AHH!!!!!!! Terra $#$#

[Monster19]

i've been struggling to tune in my terra crusher for the last hour... im got so pissed off i ended up smashing the gas tank to pieces anyways.. besides the gas tank i guess i need some help here. it takes me a while to get the thing started.. 5 minutes...of none stop electric starter button pushing action... then it finally gets going but i have to keep the throttle in to start it.. then when i finally get it starting i have to ref the thing to %#@#to keep it from dying.. i put it on the box with the wheels in the air keeping the throttle up then slowing letting it go.. but the wheels are still going FAST and then it just dies.. whenever i let go the throttle it dies... i made it rich i made it lean. im so sick of this truck. im thinking about taking it to the hobby shop and letting them tune it for me but thats just too embarresing

[Monster19]

oh and where can i find a new fuel tank

[2.5 guy]

See if you can get the tank from Tamiya

[Monster19]

nope you can't order stuff off the their website tower has it.. but its gonna cost me 12 dollars for the fuel tank and 17 dollars for shipping plus taxes.. and after currency conversion its gonna cost me 50 bucks canadian for a stupid gas tank.. yea right..

[wizen2002]

I won't even bother telling you advice cause all i giving you in the past you never took into consideration....

Proof is your still struggling with a piece of junk engine...The truck is not a peice of junk ....The truck is awsome but the engine is pure junk....

I wouldn't even waist my time tuning that engine i would take it my hands and throw it as far as as can or take a sledge hammer and beat the **** out of it...

[2.5 guy]

Originally posted by Monster19
nope you can't order stuff off the their website tower has it.. but its gonna cost me 12 dollars for the fuel tank and 17 dollars for shipping plus taxes.. and after currency conversion its gonna cost me 50 bucks canadian for a stupid gas tank.. yea right..

see if u can find a cheaper 1. Try www.hobbytown.com (http://www.hobbytown.com) or http://www.hobbyshopnow.com

[Viperrgh2]

wizen i like that idea, lol i took apart my pro 15 and messed that thing up and for my hpi stocker like lets just say about 6 fins of the head are missing...lol :)

[Monster19]

Wizen.. i really want to take your advice and dump a bigger engine in there but im broke.. i need to do things the cheapest way possible

[Monster19]

and by the way.. since you have a savage maybe you can tell me.... if i will struggle like this with that truck?

[wizen2002]

savage or terra crusher both have there share of problems....

the savage needds all the drive shafts or dog bones to be upgraded to heavy duty ones right from the start...the steering servo needs to be replace also along with a better servo saver.....

But one thing the savage savage has is that it comes with a darn good reliable engine and is a blast to bash with....The fun never ends once every bugs are worked out....Just like terra crusher once its all set up good its one real nice truck to have....

[Monster19]

ok ok .. you convinced me.. i'll see if i can buy an engine this month.. what do you recommend .. for the best performance and budget

[Monster19]

i was saving for a savage but i guess i might as well fix the first problem before getting another

[Noreaga]

Is the Terra Crusher your first Nitro R/C? I would consider learning that one before you run out an get another one, cause then you will have 2 trucks making you mad cause they are not running right. The Terra Crusher only has a single needle carb, you think tuning that is hard? Wait till you try tuning a 2 needle carb, you will really be getting headaches...

[Blitz Bayonet]

Hi,guy,i have a Terra Crusher also.The truck is very good for enjoy bashing.One thing i don't know is,why the exhaust pipe of my Crusher always come some nitro fuel from it?After bashing for 10 minutes,it is still the same,even though i lean the needle valve,what happened?Crusher is very good in durability,very good...and you guy have any suggestion on this truck?

[wizen2002]

Monster19

First thing i would recommend you are ditch the stock tires they are too heavy get some savage tires with rpm stable maxx off set rims and proline ultra firm tire foams....

Next if don't wanna reallly sink to much into it and still have a good truck and fun bashing truck i would recommend getting the OS .15 CVRX engine with a dynamite 1/8 scale off road competition tune pipe.....

OH and the most important mod and get rid of the reverse buy kippsters FOC conversion.....

I can tell you with this set you will be in TC heaven....

IF you wanna go .21 i know your from canada and buying stuff from state is expensive try phoning new era model and ask them about shipping thru global pririty mail or USPS DOT i repeat DOT NOT never ever buy anything from the states UPS they will charge you a huge amount of duty and brokerage fee......

So there you have it.....Will i see another post of you being pissed at your tc again?or will take into consideration the tips i offered to you?

[Monster19]

No you wont, im gonna buy a new engine for sure instead of investing in a savage this month.. i want to go with .21, i might as well make it worth the while while im at it. Does O.S make good engines? what other .21's will fit without TOOO much off an hassle..im willing to spend $400-500 CAD and i can get the guys at my shop to make me some spur gears and stuff

[wizen2002]

For the engine I highly recommend the ofna force .25.....I have 3 of those engines and they are very reliable......

If you access to a machine shop i can send you one of my own prototype spur gear to be machined wich allows you to use a 1/8 scale off road buggy clutch system in the terra crusher.....ITs performance is phenomenal.....over stock.......

I had one machined from a company from montreal and it cost me 260 dollars....But it was worth it....:)

Stay away from the hyper line of engines the pull starters are junk
and the engine is very hard to break in plus it uses a turbo fan inside and when your engine gets hydro locked and you get to pull the pulls starter the fan unit cracks....Beleive me I have one and i have put the cross on the hyper line of engine cause it has ruined to many hours of my hobby....

Best place to find an ofna force .25 is ebay and ask the seller if he can bring the value of package to lets say 20 dollars or so so you don't get nailed with a huge duty fee charge....

[Monster19]

send me the print of your gear .. i work in a pretty big machine shop the guys will burn it out on a EDM machine for me.. it will take a while cause they are bussy now but i can ask them to make me a few .. besides the engine .. what else do i need.. why do you NEED to make a better spur gear isn't there anything else that fits?
.. what engine mount do i need and stuff?
did they harden your spur gear?

[Monster19]

you can email it to me at beukes_83@hotmail.com
or my icq number is 21578032
is there any sput gears that i can buy that will go straight on .. or do you HAVE to get it custom made..

[Monster19]

wow there isn't very many .25 ofna forces around

[Monster19]

what other good engines is there... there is only 2 ofna forces on the entire ebay... new eramodels dont have them in stock... tower doesnt have them.. neither does great hobbies

[wizen2002]

Nitrohouse.com has them......

Ok for the gear dimensions it goes as follow....

diameter:40mm
face withd:5mm
center hole:9mm
number of teeth:37 1m module

Make sure to get an ofna 15 tooth clutch bell and flywheel with 3 shoes set up....and don't forget to buy the engine nut...all of these you can get from nitro house i beleive.....

This is the prototype gear i started with and used jb weld in the center then redrill a 9mm hole in the center (http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXM837&P=7)



Ofna 3-Shoe Clutch Kit (http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXBZT6&P=7)

Ofna Hardened Clutch Bell 15T (http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXBL93&P=7)

Kyosho Engine Mount UNDXTBIF this is the engine mount is used (http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXU179&P=Z)



Dubro Dura-Collars 5/32" (4) used underneath the engine to raise the engine for proper clearance (http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXD834&P=7)

[Monster19]

Did you install the prototype sput gear that you gave me the link to into your truck and it ran fine? what was wrong with it if not

[Monster19]

what engine nut do i need.. Im sorry i'm asking so many questions.. im in the dark here..
by the way i found an ofna force .25 brand new for 200 .. i am probably gonna go buy it tommmorow

[wizen2002]

you will need part#OFN10090 clutch nut pilot shaft......and also for the header use HPI savage header with a dynamite 1/8 scale off road competition tune pipe......


My savage is just collecting dust now....Since all those mods were made especially the 1/8 sclae cltuh system and spur gear...wow phenomenal power and handling.....

For shock set up i use 80 weight shock oil and that gives me lot of dampening....

[Monster19]

thats probably everything i need right. thanks alot man i appreciate the help..

[robc]

Go to www.ultimatehobbies.com you can get a .25 w/pullstart for $109 or a Hyper .21 8-port w/pullstart for $119.
Oops, didn't see you were from Canada.:(

[wizen2002]

they don't ship to canada

[wizen2002]

AS far as the the prototype gear goes don't try it it will strip within a few tanks of fuel....But its performance is phenomaenal over stock....Have it made in harden steel...If you can have it made in aharden steel i would be interested in buying a few from you.....

You will need some K&S504 K&S Music Wire .062 to make your own throttle wire....along with DUB167 Dubro Bellcranks 90 Degree (2) for the throttle linkage and DUB489 Dubro E/Z Connector Heavy Duty 2-56 to accept the k&S wire....Using the EZ connectors is a greaat mod it elimitates having you to make a Z bend in the music wire....Z bends in the music wire tend to make throttle binding somtimes....

and you will need a post to mount your 90 degree bellcrank on....The post should be 72 mm long and have 2 hole on each end to accept a 3 mm Hex bolt....

I will email you the chassis template as to where the hole as to be drill for the post.....

[Monster19]

thanks for your help, i ordered an engine today hopefully they will get it soon... i am waiting for the prototype gear i ordered it of greathobbies yesterday and they dont have it in stock yet.. do you have any idea what kinda steel they used to make your gear... i am thinking about making i from viscount 44 wich is a pretty hard steel.. i have to get the guys at work to burn the gears for me on an EDM machine .. ill ask them if the canmake me more than one but i have to get the exact dimensions and stuff first.. i need to know what angle the teeth are on.. what the pitch diamter is... what do you mean by face width? do you have a print or anything like that off the gear that you can send me?

[wizen2002]

If you ordered the prototype spur you will have all the dimensions needed to complete the terra major crusher project...

Face witdh is the thickness of the gear itself does that make any sense to you?

I don't have a print for it....I assume that the only ones that would have the print for it is the company from Montreal who machined it....Maybe they didn't even used a print....

Cause they went with the dimensions from the prototype gear i had send them....Nothing complicated...They didn't used any high tech lazer cuting machine to do it lol.....

Just remember the center hole of spur has to be 9 mm.....What i did with the hpi gear was fill both side with JB weld then sanded both side flush to the gear face withd....then i drill a 9mm hole in the center....

Don't go tthru to this process once you have the gear or even the clutch bell you should be able to go form there.....

Heck I could of sent you one of my stripped one so you could of seen the angle of the remaining teeth on it......

[wizen2002]

just make sure to get a FOC conversion cause the .25 will smoke your reverse and first gear tranny one way bearing....To much torque....Beleive me i went thru like 5 of them until i finally went FOC.....

[Monster19]

its ok.. i should get my prototype in a week or 2.. the only reason they have to burn my gears out is cause we dont really have the machinery to make gears.. this is the only way hehe .. oh well its better quality .. if it doesnt take them too long to cut these things then i'll ask them to make me a few and i'll send you 1 or 2 .. i just dont want to get greedy and then they wont do it for me again. im so excited.. i hate waiting for all these parts.
how good is your LOW end.. can you lift the front wheels of the ground..with the set up you have now?

[Monster19]

where did you order your FOC from

[wizen2002]

I ordered my FOC from Kippster racing (http://www.kippster-racing.com/)

I have mine set up for racing so if had a 14 CB it would probably lift the front end up but with the 15 CB its just fast and torquy...

I wouldn't want the front end to lift off the ground on the track altought it happen sometimes...

[wizen2002]

new era models makes one also....

[wizen2002]

You will need a throttle return spring also part#HPI86101e....This simply hooks to your fuel inlet base and the other hooks to your carb throttle barrel ball end base.....

beleive me once you have all of these mods done including the tires...the tires play a big factor here cause the stock tires are way to heavy and will take to much torque out fo your engine.....You will have one kick A$$ MOFO terra crusher make sure you get the tires and foams i recommended and the RPM rims you can have thme in white dyable or in chrome finish....

[Monster19]

Wizen......

I was looking at the links you send me for parts to order and i went to the clutch bell and on the tower hobbies site they have the link for possible substitutes for the clutch bell.. and it takes you to a duratrax clutch bell.. and there is diffrent ones.. from 13 to 18 teeth anyways... will this clutch bell work on the .25 you think? because if it does then i dont know if its necesary to make the gears because the spur gear that fits on that clutch bell is a pretty solid steel spur gear.. i had one of them in one of my old duratrax trucks.. i dont know how good the gear ratio will be with a 52t spur gear to 13t clutch bell what do you think?

[wizen2002]

there is no way yoo can mount a 52 1 m module spur on the terra crusher FRAT...The largest you can go is 37 wich is 40 mm....try watever you want but i ofered you something that i know works now your puting everything into questioning.....

The set up that i have is bullet proof if you don't wanna go that way is fine with me....

I did all the R&D work on this one saving you all the waistless time on buying thing thats you know or don't know if it will work....

if you have the extra money to try something different go ahead my friend...its your money not mine...

[Monster19]

im just looking for more options.. im not as experienced as you im just asking questions..nothing wrong with that.

[nitroice0069]

hi i have a terra crusher and i was wondering if i could just drill some new holes get a .21 engine mount and mount an engine if it would fit and work or is it to big?



thanks for any help


James

[Monster19]

Yup... you can do that.. thats what everyone seems to be doing.

[Monster19]

Can you give me the link again to those Dyeable rims ?

[wizen2002]

sure

Here you go Bud (http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXBLM6&P=7)

Those are the best wheels i have ever had...make sure to get some proline ultra firm tire foams (http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXAWF4&P=7)

that with savage tires and you will have a blast....Be carefull with the .25... If it is set to lean and to much power is going thru the drive train you will pay the price...Run it on the rich side and by the time your half tank it will be a real screamer....

[wizen2002]

BTW i just ran mine today and before each time i start it adrenaline start pumping casue i know what i am going to get a real blast!!!!!!!!

[wizen2002]

To make the rims the color you want just buy some rit dye and find a bowl that you can put all 4 rims inside... Fill the bowl with hot water and put the whole friging package of rit dye in it ...stir it well then set the wheels in it for a good 20 to 25 minutes.....Then remove.....YOu will have nice looking colored wheels even if its black....or orange or yellow or watever....

[wizen2002]

i boiled my water on the stove than poored it in a boil it was hot and steemy....Don't make it too hot that the wheel will deform lol....

[Monster19]

I can't wait.. i bought most of the stuff.. im just waiting for it to arrive.. i cant stand this waiting.. it's torture..

[Monster19]

I just bought the rims
I ordered a engine..
bought the kippster .21 conversion racing chassis, kippster FOC,the engine mount, The savage gear, the rims the foams..i still need a clutch bell and clutch nut and stuff hopefully my LHS has it. i'll just pick up tires from my hobby shop.. and i will see , i'll order the rest off tower, this is costing me way more than i had planned.. lol oh well its worth it

[wizen2002]

One thing just be care full on the settings...If its set to lean it will produce so much power that your tranny will stripp or you'll blow a rear diff...

Once you find the sweet spot its just a blast....If you ordered a kippster chassis some mod will be needed in order for the engine to mount correctly....YOu will have to redrill holes....

YOu should of ask me before bying it cause the kkippster chassis in this project is useless IMO....

The best chassis to use on this project is a GPM chassis or a megatech chassis...They are very easy to mod....

Well I just hope that the kippster will work out for you....

YOu will have one kick a$$ terra crusher....

[Monster19]

i'll make it work.. even if i have to make my own engine mounts and stuff

[wizen2002]

don't be afraid of shaving some plastic off just behind the rear shock the one behind the engine to make sure your header clears the head bolt...I shaved like 1/16 off mine a little more than that.....know what iam saying?

[Monster19]

yea i'll make some space.. this is basicly not gonna a a terra crusher anymore..

[Monster19]

Hey wizzen, if you could make any modification to the spur gear that you have made.. for example, 1 or 2 more teeth or 1 or 2 less.. or a little wider or anything.. what would you do ? or is it just Perfect

[wizen2002]

its perfect!!!with a 15 tooth clutch bell its screamer if you want wheelie well then a 14 or 13 tooth would give you that...

But the 15 tooth cluth bell with 37 spur feel just like the right combination.....with the savage tires of course....ON the track its just sails thru the jumps and corners like a rocket....

I tested a 17 tooth CB with tmaxx tires and the thing would just go insaine....

stick with the plan and you'll be a happy camper...make sure to get some extra diff gears and FRAT G parts .....Cause i am sure you will go thru a set of those when trying to set up your engine....This is the weak spot of the TC...But when properly tuned you will enjoy hours and hours of pure fun....

When you get those gear cut i would like to have 1 or 2 and I would pay you for them....Let me know about that.....

[Monster19]

ok.. i will cut them according to the plan.. then .. use.. i will nag the guy to cut me a few.. i have to wait for the gear still it hasn't arrived yet.. it wont for another week im guessing..IF i get enough made i'll send you one for free cause you've been helping me out if i get lots and lots made i'll send you a few. but you just gotta wait a little bit cause i have to wait for the gear and it will take a couple days to get it made depending how much work i have at the shop.. i am thinking about try to make the

anyways yea ill just go with what you have.. i dont want to wheelie i just want the perfect gearing so that there isn't too much or too little force on the engine.. and what you have sounds right

[Monster19]

sorry bout that one sentence "im thinking about making".... just forget that.

[Monster19]

do you have a link to the diff gears or part number or antyhing

[Monster19]

never mind i found it

[wizen2002]

hey monster 19

i will be shooting a video maybe tomorow or somtime in the next days to come of the terra crusher on the track....You will be able to see how a bad a$$ truck it is with this set up....It out handles the savages hands down...Comparing both with same engine and tires....

I have a hard time keeping the savage on the track but not with the crusher it goes where you want it to go...and man does it have low end power i love it.. And i am very satisfied with all the set up and r&d work i put into this truck it was well worth it...

I can't wait till you have yours done and hear your thoughts about it...IT sure is a screamer!!!!!!

[Monster19]

trust me i cant wait either im going nuts waiting for stuff..
my terra crusher is waiting for me in the basement but i dont want to mess around with it till i have EVERYTHING ready.. do you have any tips on how i can make my Diff's stronger to prepare them for the big day? :)... what is the shim thing they do ? how do i put shims in it

[Monster19]

by the way did you notice the force .25 is discontinued, cause they are making the force.26 now.. i REALLY! hope my LHS gets it in.... they SAID they were ordering it .... im gonna be pissed if they dont. I dont want a force .26

[wizen2002]

ok here what I found about the kippster chassis when using a .21 + larger engine...It moves the FRAT a little more forward than other conversion causing the center rear drive shaft to not fully seat into the pinion gear in the diff....

To fix this you will have to mount the chassis and attach the FRAT to its .21 position...Next take the center rear drive shaft(front ddrive shaft cause you have to swapt them for the conversion) and put it in the rear diff untill its fully seated and make a mark on the drive shaft....

Now assemble everything and look where your mark is simply take the measurements and make an adapter for the right lenght....You will see that the sahft doesn't go far enough into the diff...Ssimply machine an addapter for it and bolt it to the end of the shaft then into the universal joint....

This sux huh?

[Monster19]

yea... i guess i should have waited.. but it shouldn't be a problem making the adapter.. i'll figure it out.. this is gonna be a HELLUVA job for a rookie... you think maybe i should send the full racing chassis back?

[wizen2002]

well that is up to you...A lot of poeple are running them without any adapters but little do they know what is waiting for them....

I know it as a fACT and proof cause i seen a full article on it made by CBR74...He took all the pictures of how the splines on the drive shaft end worn where the bearing are in the rear diff and he had an adapter made specificaly for it....

Where did you buy the chassis?LIke i stated before a flat GPM or silver megathech chassis works great for this and is cheap also...I use the megathech silver chassis it looks nice....I bought it off ebay....And i use a dynamite 1/8 scale competion tune pipe wich i remove all the black paint coating on it now it macthes with the silver chassis....

[Monster19]

i bought it off kippster-racing.com
i took a look at my diff shafts.. my back one looks a little worn ... maybe i should just order another pair and just use the two long ones .. that should work shouldn't it?

[Monster19]

otherwise i can just make an adapter.. its not a problem .. i work on a CNC lathe all the time

[Monster19]

can you send me a link the CBR's site so i can see what he made

[wizen2002]

OK no problem I invite to register to TC.net (http://www.terracrusher.net/) I am a moderator on that site....Once registered you can find the thread HERE (http://www.terracrusher.net/forum/index.php?act=ST&f=15&t=424&)

[Monster19]

k thanks i joined..
my computer is so retarted (or me) but im trying to play the videos you posted and none of them are working.. i get a Codec Error

[Monster19]

i looked at the adapter.. that is no problem to make at all... if thats the biggest problem im gonna have with the kippster Chassis then i think im keeping my Chassis..

[wizen2002]

you probably need to update your media window player or real player wich ever you are using.....

[wizen2002]

Don't forget you have to unzip the files before trying to view them....

[Monster19]

yea i figured it out.. they are pretty cool.. i can't wait.. im getting pissed i haven't received any of my parts that i ordered yet..im so impatient

[Maxx_A_Million]

im sorry you went with the .21... wizen, dont you remember all the problems everyone was having at TC central?? blown front diffs... and lots fo em... moving the tranny foreward messes up the drive hshafts angle of entry into the front diff, and will soon destroy either the shatf, the bearings, or the diff... i converted to a TRX 2.5, and i didnt ahve to move the tranny at all! i simply had to move my engine moutn foreward and gas tank back to make room for my custom linkage for the throttle... did it all in one night. since you did go .21, beware fo your front diff! fi anyone needs tips on converting to TRX 2.5, email me at Rc10Terror@yahoo.com or click Here (Rc10Terror@Yahoo.com)

[wizen2002]

sorrry Maxx_A_Million

IF you don't know what your talking about get lost....if you think your little 2.5 engine exite me well you have a long way to go my friend.....And you have the balls to come here and start a flame war?How dare you....

I had some probs with my diffs but it was not because of the engine power...It was because of the screws holding the ring in place coming loosing and making the ring and pinion coming out of mesh....

Go to TC central and you will see that not a whole lot of poeple are having diff issues...

Or this was just wanna of your attemp to take a tc.net member off to tc central????Nice tactic....

But you are just full of it....

[Maxx_A_Million]

actually... i couldnt care less where you spend your BB time. . . i havent been to tc central in a hwile... im just saying that when radmaxx and i like f150s did their .21 conversions (both new era and custom) they both blew out their fron diffs because the insertion angles to the axles are different... also, i dont care what you think about my 2.5 and i dont care at all about your .21, and apperently you misinterpreted what i said because i simpy implied that thre WERE problems with the front diff after the .21 switch... if i wanted to start a flame war, i wouldnt start it on a message board... id just get banned and id rather not do that because i like MTs...i used ot take you as a reasonably knowledgeable source... but ive officially gained my doubts...

[wizen2002]

well

You made statements like drive shaft angles...If you don't know what your talking about don't try to go on a subject without any actual facts....

What i like 150 went thru had nothing to do with the drive shaft angle but it had to do with the drive shaft lenght...So there you go...Hope this will clear things up for you....And if you read thru all this topic I mention it to monster 19 so he can fab his own adapter so his rear drive shaft will be the right lenght....

Its not the front drive shaft that is the problem its the reaar drive shaft that is to short....end of the story....Nothing to do with the drive shaft angle at all.....

I don't like you stepping in and make vague statements...Not 0only does i know you know little of what you are talking about but it reallly pisses me off....

When monster 19 is done with his terra crusher it will be unique and no savage will come close to it unless they have a RB engine in them...

Sorry if I jumped on the horses but know the facts before making statements like drive angle....that problem doesn't even exist for christ sake!!!!But the drive shaft lenght prob is one.....

[Monster19]

LOL.. Yea my truck is going to be VERY unique after im done with it I wonder i can even still call it a terra crusher. hehe

Max-A-million, i rather make it a more challanging project... planning out how everything is going to work and putting it together is more fun than just dropping a engine in and your done..I like the challange and puttting work into the truck and making things fit feels good and is a big part of the hobby...I don't think i'll regret the engine.

[Maxx_A_Million]

ok. . . im every forum i frequent i tell peopel nto to listne to me unless theyre sure i knwo what im tlaking about... hehehe... in the mornings and late atnight, i just ype to type... my bad for being a jerk, and text cant quite express you. . . that wasnt meant to mean "youre stupid" more sympathetic. . . also, i do recall a post (dont knwo when or by who) where someone said that in order for the tc central style conversion, the front diff needed to be able to raise itself up about 15 degrees... thats what i was reffering to... also, on the 2.5, i was just ouside breaking mine in, and WOW. . . i think this thing is more then enough... a .21 must be awesome, but my track is always dry and low on traction anyway, so any more power than this and ill be screwed... glad our little scirmage(sp?) is settled... good luck and keep crushin...

fyi... i only read the first page... then got tired and replied... ;)

[Monster19]

What kind of flywheel am i gonna use?

can i just use anything that fits the engine?

my parts are starting to come in now im guessing i'll have everything by next weekend.. I HOPE!!

[wizen2002]

You need This flywheel (http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXBZT6&P=7)

read thru the topic i think i posted the flywheel nut also and you will need a flywheel collet for that flywheel....

[wizen2002]

flywheel nut is part#OFN10090 or this one OFN10098 CLUTCH NUT, SG SHAFT

[Monster19]

oh yea. i forgot i ordered that already i didn't remember.. but its on its way.

[wizen2002]

those clutch shoes and spring are tricky to install so before you install them make sure you have the right flywheel collet and put the clutch bell on to see how its fitting ....If it fits well then you install the clutch shoes....Just don't go and installl them right away cause you will have a hard time taken them off...

[Monster19]

ok.. i am still waiting for my hobby shop to get my engine in..
i finally got the spur gear ill try to get it made this week

[wizen2002]

you have to fill it with some JB weld and sand both side flush to the gear face with...Next drill a 9mm hole in the center...and you will have the prototype gear done...

The gear thickness as to be the same across the diameter....

[Monster19]

Wizen

How long did Kippster racing take to ship the FOC to you.. i'm waiting forever with them, they are so damn slow. I ordered my Chassis and FOC from them june 15 .. and they just deducted the money off my visa and i haven't heard ANYTHING, just pay pal send me email saying this much money has been paid

[wizen2002]

I ordered my stuff thru the RC house not directly from kippster....The reeason i didn't tell you about the the rc house is because the guy who runs the store has 2 business the rc/ house and a landscape business....And when he too busy with his landscape business well the rc house store goes dead for weeks and you don't get your orders and stuff....Then he always come back with the same old excuses oh there was a bug in our system and bla blal bla......so that i why I recommeded you doing with kippster directly......

YOu should be receiveing your parts don't worry email him and let him know about the situation...Wait another week....don't forget that friday is holiday also in the states....

[Monster19]

Why are you selling your crushers.

[wizen2002]

I need a tooth that needs to be fixed ASAP and need some cash ASAP....I broke a tooth just in the front while i was playing with plastic pen in my mouth and chewing on it and craked my tooth and it broke....do you know what i look now now with a missing teeth?***....That tooth i been treated before for a i don't know how you call it in english but they had to drill a hole in it and take some infection out of it then repatch the hole in the tooth....SO the tooth was basically dead in my mouth....I don't if your folllowing me.....

So to fix my tooth its going to cost 1800canadian dollars so i need money for that....Plus my sister is get married in august and i don't wanna be there with a missing tooth in my mouth...makes me look like a pirate LOL ewwwww

[Monster19]

AAARRRrrrrr maties.. haha.. just kidding.. i catch your drift.. well that REALLY sucks... don't you have a health plan that covers that???
I guess your not going to need that spur gear anymore????
Are you keeping your savage?

[Monster19]

I mean the spur gears that im making.. not your own

[wizen2002]

I would really like to have one of your spurs mine just gave away today:( ....260 down the drain....I am really pissed now...So i am going to sell it with the tmaxx clutch bell set up....But if can have one fab for me i would greatly apprciate it!!!!!

Yeah i havve a dental plan but i have to pay for my tooth then they will repay me 1500 maximum allowed for dental care...So i have to pay up front with my own money then send then the receipts...and then they pay me back...

THe savage is broken also the rear diff casing is all messed up i am waiting for some parts for it...I will see how it goes......

When i get paid back i migh get a 1/8 scale off road buggy instead cause since i made my track those mt's can't hold to my driving skills...and have proven to be not reliable at all on the track....

[Monster19]

Ok no problem i'll still make you one.. you just have to wait a little bit.... The guy who is suppose to make them went on vacation the day before i got the prototype gear so i have to wait 2 more weeks for him to come back... i'll make you one

I always HATED buggy's cause they are unrealistic...and they just look like they would snap in half if you make them jump but i know they are pretty tough.. I am starting to think i want one too... they are fast.. but first i wanna get myself a TXT-1 :)

[Monster19]

Wizen will you pay the shipping if i send you a gear ?.. you still intrested?

[wizen2002]

its ok now looks like i won't be needing it.....I sold all my tc stuff for like 300 us dollars...I had well over 1000 dollars in it...Including 2 spurtech metal spur gears and loads of extra new in package extra parts.....

I plan on buying another one in the fall....but will just put an os .15 CVRX engine in it......

I will be getting the savage ss also.....

[Monster19]

ok well .. in case you need one just let me know im getting 5 made .. they will be done this week i doubt i'll use them all...

You should see my crusher.. well whats left of it.. it looks sick.. I'm taking REALLY long with this project but its fun..

I made some collets to put over the Diffs and they are tight so the diff casing wont seperate.. and i made the extension for the drive shafts and that fits perfect.. and then the gears.. I hope this setup works.. but it seems solid.. but we'll find out

[Monster19]

I want to try to fit in the fuel tank at the front where the radio box use to be.. the tranny is bolted in and the driveshafts fits , here is a picture with the engine not bolted on but i lined the holes up with the holes in the chassis. and i put the fuel tank in the front where the battery is suppose to go.. telll me what you think.. this will make it easier to set the throttle linkages.

[Monster19]

do you think it will throw the weight off too much

[Maxx_A_Million]

well... .21 on the rear right, 150ccs of fuel on the upper left. . .
maybe a little... that youll ahve to worry about is having a REALLY light front end when your fuel gets low... btw, what other parts do you make for the TC? im interested in a spur and whatever else you may make...

[Monster19]

I just made myself 5 spur gears that fits on a ofna clutch bell and its gonna go with my 3 shoe clutch kit.. on the force .25 its not done yet but the gear should be done yet.. i have to see if its gonna work.... its a hassle for me to make the gears cause i have to send the thing around at the machine shop where i work and i dont want to abuse the guys.. so i dont really wanna say that i can make you a spur gear but if you wanna use the same setup as me then i have some comming this week

[Maxx_A_Million]

im running a maxx 2.5 setup. . . a better spur and diffs/cases is what im looking for. . .

[Monster19]

lol actual diff casings... im not that good yet... im only a machinist apprentice... so i cant that complicated kinda stuff yet.. thats what i only made some collets that go around the diff casings so they can seperate... when it takes stress...

[Maxx_A_Million]

can i get a pair of those then? i actually had the little bearing-holding extension part BREAK OFF... then again... that was when it fell out of the tree and broke the lateral chassy brace. . .

[wizen2002]

monster19

Looks like your getting there....seems you are using the same engine mount as i did?the kyosho one?don't forget to put 5/32 dubro collars underneaath it to raise the engine a tad.....

AS far as the fuel tank goes i would of left it in the stock position.......nice work!!!!!

[Monster19]

ok ill put the fuel tank in the stock position.. What do you use to connect the K&S wire to the carb? I'm trying to figure out what to do with the throttle linkages.. im pretty stuck i've never had a Slide carb before.. and yea i dont know how to setup the wire. i have that picture you showed me .. i dont have the exact same holes in the kipster chassis but i have some similar ones.. how do you bend the wire? Here is some pictures of the holes i have available, i mounted the post in a random hole just to experiment..

[Monster19]

Im still waiting for the stupid spur gear :( anyways here is another picture where i mounted the servo beside the tranny.. i love this chassis.. i can mount everything everywhere.

[wizen2002]

Hate to rain on your parade but that force .25 is a old version.....It has a 3 needle carb by looking at the pictures that i what i am seeing.....simply call ofna and they will tell you to send your carb in and you will need an extra head shim don't forget about the head shim....You need 2 of them....

If you don't do that well you are in for one good ride of pain and trouble....you will hav a ahrad time tuning the engine in the first place beacause of the head shim missing and the 3 needle carb is a bitch to tune....

For you throtle linkage do you know how to mount them onto your 90 degree bellcrank?i used DUB489 Dubro E/Z Connector Heavy Duty 2-56 ...and mounted them both up side down on the bellcrank to accept the music wire....I use set screws to tighteen them up instead of the socket head bolt that comes with them....

I will make a diagram to sow you how you throttle linkage should work....you said you werre a apprentice machinist?So you should know how to read plans,top views,side views,etc,....I am a journeyman steel fabricator and haave work in machine shop as well....well my first job i got when i started was in a machine shop.....they had smal structural steel contratcs beside the machining wich allowed me to get some hours in....It took a total of 7200 hours before i could write for a my journeyman liscence.....I passed it and got a the inter provincial red seal wich mean i ccan go work in any province in Canada and have a good wage.....

[Monster19]

yup thats what im doing im just starting out though im going to college for my first year in september. and i am doing the Tool & die Apprentice.. It helps alot in the hobby if you work in a machine shop..

Anyway, The first day I got the engine I i opened it up being the curious person i am and I remember counting 2 shims...
I'll open it up and check to make sure anyways..
I have the dubro ez connector things.. All i need is how to get the servo to push the slide carb... and pull the break .. i dont know how to bend the wires..

I got my gear today.. its fits BEEEEEAA-uuuuuuuuuTEEEEFUL its like the trophy of the truck

[Monster19]

oh and i didn't answer your question yes i can read blueprints

[wizen2002]

wow!!!! thats one awsome looking gear you got there...I am sure monster19 that you could make a fortune by selling those gears....

I can only wish you alll the luck with your project....The only thing you will have to do wich is boring is run that engine rich or else you will pay the price....The terra crusher IMO cannot take anything over 2HP so the .25 is more than enough make sure to run it rich if not you will be blowing rear diffs every 5 tanks of fuel....That is one of the reason why i sold mine cause i got tired of rebuilding the diffs and FRAT gears....If i buy another one i will only put a OS .15 CVRX engine in it...or i'll just buy a tmaxxor savage ss,or a buggy.....

Keep the pictures coming......I am not sure how you can make your throttle linkage cause i did mine using the front radio box....Use your imagination and don't be afraid to improvise on the throttle linkage....

the hard part is to figure out a way that when the break is applied no throttle is apllied.....maybe you should go on the hpi web site and look at the savage thottle assembly i think it would work great with your set up......

[wizen2002]

here is a picture of what i mean....The throttle servo saver would work great for your set up....

http://www.hpiracing.com/graphics/instr/savage/s21_p39.jpg

[wizen2002]

you have 2 arms in one assembly in the picture above one for the throttle and one for the break.....hope this help....

[Monster19]

if you know of anyone who wants to buy the gear then spread the word.. i have 5... im not gonna use them all .. Do you get a 2 needle carb if you send your 3 needle carb in?

i'll look on the savage website thanx

[Monster19]

what did you do to try and improve your diff's?
what do you think needs to be done so that the tranny can handle the engine?

[wizen2002]

one thing that can be done to improve the diffs is to buy aluminum diff cases wich will prevent flexing of the casing itself........

OR you can buy a clamp or you can machine your own one...like a C shape one...Look at the new era web site maybe you could fab your own ones.....This provides an agressive grip to the case it self....

Yes when you send your 3 needle carb you get the 2 needle carb free of charge......Just do it i ruin an engine by not doing it.....The engine was a bitch to tune and by the time a had it tune right i had went thru so many different set up that the engine was a goner......

The reason i said to go on the HPI web site was that you could see the servo saver shown in the picture above.....THe bottom arm is for the brake and the top one is for your trottle....Perhaps you might wanna order the proper HPI# parts and give it a try.....

[Monster19]

You mean like this clamp ? hehe i already made it and installed it.. on my diff... its REALLY!!! tight..

[wizen2002]

pretty neat......Looks like you will have one of the coolest terra crushers....bottom line is you have the mods needed that will improove performance....I don't know if your like me but i really enjoy looking at all aluminum mt's they look great but would I never spend money buying all aluminum hop ups they are just eye candy and only adds weight to your rig.....

[Maxx_A_Million]

ill never have an all aluminum TC... not because idont want one... btu because i ahve no job and acncm doesnt make a TC skeleton...

[Monster19]

i love all aluminum MT's maybe when i have my car payed off ill make mine all alluminum .. but then again i might as well buy other trucks with that money :)

All i need to do now is make my tranny more bullet proof and then it should be able to take the power.. i'll find out i guess.

[wizen2002]

just remember to not use the rubber slipper pad on this set up....just use the metal ones.....The 9mm center is pretty snug fit you might need to slighlty file the edges not a lot just a tiny bit......

[Monster19]

I got ripped with the engine.. i called ofna and they said i can't trade the carburator in cause im not the original owner of the engine cause i bought it off ebay and i need the original receipts... so im stuck with this hunk of crap .. of well if i blow the engine then ill know what not to buy .. ...
anyways can you tell me how i know for sure its the older versino of the engine.. cause i checked the head shims and there is 2 in there for sure. but how do i know its the older version? whats the third needle where is it?

[wizen2002]

hmmm strange ofna never asked me for any receipts.....well from looking at one of your pictures i could see a low speed needle(LSN).....the other one is on the other side of the carb and is call the the midlle speed needle(MSN)and the last one is on top of you carb wich is the high speed needle(HSN).....The middle speed needle can be easilly seen by its goldish finish.....

Just one tip for ya don't touch the needles and when its time to start it let see what happens.....

the new carbs come with 2 needles instead of 3 but if you can tune your engine with the 3 needle carb you'll be better set than a 2 needle one....its just that a lot poeple had a hard time tuning it with the 3 needle carb.....that is why they came up with a 2 neeedle one...

don't worry i'll help you out if you have any probs with the engine tuning cause i have 3 ofna force .25 and know pretty much how to tune them by now.....

[wizen2002]

here is what i saw that cought my attention

[Monster19]

I found out a guy at my work is a flow meter.. he will put the engine at the right settings for me so i can break it in properly.. im gonna buy one myself i think its a handy little device by the sounds of what he told me

[wizen2002]

I don't know about flow meter and if they work good on nitro engines but I would leave the settings like they are and give it a shot first...