Tamiya TL01B (off-road) Forum [Archive] - Page 2

Lewisboy

01-05-2005, 08:43 AM

my first real rc car was a TL01B. I ran it all over my yard and found out that the baja champ wasn't really champ. The tall grass was. It took me a while but I converted her over to be a touring car and a rally car at the same time. Kind of fun too.

Hi there Minijosh,

I'm new to R/C cars and have just recently bought and built a Baja Champ. I'm interested in aquiring the necessary bits to convert the TL01B chassis to the TL01 so that I can use it as a Rally car and an off-roader as you have done.

Initially I thought it was simply a case of buying a TL01 C Parts bag (with the shorter suspension arms) different wheels and tyres, body, different shocks?and swapping these over as and when.

In another post one guy asked pretty much the same question and he was advised to just buy another car as the cost would work out pretty much the same as buy individual parts. Is this the case and what would you recommend?

Incidently, I checked out your public info - nice biography (demolition?)
I guess you could say I get paid to make the boxes that have buttons which you guys can press to kill things.

Anyways

Cheers for any info if you're still able to get on the NET.

Chris

GT Freak

01-11-2005, 01:23 AM

I wonder.... has anyone tried putting SBF wheels on the tlo1 chassis??

shevchenko2000

01-11-2005, 08:14 AM

Can anyone confirm that Thunder Shot universal shaft can fit on TL01B?

SeerHawk

01-11-2005, 11:01 PM

Can anyone confirm that Thunder Shot universal shaft can fit on TL01B?

Yes it totally can, I have them on my Baja Champ on page 10 of this thread

cheechthechi

01-12-2005, 12:22 AM

How about the 1/8 scale tgx universals?

shevchenko2000

01-12-2005, 04:10 AM

I found that 1/8 TGX universal shaft is cheap than thunder shot universal shafts. I'm not sure TGX universal shaft can fit on TL01B.

kentetsu

01-12-2005, 06:13 PM

I heard that the B4 CVD's will fit on the TL01B... I would be interested also to know if people have found other alternatives that fit.

shevchenko2000

01-13-2005, 11:44 AM

Anyone who had TL01B with universal shafts? I like to know which universal shafts cound be fit on TL01B 100%.

ElectricThunder

01-13-2005, 05:12 PM

Hey Doomed... thanks for the info... I will have to look at getting some of those tires. The info about the Novak brushless system is pretty good too.. I know of someone who is running a Baja Champ with a brushless system... he is running a Kontronik Twist 47 and Shultz U Force 75 ESC... and apparently that goes like a rocket... Do you know how these two brushless systems would compare???
The kontronik/Schulze setup is a much more powerful setup (and has the ability to be run up to 12 cells on the ESC and the motor can handle 10 cells max). Much much faster than a novak, but much much pricier.

kentetsu

01-13-2005, 08:18 PM

I am really hanging to get a brushless system in to my tl01b, and I am considering the kontronik/shulze option... is there anything else that people recommend out there

Combatcm

01-13-2005, 09:06 PM

Get a BK warrior controller, a 7018, or a 9918. Along with a feigao "S" can motor it should be quite powerful for about 220 with the 7018 or 270 with a 9918, It will work good with the 7018, but you can eliminate any heat issues with the 9918.

kentetsu

01-14-2005, 06:09 AM

Thanks, where did you get your prices from??

Combatcm

01-14-2005, 08:58 AM

Most of my info comes from

www.starluckrc.com

www.rc-monster.com

ElectricThunder

01-14-2005, 04:18 PM

Kentetsu- If you wait a bit longer, starluck RC will have a 155 dollar MGM Compro brushless ESC that is 80 amps continuous and handles up to 12 cells, and is much easier to program then a warrior (pc link wise, bit difficult with radio, but i'd say it's well worth it for the price/specs). Combine that with a feigao 540 sized 7s motor and you'll have an absolute rocket. Head on over to the brushless motor forum for more info if you need it. Everyone over there is more than willing to help.:)

kentetsu

01-15-2005, 07:47 PM

Hi ElectricThunder... thanks for the tip... it might be a good idea to wait and checkout the MGM Compro brushless ESC...

metric69

01-16-2005, 01:43 PM

Is this a Baja king knock off? It looks like a TL-01B chassis

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...5931053935&rd=1

iam very sure it is because i have one, and yes they over heat and the ecs was no good, was no good after 10 mins, i replaces with a Duratrax IntelliSpeed and a Futaba Magnum-2pl work great.

Iam looking for hop up parts for it to get past alot of the plastic on it.I would also like to get the suspension set up better.It is realy stif right now and iam into climbing and rock busting. and info to what i should do would be great and through the process i will post pics as to what iam doing and would like info and tips to what i should be adding to make this a great rock buster.
Iam new to the hoibbie but is sounds like there is a lot of peeps here that know what they are talking about and everyone is real helpfull to us newbies.

Doomed

01-18-2005, 11:42 AM

Everyone over there is more than willing to help.:)

I think its the lack of info on the subject, not the willingness to help.

kentetsu

01-21-2005, 09:25 PM

Apart from the U-force 75 is anybody aware of any other ESC that can handle both brushed and brushless motors.

Combatcm

01-28-2005, 09:31 AM

The new LRP sphere ESC I think. But thats too far away I wouldn't consider it. Might as well get a normal BL ESC.

Last night I just slapped my lightened chassis together, put in my new gear set and reinstalled the super sport and put in a new S3004 servo. I am going to use TL01 body mounts and mount a nice car body on it and race 4wd dirt oval with it. Might as well now everything is snow, I can only race on asphalt.

microrcdude

02-13-2005, 10:20 PM

Time to bring back this thread! My friend is going to get one and race it with some buddies, i think he'll win, hes got mad talent.

kentetsu

02-14-2005, 07:17 AM

I love the TL01B... it is a great RC for bashing... only thing that is kinda bad is all the crap that gets into the chassis and especially small stones that jam the battery pack in.. but that said I still think it's ace and tough too..

InitialVelocity

02-16-2005, 08:00 PM

I just got my Baja King Today, as a four year owner of a TL-01, I cannot wait to get this running, my TL-01 was retired to the shelf aas I got better cars. I've got full ball bearings in it, a carbon prop shaft, the speed tunes gear set, wild dagger rear dog bones (I didnt really trust the plastic/metal ones for the rear), I'll either put a set of Tamiya Aluminum Shocks on it Or Duratrax Shocks, haven't quite decided. I'll let you know what electronics I end up putting in it.

microrcdude

02-16-2005, 08:15 PM

Sounds cool! And welcome to the forums pal!

InitialVelocity

02-16-2005, 08:21 PM

Thanks, I look forward to being a member here!

microrcdude

02-16-2005, 09:58 PM

Your welcomed with open arms.

InitialVelocity

02-17-2005, 05:52 PM

Here is my Current Progress

InitialVelocity

02-17-2005, 05:53 PM

InitialVelocity

02-17-2005, 05:55 PM

I went With Duratrax shocks with Tamiya Springs, ends, and retainers.

microrcdude

02-17-2005, 05:58 PM

Looking great IV!

InitialVelocity

02-19-2005, 10:19 PM

Heres my current progress. The Body is modeled after my TRF-415 Body.

http://performance-rc.net/BajaKingBody1.jpg

The 415:

http://performancerc.net/TRF415Mazda6.jpg

(Sorry the pic is so small!)

And a nice new motor!

http://performance-rc.net/BajaKingMotor.jpg

TRF Drive Hard

02-19-2005, 10:20 PM

Dude that looks cool... i like the blue shocks with that bod!

The Plopster

02-20-2005, 09:11 AM

Hey, can anyone give me some advice?

I have a Baja champ and so far I have worn out 2 counter gears in a very short space of time. Everything is fitted correctly and I'm using a 19t pinion gear, there's no grit in the gearbox and it's well greased. The motor is mounted as per instructions for the pinion gear used.

So I'm at a loss as to why the gear keeps wearing out.

Any ideas?

hanafuda

03-10-2005, 06:36 AM

Not been here for a while, but now that spring is on the way I am looking forward to getting back into RC.

Just started doing a total rehaul on my Baha King.

I am still looking to upgrade the motor and ESC though. Does anyone have any thoughts on the following combo?

Novak XRS Sport Reversible ESC
Trinity Speed Gem 2 Amber 17T Double

The ESC can handle motors down to 15T, but I figure that I might as well play safe.

Wonder if the Trinity SpeedGem Extreme 17T Double would be a better option?

Doomed

03-12-2005, 12:56 PM

Combatcm

03-24-2005, 01:21 PM

hanafuda

03-28-2005, 09:03 AM

Tamiya pinion gears wear out in about 4 hours of total running time. If you used it more than that the pinion should be very sharp. If it makes a horrible gearbox noise when going in reverse it has that problem. That's why tamiya spurs are always grey when you look at the gearbox after you run it.

I have run my Baha King for a lot more than that and don't think I have an issue.

If the Tamiya ones are so bad, can you recommend so good replacements?

Combatcm

03-28-2005, 10:18 AM

OK maybe a bunch more than that, but eventually it does. I ran a novak BL on it though, and the pajero see more strain becuase of how its run. RRP metric pinions are a good replacement. The teeth on my pajero pinions were half the size and really sharp. People on tamiyaclub claim they go through a few pinions before wearing the spurs.

Now that race season is almost here I almost have mine ready to go. I will stick the spec motor back in it and try with that. I put a one way in the rear, hopefully making off throttle and braking more stable, while making the car oversteer a bit while on.

Combatcm

03-28-2005, 12:32 PM

Here it is. Almost ready to race. All I need is the GPM motor heatsink, so then I can install the novak bl again then I'm done.

With the rear shocks in that position I can get full travel up and down. With up, the tire will travel above the bottom of the chassis and will not sacrifice any down travel.

Combatcm

03-28-2005, 12:40 PM

Another shot. And if you notice, the delphi indy car wing bolts right on.

Combatcm

03-29-2005, 08:43 PM

I bought another Baja king kit to finish off my custom car (See: Misc vehicles/custom RC cars topic)

When I thought about it, its really one heck of a deal to buy another kit. The tires will last a good race season maybe less. You get a new body and some spare parts. A spare gear set, arms, screws, motor, pinion.

I'm going to paint the body yellow (extra can I have lying around) and cut it just like Initiallyvelocity did.

Combatcm

03-31-2005, 11:36 AM

The new painted body.

sizzler

04-25-2005, 06:39 AM

Hi I'm new to this forum but I've been reading up avidly and a couple of weeks ago I bought a baja champ package from Ebay pretty cheaply. Since then I've upgraded it a little ... GPM shocks, Tamiya TZ super stock motor, race bearings and a ripspeed unlimited ESC. I got to say it's such a blast now. Unfortunately I've knackered the front of the chassis and cracked the front suspension arms...amateur eh? I was wondering if anyone knew of a way to get some stronger parts.

www.asiatees.com has some great stuff but I think it's mostly for the TL01 short arm chassis.

cheers..

mat250

04-25-2005, 07:55 AM

Hi Sizzler, Here is a link to a company that makes some after market suspension parts for the tl-01b.
http://www.r2-c2.com/

sizzler

04-25-2005, 08:13 AM

Hi Sizzler, Here is a link to a company that makes some after market suspension parts for the tl-01b.
http://www.r2-c2.com/

thanks

to be honest they've got some beautiful stuff there but it's kind of out of my price category! I've already spent more than twice what I paid for it to get it up to an acceptable standard!

Any recommendations on Universals and gearing pinions?

cheers

LordThrash

05-03-2005, 01:18 PM

I have a TL01b I have beat up pretty hard. It still runs great but the chasis now has elongated holes where the swing arm pins go. This causes the wheels to have lots of front/back motion. Has anybody ever drilled these out and glued in a brass sleeve or something like that?

Combatcm

05-04-2005, 12:45 AM

I would advise against using the lightened chassis for hard driving. I broke both the rear camber mounts last race. They broke half way in the first race and then I lost a cup joint. I continued the race in FWD, but was half as slow. The next race I decided to zip tie the pack on the steering servo and run it FWD through the race. It worked not as good as I though and the battery snapped off, I continued with the pack in the normal slot only to damage whatever tamiya had in its racing reputation, by placing dead last. It's oval next time for this tamiya.

I just finished putting on a new chassis from another baja king kit I bought a while ago. This will be my third chassis, and nothing else was ever replaced. I'm setting it up for oval.

Combatcm

05-12-2005, 11:00 PM

This is the final version on the B4 CVD mod. Check it out.

http://hstrial-cmorante.homestead.com/B4CVD.html

It's a trial page so it may go down in a week, but I will try to make it a permanent home for my cars.

mat250

05-13-2005, 08:48 AM

Thanks Combatcm, that is a very nice clean mod. Your page is well laid out and easy to follow. I will have to try it out this summer.
Thanks :)

cheechthechi

05-21-2005, 08:16 PM

Could you post the parts list for that mod again? The link doesnt work anymore.. thanks.

Combatcm

05-21-2005, 09:59 PM

Obviously you need a 1 set of CVD's and 4 bearings and 1 set of collers to do the front only. I have lot of money into my king. My newest mods are the full line of GPM parts including the alloy spur, alloy driveshaft and alloy C hub. Spur cause I stripped one, driveshaft cause the stock one weighs 30lbs and C hub because there is some play in it. Ball cups are next. Certain evader BX and ST turnbuckles work perfect. I will do that in the near future.

I asked GPM for the part number for the alloy spur gear. I put it into the RC mart search bar and it came up. For a long time I've been looking for them and though they were sold out everywhere and dicontinued.

http://www.rcmart.com/catalog/advanced_search_result.php?keywords=TL14234T

Combatcm

05-21-2005, 10:02 PM

New wing (http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LX2730&P=7)

microrcdude

05-22-2005, 01:39 PM

Dude, that AE wing looks right at home on there. Kinda narrow IMO, try the 7" wing next time.

cheechthechi

06-25-2005, 09:17 PM

I'm workin on a way to use a captured pin design (similar to the b4) to replace the hinge pins which hold the suspension arms on the tl01 b. I'll post pictures later.

Combatcm

06-26-2005, 09:13 AM

Tamiya has a pin kit for the TL01, http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXGJ54&P=7

I have it on mine.

cheechthechi

06-26-2005, 02:15 PM

True, I just wanted to try something different, plus the lhs didnt have them.

kentetsu

07-05-2005, 08:28 PM

Just finished rebuilding the Baja King and bashing with it... I recently picked up an RC10B4 and I am now also thinking about upgrading the Baja King to a 4wd buggy more suited to racing... not sure what is the best thing to do here. Does anybody race the Baja King or is it something really only for bashing... I have already put plenty of money into the Baja King, getting all the hop ups I can find and I am wondering whether it is worth spending more money on it or should I be looking for something else????

sizzler

07-06-2005, 05:18 AM

To be honest I spent another £100 on new shocks, stock motor, unlimited ESC quick charger and battery packs, and I managed to sell the lot on EBAY for £120. I got really frustrated with the poor battery times and the cost of new packs. Also the chassis was starting to get cracks and I broke the front arms again so I decided to go Nitro... That's a whole different story ... the amount of headaches I have with tuning is causing the same kind of stress as b4. I guess with this hobby it's never going to be an easy ride.

LordThrash

07-07-2005, 12:50 AM

So I got a Haiboxing type tl01b buggy which is pretty much identical to the standard baja king. Before you say thats not the same, I am now using a genuine Tamiya chasis and numerous other Tamiya stock and hop up parts. I have broken pretty much everything on it at least once. Its a fun little car even now, but I rarely can last 2 runs before I've broken something else.

Here is why. The suspension travel is very poor. The chasis is prone to dirt and sand. The gears are very soft and love getting the before mentioned sand in them. The motor is too buried to cool properly. The gearing is not low enough for low turn motor. Lastly the chasis is very brittle.

For the price its a great little buggy. Just don't do what I do with it. I have a little BMX course near me where I take my cars on weekends. My record jump so far is 14 feet with still landing perfectly. It was one of these big jumps that cracked the chasis.

In my oppinion, the Baja king is not worth the time to race or even hop up too far. Add some oil shocks and be done and you will have a nice RC buggy for bashing arround.

And for what its worth, I have found the ultimate basher electric RC offroader. The stock E-maxx with 14cells is freakling awsome! I have driven that off and into everything and it still hasn't broken anything. Before you go off the deepend on Gas, try one of these. you won't be dissapointed.

GTP Buggy

07-11-2005, 09:20 AM

Lordthrash, did you upgrade the motor on that TL01B? Keep the stock ESC/receiver?

LordThrash

07-11-2005, 12:03 PM

Lordthrash, did you upgrade the motor on that TL01B? Keep the stock ESC/receiver?
Good Question.

I started with the stock radio/ESC and that big ol' 550 motor 'till the motor started causing the ESC to thermal shutdown when I added the slightly bigger dirt hawg buggy tires. Then I tried a 19T Venom fireball motor and that would shutdown in on the second battery pack.

I swaped the stock ESC for a novak XRS sport and added a 15T Fireball all using the lowest gearing available and that would overheat in about 2 minutes. I actually melted the motor mount chasis part to the screws.

When I got the new chasis I droped back in the old 550 stock motor which worked great for about 4 runs until sand finally killed it. And it is unrebuildable.

The buggy now sits with the fireball 19t and its ok but still is overheating the motor like mad. I will keep the XRS Sport in there but I was thinking of getting a upgrade 550 motor like the S-600R Stock number: GPMG0715 and give that a try.

GTP Buggy

07-11-2005, 02:28 PM

Thanks for the info. I am a born again r/c enthusiast. I ended up buying one of those cars also for my 7yr old son. He really enjoys it. We do not jump it very much. So far it has been good quality. Nothing broke yet. It does have tons of gouges on the bottom from running upon curbs. Mostly street use and parking lot use.

I did add clear CVA MINI shocks to it already. They actually made a drastic improvement in the suspension travel. There is no way to make them travel further than I have them because of the axle to cup angle. :)

I noticed there seems to be two versions of the Haiboxing on the market. The one I bought for my son, has the white wheels, came with bearings installed. I do not think it is a full set, probably just on the wheels/axles.

I just had to get one so I could race him. The version I ended up with has the chrome wheels and plastic bushings. It has markings on a couple parts "Boli Toys" along with Haiboxing. The one I got is actually a crossbreed from 2 parts cars I bought, one the buggy, the other the street car. I had to use the street car body on the buggy chassis. I did get the COOL chrome buggy wheels though. One chassis had a crack near the rear a arm. I repaired it using a hot knife and some extra ABS shavings I keep around for repairing/customizing ABS plastic. It is strong as new. The only thing I have to get for it is a motor/pinion. I currently have about $35.00 into my crossbreed and some spare parts.

I did a little research on Boli toys. Couldn't find much on Boli locally(Americas), but did find the Asian site qd-race dot com that talks about them. Actually came in more favorable than Smartech r/c cars in a poll. I couldn't understand much since the forum was in Indonesian. What I could make out is basically hop-ups for the cars. One person mentioned they (boli/haiboxing) shared the patent with Tamiya.

Have you considered a Titan550 for the car? Will the motor you're looking at work? I noticed the description says it's a reverse motor.

LordThrash

07-12-2005, 01:11 AM

Have you considered a Titan550 for the car? Will the motor you're looking at work? I noticed the description says it's a reverse motor.

I believe the titan550 is a 14.4v motor so it would be pretty slow with a standard 7.2volt battery pack.

The motor I mentioned is able to run forward and reverse, while the standard 600 motor is an airplane type forward only. I still only guessing it will work.

FYI - I got the Haiboxing that had half real bushings and half plastic. I added full bearings.

GTP Buggy

07-12-2005, 09:52 AM

I guess it's a good thing I didn't order a Titan550 then. I thought it would still be fine because it is a 550 in general. I'd considered one of the "generic" 550's on ebay. The seller stated it is a faster motor. I decided to order a Tamiya sport 540 for starting off with.

Is the motor plate necessary? I do not have one. Could I just make one of cardboard? It seems that is what they are made of for this chassis. Do you think a steel plate would be better?

LordThrash

07-23-2005, 10:18 PM

To follow up on the idea of using a 19turn S-600R motor - dont! It a high RPM freak. It was faster top speed then a venom 15T 540 but overloaded in 2 minutes also. Damn you Tamiya for not being able to gear lower than 19tooth pinnion... I think I'm giving up on the old tl01b

SeerHawk

07-27-2005, 03:04 PM

Don't give up LordThrush! Get a TTR Motor Mount for the TL01 and you can gear down to 16T.

http://www.thundertechracing.com/motormnt.htm

I was using a Speed Gems 12T Double in my TL01b (w Tamiya Heat Sink Plate/ Heat Sink Fins) with the TTR Mount & 16T Pinion. No Overheating with Pro-Line Dirt Hawgs. Here is a pic of the TL01b Buggy w the 12T Double. (Note: Don't use these tires/rims ever just for show)

http://www.seertech.com/seerhawk/bajachamp/bajachamp_2.jpg

Or you can always go brushless. I am currently working on a Hacker C50 Brushless TL01B Truck, I got everything just gotta put it together.

microrcdude

07-28-2005, 12:48 PM

you got one awesome ride, but i dont think those front tires will do much

SeerHawk

07-28-2005, 03:18 PM

you got one awesome ride, but i dont think those front tires will do much

Hey Microrcdude,

Thanks, yea ribbed fronts on a 4WD - Useless. I wish I could find some team losi blue spec buggy pin fronts though. I use these tires/rims only for the shelf.. Usually this runs on Dirt Hawg Buggy fronts/rears on Kyosho Laser Dish rims (Same rims as pic)

kartrun

08-02-2005, 09:14 PM

What body is that in the pic? Duratrax?

microrcdude

08-04-2005, 08:51 PM

stock B4 RTR body i think.

abj03

08-22-2005, 12:57 AM

Hi

The plastic holder that holds the straw for the aerial onto the chassis keeps popping off everytime something happens to the car, e.g. hard landing, impact, flip etc...

Does anyone else have this problem, and any ideas on how to resolve it?

Combatcm

08-22-2005, 02:15 PM

I do. I used a small washer behind it and a washer screw in front of it.

woodymaxx

08-23-2005, 01:15 PM

Hello I have a Baja Champ and I recently finally got some aluminum uprights for the car and now need some adjustable tie rods. Which ones fit this car? and also which novak system have people been using for the tl-o1b's? The super stock or the super sport? or anything else? thanks

aquilaprime

09-01-2005, 01:28 PM

Greetings, all.

was really glad to find this forum, I hope someone still reads it. I started buying tamiya cars as far back as '85. I took a break from R/C for several years, but I am going to introduce the hobby I loved so much as a teen to my 10 yr. old. I think that we will pick up a couple of TL01B based cars because it seems like a diverse chassis. We should be able to build a rally car, street car or truck with minor mods to suit our mood(s). The question I have is: Is there any difference between the Baja Champ or Baja King? does one come with any extras the other doen't? as far as I can tell, they are identical, but one seems to always be much cheaper than the other online. Any recommendations would be appreciated - even of you think another versatile TL01 kit that would be better (say one that already comes with oil shocks, etc.)

A.P. Out.

P.S. I may repost this thread to other T chassis threads, so if you see it over and oner again, I apologize.

microrcdude

09-01-2005, 03:49 PM

the tl01b can be converted to the TL01 with minor mods, and the car s pretty much bombproof

alabamarcguy

09-07-2005, 09:41 AM

Is There Anywhere I Can Buy A New Baja Champ Body? Thx For Any Info

microrcdude

09-07-2005, 06:41 PM

Id call tamiya, you can get one from them, but if they dont, im sure www.rcmart.com would have it

alabamarcguy

09-07-2005, 09:20 PM

the only problem is not enough us distributors for the tamiya buggys but i like my buggy i have now

microrcdude

09-07-2005, 11:37 PM

Yeah, distributers arent that well kept up now, and theres one awsome one, but they only have the on-road stuff.

boogyloop

09-11-2005, 08:55 PM

Oh shoot i posted in the wrong forum (Tl01 on-road and not this one the TL01B)!!
Anyway... I'm on the look out for some uni shafts to fit onto my baja champ. i Know that the Tunbershot one's fit but thay seem to be hard to come by, so what other uni shafts could i fit? Also what front gears could i go for? I am thinking of putting a manta ball diff in there but what about a one way unit is there one that'll fit? One last thing i hear a rummer that you can pos bevel the gears some how but A. i dont know what for or why and B. what gears can you do this too?
If anyone can answer any of this then e-mail me please as i'm so close to finishing up my baja champ and will post pic's only when it's finished

pirzol

10-20-2005, 04:44 PM

Hi

Small tuning TL-01B (CrossTiger / Bonzer) , add
- alloy arms
- alloy knuckle arms set
- cooling motor
- alloy shock absorber T-Maxa 11 cm ,

http://www.******.net/view_single.php?medid=66714 - shock absorber 11cm
http://www.******.net/view_single.php?medid=66713
http://www.******.net/view_single.php?medid=66712 -clearance > 5,5cm
http://www.******.net/view_single.php?medid=66709
http://www.******.net/view_single.php?medid=62231

regards
Peter
_________________
Bonzer Tiger TL-01B 4WD
prototyp alu osłony:
amortyzatory olejowe 11cm
alu tuning
http://www.******.net/member/Pirzol

GTP Buggy

10-20-2005, 09:29 PM

I'd like to see the pics of your truck. What do you replace the ****** with in your links?

piethoofd

10-21-2005, 08:06 AM

prolly is a word in the "bad word" list and gets filtered out :(

GTP Buggy

10-21-2005, 11:34 AM

Nah, I think it does that with all links posted.

pirzol

10-21-2005, 04:03 PM

Nah, I think it does that with all links posted.

please try
http://www. r c p i c s.net/member/Pirzol - delete spaces in link

P

Jeckler

12-05-2005, 12:34 PM

boogyloop

12-05-2005, 01:55 PM

What should I do......

Get a Baja Champ/King and add a Wild Dagger body and wheels & tires, or get one of the Haiboxing/HBX Cross Tiger/Bonzer's?
I like the look of the latter, but am wondering about the quality. I like the Wild Dagger body more than the Twin Detonator as well.
I could just get a WD/TD, but am not liking the twin motor chassis very much, simply because upgrading two motors would cost more, as well as the need for a stronger ESC to run them.

Jeckler, i'd stay well away from the HBX the quality is just plane nasty! on the plus side though you do get alot for your money but you'll spend more on fixing it. your best bet is prob wild dagger,a bit cheaper then then the detonater. loads of hop-ups/parts for both cars so not to shabby. as for ESC look at maybe the one's in the e-maxx if i remember right thay were novaks (well the only one i've seen had a novak ESC in it) and there good to go.

GTP Buggy

12-05-2005, 02:39 PM

Do what your pocket book will allow. There is nothing wrong with the build quality of the HBX products, period. They are every bit as strong and precise as the "Tamiya". They are identical and allow for "Tamiya" upgrades. You'd definitely get more bang for the buck when purchasing the HBX, including the esc/rx/tx.

I hear of more TL01B originals breaking than I do the HBX. Guess that is because there is not a dedicated forum for the HBX. :p

LordThrash

12-05-2005, 08:58 PM

Jeckler

12-06-2005, 11:33 PM

Well, I won this (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6018013149) this afternoon. We'll see what it looks like when it gets here.

Boostin_69

12-07-2005, 02:17 AM

Kool!!
looks pretty good

r u gonna bash or race it?

Jeckler

12-07-2005, 12:12 PM

Just for bashing around the yard and street. I figure I can let my kids drive it as well. My 6yo has a Wid Willy 2, but everytime she lets her 3yo sister drive it, she wheelies it into the side of the house or some other obstacle (curbs, cars, ankles). :) Lack of throttle control, hehe.
I'm not too worried, $98 shipped RTR is a pretty good deal.

GTP Buggy

12-07-2005, 04:18 PM

I bought the buggy version for my 7 year old. It is fast enough for him to lose control and run it into the curb (and ankles) several times. It still works great. It needs new tires soon though.

Jeckler

12-13-2005, 07:06 PM

It arrived. My first impression in the 15 minutes I took taking it out of the box and snapping a few pics is that it seems like a decent truck.

Looks like I just got it from Toys-R-Us
http://www.madebyjenn.com/andy/rc/hbx/hbx-1.jpg

Everything packed neatly. It even came with AA's for the radio
http://www.madebyjenn.com/andy/rc/hbx/hbx-2.jpg

Here's a few oddities. Translating Chinese to Engrish
http://www.madebyjenn.com/andy/rc/hbx/hbx-odd.jpg
http://www.madebyjenn.com/andy/rc/hbx/hbx-odd2.jpg
http://www.madebyjenn.com/andy/rc/hbx/hbx-odd3.jpg
And on the other side, by the trims, it says "Fine tuRning"

The motor has a heatsink
http://www.madebyjenn.com/andy/rc/hbx/hbx-motor.jpg

Thick metal dogbones, turnbuckles and metal drive shaft. Does the Tamiya TL-01 have this stuff?
http://www.madebyjenn.com/andy/rc/hbx/hbx-turn.jpg
http://www.madebyjenn.com/andy/rc/hbx/hbx-shaft.jpg

The radio. Features servo reversing on both channels.
http://www.madebyjenn.com/andy/rc/hbx/hbx-radio.jpg

All-in-one receiver and ESC
http://www.madebyjenn.com/andy/rc/hbx/hbx-rx-esc.jpg

Even came with a small tool bag. That wrench looks familiar.
http://www.madebyjenn.com/andy/rc/hbx/hbx-tools.jpg

So the battery just got done charging. My Intellipeak charged it to 1700mah on the first pass. It's an 1800mah battery. Off to play!

Jeckler

12-13-2005, 07:22 PM

Ok, 2nd impression. I ran it inside for a little bit. The included battery doesn't seem to have a whole lot of punch, but it looks like it can get this thing moving fairly quickly. I use Power Poles on all my stuff, so won't know how it does on a "good" battery for a few days. It does do wheelies after backing up though.
The radio also features steering dual rates. Though to me it's more like EPA.
The ESC has a double pump reverse. The brakes are kinda weak. Definately doesn't lock up the tires.
The axles have rubber sealed bearings.
The only thing it's missing are oil shocks.

GTP Buggy

12-14-2005, 09:19 AM

I am glad you are enjoying so far. Funny you mention the translation. With the buggy I bought, I was reading over the assembly instructions. There is a great error on how to assemble the tires. Yours may be the same. Something about F...

The first upgrade I did to mine was the Tamiya CVA Shocks. I really like the chrome wheels your truck came with. The first buggy I got had white wheels. The second chrome.

joostin421

12-14-2005, 10:14 AM

tamiya sells molds of the parts to the taiwanese then they relable/rebadge right?

you should be able to upgrade with 90% tamiya or other aftermarket parts.

justin

Jeckler

12-14-2005, 11:32 AM

GTP, I'll have to check when I get home. The only thing I looked in the manual for last night was to see if I had to do anything to setup the ESC.
Joostin, I sent an email to TamiyaUSA to see if they can give me any info about their relationship (if any) with HBX. I wouldn't be surprised if they tell me it's an unauthorized copy though.

GTP Buggy

12-14-2005, 01:47 PM

I am interested to know the response to the email you sent. I don't think someone could get away with an exact rebadged "knockoff" here in the states legally. It seems they would have to be authorized some way. Those HBX have been on the market for a year or so I believe, minimum. Tamiya will still make money on upgrades and parts that do break. They are not losing, IMO.

Oh Yeah, that radio it comes with looks to be like the Kyosho Perfex.

joostin421

12-14-2005, 02:34 PM

they do not come from a U.S. distributer... per say... if they are purchased from Ebay they are coming from Europe or Taiwan, and i dont think they have the ability to have the restrictions but i dont know :confused:

just like this, looks 90% TL01 to me: http://cgi.ebay.com/Radio-Remote-Control-Cars-1-10-4WD-Ford-Focus-RC-Car_W0QQitemZ6021126475QQcategoryZ19168QQrdZ1QQcmd ZViewItem

justin

Jeckler

12-14-2005, 03:20 PM

The reply I got from Tamiya USA was that they had never heard of HBX, and it was most likely an "unauthorized" copy. Their quotes, not mine.
I tried sending an inquiry to Tamiya Inc, but the page crashed, so I don't know if it actually got sent or not.
Oh well, still a cool truck, and just what I was looking for.

GTP Buggy

12-14-2005, 03:44 PM

Joostin, The first one I bought certainly came from a US distributor in California. I had it in less than a week. Even still, when people knock off Oakleys or high dollar purses for example, they get pursued quickly on Ebay and shut down by the real manufacturer. You do not see the fakes on Ebay like you used to. Especially not in the volume these cars have been selling. I guess that's still not to say they aren't knock offs. :)

Jeckler, It's funny they say they've never heard of them. I've seen posts on their own forum asking/talking about the cars. Surely they are more in touch with their customer base than that. If it were my business, and someone knocked off something I produced, they would be pursued quickly. Anywhichway, I am happy with my car(s) and Tamiya will still benefit from me. :)

Jeckler

12-14-2005, 07:27 PM

Mine came from Cali too, probably the same seller, Grand Hobby.

I looked for the F...., but mine isn't a real assembly manual. It's only about 8 pages long, and 3 of those are parts lists and exploded diagram.

Tamiya has their own forums?

GTP Buggy

12-15-2005, 02:44 PM

Yeah, My first one came from there. I'd like to have a truck too, one day. The forum was Tami...club.com (hope that's <<< okay?). I guess officially it may not be their own site after considering that.

Jeckler

12-15-2005, 04:13 PM

Nope, TC is a private club, based in the UK. I'm a member there. I asked about the HBX cars over there too. I got the impression it wasn't a welcome discussion. :)
I love Tamiya. I own...... 4 of their cars, a TXT-1, Wild Willy 2, '67 Beetle and my first car ever, the Subaru Brat.
Too bad Tamiya themselves didn't release something like the Bonzer. I realize they have the Wild Dagger/Twin Detonator, but I like the simplicity of one motor. They have a couple trucks that LOOK like the Bonzer, but they're based on the Bigfoot Extreme chassis, so only 2WD.

GTP Buggy

12-15-2005, 04:58 PM

I got the impression it wasn't a welcome discussion. :)

Ya know, That's totally understandable. Everyone has their loyalties. I'd prefer to buy Tamiya myself. I bought the buggy without knowing anything about current radio control vehicles, or it even being a knockoff. I bought this car just to get my son into the hobby. It looked decent and has proven itself so far. I have learned alot since then.

OMG! this thread has been hijacked by the Knockoff TL01B's! :eek: :p
At least it's still alive.

Actually, much respect to everyone for not flaming on these cars. :)

I thought Tamiya had a 2wd "wild dagger". Guess I was wrong.

When I was young my friends had Tamiya R/C cars. They couldn't Touch my Tyco Turbo Hopper though. :p

Jeckler

12-23-2005, 02:21 PM

Well, since noone else is posting, the clone's will just take over....
Not much new, except one somewhat significant event. I changed the battery plug over the Power Poles last week. Install was flawless, it was probably the best job I've done, no solder on the spoons, they clicked right into the housing, etc. I even plugged it into the truck to make sure it worked. Went fine, until I plugged it into the Intellipeak. The DTX pulse chargers cause the battery to buzz while they're being charged. Well, even on a slow charge, these were making alot of noise. I didn't have time to fully realize what was going on until I heard *snap* *crackle* and *pop* coming from the other end of the battery. IT WAS MELTING! This all took place in the span of no more than 6 seconds. I very quickly unplugged it and walked away. After I figured it wasn't going to blow up, I went to survery the damage. The thin metal "bar" at the end of the battery was melted in 2. I hooked up my DVM, and was very surprised to see 1.3+v. I proceeded to take the shrink off and inspect it. The pictures should tell most of the story. Basically, there was a short near the connector end, which burned through the cardboard and shorted out the cells. I don't think I got it that hot while I was soldering, but maybe it was marginal to begin with. At least the powerpoles are re-usable.
http://www.madebyjenn.com/andy/rc/hbx/batt1.jpg
http://www.madebyjenn.com/andy/rc/hbx/batt2.jpg

The only other thing I've had happen is I wore the spikes off the tires. :)
http://www.madebyjenn.com/andy/rc/hbx/worn.jpg

GTP Buggy

12-24-2005, 10:34 AM

Good thing no one was hurt. That's one thing that concerns me is the charging of the batteries. I hear stories similiar to this from time to time. I keep a pretty good eye on them. I haven't built my own yet, though.

woodymaxx

12-24-2005, 11:35 PM

I need some adjustable tie rods for my baja champ. does anyone know what would fit on the car? thanks

Combatcm

12-25-2005, 05:28 AM

http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXGJ53&P=ML

The TL-01 set along with the AE turnbuckles should do nicely.

http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXSF93&P=7

http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LX2543&P=7

woodymaxx

12-26-2005, 01:01 AM

Alright! thanks a lot!

Phil916

12-28-2005, 07:42 AM

[QUOTE=Jeckler]Well, since noone else is posting, the clone's will just take over....
Not much new, except one somewhat significant event. I changed the battery plug over the Power Poles last week. ...
I didn't have time to fully realize what was going on until I heard *snap* *crackle* and *pop* coming from the other end of the battery. IT WAS MELTING! ....

The only other thing I've had happen is I wore the spikes off the tires. :)
...
[QUOTE]

Hello from France,

Sorry to hear about your battery failure, i use 30Amp anderson PP everywhere (and 175AMP/350AMP), as we use commuters electric "real" cars and scooter too :D )
very good connectors.

I purchase the TL01B based truck for my son (9 years old) and he is very happy with it despite it's snowing actually so Cross tiger has to stay at home...

it's the same as Jeckler but blue color, without AAA batteries though :mad:
The shock are going to be changed fast as they are just springs...

I saw the T-Max 11 cm alloy shock absorber MOD by Pirzol and i'm wondering if such part (tamiya DF02 10cm) will work, what do you think please ?

http://cgi.ebay.com/GPM-Alloy-Rear-Damper-100mm-Tamiya-DF-02-Chassis-RD_W0QQitemZ6025069978QQcategoryZ44022QQcmdZViewIt em

I was thinking ordering from same seller this intellect 3800 NIMH stick:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6024226306&ssPageName=ADME:B:WNA:US:12

because on hilly terrain this truck eat his 1800mah nicad genuine pack fast :eek:

rear speed command is about 1s delayed but work ok.
I notice a real problem imho:
As pack is emptying receiver is getting mad, battery is not fully empty more near 10-15% SOC, which is not good with nicad.
I should try a separate battery receiver MOD too...

No problem with motor heating but i will put adhesive artic silver compound because heatsink is not firmly fixed (take itself away few times so i dismount it waiting for artic silver)

Philippe,
from France

fabolousRC

01-01-2006, 07:30 AM

Well, since noone else is posting, the clone's will just take over....
Not much new, except one somewhat significant event. I changed the battery plug over the Power Poles last week. ...
I didn't have time to fully realize what was going on until I heard *snap* *crackle* and *pop* coming from the other end of the battery. IT WAS MELTING! ....

The only other thing I've had happen is I wore the spikes off the tires. :)
...

Hello from France,

Sorry to hear about your battery failure, i use 30Amp anderson PP everywhere (and 175AMP/350AMP), as we use commuters electric "real" cars and scooter too :D )
very good connectors.

I purchase the TL01B based truck for my son (9 years old) and he is very happy with it despite it's snowing actually so Cross tiger has to stay at home...

it's the same as Jeckler but blue color, without AAA batteries though :mad:
The shock are going to be changed fast as they are just springs...

I saw the T-Max 11 cm alloy shock absorber MOD by Pirzol and i'm wondering if such part (tamiya DF02 10cm) will work, what do you think please ?

http://cgi.ebay.com/GPM-Alloy-Rear-Damper-100mm-Tamiya-DF-02-Chassis-RD_W0QQitemZ6025069978QQcategoryZ44022QQcmdZViewIt em

I was thinking ordering from same seller this intellect 3800 NIMH stick:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6024226306&ssPageName=ADME:B:WNA:US:12

because on hilly terrain this truck eat his 1800mah nicad genuine pack fast :eek:

rear speed command is about 1s delayed but work ok.
I notice a real problem imho:
As pack is emptying receiver is getting mad, battery is not fully empty more near 10-15% SOC, which is not good with nicad.
I should try a separate battery receiver MOD too...

No problem with motor heating but i will put adhesive artic silver compound because heatsink is not firmly fixed (take itself away few times so i dismount it waiting for artic silver)

Philippe,
from France

Hey Philippe,

You might want to change your Speed Control with the Electronic ones (ESC for short). You can get Mtroniks which isn't that bad but at least it is waterproof (if your son like to play in the mud or rain for instance). The one second delay is designed to protect the gearbox from breaking from excessive counter force such as going into reverse while running forward in full/top speed.

Make sure the truck is ball raced (24 pieces of 5x11x3mm). It makes the truck more efficient with the extra rolling speed and extra run time. In addition, you might want to gear it low meaning if you have 19T motor pinion right now you want to replace it with 17T (TL01 has three pinion selections only 17T, 19T (stock) and 21T) for more torque and acceleration. There is an optional speed gear as well which reduces the overal final ratio but IMHO it is not design for trucks nor buggies.

There are many Hopups that you can get for your son's truck such as the adjustable turnbuckles and adjustable upper arms; lightweight chassis (it is really LIGHT! It improves your truck's running time as well; less weight to carry; lowers the truck center gravity); Carbon gear shafts and Carbon main shaft; Integy/GPM makes a universal drive shaft which replaces the dog bones with CVD type shaft (extra effeciency) and you might want to replace the stock servo saver with the kimborough ones because they are more durable compared to the stock ones.

I hope that helps!

Phil916

01-01-2006, 07:42 AM

Sure it help, thanks for the great advise.
It has ball bearing everywhere, seems perfect to learn with fun !
Just waiting for electronic to die before upgrading.
Shock is he most important actually because it make big jump and with this poor springs shock chassis must suffer a lot as road handling.
Thank to you now i know why there is 17 . 19 . 21 indication on the motor fixation :D

Philippe

Jeckler

01-01-2006, 11:05 AM

In addition, you might want to gear it low meaning if you have 19T motor pinion right now you want to replace it with 17T (TL01 has three pinion selections only 17T, 19T (stock) and 21T)

Thank to you now i know why there is 17 . 19 . 21 indication on the motor fixation

Strange. I just checked mine, and it has 19, 21 and 23. More correctly, from left to right on the bottom holes, it says "21 19 23" with the screws currently in the middle, 19 holes. I do think it's a little overgeared, but wasn't sure if I could go lower.

http://www.madebyjenn.com/andy/rc/hbx/21-19-23.jpg

Phil916

01-01-2006, 12:22 PM

You are right !
my mistake :confused:

Ziddan Sr.

01-02-2006, 12:11 AM

Hi,
I just convert one of my TL-01 into TL-01B,
could you pls in this forum advise me whether TL-01 One-Way Front diff (#53200) strong enough if using these Baja King buggy tires?

Jeckler

01-09-2006, 09:42 PM

Jeckler

01-09-2006, 09:44 PM

Hi,
I just convert one of my TL-01 into TL-01B,
could you pls in this forum advise me whether TL-01 One-Way Front diff (#53200) strong enough if using these Baja King buggy tires?

Only one way (no pun intended) to find out. :)

Jeckler

01-12-2006, 08:57 PM

I may have found a way to gear a Bonzer down, but have no real way to test it.

I was browsing eBay and saw adjustable motor mounts for a Clodbuster. If the motor has enough room to move towards the spur, this should work, as long as the motor has a long enough shaft for the pinion to still mesh, since the adjustable mount pushes it out a little bit. I'm hoping there's enough room to go down about 5 teeth.

I just looked at mine, and there's not alot of room in there, but if it can take up to a 23, why not down to a 14/15? It looks evenly set in the hole right now.
Any comments?

fabolousRC

01-14-2006, 10:45 PM

Strange. I just checked mine, and it has 19, 21 and 23. More correctly, from left to right on the bottom holes, it says "21 19 23" with the screws currently in the middle, 19 holes. I do think it's a little overgeared, but wasn't sure if I could go lower.

http://www.madebyjenn.com/andy/rc/hbx/21-19-23.jpg

Whoops...you are correct. I didn't mean to put six teeth discount on the preset pinion selections!!! :D :D :D

fabolousRC

01-14-2006, 10:51 PM

I've come to the conclusion that this chassis is not well suited for use with tall tires. There's simply no way to gear it down far enough.
Tonight I took a freshly cleaned Orion Core Stock motor with about 8 runs on it, put it in the Bonzer and probably destroyed it. I'll say this, once it got moving, it was darn quick, but after about 2 minutes I drove it past me and noticed the smell. I put it on the bench and the motor was smoking. I removed it from the chassis (so it wouldn't melt) and left it to cool. It still turns, but I wonder what damage I did.
Is there anyone that makes either an aftermarket chassis with an adjustable motor mount, or even gears? Like the opposite of the speed tuned set?

That's why they created that speed tuned kit. Tamiya knew the stock gears are too tall for anything but stock motors so they created the speed tuned kit. If you read the manual on the gear kit, if I'm not mistaken, it drops about 1.00 lower compared to stock. I don't remember the exact numbers so you got to buy it in order to know (I threw mine away long time ago).

There was one company, I do not remember their name, who used to make a twin plate chassis for TL-01/Twin Dagger. I forgot how it works but I'm sure some people on this board knows what I'm talking about and can explain to you better.

EDIT: I might mistakenly misread your question. Opposite of Speed Tuned? Doubt it. Then again, I have had installed hotter motor than Roar Stock on my TL01 with a 2.0 wheels and tires (not quite monster 2.2) and I haven't had any smokin' problem. The motor does run hotter if I ran 23T with Speed tuned but gearing it down helps a bit. Also, the way the heatsink design on the bonzer is wrong so you might want to get a longitudinal heatsink instead of stock horizontal ones.

SeerHawk

01-20-2006, 09:12 PM

Since this forum seems to have some more input...

Well SeerHawk, I tried to track down a thunder racing motor mount but I got an email back from Darren Grillo, Pres. Thunder Tech Racing saying that product is not available.

I'm still looking for a way to gear down the TL01B to keep my motors overheating. 19-pinion is just too high for a low turn motor. Any body else have an Idea?

[QUOTE=SeerHawk]Don't give up LordThrush! Get a TTR Motor Mount for the TL01 and you can gear down to 16T.

http://www.thundertechracing.com/motormnt.htm

Hey LordThrush,

Sorry for the super late reply.. Yea you can use the adjustable clodbuster motor mounts that they sell at TTR or you can go to RC4WD.COM and get their version of the Clod Adjustable Motor Mounts.. I am using them to make my TL01 use a 16T pinion. That is the lowest I have been able to go. That and don't run any tires with a profile larger then a Pro-Line Dirt Hawg and its fine!

miniGranis

01-21-2006, 03:21 PM

Can someone explain for a newbie how to lock the rear diff on the HBX Bonzer ?

LordThrash

01-28-2006, 02:35 AM

Hi SeerHawk,
I just ordered the RC4WD.COM mounts. Thanks for the tip. I'll let you know how it turns out.

Hey LordThrush,

Sorry for the super late reply.. Yea you can use the adjustable clodbuster motor mounts that they sell at TTR or you can go to RC4WD.COM and get their version of the Clod Adjustable Motor Mounts.. I am using them to make my TL01 use a 16T pinion. That is the lowest I have been able to go. That and don't run any tires with a profile larger then a Pro-Line Dirt Hawg and its fine!

Rtsbasic

02-27-2006, 07:28 AM

Just got my TL01B up and running again, its good fun, but has massive understeer problems. Maybe I'm just use to RWD trucks, but it feels a bit strange to drive. Any advice? Its setup using 1 degree toe in each side, stock camber linkss, AE TC3 shocks with black springs, no.2 pistons and 45wt oil, and uses a Mtroniks brushless system with a Bluebird 621MG servo.

Combatcm

02-27-2006, 10:51 AM

The toe ins will create understeer, try them on opposite sides so its 1 degree out.

Rtsbasic

02-27-2006, 12:28 PM

Hmm, every time I've tried toe out on a car before, its made it very unstable, espically at high speeds. I'll give it a go anyway and see what happens.

woodymaxx

04-25-2006, 02:52 PM

Combatcm

04-25-2006, 04:01 PM

Yeah I ran a novak SS in mine for a while. It topped out 38mph geared lowest. Stripped 1 spur in the entire 2 years it was running. Not a bad setup for it. If you don't drive in really rocky or sandy places the battery won't get cut up. I beat all my batteries pretty bad with it.

woodymaxx

04-25-2006, 07:54 PM

When you say navak SS do you mean super stock, or super sport? And it toped out at 38mph with the 19 tooth gear? And what do you mean about your batterys getting cut up? thanks

excalijacko

05-15-2006, 07:19 PM

Just wondering if anyone still reads this thread? I got one of those HBX Cross tiger truck off Ebay and i really like it! Like they say baja champ chassis, Wild Dagger body and blackfoot tyres, with all hop-up options coming straight from tamiya. I had a Tamiya Dirt Thrasher b4 it and had a lot of fun with that also with a few little mods ball bearings modified motor with skyline gearing. The only thing i didn't like was that pissy little driveshaft! :mad:

Thats why i like this HBX 1 cause its actually alot better shaft. Does anyone know what motor/esc hop up i could put in it? Its got those big blackfoot tyres on too so does that limit what motors u can use so they don't overheat? I have 3 different battery packs i put through it and it never seems to overheat/stall the stock motor or ESC.

possent

05-25-2006, 09:44 AM

Hello I have read on here that some people where putting brushless systems in these cars. How well is the Novak Super Stock Brushless Motor System? I think I read that the brushless motor makes the car way faster? 40mph? or was that crap? anyways is this a good setup vs the traditional motor and speed control? thanks
i usually run my baja champ with the following brushless setup:
Mtroniks Pro ESC
Feigao 380c 9T
lipo 4100mah 3s 11.1v (modified battery tray)
16t pinion (with adjustable motor mount)
alu spur gear
many other hopups

Speed? i don't know, but i'm the fastest car at my local track, a lot faster than all nitro.

Problems? Bad landings!

Jayboy

06-01-2006, 03:32 PM

just wanted to bump this thread as i think its awesome......

as for me...i have just signed up...Hi from England!

Anyway, i have a Baja Champ and i was thinking about upgrading the standard plastic shocks...but with what?

Oh yeah, 1 more question...are the CVA shocks plastic?

Jayboy

06-01-2006, 03:44 PM

please guys...HELP!....

pirzol

06-01-2006, 03:50 PM

Hi

look at:
http://pirzol.dyndns.info

regards
P

Jayboy

06-01-2006, 04:01 PM

hmmmm...whats that all about?

pirzol

06-01-2006, 04:06 PM

sorry, my mistake.
P

Jayboy

06-01-2006, 04:46 PM

help a child in need...please...before the weekend.

bakabaka

06-02-2006, 01:22 AM

Hi Jayboy,

Looking at Tamiya's website, they list TA03 aluminum dampers (part number 53280) as potential hop-ups for the Baja Champ. Presumably this means standard Tamiya touring car dampers should be fine, try taking the buggy to a hobby shop and asking them to look at it before buying one if you can though.

CVA dampers are plastic, but if you get most any oil filled dampers they'll work better than friction dampers. I personally like Aluminum dampers better, since they seem smoother. Hope this helps.

Have fun! :)

Jayboy

06-02-2006, 05:17 PM

thanks alot mate :)
that really helps!

diggernz

06-05-2006, 07:33 AM

Hi

look at:
http://pirzol.dyndns.info

regards
P
Heck mate thats awsome, great site you've started, cool mods, who would have thought a Bonzer cross tiger could look so good.
I have made my own shock tower braces as they broke after a session at the skate park, not recommended. but very good fun.
This is a weak point on this model, fix this and the weak steering sevos that cant handle the size of the wheels, they strip first hit, and this truck is great fun. Certain parts are worse , like the front turn buckles, but TA02 and dirt thrasher ones and the like fit. Dog bones are very strong, parts are cheap. wheels look great.Tyres are cheap. Lots of adjustability. Its lucky dip with the motors tho.
Great first RC truck with all Tamiya stuff fitting. So its a real pleasure learning about what Tamiya stuff does fit.
Not a serious racer tho.
I have used the CPR unit in my TL01 touring car with RS540 motors a Duratrax proton 20t a super stock tamiya tz 23t and it never ran hot in the touring car once. Smaller wheels tho. Good CPR for a buggy.
MOST IMPORTANT, you must protect the CPR unit from water damage. I used electrical tape on mine and cut out spaces for the heat sink Before I did this I killed it twice driving through some puddles but turned it off straight away and managed to dry the CPR out after removing the curcuit board from its case and drying with a hair dryer.

Jayboy

06-06-2006, 03:38 PM

hi guys,
just thought i would let you know about my car...its nothing special but its great fun!

Baja Champ with full metal bearings, GT tuned motor, ESC, Acoms servo, Acoms radio, 3300mAh batteryx2, Carson racing wheels/tyres...and im soon gonna get some oil filled shocks. I havent had it for long and Im only 15 so i cant really spend a lot of money on it although all that above equals about £100 worth (or about $180) ...but im happy with it (its flippin' fast too!)

What do ya think?

Jayboy

06-14-2006, 02:41 PM

...and got a 21t pinion gear and aluminium clamp hexes...

kodoi81

06-15-2006, 08:58 PM

Hi all..

I just got my hand on the baja king..just love to bashing with it..but i would like to make it more interesting..i want make a truggy out of it..so i hope i will get a feed back from you guys to help me to make this modified..i think i want change the wheels & tyres to HPI MT..will it fit..do i need a wheel extension for it..i also want to change the stock arm to the aluminium arm to make my baja king stronger for hard bashing..can you guys give me some potential hop up..do i need to change the arm that a bit longer than the stock to make a truggy..please note that i'm from malaysia and the part that you guys mention in this thread i can't find it here..please help me to make my dream come true.. :D

thanks for viewing..

rowdy

07-27-2006, 07:34 AM

I was recently thinking about buying a Baga King and, like you, converting it to a truck. I was advised against this since the TL01 cant be geared down much and by increasing tyre diameter your motor will probably fry. Any opinions?

I have a question for owners of the HBX Bronzer/Cross Tiger. What is the gear ratio on this truck? Is it the same as the Tamiya TL01b?

Thanks

possent

07-27-2006, 08:50 AM

i was a tl01b user, converted in a truck.
i ran a 12t pinion using an adapter plate and a little modification of the chassis.

Jayboy

08-03-2006, 11:05 AM

i just got a chevy silverado body for my baja champ now...should look great with it on!

woodymaxx

09-26-2006, 12:33 PM

Hello I know I saw on this forum a long time ago that some people found some cvd's to run on the baja champ. what where they? thanks

Jayboy

09-29-2006, 03:36 PM

i think they were from the Tamiya thundershot. but apparently they have been discontinued.
i bet you could find some on ebay though.

woodymaxx

09-29-2006, 08:28 PM

well i have the brushless super sport in mine and I need something that will hold up to all the power.

Jayboy

10-02-2006, 11:36 AM

actually , i dont think they were cvd's. They were reinforced steel dogbones (what i have on my baja champ now), without the crappy plastic bits that the stock dogbones have.
They work well in my car with a 15 turn motor and proline dirt hawg tires!

diggernz

10-02-2006, 07:01 PM

they HBX dogbones are solid steel and would fit. They are really beefy with a big fat piece in the middle. Cheap too. One of the many good parts on these trucks, guess they needed them since it has big tyres to turn and a 550/560 motor.

woodymaxx

10-02-2006, 09:32 PM

What are the links to these good dog bones? I can't find them :(

Combatcm

10-02-2006, 10:07 PM

Rising storm CVD's will work

http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXGJ58&P=7

These are the full steel shafts

woodymaxx

10-03-2006, 12:17 PM

Alright cool thanks I will be sure to pick those up. you know how you found these hardened universals.... http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXGH71&P=M well do they make hardened axle universals?

Jayboy

10-03-2006, 01:13 PM

Rising storm CVD's will work

http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXGJ58&P=7

These are the full steel shafts

yep, thats exactly what i use!

Combatcm

10-03-2006, 01:52 PM

I've cracked a tamiya axle cup joint once out of the many I've dealt with, that was with a novak SS in a FF02 chassis.

The hard joints are not really neccessary, the stock ones will last a while. Sure the hardened diff joints will last even longer. I don't think they make hardened axle joints.

woodymaxx

10-05-2006, 11:59 AM

Alright thanks. I know they last a long time! I've had my champ for six years and have never replaced them! There quite worn out by now. The front axles were origanal too! Shame there discontinuing these cars. There tuff

Jayboy

10-05-2006, 12:20 PM

are they really discontinuing them?
what a shame....
i have had mine for years too, i hope i can still get parts for it in the future!

woodymaxx

10-05-2006, 03:00 PM

well It says discontinued on the tamiya site but there still for sale on tower. so who knows.

rc newbie

12-20-2006, 09:51 AM

hiya ive just got my first rc buggy a baja champ any tips for asemberly

rc newbie

12-21-2006, 11:34 AM

oh yeh i should have told you im in england by the way this is a cool thread

WolverineX

01-08-2007, 10:42 AM

Welcome to this forum. I just got here myself as I bought my three sons a Tamiya buggy each for Xmas. A Gravel Hound, a Baja King and a Mad Bull!
When building take your time on a clean clutter free surface. Have a couple of good tools with you and a sharp knife.
Don't go mad with the 'tiny' tube of grease tamiya supply, you don't need much.
As you may have found by trawling this forum, get yourself some good oil filled shocks and a set of DF-02 (Gravel Hound/Rising Storm) dogbones from ebay. If your kit has a mechanical speed controller swap it for an electronic one.
Enjoy!

Jayboy

01-08-2007, 04:31 PM

Welcome to the forum!
Now get posting!

rc newbie

01-10-2007, 10:20 AM

hiya just finished painting it when the paint drys i post some pics thanks for the advice :)

WolverineX

01-10-2007, 05:01 PM

Here's a photo of my sons' Baja King, painted as he wanted with Parma Flames Stickers and a few Tamiya ones. I found the Lexan shell very thin and cracking after only three drives around the exhaust area!
Apart from a Red alloy Heatsink from 3 Racing, it has no mods or hop-ups yet but I'm looking at Dampers on ebay and trying to find the alloy front and rear suspension arms in Red Alloy to match the paint.
Comments welcome.
http://mysite.wanadoo-members.co.uk/mariblanca/pictures/BillysBajaKing.JPG

rc newbie

01-11-2007, 08:30 AM

Jayboy

01-11-2007, 04:28 PM

Very nice paint job WolverineX, but what do you mean by 'exhaust area'?

rc newbie....yes you can use li-pos, but be sure your esc, charger and YOU can handle them!

WolverineX

01-11-2007, 04:36 PM

Jayboy

01-11-2007, 04:44 PM

Here are a few images of my Tamiya Baja Champ, which is exactly the same as your sons Baja King, WolverineX, only with a slightly different bodyshell slapped on!
Sorry they are so big!

http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/7233/dsc00052zl7.jpg
http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/7387/dsc00054ys3.jpg
http://img70.imageshack.us/img70/2135/dsc00056cq9.jpg

This is a picture of exactly the same car, but i modified it into a stadium truck with proline dirt hawg wheels, RPM rims, and a custom painted chevrolet silverado body...
http://img363.imageshack.us/img363/6714/dsc00237xy1.jpg

....but, unfortunately, i couldnt keep my car looking like this, as the larger diameter wheels ended up over-gearing my car, and destroying one of my batteries!

Jayboy

01-11-2007, 04:46 PM

I mean the Lexan body between the left hand exhaust and the 'Rollcage' of the rear body is ver, VERY thin and has already split! I've also just added a full bearing kit, but have yet to run it to see if there's any noticable difference.
What's a li-pos please?
A Li-Po is a type of battery that only hardcore racers use. It has extreme power and can give astonishingly long run times and fantastic power to your car...but you have to have specialist knowledge of them to use them...not for your average basher!

WolverineX

01-11-2007, 05:10 PM

What tyres are on there mate? What shocks are on the car, I'm looking for some for my lads Baja King.
Give us some details please, looks like you put on some underbody plate and is than a speed controller on the side of the chassis?

Jayboy

01-11-2007, 05:18 PM

Right, no problem mate!
On the truck version...
The tyres are Proline Dirt Hawg truck tyres (£10.99 a pair)
The rims are RPM 'Talonz' (£9.99 a pair)

On the buggy version...
The tyres are the stock ones that it came with, but completely bald! (perfect for drifting!)
The wheels are also the stock ones supplied, but i sprayed them orange!
The shocks are Ansmann oil filled Aluminium shocks (£9 for all 4 from ebay)
I made my own custom underbody chassis plate out of 1mm thick aluminium, that protects the motor, chassis and battery pack from scratches.
...finally, no the speed controller is not on the side of the chassis, it is the thing sticking up on the top of the chassis...

diggernz

01-11-2007, 05:33 PM

What are the links to these good dog bones? I can't find them :(
If you are in New Zealand I can get you some.

Jayboy says
...but, unfortunately, i couldnt keep my car looking like this, as the larger diameter wheels ended up over-gearing my car, and destroying one of my batteries!
Dave says
I also know that the HBX bonzer truck gears fit in a baja champ if you want to gear it for those wheels and tyres. But the bonzer TL01b replica shows that the tyres are to heavy for jumping with this chassis and the shock mounts break.You need a whole new chassis then. Lucky it didnt fry your ESC aswell.
Keep the Baja a buggy, its what it does best IMO. Keep your nice truck wheels tyres and truck body and buy a wild dagger or king blackfoot or blackfoot extreme, not a original blackfoot for hard core bashing and jumping, once again they are not up to the task.

Jayboy

01-11-2007, 05:42 PM

Yeah, thanks!
I modified my buggy to be a truck about 7 months ago now, and changed it back to a buggy about 5 months ago.
And yes, the buggy version is a lot better anyway, except for the looks!

I have a video of it on youtube, but its with my 15 turn motor (i now have a faster 13 turn motor).
Heres the link...(sorry about the quality, it is from my cell phone...)
CLICK HERE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SSNZbmCemV0)

WolverineX

01-12-2007, 08:23 PM

Does anyone know of any alloy shock towers or suspension arms that are available for, or that will fit the Baja King/Champ?

Jayboy

01-12-2007, 08:36 PM

There are no aluminium shock towers available, as the shock tower is actually part of the main chassis on a TL01.
There are some suspension arms available for the chassis, manufactured by GPM.
They are very often found on ebay being sold by japanese shops....
Here is a link...CLICK HERE (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/TAMIYA-Baja-Champ-King-Front-Rear-Lower-Arm-Arms_W0QQitemZ330074642805QQihZ014QQcategoryZ2565Q QrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)

diggernz

01-12-2007, 09:18 PM

i had to reenforce my shock mounts with a 1mm piece of sheet aluminium. Easy to tinsnip then file to a shape that fits and screws up to the four holes. Ive also seen a totally awsome perspex shock tower that enable traxxas long shocks to be mounted.,
http://pirzol.dyndns.info

WolverineX

01-13-2007, 03:04 AM

Thats great thanks, I'll make my own like you say from just adding a bit of aluminium sheet to strenghten it.

rc newbie

01-13-2007, 12:01 PM

kool car li po are lithum polymer batteries

rc newbie

01-16-2007, 12:03 PM

sory for being a bit thick but can u use 1/8 ralycross tyers on a baja champ

diggernz

01-16-2007, 09:30 PM

I use 1/8 TGX rally tyres and rims on my dirt thrasher so as not to stuff my pin spikes when I wanna drive my car around the yard, which is gravel, concrete and grass. Not the most off road tyre friendly terrain.
The wheels are "speed discs" wheels, also fit TGX 1/8 scale onroad tyres, radials and slicks. I discovered this in one of my many "modify my car" sessions, the 2wd rear wheels on many tamiyas use the speed discs also. They are standard 12mm hex solid dish style wheel opposed to the Bajas 5 star design. Id guess the rims would be the same size.
5729-5234 are the 1/8 size and 5222-4826 are the 1/10 car rally and radial tyres and they dont look right on a 1/10 buggy.

WolverineX

01-18-2007, 04:40 AM

Ok, I need to summarise here...I like alloy bits, (they look cool) I can find a suspension arm set in blue (but I want red or silver!) alloy on ebay, I need knuckles and hub carriers so will TL-01 alloy parts do? Or will I need TB-01 parts as I read earlier in this post? I understand I'll also have to add ball link steering with the TB-01 parts is this true?
I have a set of alloy oil filled dampers on their way, and I have replaced plastic bearings with proper kit.
I will add alloy sheet to the front and rear shock mounts to strengthen them
and I will also cover any unwanted holes in the chassis which will probably let in a lot of grit and dirt.
DF-02 and ThunderShot dog bones will fit. Is this true?

Jayboy

01-18-2007, 02:41 PM

-You cannot get silver or red suspension arms to my knowledge.
-Yes, TL01 alloy parts do fit, but there may be some binding issues...i dunno about TB01 parts though???
-Yes, Thundershot dogbones do fit, i have them too!

But why do you want all this aluminium?
It is expensive, looks horrible when it is scratched and adds weight to the car, which slows it down!
I would not bother getting any aluminium bits, except from the GPM TL01 Spur Gear, when your stock one strips.
You better be treating your other son's cars with this much respect too!!!
Good Luck!

WolverineX

01-18-2007, 04:16 PM

Oh believe me I do look after all my sons Cars. The Gravel Hound has all the alloy hop-ups, the Mad Bull has an ESC and DF-02 Oil-filled shocks. I have a Super Sabre that I have rebuilt and just needs a body and also an original Grasshopper that I'm rebuilding and repainting for us all to play with!
I'm really getting into RC!

Jayboy

01-18-2007, 04:28 PM

Wow!
You got some lucky kids!
Good luck with everything, and keep postin' pics!

WolverineX

01-20-2007, 12:54 PM

I have a video of it on youtube, but its with my 15 turn motor (i now have a faster 13 turn motor).

Forgive me I am new to this R/C scene...
So a 13 turn motor is faster than a 15 turn? Can someone tell me how many turns the standard Tamiya 540 motor is, and what's so good about the Tamiya Dirt Tuned 27 turn motor (#53929) I just bought off ebay, not bought for use with any of my son's cars in mind. I was thinking of adding it to my Super Sabre 4WD Vintage buggy or Original Grasshopper for a bit of fun.

Jayboy

01-20-2007, 03:22 PM

Yeah, the lower the number of turns, the faster the motor.
A standard silver can motor by Tamiya is 27Turns, so im guessing that 27Turn motor you just bought will be faster and have more torque than the standard motor, but not by much...
Good Luck

WolverineX

01-20-2007, 03:58 PM

OK! So when you mean faster, do you mean acceleration or top speed?
Does a 13 turn accelerates faster but has less top speed where as a 27 turn motor does not accelerate as fast but has more top speed? Confused!

Jayboy

01-21-2007, 04:39 PM

OK,
To put it simply, the lower the amount of turns a motor has, the faster the top end speed AND the quicker it accelerates.
So a 13Turn motor will always out-perform a stock 27Turn motor.
BUT...the lower the turns of the motor, the less runtime you get on a single battery pack, as it drains more current.

This is not that relevant, BUT...
This is also when gearing comes into play...the lower the number of teeth your pinion gear has (the one on the end of your motor), the quicker the car accelarates, but the lower the top speed, and Vice Versa.
Also, the more teeth the spur gear has (the gear that the pinion gear connects to in the cars transmission), the quicker it accelerates, but the lower the top speed.

For example, if you had a high tooth pinion, and a low tooth spur gear, the car will accelerate quite slow, but will have a fast top speed.
And if you have a low tooth pinion gear and a high tooth spur gear, the car will accelerate rapidly, but have a lower top end speed.

WolverineX

01-21-2007, 05:07 PM

Cheers Jayboy.
Had a bad day earlier today, Baja king stopped dead, motor was spinning but no movement in the wheels, then the Gravel hound flipped and landed upside down...broken front shock bolt and the alloy body mount came off with the bit of plastic off the drive shaft cover, first time out with all the alloy hop-ups! Then the Mad Bull seemed faster in reverse than forwards!

The Baja Kings pinion had come loose and dropped off. No damage to any gears luckily. So tightened that up. The Gravel Hound has been sorted! Stripped the Mad Bull Gearbox and checked the motor...all fine. Any ideas?

Jayboy

01-21-2007, 05:11 PM

What speed controller and motor have you got in the mad bull then, and what radio equipment?

WolverineX

01-21-2007, 05:18 PM

Tamiya TEU-101BK ESC and Futaba Attack 2ER Radio gear with Futaba S3003 servo.
I replaced the mechanical speed controller that came in the kit. It's been fine before today. Wet maybe? Not the best weather today, but he didn't go through puddles.
http://mysite.wanadoo-members.co.uk/mariblanca/pictures/JoesMadBull.JPG

Jayboy

01-21-2007, 05:26 PM

Have you got the standard 540 silver can motor in it, or another motor??

WolverineX

01-21-2007, 05:55 PM

Standard 540 and 17T pinion.

Jayboy

01-21-2007, 05:59 PM

Are the wires connected correctly e.g. blue ESC wire to blue MOTOR wire?
Are the plugs secured firmly in the receiver?
Have you pressed something on the transmitter?
Thats all i can think of...
Try charging your battery to the max and taking it out again, to see if the problem still persists...
...if it does, try posting a querie in the main section of the forum, as im sure there are more people out there that can help you more than i can!

WolverineX

02-06-2007, 10:56 AM

Hello JayBoy...
I Recharged the battery rechecked all gearbox internals and wires in the Mad Bull.. it's fine now! I have the Alloy oil filled shocks for the Baja King fitted them and they're great, but the springs are yellow! I think I'll try and get some red springs, just for show really. I've given up on the alloy arms for the King 'cos they only come in blue and to be honest that was just for show too.
My Super Sabre's coming on great as I managed to get a brand new lexan body, wing, decals and driver for 14 pounds from USA. Postage was a bit but still worked out less than getting one over here!
I'm looking at having a dabble at a RockCrawler. So I'm looking at Twin Detonators, Clod Busters and the most promising one at the moment the TXT.

Jayboy

02-06-2007, 03:46 PM

Wicked...sounds like everything is coming along nicely!
Good luck with the rock crawler!

If you do get some different coloured springs, they usually come in different tensions aswell, e.g hard, soft etc...so just be aware as they can alter the handling.

GavC

04-14-2007, 04:54 PM

Hi, new guy here in the UK! I've just built a Baja Champ but have managed to strip the gears in the Acoms ASA16 servo just by clipping a kerb. Any sugestions as to a better replacement? Metal gears? Thanks

kartrun

04-14-2007, 10:48 PM

Was curious if you guys could help me out. I'm looking for a link to a site or a name of a place where I could purchase turnbuckles for my 'champ. I've been looking everywhere but so far no luck. :confused: any help would be appreciated. Thanks in advance.

sbrv24

05-31-2007, 12:58 PM

I have done a bit of research myself on buying my first RC car on a sub $ 200 budget .
My shopping cart http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wto0149p

I am an aero modler who now wants to try off road cars as well. Need help from the pros on this forum to know if my choice is good for a start.

Await advice

WEBJPN7

07-20-2007, 03:07 PM

I am just getting into rc rock crawling, I was wondering if I could hook up dual esc's to a traxxas tq3 radio?

Jayboy

07-20-2007, 03:29 PM

You wont get a reply in this part of the forum, try asking in the rock crawlers section...

ofnaGTP26

07-25-2007, 03:58 AM

I have looked all over this site for converting the Baja king to a rally car. I bought a new kit from Towerhobbies, even though it was discontinued. I found the TL-01 long arm conversion, but nothing about the TL-01b. I know it has the long arms already on it. Should I just have to change out the body mounts and shocks?

rc newbie

08-05-2007, 01:48 PM

hiya is this forum still alive well i have made a video of my baja champ drifting so heres the link:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wVq2GA8Mkqw

somedudeandanrc

09-17-2007, 10:47 AM

Hey guys, I'm new to this forum but I thought I start by showing my rc. Heres some pics of my tl01b baja champ... it's no showcar but I had to engineer a few things on it and modified it. The antenae on it that you see is a high gain antanae, extended my range by +50%, it's a wifi antenae, originally had a magnetic base, but it came out of the base because all the rolls it bent off... so i just mounted it.

I recently did a few things to it...

- To get a little lighter weight I changed from a steel rollbar to a thicker guage aluminum rollbar... more structural...

- so structural: I made a new front shock mount out of galvanized steel attached to the rolcage I'm tired of buying 20 dollar chassies and ripping the shock towers off and tearing the entire thing apart when i hit something dead center.

- Kinda started to paint stuff :/ any recomendations... the dogbones are hopeless I have to bend them back to often... cartwheels at 30+ mph take it's toll. It weights 4lb 3.2 oz with receiver battery but without the two 7.2 packs.

http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff101/somedudeandacomp/LPIC0001.jpg
http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff101/somedudeandacomp/LPIC0004.jpg
http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff101/somedudeandacomp/LPIC0003.jpg
http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff101/somedudeandacomp/LPIC0002.jpg

somedudeandanrc

10-07-2007, 11:53 AM

http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff101/somedudeandacomp/BajaChamp.jpg

EddiePi

07-19-2008, 05:52 PM

Hello all. Is anyone still driving the TL-01B these days? I notice its been a while since there was activity on this thread. I ask because I bought one and think it is quite the runner. It is my first car and I know it needs some fine/fun tuning which means i need advice. The first issue is the stearing. It pulls to the left & right. Any ideas anyone?? Thanx!

somedudeandanrc

07-19-2008, 09:40 PM

I still run the tl01b, read this forum... full of good stuff.

Mine does that to this day, but I've messed with mine so much, nothing is stock on it accept the chassy.

I am afraid I'm the only one who checks this forum anymore for the tl01b :( sniff.

My baja champ now runs 4c lipo with a 600 size can drill motor. It's decently a pretty fast brushed rc.

rc newbie

07-20-2008, 07:26 AM

i still look here from time to time

as for the steering make sure the steering arms are in different holes on each side this will correct most of it then if you have the radio trimmed right then it should all be good

lets see if we cant bring this forum back to life

EddiePi

07-20-2008, 11:53 AM

Hello to you both. Thanks for your replies.
I have tried that already Newbie and it did sorta work. It looked like my wheels where all pointing in the right direction but I still couldnt get it to go straight after a turn or slide, without having to go back to the trim settings.
Maybe its the Servo?? Is that a possibility?? Maybe its not returning to center properly? It was the one I got with it. Acoms I think. That any good? I know everything is secure.
The fact that SomeDude says his still does it doesnt look too hopeful for me, BUT, then again, you have done alot of work SomeDude judging by the pictures you posted last year.
Anymore recent pics anyone? I'll post as soon as I can.

somedudeandanrc

07-23-2008, 12:22 AM

Could also be slop in your servo saver, the stock servo saver gets very sloppy after a good amount of usage, especially offroad usage.

I'll post some pics, I try to do everything I can myself to make the thing perform better, I try not to buy parts that cost 30 bucks a peice, I'm a do it yourself kind of person.

Just today I got new cv joints, my old ones got pulled out of the joint, the new ones I put boots over them because I wanted them to last longer and I wanted to keep the grease in, at any rate heres a pic of what I did. It's just the same material that is on umbrellas.

http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff101/somedudeandacomp/cvjoint-1.jpg

Heres my chassy a while ago, no electronics...

http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff101/somedudeandacomp/LPIC0014.jpg

Body is all hacked up I never use it anymore unfortunately.

http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff101/somedudeandacomp/LPIC0021-1.jpg

Most recent pic I had, I don't think I will take another, not much has changed.

http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff101/somedudeandacomp/LPIC0001-4.jpg

I just got lipo a couple of weeks ago, but everything that could go wrong did, My charged fried, I tried to charge the cells I used, it said it was charging the 4th cell at 200mahs... well came back and it was chargin at 100ma.... then the voltage of the cell was lower... turns out there was a short circuit in the charger and it was reading a discharge current, my lipo cell was left below the safety level and I was left with a bad charger.

I'm having the charger repaired, it maybe back in another week, I will try to charge the cell, but it's well below the safe level.

Like I said I'll get another pic, right now I'm doing an overhaul on the thing while I wait for my lipo stuff to get all set up, after using lipo the thing is like driving a brick with 12 cells, people I know love it because it's fast (especially for it's weight), but for me after using lipo I don't want to go back. I like it because it's pushing the envelope.

somedudeandanrc

02-08-2009, 02:47 AM

Recently I went brushless, with a 1900kv really high torque motor with the largest pinion, I had to track down a 5mm bore pinion with 23t to fit, but I found one. I don't regret it because the entire setup cost me 80 dollars, 23 for the motor, it's a cheap feigaeo knockoff but it works great. It can do wheelies while cruising around 45 and has plenty of rpm's to spare despite the low rpms of the motor.

It's running on 4s lipo, only 2200mah, I cut out parts of the chassis so I could fit it snug in between the steering servo and the back gearbox, it slips in through the top and I was carefully not to take any more than I needed and avoided taking anything off the sides or bottoms because it would lose it's structural integrity, it's well protected there and just barely fits. I've been using it like this for quite a while and flipped it jumped it crashed it and no cracks around the middle of the chassis so I'm happy.

The speed control I am using ran me 30 dollars, doesn't have a bec built in, runs around 100 amps max (motor is only 70 amp max) I used to use a 70 amp esc but went to the 100 amp which was only 10 dollars more don't see too much of the difference accept for the 100 amp is meant for larger count lipo cells, it doesn't support a voltage cutoff for 4s, but my 70amp did. However I have an external monitor anyways.

I'll post a pic or two eventually, maybe I can compile a decent video, but I'm bad at editing.

My current problem is finding a ball diff that will hold up to the power, I strip rear gear diffs if off roading, on road fine, but off road it's too stressful on them. I tried Tamiya's manta ray ball dif, but I stripped not the internals but the out drive splines that go into the diff because they are much shorter than the stock tl01 outdrive splines.

Bullet5

07-01-2009, 03:37 PM

I recenty bought a tl01-b chassis (bare bones) n i have so far fitted the gear boxes, drive shafts, body mounts, body, and a few extra bits n bobs.

However i need to purchase, some hex pins for my central drive shaft (2 of em), 2 turnbuckles, Servo mounts, battery clips to stop the battery falling out of its carrier, and hexaginal blocks for the wheels to recieve power. Can someone also please suggest some wheels n tyres for this beast.

By the way i have had a normal tl01 chassis for about half a year and i am a fan of this range.

Please reply asap, as parts needed quickly.

somedudeandanrc

11-09-2009, 09:39 AM

Check eBay, they've got parts, but make sure its not the tl01b or tl01a, if its any suspension part dont get those types, the battery mounts and tranny are all the same, I think I might have some stock tires for the tl01, I'de have to check though, can't remember if I sold them off or not

mat250

12-24-2009, 07:21 AM

I know this forum is on life support but some my still be lurking.
Here is my updated tl01b. It started back on page one. :)
I've added new shock towers, shocks, drive shaft, hubs and knuckles. I also flipped the rear arms for a longer wheel base. The new lid and wheels really help too.
http://homepage.mac.com/mat250/IMG_0445.jpg
http://homepage.mac.com/mat250/IMG_0454.jpg
http://homepage.mac.com/mat250/IMG_0455.jpg
http://homepage.mac.com/mat250/IMG_0451.jpg
http://homepage.mac.com/mat250/IMG_0452.jpg
http://homepage.mac.com/mat250/IMG_0453.jpg

somedudeandanrc

01-12-2010, 02:14 PM

Looking good, do you need different mounts to put a slash body on there? Also where did u pick up those shock towers at, I have a tl01 that is out of commission would like to get it running, needs a new chassis shock towers bit the dust. Frontal impact really bad. Loving the idea of flipping the arms though! And what are you looking to put in there for the motor?

Old_School_RC_1

01-12-2010, 04:59 PM

That does look nice!

Still have mine somewhere. Found out you cannot run a mamba 5700 with the carbon center shaft. Carbon splinters everywhere!

somedudeandanrc

01-12-2010, 07:49 PM

I tried brushless too, works great for a little while but it starts twisting and splitting and one good smack down with high rpms without a slipper clutch it becomes the weakest link. Don't go with aluminum either... it's hollow inside, if you can find a solid one maybe.

If you have any good carbon stock left from that messed up driveshaft cut it and put it in the tranny and replace them heavy steel gearshafts... I did that when my aluminum driveshaft snapped snapped on me, I was bummed because I paid 15 bucks for it and wanted to do something with it so I thought of cutting it to size and replacing my steel gear shafts in the tranny, and it's kind of cool because noone makes those! I'd stick with steel all the way, I've broken the stock steelies where the pins fit in on my 1900kv feigeo 9xl motor... which is around the same power as a mamba monster castle 2200kv... thing had more torque than it could eeeevver usee

Derek

mat250

01-13-2010, 07:09 AM

Thanks for the comments. I'm planning on putting the traxxas velineon brushles in there. I've also got a 2.4ghz receiver as well. The aluminum spur is really messing with my old radio. The parts took a little hunting around for. This is the body I got, the slash bodies are too big for this. Short course body (http://www.xenonproject.com/rc-trucks/parts/redcat-racing-vortex-epx-pro/110-short-course-truck-body-red-and-black-p-17040.html) With the arm flip the wheel base is now a little under 11". The shock towers were the hardest to find. I had to search for the HBX (Haiboxing) Bonzer parts Shock towers. (http://www.enjoyrchobby.com/rc-car-parts-haiboxing-rc-car-parts-c-169_146/shock-tower-set-for-haiboxing-rc-car-6528a-p-2623) I think it will be able to handle a brushless, the aluminum drive shaft feels pretty solid. As far as body mounts I had extra tl01 mounts I used. this body wasn't pre drilled. I did do a little trimming of the front wheel wells, not much. The rear tires tuck under the body nicely. One last tip. If you do the rear arm flip put some small rubber "O" rings in the outdrives to keep the shaft centered and they won't pop out on ya.

somedudeandanrc

01-13-2010, 11:05 AM

Take that aluminum spur out... just going to cause problems, when you get that brushless in there it's going to wear your pinions and spur and it's just going to cause more problems than it's worth. First few times you torque that brushless it's going to flex those soft aluminum teeth and it's going to cause lots of friction. If you don't believe me try it out for a little while, I ran a 12 cell brushed motor in there and it still had enough torque to tear up that aluminum gear. Plastic is more efficient and it won't cause any counter wear on your pinion, also make sure your using a steel pinion those aluminum pinions will tear up as well.

And this makes me want to get my tl01 running and run it at practice on my local track, think I'm going to get a new chassy for it soon.

mat250

01-13-2010, 04:06 PM

Thanks for the advice. I'll try to get one of the delrin plastic spurs. I thought the aluminum would be stronger. I was getting horrible radio interference with the aluminum one. my range was only about 100ft. Have you been able to find any lipo's that will fit in the battery slot?

somedudeandanrc

01-20-2010, 11:57 AM

I've found the stock Tamiya plastic spurs do just fine, so do the bonzer offbrand (chinese knockoff) gears, but I wouldn't use any gears other than the counter, never tried Delrin.

Ran into the same interference problem you had, made the little thing sound like it had some serious power though, the transmission made it sound like a little engine as it reved up, but yeah make sure you get a steel pinion you won't be sorry and it makes your spur (even plastic) last SOO much longer.

buggyboy365

06-24-2010, 11:31 PM

I have a baja king with a sport tuned motor. what is better mini cva's or the extended shock mounts?

TSRecord

07-11-2010, 02:22 PM

Hey, I'm new here, intending to upgrade my Tamiya Baja King and, being new to the whole modification and upgrade side of rc cars, need some help.

Basically I'm trying to change from the stock off road set up to a more tarmac friendly, faster setup. To start with I have got some new road tyres but I'm also looking to change the suspension, motor and stock mechanical speed controller. I'm after a setup which will give good acceleration and as high a top speed as possible whilst also keeping costs down.

So far I'm looking at getting a 23turn motor, Tamiya TEU-104BK ESC (25t limit) and some Tamiya road tuned springs for the suspension. Are all these parts compatible and are there any better options for a similar price?

Thanks

edit:

I've also just seen this http://www.etamiya.com/shop/tamiya-50737-tamiya-parts-suspension-arm-rc-tl01-p-3824.html

Is there any way I could use these parts to change from the TL-01B to TL-01 setup? Only reasons being that I prefer the road body shells and only really drive on tarmac.