Duratrax Nitro Evader BX

[StevePond]

[777]

These seem to have the same motor as the Evader ST, so I imagine that they will be similar in many ways. What kind of top speed should we expect?

[T-maxx 4eva]

http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXDLL7**&P=7


hella awsome nitro bx. I'm gettin one the first day my lhshas em'!!!

[NitroBoy24]

Thats what I thought. But this is a 1/8 scale if im not mistaken and it runs a .21 instead of the .18 Sorry, dont know any speeds either:(

[seca95]

actually it is 1/10 and has a .18 just like the truck

http://duratrax.com/cars/dtxd67.html

[NitroBoy24]

Yeah, I thought I saw something on it being a 1/8 w/a .21 but apparently not. O well I tried. Just went to the Duratrax site and Im wrong.

[Havoc223]

Well I just ran it for the first time today and I have nothing but good things to say about this buggy.Break in went beautifully without a hitch but before you start it for the first time I would check the high speed needle valve.Mine was a little rich.I brought along my starter box just in case but found the buggy would easily start on the first or second pull.Tunning it was a snap - just do it in 1/8 to 1/4 incriments.After 7 or 8 tanks I found that it would easily pull wheelies which I'm not really happy about because you have no steering control and the bottom of the battery box gets worn out.Needless to say it has plenty of top end and I would highly recommend this buggy to anyone who wants plenty trouble free fun.{I was a little hesitant to buy a Duratrax because of all the negitive posts about this company but from what I've experienced it's a great car at a great price.**


























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[pudder]

I'm thinking about getting the Nitro BX in the future sometime, may not be for a while, but I would like to get another nitro vehicle again.

Is there anything I should know about the vehicle before I get it, any weak points, things to watch out for? Insight to this would be good. Also, how does the DTX .18 perform? RCCA's review said it had a good amount of power, but can anyone tell me how it reacts to fine tuining, ease of tuning it, and its performance whence broken in?

Thanks for any replies.

[xtreamrush]

I just orderd my nitro evader BX yesterday from tower hobbies. Hopfully it runs just like what Havoc223 was saying.
one question though, how fast and what kind of handling does it have?

[pudder]

In RCCA's review, they said handling was great. Although because it is a buggy, it will bottom out over jumps easier than a truck, and as usual, won't handle bumps as well. It also runs short of grip than power, however, they said if you can manage, you might be able to pull off powerslides and what not.

Top speed was 34 mph I think.

[scorpien boats]

i was looking at tower and they have the nitro evader bx pro

but its not in stock till late dec. does anyone know what this new buggy will have??

(i have been wanting to get this buggy for a long time now)

[Wizardman_1]

tower made a mistake the bx and st pro are electric, all graphite, team orion 15T havok, 12t Intellispeed esc, futaba 2pl radio, proline tires. nice

[ST RACER]

how fast are these things. would they beat a max st pro or what?

[EvaderBX]

lets get this forum started again now! I wanna get one of these sooooo bad. Post some pics :D :D :D :D :cool:

[mdbeachy]

These are great little cars. I've always been hesitant to get a Duratrax but Towers had the prebuilt on sale for $166. I thought it looked like a good platform to build a nitro Eastern Dirt Modified on but after I ran it I'm not sure that I want to do that. I think I'll leave it as a buggy and see how many people I can surprise with this thing. My only complaint is that I would like to gear it for a little more top speed and less take off but I haven't been able to find a 32 pitch clutch bell that will fit it without having to do a mess of changes to the engine location.

[mdbeachy]

I've found a way to gear my car for more top end and make the clutchbell more durable at the same time. Order an associated spur gear for the 1/8 scale monster gt, it is the same pitch gear as the regular clutchbells that fit duratrax. They are built out of harderd steel and are larger in dia. so they should last a lot longer and give more topend at the same time.

[guver]

"Order an associated spur gear for the 1/8 scale monster gt"

you must mean the pinion gear/ clutch bell right?

[Mastec]

My LHS owner had some custom clutch bells made that will hold the Associated anodized pinions. He uses this setup on his BX and its awesome.

http://www2.gpmd.com/imaget/a/tascc2297.jpg http://www2.gpmd.com/imaget/a/tascc2300.jpg http://www2.gpmd.com/imaget/a/tascc2302.jpg http://www2.gpmd.com/imaget/a/tascc2303.jpg

I will post some pics when I pick one up on Thursday.

[mdbeachy]

Guver, sorry, I should have been more clear. I used part #LXGFW9 & LXD211. Both part numbers are from Tower Hobbies. That gives you a larger dia. clutchbell and more topspeed.

[guver]

that's what I thought you meant, that's a good idea.

[mdbeachy]

Unfortunitely it wasn't as good as idea as it looked. The spur gear wasn't offset enough to mate with the spur gear right and I ended up stripping the spur gear. So for now I switched back to the regular set up until I can find a spur gear that is flush on one side and not on the other.

[Mastec]

I picked up my new custom clutch bell, perfect replacement. The associated pinions screw onto it. The factory bell is a 15t, I added a 20t. OMG does it fly ... tires were ballooning like crazy. This weekend I am gonna pick up a 27t and probably rip the tires off the rims. LOL

http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/thumbnails/96709/Rp43889.jpghttp://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/thumbnails/96709/Up48091.jpghttp://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/thumbnails/96709/Hm22696.jpg

[guver]

Oh man that is too fast....

[Mastec]

Change of plans. The tires came off the rims with the 20t so I am staying away from the 27t. LOL Can't go WOT or the tires just start spinning. I have foam showing thru one of the tires and I did not finish one tank of fuel.

[mdbeachy]

Does he have any more of those bells available. I would like to buy one if possible.

[Mastec]

Yea. Just called him and he will do mail order.

(815)932-6100
Attn: Brian
Wimpy's Hobby World
North Convent Center #8
263 N Convent Ave
Bourbonnais, Illinois 60914

[mdbeachy]

Thanks for the info. Just got off the phone with him and it will ship out Monday :D It should work out great because I already have a bunch of Nitro TC3 pinions on hand and I won't have to keep trying different spur gears.

[Mastec]

Good Deal :) ;)

[Mastec]

BTW, there is NO room for adjustment using the 20t pinion and the 60t spur gear.

[guver]

I'd like to see a 2 speed trans like in the odst. not reverse though.

[mdbeachy]

Mastec, you were right about the lack of adjustment when you put a 20t pinoin gear on with the 60t spur. I took a small file and made the adjustment slots just a little longer to allow for a little play between the gears. Put it all together and man it flies. Almost to much top end for my track, I would be better off with a 18 or 19 tooth pinion. At least with the 20t it doesn't top out 3/4 of the way down the straight like it did with the 17 tooth clutch bell.

[Mastec]

mdbeachy, I bought a 56t associated spur gear. It made a little more room. I will have to pick up a file and work on my adjustment holes this weekend. I wore out a set of offroad rear tires in two tanks ... OOPS. That was money out the window. :)

I told you the custom clutch bell is awesome. I've been having a blast running oval with the new clutch bell, the straightaways are lightening fast. I am still looking for other spur gears to fit so the other pinions will work.

[holeshotkid]

I put a fuel tank from an RC10GT on my BX. It is designed way better than the Duratrax tank. I didn't want to drill new mounting holes So I used only one of the original holes and the used velcro to secure the rest.

Does anyone elses buggy just die after a few minutes of running? I am getting frustrated and thinking of swithing to electric because my engine won't run long enough for me to have any fun. It will run fine for a little while and then it just dies like someone hit a kill button. :mad: The new tank helped but it still won't run very long. I have richened and leaned the mixture, rerouted the fuel line, and lengthened the pressure return line but nothing works, and now I have to order a new pull-starter because my broke the other day. :mad: :confused:

[jasonw]

I have just about the smae problem. less than a 1/4 gallon through the motor and now it wont stay running. What a bummer I was verry happy with my duratrax electric truck but now I am not happy with them at all after the problems I have had with the nitro bx.

[bob333]

you should try switching fuel brands to the duratrax one if you havent already

[mrmac]

I put a fuel tank from an RC10GT on my BX. It is designed way better than the Duratrax tank. I didn't want to drill new mounting holes So I used only one of the original holes and the used velcro to secure the rest.

Does anyone elses buggy just die after a few minutes of running? I am getting frustrated and thinking of swithing to electric because my engine won't run long enough for me to have any fun. It will run fine for a little while and then it just dies like someone hit a kill button. :mad: The new tank helped but it still won't run very long. I have richened and leaned the mixture, rerouted the fuel line, and lengthened the pressure return line but nothing works, and now I have to order a new pull-starter because my broke the other day. :mad: :confused:
Hey I dont have the buggy but had the same problem with my ST. Sent it back three times. Finally I bought an after market cooling head from tower hobbies and switched to trinity monster power 20 percent and the engine runs real cool. And that engine is awesome now. :D The head cost 29 dollars but worth it. Also put on the associated gas tank. Hope this helps when you put the new head on bring it back to break in settings and lean out in small increments.. It will rock this motor has lots of torque so run it a little rich just as fast as when its lean ;) later

[resonantfreq]

is the BX the same as the ST just with a different body? this will be my first nitro car so I don't really know much about them. my lhs has a BX on sale and was wondering if it was the same as the ST performance wise.

[resonantfreq]

ok, i figured out they are different. now what I'd like to know is what are the pros and cons for each? Stadium Truck vs Buggy?

[viperfan18]

does any one know if, or how you could put a 2 speed transmission on one of these? i have a nitro evader bx and i would like to put a 2 speed on it but i haven't been able to find one or figure out how to make one to put on. are there any out there?

[viperfan18]

jasonw....my dads evader bx has about the same problem. except it doesn't run. and when it does it just stops running after a second of the motor screaming. i have tryed everything i can think of to solve the problem and there is no one that will help me. can anyone here help? please.

[viperfan18]

hey there..... i got a suspension question for you guys..... when i take a hard turn, left or right turn it doesn't matter, the inside rear tire always balloons out on me. i have taken the shock adjusters and turned them all the way down so that there should be maximum pressure on the tires. i also have the hard springs for the rear. i fugured that would help too. but the inside tire still balloons out on me. i think there is 30 or 40 wieght shock oil in the shocks right now. would changing that to an even heavier wieght help or is ther something else i can do?

[baldie]

I just ordered a nitro evader bx and will be recieving it on thursday...does anyone have any pointers for this car? Break in advice?

[jasonw]

Ok my BX dosnt have the flue anymore ;) Maybe somone can help me with this motor issue. The car has been shelved for a long time now. at least 2 months. I could not figure out the motor issues and duratrax would not work with me on the warenty so I just forgot about the car. Anyway I took it down today and filled up the tank. On about the 10th pull she fired up, after a minute I removed the igniter and to my surprize the car stayed running. Its wet rainy and miserable out today to I wont take it out but I ran a tank through it in the garage "With the glow igniter removed" and the car ran verry verry good. The only thing I noticed was the slightest bit of hesitation if you nailed the throttle from an idle but I am pretty sure all these little motors have the same aformentioned hesitation. Shoot I am shocked becasue I have done nothing to the car, I am even using year old fuel. It apears she just wanted to rest on the shelf for a while any ideas? Viperfan? As for the rear tire bolooning I would say its fairly normal. I never noticed mine doing it but then agan I never looked. You see these cars have a lot of HP for there size and all that is hapening is when you turn the weight is shifting and taking weight off the inside tire and making the diff work. Puting stiffer springs on or screwing the colors down will not fix this. All it will do doing those 2 things is hurt your handeling more. My car is still bone stock. I did not set up the suspention from the manual but I set it up from several years of experience in seting up offroad suspention and I am very very happy at how my buggy handels. The way mine is set up it absolutly huggs the dirt wereever it gose. Dont get my wrong I can make it spin out but it takes some swearving to do this. Anyway hope this help and hope somone might be able to answer my question. Thanks in advance. and dont forget the foot hill r/c club www.caltel.com/~jasonw thanks for the support.

[baldie]

Well I just got my evader bx from fedex yesterday and hoping I'll be able to do the break in tomorrow if the roads dry up from the rain. Can't wait.

[viperfan18]

jasonw? how did you set up your suspension?

[NitroNewby]

Please help-I have had my Nitro Evader BX for about 2 weeks and it's my first car so I'm relatively new to this. Here'e the problem: Once I start the engine, I have to keep the brake pressed or it will drive away. The engine idles entirely too high and will actually increase on it's own. I have tried adjusting the Rich/lean ratio with no success. I have also tried the idle control - which will only raise the idle higher or stall the car. Please help I am getting very frustrated. Has anyone else had this problem?

[guver]

Maybe the servo is holding carb open? try adjusting trim.

[NitroNewby]

The trim is turned all the way - if I adjust the trim, it idles even higher.

[NitroNewby]

and why do my brake idsc & brake nut keep getting chewed up?

[NitroNewby]

First off - thanks for all the help. Someone reccomended checking the clutch spring. I finally got the clutch bell off ( the bearing was holding it on pretty tight but I pryed it off) and the clutch and spring are in great shape. I was able to remove the stripped hex screws with a drummel to cut a notch in the hex screws ( so I ordered a new motor mounting kit) and the new brake nut and brake plate are on the way. I have the motor pulled off so I'm gonna clean it up and reassemble it when the parts arrive. But I'm still stumped. What is causing the engine to idle so high, almost like it is stuck open? That's what engages the clutch and makes the car move forward at an idle. It only does it after the engine is hot. Whatever the problem, it also cause the throttle to stay open - whiile driving it, when I throttle up about 1/2 way, sometimes the engine won't or has a hard time winding down.

[guver]

If you can't close the throttle and the trim is all the way then you have to move the servo arm a notch or adjust linkage.

All this can/should be done on the bench b-4 starting engine. I don'yt do nitro, but here's what I would do

turn on radio and truck.
set trim to middle.
verify the carb is closed at idle and
verify it goes wide open
verify it squeezes brakes.

[guver]

maybe idle is set to lean as well. I'm not real good with adjusting mixture, but there are lots of recommendations.

[RWilliamson]

Here are some links to tuning guides and beginer nitro tips.

10 Nitro Tips (http://www.rccaraction.com/rc/articles/10nitro.asp)

How to Keep Your Engine Running Cool (http://www.rc-car.com/detail.asp?id=100)

Nitro Review's How do I break in my engine? (http://www.nitroreview.com/hintstips/enginebreakin.cfm)

They also have a Engine troubleshooting guide under their Hints & Tips section. If you don't know a whole lot about Nitro Engines this is good starting point.

Hope these are helpful.

[metric69]

iam looking at purchasing this buggy and was wondering if yuo can purchase different tires for it and also different bodies for it. like truck bodies and stuff like that. i like the tires but would like to put larger tires on it. there as so many adds out there for this truck and they all range in price. my local dealer is selling them for 495.99 Canadian and i don't think that is a very good price.
i do see it is coming with a os .18 engine are they speedy and do they stand up.

any info would be great as i would like to get into nitro as i have a few electrics and now i would like to get into some speedy action at the track.

anyone with pics of there trucks out there lets see some!!!

how are they for hop ups?

[baldie]

That is an excellent buggy. I had this buggy for about a month but sold it only because I wanted something to bash with. This buggy is quick. I was susprised at the speed of it. From what I hear there are hop-ups for this buggy and you can also change the tires as well.

[RWilliamson]

This buggy kicks a$$. It’s cheap, easy to tune, fast, I mean sick fast and depending on your imagination and building skills, has all the potential for hop-ups you can think of. Don’t let anyone talk you out of it, there are a lot of people out there that claim the Associated and Losi cars/trucks are better, but their full of it. I’ve done some research and found this buggy to be almost identical to the Associated RC10GT. I downloaded the exploded view for the RC10GT and the chassis, transmission (hell the whole drive train from the clutch bell to the wheels) is exactly the same. The chassis bracing up front and the steering linkage are the only real differences I can find. Again there are some people out there that will start spouting off about quality of workmanship and materials and blah blah blah… Most of these things are 90% plastic! If you take the thing apart, clean up the edges and lube it properly it will be just as good if not better than the expensive ones.

I just put stadium truck tires on the rear, replaced the plastic transmission gears with aluminum and put a Baja Bug body on it. I plan to remove some of the plastic covers and bracing from the front and replace the steering linkage with the one from Associated. I was thinking about widening it with the stadium truck parts but blew it off once I put the truck tires on it. That made it plenty wide for me, plus I think it might start looking funny with a bug body if the thing gets too wide.

A buddy of mine has a HPI MT2 and this little buggy blows it away. We put on street tires and went to a school parking lot near by and opened them up. He took off first, so now I needed to catch up. Well I did and I passed him doing a wheelie. This thing seems to have a butt load of mid range torque. This was before I put the truck tires on it. Not so much torque anymore but even more top end since I didn’t regear it for the larger dia. tires.

Anyway that’s my 2, I mean 10 cents. I tent to ramble on. Go get one you won’t be disappointed. Oh and I don’t know what the current exchange rate is but Towerhobbies has it RTR for 249.99 and prebuilt (no radio) for 199.99, that’s US $.

[metric69]

hey tks for the info i just ordered mine for $315 plus tax Canadian.

what is the part # for the metal gears you put in i think i should do the same thing.
again tks for all the info and it's nice to see someone who has one say nothing but good things about it. :D

[RWilliamson]

Here are 2 links to the gears. I couldn't find the Duratrax part #'s but you can print them out and take them to a LHS, they should be able to look them up and order them.

DuraTrax Idler Gear Alum Evader Series (http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXFZP0&P=Z)

DuraTrax Diff Gear Hard Anodized Alum Nitro Evader ST (http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXFWF3&P=Z)

I know the diff gear says ST but it's exactly the same, so don't let the LHS guy give you any greif, just tell him to order it. Does it sound like I've had some issues with Local Hobby Shop's? Let's see, some of the typical response's I get are:

Why would you want to do that? :confused: (Because! Now just order it!) :mad:
Ummm, that's not in the manual. :confused: (No *****! Now just order it!) :mad:
Well that won't work. :confused: (Yes it will! Now just order it!) :mad:

Ok, engough venting. Hope you enjoy your Evader as much as I've enjoyed mine. Cya.

[jasonw]

should i rebuild my shot dtx.18 or replace it? i would like to get the much needed expirience rebuilding it but is this a wast of time and money? thanks in advance

[RWilliamson]

Definitely rebuild it. It’s much cheaper, unless you were unhappy with the performance of the .18. Even if you get a new engine, eventually you’ll have to rebuild it as well. Tower has a piston and sleeve for 30 bucks and if you need a new connecting rod it’s $7.29. If you decide to get a new engine, just keep in mind you'll have to get a new exhaust unless you find an engine that can use the existing one especially if performance is your reason behind changing engines.

[jasonw]

I am extreamly happy with the performance of the DTX. I have just heard others say it was not a good motor so I wander if I should invest in a better motor. Also my DTX only lasted through about a quarter gallon of fuel, I dont know if it fryued so fast do to a quality issue or oporator errer.

[mdbeachy]

It's a good motor, its just that it is a nickle plated sleeve and can't take overheating very well. If only Duratrax would get os to make a chrome plated sleeve for it then they would have something.

[jasonw]

Yes that would be nice. Or maybe if somone from O.S was refered to this forum they could take it apone them selves to make a new sleave. I am not in a big rush to get the car running aga. Electric has been so much hasle free and fun for me.

[metric69]

just got my nitro bx and iam pumped to get it going. I will give it a try after work tomorrow and start the break in. any suggestion to make it easy on a newbie? I am hope the weather stays warm so i can get some time to play with it.

[jasonw]

Only suggestion I can give is watch those temps. Dont use the water drop on head method. Clearly that did not work with me, Invest in a good onboard temp gauge

[holeshotkid]

check out the chunk missing from my engine. this must be the cause of all my frustration. i think it was a defect in the motor so i am going to send it back to duratrax.

[jasonw]

Dont be upset if they charge you. Duratrax was much less than helpfull with my situation wich is why I am no longer interested in nitro and will not buy or promote anymore duratrax products

[NitroNewby]

Does anyone know the factory settings for a duratrax .18 . i need the settings for the high speed needle, the low speed needle and the idle.

[NitroNewby]

Ok - I think I found the problem. It looks like the servo arm (that
attaches to the carb) is getting hung up on the brass fitting for the low
speed and can;t close all the way. How can I fix this?

[RWilliamson]

Ok - I think I found the problem. It looks like the servo arm (that
attaches to the carb) is getting hung up on the brass fitting for the low
speed and can;t close all the way. How can I fix this?


I'm not sure exactly what the problem is but it could be that the nut that holds the rotary arm that the linkage attach's to is loose, which can cause the problem I think your describing. Just loosen it more so you can close the carb all the way and re-tighten the nut. It's happened to me too. It gets just loose enough to cause the problem but it's not obvious enough to catch quickly. Hope that helps.

[NitroNewby]

OK - new problem. I tried to start my car this weekend and the motor is locking up. The pull start just barely turns or won't turn at all. It did fine at first, while i was priming it( to start the fuel up the fuel line) but then it got harder and harder to pull. What gives? what is causing this?

[RWilliamson]

OK - new problem. I tried to start my car this weekend and the motor is locking up. The pull start just barely turns or won't turn at all. It did fine at first, while i was priming it( to start the fuel up the fuel line) but then it got harder and harder to pull. What gives? what is causing this?

Sounds like it's just flooded. Remove the glow plug dump out the fuel and try again. Hope it's that's simple.

[NitroNewby]

I tried to run my car today and the damn thing wouldn't start. I pulled so many times I got a blister on my finger. Any ideas to try?

[guver]

New glo plug maybe?

[metric69]

I have my bx almost broke in i think and now iam having a problem with it being supper slugish at the start, almost like brake is on or something but after driving up the street a bit it will repond better but not like it should be. iam thinking it could have something to do with the neddle settings. will try back to factory settings as soon as this new snow fall melts.

[haynosity]

I have run about 6 tanks through my ST and i think its time for a new glow plug, I took out the plug and i noticed that the end portion of the wire is not glowing. It runs ok but i am having a hard time fine tuning the engine.

[metric69]

I have my bx almost broke in i think and now iam having a problem with it being supper slugish at the start, almost like brake is on or something but after driving up the street a bit it will repond better but not like it should be. iam thinking it could have something to do with the neddle settings. will try back to factory settings as soon as this new snow fall melts.
now what iam having a problem with is the idel is very high and the car just want to go as soon as i get it started and when i apley the brake it hold a bit but not much i don't even have to pull the throtle and it will gane speed some what fast. i have tryed everything i know could someone mabe give me a few pionters

[mosely83]

Does anyone know of any good drop-in engines for the buggy, because my dx-18 is shot and i don't feel like rebuilding it, it sucks, i want a different engine any help would be great

[Sqwally]

Get an O.S. .18CV-RX.The one with the rotary carb and standard crnakshaft is a direct drop in.Have one in my ST.Easy to tune,runs great and no mods needed.

[HAL9000]

Just got my Duratrax Nitro Evader BX in the mail. Bad news is it came with a broken gas cap.:mad: Should i send the entire buggy back to tower hobbies or send for a new gas tank?
Thanks.

[mdbeachy]

The best thing to do is call Tower's and ask them how they want to handle it. That way you won't run into any snags.

[wannnarace]

does anyone know if rustler or jato rims fit in the bx, atleast the back rims??

[wannnarace]

Just got my Duratrax Nitro Evader BX in the mail. Bad news is it came with a broken gas cap.:mad: Should i send the entire buggy back to tower hobbies or send for a new gas tank?
Thanks.

well a whole gas tank is only five bucks and it will cost money to send it back so i would just get a new gas tank from a local hobby shop

[wannnarace]

I tried to run my car today and the damn thing wouldn't start. I pulled so many times I got a blister on my finger. Any ideas to try?


I had the same exact problem and what it was that the o ring on the gas tank wasnt good so i got a new one and it started right up...Or it might be the glo plug