XXX-S Forum v2.0

[speedy gonnalo]

What color spur gear should I use? I know that each different color is a different size. Oh, gotta get this one out. My LHS that I used to race at is

closing . That means no new motor, no new body,no new batteries. I did get some new rims for it and I will get pics of em on my xxx-s later on in life!

[JR in NC]

Spur Gears,

Red---86t 48p
green-- 88t 48p
orange--90t 48p
yellow---118t 64p
blue----128t 64p
All this info is on the Losi website.

Spur gear selection depends on the pinions you have on hand, and the track you race on.

No, I don't have any spares to send you.

Just my thoughts.



JR

[spenzalii]

As far as mail order goes, speedy, try Horizon Hobbies. They accept mail order (800-338-4639). You can go online or use their catalogue (I have a spare f you really want it)

[yeeehaw]

I just got the mitsubuishi body from HPi. it will be sweet when i get done with it. I heard the spur gear adapter is not what it is cracked up to be. I just got a cheapo ESC (spike) It will do good on my stock motor. The guy at the Hobby town usa in spring field is really stupid. I knew more than him witch is not good. I helped a few guys with planes cars(electric, Nitro) motors and electronics wich is cool because i want to work in a hobby shop for my first job. I also am going to design these and be an automobile designer for Ferrari or Audi in the Indy and Lemans department. I made 1st string offensive guard and I will also play deffensive right tackle.
Well I have to go
matt

[fast-rc]

sounds like a tight plan. I love Lemans and Indy ( just my 2 cents;) ).

Any recommendations for stock motors. I tend to lean into the already tunned one, like fantom or birdman etc...... What seems to be the hot stock motor at your track or wat not?

[LouisB]

The fantom limited edition stocks are great, always fast with little tuning (if any) and either the P2K2 or Monster stock should be great depending on track length.

One of the guys I race with is going to Le Mans (France) to race his Caterham 7 this year:cool:

[speedy gonnalo]

Does anybody know what color spur gear is the best? I know that each color is a different size.


Thanks,
Ryan

[speedy gonnalo]

Hey, I should have pics of my car with the new rims and tires in the same day.

[LouisB]

Do you have 48dp or 64dp pinions? If you haven't got a selection of pinions then go for a 48dp spur as they are more durable and buy some pinions while you're at it. Are you racing or bashing? What motor?

[speedy gonnalo]

OK

[speedy gonnalo]

Originally posted by LouisB
Do you have 48dp or 64dp pinions? If you haven't got a selection of pinions then go for a 48dp spur as they are more durable and buy some pinions while you're at it. Are you racing or bashing? What motor?

I am running a monsters of touring 19t double with the stock pinion. What color are the 48dp spur gears?

[JR in NC]

The pinion is the gear that attaches to the shaft of the motor that meshes with the colored spur gear, what size (how many teeth does your pinion have there is a # on the back of the gear) . What color is your current spur gear. The stock Spur gear that comes with a XXX-S is an 88 tooth 48 pitch spur(yellow). To my knowledge there is no stock pinion gear that comes with a Monster stock motor.




JR

[AznJunkie]

I think Speedy meant to say the stock pinion from his RTR. I think he has a RTR if I'm not mistaken. The stock pinion for the RTR is 24t and the stock spur is a 88t (yellow).

[JR in NC]

Thanks, I had no idea what the pinion on the RTR was I've always built kits.

If that is the case , then the 24p kinda underpowers him some. He would probably be better off with a 22p or a 21p, given he has a 88 tooth spur gear. He needs a final gear ratio of something between 7.0 and 7.5. That said if he is racing inside he needs to rethink completely and check the Losi website for carpet setups including gearing suggestions.

Now, that I've said that he needs to watch the motor temp. so that it doesn't get above 180 degrees so that he does not burn up the brushes or comm.

There are so many variables to motor maintainance that you can write a book, and then some.



JR

[thedominator]

I just ordered a graphite +. What would be a good pinion for a 13t speed gem and I'll be racing on a small parking lot track.:) I have a 16 t laying around but is that too small:confused:

[JR in NC]

Whoa Guys!

I'm not going to sit here and figure everyones spur gear and pinion setups. In the old XXX-S manual there is a chart of suggested pinion setups for different turn motors look it up your selves, or use the algebraic equation and figure your own final gear ratios.

Spur divided by pinion multiplied by 1.83 = final gear ratio

(1.83=the gear ratio of the XXX-S)


Come on guys! Do your own homework!!!!



JR

[speedy gonnalo]

Thanx

[TSR6]

Originally posted by JR in NC
Whoa Guys!

I'm not going to sit here and figure everyones spur gear and pinion setups. In the old XXX-S manual there is a chart of suggested pinion setups for different turn motors look it up your selves, or use the algebraic equation and figure your own final gear ratios.

Spur divided by pinion multiplied by 1.83 = final gear ratio

(1.83=the gear ratio of the XXX-S)


Come on guys! Do your own homework!!!!



JR

How many times have i posted that in this thread? :p too many, thats for sure, ask louis of spenz. ;)

[thedominator]

thanx . i don't have the kit yet so i was just asking, so i can get a pinion while i was in the there. Does a 8.235 final ratio sound like it will work good with the 13t:confused: i'm pretty new to electric so i don't know much about ratios and so-on.

[JR in NC]

I know I'm going to hate myself for asking. What size spur gear?What size pinion? No, 8.235 doesn't sound to swift.






Try again grasshopper






JR

[LouisB]

Originally posted by TSR6
How many times have i posted that in this thread? :p too many, thats for sure, ask louis of spenz. ;)

too true, maybe you should quote yourself every 10 post just to save time in the long run;)

[sixandeightstringer]

We've got a gear ratio calculator on our website at SixFootTiger.com (http://www.sixfoottiger.com/admin/index.cfm?fuseaction=admin.gear_ratio) - just enter in your desired ratio, and it will tell you what combo to use based on your spur gear - it has the internal ratios set up for most major cars, including the XXX-S.

[thedominator]

90t spur 20t pinion

[sixandeightstringer]

Is there any alternative to the Matt Francis aluminum spur gear adapter if I want to use aftermarket spur gears? anyone?

[JR in NC]

Please review Speedy's quick lesson on motors! Than try again I will not give you the answer!



1. I don't know anything about the characteristics of a speed gem modified.
2. If your just starting out why not use a stock motor?
3.Try the Losi website first.
4.Try again grasshopper




JR

[thedominator]

i'll figure it out....eventually. The reason I don't want stock is because they don't have a stock class at my track. They put all electric tc's together.

[LouisB]

Originally posted by sixandeightstringer
Is there any alternative to the Matt Francis aluminum spur gear adapter if I want to use aftermarket spur gears? anyone?

The only other adapter I know of is the Fastrax gear adapter. It's a small machined alum plate anodized blue with a delrin pulley screwed on one side and an 88 tooth spur on the other side. I've used it for a while, but prefer the light weight of molded losi ones.
Because the gears have to fit over the top shaft and bearing the centre of the gear must be fairly large, I had to drill out some gears a bit. I've used a RW Racing gear, it worked fine wiht minimal drilling, and a Kimbrough gear, it required quite a bit of drilling but turned out OK. The only problem is that the 4 screws that hold the gear onto the pulley are countersunk and you will have to countersink the holes on the spur gear you choose to use.

http://www.cmldistribution.co.uk/images/ftxs_02.JPG

CML (http://www.cmldistribution.co.uk/fast_xxxs.htm)

[spenzalii]

Well, that will be a bit of a pain. I guess it's the Matt dealie then...

TRS6: I guess it's true what they say,

R eading
I s
F undamental:p

With the Losi guidelines, you can usually drop a tooth or 2 depending on the motor and get a bit more acceleration, but don't overdo it...

[TSR6]

spenzalii - LOL, agreed.

Louis - Good idea.

XXXS RATIO = ( Spur / Pinion ) * 1.83

Have a nice day.

-Troy

[JR in NC]

Check your pm






JR

[sixandeightstringer]

Originally posted by LouisB
The only other adapter I know of is the Fastrax gear adapter. It's a small machined alum plate anodized blue with a delrin pulley screwed on one side and an 88 tooth spur on the other side.
http://www.cmldistribution.co.uk/images/ftxs_02.JPG

CML (http://www.cmldistribution.co.uk/fast_xxxs.htm)

Cool - didn't know about that one. Is there anyone in the US that carries the Fastrax stuff? I'd also like to get the Lexan underbody (for my XXX-R) and a couple pairs of the delrin diff halves...

[sixandeightstringer]

This just in!

Alloy spur adaptor HERE (http://www.precisionrc.com/#tx)

[sixandeightstringer]

http://www.precisionrc.com/pic/jet/th/24t.jpg

Looks cool, only $17... I'm going to try it.

[LouisB]

sweet:D None of this trinity rubbish;)

[speedy gonnalo]

What is up with that?

[JR in NC]

Think about it!!!!





Try again grasshopper.





JR

[speedy gonnalo]

Originally posted by TSR6
spenzalii - LOL, agreed.

Louis - Good idea.

XXXS RATIO = ( Spur / Pinion ) * 1.83

Have a nice day.

-Troy

Since when have you been an rc zone addict and not a moderater,TSR6 ?

[speedy gonnalo]

Why can somebody not tell me what color spur gear is the best for indoors racing as in carpet?

[JR in NC]

Old stuff for kiddies under 14 repeated every ten threads .The equation for FGR tattooed on their palms, and motor maintainance reccommendations on their laptops. And read the instruction manual first at the top of every page.

Please TSR6, hear my plea. Oh great moderator, for I fear I lose my temper with the wee ones.


Before I lose what is left of my minimal brain cells,HELP!!!!!!



Just my pleadings.




JR

[JR in NC]

FOR the very last time. check www.teamlosi.com go to setups and look for a carpet setup by Kinwald or Hodges. They will give you a complete setup INCLUDING SPUR GEAR SELECTION AND PINION SELECTION ,just because it works for them does not mean it will work for you.

Be prepared to change everything on your car from shock oil to springs to spur gear pitch and pinion pitch. also most carpet tracks require foam tires and a minimum ride height.

For someone who has no $$$$$ this will be expensive.



I'm pleading with you TSR6.



JR



"BLUE"

[LouisB]

Methinks JR's goin' crrrrrazzzy:) keep up the good work:cool:

[JR in NC]

Done gone around the bend and back again, I've got a 14 year old boy and a 7 year old girl. My 14 year old knows more about our cars and the geometry and gearing than I do. So I get frustrated by young ones who just don't listen.





Just looking for my brain cells and that other cup of coffee.




JR

[LouisB]

Yeah, I know a few kids who are exactly the same. I end up spending so much time setting up their cars that I don't get enough time to set up my own.

[sixandeightstringer]

Originally posted by speedy gonnalo
Why can somebody not tell me what color spur gear is the best for indoors racing as in carpet?

I'm thinking that it's the pink one. If you can't find the pink one at your local store or online, I guess you're screwed.

[speedy gonnalo]

wow

[speedy gonnalo]

This is so stupid. Every time i get on this site and come here it doesn't show the new posts until i reply to a topic.

[JR in NC]

The answer my wee one is 6 entries up. Can you count?






I've lost my mind





JR

[sixandeightstringer]

Originally posted by speedy gonnalo
This is so stupid. Every time i get on this site and come here it doesn't show the new posts until i reply to a topic.

There should be a setting in your browser to "check for a new version of this page each time I visit" or something like that - make sure that it is checked - otherwise, you're just seeing the cached pages that are saved to your computer's hard drive instead of the actual, updated page.

[jkerr0043]

If this is "so stupid" and nobody can help you, why do you even try?

[yeeehaw]

The last day of school just rolled aroud and the school did not like my xxx-s except for the video it was in. They made a video and it was about a kid in tech ed whos eraser was dropped on top of the car and the car takes off. The hallways are sweet for drifting with medium traction tires. we had to use the soda and sugar trick and spray some on the right side of thehallway because the car was drifting so far out. It seemed loose so i had to use hard springs. and we had to take two scenes. One was drifting out of the tech ed room and one going through the halls and out side.
It was pretty cool using my car in the movie that was shown in the morning announcements.

I am going to race my xxx-s and my micro this summer.
I heared the gp arms break easily in cold weather. would allumenium arms work if I compen sated for it with gearing and weight. I think the Hampton track is a small type track so I will gear it up about 2-3 teeth and use my 27 turn.
I am going to football camp monday so I will all tuckered out.

P.S. my car was the center of attention after my video debut. The seemed to love it until they heared how much they cost and how much you have to invest. but they loved the drifting action and the speed.

se ya
Matt

[LouisB]

I would stay away from alum arms, if you break lots of graphite ones then give the standard composite a try.

[thedominator]

I'm sorry for being a newb and causing you to lose your mind.:( I'll probably just get a couple pinions and try them out.

[TSR6]

Originally posted by speedy gonnalo
Since when have you been an rc zone addict and not a moderater,TSR6 ?

As of 5/28/03 around 1:00.

Originally posted by JR in NC
Please TSR6, hear my plea. Oh great moderator, for I fear I lose my temper with the wee ones.

Nothing I can do. I've done my time, I'm just a normal member like you now.

Originally posted by speedy gonnalo
This is so stupid. Every time i get on this site and come here it doesn't show the new posts until i reply to a topic.

You are using the site incorrectly. If you press Alt + F + C ( or if you are on AOL, Alt + F + X ) , it will fix your problem.

Originally posted by yeeehaw
I am going to race my xxx-s and my micro this summer.
I heared the gp arms break easily in cold weather. would allumenium arms work if I compen sated for it with gearing and weight. I think the Hampton track is a small type track so I will gear it up about 2-3 teeth and use my 27 turn.
I am going to football camp monday so I will all tuckered out.


I disagree. I find the composite parts to be just as strong as the stiffezel parts, and I feel that sometimes they are stronger. I know that contridicts just about everything known about graphite impregnated parts, but I know a couple guys I race with think the same..

As far as Aluminum parts go, I dislike them. Unless they serve a purpose, such as cooling, or you need extra strength, then yes Aluminum is good. For suspension parts, I would stay away from them. Aluminum bends, and it's not always noticable. Just a small tweak in the arm could throw off your whole setup.

Not only that, but the aluminum only passes on the hit to other parts. Instead of breaking a $7 arm, You might bend a $9 hinge pin ( not sure on true cost, just guessing.. ).

-Troy

[AussieSam]

Hi,

Some pics of my XXX-S - Honda Accord.

http://homes.jcu.edu.au/~jc125065/accordFront.jpg http://homes.jcu.edu.au/~jc125065/accordSide.jpg

What is a good ride height setting for a smooth parking lot with excellent traction?

What ratio for a Trinity Monster Pro motor?

What are the kit tyres like?

Regards,
Sam.

[TSR6]

Originally posted by AussieSam
Hi,

Some pics of my XXX-S - Honda Accord.


What is a good ride height setting for a smooth parking lot with excellent traction?

Regards,
Sam.

5mm

[AussieSam]

Hi,

I am having trouble setting the ride height that low. My car has standard shocks not threaded. It is a spec XXX with a full complement of graphite.

Regards,
Sam.

[sixandeightstringer]

Originally posted by AussieSam
Hi,

I am having trouble setting the ride height that low. My car has standard shocks not threaded. It is a spec XXX with a full complement of graphite.

Regards,
Sam.


You need ride height like THIS!

http://www.sixfoottiger.com/images/gallery/930.jpg

Just kidding. Anyone else done a XXX-S to XXX-R (Rally) conversion? Check out my details HERE (http://www.sixfoottiger.com/articles/xxxr/xxxr.cfm)

[JR in NC]

Interesting since my son and I have been looking at off-roading. The one question I have is do you run with the buggies or the spec trucks or are you lucky enough to have a class of your own?

Unfortunately, around these parts it's buggies or trucks or nitro, rally has not caught on at all even though several have tried.

With the conversions it looks like you can still take the car back to the TC track,yes I know you've taken out the droop limiters,even without them with shock loading and and a few other tricks It looks like you've got the best of both worlds. Congrats!!!! :) :)


Just out looking for my marbles. Did he really ask for gearing ideas for a Trinity Monster!(don't they ever read prior postings)


Are you using a stocker in your XXX-R



JR

[sixandeightstringer]

Yes, we're lucky enough to have a dedicated rally crew at SJCCR (http://www.sjccr.com) (South Jersey Cost Controlled Racing) and they run a pretty wicked occasional rally-only event at BarnStormers (http://www.barnstormersrc.com), which is about 3 hours from me (but worth the trip for such a cool event).

I could conceivably swap back and forth between rally and TC if I wanted to, but I do have two dedicated XXX-S cars for touring. With the amount of dirt that gets into the car, as well as the intracacies of tuning for asphalt, there'd be no way I'd be able to remotely keep up with the fast guys at our track were I to do that. My initial reasoning behind converting the XXX-S (rather than continuing to use my Rally Weapon, or getting an HPI or something) was so that I could have one common parts bin and similar cars to keep track of. Plus, the XXX-S is fast as hell on the track, and handles really well!

I do use a stocker in the rally car; currently I've got an old Orion Chrome in there that is really kicking butt. Our Rally class is stock motors only...

A rally car is also a great "basher" car, as you can run on pavement or gravel or dirt or even handle some moderate jumping, and it is pretty "at home" on all of those surfaces.

[JR in NC]

Make perfect sense to me. Almost bought a Schuie Mission for the Nationals which are only 30 minutes away, but thought better of it because I already had 2 XXX-S's and just didn't want to have to start a new extra parts bin so I spent the $ on exta parts for the Nats. only to end up with reconstructive knee surgery next week. No way I can stand the rigors of 4 days of racing. I'll be there, but no racing I guess I'll help Don and the gang probably work the Speedshop.

Dang I'm going to miss it, my son doesn't want to miss scout camp because he can get his last 2 eagle required merit badges or he'd be racing, at least I could race through him.


Oh well, now I saw my marbles a minute ago.




JR in NC

[sixandeightstringer]

Oh, and here's the body I just painted for the XXX-R, complete with custom logo:

http://www.sixfoottiger.com/images/gallery/1425.jpg

[AznJunkie]

Nice, but green!!! It’s a XXX “R” shouldn’t it be yellow. :) J/K

Nice work there sixandeightstringer.

[sixandeightstringer]

Originally posted by AznJunkie
Nice, but green!!! It’s a XXX “R” shouldn’t it be yellow. :) J/K

Nice work there sixandeightstringer.
Actually, the inside of the logo (the oval) was yellow; but I didn't backcoat it before I did the green, and the green just totally washed it out. I was bummed. But it still looks good, IMHO.

[TSR6]

Originally posted by AussieSam
Hi,

I am having trouble setting the ride height that low. My car has standard shocks not threaded. It is a spec XXX with a full complement of graphite.

Regards,
Sam.

XXX-S RTR, or XXX-S original version?

You might have troubles with the front shocks.. Im trying to remember what I did before i went to the .28 shocks in the front.

I think I just moved the collar all the way up... not sure.. You'll just have to play with the shocks.

[speedy gonnalo]

.

[smartazz07]

I had the ride hieght problem also, but as soon as I switched to the .28's it was fixed and you have room to tune insted of having the collars all the way up. But until you do get the .28's just put keep em up all the way.

[AussieSam]

Hi,

I have a couple of questions which you might find stupid but to answer a question I could not be bothered going through 50 pages on a dial-up connection to find an answer which may or may not be there.

Anyway with .28 shocks do you mean .28 shock bodies and .28 shafts front and back or a different length on the back.

Regards,
Sam.

[JR in NC]

Sam,

The .28 shock bodies go with the .28 shafts. I've only seen them used on the front with .36's in the rear. Do yourself a big favor and get the threaded shock bodies for both the front and rear, they are much more precise in their loading and keeping them equal. I've gotten to the point that I use Trinity Matt Francis XXX-S shock collars and Trinity Brian Kinwald shock bushings on all my shocks, there just superior products to anything Losi has to offer right now. And much easier to find for me than Losi parts in my part of the U.S.

Don't worry about these kinds of questions. I just got a little crrrrazzy doing Final gear ratios, when there are so many factors involved in gearing choices.



JR

[TSR6]

Just let me toss in a little correction.

You can run .28 bodies and .28 shafts when running High, and the "Losi Low" roll center, which is truely "mid" roll center.

If you buy the Trinity or Speedtech low roll center ( or cut your own, which i did ) You must run the .36 bodies with the .28 shafts, otherwise the shocks will be too short.

-Troy

[JR in NC]

TSR6,
you are exactly correct. I didn't think about that combination when writing to Sam as he had not talked about roll centers and the like.

Thanks oh great and all knowing TSR6,we are all honored to be learning at your feet :D :D :D





JR

[aviaar]

What are the best spare parts to have for the XXX-S?

[TSR6]

Originally posted by aviaar
What are the best spare parts to have for the XXX-S?

Front spindle & castor block
Front lower arm

Rear hub carrier
Rear Arm

Thats about all I've ever broken, all you should need... anything else would be a wild hit...

[LouisB]

Only front arms for me, so far;)

[laxrc]

I recently started racing on a carpet track with a Losi XXXS.

The track is short with many turns. I am running a stock motor.

The question I have is about setting up shocks and springs for improved handling. Would harder springs go in the front or the rear and what about the wt of the oil? What effects would these changes have?

I appreciate any help anyone can give me or any recommendations as to where I could find this info.

Thanks.

[TSR6]

What version of the car do you have? ( RTR/Original or XXX-SGP+ )

What is the car doing, or not doing on the track?

[laxrc]

It's the RTR. Got it 4 months ago. My driveing is getting better and I would like to be able to take the turns quicker and tighter.

The motor is a P2K.

Thanks.

[TSR6]

Originally posted by laxrc
It's the RTR. Got it 4 months ago. My driveing is getting better and I would like to be able to take the turns quicker and tighter.

The motor is a P2K.

Thanks.

What is the car doing? Push? loose? Does it have too much body roll?

Give me a feel for what the car is doing, and i can give you ideas of stuff to try.

-Troy

[laxrc]

The car has been getting looser lately. I've noticed that as i accelerate out of a turn, my car fishtails which makes my setup for the next turn off.

My car doesn't have that much body roll. I don't think it has any at all.

-Eric

[rcmania67]

I want to put a 7 turn mod motor into my XXX-S. What pinion should I use to get the most torque and speed? I want to go fast. Many thanks

Also, I heard something adjusting the belt tension. Is it better to run a little loose, or tight?

[TSR6]

Originally posted by laxrc
The car has been getting looser lately. I've noticed that as i accelerate out of a turn, my car fishtails which makes my setup for the next turn off.

My car doesn't have that much body roll. I don't think it has any at all.

-Eric

Have you tried lighter oil or springs in the rear?

-Troy

[Dj Kumara]

Went to my second ever race meet (informal) on Sunday, and didn't lose, I beat my brother who was cutting corners just to keep up with me! Also on one occasion I clipped a corner and landed on my bro's car who then managed to carry me for at least 8 metres (24 foot).
We raced on a netball court with some markers out. Anyway some guy went wide around one corner and crossed into another lane, where I happened to be and we had a head-on collision all up at about 70kph (about 40 odd mph). The crash broke my bumper :mad: and wasted some of my body, but he broke more on his car, not that I will blame him for the crash, because at the moment we are small club with about 5 people in it.

While I was racing I noticed that my car (G+) loses rear traction while doing on power steering. Someone suggested putting harder springs in the back and the softer up front could fix this, is this true? The instruction manual does not mention spring stiffness in it.

[TSR6]

Originally posted by Dj Kumara
While I was racing I noticed that my car (G+) loses rear traction while doing on power steering. Someone suggested putting harder springs in the back and the softer up front could fix this, is this true? The instruction manual does not mention spring stiffness in it.

Are you pushing? ( front loosing on-power traction? )

that would work...

also you can move the front shocks out on the holes,increase castor.

[NSX-XXS]

I got the XXX-S sport (RTR) a few months ago, then i decided to wallop it off the sofa without the bumper on! i broke the front tower and the chassis :( needless to say i was gutted!

Anyway, My friend recently upgraded to graphite bits, he was not building a 2nd car, so i got the chassis, to look at the 2 you can see the differences! the standard kit is much better, its not as plasticy! the worst thing was that the diff covers when i used the RTR ones with the standard chassis there was a 1cm of movement with the diff! i had to get standard ones so that they didnt move!

just a bit of a rant and rage but mainly to warn people with the rtr about other things they may need to get should the worst happen

I am wondering if i would have been better just gettin the standard kit!

*mutters and goes off to play with new bodyshell*

[laxrc]

Originally posted by TSR6
Have you tried lighter oil or springs in the rear?

-Troy

I heard somewhere that you were supposed to put heavier oil in? Because of what someone recommended, I recently put in 70 weight oil in the front and 60 weight oil in the back.

What color springs do you recommend using?

-Eric

[TSR6]

high roll center, i usually start with 60wt all around, silver all around, or blue front, silver rear

low roll center, blue all around, same oil

[laxrc]

Originally posted by TSR6
high roll center, i usually start with 60wt all around, silver all around, or blue front, silver rear

low roll center, blue all around, same oil

Thanks for your help, but I have one more question. What does low roll or high roll center mean?

Thanks

-Eric

[TSR6]

Originally posted by laxrc
Thanks for your help, but I have one more question. What does low roll or high roll center mean?

Thanks

-Eric

It changes the hinge pin hight compared to the chassis.

Low roll center has the hinge pin closer to the chassis.

High roll center is the stock location with the taller hinge pin blocks.

[speedy gonnalo]

I have good news. My LHS is doing the handout motor plan.;)

[speedy gonnalo]

Originally posted by laxrc
It's the RTR. Got it 4 months ago. My driveing is getting better and I would like to be able to take the turns quicker and tighter.

The motor is a P2K.

Thanks.

Do you race in hammond,louisiana?

[lowbugit]

Hey guys. I just installed a losi front one way and I am allittle confused. Once installed should the front wheels roll freely in reverse or forward. I first put it on the way the instructions read but the front tires rolled freely in the forward direction, and that didnt seem right so I turned it around and now the rear tires roll freely in reverse and the transmission engages when I push it forward. Im not sure which is right ?

[lowbugit]

correction not the rear tires the front tires sorry. Kevin.

[speedy gonnalo]

You need a front one way and yes, the wheels are supposed to turn freely but still be able to turn when you need them to.

At your service,
Ryan

[lowbugit]

Thanks speedy but the question is if you hold the car on the stand should the wheels turn freely forward or in reverse. They will not turn freely in both directions. I am trying to see if I have it in the right way. Thanks for your help. Kevin

[speedy gonnalo]

The wheels are supposed to both turn backwards

[thedominator]

I'm putting together a G+ and i can't get the small screws that hold the bottom belt tunnel cover in w/o stripping out. the L wrenches or a cheap hex driver won't work. who makes a good hex driver that will work :D

[TSR6]

lowbug - The oneway will freewheel when you push the car forwards, or spin the wheels in a forward motion. They will be locked, or engaged when you spin the tires in a reverse motion, or roll the car backwards. The One-Way only engages on-power.

thedom - Losi has a nice hex wrench set. The L wrenchs are, and always have been worthless. Do yourself a favor and pick up a good hex wrench set.

Losi, Dynamite, Hudy, Integy are all good choices.

you need 1/16" , 3/32" and .05"

-Troy
TSR6@RCTech.net

[thedominator]

thanx TSR6
i have some duratrash hexes that work well except for .05" size.
i'll see what my lhs has. He should have one of those brands :)

[Dj Kumara]

thedominator I had the same problem. Been looking for replacements for a couple of months with no success. If you pay for the Losi replacements, you have to buy the whole 'B' bag-including the belt tunnel cover which you probably won't ever need.

[speedy gonnalo]

hmmmmmmmm

[speedy gonnalo]

Hey guys. What do you think about using one of the following pinion gears on my evader which the motor is the motor off of the rtr xxx-s?

15T 48 PITCH
16T 48 PITCH
17T 48 PITCH
18T 48 PITCH
19T 48 PITCH
20T 48 PITCH
THROUGH 25T 48 PITCH

Note ; All pinions are 48 pitch and they are made by robinson.

[speedy gonnalo]

uhuh

[TSR6]

Originally posted by speedy gonnalo
Hey guys. What do you think about using one of the following pinion gears on my evader which the motor is the motor off of the rtr xxx-s?

15T 48 PITCH
16T 48 PITCH
17T 48 PITCH
18T 48 PITCH
19T 48 PITCH
20T 48 PITCH
THROUGH 25T 48 PITCH

Note ; All pinions are 48 pitch and they are made by robinson.

NOTE - This is the XXX-S forum NOT the Evader forum. Go talk about your evader gearing somewhere else...

[lowbugit]

Thanks TSR6 for the explaination on the One Way. I get it now it is working properly. Thankyou. Kevin.

[TSR6]

Originally posted by lowbugit
Thanks TSR6 for the explaination on the One Way. I get it now it is working properly. Thankyou. Kevin.

The one-way also has white arrows on them. They show which way the one-way should spin to go forward ;)

[thedominator]

Originally posted by Dj Kumara
thedominator I had the same problem. Been looking for replacements for a couple of months with no success. If you pay for the Losi replacements, you have to buy the whole 'B' bag-including the belt tunnel cover which you probably won't ever need.

ae might make some that size?? i'm going to try and prethread the holes with the cap headed screws out of my xxx-nt battery box.:p

[TSR6]

Originally posted by thedominator
ae might make some that size?? i'm going to try and prethread the holes with the cap headed screws out of my xxx-nt battery box.:p

If you use a quality hex wrench, you should not need to even pre-thread it.

I built my xxx-s gp+ without pre-threading. I went through the whole pre-threading jazz with my original xxx-s, and was even foolish enough to use the L wrenches. :rolleyes:

-Troy

[speedy gonnalo]

Hey guys. I finally finished a race.:D

[talon51]

I see we have a new thread...time to resubscribe myself...

Do any of you guys know where I can find a spring rate chart for this car? I've searched all over the place, and I can't seem to find one...maybe I'm not looking in the right places...

Anybody here race at Marshall's RC in northeast PA? I'll be there this weekend for some TC action.

Thanks,
Talon

[Dj Kumara]

If you use a quality hex wrench, you should not need to even pre-thread it.

Maybe that's another thing we need to repeat every few pages or so - along with the gear ratio calculator (spur / pinion * internal gear ratio). I attempted to build the kit with the included L wrenches, which is why I had problems.

[spenzalii]

LOL Maybe someone should post that info on the top of each new page. It would save some time in the long run.

A good set of drivers should be the first thing everyone should get. You'll be glad you did. The only one I don't have is for the motor mount screw. The Dynamite set I bought didn't have that size (and I can't remember what size that is to begin with)

Speedy, congrats on the race. Finally a bit of good news from you;)

[TSR6]

Originally posted by spenzalii
LOL Maybe someone should post that info on the top of each new page. It would save some time in the long run.

A good set of drivers should be the first thing everyone should get. You'll be glad you did. The only one I don't have is for the motor mount screw. The Dynamite set I bought didn't have that size (and I can't remember what size that is to begin with)

Speedy, congrats on the race. Finally a bit of good news from you;)

They are a 2mm screw. Very funky... I don't know what losi was thinking. Someone was drunk when they included those.

I just replaced them with some spare screws I had laying around.

Agreed. We just need to repeat that once every couple of days.:rolleyes:

[spenzalii]

2mm? In that case, I think I can use my Dynamite set I bought for my LD3. I know they're metric, but can't remember if they have 2mm.

[TSR6]

Originally posted by spenzalii
2mm? In that case, I think I can use my Dynamite set I bought for my LD3. I know they're metric, but can't remember if they have 2mm.

Yeah, I ended up using them on my Mugen. :p I lost a screw, and used the Losi screw to replace it.

[LouisB]

I think that the 2mm screws are actually 5/64", AE use them on some kits. But I use a 2mm driver anyway.

Is this motor mount screw only on the G+? I haven't come across a 5/64" on mine yet (it's a converted standard version)

[spenzalii]

Yep. Those were the screws I had on mine, and I have the standard kit. I'll prpbably get the G+ soon and make the standard into a show car: get the blue aluminum pieces, slap my Jaguar body on it and slide a Novak brushless under the hood, just in case I do decide to run it

[speedy gonnalo]

umhum.

*mutters and goes off to play with new rims*

[TSR6]

Originally posted by LouisB
I think that the 2mm screws are actually 5/64", AE use them on some kits. But I use a 2mm driver anyway.

Is this motor mount screw only on the G+? I haven't come across a 5/64" on mine yet (it's a converted standard version)

possibly... I just know my 2mm works on them... and they are the fine thread... so i used em on my mugen :p

They are the gold screws... probably GP+ only.. I dont think i had any with my Std.

they were for the motor / motor mount.

[LouisB]

oh right, mine just came with standard cap heads.

[spenzalii]

Nope, got the gold screws on my standard kit right now... go fig.

BTW, has anyone else tried the new 3400 cells they have out? I bought a few just to try out and am quite impressed.

[TSR6]

Originally posted by spenzalii
Nope, got the gold screws on my standard kit right now... go fig.

BTW, has anyone else tried the new 3400 cells they have out? I bought a few just to try out and am quite impressed.

Haven't even heard of them..

Who's cells are they? GP?

Have any info on them?

I've been running nitro. Shows how far out of the loop you get when you don't touch your electric stuff for a month. ;)

[TSR6]

Just for my sanity.. It's been a while since this has been posted

(SPUR / PINION) x 1.83

BUY GOOD WRENCHES - 1/16", 3/32" and .05"

have a nice day

[speedy gonnalo]

Hey guys. I 'm back alive and well. What is a good pinion gear to use on a monster horsepower motor[pro]:confused: . I have like the worlds greatest news. I am designing and building rc cars! Give me some ideas of what I can put on them, 4WD OR 2WD, SHAFT DRIVE OR BELT DRIVE, WHAT IT SHOULD LOOK LIKE.:)

[speedy gonnalo]

Hey guys. I 'm back alive and well. What is a good pinion gear to use on a monster horsepower motor[pro]:confused: . I have like the worlds greatest news. I am designing and building rc cars! Give me some ideas of what I can put on them, 4WD OR 2WD, SHAFT DRIVE OR BELT DRIVE, WHAT IT SHOULD LOOK LIKE.:)

[jkerr0043]

Troy, It dosent look like it does any good. The very next post was what you're trying to avoid:mad:

[TSR6]

speedy -

1. - depends on your track size. If i remember right, I was geared at 7.80 for S&N trackside ( going off memory ).

2. What are you using to design it? Etch-A-Sketch? Who are you designing for? Tyco?

3. If his comment is true, I am going to shoot myself.

jkerr - Yeah.. I've lost all hope. :rolleyes:

[jkerr0043]

Anyone else had trouble with the G+ being VERY heavy box stock. When I was at the Reedy race, most of my buddy's were running Yok's,Xrays, and TC3's and they were all .2 oz over or so and that's after adding a bunch of weight. (some added more than 1.5 oz) I took it to the scales w/o any added weight, 2.8 oz. over. :eek: And that's w/ a GT7 ESC, and XXL receiver and 3000 batts. This things a heffer. I would mill out the center like Kinwald does but I run on parking lots a lot so I need the seald drive train. Anyone else have any tricks?

[TSR6]

Mine was over, a guy I race with actually had to add weight though.

I'm still trying to figure out how, and he still claims it was stock. :confused:

I think the easiest way to loose weight would be to switch to Ti & AL screws.

[TSR6]

Also.. You don't have to mill all the way through the chassis.

This is something I played with on a spare chassis I had. I milled away about half of the chassis, following kinwald's design. The only difference was that I didn't cut all the way through.

Something to think about...

-Troy

[TSR6]

oh.. and we started a new page too.. :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

(Spur / Pinion ) * 1.83
GEARING DEPENDS ON MOTOR AND TRACK - ASK LOCALS!
L-WRENCHES ARE CRAP! BUY GOOD WRENCHES - 1/16", 3/32" and .05"

-Troy

[spenzalii]

ROFL TRS6! Oh well, at least we just have to say ttt from now on...

I've got to go to the shop and get some more ball ends. I called myself being smart and switching to some GS captured ball ends on the steering. The only problem is, while the steering is much smoother, there is so much more slop in the steering it's ridiculous! No matter how carefully I build them, not only does it take a click or two of servo travel before the wheels actually see any movement, but the tracking is horrible. Depending on how the car is running, it will drift to the left or right; poor centering is an understatement

[LouisB]

I'm using Schumacher ball cups on the steering links on my XXX-S at the moment. They are very strong and have minimal slop. I've never had a problem with RPMs though.

If anyone is interested, I got pole and won my first ever touring car race last weekend. I've come 2nd twice in about 2 years racing but I've never won or even got pole before.

The perfect way to start a new championship:D It was on a medium bite parking lot, if anyone want's the set-up just ask, it was dialed like never before.

[spenzalii]

Huzzah Louie! Hood going. Go on and post the setup, maybe I could use it...

[LouisB]

sure, I'll go and find my car and have a look at it;)

I might even do a proper sheet.

[spenzalii]

Great. Foams or rubber?

Speaking of tires, here's a bit of a problem I've been having with the bloody wheel nuts. I lost the original nuts a while back. So I went to the hardware store and picked up some 11/32 nuts. Those fit and I could screw them on with my wheel nut wrench, but they were a bit tall (the plactic locknut would barely touch the thread), so they would spin off. I recently swapped to a pair of Nitro Shoes that were too soft for my LD3 and decided to go to the hobby shop and get some low profile nuts (even picked up a set of blue Trinity deals) Now, my wrench won't grab the nuts and screw them on ! It's like the nuts are too wide for even a thin wall socket to fit over them and between the space in the rim. WHat gives? I thought it was just the Nitro Shoe rims, but I tried the nuts with a different set of rims, with the same problem

[LouisB]

rubber,

I use the same wheel nuts, I've never had a problem with them, but I run rubber. Weird

[TSR6]

stock nuts - no problems.. :D

spenzalii - at least you find humor in this.. hehe... unfortunately, I think im serious... I think we do need to post that every page. :rolleyes:

[spenzalii]

Works for me. Whoever sees we have a new page should go on and slap it up there, and we frag anybody who asks that question immediately...

I'll see if I can get a new set of nuts then. Strangely enough, I went to another hobby shop and got a set of 11/32 Losi nuts. Low profile, and had the same problem threading them on. Screwy, ain't it? I hate having to use pliers; that's so hack. Plus, the was the nuts are designed, it's very hard to get a grip on them (they're almost dome shaped at the top)

BTW, which rubber? Sorex? Take-Off? Pro-line? RdLogics? (Ok that lat one is a joke, but they make for a good practice set)

[TSR6]

Originally posted by spenzalii
Works for me. Whoever sees we have a new page should go on and slap it up there, and we frag anybody who asks that question immediately...

agreed

I'll see if I can get a new set of nuts then. Strangely enough, I went to another hobby shop and got a set of 11/32 Losi nuts. Low profile, and had the same problem threading them on. Screwy, ain't it? I hate having to use pliers; that's so hack. Plus, the was the nuts are designed, it's very hard to get a grip on them (they're almost dome shaped at the top)

Hmm, Trinity has a thin-walled wheel drivier if i remember right. I just use Crapsman personally.


BTW, which rubber? Sorex? Take-Off? Pro-line? RdLogics? (Ok that lat one is a joke, but they make for a good practice set) [/b]

Trojan... :p

I use take-off's. Too damn cheap, and pre-mounted. I just can't justify Sorex anymore.

[spenzalii]

hmm. Craftsman has thin walled nut drivers? I refeuse to pay $20+ for a dinki Kinwald stubby turner from the shop. Just doesn't add up.

The Take-Offs.. Get them from SpeedTech? I was considering getting some control tires (H13 compound ProLine slicks) for wear and grip. Anybody tried them yet?

[LouisB]

I run Take Offs most of the time, sometimes Sorex, ING or Pit Shimizu. The set-up is for CS27s (and it works well with Pit 27Rs too), we rarely run anything harder over here, it's just too damn cold!

Got to check on a couple of points on the set-up, it'll be up in a minute.

[TSR6]

Speedtech has them, not sure on price. I usually get mine from KTHobbies.com ( I get all my mugen stuff from speedtech, Losi from kthobbies. ;) ) The take-off's run for about $25-28.. half the cost of wheels, inserts, and rubber.

Im not sure if they are thin-walled.. but the one i have works, so I use it. :D

I've never had luck with the Pro-Line tires. Either not enough traction, or they burn up.. although I've never used the H-13's, just S2's and S3's.

[LouisB]

H13s were th control tire for the UK national championship a couple of years ago, everyone hated them. Cheap, but not consistent grip. Now everyone runs Take Off, Sorex etc

here's the set-up (http://www.grccc.supanet.com/gallery/xxxssetup.jpg)
You may need to add a front sway bar if the track is more open, I ran this on the tightest track you have ever seen and it just couldn't get round some of the corners properly with a swaybar.

[spenzalii]

I know the S2's stick like motobike tires, but have the life expectancy of a snail under a hit lamp. I only use them for looks (the Fury treads look a lot like full size yok' tires, and with the HotWorks rims and S-Type body, it's a nice fit). I've heard of the H13, but never tried them I may try a set from KT hobbies or Speedtech, the price for a full set sounds pretty good

[speedy gonnalo]

Originally posted by TSR6
speedy -

1. - depends on your track size. If i remember right, I was geared at 7.80 for S&N trackside ( going off memory ).

2. What are you using to design it? Etch-A-Sketch? Who are you designing for? Tyco?

3. If his comment is true, I am going to shoot myself.

jkerr - Yeah.. I've lost all hope.:D
__________________________________________________ __
Yes, my comment is true so you can go ahead and shoot yourself,no faith.
I am designing for my own company,butthead:p .

[TSR6]

Originally posted by speedy gonnalo
Yes, my comment is true so you can go ahead and shoot yourself,no faith.
I am designing for my own company,butthead:p .

Which company might this be?

If you aren't old enough to have a credit card, then how do you have a company?

Just my curiousity..

Also, I feel that a business man such as yourself should show more professionals twards your (future) customers. Calling someone a ''butthead'' wouldn't be best for business. :rolleyes:

[spenzalii]

ROTHFMAO!:p :p :p You guys shouldn't do this to me while I'm at work. I'll never get anything done and my boss will wonder what's wrong with me.

[speedy gonnalo]

yep

[speedy gonnalo]

ok then

[speedy gonnalo]

Originally posted by TSR6
Which company might this be?

If you aren't old enough to have a credit card, then how do you have a company?

Just my curiousity..

Also, I feel that a business man such as yourself should show more professionals twards your (future) customers. Calling someone a ''butthead'' wouldn't be best for business. :rolleyes:

Look,tsr6 it is a private company but when i am old enough i am gonna go local,ok? The name of it is Romano Industries,geT IT?

[LouisB]

What progam are you using to design the cars then?

[TSR6]

Originally posted by speedy gonnalo
Look,tsr6 it is a private company but when i am old enough i am gonna go local,ok? The name of it is Romano Industries,geT IT?

Congrats, now how about giving us some more info.. Very curious minds here..

What does Romano currently make? What equipment do they have? Etch-A-Sketch usually doesn't make parts easily.:rolleyes:

[TSR6]

oh.. and we started a new page too..

(Spur / Pinion ) * 1.83
GEARING DEPENDS ON MOTOR AND TRACK - ASK LOCALS!
L-WRENCHES ARE CRAP! BUY GOOD WRENCHES - 1/16", 3/32" and .05"

-Troy

[LouisB]

Originally posted by TSR6
oh.. and we started a new page too..

(Spur / Pinion ) * 1.83
GEARING DEPENDS ON MOTOR AND TRACK - ASK LOCALS!
L-WRENCHES ARE CRAP! BUY GOOD WRENCHES - 1/16", 3/32" and .05"

-Troy

LOL, what are you gonna do to the newb who asks what gearing to use???:eek: I think it would be messy!

Yeah speedy, let's have a look at what "Romano Industries" have made so far!

[spenzalii]

Just what I needed, a daily dose of humor:cool:

I'm going to swap out those ball ends this weekend, I hope. I got a new body to paint up, too (Nissan Altima). I'm trying to decide weather to fade the pearl white and purple or have a sharply defined edge for both colors. I really need to replace my stratusfear body, which along with the car got ran over (the car was rebuilt, the body soldiered on)

So speedy, just what can we expect from your company? and when?

[TSR6]

Originally posted by LouisB
LOL, what are you gonna do to the newb who asks what gearing to use???:eek: I think it would be messy!

Yeah speedy, let's have a look at what "Romano Industries" have made so far!

I hope we don't find out.

Spenz - Yeah... time to replace it man ;) Fades always look nice. If you want to do a defined edge, but another color's pin-stripe in the middle. :D

[LouisB]

I hope so too.


White and purple look great together, I would go for a simple design down the side separating the 2 colours, like a swoosh.

I'm going to do a combination of these two when I get an Alfa 2.0, but with some chrome.

http://www.grccc.supanet.com/gallery/ftb33.jpg
http://www.grccc.supanet.com/gallery/newstratus2.jpg

[spenzalii]

Nice Stratus Louis. I tried to see if I had a pic of the stratusfear around here, buy I don't. With the pearl colors, is it best to back them with something like white or silver? Now that I don't have the mask or stickers I really wanted, I'm trying to figure the best way to paint it.

[LouisB]

I've found pearl white looks good when backed with white, but silver should work great too. If you want to make the body a bit more interesting then fading from black to purple, or from one purple to another looks good.

[TSR6]

Depends on the look you want to give.

Pearl white I would back with either white, or silver. If you decide to back it with silver, You might want to make sure the pearl white is a little thicker, because it will get a slight silver tint if it's too thin.

Other pearl colors are fun to play with. You can change the tone of the color jsut by what you back it with. Take a pearl red for example. You can make it a deep red by backing it with black, or another dark color, or you can make ir bright and vibrant by backing with white, silver, and sometimes even gold if that floats your boat :)

[speedy gonnalo]

Guys just shut up about my company. I havent built anything yet but when i get enough money i am just going to buy a touring car chassis and build with misc. parts of different cars. Now , since you *****ing keep asking what is being made.... well, you get the idea.

[speedy gonnalo]

Originally posted by TSR6
Congrats, now how about giving us some more info.. Very curious minds here..

What does Romano currently make? What equipment do they have? Etch-A-Sketch usually doesn't make parts easily.:rolleyes:


I HAVE NOT DESIGNED EQUIPMENT AND WILL NOT. I AM ONLY DESIGNING CARS. OK?:p

[LouisB]

I think what Troy was trying to say was, what equipment do you have that will allow you to design and build this car?

So, what are you using to design the car? Etch-A-Sketch?

[speedy gonnalo]

Originally posted by LouisB
I think what Troy was trying to say was, what equipment do you have that will allow you to design and build this car?

So, what are you using to design the car? Etch-A-Sketch?

Um,lemme think for a minute here...... I think it is called paper and pencil. I have allen wrenches,screw drivers, all kind of stuff.

[LouisB]

..right.....

I s'pose if you're only going to be making a hybrid then CAD programs wouldn't be as important.

More of a project than a company.

[speedy gonnalo]

Originally posted by LouisB
..right.....

I s'pose if you're only going to be making a hybrid then CAD programs wouldn't be as important.

More of a project than a company.

OK, so a hybrid rc project.:cool:

[spenzalii]

I grabbed an old body I had for a testor. I think I will go with the fade; without the backing it really looks like it will work. I'm going to see if either white or silver will be the best backing before I get the car ready.

One question: I took the mask out and realized it didn't have transfer tape inside! I can't make it up to the shop just yet; what else can I use?

And speedy, don't take it personal buddy. You kind of had it coming, so just roll with the punches and stick with your dream

[TSR6]

i dont suggest it... but in a pinch, ive used masking tape before.. hehe.. i actually purposly fingered the tape to remove some adhesion.

speedy - you had it coming man.. when a young kid says ''im starting a company to design rc cars'' i tend to fall off my chair.. in laughter..

It takes quite a bit of equipment, injection mold machines, cnc machines, lathes, CAD programs, the works. Its not something you decide to create overnight.:p

[speedy gonnalo]

I didn't come up with that overnight and like spenz said just stick to my dreams and take the punches from people likeyou,TSR6! You don't need many machines and i waz just going to buy parts from other cars,not make them.


see ya peanutbrain
Ryan

[TSR6]

Originally posted by speedy gonnalo
I didn't come up with that overnight and like spenz said just stick to my dreams and take the punches from people likeyou,TSR6! You don't need many machines and i waz just going to buy parts from other cars,not make them.


see ya peanutbrain
Ryan

speedy - Your a funny kid, and I wish you well with your "business venture." If you can call it that..

[LouisB]

Originally posted by TSR6
Your a funny kid

Yes, a very "funny" kid http://mywebpages.comcast.net/00gmc/images/fsc/smilies/cookoo.gif

[spenzalii]

Humor, the drug of the jackels....

I went out and got the masking paper. They didn't have transfer tame so they suggested something else. It's like a full sheet of transfer paper but I forgot what it's called. it worked wonders. I was able to cut the shape I needed for the design on the masking sheet with no problem. I also picked up some regular Dubro 8/32 nuts. No fancy aluminum low profile pink ano'd stuff. They should do the trick. Now if I had remembered to get the ball cups I'd be straight

[speedy gonnalo]

ok.

[speedy gonnalo]

Oh,so now I'm a funny kid. What about you all, arent you going cookoo?http://mywebpages.comcast.net/00gmc/images/fsc/smilies/cookoo.gif

[speedy gonnalo]

Please forgive my last post. That guy had his middle finger up instead of his index finger and he was pointing it at louis.

[LouisB]

Originally posted by spenzalii
I went out and got the masking paper. They didn't have transfer tame so they suggested something else. It's like a full sheet of transfer paper but I forgot what it's called. it worked wonders. I was able to cut the shape I needed for the design on the masking sheet with no problem. I also picked up some regular Dubro 8/32 nuts. No fancy aluminum low profile pink ano'd stuff. They should do the trick. Now if I had remembered to get the ball cups I'd be straight

Good to hear it.
That reminded me to check my car, it had more play in the steering than I would like (haven't changed the cups in ages), but I had some new RPMs lying around so now it's almost completely slop-free.


Very nice speedy, so, how's your project coming along?

[speedy gonnalo]

oh well

[LouisB]

Originally posted by speedy gonnalo
oh well

yes

[spenzalii]

Will the RPM cups fit on the stock ball ends? I'd hate to have t get new ball ends and knuckles to boot

[LouisB]

RPMs fit perfectly

[speedy gonnalo]

actin up agin

[TSR6]

I've used Losi cups, AE truck cups, and RPM.

RPM's stay tight, longer.

[speedy gonnalo]

Hey guys. tower noww sells losi parts. they sell associated made xxx-s titanium turnbuckles. Go to advanced search and in product categories go to car and truck chassis parts and in description, type in blue. it will be probaly be the third or fourth page or something.

[speedy gonnalo]

yep

[TSR6]

Originally posted by speedy gonnalo
Hey guys. tower noww sells losi parts. they sell associated made xxx-s titanium turnbuckles. Go to advanced search and in product categories go to car and truck chassis parts and in description, type in blue. it will be probaly be the third or fourth page or something.

Even easier, If you do a search for "xxx-s", you come up with a grand total of two items. A Trinity bearing set, and the AE turnbuckle set.

Tower carries most AE & Trinity products, but they do NOT carry losi products.

[LouisB]

Originally posted by TSR6
Tower carries most AE & Trinity products, but they do NOT carry losi products.
that's http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid38/p5ef3a9d992b0873c047ef7c6410443c6/fd130080.gif

[TSR6]

Originally posted by LouisB
that's http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid38/p5ef3a9d992b0873c047ef7c6410443c6/fd130080.gif

Does McDonalds sell Burger King Whoppers? Nope. IS that wierd? Nope..

Tower Hobbies is a subsidiary, or another division of Great Planes Model Distributors. Horizon Hobby is thier #1 competitor, who has stock in Losi. I'm not sure what the extent is, but Horizon is the exclusive distributor for Losi. If Tower Hobbies ( Great Planes ) wanted to carry Losi parts, they would have to buy from thier #1 competitor, Horizon Hobby Distribution.

This is the exact same reason that Horizon Hobby does not carry genuine Kyosho parts. Great Planes is the exlcusive US distributor for Kyosho.

Next time you want to order Losi from Tower, I first suggest you take a trip to McDonalds, and ask for a whopper. When they tell you that BK has the whopper, not McDonalds, and them if they can still get one for you. :rolleyes:

[LouisB]

You've got the wrong end of the stick, the little smilie says "WERD", so I was actually saying "damn straight", I understand perfectly the whole Tower/Losi issue :) That's business

[spenzalii]

Simple Economics, I'm afraid. Good example TRS6, even if it was a bit sarcastic (which I love, btw).

Sorry Speedy, you still have to get the parts from somebody else. Unless of course, thise are the only parts you need.

[TSR6]

Louis - I figured you probably knew. I shouldnt have quoted you I 'spose. ;)

Spenz - no problem. I just like to remind everyone that...

TOWER DOESNT CARRY LOSI
SPUR / PINION ) * 1.83
BUY A HEX WRENCH SET!

it hasnt been posted on this page. :rolleyes:

[LouisB]

ROFLMAO:D Pearls of wisdom every page;)

[spenzalii]

You forgot

Short Shafts on Front ONLY! You get those often enough...

[LouisB]

yep, good idea



This could end up as a very long list.


On some parking lot tracks around here I've been having a rear end grip problem. Whatever I change on the set-up makes no improvement, so, I bought the 1* rear hubs. I don't see many people using these so I was looking for feedback on whether they actually make a difference to top speed and any other opinions on them. This will only be for some tracks, where i can't get the car to stick round corners no matter what I change.

[TSR6]

Originally posted by LouisB
yep, good idea



This could end up as a very long list.


On some parking lot tracks around here I've been having a rear end grip problem. Whatever I change on the set-up makes no improvement, so, I bought the 1* rear hubs. I don't see many people using these so I was looking for feedback on whether they actually make a difference to top speed and any other opinions on them. This will only be for some tracks, where i can't get the car to stick round corners no matter what I change.

I don't think you'll really see a difference in top speed. I never did. Even if it did make a big difference, If you are slower in the corners, what does straight-line speed matter anyways?

Another thing to add to the list, when running Trinity, Speedtech, or Custom LRC blocks, dont use both the short shafts and bodies. :D

[jkerr0043]

OK guys, I've got one for ya. Anyone ever run foams on parking lots? I've been tossing the idea around to try a set of TRC foams but I'm not sure what compound to get. (We always run Take off or Sorex out here on P-Lots) I've never run foams beofre and I'm curious. I'm not even sure what the scale is soft compound to firm. (pink, plaid, Green with polkadots :D Let me know what you guys think. I want to do some testing. I just need a starting point.

[spenzalii]

I'm running Nitroshoes 45/40 f/r setup. Don't use the 30mm unless you have some offset; they will rub the bottom of the shock. 40/35 or 40/37 will grip a bit better, but they won't last very long

[Slow Driver]

I and three of my sons race XXX-S's here in England. I bought a few shells off of Ebay for the boys and everything was great..... that is until I realized that they did not have the window masks and the decals. The window masks were easy to make but do you guys have any idea where you can get sticker sets that include the headlights and such. I am specifically looking for stickers for the Losi Stratus body.

Thanks and I do so enjoy the continuing saga of Romero Industries. At least speedy is not begging anymore.

[TSR6]

I'm going to take a bet that purple, maybe double purple would be a choice for foam. I know thats what a couple guys out here ran..

Slow - You can buy XXX-S decal sheets from Losi. I don't know the P/N, but it DID have the Losi Stratus head & taillights on it. It's the exact sheet that comes with the original x-s stiffezel kit.

Otherwise, be creative and just paint them! I can post a little tutorial if you wish.

[LouisB]

Originally posted by TSR6
Otherwise, be creative and just paint them! I can post a little tutorial if you wish.

I for one would like a look at a headlight tutorial. I haven't airbrushed a TC body yet but unique lights are on the list of things to try out.

[smoky]

hey whats up guys, ive just begun building my xxxs, i just have one question so far. ive built the drivetrain so far and was just wondering when its all together how freely should the spur gear spin,like should you be able to spin it with your finger and it keep spinning on its own or should there be some kind of drag? This is the first belt drive and electric car ive built so sorry if its a stupid ?. Any help and other pointers that may help me along the way would be graetly appreiciated thanks.

[LouisB]

If you spin the spur gear it should be free but will only spin for a second or less. The single belt systen actually has very little friction but it doesn't spin as long as shaft drive cars due to how the energy is transferred and the weight of the drive train components. On a shaft car the diffs and shaft rotate, acting like flywheels.

[spenzalii]

Sounds about right. it won't spin nearly as much when the wheels, tires and motor are on. It just goes to show how well the drivetrain was designed to reduce friction. It should be fine. Just check the tension on the belt afterthe motor is installed

[spenzalii]

Oh yeah, I'll do the honors...

TOWER DOESNT CARRY LOSI
(SPUR / PINION ) * 1.83=FDR Gear to track
BUY A HEX WRENCH SET!
SHORT SHAFT UP FRONT ONLY!

[speedy gonnalo]

and again,yes they do.

[spenzalii]

OK, for the nitpicky people,

TOWER DOESN'T SELL ANY PARTS MADE BY LOSI

Does that make you feel better about the 2 pieces Tower has, speedy?

[LouisB]

Originally posted by speedy gonnalo
and again,yes they do.

Did you listen to anything Troy said?

[spenzalii]

If all you need are turnbuckles and a $150+ set of bearings, Tower has you covered :rolleyes:. if you break ANYTHING else, or need so much as a Losi ball cup, you're coming up short. Comprende?

[TSR6]

Originally posted by speedy gonnalo
and again,yes they do.


Speedy - Before you post again in this thread, Please pull your head out of your ass. :rolleyes:

Louis - I'll do something here in the next couple days..

[TSR6]

http://www.geocities.com/sordidken/head-up-ass.jpg

[spenzalii]

Oh So Funny!

I spent the last 2 days trying to install a CV-RX in my LD3. What fun. In teh meantime, I let my buddy shoot my Altima body (under my direct supervision) There are a few flaws, but overall it's going to be sick. I'll post pics sometime next week

[TSR6]

Originally posted by spenzalii
Oh So Funny!


I do what I can. :p

Please do post pics ;)

[LouisB]

Yeah, can't wait

[puma1824]

I'm thinking about getting into electric. I currently run Nitro was contemplating going to electric also because the track I run on starts with the electric guys while the Nitro guys sit around for a LONG time.

Anyways, I was considering purchasing a XXX-s G+ or a TC3. I don't know anything about electric to please give me a clue.

The track I mainly race on is an onroad parking lot track with low to med traction.

Do you thing a used XXX-s G+ w/new 19t motor, heatsink, shock collars, servo and new sway bars is worth $299?

Thanks,
Puma

[spenzalii]

Sounds like a good deal to me.

OK, got the body finished. Now all I have to do is shoot some pictures b4 I crash it into something. I really hate making a good looking body only to have it torn up by the riggors of daily driving. The fade came out better than I expected.

[LouisB]

Originally posted by spenzalii
Sounds like a good deal to me.

OK, got the body finished. Now all I have to do is shoot some pictures b4 I crash it into something. I really hate making a good looking body only to have it torn up by the riggors of daily driving. The fade came out better than I expected.

Sounds good :)

I'm waiting for the Pform Alfa 2.0 to arrive in the UK to see how it handles (should be perfect for the tracks over here) but my Stratus 2.0 is still in almost perfect condition. I don't know what's up with my driving but I TQ'd and won the A-main yesterday, 2 out of 2 wins for the championship! I have to start crashing so I can justify a new body;)

I also tried out my new Peak Carrera 10x2, very nice even though it got quite warm. I'm temped by the Kr or a D5 but I've got a big stock of stand up brushes and I'd like to keep on using them. I also got a pack of PMR 33s, a massive improvement over my old 3000s, loads of punch.

[smoky]

hey guys, i must say im just about done building my xxxs. it was a very good building exp. everyting went together very smoothly. ive had only one problem though. when i thread the little set screw into the arms to hold the hinge pin in place it threads in but wont go far enough to hold the hinge pin in place. ive tried pushing it as hard as i could but stil no results i think ill just throw some e-clips on it. one question im trying to decide on a motor i think im going to go with a reedy Ti either 10x2 or 12x2. my question is. is there really that much difference in speed of them and would the 12 give me a noticeable increase in run time? im runnin trinity sanyo 3000's and reedy 3300 X cells. thanks and sorry bout the long post

[LouisB]

Check that there is a clear path for the set-screw. I found with some of the blocks on my car that there was extra moulding and the screw couldn't quite fit through. Take the hinge-pin out and thread the screw all the way in, back it out, then put the pin in again. If the screw doesn't gain enough purchase on the pin then you can grind a flat on it.

With 3000s and 3300s a 10 turn motor should last just fine, but if this is your first go at TCs then it might be better with a 12 to start out with. There isn't a huge difference in current draw between a 10 and a 12 turn motor but the 12 will accelerate more smoothly and be easier to drive, the actual max rpm will be similar with both motors.

[speedy gonnalo]

MY 2 cents about aluminum parts are

1. they are too expensive.
2. they are still too expensive.

The reason i say that is a heatsink motor mount for anything at all is like $20.

[TSR6]

Originally posted by speedy gonnalo
MY 2 cents about aluminum parts are

1. they are too expensive.
2. they are still too expensive.

The reason i say that is a heatsink motor mount for anything at all is like $20.

They may be expensive, but the big deal about aluminum and racing, is that sometimes aluminum bends, or ''tweaks'' every so slightly that you may not know it's bent. Yes, a standard part would probably break in a hit that bends aluminum, but i'd rather break and mis out on one heat, or one main, than be fighting a tweaked car, or suspension for weeks afterwards.

[spenzalii]

True, but depending on what it is, I'd get it. The heatsink, for instance. While $20, I'd get one to keep the motor cool. I'd probably spring for the knockles, too. Arms, maybe not

[speedy gonnalo]

JUST CURIOUS.. whats tha deeaaalliioooo!!!!!???? I am going to race tonight!

[speedy gonnalo]

Originally posted by spenzalii
True, but depending on what it is, I'd get it. The heatsink, for instance. While $20, I'd get one to keep the motor cool. I'd probably spring for the knuckles, too. Arms, maybe not

I mean those arms break all the time and then you have to take all the **** off of it to take the hub off, the shocks,the hinge pin has to come out and everything.

[TSR6]

Originally posted by speedy gonnalo
I mean those arms break all the time and then you have to take all the **** off of it to take the hub off, the shocks,the hinge pin has to come out and everything.

Don't hit things, and things don't break.

Not hitting things makes less work for you.

[speedy gonnalo]

I finally finished a race without breaking a part. I also got a 3300 battery from GP for $20.

[speedy gonnalo]

yep.

[TSR6]

Originally posted by speedy gonnalo
yep.

and the point of this post was? http://domania.us/jzweizig/wall.gif

[speedy gonnalo]

My computer is acting up.

[TSR6]

Originally posted by speedy gonnalo
My computer is acting up.

My computer acts up too..

It's just never opened Caraction.com, opened the forums, gone to this thread, clicked reply, then typed "yep.", and clicked submit for no particular reason. Thats wierd, sounds like you need to F-disk it. :rolleyes:

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid38/p5ef3a9d992b0873c047ef7c6410443c6/fd130080.gif

[TSR6]

new page.. I'll do the honors..

TOWER DOESNT CARRY LOSI
SPUR / PINION ) * 1.83
BUY A HEX WRENCH SET!

[xxxkat]

$299 Is NOT a good deal for a used G plus,I dont care how much alum. it has on it..I know of at least 2 G plus losi's for $225 and they both have ti screw kits,ti ball studs and ti hinge pins plus all of the alum stuff..no alum. hubs or A arms they bend,i'm thinking one of them the guy droped the price to $ 190,but i'm not sure.As far as the G plus vrs. the tc-3 they are both good cars,both can win but if you get the tc-3 stock up on parts.. :D

[jkerr0043]

One thing I noticed is that to run a shaft drive, you really have to adjust your driving style. I started with a TC3 and thought it met my driving style. That was until I built my Losi. I was faster right away. The next week the TC3 was on Ebay. The TC3 is a great car but you have to have that type of driving style. You really have to be smooth with one, especially when running mod because of the free drive train and the almost too quick throttle response.

[speedy gonnalo]

Originally posted by TSR6
My computer acts up too..

It's just never opened Caraction.com, opened the forums, gone to this thread, clicked reply, then typed "yep.", and clicked submit for no particular reason. Thats wierd, sounds like you need to F-disk it. :rolleyes:

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid38/p5ef3a9d992b0873c047ef7c6410443c6/fd130080.gif

Well, it's a thing where i have to post first to see what else you have posted.

[speedy gonnalo]

Hey guys. I might be getting a B3 in 3 months. Oh, here's another one. I go to my hobby shop on wednesday. The guy at the counter says''look,we need to have a talk. Your batteries are not holding up for a whole race and then when your batteries die, they hold up the race and the guys in the pit are complaining''. So we go back in the pit area and ask all the guys if they are complaining and all of them said the same thing. No. Now, i'm not going to race there any more.

[speedy gonnalo]

Originally posted by TSR6
new page.. I'll do the honors..

TOWER DOESNT CARRY LOSI
SPUR / PINION ) * 1.83
BUY A HEX WRENCH SET!
Quit wasting space on this page for that kind of thing.

[TSR6]

Originally posted by speedy gonnalo
Quit wasting space on this page for that kind of thing.

Like you have the right to tell me to ''quit wasting space''

You just made three posts that could have been condensed into one, and you tell me this. Ha!

It's there to remind people like you that ASK the same thing 20 times, and yes, you did. If it's on every page, then lazyasses like you will see it.

[LouisB]

Get a grip speedy, you're embarrassing yourself

[spenzalii]

Man, I will never go out of town on the 4th of July again!

I have to do a teardown of my drivetrain later on. for some reason, my belt has jumped off the rear diff twice for no apparent reason. The tension was set normally. I gave it some gas, it took off, slid to the side and did nothing. That and my front CVD's have developed an odd squeek when I turn them. Very odd. And it's not like I have a crazy wind on the car wither (P94 12x2 on 7 cells). Plus, I have to resolder my pack. My first time building cells hasn't been very good it seems. Add to that I tore up second gear on my LD3 and my LHS will love seing me this week...

Speedy,speedy, speedy. You really do seem to like running your head into the wall :banghead: As far as the battery thing, try cycling them

[TSR6]

Better question would be what type of batteries are these?

If they are old NiCad's, best option would be to get new cells. If they are older NiMH, same thing goes, even more so if they are 3000-H cells. My 3000H packs just suddenly went downhill with little warning.

GP cells are really the best cells I've ever used.. durable, high voltage, and long run time :)

[LouisB]

I know what you mean with the 3000Hs, I have one pack and it's been great for nearly a year but now it's got no punch at all. Now i compare it to my PMR 33s it's pathetic but has still lasted longer than I expected for a 3000H. Stormer only had one pack of PMR 33s in stock so I'm currently waiting for 3 packs of SMC 33s :D

[speedy gonnalo]

Originally posted by TSR6
Better question would be what type of batteries are these?

If they are old NiCad's, best option would be to get new cells. If they are older NiMH, same thing goes, even more so if they are 3000-H cells. My 3000H packs just suddenly went downhill with little warning.

GP cells are really the best cells I've ever used.. durable, high voltage, and long run time :)

They are duratrax 1500 pirahna hump batteries converted to side x side cells. They are brand new.

[speedy gonnalo]

Originally posted by LouisB
Get a grip speedy, you're embarrassing yourself

Wow,Louis, I didn't know you had those words in your vocabulary:rolleyes:

[speedy gonnalo]

Originally posted by spenzalii
Man, I will never go out of town on the 4th of July again!

I have to do a teardown of my drivetrain later on. for some reason, my belt has jumped off the rear diff twice for no apparent reason. The tension was set normally. I gave it some gas, it took off, slid to the side and did nothing. That and my front CVD's have developed an odd squeek when I turn them. Very odd. And it's not like I have a crazy wind on the car wither (P94 12x2 on 7 cells). Plus, I have to resolder my pack. My first time building cells hasn't been very good it seems. Add to that I tore up second gear on my LD3 and my LHS will love seing me this week...

Speedy,speedy, speedy. You really do seem to like running your head into the wall :banghead: As far as the battery thing, try cycling them
Ok ,the first time i ran my car the belt came off. The screw that holds the spur gear on, get the right size allen wrench or whatever you use. Take the gear cover off and loosen the screw that holds the spur gear on until it is really loose. pull the spur gear up with the belt on it and then tighten the screw until it won't turn anymore. As far as the cvds, try some stealth tranny grease.

[TSR6]

Originally posted by speedy gonnalo
They are duratrax 1500 pirahna hump batteries converted to side x side cells. They are brand new.

You probably want to invest in some better cells. Those would be fine for practice packs, but as you've found out, they just don't cut it as race packs.


Originally posted by speedy gonnalo
Wow,Louis, I didn't know you had those words in your vocabulary:rolleyes:

I could probably say the same thing about you. Vocabulary is a big word for some kids.:p

[speedy gonnalo]

Who knows how to fix the bar thing at the top ofthe computer screen? I need help fast, before someone finds out.

[TSR6]

Originally posted by speedy gonnalo
Who knows how to fix the bar thing at the top ofthe computer screen? I need help fast, before someone finds out.

It would help if you gave even the slightest clue to what you are talking about.

"before someone finds out" LOL ...and what have you been doing? or do i not want to know? :p

Who's your favorite little rascal, Alfalfa, or is it SPANKY. :p

[speedy gonnalo]

Originally posted by TSR6
It would help if you gave even the slightest clue to what you are talking about.

"before someone finds out" LOL ...and what have you been doing? or do i not want to know? :p

Who's your favorite little rascal, Alfalfa, or is it SPANKY. :p

The bar with back,forward,history,favorites and the address.

[speedy gonnalo]

OH WELL

[thedominator]

Originally posted by speedy gonnalo
Who knows how to fix the bar thing at the top ofthe computer screen? I need help fast, before someone finds out.

lol...whos going to find out. :p

I finally got My G+ together and its awesome. The suspension set-up from the manual works really well. I can't wait till racing.

[TSR6]

speedy - View < Toolbars < Standard Buttons. :rolleyes:

So who is your favorite Little Rascal?

dominator - awesome! At some point, You may want to change the front springs. Not very many people stick with the purple springs. Usually either blue or silver work well in the front.

With stock, rubber tires I run blue springs all around for LRC, and silver for HRC. :)

Foam is a different story.

-Troy

[speedy gonnalo]

Just shut up.

[spenzalii]

Now, now children, play nice...

I fixed the belt on my ride, re-soldered my 3400s and reglued my tires on the rim. Then it rained. Bummer. Oh well, I need to get ball ends and ball studs anyway, so I may as well wait till this weekend. I have the pics of the car, but have yet to get them developed (still have half a roll left) so they will be coming soon