For all those anti-tmaxx people.

[R6905]

My lhs has a parking lot race every other saturday. it has a bunch of classes and one is monster truck class. theres usually like 5-10 guys out there with t-maxxes, emaxxes, stampedes, and terra crushers with all the hop ups and bigger engines. Well, last saturday this guy came out there with a stock t-maxx with road rage tires on it and just blew away all the competition. Beat em all by a couple of laps (they go by how many laps instead of times.). Thats why i think the t-maxx is so great even without hop ups. Anybody had similiar things happen to them? or any other stock trucks that blew away the hopped up guys?



Brandon

[TC3Racer]

yea i do the same. Its all in the driving. i have won the A-main with my T3 RTR. the only hop ups on it are a 12T mod motor and a Novak GT7 and obviously a different sized pinion. i win alot and if i dont then i come close. I run NiCd's and its all in the driving. i race my TC3 quite a bit and it has a few hop ups but its a racer kit and i usually beat all the FT TC3 guys and all those expensive Corally's and Shumacher's and everything. The XXX-S and all its hot talk just gave me another car to beat.

[wizen2002]

I call my LHS the other day and started to talk about the new savage SS i think it was last friday when the new came out and he told me You reallly like those HPI savages don't you? I said yeah then he said all you need is a tmaxx its faster out of the box and doesn't need upgrades with the stock engine in it....

I was like hmmmmmmmwtf....should i buy one or not....So i will be buying another savage and then i will get a tmaxx and see what the hype is all about......

[R6905]

see, i consider you the "true" racer, cause instead of making the truck better, you make yourself better, and thats the heart of a true racer!!!! congratulations lol



Brandon

[Janders]

just because a certain car/truck wins one race doesn't really mean a whole lot. I see people with cars which could hardly even be considered trqack ready, much less 'race cars', beat people in much more powerful better prepared cars.

[metal gear]

on-road is easier on the T-Maxx

[wizen2002]

yeah lets hear about some off road tmaxx experiences....

[R6905]

ive never had a problem getting up to speed off road with my t-maxx. there was this construction site with a 100 foot tall mountain of dirt, really really steep, i didnt think my truck could go up it, it wasted no time climbing that thing like it was still on cement, no speed loss at all. It wasnt smooth dirt, it was hard packed with big balls of rocks and dirt, was nothing for my t-maxx. this isnt a racing story, but its a power bashing story. Wizen, you said you were looking at the savage and t-maxx. i like both of those trucks, but one thing that kinda threw me off was the single needle carb on the savage. just something for you to think about, then again i dont know what the ss has on it by way of carbs.......



Brandon

[Skribble]

Originally posted by R6905
ive never had a problem getting up to speed off road with my t-maxx. there was this construction site with a 100 foot tall mountain of dirt, really really steep, i didnt think my truck could go up it, it wasted no time climbing that thing like it was still on cement, no speed loss at all. It wasnt smooth dirt, it was hard packed with big balls of rocks and dirt, was nothing for my t-maxx. this isnt a racing story, but its a power bashing story. Wizen, you said you were looking at the savage and t-maxx. i like both of those trucks, but one thing that kinda threw me off was the single needle carb on the savage. just something for you to think about, then again i dont know what the ss has on it by way of carbs.......



Brandon Savage is 2 needle dude, lmao. What do you expect? It's a low-end, reliable .21.

[Coconut]

I don't dislike the new T-maxx even tho I how run a Dominator. It's a great small block truck that puts many big block trucks to shame very week on tracks. From sales it's still the number one MT by far and for after mart parts nothing can touch it. The Lite maxxes that are raced are really fast ,handle great. Its really seems that it always the Savage owners comparing to the T Maxx.; so you have to wander if they have seen any really fast big blocks run. Bring the T-maxx down to about 8lbs;put a forward only in it and set-up the suspension right and it's a fast cheap racer that's a blast.

[Suade907]

No one drives the T-maxx at my local track. Because they can't keep em running. You'll see 5 savages for every t-maxx.

[Skribble]

Originally posted by Suade907
No one drives the T-maxx at my local track. Because they can't keep em running. You'll see 5 savages for every t-maxx. I know what you mean .. It's more like who can last and not break race. out of 7-10 Maxxes here, only like 3 of them remain running. My friend races like the only E here, and he's one of them, LoL. They all drive good too ..

[Maxx_A_Million]

wizen, what about making another monster .21 TC? that come after the maxx?

[R6905]

woops skribble, i could of sworn the savage was single needle! I love my t-maxx, its a great truck, but i break a lot of parts all the time, in the first three weeks i had it, i dropped 300$ from my parents into it to fix parts that broke (thats replacing the stock parts). i guess im a little harder on the truck than most but.....:rolleyes:


Brandon

[wizen2002]

if i ever buy another terra crusher again i will not put a big block engine in it...Just an os .15 cvrx engine....just for fun.....

Now all my of terra crushers are sold i don't own any anymore....I just wanna explore new areas like the new 2.5 tmaxx maybe....cause everybody always keeps babling about it....

[Ninja Viper]

Originally posted by wizen2002
if i ever buy another terra crusher again i will not put a big block engine in it...Just an os .15 cvrx engine....just for fun.....

Now all my of terra crushers are sold i don't own any anymore....I just wanna explore new areas like the new 2.5 tmaxx maybe....cause everybody always keeps babling about it....

Hey Wizen, haven't talked for a while. I was very surprized to read that you no longer have any Terra Crushers. What are you driving now?

[krisI.925]

most off road trucks that are on the track are usually over powered. Escpecially when it comes to stadium trucks. I find that all you need is some good traction and a desent turn to win a race.

[R6905]

i dont understand the use of a .21 or higher on a track unless you have long straightaways (i mean LONG) and wide wide wide turns, otherwise, you are overpowered. .21 or higher is for bashing or a heavy ass truck.

Im a basher, and i want a .247, the only reason being that when rc car action? did the review on it, the went full throttle and the engine was so powerfull that they didnt go two feet! the truck was on its back!!!!!! now, thats what i call bragging rights!


Brandon

[DaFF]

The Savage carb is not a single needle, nor it is a two neddles.

It is a 3 neddles carb :)

It has:
- high speed needle
- low speed needle
- midrange needle
(the iddle screw is not a needle)

Watch a,b,d from this picture:

http://www.hpiracing.com/graphics/instr/21bbmanual/insidecover.jpg

It is not recommended to adjust the midrange needle because it is set from factory

Now, if you watch carefuly the Savage SS engine, you'll see it is a 2 needles carb for easier tuning:

http://hpiracing.com/graphics/savage_ss/nitro_star_s-25m.jpg

DFF

[R6905]

aha thats cool but its a %&@#* to tune right?



Brandon

[Suade907]

Ofna hyper .21's are 3 needles also but they are not that bad to tune.

[Maxx_A_Million]

all you can go by is smoke and performance. . .

[microrcdude]

I beat a race t-maxx with .21 with a stock B3

[Janders]

really, autocross. It had nothing to do with the car, simply driver(BTW, I'm not that good). The point I'm making is that one or a few races don't really prove anything

[Skribble]

Originally posted by DaFF
The Savage carb is not a single needle, nor it is a two neddles.

It is a 3 neddles carb :)

It has:
- high speed needle
- low speed needle
- midrange needle
(the iddle screw is not a needle)

Watch a,b,d from this picture:

http://www.hpiracing.com/graphics/instr/21bbmanual/insidecover.jpg

It is not recommended to adjust the midrange needle because it is set from factory

Now, if you watch carefuly the Savage SS engine, you'll see it is a 2 needles carb for easier tuning:

http://hpiracing.com/graphics/savage_ss/nitro_star_s-25m.jpg

DFF Yeah, my LHS said 3-needle, and I searched on Tower and it said 2-needle somewhere, and I just searched again on Tower and I can't find where I saw it .. Bah.

[DaFF]

watch carefully the Savage SS description on HPI website, it clearly state it.

DFF

[24601]

My track is all Maxx and Dominators with Maxx suspension. Savages just can't seem to turn. They jump great, but in the technical areas they get lost.

Another Savage issue--I often see guys walking the track looking for their dogbones.

[DaFF]

Agree, if you are serious about racing a Sav, you need at least a 150 oz metal gear servo (like high end Hitec @180 oz or high end Airtronic @ 200 oz) and HPI HD dogbones or better HB CVDs.

Otherwise as you said, you'll struggle to turn and / or will be looking for broken dogbones...

Anyway, pretty happy with my Sav for racing. The C5 is a dog on a race track and my Hitec 5945 steering servo get me where I want pretty fast.

The fact I have a lightweight setup with bowties on velocity deep offset does help too !

You'll see soon that my Sav setup is now also pretty trick, but I can't say more for now...

DFF

[Skribble]

Originally posted by DaFF
Agree, if you are serious about racing a Sav, you need at least a 150 oz metal gear servo (like high end Hitec @180 oz or high end Airtronic @ 200 oz) and HPI HD dogbones or better HB CVDs.

Otherwise as you said, you'll struggle to turn and / or will be looking for broken dogbones...

Anyway, pretty happy with my Sav for racing. The C5 is a dog on a race track and my Hitec 5945 steering servo get me where I want pretty fast.

The fact I have a lightweight setup with bowties on velocity deep offset does help too !

You'll see soon that my Sav setup is now also pretty trick, but I can't say more for now...

DFF Got any pics?

[DaFF]

In action:

http://www.ifrance.com/T-Maxx-Savage/photos/Dscf0410.jpg

http://www.ifrance.com/T-Maxx-Savage/photos/Dscf0411.jpg

Engine alone

http://www.ifrance.com/T-Maxx-Savage/photos/Dscf0424.jpg

(sorry don't have a good picture to show you the truck without body)

My C5 Savage Racer (dry RTR weight 10.4 lbs without the "just arrived" and "on order" pieces)

Current setup:

- Engine: R&B C5-B (B for buggie)
- R&B 086 pipe
- rotostart with custom p/s mod and piece
- Fiorini clutch with 2 slidding teflon shoes
- 16 teeth clutchbell
- R&B double foam air filter
- big volume fuel filter
- 25% R&B fuel

- Futaba sport transmitter
- Hitec 9445 MG digital steering servo
- Hitec 605BB gas / throttle servo
- 5 cell 1100 mA trinity hump pack or Robbe 870 mA mini square pack for less than 20 minutes races
- Serpent HD servo saver for steering
- Custom gas / throttle linkage (no more servo saver)


- Proline bowtie on velocity dish deep offset rim with firm insert
- 35 wt oil in shock, 2 full spacer on each
- 3000 wt f oil rear, 5000 wt front
- 4 spider mod
- silicone sealed diff
- HB CVDs all around and both center (with 2nd set screw and milled flat)
- SST socket head scews

Just arrived, just installed, no yet tested:

- titanium main gear shaft on gear box
- 7075 alum idller gear 29 t
- 7075 alum drive gear 32 t
- 7075 alum 18 /23 gear
- full set of Titanium turnbuckle
- full set of Titanium hinge pin
- front and rear 7075 alum adjustable shock tower

On order, soon to be installed:

- Vertigo 36 layer high torsionnal grade CF chassis
- Vertigo alum skid pads
- HPI adjustable upper arm

Beside this, I am still working on my little "secret" setup. The weight will go below the 10 lbs mark, better mass repartition, with a lower CG and extra toughness, not to mentionned easier access to radio stuff.... Solve the half empty tank / leaner engine running issue... Protoype is almost done....CAD drawings have been all done.... (Can't say more)... very tricky setup soon to be released...

DFF

[R6905]

Daff- your truck is awesome!




Brandon

[DaFF]

Thanks !

Being a racer, what I like most on it is the performance.

Quantum leap from a stock Savage.

The power of the C5 set it apart, but it's more the power / weight ratio that makes it so different. I must have one of the lightest Savage out there and it shows when I am at the track...

It's amazing what less rotating mass and overall weight does to it :D

It's funny because it's not even poping wheelie compare to the Savage with Picco .26 I have seen. It takes off like a bullet and light-up all 4 tires instead.

I think it is a conjunction of it being so low (I have 1/2" travel limiter inside my shock) along with the fact that lightweight truck doesn't have the same traction and "grab" on wheels as the heaviest one. The C5 doesn't have the very low end torque as the bigger displacment engine but makes up with the very low inertia instead: It goes from iddle to top rpm in a blip of the throttle.

DFF