Wheely Problem?

[4x4_Racer]

As most of you know by now I was given a pede a week ago, well I tuned the carb and engine back to life and all I seem to get out of her is wheelies. lol. Nothin wrong with that but it really don't help when I am racing my friends on the track. Any suggestions if there are any as to where I can adjust the carb to go full throttle w/o flippin backwards?

[Suade907]

Lower it as far as it can go.

[RS4Tinkerer]

Im not intimately familia with your truck, but you have a slipper clutch right? is so loosen it JUST A BIT! Not much. this will allow the spur to slip just a tad when the truck gets a big hit of power ike you snaping it to WOT. you dont want it to slip to much or it will heat and weaken your spur, but that should help.

Mike

[4x4_Racer]

I think I am gonna try lowerin the truck just a lil first.

[Maxx_A_Million]

take out front and rear spacers and consider lighter springs front and rear... if your truck sits lower and has a lower center of gravity, till be much elss likely to flip...

[R6905]

my friend has a stampede and he uses a two pound chunk of brass on his front axle, its dimensions are about 1 by 3 by 1.


Brandon

[4x4_Racer]

Originally posted by R6905
my friend has a stampede and he uses a two pound chunk of brass on his front axle, its dimensions are about 1 by 3 by 1.


Brandon

2 lbs!?!?!?!?! Good Lord! Yeah I figure weight would be an option but I thought it may slow performance.

[R6905]

his truck is still fast, probably fast as ever.



Brandon

[RS4Tinkerer]

yea, thats a good idea. lets make your truck heavier by adding a lot of unneeed wight! if adding the weight is so good, then why would companies sell LIGHTNED parts? must be some sort of marketing gimmick right? they sell us all this lite crap so that thier factory racers can use the faster heavier stuff.....

have your friend pull off the Brass weight and see how much faster his truck is. Oh wait. You probably got him to install one of your SuperChargers that wont work on a 2 cycle engine right?

MIke

[gbarmore]

Relax everybody!!!! Just a guess but i'm thining he was being facetious about the 2 pound chunk of brass..... Think about it for a minute...... The truck weighs about 5 pounds as is, a 2 lb brass bomb would flatten the front end. The front bumber would be like a bulldozer blade. Think that would put some stress on the clutch and conrod:p

[Maxx_A_Million]

youcould however pu the battery pakc further foreward, detune the low end a bit, and the slipper clutch will help, as well as perhaps a lower profile tire... i bet p10 tires would work great on a pede... also, seriously look at diferent springs to lower your truck... what springs, i wouldnt know

[R6905]

he said it was two pounds, its not like i weighed it. but if your not racing you dont really need lightened parts. if your just bashing use whatever you want.



Brandon

[R6905]

lightened parts, not in this case are normally weaker, thats why bashers normally put the thicker, stronger heavier stuff on



Brandon

[4x4_Racer]

And all this heat and frustration only accured because I was having wheely problems *tisk* *tisk* lol :D

[R6905]

no, it occured on another thread when rs4tinkerer disagreed with me and thought he knew everything about everything.



Brandon

[Janders]

lower or loosen the front, or raise and stiffen the rear. Definitely lower the CG.
BTW, do NOT add weight, simply relocate as much weight forward, and lower as you can.

[RS4Tinkerer]

yea R6905 made a few comments in a seperate post that I diddnt agree with. and since i diddnt agree with him I guess he thinks that I am a bad guy. add as much weight as you want to. Im sure your truck will stay just as fast as it was. if you are going downhill....

Mike

[poopie]

Stiffening the rear does not help prevent wheelies. I say add one or two teeth the the clutch bell or go down a few teeth on the spur. This way you get a better top end with out having to fiddle with weights distribution, springs, slippers and such. Although the n-pede is not a racer, it wouldn't hurt to lower it a bit.

[R6905]

rs4- i dont think your a bad guy, i just think the way you handled my comment was, lets say, a little immature?



Brandon

[RS4Tinkerer]

and you of course werent.... right?

Mike

[R6905]

read my post in the super charger forum, and yes i was immature. Also, for everybody to know, the brass bar on my friends stampede was just so he didnt weelie as much. i never said it handled as well, and as far as i could tell, he was just as fast.


Brandon

[Janders]

Originally posted by poopie
Stiffening the rear does not help prevent wheelies...

Stiffening the rear prevents transfer to the rear axle, and prevents 'squat' which both increases rear traction, and by definition is ths start of a wheelie

[4x4_Racer]

Originally posted by Janders
Stiffening the rear prevents transfer to the rear axle, and prevents 'squat' which both increases rear traction, and by definition is ths start of a wheelie

Thats what I thougt too.

[R6905]

Originally posted by 4x4_Racer
Thats what I thougt too.

thats what i was thinking also


Brandon

[R6905]

also, if your truck sits higher in the back then front, your truck has farther to go to wheelie, so you wont. or, very very simple start out technique, dont use full throttle






Brandon

[4x4_Racer]

Originally posted by R6905
also, if your truck sits higher in the back then front, your truck has farther to go to wheelie, so you wont. or, very very simple start out technique, dont use full throttle

Brandon

But full throttle right out off the bat (after its warm of course) is fun!! :) lol

[Maxx_A_Million]

not if you cant do anything but flip it on its lid...

[RS4Tinkerer]

WHEELIE BARS!!!!

Mike

[Janders]

nothing but 4mm pole and slot car tires
Be a litle creative and it's very easy to make a custom one.(lol, I can't believe no one mentioned this until now)

[4x4_Racer]

Can you use wheely bars when racing though? Wouldnt they cause some sort of lag when racing?

[Maxx_A_Million]

theyre probably not legal. . . besides, when racing you want enough torque to wheelie, but only when youre coming off the last corner sideways and you hit the stiky spot with your engine revving 20000 and your rear wheels searching for traction int eh dust. . .

[RAMTech-RC]

Most tracks will let you use wheelie bars. I know alot of racers with them, as long as they are strong enough to take the punishment. If you loosen the rear springs, your truck won't wheelie as much though.

[4x4_Racer]

I dont know if its good on the engine or not but I found out richening the engine allows for less wheelies.

[Spooph]

you know, coming back to the 2 pound brass weigh, it would actually make the truck faster!! It sounds like the pede's power to weight ratio is huge, so if it's got all that extra power, the weight will force the tires to get more grip, and since there is more grip, it'll go faster... Hehe, isn't that right R6905. (wink to RS4Tinkerer), hehe, sorry, i've been laughing at you guys from the first post in the super charger forum, sorry, it's just funny seeing a marine and 14 year bicker....

Anyways, so many good suggestions, but please, don't strap more weight to the front.. Try all of them, especially lowering the truck and moving all movable to the front.. ie battery pack and reciever. By the way, why do you want WOT launches? I thought those were left exclusively for weeeeeelies in the first place. hehe, anyways, have a bash...... and no harm ment in comments to RS4Tinkerer and R6905. hehe, everybody have a great day!!!