View Full Version : otherthan AE name what going to be special about AEMT
QUAKE&SHAKE
07-14-2003, 03:18 PM
Now with the SS coming out it looks even more difficult for AE to make a big splash with the AEMT.
What do you guys think its going to take for the ae truck to be special?
If things have not changed much this truck will most likely be in fourth place in performance when it does release and thats sad.
1. Savage SS will be quick,40+, best susp
2. Maxx quick 40+, hop-ups
3. Savage rtr that great susp
4. AEMT, If it has just that ttr21 it wont be as quick (due to its size) & if it still does 32-33 as rep said it will be way slower.
AE better pull a good trick out of the hat to be something special set it apart (ahead) of the others
So AE other than your name, Whats going to be special about this truck?
The high price ???? LoL
no just j/k :D
I though it has a special tank with something to feed the engine when upside down (like you could take your time to go to your truck and put it back on tires..)
DFF
Skribble
07-14-2003, 04:47 PM
- It can handle the power of a .50?? or something stock.
- Nice chassis that looks like it won't be replaced any time soon.
- Factory Team Options; Piggy back shocks.
- RTR Rear Exhaust Setup.
- Looks tough.
Only things I can think of. I'm wondering of the Factory Team is going to be RTR or Kit? That Savage SS better push them to make a kit ..
R6905
07-14-2003, 07:16 PM
i think they are taking way too long to make this darn thing, they announced it... Last year some time? its supposed to be "bigger, faster, tougher" but then it would have to have thick plastic parts or aluminum, and a .25 or .26, and have to be bigger than a terra crusher.... thats gotta be kinda hard, but i dont know if they are aiming for that anymore
Brandon
SteveK
07-14-2003, 08:00 PM
Is it bigger than any of the non-1/8 based trucks, or is something like the Terra Crusher larger?
ElPolloDiablo
07-14-2003, 08:07 PM
I really hope they make a factory team kit version without and engine.
but I dont know if they can really send it out the door with a .21 engine anymore now that the savage ss is out.
rx78gp03s
07-14-2003, 08:36 PM
i can see dual motors now.
TC3Racer
07-14-2003, 09:12 PM
i wouldn't count on it. If someone installs dual engines they are not gonna get that much in sales. The price will be bumped up and it will take longer to break-in due to having 2 engines. also, yea 2 engines is nice but the power to weight ratio will be worse and i can see lots of problems result in a dual-engine truck.
I think that AE is just tossing in their deal in the big NMT fad. its 1/8th scale so its definitely bigger than average and with those strong transmission and differential gears, big bashers will be throwing down 4-strokes like white on rice.
rx78gp03s
07-14-2003, 09:49 PM
Originally posted by TC3Racer
i wouldn't count on it. If someone installs dual engines they are not gonna get that much in sales. The price will be bumped up and it will take longer to break-in due to having 2 engines. also, yea 2 engines is nice but the power to weight ratio will be worse and i can see lots of problems result in a dual-engine truck.
great now we'll never kno if they dont go dual motors because of research of if they saw this thread.
oh well.
i hyave question tho.
when they say it's"bigger, faster, tuffer", "bigger, faster, tuffer" then what?
alphax43
07-14-2003, 09:59 PM
I'm kinda new to this; I don't own a truck and I never have. But to me the AE MT looks like EVERY other MT on the market. I don't really see a difference from every other "tub" based truck on the market. (my option) but I honestly don't like the look of most trucks. If I had the money and the R/C know how I would get a Savage SS; it looks like a MT to me. I know there are more realistic MT's out there (txt-1, X-factor) but to me they look to breakable. All I'm saying is that to me; the Savage is the only DIFFERENT looking truck out there. The AE truck doesn't really seem to bring anything new to the hobby. Just my 2c...
K Man
Coconut
07-14-2003, 11:50 PM
That chassis definitely looks tough and I like the alum. suspension mounts. If the driveshafts are tough enough;I like the choice of universals over crummy dogbones and even CVD's. Main thing is Associated reputation for a godd;tested product. Afterall the truck by TTR has already been released in Germany but apparently Associated wanted changes. I really don't know of truck on the market now that doesn't take alot of mods to bring it up to my liking. When it comes to setting up a off raod vehicle;Associated experince is what verybody I know is excited about. I'll keep my lighter Dominator for racing and use the BIG Associated truck for bashing.Both the Associated and Savage are just too heavy for serious big block racing in my opinion.
nitro_racers
07-15-2003, 01:45 AM
in my opinion i don't think this thing is gonna be all that good. No matter what its not gonna be as good as the Dominator. I wonder why they made it so heavy anyway withch is one weakness of this truck.
Maxx_A_Million
07-15-2003, 03:07 AM
personally, i see it as a novelty item and not a bashable r/c... its even worse than the trra crusher as far as being all tires, and ive been lead to beleive that the TC is still slightly larger and has slightly more gorund clearance...
nitro_racers
07-15-2003, 12:06 PM
i think team associate built this truck too heavy. i mean when u bash it and jump it in the air all that wait coming down and boom! all u get are alot of broken parts. I wonder is associate building this truck for bashing only cause it doens't seem like its gonna be a good competition. just my $0.02 cent opinion.
Maxx_A_Million
07-15-2003, 08:17 PM
i agree. . .
Skribble
07-16-2003, 12:36 AM
Originally posted by nitro_racers
i think team associate built this truck too heavy. i mean when u bash it and jump it in the air all that wait coming down and boom! all u get are alot of broken partsI think you're talking about a T-Maxx. ;D
Grant Tokumi
07-16-2003, 03:25 AM
I personally think its going to make a large impact on MT racing in a positive way.
Lordkett
07-16-2003, 01:03 PM
Associated has not updated the specs. page for the Monster GT in quite awhile so who knows how heavy it will be after all of the refinements that it has been through.
I have taken a close look at the monster trucks that are avalible and the ones that are soon to be released, I really don't see what makes any one of them so much more special than another one. It all comes down to personal choice, and my choice will be the Monster GT.
nitro_racers
07-16-2003, 02:13 PM
i heard a <tpphalen> says this it soppose to be a racing truck so i guess it can't make impact on that.
TPhalen
07-17-2003, 01:35 AM
Ummm, nitro_racers, I NEVER said this is supposed to be a racing truck. I might have said you CAN race it, and it will perform awesome, but by no means was this thing designed as a dedicated racing vehicle (like our B4/T4/TC3/NTC3 etc lineup of vehicles).
Again, don't get me wrong. This truck will hold it's own with the best of them....if not our-perform them. But it's first intention was life as a basher....something to enter the RTR market with that would be great for the first timer as well as the racer.
Maxx_A_Million
07-17-2003, 03:32 AM
why si it entering the market so much later than all the other MTs?
Must have SERIOUS production flaws or it would have been released last fall like it was supposed to have been. Now the market is flooded with so many new designs that I doubt that the MGT will do much in the way of sales. AS far as the dual engine design goes, the new RCCA has the dual engine Titan from Ofna and it is supposed to be a production truck eventually if I'm not mistaken. I hope they beefed up the CVA's:p
Grant Tokumi
07-17-2003, 08:11 PM
I'm kind of using the touring car as a model for my prediction on future AE sales of the MGT. Associated seemed to me to enter the TC scene late in the game, and now look at how popular the TC3 line has become. I personally don't think technological innovation is 100% responsible for its popularity, maybe 50%. And I think the MGT will follow the same path, as long as the machine is reliable from a durability standpoint. So its good to know that AE is making that one of its top priorities before release.
My opinion anyways. I can't wait to see how it pans out.
muswagon
07-17-2003, 10:14 PM
WHAT PART OF THIS TRUCK BEING THUNDER TIGER IS EVERYONE MISSING?
Topmason
07-18-2003, 08:17 PM
Originally posted by muswagon
WHAT PART OF THIS TRUCK BEING THUNDER TIGER IS EVERYONE MISSING? This is the second time I've seen you say something like this. I'm quite certain that the only thing "Thundertiger" about this truck is the engine. If TT made the truck, why the hell would they let AE put their name on it?
Someone correct me if I'm wrong on this! Quickly even.
Grant Tokumi
07-18-2003, 08:26 PM
This is the second time I've seen you say something like this. I'm quite certain that the only thing "Thundertiger" about this truck is the engine. If TT made the truck, why the hell would they let AE put their name on it?
Someone correct me if I'm wrong on this! Quickly even.
Sorry, but if I'm not mistaken, you are mistaken. :). My understanding is the truck is Thunder Tiger's design, supervised by AE, and now its being tested and improved by AE staff. Seems to me like some people think the truck is "tainted" because it was not designed from the start by AE. I can see the point, but I still think it will be a very popular truck nonetheless.
Topmason
07-18-2003, 08:41 PM
Well, I do thank you sir for that clarification. It certainly does have my interests peaked, but I knew nothing of this "joint venture" between TT and AE. It is kind of a slap in the face, now that I think about it.
Thanks again.:)
Grant Tokumi
07-18-2003, 08:46 PM
WHAT PART OF THIS TRUCK BEING THUNDER TIGER IS EVERYONE MISSING?
Well, if it makes you feel any better, assuming the above statement was a negative one, I think that was an undeserved slap in the face towards AE as well.
ncrego
07-18-2003, 09:19 PM
So it's a joint venture with TT, Big deal? Get over it, TT has some excellent engineering. Their Helis are great, I flew a Raptor for years. Their 8th scales are also nice, I had a Mirage for a while that was well designed, and worked well. Plus, the engines are also nice. They are not always the fastest or most powerful, but they are reliable, easy to start, and they hold their tune well. Plus, TT designs their pull starts intelligently, so they are easy to rebuild. Get over it, TT makes nice products. Then with AE redesigning what they don't like, this will be a great truck. If you don't like it, don't buy it. Personally, I have had one on order since December, and whenever it is released, I'll have one to park next to my Savage.
fuzzy2133
07-18-2003, 10:14 PM
what perked my interests is what the tranny looks like inside. the engine is mounted so the CB and spur are easy to get to from the side. there has got to be some sort of center shaft to send power to front and rear diffs. maybe there are plans for a center diff or some thing to make it different form the others. I cant wait till I get mine to put in with the GT, T-Maxx & NMT.
Spooph
07-19-2003, 12:45 AM
Coming back to the naming, BFT (Bigger Faster Tougher), I don't think it has anything to do with that, those are just a cover, when I saw BFT, the first thing I thought of was Big Freekin (You guys know what goes here) Truck. I'll have to see how it holds up, because the Maxx was a revolution, then the Savage put a new spin on it, I won't pass judgement until it's out and been abused. So... Please don't take offense, just my $0.02
Spooph
muswagon
07-19-2003, 01:27 PM
ncrego, you are the only one I have ever seen that defends TTR products. Get ral man, have you ever tried to buy parts? Did you perhaps buy an EK4 version 1? I doubt it. There is a reason that TTR is releasing V2 models of the EK and even some helis. Figure it out. This truck will be crap. Everyone wants to buy it strictly because AE has their name on it. AE should just have rebadged the Thunder Quake before Hot Bodies did.
ncrego
07-19-2003, 03:28 PM
They have made some junk. The stuff I've bought has been fine. Parts are available through mailorder, or through Ace dealers. In fact, I just bought one of their electric planes today. It's very well built. As of yet, I've never heard of anyone saying anything negative about their helis. When I had my Raptor 30, parts were very reasonably priced, and easy to get. There was a period of about a month where ACE was out of some parts, but they were still available if you looked online.
You saying that the truck will be crap WITHOUT EVER SEEING IT is moronic. You have nothing to base it on. With AE working together with TTR, you are guaranteed good parts availability, plus the engineering know how of AE improving on the basic TTR design. I don't know how the truck will be, I've only seen what everyone else has, and that's pictures and video. So far it looks good. That chassis is very stout, and the overall setup looks solid. That's all I have to go on, other than the AE name. And based on those, I think it'll be a solid truck. It won't be a racer, it's too big, but it looks like it'll be a big go anywhere bashing machine.
I never said it would be great, just that TTR does have some nice products, and I've always been happy with the ones I've had. It sounds to me like you are another person who knows nothing, and has no personal experience beyond what he reads on the internet. Get some personal experience with the BFT and some TTR products before you bash them.
muswagon
07-19-2003, 05:06 PM
Hey buddy, you dont call people a moron on here, it was never personal (until now). I have owned two EK4's, and parts were impossible to find, you cant reach anyone at ACE when you need them. You get your facts straight, I have owned their products and I am not impressed. It is my opinion, I am allowed to state my opinion without fear of being called a moron. Grow up.
ncrego
07-19-2003, 05:24 PM
No one was personally attacked, a statement was, they are 2 entirely different things. However, if it makes you feel better, I'd like to change the word "moronic" in my previous post to "ignorant". Unfortunately, you can only edit posts for 10 minutes, so this is going to have to do.
Clearly we have had differing experiences with TTR products. I didn't find their products to be inferior, and I didn't have trouble with parts to any degree greater than with any other brand. The real issue isn't if TTR make squality products, it's if AE does. And as of yet, I haven't heard of anyone saying negative things about AE's engineering. That's why it's been delayed, because AE isn't just relabeling a TTR truck, they are making it to their specs.
Topmason
07-19-2003, 06:57 PM
Well,
I'm gonna have one regardless and until I've busted it all to hell, I refuse to bad mouth it at all. I really think anyone down talking any product before it's been released to, and scrutinized by, the public is ridiculous. Tis my belief that some folks are gonna be chokin on "crow" before too long!;)
muswagon
07-19-2003, 10:18 PM
It doesnt make me feel better, because you still called me a moron on a public forum. I feel that makes you ignorant, using your own words.
ncrego
07-19-2003, 10:22 PM
If that's how you feel, fine. I'm not going to lose any sleep over it, so you may as well get over it. Because that's as close to an apology as you're going to get.
muswagon
07-19-2003, 10:30 PM
Thank buddy, lets do coffee. :mad:
TPhalen
07-20-2003, 03:16 AM
"This truck will be crap." Wow. Just don't get how you can say that without even SEEING the truck run?!?! Ya, so it's a TT vehicle. It's not ONLY a TT vehicle. The EK's are ONLY TT vehicles. Can you name a place in the States that SELLS parts for TT vehicles???? I'm being facetious, of course.
Maybe the truck WILL suck, but to base that on your experience with TT products doesn't make sense....that's like saying that because I owned a Ford, well, wait, that's not a good analogy....maybe, ummm, heh heh. :)
Anyway, let's wait to see when the truck comes out how it does. If, at that time, you think it sucks, please feel free to say, but let us know WHAT you think sucks about it. We can't fix any problems if all we know is that it sucks because it's affiliated with TT!!! :)
Coconut
07-20-2003, 07:22 PM
It's heavy because it's a big truck. But as far as weight;the Savage weights 11lb 8oz stock and is smaller. Although the engine is not a world beater;the engine it is based on makes good power and reliable. No I don't think it is going to beat a Dominator but this is a basher. Quite different really. I believe that you put some Maxx size tires on it and it will be lighter than the Savage really. Sould be no parts problem with Associated handling it. As far as TTR is concerned ;Saxton siad that they have excellent manufacturing facility but needed "guidance" as far as their next buggy. They could have used some guidance on the EK4 from what I've seen. Associated certainly needs no guidance on on what a off-road needs;so I expect it to be good.
fuzzy2133
07-21-2003, 12:08 PM
I want to see more videos of what this thing can do.