 because my lhs sells them (at outrageous prices but ill get over it or order online) and someone who runs a xxxnt that i know uses them in both of their cars. any input would be helpful.

thanks for all of your help and for putting up with my stupid newb questions;) :)

[one_mean_rc10gt]

Has anyone tried one of these yet? It seems it would make starting your Losi a breeze!! I bought one and I will give some feedback on it when it arrives.

http://**************/ws/*******************************3133486236&category=34063

[one_mean_rc10gt]

That didn't work. Just search E*B*A*Y for this item number 3133486236

[Got Speed]

MikeWz- I hope it turns out good. I'll let you know. I'm probably going to get an MT-12 at the end of the summer if I can. I'll need a legal engine for ROAR races. I don't think that power will be a problem. RCN tested it as the most powerful .12 right now at 1.29 hp and 43oz/in of torque. Only .03 hp and 1oz/in of torque off the TRX engine. I don't know I'll have to see. As long as it runs faster than my O.S. I'll be happy. :p I love ebay for the prices you can get on there too.

cave- LOL yea, hack driving is fun sometimes as revenge :p . It's easier to do when there isn't a ton of people out there too. Hopefully I'll be out there saturday with my newly broken-in engine.

winning edge designs- Are you going to be at the 04 Nitro Challenge?

[MikeWz]

GS-What engine are you referring to about the power output? Is that the ofna one?

Anton-Os #8's are good, Mccoy 59's aren't too bad either. My personal favorites are the Novarossi Hot plugs though.

Anybody know where to get some good R/C videos? I'm looking for some plane/car/helicopter/boat ones, and I've already got all the good ones from Here and AE

[Crashbot2001]

Mike, Check out Trilordy. Hope you have a fast connection.. lol

Trilordy Vids (http://trilordy.com/trivideo.html)

[offroadcrazy01]

The os-tr is selling for a great price at towerhobbies for 147.00 out the door not many hobby shop's can beat that and it's a good engine

[darkdemon]

okay ddrobe i did what you said but the truck is still going it goes on neutral and it doesnt stop completely on full brake i have the adam drake and can i see a pic of your trucks brake rod at full bre, and neutral? thanks

[dgrobe2112]

Well, i would love to send you a pic.. but i dont have a digi camera.. srry.. email me or get on AOL instant messenger and see if we can do it through there.. my screen neame is dgrobe2112

or you can call me at 800-433-3116 X249

Laterz

[ultramindbrk]

Ok...Who does custom paint jobs on nt's? I would like to have one painted,or buy one already painted..Anyone have a site where they have some for sale? At a fair price?

[cave]

ultramindbrk

w.e.d. paints em Does em good too.

MikeWz Lots of motel & hotels here in Mesa AZ let me know. If your reserve online Its alot more cost effective.
cave

[maxman142001]

ultramindbrk- Try SkipGear. They do custom paint jobs for all the pros like Drake.SkipGear (http://main.skipgear.com)

Leland

[MikeWz]

Crashbot-Thanks man. Yeah I've got cable so I'm fine

Cave-If you've got any directions let me know. Do you have AIM/AOL? I wouldn't mind chatting of there if you're cool with that

Offroad crazy-The TR lacks a little bit of low-end. It's got even less low end that the standard 3-port sirio. I tried one in my RFX and didn't care for it too much. It didn't get off the line like the sirio and was a little over responsive to needle adjustments. Just my opinion.

[cave]

MikeWz

I got MSN. I dont know if we can do the chat deal. My E mail adress is jetboater454@msn.com. I got a friend in the Army and we do chat. She has AOL. I got her on my buddies list. When your ready to come out let me know. we race on Saturday nights. Weather permiting. Its almst Monsoon time. Thats when it goes from 112° to 75° and rains or hails. LOL. It dosent last long.

cave

[winning edge designs]

Gotspeed, I'd like to, but it'll be tuff since i'm running my own auto repair business now. It was one thing to take a week off when my employer picked up the vacation time, :), LOL! I'm going to try and make the R/C Pro east coast races though. I did race in the Kissimmee Florida(Boggy Creek)R/C Pro race, which was the biggest turnout so far(over 170+). We'll see.

Ultramindbrk, Rather then charging a "fair price", most painters try and squeek out $40-50 plus the body, even though there are some charging as much as $150+! There is usually 4,5 or even more hours involved, plus materials. I have a site at jconcepts dot net, to show my work. But I don't pre paint, since most want certain colors(But usually blue, yellow and orange:)), or designs.

I talked to a painter recently........A professional Airbrush artists makes about $50 per hour painting full scale cars, hmmm. That works out to $200-250 per body.........I hate when i'm bored and start thinking to much, LOL.......Jim

[cave]

ultramindbrk


try painting it yourself I did mine. I bought a xxx main paint mask kit. It was easy to place on the inside. I used two colors Blue and Orange. I can see my truck in the pileups :D
cave

[Got Speed]

MikeWz- I was talking about the Ofna/Picco(ofna distributes picco manufactures) Like Crashbot2001 said definatly trilordy. Most of their movies are good but some of them are really a waste of time like the one called thirsty_turtle IMO.

winning edge designs- Oh ok. I'm really hoping to make it out there so maybe I'll see you somewhere else sometime. :)

[MikeWz]

Thanks for the Link. Some of those videos are quite good. Between Heli/Car/Plane and R1 videos I have over 150 now :D

Cave-Yeah I'll definatly drop you a line or something when I'll be going out there.

Ultramind-Try PMing HaundtedMyst. He does some really good ones. You can get some free paintmasks from www.teamassociated.com :rolleyes: yeah I know, the compeition, but it's free :D

[ultramindbrk]

Thanks everyone..for all your help over the past few days...You guys are life savers....I have only had my NT for about 4 weeks now,and it has already costed me about 300 bucks..lol..But who cares,it's only money,right? Anyhow,I never would have thought I'd even think about racing,until the other day...There was an article in our local paper,about some peeps building some rc tracks at our local park!! To make a long story short...ITS ON :)

Mikewz-- I didn't find nothing for free on the team associated site,except for a catalog..Shoot me a link to the oage your talking about..Id be muchly grateful.

Cave--Very nice dood...Youv'e inspired me...

[cave]

What happen v5.0 Man I wish they had a warning that they're going to change it. LOL I was in v5.0 I thought I was in the twilightzone
cave.

[bogz]

Hi all.

I have a XXX-NT with the stock Mach 15 motor in it.

I have just over 1 gallon of fuel through it, and recently it has developed a problem...

On the first start, it starts up fine (pull start). I will run it a bit on the track (3-5 minutes), and then it will just die.

I shot it with a temp gun, and temps weren't out of control (210-220 range).

Starting it again is a pain though. It seems as if the compression isn't as much as when it is cold (though it could be my imagination, as I fear something is VERY wrong).

I have changed the glow plug, and that didn't help.

I am running Byron fuel, 20% nitro, 12% lubrication.

Any ideas?

Thanks in advance.

[Juice]

Im sure we have covered this, but im looking for a starter box again..O had the box with 2 550's in it and hated it. So what box works great that has the 12 volts starter in it?? thanks

[cave]

bogz
Is your head on tight? If its loose or has a leak it will run lean and heat up and stop. Also if the glow plug is loose. this happen to me. Put a few drops of fuel on top of the glow plug when Its running. If you see bubbles you got a leak.
What type of plug are you using? I use MC59 with good success.
Is it too fat? does it bog when you apply throttle? If it does this may be a rich condition. This will foul your new plug. hope this helps.
I got an Ofna pink box And I have had no problems...Sparks my Losi up instantly. I think there is a picture Of my truck on the starter box. Look up on this page. MikeWz has had a few issues with Ofna. He is also looking for a new box.
cave

[Anton-C]

well today i picked up my xxxnt from my lhs, i havent been able to break it in or even start it for that matter (damn weather) but it is sooo sweet anyway.:D a couple questions though,
1) i have noticed that the large outer foam element came touching the head, and i thought that it could be dangerous considering theres oil on the filter, so i rotated the coupler a little so it is not touching, but now the foam is like 5mm away from the throttle linkage, is this ok, or should i move it back to where it was??
2)i also picked up a dynamite fail safe (the only one my lhs has) and i cant seem to get the wires right, the leads from the fail safe are a little too short, so i would have to mount the fail safe directly on the main chassis, i know that it is possible to mount it on top of the receiver box, but i cant seem to get it right, any suggestions???
3) this is kind of stupid but i just think that getting the battery cover off (for the receiver) is really a pain because you have to undo like 4 screws, is there any way to make this easier with out sacrificing protection and strength??

thanks for your help :D

[purplerides]

Bogz - fiddle with a little more , but a motor that runs good when cold then stalls when it warms up is a classic sign of worn piston ans sleeve.

Juice - i use the Ofna 10250 , starter box , i have them for my XXXNT and for my 1/8th scale , it is a 1 large motor starter box.

[MikeWz]

Ultramind-Check these out. It's a link from AE's site
http://www.*******.com/mask.shtml
If you figure out a way to transfer those onto the body let me know. I can't seem to figure it out

AntonC-The airfilter is fine by the linkage. I have mine facing sideways towards the back of the truck. The failsafe doesn't really do much for you anyway. There's a return spring included in the RTR NT. That'll do just fine.

Juice-If somebody links you up to a site with other boxes let me know. I'm trying to avoid Ofna as well.

[Juice]

Originally posted by purplerides
Bogz - fiddle with a little more , but a motor that runs good when cold then stalls when it warms up is a classic sign of worn piston ans sleeve.

Juice - i use the Ofna 10250 , starter box , i have them for my XXXNT and for my 1/8th scale , it is a 1 large motor starter box.

So the 10250 is the chrome top box! And it does have the bigger 12V starter motor in it? Looks a lot wider than the pink box but Im assuming it works fine since you are using it for the XXX-NT! I will be soon getting me an 1/8 scale so I guess I could use it for both..

Do you use a 12V gel cell for your boxes?

Another question! Can you charge a 12V gel cell with a decent battery charger that you would use to charge stick packs with???

[stefcold]

AntonC - The first thing I would do is put some loctite on the 2 post/screw on the flywheel that are used to hold the clutch shoe. All RTR Sport that I have seen and own don't have loctite on these and most of the time one of the screw will loosen up and wreck the flywheel or worse...

Maybe that has been address by Losi but this was a problem for me and all my racing buddy.

Also make sure you have some spare front arm and rear pivot block, beside that invest your money on some tire. The RTR tires are pretty crappy for racing and like any veteran racer will tell you tire are 80% of the setup. After that I would buy some different shock spring and oil.

Stef...

[cave]

All RTR Sport that I have seen and own don't have loctite on these and most of the time one of the screw will loosen up and wreck the flywheel or worse...
stefcold
this has happend to me. Ruined my MIP clutch shoes & spring. Flywheel, Bearings and Clutch bell. That really sucked. I couldnt figure out why my truck just wanted to take off. :mad: Good advice on the Locktite.

Got Speed Hows that motor? Is it broke in?

cave

[obmd]

Do not charge your gel cell with the same charger as you use on stick packs. Use a special 12 V charger such as one from Hobbico.

[Juice]

Ok, thanks on the charger info!

Whats the better starter box--the Ofna chrome top or the Pink box? Im thinking they are both good boxes!

[purplerides]

Juice - either would be fine , i'm going to get a pink one for my touring car , i use a Gell Cell , i get the Gell Cell and charger , both for $29. bucks.

[MikeWz]

Go with the pink box. That motor is better than the one that comes in the other boxes. If it says 750 or two 550's don't get it. Get one that says it includes a High Torque motor.

[Got Speed]

I wondered why I didn't get any emails from this thread. I checked back and see I am not subscribed to it?!

cave- I'm supposed to be getting it today. I got my new replacement body from losi a few days ago. So I'm going to go to hobby bench and pick up some more mask and a new flywheel then break it in today.

Juice- When you say the chrome box are you talking about their new 1/8 1/10 box? The wider one? If so, it is just as good as the pink one just has a few more mounting positions and is a bit wider.

[MikeWz]

::Sigh:: I guess I'll have to give ofna another try. Unfortuanatly I can't find the high torque motor on its own. I don't want to buy a whole new start box set-up, but want a 12v battery and the high torque motor. Will it fit in the one that usually has the 750 motor?

[cave]

Got Speed Cool bro hopefully we will see you on Saturday.
XXX Main Makes some cool maskings. I think they go on easy.

MikeWz You may have to cut a hole in the side. To fit the motor.

cave

[jimbonj]

Check out nitrohouse:

http://www.nitrohouse.com/Parts_10250.htm

HTH, Jim.

[ultramindbrk]

If you figure out a way to transfer those onto the body let me know. I can't seem to figure it out

Mike..Here is the page on how they work..Pretty easy... http://www.*******.com/pkg-masking123/page1.shtml

[MikeWz]

Ultramind-Thanks man. That definatly helps

Cave- I think I can handle a hole. AS LONG AS THE DAMN THING WORKS. Ahhh. This is so frustrating. I don't want to have to spend $80 on another box, but I can't find anyplace to buy just the motor.
Anybody know where I can buy the ofna high torque starterbox motor?

[jswinkos]

i believe the airplane starter motors are the exact same thing and you can remove the mounts on them. Check one of those out.

[Got Speed]

cave- I started it up and it just sounds awesome. I can't wait to see top speed. :p I'm cutting out my own masks so I just bought a blank sheet. I've got it mostly masked I'll probably paint it tommorow and finish break-in. I got a tent last week to so I can stay out of that 130 degree sun lol. :p

MikeWz- The airplane starter motors are the same thing. I have both the pink box and an airplane starter. Same thing. Look for towerhobbies model. You can just take the plastic brackets and starter wheel off and mount it in the box.

[number11]

Can someone tell me where I can get parts online for the XXX-NT. My LHS sales the car but never has any parts and it takes forever to get anything in.

[Rog]

Horizon and Stormer are the only places I know of with parts listings.

[Got Speed]

number11- There are some really good deals on new parts on ebay all the time too.

[cave]

ooops

[cave]

Got Speed You gunna be out at SRS on Saturday? Tony and I are gunna be there. Do you got enough room for me under that tent?:D Come on GS 130°. More like 180° on that blacktop. See ya there I hope.

MikeWz I think the Bump starters will work for you. Those motors are the same except for the switch. All you have to do is fuse this switch to the run postion. then cut that hole.

We should all help each other out here. I emailed Ofna with no responce. If we all did this and let it be known to Ofna that we all type to each other every night. They wont here 1 or enen 2 E amils but if they get 10 or 20. Maybe they will listen. We all spen alot of money on this life style. Companies that wont listen shouldnt get a good rating from us. As a group we have the power to get companies to listen. Just my .10 cents

I'll try again mike Ofna will see the "cave mail".lol.

cave

[cave]

Mike try this link tooxxx main mask kits (http://xxxmain.com/instruc-mask.shtml) good luck
cave

[Racin Rev]

I am hoping that some of you motor guru’s can help me out. I have a XXXNT with an OS CV-R on its second rebuild with acceptable compression. It runs strongly at 230 with 75 degrees ambient and 45% humidity. This is true when I can get the blasted thing to start. I crank it until my starter motors are hot waiting for it to fire up. My glow plug heater is new (bought in an attempt to cure the problem) the batteries are 1700 mah C cells NiMh. I use it to start my 1/8 scale with no problems at all. Fuel is relatively fresh. I have used a variety of glow plugs ranging from OS a5 to Fox standard long. The fox glows the best in the igniter. All of them have the same problem. I rarely have a problem with hydro lock even though I use the chicken coop system on the fuel tank. (I usually leave it mostly empty until it is time to fill and go.). The idle seems to run constant for about 5 seconds before it slightly loads up, though I cannot seem to be able to richen it at all without it loading right up. I am running a carb restrictor to try to calm it down (unfortunately it has a slide carb). Does anyone have any ideas. :confused: :confused: :confused:

[Got Speed]

cave- I'll be there tommorow. lol that sun is killer. It's a 10' X 10' tent so there is plenty of room. I'll probably be on the east side around 1 - 1:30. I still have to do some more break-in tanks on my engine but this thing feels awesome already. Did tony get his diff fixed? See you there hopefully.

Racin Rev- Could you give us a little more info. Is it spitting out raw fuel when you start it? How does it act once it is running. What do you see coming from the pipe and how does it sound/respond?

[Racin Rev]

Got Speed,

It spits out a little raw fuel but not what I would consider an excessive amount for the amount of time it is cranking over.

It is very responsive when running, like normal. some smoke from the pipe, though this can be hard to evaluate as it is a very dusty track. It doesn't bog down off throttle at all but it does have a different sound than I am used to off throttle while driving but sounds perfectly normal idleing in the pits.

I am beginning to wonder if the restrictor is interfereing with air flow at idle. Not sure though.

[cave]

(unfortunately it has a slide carb). Does anyone have any ideas.

Hey I got slide carb and love it. Racin Rev you are very lucky!
Do you have any carb leaks. Is there air in the fuel line? Is your gas more than a month old? If you answered yes to any of these questions your answer may be there. Old gas reaked havock on my tunning. New Glow plug or old? Is your cooling head on tight ? Is your plug in tight with the copper washer in place to seal it? Do you have the old style tank or the new tank? The old tank sometime had a flooding affect if you stop the motor by clogging the stinger. There are so many variables Racin Rev. Good luck

Got Speed see you there. We will try to get there early.

MikeWz I emailed Ofna again. lets see what happens lol

cave

[MikeWz]

Cave-Thanks again man. I highly doubt they'll ever get back to either one of us. I guess they don't realize how important customer serivce really is :(

GS-How's the engine break-in going?

[Racin Rev]

Originally posted by cave

Do you have any carb leaks. Is there air in the fuel line? Is your gas more than a month old? If you answered yes to any of these questions your answer may be there. Old gas reaked havock on my tunning. New Glow plug or old? Is your cooling head on tight ? Is your plug in tight with the copper washer in place to seal it? Do you have the old style tank or the new tank? The old tank sometime had a flooding affect if you stop the motor by clogging the stinger. There are so many variables Racin Rev. Good luck



no known carb leaks. no air in fuel, gas is just at one month, new or old doesn't make a difference washer is in and in good condition, head is tight, old style tank but i use hemostats to clamp off the gas when done never with the stinger.

[MikeWz]

You're on the second rebuild you said right? How many gallons do you have through this one? Most people say two rebuilds is the most you'll get out of an engine, and that the performance dwindles starting from the first rebuild. It may be time for a new engine.:(

[Racin Rev]

about 1/2 gallon on the rebuild, though I don't think that all the cold cranking is doing anything good for engine longitivity. When I say second rebuild I mean new, rebuilt once. So I guess that might be one rebuild.

[MikeWz]

Gotcha. Yeah so it's definatly not done yet.
Try this, lean up the LSN. If it loads up after five seconds that means it's rich. If it was too lean it would try to bogout-quit right when you hit the throttle no matter how long you let it sit. A good sign of a rich LSN is loading up, bogging off the line when letting it sit for a little bit.

[kidd25]

i was running my drake yesterday and everything was going great.then allof a sudden it just stoped moving. engine revs up but truck not going anywhere. if i pick the back end up tires move.put it back down it just revs. could it be my slipper or maybe the clutch? please help

[cave]

May be your diff. Is your spur gear ok If so the dreaded srtipped diff is possibly your prob. When its running with the truck on the ground give it a push. If it moves then stops. It may be your diff. If you hear chirpping (If it rolls) then you may have a stripped diff
cave

[maxman142001]

gotspeed- How did the new engine run last night?

[Got Speed]

Racin Rev- Like MikeWz said lean your LSN about 1/16th turn at a time untill the problem goes away. Don't lean it too much though otherwise you will stall a lot and it will be very unpredictable and hard to start.

MikeWz- It's going great now. The factory settings were about 1 turn off so it gave me problems on my first tank. It is running great now. It still isn't fully broken-in but is really powerful and fast now just the same. It was kind of a pain to tune at first since it kept stalling from a bad LSN setting but towards the end of the night I got the hang of tuning it.

kidd25- Sounds like melted diff syndrome. Spin the rear wheels in opposite directions and see if they spin really easily. If so, you will need to rebuild your diff unless one of your driveshafts broke.

maxman142001- It was kind of a pain at first but towards the end of the night I started getting the hang of tuning it, then it was running great. If only my driving could match up. lol takes a lot of getting used to.

[cave]

Got speed Is too modest. He did great last night. If not for the crappy marshaling he would of got second! Mybe 1st. Its real tough to go out and give it your all when others dont give a crap. All the guys in B main hauled ass for the A mains. Wished the electrics would perform like us nitros when they marshal. most dont even get up from the crates that are there Not for sitting but to stay out of the drivers view. Thos few guys really sucked. I didnt even want to marshal after that race. Hope I can return the favors to all those guys. Maybe when there are bigger stakes. Naw I cant stup that low but I can dream huh. You guys who race here. remember you get what you give so give it all!!!
I dont know what they have against Nitros. We are all great people. :D
cave.

[Got Speed]

lol thanks. But you're doing great yourself out there. The people in the B main did better than those in the A last night it seemed after marshaling them. lol Hopefully I'll be out there on the 21st. I need to rebuild alot of suspension and drivetrain parts. That engine dosn't seem to hard to tune now. It is a bit picky with weather but it's not too dificult now that break-in is almost done. I still had plenty of room to lean it out too but I don't want to get it at a race-setting untill after break-in. lol maybe I'll wait untill I can handle it. :p Towards the end I was just barely breaking 200. Anyway, see you there in a few weeks.

maxman142001- When are you going to be there?

[beachbum]

i was at my local track this weekend and i saw this guy filling his right rear shock with purple oil and i was wondering if anyone knew who makes purple oil and what weight it might be? thanks

[cave]

Got Speed your gunna love that slide carb on the straights. That motor hauls... Me and Tony ragged about that race at lunch Sunday. Man I was so disapointed. Not so much for myself as I was for you and Tony. I was out of it the first time that guy wouldnt get up off the crate. lol. Scott even yelled "straighten him out" a bunch of times. Ok I'll stop now.:rolleyes:

cave

[MikeWz]

GS-Glad to hear you got your engine problem straightened out. Now I just have to get my SB problem straightened out. Gonna call Ofna today and complain to them :D

Cave-What's going on with the marshals over there? They being lazy?

Beachbum-Not sure about any purple oils. What's your track like? For a smooth track I ususally run 35fr and 40rear and for a bumpier track I run 35fr/rear. This works for me but may not work for you. Go to your LHS and pick up a few different wt oils and springs and see which combo works best for your track. The drake set-up is a good place to start though.

[maxman142001]

gotspeed- My truck is ready. I am going to try to come out this thursday.

Leland

[beachbum]

thanks mikewz,

my track is pretty smooth, i will try that set up and see what happens. thanks again

[kidd25]

okay so i melted my diff. how do i prevent this from happening again? one more question, i'm running an os 12 cvr. what temp range should i be in? my buddy told be between 190 to 220? is this right

[purplerides]

Beachbum - the purple shock oil sounds like it's Team Losi's certified shock oil , i think purple is 25wt.

[ultramindbrk]

will an Ofna 1/8 Starter Box work for the xxx-nt?

[purplerides]

Kidd25 - just build the as per instructions , make sure you check it often esp. the first couple of runs as the components break in it will need readjusting , the diff should be tight and not allowed to slip at all , the slipper must slip before the diff.

there is no perfect motor temp. there are to many variables , i perfer to keep them under 250 for sure , most times my motor does run around 210 , but depending on track and track conditions and air conditions temps may go up. with the chrome piston and sleeve many say you can run much hotter , i haven't had to often, this past weekend i raced in regionals (took third place) and we've had a lot of rain up here so the track was real heavy and that alone raised my temps. to 260 , but as the track got worked in , later in the day and after the 30 min. main the temp was 224.

[purplerides]

ultramindbrk - i use an ofna part# 10250 for my XXXNT and yes it is an 1/8th scale box. have been using it for about 6-7 years now , i guess i got my moneys worth out of it.

[jasonrcfreak]

Howdy y'all! I'm getting a Collari-Picco engine for my NT. I had a Picco a few years ago on an NT and kept having trouble with the flywheel spinning loose. It turns out that the inside diameter of the Picco collet was slightly smaller than the Losi collet, hence the problem.

Does anyone know if Picco still uses these different size collets?

Thanks!
Jason

[ultramindbrk]

Ok...I have asked this question in another forum,and I still havent gotten a straight answer...How do you know which starter box to buy for an xxx-nt??
I am clueless..I wanna buy one off ebay,because they are cheap on there...Someone help!!! :)

[pooldoc101]

jason, yes they still use it , my wasp/picco moter came with a collet in box . Also, the exhaust opening was a different size, but a gasket off a drake pipe worked fine. Pooldoc

[cave]

Mike This is the responce Ofna sent me in regards to your motor problem

Hi there
On something like this type of part, I would recommend you sending it in to OFNA Racing.
If it is determined to be under warranty we will repair or replace it at no cost. If not warrantied you will be notified promply via phone call and part will be returned. Please include your Name, address, daytime phone # and explanation.

Thank you for your continued support of OFNA products
Angel C.

OFNA Racing
22692 Granite Way ste B
Laguna Hills, Ca. 92653
(949)586-2910 Ext 228Hi there

Give it a try bro It may work out for you
cave

[jasonrcfreak]

Are you talking about the exhaust gasket that goes on the back of the engine? It's not a regular round exhaust?

Thanks
Jason

[cave]

jasonrcfreak
Did you read Maverick's post on the Collari? Is it the Collari-picco or the Collari.
Buyer beware
Maverick has a a good rep.
I think it was your thread on this motor
goos luck

cave

[Got Speed]

beachbum- If the oil was purple it was most likely Team Losi 40wt oil. I don't know if other companys color code theirs but losi does and purple is 40wt. For most tracks you won't go less than 30wt oil or more than 40wt. Most of the time you won't have a thicker wt in the front. I would find out what most guys at your track are running and try it or just start with 35wt all around.

cave- Yea, I really liked the slide on my CV-R although a broader mid range would be nice I think I prefer the slide now. That marshalling was pretty bad out there. If you arn't going to give marshaling your all you shouldn't be out there. I would rather have a marshal from across the track have to run to the other side to get my car than some people who have it land right in front of them. :rolleyes: Tony was saying you guys drive hack on thursdays? LOL I should come join you some time on a tues or thurs.

MikeWz- Thanks, I love this engine now that I got it running right. I just have to make my driving meet up to the standard this engine sets. lol What are you using untill you get your starter box fixed?

maxman142001- Cool. Will you be out there on the 21st? What kind of setup are you going to use? If you don't have any idea me or cave can give you a pretty good place to start.

kidd25- Somebody else replied to this already I think but I'll post it again anyway. Just follow the directions exactly when rebuilding the diff. Once it is built make sure it is adjusted so that you can hold one wheel and the spur gear while turning the other wheel and the slipper plates will turn and nothing else. If the slipper plates don't turn or they turn a little and then the diff slips a little then your diff still needs tightened. When you rebuild your diff you can either just get out and run it or break it in by running in a figure-8 pattern for about 1/4 tank of fuel. The first way will work but in the end you will get better life by breaking it in. As for the engine I was running the same engine untill last week. I usually found it liked to be run from 210-230 but it can vary depending on whether. Uneless you are running in really bad whether(like 20F or something) you should be between 200-240. Anything below 200 isn't really good and over 240 the engine really didn't gain any more performance.

ultramindbrk- The pink box will work and the new silver one will work with it. As for the others I don't know. It seems many people use the pink ofna box. I love mine. I would look for those two on ebay. As for others you will just have to go find the information from the manufacture's site.

jasonrcfreak- Yes they still use the crank that is 1mm smaller. I just bought a picco last week and it came with the right collet.

[jasonrcfreak]

Cave-

I read Mavs post. But I had already won the auction so I'm gonna go ahead and get it. It's the Collari-Picco XS .12 rear exhaust, rotarty carb. Has the pretty gold head on it.

I talked to Ace-Hobbies who has carried the Collari line and J.R. told me that the Ofna/Picco piston/sleeve would work if needed.

I think they have some engines that they have been parting out for people.

I'm running 35wt/front/red springs and 40wt/rear/orange springs.

[cave]

jasonrcfreak
Hey thats a good motor I seen one run and its every bit as fast as any of the other race motors. I just heard that the ports dont match up when you mix the sleaves. If you got it for alittle over a 100.bucks you got a great deal.

Got Speed
Tony can add alittle to that set up. I laughed at his set up but he handled those turns real good. Maybe it was the new M8. Thursdays are for real fun. We hack but its all in good faith. We dont go out to demolish our trucks. We practice this way so when we come up on instagaters that enjoy running this way on Saturdays we can react to the hackers. Plus it helps our egos when we race each other. We dont hack others just between Francewah Tony and I. ((and any one who ghwts too close LOL)) J/K Oh and GS You are always welcome bro. Your NANA is too she is awsome. Oh yea Thanks for the extra shade. I didnt get to thank you for that...113° that afternoon. I need to get a table too. lol.

ultramindbrk
Hey I got the monster pink box. I dont know the # of the box but it is the pink box with the motor that sticks out of the side. Ofna makes a new chrome box that is wider. Ive only seen 1. Its pricey too. I have never had a problem with my Pink box :D I love it. I'de post a pic of it but I posted that pic at least 3 times. May be you could go to www.Ofna.com and check it out there.

cave

[cave]

ultramindbrk
here you go

Ofna starter box, the pink box on the bottom right. (http://www.ofna.com/starters.html)

PART NUMBER: 10255- w/Power Panel
Used For: 1/10 On Road, 1/8 On Road
above part number is the one I bought. I love it. Get the glow igniter also. it around 10-12 bucks you wont regret it! you will also need the 12 volt gel battery and charger all fer around 130.bucks american.

cave

[jasonrcfreak]

cave-

I gave $127 for it including shipping. I've never seen one run so I'm anxious to get it strapped in. :D I've got an '02 Fantom FR12 in it right now.

[cave]

That motor runs real good. Make sure you break it right. Its a touchy motor. The guy who runs this motor at SRS says he loves the motor but hes not to enthused about the carb. He thinks it looses tune cause the carb. Its a pain to keep within that tuned sweet spot. All nitros are like that for me lol. Your going to love it. keep an eye on your temp.

cave

[Got Speed]

cave- Sure no problem. Your welcome anytime. Hopefully I will be able to come out there on a saturday before too long. Right now I have to get a bunch of stuff before next race. A lot of rebuilding to do. Those power panels are only $12? Is that how much they are at SRS?

jasonrcfreak- I see a guy that runs it at my track. He is an awesome driver and that engine screams. He said he got it ported too. I've heard that it is the same thing as the Ofna/Picco Turbo 7 Port but I'm not sure. This guy also had his ported.

[kidd25]

just wanted to say thanks to everyone for the help! i'm sure i'll have more questions

[jasonrcfreak]

Picco carbs kinda have a reputation as being a pain in the butt to keep in tune. If it gives me trouble I'll slap an O.S. carb on it. :D

[dkj-M3]

Your right about those picco carbs, I put my novarossi carb on my wasp, because the picco carb was too touchy. I would move the needle 1hr & the temp jump 20*. With my nova carb on it I can dial in a temp within +- 3* & it holds it. I got 18mins on my Wasp on a small track running 200* race conditions.:eek: Only thing i don't like about the OS carb is that its like putting a restrictor in the carb.

[maxman142001]

gotspeed- I have been running Adam Drakes standard setup since i got my xxx-nt and I love it! I have ran it 3 times at srs it it have worked great for me. Although I have not run this setup on the new track layout I am very confident that it is a winning setup. Change of plans though, i am not going to be out there Thursday, i am going to Flagstaff till Sat. so I will try to make it out there next week and I will get back to you about the 21st.


Peace
Leland

[stefcold]

I just bought a used Adam Drake XXX-NT, and it didn't have a manual, I will be ordering one but would like to order some part at the same time.

I need to change de rod end, after looking in past thread, the Drake edition come with Lunsford turnbuckle but standard Losi ball stud. So what rod end do you suggest, the RPM or Losi one, also would the Super Duty RPM one fit standard Losi ball stud the info on their web site seem to indicate that they will only fit Lunsford ball stud.

One bearing in one of the rear wheel and one of the 'big' steering bearing need to be change, is there some replacement bearing avalaible for somebody else than Losi for these?

Stef...

[Got Speed]

jasonrcfreak- I thought about putting my O.S. carb on right away but I decided to give the stock carb a shot. It is alot harder to tune than the O.S but it isn't impossible. I think I'm getting the hang of tuning it.

maxman142001- Hopefully we will see you then. Do you have a pic of your truck?

stefcold- There are lots of people who make different bearings for it. The front and rear bearings are the same size. I konw the ceramic nitrate ones are probably best but I don't like to spend $100 on a bearing set. I like losi's since they are rubber sealed on one side they last longer and the inside part of the bearing is metal shielded so you reduce the drag the extra rubber seal would add. The losi ball cups work fine on the turnbuckles but RPM's are stronger.

[stefcold]

Got Speed: Thanks,

I'll probably try the RPM ball cup, has for the bearing, the one I'm more concern about is the one in the steering unit, one of the bottom one was all in pieces. I wanted to know if someone was producing a better/stronger bearing for it.

Also the one in the rear is ok, but the seal doesnt stay on, it keep fallling, anybidy haas a way to fix that. If I have to replace it, should I change all the wheel bearing or only this one.

Stef...

[Got Speed]

stefcold- Oh, you are talking about the steering bearing for the bellcranks. I don't think anyone makes a stronger one. I wish they did though because these are awfully small for the hits they take. I shattered one of my bottom ones too. They are about $10 for the set of 4 of them. As for the seal mine seem to do the same thing once I take them out a few times. Usually they stay in untill I take the bearings off. Make sure you have them all they way pushed in as far as they will go too.

[purplerides]

honestly fellows about the bearing in the steering unit , i use the plastic bushing that comes with the regular kit , it last for ever no play and is smooth as silk , won't seize up when dirt gets in it , it comes in part#A-1620 it comes with other streering system parts ie.servo saver top/bottom , steering idler arm , steering drag link and something else can't remember , for $6.00 , the bushings don't get sloppy and turn smooth. i know, i know, how can a plastic bushing be better , a bearing is just simply not needed there.

[dkj-M3]

those small bearings will always break when trying to get them out of the bottom, just use the plastic ones.

[cave]

Got Speed i paid 10 bucks for mine there but I bought everything at one time so I'm sure he got me on sumthing else :p They got them right on the right side of the shop...

purplerides
you mean to tell me you havnt changed yours In how long? Man Mine get sloppy in a month or so. I dont get the bearings cause they look like there to thin around where they should be strong. The plastic ones are easy to replace just screw a coarse threaded screw into them and they come right out. Bets 10. bucks every other month. I drive hard. Part of my therapy.lol.

maxman142001
yea yea yea. Your doing it right . Stay away from SRS Its way to addictive. One visit and your hooked. Youll be geggin you family for a ride every Saturday.

MikeWz
Bro have you notified Ofna ? Let me know how it turns out...

stefcold
just go to www.losi.com and you can down load a manual there.

[stefcold]

Cave: yep the manual for the XXXNT Sport is there but I haven't found the Drake manual, I don't want to order RTR plastic parts. Also there is no bearing in the steering unit. Even just an exploded view would be fine, but there is nothing for the Drake.

So some of you replace the steering bearing with the stock plastic bushing? What is the main benefit of running a bearing, is it worth it even if there is more maintenance to it!

Stef...

[Got Speed]

stefcold- The bearings are smoother. It dosn't make a whole lot of difference but in my opinion the bearings still last longer. I have run mine for 9 months before breaking one and that was only when I had to take it out of the kickplate. Either way it's mostly preference.

[cave]

stefcold
Your right . I searched for the Drake manual and found nothing on it. They have a xxxnt w/ bearing kit but no manuel. Must be a copy right deal with Drake. go to www.drake.net and ask him. He may have an aswer for you.

cave

[maxman142001]

Gotspeed- For pics checkout my website (http://maxman142001.tripod.com)

Cave- Yah I know but I want to go sooooo bad! I swear Nitro is a Drug!:p


Leland

[purplerides]

what i'm saying is the plastic bushing last a long time not forever , but the plastic will get slop in it slowly and will not seized or self destruct during the main. , i checked some guys with bearings and some with bushing you'd be hard pressed to tell by moving the steering linkage wich ones has bearings wich ones had bushings.

[Juice]

Im thinking on getting me some F/R Adam drake threaded shocks!! Is there a big differance in the way they perform over the standard losi shocks?

By the way what is everyone running for springs/oil in there truck?:D

[Got Speed]

cave- You can't find a manual that is a Drake manual? Mine says Adam Drake edition right on it. I think I have seen some on ebay too. Is this what you are talking about? :confused:

maxman142001- Do you have a pic with the body on? So if me or cave see you we will know who you are.

Juice- Unless you are a really good driver you probably won't notice any difference. They are smoother, last longer, and are easier to adjust. I am usually running either pink, orange, or red springs with 30 to 40 wt. oil. Try the Drake setup. It works well on most track and is good for everyday bashing too.

[cave]

Got Speed I got my drake manual. stefcold was looking for one and I thought Losi's web site may have one. Wrong.

Juice
I think the slide collar is fine. If your going to upgrade save 80 bucks by getting the nitride coated shock shafts. I know the Drake shocks look cooler but I got them and didnt see any differance in the handling. It just has that threaded look. performance wise the shafts are 6 to 7 bucks x 4 =28. sounds better than 80 dollars for the look. If your like me, youll end up with drake shock bodies.lol. I should of spent the money on extra springs:D

cave

[maxman142001]

gotspeed- I have the graphite colored rtr body.

[MikeWz]

Cave-I'm going to be sending in my starter box today. I'm not sure what they're going to do, but they better not make me pay shipping for no reason :mad:

[darkdemon]

:confused: hEY MAXXMAN:confused:

ATTENTION MAXXMAN how did you put your website on the internet? im trying to put mine on thgat i made on frontpage 2000 but dont know how plese help me i e-mailed you

[Got Speed]

cave- really? That's wierd.

Juice- I forgot to add in my post about the shocks. If you don't need anything for your truck then don't bother with the shocks. I wouldn't have them if I hadn't bought the DE kit. If you are still using the stock engine use the $80 towards a better engine or soemthing like that. The shocks do pretty much nothing performance wise.

[dkj-M3]

The threaded shock bodies, just make it a lot easier & quicker to adjust ride height without any tools.

[Juice]

Cool, thanks I have a CVR already so Im set for the motor--I was just looking for a little upgrade. I have lots of upgrades just looking at the shocks?? I saw them on ebay for like $28.00Pair(complete) is that a good price?

[MikeWz]

Juice-That's a great price. I paid $35 for them at my LHS, and if you bought each part seperatly it'd cost you a good $40 or so.

[gizmoguy303]

Here's a brand new Drake manual right here:

http://**************/ws/*******************************3133973481&category=19168


edit: link won't work - ebay item no. 3133973481 - there you go

[Anton-C]

sort of along the lines of the shocks,

what would you guys suggest for my first cheap upgrade, i have the rtr, basically i am the type of person who likes to tune and adjust things etc etc (thats why i got nitro;) ) so anything other than new wheels and tires (for my track) and i hear the front arms can break, so ill replace those with graphite when they break, i would like to spend under about 50 bucks i was thinking a good set of springs, and a few bottles of shock oil so i can play with that;) any suggestions on those or other things???

thanks for your help,
:D ;)

[dkj-M3]

get the trinity or rc trix aluminum rear pivot block & the Drake pipe.

[cave]

Anton-C

dkj-M3 makes a good choice. The trinity pivot block and the Drake pipe are an awsome combo. Why graphite on the replacement parts. I run with the plastics now. I'm still trying to keep from touching the guild pipes here. One tap and the tires stick to em like glue. Whala broken arms. lol. The graphit ones seem to be more brittle. If your an expert driver and dont touch the boards as often as I do you 'll be OK with the Graphite. They cost way more too. I like the stock ones. less money and they seam to give alitlle when I tap the pipes or another car. Ooops Sorry to thos I race with lol.

cave

[purplerides]

i'm with cave and dkj - get the regular arms , and the rear pivot block is a great upgrade , the trinity part#TK5056.

[grimlock3000]

"i would like to spend under about 50 bucks i was thinking a good set of springs, and a few bottles of shock oil so i can play with that any suggestions on those or other things???"

first up i think you should try some different springs and shock oils to tune the suspension setup. i went from the stock kit setup to the drake setup for a few $$$ in parts and it made a huge difference in the drivability of my truck. i have the drake pipe as well that i purchased after making the suspension changes. the suspension bits made a "wow!" difference in handling and the pipe just made the truck a bit faster with more low end. you will need extra front arms so get those with no question. having extra rod ends (or captured rod ends) is good as well. once a rod end pops off more than once, just replace it with a new one.

i think how many pivot blocks you break is highly dependant on the track/terrain and your driving style. i tend to nose into the ground when i screw up jumps and have so far not broken my rear pivot block in 1.5 gallons of fuel. one of my friends has a xxx-nt as well and he has gone through almost a gallon of fuel w/o breaking his pivot block. the rear pivot block is time consuming to replace, so i am not looking forward to the day when mine does break. even if you got the aluminium pivot block, you might not want to take apart the rear end to put it on until the stock one breaks anyway.

i would say get the spare parts and suspension bits for sure, then get the drake pipe if you want some extra speed or a aluminium pivot block if you are really worried about breakage.

[MikeWz]

Anton-Give the Fantom Works pipe a try. A guy at the my track has one and it rips. It sounds absolutely insane too. He's got the dual chamber one, but if you have a shorter track they also have a single chamber. Definatly worth a shot.
You can also buy a complete pair of drake shocks for about $30 on ebay. Definatly recommend those, as you can get more precise measurements with them.

Does anybody know when Losi's "Shock Dyno" is due to come out? I could really use one of those.

[Anton-C]

cave- i was going to get the graphite because my lhs was recomending them, and someone i know runs them and says that they are stronger than the plastics.....

i think that as soon as i need the extra boost in speed ill get the drake pipe, and ill get the pivot block if mine breaks (the person i run with drives the hell out of his truck and he hasnt broken his)
what shock oil weights do you think i should get, i think i am just going to go with a whole set of springs and so i can have a ton of options;)

oh yeah, i am going to get some new tires soon, what do you suggest, i am not really sure about what people run on the local track because one is not open yet, the other is almost two hours away.......;)

[MikeWz]

The stock tires will do you just fine if you're not going to race. Otherwise get the reptiles or Pro-line Bow Ties. Those are good
As for shock oil, get 30-45 wt. That should hold you over just fine. I don't think you're going to want to go any higher than that. If you do it's going to be used in the street and that's about it.

[Shady]

Tires really depend on track so its best to see waht the majorty run at the track to see what you need, so you might want to save some money for the tires to find out what the track will need, as far as graphite, they are stronger except in the cold, graphite is more durable than plastic but when it gets cold it makes them more brittle...i race hard and still hit things pretty hard and have yet to break anything on my truck except the rear piviot block with just 1 minute worth of track time, i wouldn't put the graphite on untill you start breaking things though.

[WheelNut]

Just wondering engines you guys are running. I'm running a .12 CV-R w/slide carb, and it is the best engine I've ever seen or ran! It runs best at about 205 adn pulls wheelies if there's traction. Not to mention it will idle for an entire tank no problem and puts out tons of compression. 24psi that is. Its got about half a gallon through it. For a compression comparison, 2 of my buddies NEW T-maxx with the engines just broken in registered 16psi and 18psi. If anyone is looking for an engine buy a CV-R!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Just unbelievable performance.

I've also had my first race with my NT 2 weeks ago. It was at Rc Racers in Edmonton Alberta, at their brand new track. This track is gaint! The drivers stand is 20ft tall, and the track is so huge when the truck is on the other side it looks the size of a game boy advance game. Which is pretty tiny. Not to mention the track is rough, very rough! And loose, I had so many tumbles it was crazy. There were about 9 other ST's there. 3 other NT's and the rest were GT's. For my first race I did pretty good, I made it to the A-main (sure there were only 2 mains, but still!). Unfortuantely my truck finally felt the toll of all the abuse and my steering knuckle broke on my 3rd lap! Talk about disheartening. It was a fun day though. I was at the track for 7hours. And only got to run 8 or so tanks through my truck, but it was still fun. plus my engine ran like a clock, it was probably the only truck to not stall once all day! My rear tires were horrible also. I hope that I'll be able to go back to the track there soon (its a 5 hour drive to edmonton from where I live!). So I can get some new tires and give the racing another try. Mabye I could bring my T3, and my dad could bring his GT, and my bro could bring his Savage.

Sorry for the rambling, but I needed to get the story out of me. :)

[Got Speed]

WheelNut- Have fun racing. That first race is usually so much fun. Not to brag but it was pretty exciting the first time I raced my NT I got 2nd place in novice class. Right now I am using an Ofna/Picco Turbo 7 Port(just bought it a week and a half ago). Before that I was running an O.S. CV-R too. It was a great engine. I loved it. Never a problem till it needed a rebuild at about 4 gallons. 7 Hours!? hehe sounds like me last week. From 1pm-11pm in the 150 degree sun. :p But it's fun.

[Shady]

First race with my NT was pretty fun to, had a OS CV great motor for the price, was on sale for 50 bucks at the time, can't beat 50 bucks for around 7 1/2 gallons of racing.....that was over 1 1/2 years ago now its a new Drake with either a squeezed CV or a RB X12 :D...........i tried te CVR and it might have been me but it seemed to picky to be an OS motor, OS is known for ease of tuning and the CVR (or atleast the one i had) was a pain, once i got it tuned it was great but it just seemed like i was tuning on it more than i really should have been

[T-maxx 4eva]

THAT IS THE QUESTION.
i WAS TALKIN TO THE GUY @ HOBBYTOWN AND HE SAID THAT THIS IS A GOOD TRUCK BUT ONLY GOES 30 MPH!! TRUE? I WANT A XXXNT BECAUSE I HEARD IT IS FAST. IF ITS NOT I NOT GET ONE.
ALSO IF YOU HAVE ONE YOU WANT TO SELL POST SOME PICS.

DOUG

[Shady]

t maxx-as far as how fast it all really depends on motor and where you run it, you can put a motor in it with insane Hp and gear it for speed and go fast, but for the most part we race and top speed means little to us (atleast me) since you can go really fast but its harder to slow down from a higher speed......JMO and as far as selling one check mine out that i am sellling at www.geocities.com/rebel_613 and click on items for sale

[cave]

Anton-C
Any up grade you decide on is great. You cant go backwards if you have a ready to rebuild.lol. I mean ready to run. I got one too or I had one . The RTR I have has been transformed into a drake clone without the graphite. I'm not knocking graphite. I just prefer the plastick .MO. I Have tjhe softer spring set up. I have pink in the rear with 35 wt oil. Int the front I run red spings with 35 wt oil. The rears are just under "dog bones level". the front are A arms level from a push all the down and this is where it rebounds. Level. I also have the orange springs and thats all I need for the track I race at. Tires< Our track is concrete. Hard! so I run the Proline Boeties M3 compound. Works for me and everyone else there. If you have a loomy track the step pins work great. There are so many variables with tires. Best to check with all the racers on set up. Watch the fast guys and watch how they handle. talk the ones who handle the best. Most times they hook you up.
I did a little test on my Mugen. I tryed the rtr pipe and the Drake pipe. I myself with tony my nephew witnessing, saw a sugnificant difference between the two!!! Mind you this was with a mugen He did his with the Mach .15. he had the same readings. But again this is only my opinion bro. I have seen the works pipe in action. My racing buddy Francewah has one. He loves it. He just bought a Mugen because of me (Darn it) and he's going to run this pipe with it. I'll let you know how it did.
Anton-C do you have the stock motor?(Mack .15) Anything you do to this Awsome race truck will be an improvement.
Becuase It rips stock!
Got X? Triple X NT
Good luck Anton-C welcome to the Losi addiction zone

cave

[Anton-C]

thanks cave for the welcome and tips,

yes i am running the stock mach .15.....

i think that i am going to try the stock setup for a race or two and then go from there.... because if i dont even know what the track drives like i am just going to waste money:rolleyes:
so now all i need is a clear day (damn rain wont stop) and a ride to the track........

[pooldoc101]

WED- I really need some new indestructible[if there is such a thing] ball ends and tie rods. I've heard you talk of super duty turnbuckles , but on their website their showing a special ball stud and rod end for them. My guestion is,does someone make a captured end for those? I,ve tried dubro and their's just doesn't cut the mustard, too weak and I'm tired of loosing when a ball end breaks or comes off! Any help would be appreciated-Pooldoc

[WheelNut]

Pooldoc why not try to find some Rocket city ball ends, if you know some one into 4link monster they'll know exactally what I'm talking about. Or you could get some longer links and try out Traxxas rod ends. They stay together really well, I'm going to put some on my truck. If the superduty turnbuckle wont fit in the stock hole you can just drill it out a bit.

[cave]

pooldoc101

I feel your pain bro. I cant tell you how many times I DNF because of a simple ball break. I used the Losi Titanium Ball studs . They break. I got the MIP ball studs , they break. I now a couple of guys who run the traxxis stuff The plastic part breaks. I wish I could find the 5-40 type ballstuds and ball cups. Maybe switch to a 8th scale setup. Got Speed is one guy who doesnt have a problem with the traxxis type capture ends. If you find a better ballcup and stud let me know

cave

[T-maxx 4eva]

nice car but no motor. i want one with a motor. but how much for that?

[Shady]

T maxx-sent you a PM

[pooldoc101]

cave- I haven't had much trouble with the ball studs, although i've broken a couple, but changed to titanium and haven't broken one yet! Knock on wood. But my ball sockets want to keep popping off, i've tried losi, rpm and they all do the same. I know it would cure it by staying off the wall, but as i'm sure we all know, easier said than done! Or worse, lap traffic or other crashed trucks! I just want something that will hold up! I'm hoping WED has a cure

[cave]

pooldoc101

I asked him the same thing awhile ago. I cant remember what Jims answer was. I think it was the Traxxas solution. Ive been told by local racers that there are 5-40 ball studs and cups. I just dont know who makes them. I may race tonight, if so I'll aske around.. Low funds may keep me from racing:( .lol. :D

cave

[Got Speed]

T-maxx 4eva- It isn't a really fast truck but it depends on the engine. About high 20s to high 40s depending on engine and gearing. For racing top speed dosn't matter a whole lot. For bashing you could get something faster but if you ever plan on racing you will be much slower with any of the "non-race-trucks".

Shady- You had a hard time with the CV-R? Mine was extremely easy to tune. Sometimes I didn't even have to touch the needles from one week to another. If all engines tuned like that lol.

cave- Low on funds!? lol I know how that is. I'm always low on funds. :p Are you still going to be there next saturday? Francewa now has a Mugen too? If you find out who makes the larger ball studs LMK I'd like to try them.

WheelNut- I thought rocket city went out of business? I heard their rod ends where great but I can't find them anywhere because I was told they weren't in business any longer.

pooldoc101- As cave said I run the Traxxas ends and havn't broken or bent one in a year of racing them. If those don't even hold up for you Pro Line now makes captured ends for the T-Maxx that are even stronger. Unless you get longer turnbuckles you will only be able to run one end on each upper turbuckle. Since 90% of the time the only ball studs that break are the ones on the rear shock tower. I only run those two with captured ends. Only cost about $5 for ends and like $1 for a package of bolts.

[WheelNut]

I think you can get something like them through Parma or Thundertechracing.

www.thundertechracing.com

[xxxOS12CVRnt]

Rocket City rod ends are still available under a new company name.........

It's late, I'll try to find something tomorrow.

[Shady]

Got Speed-I think most of it was a bad carb, dunno for sure its still sittin on the front of the race trailer hadn't been touched in months, i love my CV's and a buddy of mine had one he played with that had more power than a cvr but for the most part a stock cv with a od head is enough for my local track, my RB is my motor for big tracks

Rocket City ends are suppose to be out through Horizon but from what i understand on dealers can get them right now.....not sure how true it is just heard it from a few ppl that are usually right...the parma ends suck IM i tried them and broke them all without even wrecking, i got traxxas ends on the inside rear and red losi ballcups everywhere else and havn't had a single problem

well i gotta get to bed get to run at the Monster Jam tomorrow in Savannah, my "backup" NT gonna FLY HIGH

[Got Speed]

Shady- Do you know what name to search under?

[dkj-M3]

Parma (http://www.parmapse.com/rcitem.asp?n=12803)

Parma 2 (http://www.parmapse.com/rcitem.asp?n=12802)

I would get the new proline cap-ends for the t-max & use Lundsford super duty turnbuckles, they don't break or bend.

I have tried everything else with no luck, they either break or bend.

[MikeWz]

I bought the Francis stuff. I have the red ball cups and the the francis lunsford turnbuckles. Haven't had any problems with them yet, and the red looks pretty damn gangsta

[dkj-M3]

Pro-line cap-ends (http://pro-lineracing.com/proline/parts/6020/6020.html)

Super Duty Turnbuckle Kit (http://www.lunsfordracing.com/super_duty_tb.htm)

[pooldoc101]

Thanks guys, I'm gonna try those proline ends on superduty turnbuckles, or maybe the traxxas ones - Pooldoc

[cave]

Must be that black thinder cloud above me but I have bent and broke the lundsford TB's. Must be my drivin style.LOL. Maybe the track set up. That triple is straight up.

Got speed
I ve been replacing manifold gaskets on my jet boat and I got a sunburn from hell Saturday. I wasnt in that
"sit in thee sun" mood. :( I'll be there if your going to be there next Saturday. I cant find a small Life jacket that looks cool GS You may need to where one of my older ones. Maybe stuff it up so you look real Buff. I let you know when the boat is safe enough to float LOL. Tony just arrive from Vegas. He was so bumbed that he missed out on last nights racing. Yes fracewah was breaking in his Mugen yesterday. He missed out on the races too. We got to hookmup this comin Saturday. We may go to the track this evening to suffice our addiction. later

pooldoc101
If you find out that that setup works for you let us LMK 2

I gota put some butter on my back now. Whats a second ° burn look like?:D

cave

[RCRACER2471]

I have a question for you guyz. It has to do with my transmission. The thing is that i rebuilt it thinking that i did it the right way but im not sure if this is a problem. The thing is the transmission moves very smoothly but also drags at the same time like the brakes are on. Do you think i rebuilt it wrong?

Also when i un-flooding the engine and pulling the pullstart the wheels were also turning at the same time. Is that normal?

[dkj-M3]

pooldoc101- if you use the traxxas ones you have to drill it out some, cause they are made for the 4/40's. But they still work good.

[maxman142001]

Gotspeed & Cave- What do you guys think about the new track layout now that you have raced on it a couple of times?

Leland

[cave]

RCRACER2471
Could be that you do have the brake draggin. with your radio on and the motor OFF. Give it full throttle then spin the tires. If it doesnt spin freely, you got a problem . Maybe the flywheel or clutch is in wrong or broken clutch sping and and and. I hope its a brake linkage problem. Thats easy to fix. Good luck & HTH

maxman142001
I like it. Its still rough as heck but thats Off Road right. I really do like it. i can slide into the turns at close to full throttle Then get back into it. It has a quad jump thats challenging. A tripple that definatly leaves a mark if you misjudge the landing. A fast straight-away for those full throttle passes. A couple of hairpins and a rough moguls (whoopties) section and table top to jump over into a 90° turn that looks easy but always has exciting moments between racers. a small straight into a hairpin left to an avoid the pipe left right to another hairpin left back to the quad. whoo. I'm sure I missed sumpthin but thats about it.
When you gunna find a ride to SRS. Didnt GS offer to bring ya. If you ever go Bring drinking water. They do offer a fountain but its a long walk from the pits. lol.

cave

[Shady]

Dunno if any of you guys are following the Roar Gas Nats but......this was posted about 10 mins ago

1/10th IS OVER:

Easton-GT
Drake-NT
Stenari-NT
Cavaleri-??

1/8 is just getting underway

even though GT won this track was said to be rough and a losi killer

[Got Speed]

MikeWz- I like those red ball cups too. That's what I'm running everywhere but the rear shock tower I am running the traxxas ends. Is it me or do the red ones break easier than black ones?

cave- Your not the only one. I some how managed to tweak a lunsford TB too on about my 3rd race on the truck at SRS. I'm asking my parents about going out to the lake. They havn't said yet but either way thanks alot for offering. It looks like I'm in the "out crowd" now. LOL you, tony, francewa and half of the other guys run Mugens. lol I'm probably the only guy that runs a picco if you don't count that 7 port RB. In the next few weeks I'll be getting a lap counting system for my B-Day. That will be nice to tune with. I'm getting a new fuel tank. I think my engine starting problems were due to the tank constantly flooding my engine. It seemed it would start up fine If I pinched the fuel line or kept a clip on the pressure line untill I was ready to drive it.

maxman142001- I don't really like it. The tripple is nice but I really prefer a lower speed track with more jumps. I really liked the previous one though. If you need a ride I can probably pick you up like cave mentioned. Just LMK and I can find out. If youre out there look for a red and blue truck with silver lightning. Hopefully I'll see you there.



I'm looking into buying a Team Orion Lap Counting System. If anyone has any comments on this please let me know. If anyone is selling one or knows where I can get one inexpensively please LMK here or @ falcon247@Juno.com

Thanks

edit: I forgot a few things.

[cave]

Got Speed I dont think you'll ever be in the"OUT CROWD". Your Picco is gunna rip. I had so many problems with the OG tank. I cut and trim and pinched. Finally I broke down and bought the new version fuel tank. No problems since. Francewah sent his broken Titanium TB's to lundfords and they sent him all new ones. Thats service! I thought the supers would hold up. I need to settle down and stop having so much fun...

RCRACER2471 How did your problem turn out? Get the new tank that has a pressure fitting built into the filler lid. That model replaced the old flooder fuel tank.

cave

[jswinkos]

don't go to captured ends. ball cups were designed to pop off to prevent breaking other parts. Everybody I know that went to captured ball cups were breaking spindles or shock towers left and right. What I do is buy RPM ball cups and buy an extra bag of them, when they start to show signs of wearing I replace them one of a time. For me, the back ones only wear due to them being the only ones that come off alot for me to clean, adjust diff, etc., my fronts hardly get touched.

just my .02

[rhcsavage21]

what are the best tires to use for this.
i was thinking of the dirt paws from proline or the trac-ta gators.
what do you guys think?

[maxman142001]

Gotspeed- I am going to be out there this thursday. The past couple of weeks I have been really busy, but now I can finally drive to the track in my own car! Hopefully I can make it out there this Sat. too.

Leland

[RCRACER2471]

cave- the brakes arent dragging or anything so ill probly have to take apart my whole transmission again to check it out. I never replaced the thrust bearings or the ones that go on the diff. could that be the problem or did i just build it wrong?

I already have the tank. I didnt put it on yet because a lot of my chassis screws are stripped and im trying to figure out how to get them off without causing a lot of damage.

[isa268]

what is the part number of the Drake Pipe and the new low slung RE manafold. thanks

matt

[T-maxx 4eva]

well how fast would the car go if i put a RB X12 engine in it?
a lot faster?:confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused:

[rhcsavage21]

Originally posted by rhcsavage21
what are the best tires to use for this.
i was thinking of the dirt paws from proline or the trac-ta gators.
what do you guys think?
well?

[jswinkos]

quote:
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Originally posted by rhcsavage21
what are the best tires to use for this.
i was thinking of the dirt paws from proline or the trac-ta gators.
what do you guys think?
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well?





Well what, what are you talking about using it on? You can't expect an answer to a question like that and get it in 3 hours during the day. Use some sense and be patient

[cave]

rhcsavage21

Yes . No. Maybe, It may work :D

cave

[rhcsavage21]

Originally posted by jswinkos
quote:
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Originally posted by rhcsavage21
what are the best tires to use for this.
i was thinking of the dirt paws from proline or the trac-ta gators.
what do you guys think?
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well?





Well what, what are you talking about using it on? You can't expect an answer to a question like that and get it in 3 hours during the day. Use some sense and be patient

well sorry. just asking. and i am talking about short grass,dirt,wood chip, and small pebbels.

[MikeWz]

T-maxx4eva-I don't recommend the X12. It will rip on the top, maybe too much, and if you decide to race you'll be way behind the others off the line. It's not exactly the best off-road engine. It's mean more for TC's and what not.

[isa268]

Originally posted by MikeWz
T-maxx4eva-I don't recommend the X12. It will rip on the top, maybe too much, and if you decide to race you'll be way behind the others off the line. It's not exactly the best off-road engine. It's mean more for TC's and what not.

anyone know if the new V12 would be good for off road or would i be better off with a MT12?

matt

[MikeWz]

Definatly got with the MT12. Oh man. So much power. The torque just never stops. It's rediculous. They last a long time. The carbs are great too, as long as you get the slide. The rotary carb sucks the big one.

[Got Speed]

cave- lol, yea. I love it already even though it still isn't broken-in already. I still have about 2 more "race pace" tanks. I still have that bent TB. I'll have to send it in to them. I don't know how I managed to do it. Probably about 4 tracks ago trying to get that tripple right. :p

jswinkos- Those of us who go to captured ends arn't going due to the ball cups breaking but due to the ball studs breaking. I only run them on my rear shock tower so if it has enough of an impact it will still pop the remaining ball cup off and not break the axel carrier or shock tower. I don't know why the rear axel carrier studs don't break very often!?

rhcsavage21- You need to tell us on what you are going to run it on for us to give you a good idea as to what tire to use. But yes the tires you mentioned will work pretty well on the surface you posted. Dirt Hawgs and many other "large treaded" tires out there will also work well.

T-maxx 4eva- I can't really give you a speed because I have no way to test one but I would give you a ball park figure. Guessing somewhere in the 40s. The X-12 has a good amount of power(probably a little more than the CV-R but a little less than the
MT-12) and has an excellent top-end.

isa268- I'm sorry I don't know anything about the V12 but for racing the MT-12 is a very good choice as are others but you may want to do a search for it on the Nitro Forum.

[cave]

For those who like me, like alittle info on engines. I got this from this forum a while back
Nitro review on engines (http://www.nitroreview.com/compare/homeengines.cfm)

MikeWz Easy on the MT 12 Too many people out there are getting them. I'm loosing my edge LOL. Its already dull:D

Got Speed Will Lundsford replace the bent ones too? Man looks like I'll have a full set soon if that is true. YeeeeeeeeeeHaw.

rhcsavage21 J/K bro. For grass I like the the Losi step pins and the Pro Line dirt hawgs. Loose dirt and wood chips again Losi step pins. I dont know what Proline has to offer for loom and real dirt.Use caution when running through the pebles. If one gets caught inbetween the spur gear and clutch gear your gunna be pissed! HTH

cave:p

[Racin Rev]

I finally figured out what the problem with my CVRX that wouldn't start. I took the carb restrictor off and it fired up with no problem. Does anyone have any explanations for this or what mod i can make to the restrictor to make it work?

[Got Speed]

cave- Weren't you talking about lunsford? Yes, they do have a lifetime warranty. The drake TBs are lunsford.

The website cave mentioned is great. It's got info on more than just engines too.

[MikeWz]

Cave-That's an excellent web-site. Lots of good info other than just the engines, as GS stated. Sorry, I'll work on the MT12 problem

Hey guys...about that MT12...yeah, it's okay I guess, why do you get a Trx pro.12. Now that's the stuff. Yep trx pro 12. Best racing engine out there ;)

Lol

[Got Speed]

Racing engines!? There all in name. The real deal is in a duratrax dt12. LOL

[offroadcrazy01]

WHERE CAN I BUY A MT12 AT ON LINE FOR A GOOD PRICE ACE-HOBBIES WANT 170.00 HOW MUCH DID YOU GUYS PAY

[Got Speed]

offroadcrazy01- Look on ebay. You can get new ones for about $150. Ive seen them sell for as little as $110 new though.

[isa268]

Originally posted by isa268
what is the part number of the Drake Pipe and the new low slung RE manafold. thanks

matt

well anyone??

matt

[cave]

Gs, MikeWz you guys are funny:D
I ment Lunsford the "d" comes from another company I do business with.:rolleyes:
I'de stick w/ the mach.15 It rips...

that MT .12 is a pain to tune.:D

cave

[Saboteur]

Hey all. Looks like I'm a brand new owner of a LOSI SPORT NT RTR! WOOOOOOOO! It looks so DAMN beautiful sitting here on the floor w/ XR2 AM radio. The guy's bro at this small LHS here had one, so we went for a ride to his place, took a look at it, as well as his other collection and stuff in the basement and brought it back to the lhs. The owner said he'll give it to me for $200. I walked, well quite fast, back to my place, got the cash and went down to get it. Put it in a bag, and snagged a taxi ride home. BTW, he told me to keep the NEO TNT as if someone bought it, and they'd have to keep asking him for parts and all. I dont blame him, as Id have to ask him for to get em for me if I wanted to race it. Now, I have something all LHS's will have parts for, and not only that, but a ride thats racable and... TRULY a pro racer . :cool: :D X1000!!

[jasonrcfreak]

that Megatech .16 is the shiznit! :D

[dkj-M3]

Originally posted by isa268
well anyone??

matt

LOS9347 Losi, XXX-NT MANIFOLD SET for rear exhaust, non-pullstart engines

[RCRACER2471]

Originally posted by jasonrcfreak
that Megatech .16 is the shiznit! :D

Man if you gona dis an engine atleast get it right. It the .15 Mach you shizznitter!! j/k :p

[Saboteur]

Both engines are awesome, though I may sell the M16 w/ NEO TNT on Ebay to get more cash for it all..LOL...or should I keep it...well both..hmm. Anyway the Losi is REALLY smooth..however when I turn the wheels and push the car from the rear I hear a slight grinding noise like..tinglinlinglingling. If you have the losi and hold one wheel down and turn the other you know what I mean. Is this ok? :confused:

[Got Speed]

For racing either engine will be fine but if you really want that race engine I would sell both engines. As for the grinding make sure you spur gear and clutch bell are clean and meshed properly. If they are then you will have to take apart your tranny and inspect the gear especially the diff.

[Shady]

Originally posted by MikeWz
T-maxx4eva-I don't recommend the X12. It will rip on the top, maybe too much, and if you decide to race you'll be way behind the others off the line. It's not exactly the best off-road engine. It's mean more for TC's and what not. \

thats funny my X12 has a crapload of bottom end, i am never beat on starts and get out of the cornors better than most....its all in the tuners hand and pipes and so much more, , its funny i ran my stock CV 2 weeks ago and the thing ran around 200 and was better off the cornors and faster down the front strait then my buddy's MT12

[Saboteur]

Seen a GT RTR in the LHS today ith an RB X12. :eek: with some proline road tires I believe. Anyway I'll find a day to run this beauty (sport NT rtr) and let you all know how I like it...well Ialready do. :D

[MikeWz]

Hmmmm, either he has a very restrictive pipe, or it's not tuned very well quite yet. The CV has so much less power that it's not even funny. It doesn't have much more power than Traxxas' Pro .15

Saboteur-Congrats on the ride man. I know you've been wanting one. It's always nice when you wait, and finally get what you've been waiting for. I'm in the process of waiting for something myself, but it's a bit different than R/C. Looking forward to seeing how it works out. About the grinding. Check to make sure the diff is adjusted properly. Make sure it's not overtightened, and also check that your gears are meshed properly. Good luck with it!!!

[cave]

its funny i ran my stock CV 2 weeks ago and the thing ran around 200 and was better off the cornors and faster down the front strait then my buddy's MT12

What? Did I read this right. Proof the MT .12 is not a fast motor .HE he he he he :D

Saboteur
You got X, Triple X nt. welcome to the world of Losi addiction. Your gunna love it!!! altho that grinding deal dont sound to good. check your break linklage also. It may be dragging too much. As MikeWZ & Got Speed said. Hope its simple. The diff aint no big thing. After youve done it once or twice or like me more than a few times...

Got Speed you going racing Saturday?

cave

[2Fast2Fury]

Hi guys, I recently bought a xxx-nt and I plan on racing it once I get it together; but I am not a fan of the stock yellow rims at all. I was wondering if the RPM clawz rims are any good for using to race off road. I like the chrome look, and would much rather use those than the stock ones. Will I be at a disadvantage by using these? Thanks in advance.

[cave]

2Fast2Fury
ever here that saying "chrome wont get you home"?. I like the Yellow rims cuz I can seez my truck when its way down yander.
I do however bend alot of the stock rims. Too bad Losi dosnt make a bead lock type rim like Associated does. Maybe there watching and reading too. Losi I want Bead locks. Yea with dish ends on both side to repell dirt. Yea. and you can still make em in the same yellow/ chartruse color so I can see it far away. A bright blue would be Nice.:D Just my humble Opinion

Hmmmm, either he has a very restrictive pipe, or it's not tuned very well quite yet. The CV has so much less power that it's not even funny. It doesn't have much more power than Traxxas' Pro .15

MikeWz run with it. LOL....

cave

[2Fast2Fury]

Cave, thanks for the reply.
You have a good point there about being able to see the truck with the yellow rims better from afar. I haven't been racing in 12 years so I didn't remember that aspect of it. RPM rims are gauranteed against breaking and dirt does not supposedly get trapped on the inside like the losi ones. I guess I just like the more realistic look of the chrome. What's the disadvantages of using these rims do you think? Thanks again. Oh yeah, they have the blue chrome ones too, that like really good and might be easier to spot on the track?

[cave]

2Fast2Fury

If you like that chrome stuff and they are bullett proof, Go for it. I watched the races before I got hooked. I asked people the same questions and there reply was this. Spend you hard earned money on things that improve your trucks race-worthyness. The Losi rims are fine. If your racing in mud then they would suck. Hey If you really like the chrome ones Then Go for it. Who knows you may have the right set up. Hey if they work LMK!!!!!!!

cave

[Got Speed]

2Fast2Fury- There are no disadvantages if you are racing on a normal track(not mud) other than price and it may be harder to see as cave mentioned.

[MikeWz]

2Fast-They probably will be pretty difficult to see, because as they get dirty the get greyish brown. Not so shiney anymore. And I had a set of the traxxas ones on a rusty. Damm, those boys were heavy. Much heavier than the regular dish rims, and remember rotating mass accounts for 3 times more weight than static mass. That's a big deal.

Cave-Yeah, I mean, about that MT12. I dont' know why I recommended it to you. I didn't really have one when I got it. Infact I just bought one, and it sucks. Oh what a jerk I am :D

Those old CV engines have TONS of power. Highly recommend :p

[Shady]

Mike-we both were running drake pipes, the CV is one of the best motors out there, i have never been beatin because i couldn''t hang with anyone cause i was running a CV....as far as the MT12 goes i don't know to much about them sense i have seen 3 guys run them and all have pulled them out because they didn't like them so i never bothered to try one

[MikeWz]

YES...More proof the MT12 sucks :p ;) :D

[Shady]

Ahh, now i remember why i don't come to this board that often, dude i never said the MT12 sucks, i just said it wasn't liked around here, damn i off to real rc boards where the people arn't such asses

[Got Speed]

MikeWz- Hmm I didn't think they weighed more than dish wheels?
That could be a dissadvanatge then but it could also be an advantage depending on how and where you run.

[MikeWz]

GS-Yeah, they are a good bit heavier than the dish's. They need to be much thicker not to break, so, despite the big spaces between the rims, are a good bit heavier. This could be an advantage if you run on loose dirt, but don't drive too hard or you probably will break them.

[Saboteur]

Originally posted by Got Speed
For racing either engine will be fine but if you really want that race engine I would sell both engines. As for the grinding make sure you spur gear and clutch bell are clean and meshed properly. If they are then you will have to take apart your tranny and inspect the gear especially the diff.


For sure the gear mesh is fine. When the car is going straight if you push it, the truck rolls... SOO smooth. But if one wheel in the rear turns faster or more than the other say going in a turn, thats when you gear the little grinding noise. I'll check out the diff as well as clean the car. Thnx :)

[Saboteur]

Originally posted by MikeWz
Hmmmm, either he has a very restrictive pipe, or it's not tuned very well quite yet. The CV has so much less power that it's not even funny. It doesn't have much more power than Traxxas' Pro .15

Saboteur-Congrats on the ride man. I know you've been wanting one. It's always nice when you wait, and finally get what you've been waiting for. I'm in the process of waiting for something myself, but it's a bit different than R/C. Looking forward to seeing how it works out. About the grinding. Check to make sure the diff is adjusted properly. Make sure it's not overtightened, and also check that your gears are meshed properly. Good luck with it!!!

Thnx man! I really LOVE IT!:D It's not really raining outside now so I may go out l8er for a little spin. My glow ignitor is charged and ready to go. Gonna give the truck another inspection before I head out. To bad its gonna rain till Sat :(

[MikeWz]

Stopped raining for a bit here too. I'll have to drop my Mach back in for a bit though. Still no starter box back from Ofna yet :(
I don't even know if I'll ever see that bad boy again. Good luck with the truck. It really is a great ride

Anybody in here got an extra starter box by chance?

[cave]

Shady
MikeWz isnt making fun of you! Its a joke between Himself and I.
I got an MT and love it. He does too. I mean he has Two. Proof they rip. Your fellow racers may have had a bad batch of MT's or they dont know how to tune. If your betting MT's you probably drive real good. Its not the CV! I told a frien he told a frien and now everyone I know has one . Competition was tough enough without those people who I race with regularly! now Its even tougher cause they bought Mugen MT .12 eeeeeeeerrrrrrrrrr
all sept Got Speed, he has to be different LOL... He still rips!!!
Dont leave cause of that Shady. We acually try real hard to help others who drive these Losi's...

cave

[pooldoc101]

Hey guys, I run a rb X-12 5 port turbo, and I admit it's not real strong on bottom end, but I tweaked the clutch so it hits later and now she rips off the line! I bend a lot of losi rims too, so I switched to associated, and they bend up too. Same with prolines. Maybe its my driving? I do wish someone would come out with a beadlock for our trucks, why should Maxx drivers be the lucky ones? I refuse to run wobbly wheels and am getting tired of throwing away perfectly good tires just because the wheels are bent! And give Shady a break, we are all entitled to our opinions and I,ve seen trucks at our track with OS cv-rs smoke everybody. Pooldoc

[Got Speed]

Shady- Like cave said no one is making fun of you. MikeWz, cave, and myself were joking about more and more people that get high end engines. The CV is a good engine but no way will it be better than an MT-12 in regards to power and speed. You were probably powering into the corners much harder than him or he had his engine out of tune. Also as cave said we are here to try and help everyone out and talk about our RC experiences and troubles.

[cave]

pooldoc101

I do hope Proline, Losi or qny one out there in our sport will come up with a better rim. It may be the the whole rear assembly that has to be reworked. I bent my new rims 2 weekends ago in the first race. That blows. But It may be a way for them to make money... Why fix it. I hope this is not true. I think Losi could come up with a better wheel. Heck they have some awsome drivers who I'm sure help with research. Maybe if they were givin two sets of rims only. Rather than the multiple sets they get. These research moments would be better for those of us who are not sponcered. Justa thought
pooldoc101 and anyone else who thinks we are picking on any one.
I know for a fact that the others I chat with on this forum are and have been more that helpful. You are one of the these people. If Shady comes back he can read the post above and see that the Joke about the MT is a joke between me and MikeWz. I think this Motor is awsome! I like Got Speeds New Picco. I tried to get Got Speed to purchase a Mugen but he got a smoking deal on his Picco. I have been beat be my nephew Tony with his old now sold CV motors. It was his driving and not the Motor! I'm not a sensitive person myself so I didnt think I was baggen on Shady! Its the Mugen I was joking about with MikeWz. If you have read this forum as I know most of you have you Know How I feel about this motor. Alot of people who have seen my truck run along with Vino Jr ( HE IS FAST ) and alot of other locals at SRS know that I tell everone that this motor is well worth the price. The joke is how Mike and I constantly tell others how awsome this motor is and how many people have bought them cause of us raging on how awsome they are.
Shady I wasnt picking on you or any other motor. I was joking with MikeWz. Alot of people now own this little powerhouse and they tell me how happy they are. Thanks MikeWz for your recamendation. I'm done .LOL. :p

GS you going to be at SRS? sorry to get ya involved bro. Thanks for your support:)

cave

[jasonrcfreak]

Well, I got a Collari-Picco .12 for my NT. I know Collari is not currently making engnines, but it was too good of a deal to pass up. It's a rear ex., rotary carb version. I'm gonna continue to run my Fantom til I finish the gallon of fuel I'm on and then the Collari goes in. Can't wait to see how it does. :D

[RCRACER2471]

Does anyone know if the GT bodies fit on the XNT?

Thanx

[cave]

jasonrcfreak Ive seen that motor run It hauls. Anytime you can get a awsome motor for a great price you got to do it. Besides that is a fast motor for our trucks.

cave