Kyosho Landmax Forum v2.0

[Blaster]

Jeroen and Hung - Nice chat on MSN!

I will finish my new Skyline body this weekend. And run it with newly adjusted suspension. What a weekend!:D

Hung, did you got the pictures?

Jeroen where did you bought your carbon fiber parts?

See you on MSN

:)

[jeroen]

Hi

Nice too hear you have a skyline body(me love those)
Hope you can make some action pics this weekend for us,cause the weather is not goo here too drive myself.

I did those carbon parts myself yesterday.

http://www.fibre-lyte.co.uk/fl/cars/kyosho/kyosho1.html

The price is not that high too me.

And msn is really nice talking too you guys!

I have received a video from a new guy over here,but I put it on one of my own sites for faster donwload,just for awhille it will be there.
It's a special video rare onethe cam is on the car,but also outside is captured on a track.

http://members.lycos.nl/apriliars250/video/landcam.mpg

[Blaster]

Guys, still thinking on better shocks to my LM2. Have one of you saw it before? What do you think - it worths?

http://www.progressivesuspension.com/rc-car.html - Look ate 1/8 cars kits bottom page.:)

[Blaster]

Jeroen - I'll show the pictures of red skyline this weekend. I like this car shell a lot, too.:D

Many thanks for the great links you gave me. The downside is that I found the shock info and the wish list keeps growing...:(

The video of on board camera combined with track images is cool
:cool:

[fsbelem]

Hello people,
I am new here but have already meet nice people as Jeroen and Hung.
I'm from Brazil and have 2 super ten, mad force and landmax1....
If anybody wants to talk my contacts are:
msn: f_sbelem@hotmail.com
icq: 86193667

So see you soon guys!

[fsbelem]

That video that Jeroen post is from a friend of mine.
his website is http://miurasan.dyndns.org:8080/carrinho.html, if someone wats to visite... he is from Brazil too

[Blaster]

Welcome fsbelem. Do you have LM 1 or 2? Any photos - we are curious about LMs :D

Jeroen and Hung are really great guys. By the way everybody in this forum seems to "exchange" ideas for a long time now. They all are great people. But some seems to have disapeared. Maybe driving their LMs around;)

[fsbelem]

Originally posted by Blaster
Welcome fsbelem. Do you have LM 1 or 2? Any photos - we are curious about LMs :D

Jeroen and Hung are really great guys. By the way everybody in this forum seems to "exchange" ideas for a long time now. They all are great people. But some seems to have disapeared. Maybe driving their LMs around;)

I have just bought a used landmax 1 this week, but it seens very new. I'll take photos of my cars thins weekend and soon post here. They are very simple but nice...

[hung_kuen]

Helo everybody!

msn is great! today i`ll take lots off pics off my lm and get registerd with ******:D

Blaster the shocks looks wery nice.... looks like ill have to upgrade mine with piggybacks...... i need money.... so mutch nice hopups...

Putt real race 2 to on your wish list to christmas so we can all race together even though we are on totaly different places off the globe..

fsbelem good to see you are registerd now this is wery hot forum

Jereoe- had some problems downloading that vid,just ended upp on lycos front page?

hope to see ya all later today on MSN

[LanEvo5]

Hi All!

hung_kuen: you can download the video directly from my homepage (a bit slower, its an adsl connection)
www.miurasan.org/videos/landcam.zip

Best regards,

[fsbelem]

I was testing my landmax by the first time and...... :(

http://planeta.terra.com.br/lazer/fred/lm/crash.jpg

[hung_kuen]

LanEvo5- Welcome to the forum:D and thanks fore the link....
I have also the lanEvo5

[Jimmy33]

whoa that looks like it hurt!

WOW!!
hehe bet the Volvo team boss wasn't too happy when you got back to the pits! :D

nasty - how did you do it?

[Blaster]

LanEvo5 - I couldn't download your video. The connection hangs up. Is it really a 32Mb video file? Man, it is a movie!!!:D

Fsbelem - stay away from my LM!!!:D What happened with your car? Never saw lexan brake like this....

Hung - Nice videos you have!!! Guys, they're here: http://www.******.net/member/Hung_kuen

Jeroen videos are here: http://www.******.net/member/J.vm If you never heard a 3 speed LM shifting, here is your chance!:D

My videos? Well nobody is perfect...:rolleyes:

[LanEvo5]

hung_kuen: tnx! lancer evo 5? did you mean the body? mine is a Evo 4 ... I have a Evo 5 body in my V-One-R :)

Blaster: it's because it's an ADSL connection, and I have many accesses for other photos and videos in my webserver :(
But if you like, I have a 150MB AVI version of the video too :)

[Madaz]

damn that volvo shell has some bad damage!!
Dont give up on it though. get some thin aluminium or cut some lexan parts from an old bodyshell and pop rivit some plates to the inside of the shell. you would be surprised how strong this type of repair can be.

[Blaster]

LanEvo5 - I downloaded during the night. Great movie! No need of the 150Mb:D

Madaz - Where are your new photos and vid of your car in NZ?

Guys what do you think of those piggyback shock upgrades to a LM? Does it worth the investment?

[jeroen]

Hi guys

I would no go with the pigggggggggy things,you got the best shocks already.

Lanevo5 I like your site,many pics and videos,enough for one night looking:D

I have my Hyper,and did breakin 5 tanks today,so tomorow the other 3.

I have made some tech pictures of the flywheel and clutch so As I did it with the SG shaf and 2 speed.

They can be found here:http://members.lycos.nl/kyoshorccars/landmax/pictures/

Number 1 too 13 are the one too see.


See you guys on msn!

[virus]

thanks Jereon!! excellent tutorial, so what if i want an os rgxp? instead of buying the thicker flywheel, can i just shorten the shaft on the engine.
i have a 3 piece clutch that i want to keep.

[virus]

After some careful consideration and raeding about engine/ gear combination, i decided to go with O.S. .21 RG Buggy (Sport)
with GT 30, i think the engine choice is the cheapest, simplest option, only going to cost £85 deliverd!! No messing with different Flywheel, Clutch bell guides, this , that and everything else.....i hope
Any comments

Madaz, you made your own starter box, where did you get the rubber wheel from, i was thinking of attatching a rubber wheel to my cordless drill and start it like that, are they fast enough to turn engines?

thanks for all the help

[Blaster]

Jeroen - as usual you always have a good point. Thinking twice I have to agree with you. No need of more money on schocks! And nice pics of you car. Great engine! What pipe you're using? After see the photos I can understand why you disappeared from MSN for 5 hours.:D

Virus - I used an RG angine on my LM2. Great enige with enough output for fun with a 2 speed!:D Reliable and good distribution of Hp troughout the Rpm range. Obviously latter, as we all, you will be searching for more power.::rolleyes:

See'ya on MSN guys!

[jeroen]

virus

You do need a special kyosho thicker flywheel when using a O.S engine.

I heard some good things about the RG and I think it's powerfull and quick enough(the hyper is killing me and my LM:D

You can get a starter wheel at towerhobbies: http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0095p?FVPROFIL=++&FVSEARCH=starter+wheel&FVPROFIL=++

But I don't think the starter setup you talk about will work that great,it will take alot of force and trouble too make sure the starterwheel hits the flywheel good,so it will start quick.
I should buy the pulstart RG if I were you.

Blaster I use the RB 9886 pipe on my landmax now,maybe I put on the cvec one day.

I made a video today of my new hyper,and did play abit with moviemaker(just some funny quick editing)

http://members.lycos.nl/jvmracing/video

More nice landmax body pictures of that day can be found here: http://members.lycos.nl/kyoshorccars/newpage.html

[virus]

is it possible to machine a piece of aluminium behind the Flywheel to make up the thickness?
just i want to keep this 3 piece, otherwise it's more expense and a waste of a good Flywheel.

[jeroen]

I think it might work,but you have too look out that the piece of alu shim will not got locked up.

I never had a O.S so I don't know the shaft sizes myself,I only know that they need a thicker flywheel too make sure the gear mesh is right.

I think hung_kuen could help you.

[NitroTXT1]

Hey I have a kyosho landmax version 1 the Exxon Superflo Truck to be exact and I was wondering what chassis is it based on because then I could probably buy fironi parts if its based on the MP-6

and also does anyone have one or know of someone who has one lying around as a roller cause I need some new front dog-bones

I am however thinking of making it into a Savage Hybrid

[fsbelem]

Hello guys!

My website is almost done.:D I have posted some pics today....
The adress is http://kcbr.cjb.net/

See you on MSN!

[hung_kuen]

Hello everybody!

Havent been posting latly cause we have been using MSN..
Anywayz here is some new jumping clips

http://www.******.net/member/Hung_kuen

Its so difficult to controle the lm in the air... to small weels

Petter solberg are now world champion rally driver... to those that loves wrc :D

[l0freq]

hey guys... hope everyones well

been a hectic period over here in nz for us LM owners hehe... since madaz came back here we went thru almost every weekend out driving our LM's all over the place... i only have pics and some edited vids of it of our first drive (http://defy.net.nz/lofreq/pics/RC%20Stuff/030920%20-%20RCs%20out%20at%20east%20tamaki/) but subsequent to that, madaz has videos and pics of it all on his lady's video camera... so i guess as soon as he has somehow digitized all that he can then upload it for you guys :)

my lm's had it (http://defy.net.nz/lofreq/pics/RC%20Stuff/031030%20-%20random%20RC%20shiz%2001.jpg)... after almost 2yrs of bashing (http://defy.net.nz/lofreq/pics/RC%20Stuff/031030%20-%20random%20RC%20shiz%2002.jpg), the 2nd motor (poor gs21) is also on its way out... losing compression and no power... rather than changing sleeves and persevering with it ive decided to take the plunge and try upgrading to something a bit bigger and hopefully more rugged... so the lm will be up for sale (http://defy.net.nz/lofreq/pics/RC%20Stuff/031030%20-%20Landmax%20For%20Sale/) to cover costs... :(

hopefully the new ride (http://defy.net.nz/lofreq/pics/RC%20Stuff/031023%20-%20new%20sinyih%20RC%20ford%20focus/) will have the power and grunt as well as the looks to match... i hate buggy bodies so the huge car body (http://defy.net.nz/lofreq/pics/RC%20Stuff/031023%20-%20new%20sinyih%20RC%20ford%20focus/slides/new%20sinyih%20RC%20ford%20focus%2016.html) will have to do :) will try to make it look as good as its big brother (http://www.fordrallyesport.com/upload/imagelibrary/800/200310251857_CAT03-7.jpg)

new car has been assembled (http://defy.net.nz/lofreq/pics/RC%20Stuff/031030%20-%20random%20RC%20shiz%2006.jpg) and is waiting for its heart, im going to the states over DEC/JAN and will pick up its motor (http://www.extremercmotorsports.com/cgi-bin/ccp5/cp-app.cgi?usr=50X6333658&rnd=280119&rrc=N&cip=219.88.71.46&pg=prod&ref=OFNFORCE25&cat=&catstr=) and whatnot (http://www.nitrohouse.com/images/pipe-10057.jpg) then, and im thinking of bringing the chassis over to assemble and drive the thing over there :)

definitely will consider another LM, maybe an LM2 in the future for [url=http://streetracing.tiora.net/japan/drift/drift1.htm]onroad drift[/img], but we shall see...

ps: big ups to petter for a fantastic season! he really deserved it after pushing so hard. also tommi what an effort for GB - too bad for burns, sainz, and gronholm! poor markko... if ford ever get the focus reliable then look out!

[Blaster]

Man, this forum is really fast!!!

Fsbelem - nice website!:D Look forward to see some action videos. Any new body to the LM? I'll let you know about the race track this week. Couldn't be there recently.

Hung - the Evo5 looks like a intimidator car. Let's see it on a race...:D

Jeroen - great videos! The mitsubishi color is very nice. Man, a crash at high speed hurts! Your video edition is cool. :cool:

Virus - the RG is a great fit to LM. I believe that you will have some trouble with this starter you decide to use. To fit a 2 speed you will need a http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/WTI0001P?&I=LXNT03 or http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/WTI0001P?&I=LXCJX0. Whay is your actual flywheel?

Lofreq - we all believe that you will be back to LM. Until then, enjoy your new ride. It looks nice:D

Some of the guys in this forum also are in another one. So see you also there - got great incentives here and bought a Mad Force:D

[jeroen]

10freq

Said too hear you didn' buy a LM2:eek:

Although I like the new car you did buy,it looks real good too me

Your LM was used realy hard for a long time,but I can handle very good I see.
Nice pictures and video of 2 LM action cars.

I hope you will have a nice drive with the new car.

P.S I liked the writing style you did in the reply of yours

love too see those new video's at madaz his cam.

[virus]

My Flywheel is Mugen Flywheel 3-Pin MBX-4

[Blaster]

Virus - have to confess that I don't know this flywheel. But if fits a O.S. UNF1/4-28 shaft, then it wil works (like the IF023).:D Just remember that if you want to use a starter box you will need a flywheel with higher diameter than the original. Also the engine mounts cat# IF107 and IF108 and a rear exaust manifold compatible whith OS RG (Kyosho cat# 39514, 39516 or alike). And then...have fun!

Latter you will find out that the VZ-B or VZ-R fits perfectly where an RG once was:D :D :D

[hung_kuen]

10 freq

liked your post.... and a well used lm
What buggy is it?

see ya all on msn

[l0freq]

Originally posted by hung_kuen
10 freq

liked your post.... and a well used lm
What buggy is it?

see ya all on msn


thank you mr hung

the buggy is made by a company called Sinyih, apparently they have been in the model business since 1987

was a bit of a plunge into the 1/8 buggy world with this thing as all you hear about are inferno this and inferno that.... but the sinyih buggy has alot of other features and extras that the infernos dont.... plus look at that crazy chassis fold - that thing is never gonna flex! 90degree fold along the chassis! plus all kinds of things standard like castor, camber adjustment, toe in, steel spur, front universals with rubber boots, etc etc....

here are some specs... (http://www.storacingproducts.com/shop/34/) click on the AX5 link... looks to be good specs on paper, after i get the motor in i will let you guys know how well it drives! :)

[hung_kuen]

10freq- nice specs:D i am saving fore a buggy my self so i can travel to a town called oslo here in norway to race and do a competiton.

I am falling in love with the mugen mbx5 though it looks wery nice..

did you build yours wasnt it a rtr?

Send me your e-mail or post it then you can join us att msn :)

[Blaster]

Lofreq - before you convert yourself to the "dark side of the Force" with a buggy (kidding :D ) please help your old friends: does this body shell you bought - the Focus one - fits on LMs? If positive who is the manucaturer and what is the price - cheaper than kyosho?:D

[l0freq]

mr hung :)

car came in like 50 little plastic bags totally in bits... assembled it all, was much fun i enjoyed it :) as u can see from my album (http://www.defy.net.nz/lofreq/pics/RC%20Stuff/031023%20-%20new%20sinyih%20RC%20ford%20focus/)... it was cheaper that the RTR kit, plus it came with many more hopups as standard!


mr blaster :)

the body will definitely fit on the LM's - the wheelbase is of course exactly right, however the width is totally too wide - since it is designed to work on the buggys with the longer arms and huger wheels... i guess you can change to bigger rims and it would be ok? somehow make the LM wider?

there are 4 rally bodies to choose from (http://www.robsrchobbies.com/1_8_scale_rally_cars) - they look awkward in these pictures i think they are ooold pics and poor scans/gaudily painted... but actually not too bad in real life... really huge tho so its cool. and, they are almost half the price of the kyosho ones!!! (eg, Kyosho LM evo7 body here is NZ$145, the Sinyih ford focus body was NZ$80!!!)

i'll put the focus body on my LM and take pics so you get a sense of the scale and proportions (or disproportions as it were) some time this week and post it up for you to see, maybe that will explain it better

[l0freq]

ps: definitely still an LM driver at heart! the new car is gonna try to be an lm as much as possible (and be as far from a stereotypical 1/8 buggy as possible!) hehe

my msn is tranquilitybass at hotmail dot com :)

[hung_kuen]

Lookin foreward to see some pics with the body on a lm:D
wouldnt hurt to make the lm wider....

[virus]

Hi there, i have now installed my new GT30 and a Rossi 9894 pipe.

What a difference these make, i thought if i put a more powerful engine in, i'll just crash the car and destroy it.

I tested it on wet tarmac, and the wheels would not stop spinning, even when i had it on a long straight, it would torque steer? Handling seemed very dodgy.

Will it handle different on dry tarmac? Are the gears too low?

[l0freq]

whoops double post! pls continue to next post :p

[l0freq]

hi fellas, well, bored lofreq on a monday nite = ass into gear to take pics

turns out i also underestimated the size of the new car... i knew it was bigger than the LM but not that much bigger! i mean, the LM already dwarfs the usual 1:10 racers around... but this thing..

well, click here to see. (http://www.defy.net.nz/lofreq/pics/RC%20Stuff/031117%20-%20rc%20body%20comparisons/index.html)

i didnt really sit down and figure out the best angles to compare them, so do forgive me. i can take more angles if necessary. but hopefully you get the idea. LM is terribly width challenged here... needs BIG rims and WIIIDE stance to work. basically youd have to swap to inferno arms and driveshafts and rims, but then youd have an MP5 so... heh.

i dunno. what do u reckon?

heres one of the pics:
http://www.defy.net.nz/lofreq/pics/RC%20Stuff/031117%20-%20rc%20body%20comparisons/031117%20-%20rc%20body%20comparisons%2010.JPG

ps: virus.... sounds like youre gonna need to silicone your diffs to combat that torque steer. as i remember, a proven setup for dry tarmac was 7000wt front, 5000 center, 3000 rear. personally i dont see what the problem is with your new constant wheelspin haha that is my aim with these things!

[hung_kuen]

Virus - the lm isnt exatly known fore its grip:D please tell me how it went if you decide to put silicone in your diffs.


10freq- A bit bigger then i thaught:D looks like you need a buggy so you can use the wing mount as well.
I am getting a kanai 3 now from japan:D :D its gona cost me a shitload of cash but im gonna do it i think.
so when i get that im gonna buy me one off those boddys,looks good

[Blaster]

Lofreq - thanks for the pics. Seems that we will have to keep searching for lower cost bodies to our LMs:D Your buggy is huge.

I agree. It doesn't worth to buy wider arms and axles to make the body fit on a LM. Better get an inferto RTR. But in this case we can get at least 4 new Kyosho bodies to our LMs. So...:(

Please send us some vids of your new car when you have it ready. See'ya on MSn!

Hung - we are just curious to see also your vids when you put your hands in your buggy and start to jump with it.:rolleyes:

[Blaster]

Well, here are my pics....

[Blaster]

more...

[Blaster]

Hey, seems here is a 3D aluminum clutch...

[Blaster]

The VoltWatch metter and stabilizer bars...

[hung_kuen]

Your lm looks awsome man:eek: :eek: :eek:
did you feel a big difference with those stabilizer bars.
how mutch were they?

[Jimmy33]

hurry up and paint it man i wano see it as I ave an old thuder tiger EB4 S2 which would do with a new body! :D :D :D :D :D

[Blaster]

Hung - on wide and large open tracks it handles better with stab bars. Cornering becomes even better....:D

The prices are here (http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXVD33&P=Z ) and here (http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXVD11&P=M)

We should plan some races together :D [

[hung_kuen]

Blaster- They werent to expensive either:) We could to some races together if you decide to buy Real race 2 ... would be nice,jeroen is getting soon.

A dumb question to the end,what do people mean by "flame out"?

[KIRK S. DECKER]

"Flameout": your engine unexpectedly quits running....now what caused the "flameout"? that is the big question:)

[Blaster]

Kirk - thanks for share your knowledge with us

Hung - are you having problems with your engine? As for Real Race 2 I will try to get if from Santa, next Dec 25...:D

Guys - I changed my flywheel to a 3 shoe alu cluth on my LM2. As I use a OS .21VZ-B in this car I do not have a pull start. Use the starter box become a little weird, as this new flywheel stays almost hidden inside the chassis. Anybody has any clue to help me on this? Sometimes when I want to start my car the rubber wheel of start box almost smells "burned" after hit the chassis a few times.:confused:

[jeroen]

Hi blaster.

You should have bought this flywheel: http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXU229&P=7 when using a O.S engine,its thicker and bigger.
(I didn't knew that you were using a O.S,and also 1 without pullstart)

But I think when you dremel the chassis flywheel hole a bit more,then it could work better.

I hope I'll have realrace G2 also around santa time :D

:( I can't drive my LM for over 3 weeks now,cause it always is wet/raining in weekends :( Damn Holland :mad:

[Blaster]

Hello Jeroen! Nice to see you here:D

I am using this flywheel (http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXVD48&P=7) which has 34mm diameter versus the 37.9mm of the one you suggested. I am afraid that even your suggested flywheel will not have enough external diameter to be well propelled by starter box. :(

I was using a vsepel clutch with a 2 shoe flywheel. But this 3 piece alu is way much better. :) Anyway will still use this alu one until figure out another option or buy the one you suggested now.:D

Hope Santa help me with the Real Race 2....;) :D

[hung_kuen]

I will give santa a heart to heart talk and he will understand your needs fore RealRace2 during winter time:D

[Jimmy33]

yay nearly the holidays which means its time get the Landmax out properly again :D :cool:

But my body STILL HASNT COME!!!!!!!
:(

Ahh well at least i have the chassis so i can get the working properly and run in my OS engine properly...
oh small question
what make of fuel are all you guys running - i was just wondering!

Keep rallying guys!

Jimbo

[hung_kuen]

Jimmy- i run Model Technics 16% on my os rgx (p)
it works wery well.

Model Technics are the blend kyosho votes fore and the only brand my lhs carrys so my choise is simpel
:)

[jeroen]

I personally do not like model technics(only for brake in my LHS recomments it)the smoke is containing too much oil,so tha car gets more dirty!

I run Tornado 16% extra oil formula,my engines do run nice on this fuel
http://www.tornado-products.com/htm/carsfuels2.htm

[Blaster]

I personally use Wild Cat Fuel (http://www.wildcatfuel.com). I use the their Helimix fuel, which is most used for Hellicopters. I assume that if such a complex macine uses this fuel, why not try on my cars. Use with synthetic 18% oil and 15% nitro. :D

Take a look on their fuel options (http://www.wildcatfuel.com/fuel.html).

[hung_kuen]

I have the flu:mad: pain in my hole body.

[virus]

Hi there, i just purchased an old O.S. Max .21 RX anyone have any specs on this, it has the blue head, like the RZ or RV?
Is this engine any good?
thanks

[Blaster]

Virus - find information about your engine is very hard!

The .21RX line was discontinued. Are you sure of the name? Do you have cat# (like OSMG****)? It is more helpfull than this preffix...

The only OS engine with RX preffix I found was .21 RX-R, OSMG2065. It has a blue head and a pump (which is nice) and plenity of power. I would like to have one of these. Click on first link of Tech Notes session (http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXCF35&P=M) .

Hope it helps...:p

[Jimmy33]

YAY my schooby shell arrived 2day!
:D :D :D :D :D :D
what colour should i do it
i so like the works scheme...


:rolleyes: :cool:

[virus]

Thanks Blaster, i think RX-R is on road and RX-B is Buggy ( off road) been looking on tower's website and the parts look real expensive ie carb, piston sleeve.
Does thsi mean it's a comp engine? As i havn't got it yet i can't really say much, will let the gang know how it performs.
But if anyone have any info/ spec i'll appriciate it
thanks

[Unobjectionable]

the rx dates from 1991 or so on the OS timeline (http://osengines.com/history/ostimeline01.html), they don't have ratings for the older engines on their site, but when i did some looking around for the same info before (i have an rx-b) i found a quote of 2.2hp @ 32k rpm...dunno about that, but it was THE hot racing engine back then

not entirely sure what the difference is/was between the different B and R versions (probably just the crank), but all the older OS engines including these were ABN (nickel plated sleeve) instead of ABC, so they won't last as long as a more modern ABC engine, and the replacement parts are ungodly expensive as you noted ($80 for piston/sleeve last time i looked), so the best bet is to just enjoy it until you wear it out, then get it squeezed or put it on the shelf to look at...hehe

hope everybody (and their landmaxii) are doing well, i have been enjoying all the great pics and videos lately

[Blaster]

Unobjectionable - nothing like talk with a pro. :D I was really curious about this RX engine, after search for it to Virus. After the research I found it was a great engine - rear pump, more than 2Hp - more than 12 years ago. Guess why OS come back and reduced the HP on his engines after the RX...:confused:


Virus - we want to see pics and vids of your LM with such a mill:p

[virus]

Yes definately as soon as i install the new engine, i will do a vid and post it somewhere, thanks for all the input gang

[1 Bad STi]

do any of you guys have carb. parts for GS .21 Old style?

[jeroen]

Yes I have all parts

But do you want them,shipping from my place will cost atleast $10
Parts will be free :D

[1 Bad STi]

Jereon- Just looking for a carb, I have an Old Force Carb on it right now. What all do you have? I have a Landmax 1, do you have any extra parts for that? thanks! Ben

[Landmax2B]

Hello Again...

I have been pretty busy with the new racecar, school, etc, but I still want to have a new landmax project maybe next year.

Has anyone taken the LM2 on any rougher terrains?

I was thinking about getting an Hpi SNR, but its tiny compared to what a landmax can be made into.

I remember when I had my LM1 it was not too great on even grass over like 3" high, it was awesome on prepared surfaces, fine gravel, and of course asphalt.

I did run it on a "rock" road a couple times and it had some trouble, however i sold it pretty quickly and nevergot a chance to really play with it.

What have people done to make it have enough clearance for rougher terrain, or has everyone stuck to short grass,pavement and small pebble surfaces?

I am debating what I should get and can't decide what to do.

I was considering monster truck, but after really thinking about it, it would get lame pretty quick. Then i thought about getting a strictly onroad car, but I would be limited to good pavement to really be able to push the car.

So I of course came back to the Landmac option, for which I have already designed some parts, including a cage to go under the body incase of rollovers and flips. I am going to make it a pretty intense project, and with all the facilities and materials I have access to, I can make some pretty awesome stuff for the car...Which was why i like the 1/8th size.

I just don't wantto spend $750 on equipment and end up having something I can't really run on prepared paths in the woods.

I was also thinking about a stadium truck, something like the HPI Nitro MT, but then I would still be stuck with something that is not really good in one specific field, just decent in a bunch.

So what are peoples opinions?

I am pretty sure monster truck is out of the question, and the other options are LM2 and a Stadium style truck.

I am leaning heavily on the Lm2, which is why I wanted to ask you guys (and girls hopefully).

Has anyone else really taken on a serious project other then that one guy who made a bunch of aluminum chassis parts?

COnsidering the car, radio, and all the equipment (batteries, chargers, statring equipment, engine accessories, etc) is going to be around $750 I wanted to make sure this was the right decision.

[Landmax2B]

After doing some more research, looks like I'll have the best luck with the HPI NItro MT2. Lots of parts, support and they are cheap.

Sorry, landmax2b is now nitromt2b :)

[Unobjectionable]

hmmm...the NMT2 isn't a stadium truck, its a 1:10 RTR monster truck (with rebadged toki .15), and you can get their (1:8) savage ss kit (with rebadged force .25) for the same price (less the crappy electronics of course)...btw, the SNR is/was just a NMT1 with smaller tires and bigger body, ask SixViSix6Six about that one...dunno if the quality of the NMT2 is improved any...

you might consider ebay regardless of which way you decide to go, especially since you are talking project vehicle... i paid less than half of tower's price for my slightly used LM2 (more money for upgrades! ehehe) and that included servos, rx and nice rx pack...

just as an aside for anyone curious, the LM1 does/can have significantly more ground clearance then the LM2...the downtravel on the LM2 is limited somewhat by the design of the a-arms and carriers which is not the case with the LM1...they are both hindered by the crap shorty shocks they come with though, but thats the first thing any LM owner should upgrade...

i have fitted my LM2 with the long IFW-31 shocks all around using the K2/K3 shock towers and it will work fine, but it is a bit of a waste since it can't really use all the available shock travel...not a big deal since the main reason i am using the long shocks is because i got an unbeatable deal on em (ebay again)...the irony is that i got the LM2 to use as my offroad basher, so i could use the (higher geared) LM1s as onroad only cars, and will of course have to limit the hell out of the LM1 suspension to avoid scraping the bodies on the pavement during hard turns...hehe

the LM2 is probably better suited to offroad stuff anyway though, since the design and plastics are stronger, and the 7.5 parts are fairly cheap and readily available on ebay...

p.s. hope everybody had a nice holiday!

[Landmax2B]

Well HPI has always had quality stuff, even back in the day when I had that insane "racer."

However I just feel the Landmax would be a money pit, where as the NMT2 could be built and just run, smaller engine, lower costs, small in general, and there are some amazing parts already out there.

Considering for under $750 I can have a very tricked out car, with high end radio, servo's, all nicd batteries, plus all hardware and equipment, comparedto the $1200 or so I priced out for the landmax stuff I would need... and the landmax would not be as offroad savy as this would be...

So basically it looks like if I did anything, the nrt2 would be the way to go.

I like that 4wd "stadium truck" style though, and that looks to be the best one around.

Any other ideas?

[Blaster]

Landmax2B - on Tower you can get a brand new LM2 with 3PDF FM plus 2 3305 servos for $589.00. :p So if money is a concern, it might help.:D When you compare a 1:10 stadium truck made by HPI with a 1:8 car made by Kyosho you must consider (aside the obvious diferences in sizes) the quality of the parts used on both.

I agree with Unobjectionable that on E-bay you'll find even better deals. You should have in mind that LM2 is almost the Kanai/Inferno buggy that have been winning off road championships for many years now. The susp. arms are shorter but the off road capability is very good for it's purpose. But for rock climbing consider a monster truck...;) Besides that, I'll go for LM2 with no doubt!:D

Another point: you mentiones earlier on your post you have a project for LM2. Will you do a project for a small truck? Enjoy your new car - whatever it will be!

[Unobjectionable]

so let me make sure i have this straight...you want something with the following qualities:

1. 1:8 scale (big)
2. small in general (small)
3. able to go through 3" or taller grass and fairly rough terrain (a truck)
4. performance that is identical or superior to more specialized cars/trucks on whatever surface (not a truck)
5. inexpensive to buy and operate (wrong hobby)

i don't think there is such a thing...

you should probably decide if you want a car or a truck, and how much power and speed you want it to be capable of, and go from there...from what you are telling me, you want everything with no compromises, and as an engineering student, you know it just doesn't work that way (hehe)...

[Landmax2B]

Well see I have had just about every r/c car, so I have experienced the high end of each genre. I had a rc10gt, scratch built clod, $2500 HPI racer that competed and did well, Landmax1, etc etc I could go on for a while.

But those qualities you mentioned is not what I said,you kind of twisted the wording around hehe.

Basically getting something purely onroad is out of the question because I am almost never able to get access or time to get to really nice flat pavement for onroad, so thats out of the question.

Monster trucks was something i was looking into, but they just ask for bashing, which means parts WILL break, no matter how tough you build it, its still going t get damaged, and on those big trucks that can mean problems. I had one accident with the RC10GT that was spectacular, I was running a moddified rebuilt 0s .15 and the thing took a funny bounce, throttle got stuck, went across a field riht under my car!!! Engine broke in half, chassis bent, it was a mess...$300 later it was running again with a new engine, haha.

I'm not too fond of buggies, because they were designed to be run rather low, as thier intent is for those prepared surfaces to race on. I won't be racing, since I'll be busy racing my real racecar, but I just want a little somethin-somethin to mess with and design/fab some parts for. I can draw up a dozen parts over a weekend in Solidworks, and have them waterjetted in under an hour for just a couple bucks.

Figure the Landmax rolling chassis I can get used (since i am replacing many parts) for $250, engine will be $250, radio/seroes/batteries/charger will be $400, parts to replace on the chassis will be about $300. So thats $1200 easy right there, and then add fuel equipment, spare parts...you can see how my HPI Racer was $2500 lol, somelucky bastard got my whole HPI racer team for $650!!!! He must be having a blast with that thing.

Anyways back to the tpoic at hand. I just see for under $750 I can really do up a NMT nicely, including equipment and whatnot. So that seems like the best choice. Drop a nice .15 italian offroad engine in, get all the chassis redone, and it'll be a nice bashing around truck.

I just think the LM2 project would get me more frustrated then anything, and I would be stuck not driving it as much. And as much fun as it is fixing and designing parts (since it will be my career doing that on racecars), from mypast many years in R/c Nitro, it got old for me fast.

So I think if I were to do any project NMT2 is where I would go.

[Unobjectionable]

heheh...didn't mean to give you a hard time about it...i was about half asleep

i know what you mean about the money pit factor, hard to justify so much $$$ for a damn TOY CAR...hahaha

good luck with your project...just be sure to strip that horrible purple!

[Landmax2B]

I'll be ditching that chassis entirely, and either make a new one of get one of those titanium ones.

Also I found that Megatech makes aluminum gearboxes forit as well.

When going from real cars to r/c cars, its pretty funny to see parts are like $10-50 that I am normally used to like $3-5K for haha. So in this perspective it seems very cheap, haha.

I think I can just have more fun with the NMT then a LM2, and less hassle basically, when it all said and done.

Maybe if the Landmax was another inch higher (ground clearnace) and another inch wider, it might be siutable, but from what i remember from the LM1 project I started and sold fast, it wasmore hassle then fun. NMt2 racer looks like a better project, smaller, lighter, and with the HPI .18ss engine, it should be pretty nasty. Then i can safely go down wooded paths, rock roads, and I can always slap on some truck Slicks and throw it on pavement :)

Landmax is just too much for prepared surfaces for me...Maybe if I was racing it at tracks, thats another story, but for bashing, this truck looks like it'll be fun.

[1 Bad STi]

My whip..

[1 Bad STi]

Mostly stock expect for 2-speed and O.S. RG motor (non-pull).

[Unobjectionable]

looking good...gotta love the two speed with a nice engine behind it

[jeroen]

Originally posted by 1 Bad STi
Jereon- Just looking for a carb, I have an Old Force Carb on it right now. What all do you have? I have a Landmax 1, do you have any extra parts for that? thanks! Ben

I have all engine parts include a orginal carb.

I like the yellow body.

Man this forum is moving,big replies from some of the biggest LM freaks on the planet :D
All I can say,go with the car you will work best for your /purpose project.

[Landmax2B]

haha, thanks.

Yea I get carried away sometimes.

Anyways looks like I will go with the Nitro mt racer next year, drop in a conservative engine like the HPI .18ss, 1.5hp, quality and good supoport. And then get all the chassis components, a bunch of titanium parts from powerline, gearboxes from megatech, etc etc etc.

[uDi_MP75]

Originally posted by Landmax2B
Well HPI has always had quality stuff, even back in the day when I had that insane "racer."

However I just feel the Landmax would be a money pit, where as the NMT2 could be built and just run, smaller engine, lower costs, small in general, and there are some amazing parts already out there.

been there done that.

Lets take it one by one. HPI has NEVER had quality stuff. It's always been junk. There's been a few exceptions to the rule in the way of the proceed, some of the mini's perhaps... etc. But when it comes to NMT's... no thankies. You've got things the wrong way around. An NMT has been and always will be a money pit. 95% of HPI kits are. Back when I was with an nmt, they were quickly reaching t-maxx status in the moneypit race.

A landmax offroad is obviously not going to compare to an nmt. It's apples an oranges - a landmax is an inferno made for rallying. Make the comparison a little closer, take an inferno or something, throw it against the nmt..... and the nmt is kicked into the ground, stepped on, spat on, and utterly annihilated.

The nmt2 might be a little improved, but still - once a piece of junk, always a piece of junk. Eg, with these new Rush evo's.... no one with half a brain is going to take one over an RC10 or something.

If your going to baby it around, stick to offroad driving, and plan on keeping the thing planted and not hitting anything along the way - sure the NMT2 will be right down your alley. But if you want something that will actually take a beating, that won't break an arm, bend a dogbone, and snap an outdrive the first time you accidently cartwheel it - a lower end inferno might be the ticket.

The new RTR 7.5's are actually very nice kits, and if you look around on ebay you can get them quite reasonably cheap. Comes with a neat steering servo as well. All you'd want is a Nimh pack/charger and you'd be set. Alternatively you could look for a good deal on used regular/kanai kits on ebay... occasionally you find awesome deals.

I've probably stuck my foot on the HPI too much, but I want to clear up this misconception that the kits are not money pits. They actually need bags of dough poured into them before they can take anywhere near as much abuse as say a bug.

jmo
excuse the nasty and off topic post
-uDi

[Landmax2B]

I've had Tamiya, Kyosho, Hpi, Duratrax, traxxas, etc...Hpi by far had the best quality. I had a Landmax1 and sold it within a month, it was built like crap, and i would have had to do MAJOR redesigning to make it handle and have the abilities that a Scale Rally car should have.

I have seen some videos of NMt racers with a couple hopups, and they were beaten to death, flipped, cartwheeled, rammed into walls, and they had nothing happen to them. And with all the titanium parts powerline has, plus the parts I would make/design, I only see the actual wheels as a possbility for stress to arise, more specifically the axles, but I got some ideas for that too...you'll have to wait for the project to get started to see though. Already have a Cage designed in Solidworks, and parts sourced out fora LM2 Project so it would be nice.

I was also thinking about an Inferno Buggy, But I still don't see it going in offroad places like the NMt2 would be able to go.

Also the NMt2 would be considerably lighter, and even using a small block .18, I bet it would keep up with a mp7.5 on track orjust messing around. The inferno is great, had some experience with the mp6 back in the day, but even with modification it could not go as offroad as the nmt can, based on the structure alone, let alone its physical limitations.

Theres going to be a lot of work to do on the Nmt2, but it will be labor and design work, notso much money. With the large inferno, I'll need a big engine, which means a lot more strain on the drivetrain, and that means its going to put the stress back on the engine over time...and as you know they are not cheap, I have access to the best machinery and tools around...but for me to make engine parts...it would not be very cost effective...making chassis parts and suspension components on the other hand, I can probably make quite a few, however they are so cheap nowadays I can probably buy 3 spares and still break even.

Anyways back to the main topic at hand here, which would be better for general bashings, having fun, and to base a project off: After my 'research' (haha) I have come to the conclusion that the Nmt is the way to go. If I was building something to race on prepared surface, Kanai 3 would be my choice...But I dont have time for that, i'm going to be to busy doing real racing to go and race a toy. This is just for those days off, free weekends, and just messing around.

This way I can go onroad, offroad, not have a problem, and go on some pretty rough rock roads and terrain and not be worried about the thing flipping over too easy.

[SixVi6-Camaro]

Do more building of a super custom RC and less endless talking about building a custom Rc.

[Landmax2B]

WEll before spending the $ I wanted to justify the decision with peoples experiences.

And considering I got some time until I will be free to do this, I felt this would be a godplaceto ask.

Currently I am finishing up a real racecar for this upcoming season to race, so thats taking my free time, aside from school and the FSae race team at school.

[Unobjectionable]

i wasn't gonna say it

[Landmax2B]

Haha Alright I'll keep to myself then ;)

Thanks anyways

Happy holidays

[Unobjectionable]

tough crowd eh? i can't say much as my projects are going on 2 years now...heh

[Landmax2B]

Whatever, I got two real race car projects, M3 ltw and fsae....add in junior/senior year at one of the toughest engineering schools in the united states, and that leaves no free time with next season of racing comingup quick.

[Blaster]

SixVi6 - nice to see you back. And great you appeared to say wise words.

Landmax2b - great you decided what RC you want. :D We would like to see pics of your projects when you finish your real races activities, if you have time.:p Good to know that you also have engineering background.:rolleyes:

1 Bad Sti - very nice looking car. The volt watch stuff realy help, huh!:D

Jeroen - we miss your pics, mate.:D

uDi - good points.

As the matter here is the LM, please let me share some new pics of my cars - http://www.******.net/member/Blaster . (please change the 6 stars (*) for the word: r c p i c s - without spaces)

[Landmax2B]

Hehe, there will always be racing activities.

[SixVi6-Camaro]

I don't mean to offend ya landmax2b but you come across as an intense thinker. I am the same and many times sit and think myself out of doing many RC projects, paintings, and writings. many times end up not doing anything at all. There is alot to be said about just making up your mind and jumping into it especially when it comes to an RC project because at this scale its not big deal if it doens't turn out perfect because its small and relativly inexpensive. My best creations are those that have been spontaneous with my RC projects, paintings, and writings which I think of all in much the same vein. Heck I said to myself,"I'm going to build a custom 4 link chassis for my Clod." two months of reading books on 1:1 4 lins and asking opinions aobut RC 4 links and I was ready to quit. then I just jumped on it and 2 weeks later using a dremel, hack saw, and files I had this (http://home.comcast.net/~exsells/customclod_07.jpg) its not all that pretty but I learned 10x more building it than I did from any book, web site, or picture. just my opinion..

[1 Bad STi]

Thanks for the complements, A father and son team always make it best.

[Landmax2B]

SixVi6, No offense taken at all. I am like that too. I just finshed some body work and a bunch of fabrication on some stuff I designed for my racecar.

I actually too built ascratch built Clod when I was 14. I got a box of parts from a relative, and in it was a clod in peices! So I looked up, did some research, ordered some parts to complete the transmission, and fabricated an aluminum chassi, with the same suspension you did. However I went a bit further to see how far I could push the envelope (at 14 mind you). I use two speed controllers, Two motors,and depending on conditions, 12-18 batteries! This thing weighed 14lbs with all the batteries in it! Car alone only weighs 7.5lbs, which is very light for these custom clods. I ended up selling the thing for $375... Net profit of about $250when all said and done.

Anyways I might be trading some stuff I got laying around for a NItro Mt, so project might start soon :)

[Unobjectionable]

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[uDi_MP75]

Landmax2B - I hate to offend, but if you are so experienced and know so much, why bother asking? There is no point asking for opinions if all your going to do is justify how they are incorrect.

I'll rephrase my definition of quality - the nmt had a decent platform design, all parts went together well, instructions were excellent - but wheres the beef? crappy skinny arms, garbage cast ally diffs, bendy doggies, cartwheel-to-snap outdrives.... thats where hpi failed.

I was posting my experiences with the nmt, which were horrible. The guys you are seing either have fairly hopped up machines, aren't driving very hard, or are just plain lucky. With an inferno you don't need luck - I honestly can't see someone going from an inferno buggy to an NMT - and being anywhere near as happy.

Your comments about drivetrain stress is a complete load - compare a stock inferno drivetrain to a stock nmt drivetrain and the difference in ability to handle power abuse is so large it's not worth talking about. 21 buggy engines are made for the purpose (DUH!) so I don't know how the drivetrain could stress the engine out. True you'll need more money in the engine to propel a good buggy, but it's nice to know the car can handle it. Back in the nmt1 days, you could barely drop a CVR in without stripping the diffs clean a month later.

For no purpose, i'll say here that an LM2 is going to be a lot nicer than the LM1 - considering the LM1 is based on the MP5 chassis, and the LM2 is on the 7.5 sports.

I'll just pray for your sake that the second release of the nmt is a little more than a little better than the first.

that's my last post on the topic, I feel like i'm invading where I shouldn't be.
Good luck.
uDi

[Landmax2B]

No Offense taken, I AM trying to justify my opinion/feelings, to makeme feel better about the timespent, haha.

Anyways I'll keep looking into it. But basically the Inferno would cost more to get to a level I would be satisfied at.

I'll see, its not something i'm going to go crazy about, once i get back to school and get going with fsae and racing again I wont have time eitherway.

Well time for bed, peace y'all

[1 Bad STi]

FSAE, rock on! Fellow member here:D

[tranced]

I'm sorry but you are the most ignorant and self-contradictory person I have ever witnessed on the internet. Your comments about HPI amaze me. What's more, your comments about the LANDMAX1 AMAZE ME. Go back to school.

Originally posted by Landmax2B
I've had Tamiya, Kyosho, Hpi, Duratrax, traxxas, etc...Hpi by far had the best quality. I had a Landmax1 and sold it within a month, it was built like crap, and i would have had to do MAJOR redesigning to make it handle and have the abilities that a Scale Rally car should have.

I have seen some videos of NMt racers with a couple hopups, and they were beaten to death, flipped, cartwheeled, rammed into walls, and they had nothing happen to them. And with all the titanium parts powerline has, plus the parts I would make/design, I only see the actual wheels as a possbility for stress to arise, more specifically the axles, but I got some ideas for that too...you'll have to wait for the project to get started to see though. Already have a Cage designed in Solidworks, and parts sourced out fora LM2 Project so it would be nice.

I was also thinking about an Inferno Buggy, But I still don't see it going in offroad places like the NMt2 would be able to go.

Also the NMt2 would be considerably lighter, and even using a small block .18, I bet it would keep up with a mp7.5 on track orjust messing around. The inferno is great, had some experience with the mp6 back in the day, but even with modification it could not go as offroad as the nmt can, based on the structure alone, let alone its physical limitations.

Theres going to be a lot of work to do on the Nmt2, but it will be labor and design work, notso much money. With the large inferno, I'll need a big engine, which means a lot more strain on the drivetrain, and that means its going to put the stress back on the engine over time...and as you know they are not cheap, I have access to the best machinery and tools around...but for me to make engine parts...it would not be very cost effective...making chassis parts and suspension components on the other hand, I can probably make quite a few, however they are so cheap nowadays I can probably buy 3 spares and still break even.

Anyways back to the main topic at hand here, which would be better for general bashings, having fun, and to base a project off: After my 'research' (haha) I have come to the conclusion that the Nmt is the way to go. If I was building something to race on prepared surface, Kanai 3 would be my choice...But I dont have time for that, i'm going to be to busy doing real racing to go and race a toy. This is just for those days off, free weekends, and just messing around.

This way I can go onroad, offroad, not have a problem, and go on some pretty rough rock roads and terrain and not be worried about the thing flipping over too easy.

[tranced]

How could the inferno cost more to get at a level you'd be satisfied with? Are you saying the NMT2 is at a higher level?
I am willing to bet you that everyone here is laughing their asses off at your expense. You said it yourself, $2500 into an HPI. Get a clue.

While you're at it, pick up a TR-15 instead. Your wallet will thank the **** out of you.

Originally posted by Landmax2B
No Offense taken, I AM trying to justify my opinion/feelings, to makeme feel better about the timespent, haha.

Anyways I'll keep looking into it. But basically the Inferno would cost more to get to a level I would be satisfied at.

I'll see, its not something i'm going to go crazy about, once i get back to school and get going with fsae and racing again I wont have time eitherway.

Well time for bed, peace y'all

[Blaster]

Landmax2B - I guess all information and doubts shared here, intended to add knowledge about RC Gas Cars and specifically about Kyosho LM1 and 2, is very welcome.

Your first post was to get opinions about LM2. You went to the right place!!!

After, you shared with us all your genious abilities (since 14), mentioned all your experience with your god'ol RCs, expressed your disappointment with LM1, condemned the Kanai buggy, justified the investment of $2,500.00 on a HPI and wrote that you use to spend $3-5K in parts to real car.

Besides that you shared with us you are an engineer (me either, but it doesn't make us better drivers or have more knowledge about RC cars than anybody here.) now focused on real race cars and on a project of a NMt2 that will be the Kanai killer. God save Muggen...

Man, you seems to have all the answers. What you expect from people here?:confused:


Unobjectionable - nice car body! Got it NIB?

[Landmax2B]

I be is confuzed

[KIRK S. DECKER]

SixVi6 is pretty much on the mark about projects. I continue to follow this forum but dont post much anymore until I can put the my money where my mouth is (was). My "project" is still coming along, but still has aways to go. Designing parts that work "just right" is tough and takes TIME (of course Im do not have an engineering degree). Well my big hold up has been life in general. Job+wife +house+ exercise (to keep grim reeper away for us older guys) + all other obligations = minimal time to work on "toy" car. There have been so many nights after work where I would have been rather milling out some A-arms for the L-max rather than sanding and refinishing a floor or piping in a new heatboiler but thaat is life. I promise that sooner or later I will come though and produce my ultimate l-max but until then Ill probably talk little about it:)

[Blaster]

Landmax2b - ?

Kirk - we love to see new projects. Please share some pics when you have them...;)

Folks - I found some great deals on Kyosho tires to LM at Tower for around $16 a pair! :D Check here. (http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXV594&P=0) Rally ones can be found here. (http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXV618&P=0)

[uDi_MP75]

tranced - they say ignorance is bliss, but i'm still waiting on the bliss part..

Kirk - if its about putting your money where your mouth is, that dude from norway with the LM1 crossed Hyper7 with a good percentage of the original parts custom machined.... he sure had it covered. I was quite wonderstruck when I saw that project begin, and further amazed as I saw it reaching completion. Good luck on yours, and hope you get some more time.

does anyone remember the link to that guys site, or what his forum name was? he used to hang around at maxxtraxx but he's not at the new forums. I first saw his work at the nitroreview.com forums, I might look there again. I'd kill to get my hands on his landmax, I really would.

LM2B - you being so smart, i'm surprised at your inability to unravel some simple broken english. I think Blaster made some good points.

I'll not be a jackass - and reccomend you look at any 7.5 you can afford and throw some sin-yih truck wheels and tyres on it, if chomping up the offroad is what you need/want. PM me if you need pic/link details.

If the nmt2 is your car of choice, go for it, live and learn, whatever. Just for my sake though, don't bring up any Inferno vs HPI truck discussions. It's unwise. I likely know a little more about this comparison than yourself, regardless of your little life history post.

Better to keep silent and be thought a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.

[uDi_MP75]

Pretty sure you've all seen it. but in case anyone hadn't, or if a refresher is needed... I uploaded the latest pics of it I had on my hardrive. These are from months (and months?) ago, but it was mostly complete then anyway so I don't think it would have changed much since then.

Thorbob's LM1. Custom machined chassis, arms, uprights/hubs maybe, custom graphite sideplates, many hyper7 buggy parts, the list goes on.

http://server5.uploadit.org/files2/301203-f_lh2.jpeg
http://server5.uploadit.org/files2/301203-steering1.jpeg
http://server5.uploadit.org/files2/301203-ho_f3.jpeg

[Unobjectionable]

9 out of 10 choosy mothers choose:

http://www.thorbob.com/rally_project_intro.htm

[Madaz]

Good to see so much activity here. Hope everyone had a happy new year.

i havent been posting since i got a inferno7.5sport so my hyper21 was swapped over to that. but the LM1 still runs since i put the OLD GS21 blue head back in it. I think the LM will be laid to rest with only the odd drive to keep off the cobwebs. The thing is quite worn out now, steering joints all loose, cracks in the chassis. even the dogbones are rusty!!! (i did buy it second/hand off ebay)

Heres a picture of my brothers lm project. i think hes going for the "mad-max landmax".
note the ingenious use of the engine cooling fan.

[Blaster]

Madaz - nice to have you back! We miss your crazy vids and pics...:D How that fan works in the front of the car?:rolleyes:

uDi - man, it is not just a car. It is a piece of art! Thanks for share the pics.:D

Unobjectionable - Thorbob has a well done site and car! Thanks for share. I would like to know what was the choice of the only choosy mother that didn't choose this site...:D

[Unobjectionable]

hehehe

that is a great pic, as always...MadazPics™ always look like the car is flying

i'm not sure what that fan is doing either, but im sure its just as useful up front as it is mounted back by the engine (which is to say, no good at all..eheh)

[mundenbk]

Hello all!!!

I have read the entire thread and damn you guys know alot. I will be getting my LM2 in the mail shortly. I do have a couple questions in regards to it though.

1. Are the 2 speed trannies the same? What is the difference between the rally versus 7.5 standard.

2. Ofna hex adapters WILL allow the use of buggy rims and tires? I know this has been beat to death but never a firm reply on the board.

3. Are there any other companies than the one mentioned previously that sales sheets/composite carbon fibre for DIY projects. I search the net but all I get is carbon fiber rolls.

BTW the Landmax will team up nicely with the other children, Savage, Nitro MT, Nitro Rally, F201, HPI F1, Corally F1, RS4 Micro, and Mini-t. And yes the wife is getting pissed off.

Thanks

Brian

[Unobjectionable]

hi brian

the trannies are different, GT-30 for LM1 and GTW-20 for LM2...the big difference being that everything on the 7.5/LM2 is smaller and mounted lower...the LM2 (aka 7.5 rally) is built off the 7.5 sports (the low end version)

the ofna adapters should work, (part #86000) but the tires might rub on the manifold (depending on the tires and the manifold i guess, i havent tried it)...and it will look kinda goofy...hehe

penguin rc sells CF sheets, in various thicknesses

http://www.penguinrc.com/products/other/graphiteplate.shtml

just explain to your wife that toys are NECESSARY...heheh

[mundenbk]

Instead of the two speed tranny @ 115USD, would it be cheaper to build the three speed (need part numbers though) and go from there. I understand that the three speed tranny will be insane to handle :) , but I was then thinking about dropping in a four stroke (lower RPM but better torque). You guys have tinkered with these for quite awhile so you inputs would definately help out on this one.

Thanks

Brian

[Unobjectionable]

the three speed would be around $150 to build from parts (at towers prices anyway)...it is actually the GTW-20 two speed with an extra gear...here (http://***********/gp20/3-speed-parts.txt) is a link to the list of parts for it that i whipped up a while back...would probably be cheaper to just get the GTW-20 and the remaining parts (third gear and hub thing etc)

there actually is a kit to mount the OS .40 in the LM2, part # GTW-50...still not available in the US as far as i know (and the .40 is now discontinued here also for some reason), but i notice you are in germany so you should be able to get your hands on one

http://***********/gp20/misc/kyo_lm2_4st.jpg

[mundenbk]

Thanks for the help.

After some quick searching, the are not discontinued, just wrong numbers. Here are the right ones if any body else wants to under-go "Operation Lighten Wallet"

O.S. FS-40S-C w/40P Carb Manufacturer Stock# 35230

Kyosho 40 4-Stroke Fitting Kit Manufacturer Stock#GTW040

I am thinking for close to five hundred dollars I can just get the two speed and another car, hehe

Thanks though

Brian

Then again, Tax season is coming awefully soon and should be get some back this year :P

[mundenbk]

Does anobody on the board here use the GMVIS Commander charger? If so, mine for some reason does not have the "Auto-charge" mode. Has everything else and seems to be working fine, but no mode. I don't know if I am doing something wrong or if it is screwed up.

Thanks again

Brian

[Unobjectionable]

very welcome

GTW-40 is the kit to fit the .40 in the LM1, has different mounts and plates...there was a different version of the .40 for cars (CX), with pullstart and different valve springs so it could pull higher rpm without floating the valves...

i agree completely about the expense, much better off with a nice .21...(but the .40 does sound really cool eheh)

sorry, not familiar with that charger...best bet is probably to post about it in the "rc electronics" folder

[Madaz]

welcome mundenbk - what shell is your lm2 coming with?
post a pic when youve painted it.

Jimmy33 what colour did you paint you subby shell in the end?
do you have a pic?

yeah the fan is for decorational purposes only.

heres my landmax from a couple of weeks back.
to get action shots i use the multi-shot function on my digicam,
you can just hold the button down whilst trying to keep the car in frame. :)

[Unobjectionable]

haha...i recognize that puddle from the video!

[Jimmy33]

hehe the shell is still at the model shop - i havent picked it up yet as there is no paint atm! :rolleyes: Ah well all in good time - nice pics btw!:D :cool:

[Blaster]

Jimmy33 - I got this site form a great friend, also listed in this forum. Dunno if you already know it but they have amazing prices and ship worldwide (a friend here in Brz already bought from them). http://www.hobbynet-jp.com/english/hobbynet.html

The GT-30 cost around US$67.00
The FS-40-CX would be US$205.00
The 3 speed´parts missing from the GTW-020 I assume would cost $80.00

If you wanna go ahead, now you habe better prices.....:D Good luck!

Madaz - you always bring us some great action pics. Do you have them all on internet?:D

[Madaz]

unfortunately i do not have a webpage yet but when/if i make one u guys will be the first to know about it :)

[jeroen]

Man that picture is of the HOOK

Very nice.

[hung_kuen]

coolest pic ive seen in a long time

[Unobjectionable]

hell yes! that is too cool

[Madaz]

thanks for the good feedback! Credit to my brothers great jumping :) i was lucky to get that photo at the right timing. Even though the jump looks perfect in the photo the car actually flipped about 6 times upon landing. :eek:

yesterday was a bad day for my gs21..... the airfilter came off 2 times while driving on the gravel !!! a small screw on the carb fell out and is lost. Also the exhaust manifold came loose and sprayed fuel all over the back of my car!!
Today i spent many hours stripping the engine to clean any grit out of the crankcase and then rebuilt it again :p

[hung_kuen]

whats upp with the fan,does it work and what is it doin upp front?
just curious....

[uDi_MP75]

sweet pic, weird it rolled though in the pic it looks like it'd land like picture perfect lol.

[maddmaxx45]

Hey, Im thinkin of putin a new engine in my Landmax 2, it already has the 2 speed, so I was thinkin of putin in the OS RG, u guy have any sugestions??, but that should be a direct drop in cuz of the shaft, right?? or not, im lookin for a motor between 100 and 150 bucks, and I mainly just bash around my house and run in parking lot, thanx guys

[hung_kuen]

You need some work with the o.s rg cause its a sg shaft and you have the 2-speed...
We have coverd it on a previous page .
I have a rg my self in my Madforce and its realy god bang for your bucks.
I dont know witch page its on but it shouldnt be to far back... hope this helps:)

[hung_kuen]

buy this http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/WTI0095P?FVSEARCH=LXCJX0+&FVPROFIL=++&search3=Go and you can use a sg shaft type engine with your 2 -speed

[Blaster]

Madaz - does this pic come along with a vid of this land?:D

Maddmaxx45 - besides the bell guide (http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/WTI0095P?FVSEARCH=LXCJX0+&FVPROFIL=++&search3=Go) you will need also the engine mount (http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXVD25&P=Z) and the spacer (http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXVD24&P=Z) . The O.S RG is agreat engine. Have fun!:p

[Unobjectionable]

are you running that part now hung? if so, did you have to shorten it any or was it a direct fit?

also, don't forget the IF109 flywheel (http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXVD26&P=Z)...can also use a three shoe setup from a few different makers (ofna, kfactory/trinity ugh) or one of the fioroni sliding clutch systems...the IF109 would be the easiest (read: cheapest) way to go since you won't need anything else...

[jeroen]

This shows they way I put on the 2 speed shaft on my engine.

http://members.lycos.nl/kyoshorccars/landmax/pictures/2.jpg

http://members.lycos.nl/kyoshorccars/landmax/pictures/3.jpg

http://members.lycos.nl/kyoshorccars/landmax/pictures/4.jpg

I just cut of the pilot shaft,and put on the 2 speed shaft.
This is the most cheap and easy way too do it

[hung_kuen]

I have sold my lm sometime ago to buy a mbx5.. I am just visiting old friends here:)

I didnt use the part myself but i think its a direct fit....
I did it another way....
I cut off a part off an old pilotshaft and used that for a bell guide,it worked perfect and was just as cheap as jeroens way...
But i would buy the bell guide and shorten it if nessesary or cut my sg shaft like jeroen did...

[Unobjectionable]

DOH! jeroen had told me you sold it and i forgot...

[Blaster]

maddmaxx45 - I used a O.S .21 VZB on my LM2 - now I am using a O.S .21 VZR - and in both cases I use the bell guide. Beside it is not the cheaper (or faster) way you save your engine to be used in cars that need SG pilot shaft. Jeroen and Hung also gave you a good alternative to a cheaper (and faster) solution. It is your call now...:D

[Unobjectionable]

heres something new, the reckward speed 2 clutch system...made in germany and soon to be available in the US...retarded expensive but very cool...fully adjustable clutch engagement, without removing the clutchbell!...also includes the bell (special one with holes in it to allow adjusting) and bearings etc...around 65€/$80...

quick note to udi, the LM1 was built off the original inferno, not the MP-5...wholly different cars for the most part (different chassis, bulkheads, center diff mount, diffs etc etc)...just sort of a general response to posts on other boards, seems to be a common misconception (fooled me too at first) not helped by RCCA saying the LM1 was based on the MP-6 in their original LM2 review (i already gave bess hell about it heheh)...

[SixVi6-Camaro]

Wow thats a wild looking clutch.. How does it adjust? Looks cool but man thats just too much money for a clutch.

[Madaz]

i was under the misconception when i first got my lm1 that it was
based on a mp6 inferno chassis. I now know that it is an inferno
DX or DXII chassis.

Jeroen do you use a starterbox? Im asking because i had the same flywheel as yours and it was terrible for use with a starterbox. It is too skinny and wore grooves in the rubber starting wheel. Then the knurled edge wore out and it always slipped on the wheel.

I got a new ofna flywheel and 4 shoe clutch now. I got the flywheel, flywheel nut, clutch shoes and springs (and it even came with 2 different size bell guides) for cheaper than the price of the kyosho skinny flywheel by itself :)

Does anyone know for sure if my lowspeed needle is too rich or
too lean? when i try to let my motor idle the revs race up as
if the idle gap is too big. I think it is too rich but im unsure?

[hung_kuen]

madaz- sounds as your low end is too lean,this can make your engine rev upp and even drive forward....

It can also be the high end if its way to lean...

Try pinching your fuel line i if it dies att once its loo lean,it should use between 3-4 sec to stop.
If it keeps struggelig forever its too rich.

hope this helps :)

[Unobjectionable]

hung is correct, the "pinch test" will get you in the ballpark (meaning close)...might also check out the paris racing (http://parisracing.com/engine_tuning_with_coversheet.htm) tuning page, should be required reading for any self respecting toy car fan (heheh)

the reckward clutch adjusts with hex wrenches inserted through the hole(s?) in the bell into those big holes in the shoes...the assembly itself is actually two pieces, though it looks like one...the distributor here will be reidrc (http://reidrc.com/techpic7.htm)...(check the link for some more tech info)...i agree it is too expensive, but supposedly the shoes last for several gallons and the performance rivals anything out there...overkill for a landmax either way, but a very cool design...the kyosho aluminum 3 shoe setup would probably cost more from tower and wouldn't last nearly as long...and i agree the ofna kits are probably the best deal going

p.s. the parisracing site has been kinda sketchy lately, if the link does not work for you wait a while and try agian

[hung_kuen]

Good site:D

[Unobjectionable]

yes, a long read but worth it

couple other things (for madaz):

could possibly be an air leak somewhere
also remember that if the top is too lean, the bottom will be too no matter how far out you crank that needle (like hung mentions)

[SixVi6-Camaro]

Wow very wild clutch. It really is overkill for anything considering the ofna 4 shoe clutch works very well. I run that clutch on my Jt Hybrid and on my hyper 7.

hehe I picked up a new engine..

http://home.comcast.net/~exsells/OPS_02.jpg

an OPS Pro Buggy engine.. Ebay $103. hehe.. I've seen this engine run on buggies and it flies. It had better fly.. Horizon sells this engine for just over $300! Now I'm unsure what to run it on.. the landmax 2, Jt hybrid, Hyper 7, or .21 RS4 3 ss. hehe..

[SavageBurn]

I am thinking of getting the Landmax2, can you guys tell me if the Lancer is the new kit or is the Subaru the latest? I looked at Tower's website but could not find the Lancer?http://www.kyosho.co.jp/rc_model/touring_rally/supereight_gp20/lancer_evo/1.gif

[uDi_MP75]

Thanks unob, was aways under the impression that lm1 was mp5 based.

[SixVi6-Camaro]

the lancer and suby LM2's are the same kit... the only difference is the body and wheels. I don't think the lancer is available in the States though or at least I've not seen it anywhere in the states. the only place I've come across the Lancer is on ebay from HK.

[SavageBurn]

I saw the Lancer kit being sold as a "ready set" on some online hobby store from Japan. "Ready set" being including radio and servos and it was more expensive than the Subaru. On the Kyosho Japan website, it says "engine not included" though. Confusing.....:confused:

Does anyone know if the Lancia body will fit the LM2?

Is it possible to convert the MP 7.5 kit to the rally without too much hassle? Arms, body mounts, etc...? Would it be worthwhile to do it that way? Does the MP 7.5 offer better features over the rally or are they very similar? I am thinking of getting the MP 7.5 kit and convert it later to rally. (I am bored, it's winter time...)

Thanks.

[Blaster]

Savage - I though same thing about conver a MP7.5 buggy to a rally car. But the cost of it doesn't worth! You have to change the rear shock tower (at least) rear shocks, front and rear susp. arms, rear knuckle, side guards, body posts, etc. And I am not sure but if you intend to use the 2 speed you will have to check if the buggy chassi has the same mouning holes. Not to mention that the buggy is more expensive than the rally car.

You probably mentioned this site http://www.hobbynet-jp.com/english/hobbynet.html (Kyosho kits&set). I think you should ask him what is the equipment including in this Ready Set (e.g Futaba or Perfex - Kyosho - radio, etc).

If you want my opinion, go for LM2 directly. :D

[uDi_MP75]

yeah probably not worth converting the buggy to rally, unless you want to keep using the old parts to switch between buggy and rally when you want something different. The biggest issue will be the afformentioned 2-speed, you'll have to drill out the buggy chassis etc, with a bigger hole for spurs etc, if you want to run a 2spd.

You do pay more for the buggy, but it has the hardened main diff gears (big difference, and they cost a lot alone), quad diff bevels (I think the LM2 has only 2, like the 75sports), a nicer engine mount, maybe some other stuff, etc.

if one day your just going to convert it to rally and keep it that way forever, your best off just getting the LM2.

[l0freq]

hi guys. havent posted much as i left for a holiday from dec till now and havent driven the old landmax at all. contemplated selling it last time but now am having second thoughts, since ive been back ive been watching madaz and his bro with theie landmaxes including all the crazy pics hes been posting on here, makes me have a renewed soft spot for my LM1.

been driving my 1:8 buggy around, the Sinyih one. has been fun so far. powered by a force 0.26 motor, nice nice. might swap that motor into the landmax for fun one of these days. destroy some tyres hehe.

but anyway i finally painted the focus body thats for my 1:8 buggy to make it more car like. f@$ked up the paint job tho, i was hoping for a gunmetal dark grey with a silver sheen, so i used transparent silver with gunmetal base behind, but i put too much silver down, bah. heres the rough outcome (plastic protective sheeting still on there so not shiney)

we've (madaz, his bro and me) have got a fair bit of vids and stuff so far, when we figure out a webpage we will surely post it up for u all - landmax 4 lyfe! hehhahhea :)

happy new yr everyone

[Blaster]

Hi lOfreq. Nice to have news from you after a while. You and the guys (madaz and his bro') post some of the best action pics and vids around. I look forward to get the new ones.

Your Focus looks cool! Do you know if this body fits the Kyosho Inferno buggies? Who makes them - any website? I wanna see it after job is done and decals are in... :p

As for your LM, burn the tyres!:D This engine in this car is a must see...:D

[l0freq]

cheers blaster. got a few more prep pics here. (http://www.defy.net.nz/lofreq/pics/RC%20Stuff/040122%20-%20focus%20rc%20body%20job/)

yup the bodies will fit an inferno perfectly since the wheelbase is the same. probably fit better, because infernos are a little bit narrower because the wheels have a more negative offset than the sinyih buggy.

the bodies will fit any 1:8 buggy thats in the same class as the inferno. im sure they are all about the same wheelbase.

theres 4 bodies u can get, click here (http://www.robsrchobbies.com/1_8_scale_rally_cars) to see them. subaru wrx, toyota corolla, ford focus and the peugeot 206. they look dumb in the pics thanks to the scans of some faded newspaper catalog it looks like, but it looks better in real life :)

cheap too - $80NZD as opposed to $140NZD for a LM2 lancer or subaru body. and no, they dont fit the landmax! (http://www.defy.net.nz/lofreq/pics/RC%20Stuff/031117%20-%20rc%20body%20comparisons/) hehe. unless you do some whacky wheel conversion or something.

will post more pics once it is decorated and stuff. maybe an action pic! hehe

[l0freq]

ok finished it more or less

came out not too bad... resemblance to my real car's colour is purely by accident. i have updated the web page of photos (http://www.defy.net.nz/lofreq/pics/RC%20Stuff/040122%20-%20focus%20rc%20body%20job/) with more pics. tried to go for the carbon fibre look wing and splitter, haha. hope im not starting RC car rice!

heres a pic.

[jeroen]

WOW

I like the looks of that big body,nice color.
Nice pics,the outside pics shows the body real nice,wide wheelguards

[maddmaxx45]

Does anyone have any specs on the GS-21R engine...the one that orininaly came wit the LM2. I was just wondering about that. and what are some recomended upgrade engines, and has anyone clocked a LM2 wit a 2-speed and a GS-21r, I was just wonderin, thanx guys

[Jimmy33]

hi - sorry not been about and still not picked up the shell - well actually there are 2 now as ripmax sent and Evo as well! lol
:D

what to do now! lol

keep rallin'!

[l0freq]

btw heres a pic of my mint condition clutchbell that in no way caused my retirement from the racing last weekend...

http://www.defy.net.nz/lofreq/pics/temp/040129%20-%20munted%20clutchbell.jpg

[Blaster]

l0freq - nice body paint you used on your buggy. Wanna see pics of it in action.:D As for your clutchbell, what happened?
:confused:

Maddmaxx - Kyosho doesn't release any performance spec related to the engines, notably the HPs. It is quite a honest engine to be used on your LM. With a 2 speed the performance increases reasonabily but no numbers to you either. As for engine upgrades, people here can come up with many suggestions. Mine are O.S RG (cheap one) to the O.S VZ line ("B" for off road/rally or "R" for on road use). Enjoy your driving:p

[l0freq]

i was in the middle of a race round a 1:8 buggy track on the weekend, the screw that holds the clutchbell onto the pilot shaft went byebyes, clutchbell still halfgripped by the clutch mashed itself to bits on the steel spurgear

madaz has some action pics of his inferno sport, and my sinyih in action on the day (still unpainted, plastic protective sheeting all peeling away and flapping in the breeze haha. i have since painted the body (http://www.defy.net.nz/lofreq/pics/temp/040130%20-%20fresh%20painted%20superAX5.jpg), as of earlier tonite! so it looks a bit better.

will get madaz to send me the pics or post them up here so u guys can have a look :)


maddmaxx, im not 100% but from memory, from scoring the net high and low looking for specs i think we came up with finding the GS21 rated at 1.7hp, 25,000/28,000rpm? im sure the output will be thereabouts, anyway.

[Blaster]

Here is a pic of my newly painted LM2 body. :D

[Blaster]

Another one...

[Blaster]

Last one - no rear view mirros yet. Have to decide between white or black ones...

[Madaz]

Classy looking shell blaster! Looks smoooth. White mirrors would go well with the spoiler and wheels.

Lofreq if i post buggy pics here i might get busted for "off topic" spamming!! Create a sinyih/protech 1/8 offroader thread and ill post the pics in there.

here are some inferno sport pics in the appropriate thread for anyone whos interested :-)
http://www.radiocontrolzone.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=77168&perpage=25&pagenumber=4

[jeroen]

Originally posted by Madaz
Lofreq if i post buggy pics here i might get busted for "off topic" spamming!! Create a sinyih/protech 1/8 offroader thread and ill post the pics in there.


I don't have any trouble with those pics in here.

Nice inferno sports car you have,those action pics are looking good.

Blaster as I've seen your new gold LM body before,its still a pleasant suprise too see it again :D
I think white mirrors will look better than black.

As the buggy thing is kinda hot in here I feel the need too post a link of mine new buggy also :D for those who are intrested.

mine kanai2 (http://www.rc-racingcars.com/diversen/gallery/album04)

short vid (http://members.lycos.nl/jvmracing/video/PICT0005.AVI)

[Blaster]

Thanks Madaz and Jeroen - I liked your suggestions and will keep the mirrors in white.

Madaz - as always, great pics! I liked to see that Inferno flying!:D

Jeroen - your buggy is sweeet man! And i liked to see how a K2 can become a "sand hauler". And the vid is very cool. Guess you and Madaz could start a film company or a photo magazine....:cool:

[Madaz]

ok, heres a spectacular landing by lofreq :))))

[seakaycarthik]

im interested in getting a nitro rally car cause htere is a new dirt track that opened near my house, the landmax seems like a good car but it might be too good for my budget, im only 13... do u guys reccomend any other cheap good rally nitro kit..please let me know asap... if not then i guss ill keep saving for a lanmaxx, right now i have a tb01, mi thinking i can put an 11 or 12 trnin it and convert it to rally, but for a change i just want nitro!!

[l0freq]

hehe thats the pic i was after! i was nosediving on many jumps before learning how to jump properly - luckily the sinyih chassis is a real strong one (i think its 3.5mm with 90degree(!) wing folds in it so it will never bend!) all that was damaged were the shock tower screws that the shocks are bolted to (bent the screws out of place!) :) real good fun tho (the racing, not the damage repairs heh)

jeroen - your kanai is mint! love the orange/black colour scheme, its badass. the rest of the car looks pristine too. whos is the other car, or are they both yours? the LM lancer is also looking good :) you are using an alum. clutch? how does it engage compared to the stock plastic/heavy duty clutch (engage sooner/later? slip less/more? etc...) i would have thought a metal clutch on metal clutchbell would heat up real fast and slip more than a plastic/fibre clutch?

blaster, wicked looking gtr body! cool JDM thing going on there with the "option" drift style colour and stickers! looks like a real import hehe. very nice. im a fan of the carbon look myself so i would have thought black wing and mirrors and wheels etc but the white looks good too. definitely try white on the mirrors :)

makes me want to get a new body for my LM, and rework my old gs21 motor for some renewed life!! hmm... watch this space.. ;)

[jeroen]

Thanks l0freq

The other buggy is from a friend of mine,its a mugen MBX-5 with RB ws2,which had too breakin that day,so no action pics took of that car.

We will from now on only drive it on a local buggy track(35KM from my home)
I will make lots of pics and vids of the cars driving at that track,it starts next month and I can't wait too go there.

The alu shoe's arent that great,as the clutchbell wears out sooner than using 'plastic' clutch.(as the 'kanai' clutchbell can handle the alu clutch better than the 2 3 speed for my LM and MF)
Heat and grip are not the problem,thats the part I liek about this alu clutch setups.
I use 3 types of springs too set up the engagement 0.9 1.0 and 1.1 mm thickness 1.0 works fine in my madforce and LM and 1.1 in the buggy.
You have check the clutch more often then using 'plastic' once,as the alu rubbish keeps in the clutchbell,and the alu clutch shapes itself when driving it the first times,I use my dremel too keep it inshape.

[seakaycarthik]

Originally posted by seakaycarthik
im interested in getting a nitro rally car cause htere is a new dirt track that opened near my house, the landmax seems like a good car but it might be too good for my budget, im only 13... do u guys reccomend any other cheap good rally nitro kit..please let me know asap... if not then i guss ill keep saving for a lanmaxx, right now i have a tb01, mi thinking i can put an 11 or 12 trnin it and convert it to rally, but for a change i just want nitro!!

guys, a lil help please

[l0freq]

seakaycarthik - i probably wouldnt dive into a landmax if i was 13 and wanted to start in nitro... heh. if u want a rally onroad nitro car id probably look into the 1:10/1:12 scale class, get a standard kit running a 0.12 motor, maybe an HPI or something, 2nd hand even? and bash around with that for a bit, before moving to an LM. you could consider an old LM1 but with the problems ive had, its been a steep (and expensive) learning curve (and i work fulltime so either you need super parents with bling or dont get an LM right now)

im not the one to talk about the smaller scale cars so i hope some of our other members can help you out in this dept


jeroen - cool mate thanks for the info on the clutches - i have a problem with my plastic clutch engaging way too soon - i didnt know you could get different rated clutch springs, that sounds so sensible! no idea what the rating on mine is but id guess i will need a 1.1mm rated one - my buggy has real bad creep - clutch engages even at the lowest idle - annoying.

[seakaycarthik]

i know, i just figured out the price of it, wow, im guessing i shud get a tr15 or a alpha 3..my parents arent that rich, maybe i could ask them to combine my bday, xmas, and next b day together, lol, but ya never know, im thinking of an alpha 2, 3 or tr15, but it seems all of those are discontinued, are they, if so i dont wat them... i dont like the alpha one cause it has a .12, but the tr15 and alpha 3 have .15's, does anyone know which of the following are disontinued, and a brief overview of the please

1)alpha1
2)alpha2
3)tr15rally

[seakaycarthik]

i know, i just figured out the price of it, wow, im guessing i shud get a tr15 or a alpha 3..my parents arent that rich, maybe i could ask them to combine my bday, xmas, and next b day together, lol, but ya never know, im thinking of an alpha 2, 3 or tr15, but it seems all of those are discontinued, are they, if so i dont wat them... i dont like the alpha one cause it has a .12, but the tr15 and alpha 3 have .15's, does anyone know which of the following are disontinued, and a brief overview of the please

1)alpha1
2)alpha2
3)tr15rally

[jeroen]

http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/WTI0095P?FVSEARCH=tr15&FVPROFIL=++

The tr15 buggy or stadium truck are COOL:D

10freq

If you have a 2 shoe clutch you can try this: http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXU487&P=7. worked fine on my Madforce before
If you already have a 3 shoe clutch I should go with the 1.1 springs.

[seakaycarthik]

tr15 seems cool, but also the most expensive...mmm...im thining of going alpha 3 or lm, if ican combine 3 bdays.... i was checking out the lm bodies and they are 70$???? are there any other 1/8 bodies for cheap? im thinking of alpha 3 or tr15.... are any of these discontinued

[maddmaxx45]

Hey, guys....on the LM2 front hub carriers, why is there all that extra play!!!! its really annoying, and its kinda startin to mess up the sterrin in my car, please advise me, or explain what it is all for

[seakaycarthik]

Originally posted by seakaycarthik
tr15 seems cool, but also the most expensive...mmm...im thining of going alpha 3 or lm, if ican combine 3 bdays.... i was checking out the lm bodies and they are 70$???? are there any other 1/8 bodies for cheap? im thinking of alpha 3 or tr15.... are any of these discontinued

???

[l0freq]

seakaycarthik

this forum doesnt get checked as fast as you are hitting refresh

please stop quoting your own messages and adding question marks... it is quite annoying. your posts will be noticed and answered in due course.

ok?

[seakaycarthik]

ok, im sorry, im just in a lil hurry and quite excited, once again im sorry...im used to the tb01 and 02 and tb forums, pretty high volume so im sorry...

[Jay_esS]

seakaycarthik - If you are decided on starting nitro I recomend you try talking to other nitro drivers at your local track- they may race buggys or trucks or whatever and racing them with a similar car will be more fun than bashing on your own. Everyone I've heard of has difficulty learning to tune engines - it's said to be the hardest part of the hobby. You really should have the assistance that other racers can provide (with this and other things). You may also consider buying localy and get advice etc. from your LHS - that's what they're there for. A 1/10 rally car won't have the ground clearance for anything more than very small jumps so take a good look at the track before you spend - a buggy or truck may be the way to go.

[maddmaxx45]

hey, does anyone have info on those hub carriers...please....lol
thanx

[evilGearhead]

hey, does anyone have a spare mp7.5 rally manual? to sell ?
i seem to have misplaced mine...

[Blaster]

maddmaxx45 - I am new on this buggy stuff, as well as my buggy. And it doesn't have any problem on front hubs. Maybe it is because it has only 3 tanks on it.:confused:

evilgearhead - the LM manual is the last one in this page http://www.kyosho.co.jp/main-e.html. Also, except for the susp arms, axles and hubs, all the rest of 7.5 Rally can be found on buggies manual. It is here http://www.kyosho.com/manuals/index.html.

[SixVi6-Camaro]

I have all the exploded views from the LM2 on my site in JPG format.

http://home.comcast.net/~exsells/lmaxx.html

If I can find it I also have the entire manual in PDF format. Its a huge file though.

[mundenbk]

Just got finished checking out the site and you done a great job tracking your progress. How does the Hyper 21 compare with the 24.7. I was looking to upgrade the stock engine with either the Hyper 21 or a .25, but I have noticed a lot of people going with the XTM. Is this just due to the availablility or what?

Since I just got mine, my buddy now wants one so if anybody out there want to free up there play rooms let me know.

Thanks

Brian

[jeroen]

I own both engines aswell:D

And like them both,but they are kinda different.

I would go for the hyper on a LM and a XTM on a monstertruck/buggy(as I have)

This way both engine are being used the right way.
Hyper has way more top end,thats the main reason why it fits the LM better.

XTM has a more easy tune,and lots of torque :)

[seakaycarthik]

ok, i might be able to get a lm, hehe....

[l0freq]

hi guys

madaz and his bro lee and i went for a drive last nite... madaz will have some cool photo's of lee's LM and our buggys on a nice dirt track at a local quarry site for you... i of course managed to tumble spectacularly into a large puddle of mudd (heh) by the roadside and decorated my buggy quite artistically (http://www.defy.net.nz/lofreq/pics/RC%20Stuff/040205%20-%20an%20evening%20in%20the%20mud.JPG) :)

FWIW heres a pretty poor video (http://www.defy.net.nz/lofreq/pics/RC%20Stuff/040206%20-%20focus%20garage%20trial%20run.wmv) of the ford focus body mounted on my 1:8 buggy, trying to do a few O's in my garage. definitely not as good on-road control as the LM was... had difficulty predicting its motion! body looks so~so on there IMO, the short wheelbase does show up quite a bit. also still suffering from weird high idle cutout problems... engine is sitting on a high idle but then all ofa sudden will die, nice and cleanly, for no apparent reason? im struggling with trying to find the right mixture settings to combat this, different arrangement and length of fuel lines etc, no luck so far :( ah well, will keep trying.

PS: video is ~1.94mb, WMV format. its nothing spectacular.

during the run in the garage, i managed to melt my pullstart cord right thru, and the cord has popped into the pullstart, handle fallen off - cant start it now without starter box, damn. maybe its a sign to turn focus back on the LM sitting there and bring it out of retirement... :)

[Blaster]

Guys - here are some pics of a "brand new" Landmax 1 I bought from a guy on E-bay. The body has no scratches underneath! manual is new. The blue parts have not a single scratch in it... :D Lucky me:p This one is ready for off road usage!!

[Blaster]

Oops! Forgot the pics....:eek: Here goes: (http://www.rc-racingcars.com/diversen/gallery/album07)

[seakaycarthik]

hey, maybe that is what i shud do, buy one on ebay, how much did u get it for?

[evilGearhead]

thanks for the links, but i was really hoping for an LM2 paper manual.

ill give $10 shipped for an LM2 subaru manual.

thanks

[evilGearhead]

does any manufacturer make affordable rally bodies that fit this car? i drive rough, and eighty bucks a pop is just no fun.

[Madaz]

evilgearhead why dont you print the manual onto paper? just a thought :p
Some cheap bodies would make everyone here very happy but ive never seen anyone get creative and try some alternative lids on their lm's. Here are some possible options we have been looking at trying on our cars. they are definatly affordable but i dunno how they fit. (there are measurements in the description)

http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXVU86&P=0

http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXDB27&P=0

http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXEPD0&P=0

The nitrodemon body gets my vote because it seems most suited to the offroad landmax chassis. What are some other readers opinions?? maybe you think they all suck, but affordability is the main criteria with these options.... :P

Blaster that lm looks in very good nick, Usually the landmax auctions dont attract many bidders so seakaycarthik you might be able to get yourself a bargain too. I got my landmax on ebay for half the price of a new kit and it come with radio gear too.

[seakaycarthik]

Originally posted by evilGearhead
does any manufacturer make affordable rally bodies that fit this car? i drive rough, and eighty bucks a pop is just no fun.

same here, this is the main reason for y im not sure bout getting a landmax

[evilGearhead]

i am thinking that i might ditch the max in favor of a buggy with a focus shell, because kyosho will probably never make any new shells for this car, plus the hopups cost more than parts for my real car.

besides, i really want to get a rally class started in my area, and getting the buggy guys to slap on a rally body is alot more feasible than trying to get everyone to buy lms

[Blaster]

seakaycarthik - I paid US$167.00 on my LM1. It is almost brand new, without scratches on chassis and metalic parts. With a FUTABA radio the previous owner requested US$236.00 for it.

evilgearhead - I agree on prices of the car bodies for LM. Besides Madaz suggestion I would include these OFNA (http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0095p?FVPROFIL=++&FVSEARCH=OFNa+Ultra+RTR+Body&FVPROFIL=++) ones.

Kyosho RCs are not know for their low prices. However they are well know for having quality and durability above the competition. I would say that either LM1 and 2 are great car just out of the box (besides the LM2 has a better engine). No hop ups are really necessary, except maybe the change of original shocks. The guys here certainly can come up with better suggestions on this matter. All in all, if you wanna a rally car, search for a good deal on a new or used LM. Buggies are great, but with a different compromise.

LM car bodies are really expensive. But if you continuously break them you might also crash some other parts of the car too....:confused:

[l0freq]

about those OFNA bodies - just be aware that the LM's track/width is about 245~250mm, and those bodies are only 200mm wide, youre gonna have some pretty odd looking wheel offset problems there, wheelbase may also be wrong. depends how picky you are really.

if ever there was a market for something i think it will be for landmax car body shells! heh heh


heres a tech question. on the stock GS21 motors, the heatsink is seperated from the engine block by one shim spacer thing. question is - if i remove that shim/spacer thing, will the heatsink seal enough onto the block, to not have leaking problems? i ask because the GS21 has gone on its way out in terms of compression, and to raise the remaining compression i want to remove the spacer - just now worried about leaking probs after the motor heat cycles...

your thoughts anyone?

[evilGearhead]

hey loFreq !
i just recognized your crx in the background, of your pics. I am also a 1G rex fanatic on RPR.

what a small world.

[l0freq]

hey dude :) small world indeed

btw my car's a 3g civic, not a crx! hehe. but close enuf i guess :)

so you have an LM at the moment? got pics? :)

[evilGearhead]

sorry, man i didnt see the back of the car! what a dope i am. your civic is very clean.


here my lm2 and fw-04 are, the LM is pretty standard, nothing fancy, just blue paint and dyed wheels,
the fw, on the other hand , is worth more than my crx, has everything. literally.

[Blaster]

l0freq - didn't noticed that width problem. It would make the LM looks like a Indy or F1 car, with wheels on outside. :D Thanks for help... I'm sorry guys!:confused:

To diminish my mistake :eek: I found these Kyoshos LM bodies for US$42.00 HERE (http://www.hobbynet-jp.com/english/hobbynet.html) . Just type the body number on Item Number box on upper left corner. The result in Yen just need to be divided by 133 to get the value in US$. Hope it helps...:(

Cat # 39161 = Subaru
Cat # 39984 = Lancia
Cat # 39983 = Nissan Skyline
Cat # 39981 = Toyota Corolla
Cat # 39982 = F-150 (this one cost US$38.00)

evilgearhead - Nice subaru!!:D

[evilGearhead]

thanks,

hey, will any front buggy 1/8 shocks fit this thing? just wondering.
also, whats the part # for the large plastic front bumper? does it fit right on?

[Blaster]

evilgearhead - I use the IFW140 (http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXCXY0&P=7) front and IFW141 (http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXCXY8&P=7) in the rear. Have to confess that both keep a little "compressed" in my on-road setup. But maybe it is just perfect for off-road. I also changed front and rear shock towers.

The front bumper is not a direct fit on LM2. You have to drill new holes on that plastic part. The part is this (http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXU274&P=7) . The Kyosho Superten foam fits perfectly on it!:D

[jeroen]

Why not use the ifw140 front shock on both front and rear?
As the rear buggy shocks are way too long in the rear of a LM.

I have fitted 4 front buggy shocks on my car :p

[VoodooKiller]

I'm looking to get some really good off road tires for the landmax 2 that I have. I can't find anything directly online, and I don't want to buy more "ralli" tires that cost a HUGE ammout from Kyosho. Can anyone tell me what good off-road tires fit the car?

(Note: as of now I have the standard shocks and mounts)

[jeroen]

I should try this one if I where you: http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXMU44&P=7

Or this one,although they are more for rally driving : http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXDU34&P=0

[Blaster]

My LM1 with new engine and shocks....

[Blaster]

With (original from 1st owner) body...

[Blaster]

Now... I made my OWN parts to upgrade my LM.

7075 Alu made!! Had a great (Dutch) friend incentive. The parts are 3mm thick, not polished yet.

Sooner will make my own chassis (K2, LM1, LM2), radio plates, suspension arms, everything. Without anodization the shock towers cost $10.15. Guess if I should open an E-bay store...:rolleyes: You will se my project evolution in here. Hope you enjoy as much as me!:D

[SixVi6-Camaro]

just an FYI guys.. I found a place stateside that has a good reliable supply of Medial Pro Tarmac II's.. yes all shore ratings too. check out www.meganitro.com I just ordered a set of 45 shore tarmac II's and got them a few days. For those that don't know..

my LM2 with its Tarmac II's.
http://home.comcast.net/~exsells/tarmac_04.jpg

other tarmac II pics..
http://home.comcast.net/~exsells/tarmac_01.jpg

http://home.comcast.net/~exsells/tarmac_02.jpg

http://home.comcast.net/~exsells/tarmac_03.jpg

they are great rally tires and the daiamter is nowhere near as large as most 1/8 buggy tires so they clear headers and bodys nicely. stateside you can only get premounted white 17mm hex ones. too bad I carn't get just the tires because I have 2 sets of bald tires with good rims just sitting around. :rolleyes:

[evilGearhead]

hey, blaster, how much would you want for a set of those shocktowers??

[Blaster]

evilgearhead - I sent you same message I already sent to other members which made me this question. Hope you like....:D :p

[jeroen]

Originally posted by SixVi6-Camaro
just an FYI guys.. I found a place stateside that has a good reliable supply of Medial Pro Tarmac II's.. yes all shore ratings too. check out www.meganitro.com I just ordered a set of 45 shore tarmac II's and got them a few days. For those that don't know..

they are great rally tires and the daiamter is nowhere near as large as most 1/8 buggy tires so they clear headers and bodys nicely. stateside you can only get premounted white 17mm hex ones. too bad I carn't get just the tires because I have 2 sets of bald tires with good rims just sitting around. :rolleyes:

Cool

I looked a few times at the meganitro site for buggy tires,and I saw the rally once also,but I thought they were too big.
Now I will try a set in a few months my self.

They rims look very cool on your car.

[SixVi6-Camaro]

thanks.. they do work and look great. I've actually been running them on my landmax for aobut a year now on and off but its always been such a problem getting them. ordering Tarmac's from the LHS takes 3 months!! meganitro had them to me in 4 days. I run the 45 shore tires on my landmax they work well and last long if you are good at watching the suspension. if the tires begin to wear on the inside or outside of the tire the camber is off. because the tires have no foam and do not expand like regular tires they are very sensitive to suspension settings. I run my LM2 with almost no front negative camber and just a tiny bit past -2deg in the rear and the tires wear evenly.

[SixVi6-Camaro]

check this out.. a new 2 speed option possibility from Ofna.

http://www.ofna.com/h7opt.html

the Hyper 7 has the same overall dimension's in the diffs as the 7.5's. this 2 speed as the same dimension from the drive cup to drive cup as a stock 7.5 diff. this means no moving the front diff support and getting a shorter dogbone Plus.. this has steel gears. the only downside is the spur gears may interfear with the chassis and top plate which would require some shimming to raise teh diff up but that is not a major issue. the major issue is the gearing. 12/48 14/44. good speed for a buggy even better for a monster truck tire but not soo good for the small tires of the landmax. I'm looking into other clutchbell options to get a 16/48 1st and 18/44 second or larger. hopfully it will work out. if it does I may be running a good 2 speed in the landmax and with the OPS Pro buggy engine I have in it now it will be insane!

[l0freq]

hallo all hope you are having happy LM times.

i finally spent an afternoon with madaz and bro trying to get the old gs21 (2nd gen with orange heatsink) in the LM tuned again to run reliably. major probs tuning - car would be hard to start, then suddenly fire up, and idle/rev at like 15000rpm (something crazy high like that) and if u tried to slow it down to normal idle speed it would die instantly. driving at high speed also would cut it out suddenly, and also if u hit the brakes it would die. #@(*$@!!!! madaz had rebuilt his old gs21 also (first gen with blue heatsink) and had similar probs!

anyway we slowly tuned it into running for longer than 20 secs at a time, i managed almost a 2 min drive, then did a WRC style write off into a nearby curb, destroying my front lower arm and suspension yet again. wrecked upper and lower arms, broken front body post, jammed dogbone heh. heres a pic

http://www.defy.net.nz/lofreq/pics/RC%20Stuff/040216%20-%20busted%20front%20arm%20AGAIN%2002.jpg

it was really cool.... very 'marcus gronholm' style, car limped back 3 wheels rolling, 1 wheel locked and jammed, rotating ever so slightly... was so cool! i was cracking up. anyway click here for a few more pics of the damage (http://www.defy.net.nz/lofreq/pics/RC%20Stuff/) (the files called "busted front arm....")

heres a sorta cool video of my sinyih buggy on the street in front of my house after a short downpour of rain (http://www.defy.net.nz/lofreq/pics/RC%20Stuff/040216%20-%20steamy%20road%20drift%20test.avi) (rightclick, "save as...") - the exhaust was leaving a steaming smouldering effect on the road that was pretty cool looking... plus it was slippy enuf for some nice wide powerslides, just like i love. hehe. (vid is about 2.5mb, needs divX codec (http://download.divx.com/divx/DivXPro511GAINBundle.exe)

also as a side project i bought a tamiya alfa romeo GTA, based on the M-04M chassis - was wandering the local hobby store with a friend when i spotted this gem on special! impulse bought it immediately... heres some pics of the build (http://www.defy.net.nz/lofreq/pics/RC%20Stuff/040208%20-%20new%20tamiya%20M-04M%20alfa/), im amazed at the quality of the tamiya body, how much scale detail there was - amazing, compared to the real thing (http://www.defy.net.nz/lofreq/pics/temp/030209%20-%20Prestige%20Car%20Show%2023.JPG). my dad had one of these from 1971 till about 1992 and i grew up in it so thats why i fell in love at first sight. will have to get some batteries and another reciever for it to see how it drives now.

[Blaster]

l0freq - I placed a GS21 2nd generation on my LM1 and it is running great. Very easy tuning after solve some issues. But I had problems before get it properly tuned:

1) Glow Plug was hitting the piston head, breaking "spring" inside it. Lost almost 3 OS 8 before open it and check. I was using the shim that came along the engine form the factory. Dunno why it happened.

2) Leak in the base of the carb. The screw was not tight enough.

3) Leak in the manifold - seems the gasket was damaged

I use 3.5 turns on high end needle and 1 mm carb opening. So far, so good.

As for the wreck... You really wanted to "move that curb" with your LM1, didn't you? lol

As for the Alfa..... Man the car looks real!!! Even the wheels and tires. This was a race winner car here, i like it a lot. And I think you made a great purchase!!

[mundenbk]

Anybody interested in selling a Landmax2? I have a friend that wants one bad but doesn't want to buy a new one.

Thanks

Brian

[SixVi6-Camaro]

Man I ran my Landmax 2 today for the first time in a while (too cold and crappy out until now) I put an OPS .21 Pro Buggy engine into it and its just brutally fast. I took some pics and some of all my RC's. I miss the summer and running my landmax 2 in parking lots for long periods of time by myself. Its just soo relaxing for me.

Here my LM2 all setup for tarmac duty.
http://home.comcast.net/~exsells/lmaxx_59.jpg

one of all my 100% running RC's.. I have a couple more but they are not in running order. http://home.comcast.net/~exsells/hyper7_14.jpg

[Madaz]

what a nice collection of cars you have John. that alfa shell looks smooth and the medial pro wheels just improve it.

the OPS engine is fast enough for you then, thats good to hear. Maybe put one of the ofna 2spds in aswell and see if you can exceed the medial pro tarmac's speed rating!!! hehe

although its been too cold for you to drive, at least you have the option of snow driving. Here we just get hot!! or cold without snow.

for anyone who wants a cheap landmax body i can confirm the duratrax nitrodemon shell fits.( i know coz i bought one) It is not a very detailed body but for 20usa bucks it will do me. Lofreq and lee got the stockcar style chevy lumina bodys and they are looking very sweet. (size is near perfect and its a lower sleeker shape than the original landmax bodies) When we have painted them we will post a few pictures....... cya's :-)

[l0freq]

sorry i cant help myself!!!

forget $80 kyosho overpriced bods for bashers!!!

duratraxx nitrodemon $19!!!
http://www.defy.net.nz/lofreq/pics/RC%20Stuff/duratraxx%20dtxc6419.jpg

parma chevy lumina $26!!!
http://www.defy.net.nz/lofreq/pics/RC%20Stuff/parma%20nascar%20parc6009.jpg

teaser!!!
http://www.defy.net.nz/lofreq/pics/RC%20Stuff/040222%20-%20new%20rc%20bodies%2001.JPG

teaser!!!
http://www.defy.net.nz/lofreq/pics/RC%20Stuff/040222%20-%20new%20rc%20bodies%2002.JPG

teaser!!!
http://www.defy.net.nz/lofreq/pics/RC%20Stuff/040222%20-%20new%20rc%20bodies%2006.JPG

more to come!!!

[jeroen]

SixVi6-Camaro

That Alfa 156 body looks WICKED,especialy with those nice big white rims:D

The rest of your rc cars are very nice aswell.

l0freq

Thanks for showing the COOL bodies too us.

I think I'll give the parma chevy lumina a try myself,as it looks abit like the skyline which I like alot.

When will you paint them?

[Blaster]

l0freq - thanks for the tips!! Great to have a chance to buy cheaper bodies to our LMs:D

Wanna see some action pics of these cars.....;)

[madmaxx600]

yet another new face to the board.
hi guys!

got some questions!

1. what is the difference of having a 3 speed (mad force trans) versus the upgrade 2 speed? quicker accelaration? top end?

2. where is the cheapest place to get parts? i found a web site that is called discount rc parts that has some stuff for cheap. they are state side though.
(yes i am a "yankee")

3. what servos should i use? there are futaba servos for a helicopter that are pretty high torque. or should i use different ones?

thanks guys!
madmaxx

[Blaster]

madmaxx600 - yankees are welcome!!! Specially if you also are a LM addict or enthusiast :D


1) Dunno but the 2 speed seems to be good enough for the car. And I assume that tune the 3 speed will be very hard (will have to unassembly it everytime you need to adjust)

2) So far, the cheapest places to buy parts I've found - besides E-bay - are http://www.rcmart.com/catalog/default.php?language=en, http://www.rc-mushroom.com/ and http://www.hobbynet-jp.com/english/hobbynet.html. However as you live in US maybe there are better options in there. Guys???:(

3) I used Futaba S9304 for steering and used S9202 for throtle in the past. Now I use S9402 for steering and S3004 for throtle braking. So far, so good.

[l0freq]

six - the alfa looks amazing - the rims make it look madness! hehe. are those headlights a sticker, or do i see some kinda custom projector style lenses in there? dont tell me they are operational?? wicked stuff

servos - lee and i have been using Hitec servos in our landmaxes - 605BB's did both steering and throttle and seem to perform well. i have upgraded my steering servo to a 625mg for a bit more grunt and strength. i am however unsure what the equivalent is, for futaba.... id be interested to know actually - to compare features and prices... does anyone know the equivalent futaba models?

as for action pics etc we will try our best as lee and i are getting new motors to replace our tired old GS21's, have ordered some new team orion wasp .26's for hopefully nonstop wheelspin action in the dry. well thats how im gonna be driving it anyway. will have to mount and break in etc before all this happens, we are waiting impatiently for them to arrive. perhaps my bday present, it is my bday tomoro (25th feb) :)

as for painting and finishing the bodies i know madaz is more or less completed with his duratrax truck bod and it looks the bizniz!!! its a perfect fit on the LM and looks real tough. lee is working on his paint scheme... as for me heres another TEASER%$#_)(%#

http://www.defy.net.nz/lofreq/pics/RC%20Stuff/040223%20-%20new%20lumina%20paint%20job%2011.jpg

all thats left are some decals and ventilation and shes ready!

[SixVi6-Camaro]

the headlights are actually seperate pods that you stick to the inside of the body. when you paint the body you leave the lights clear then painthe light pods black and stick them in. the grille is also a seperate piece as well. I love the realism in the kyosho bodys.. just the pice is killer.

that chevy body looks great! I bet it would also be a great handler at high speeds. I'm going to have to buy one. Good find! I can't wait to see that all done.

[madmaxx600]

hey guys.

lofrequency, happy birthday!!!
that body rocks!!!!!
how close are the front tires to the body?
they look like they are cutting it close.
i am sure the broken a-arm doesn't help(just kidding):D .
say, did you get that a-arm fixed?

but the body is awesome. it is what we call "a street sweeper"!

has anyone ever seen a LM on tower hobbies scratch and dent section?

later guys!!!

[SixVi6-Camaro]

figured I'd toss this up.
http://home.comcast.net/~exsells/lmaxx_60.jpg

My LM2 with the OPS Pro Buggy .21 and a gutted CVEC Z170. I just changed to a 16t clutchbell after this pic.

[l0freq]

six - i will let lee update you on the high speed stability - hes the one that just goes full nuts heheh. i just go sideways then try to move curbs with my lower arms. as for 16tooth on the OPS! crazy! i put on 14tooth bells then worry about low end torque! haha. the OPS must be a pretty decent motor?? i havent heard much about it before... we are still waiting on our wasp .26's to arrive.....

maddmaxx.... cheers for the bday wishes dude! the bodies are a bit too wide for the stock wheels so theres lots of overhang and clearance, only at extreme lock and maximum dump is there guard rub. in a straight line, the chassis can hit the ground without the wheels contacting the body - cool!

lee and i went a bit nuts last nite and took all kindsa poser pics hehe including weird long exposure ones in pitch dark with a lighter/torch - very interesting efffects! will post a gallery soon as i get some missing photos from madaz's camera

for now here is a more or less completed pair of bodies, lees and mine... minus roof and ventilation holes... which we will do this week probably. yeah i kinda went overboard with the stickers i know.

http://www.defy.net.nz/lofreq/pics/temp/040226%20-%20lumina%20photos%2001.JPG

havent heard from other LM'ers in a while... how are u all doing? :D

[SixVi6-Camaro]

yeah actually I put a 17t in today. I was beating up some 1/10 touring cars with my LM2. lol! I broke the wing off the alfa bod today as well but I didn't think it would last long anyhow. I change gearing a lot depending on what I'm going with it. I love beating up the 1/10 touring cars though. I normally run a 15t with the OPS it gives a good amount of torque and speed. the OPS is a great motor but I guess a $300usd motor has better be good.. lol. I only paid $100 for it off ebay.

I got to get one of those body's. they look great on the landmax and I bet they will be nice even at high speeds because they were made for 1/8 on roads. I like. It looks good.

[Blaster]

l0freq - nice pics man. An these bodies looks very cool!:p I can already imagine your action pics with them...:rolleyes: A bit to late but... happy birthady.

madmaxxx600 - never saw a LM on scratch&dent nor on these daily sales offers on Tower. Still believe e-bay is our only option.
:(

SixVi6 - the Alfa body with those huge wheels looks awesome. I wish we could find them here. I liked the look of your car, specially the CVEC and deanodized parts. Do you use single speed on it? And 2 or 4 brakes?

[SixVi6-Camaro]

thanks! I run just the single speed and 2 brakes but I use high speed and good torque servos for the throtle/brake so it has more than enough braking power to stop it quick.

[Cotharyus]

Ok guys - I'm a longtime R/Cer (17 years) with about 1 year nitro experience. In my currently location, there are no groomed road surfaces to run any of my 1/10 touring cars on - so I've sold them all. I have a local track, and a big back yard, I've been racing stadium trucks (nitro and electric) but they just don't scratch my speed itch. So I think it's time to get something that I can run onroad thats fast, but doesn't have to have a perfect surface. It should also be able to be run on a dirt oval for racing...or at least that would be a nice touch. Durabiltiy is good, at this point let it be known that I've never run anything larger than 1/10 scale...I assume I'll find the durabiltiy of the LM2 acceptable since it's based on the 7.5. Is there any reason that the LM2 might not be right for me? Is there anything I should know that would me the LM2 better for me? (mods, etc)

[Blaster]

SixVi6 - thanks for the tips! I'll change my throtle/brake servo and set the car for 2 breakes.;)


Cotharyus - for on/off road racing the LM2 is a very good car just out of the box. Very resistant and reliable - as the Inferno buggy is. I never run it on dirty ovals but I am pretty sure that an experienced RC can tune it properly and the performance will be quite good. For rally and bump tarmac tracks it is just perfect!:D

As for hop ups you wont find many but the Kyosho ones.:( One that I think it is a good investment is change the original shocks for better ones - IFW140, BSW072, IFW030 or IFW060. Also change the front dogbones/drivecups for Universal Swing Shafts (GTW001) might be a good choice.

Most of Kanai/Inferno parts will fit, except the wheels, hubs, suspension arms, chassis. Shock towers will fit but the car body have to be set a little higher (for off road it might be useful...:rolleyes: )

[Madaz]

Finally got around to taking a couple of pictures of the new body, im pretty pleased with it. It should be great for some serious offroad bashing and some stadium truck style jumps!

It fits very well, almost like it was made for the landmax chassis. I had to repaint my wheels coz they looked a bit rough with the shiny new body. the paintjob was inspired by the old tamiya nissan kingcab stadium truck.

welcome madmaxx600 and Cotharyus, i think the landmax will satisfy your need for speed and you should have no major durability problems since you have experience to build it properly.... most lm owners will agree the landmax chassis can take a hammering!
If u crash alot then inevitably the body will get ripped and you might break some bodyposts but apart from that and the lm1 wishbones, nothing else major should break. Has anyone here ever broken lm2 suspension before??? John what parts did you break when you had your bad crash?

pic #1...

[Madaz]

and pic #2

[HKmaxx]

Madaz, cool body. Definitely will have to get one.
Busted up the lower arm on a high speed run on the backstraight of a touring car track. Car is pretty tough. It was the only thing broken. 5 min fix.

[l0freq]

the LM2's with the chassis kickup and those more robust looking arms sure seem alot tougher.

heres similar (but more spectacular) damage to my LM1 :(

http://www.defy.net.nz/lofreq/pics/RC%20Stuff/040216%20-%20busted%20front%20arm%20AGAIN%2005.jpg

[cleanmaxx brian]

Hi All,
Been awhile since I posted here! Have a easy question I think...

I sold a brand new Mad Force engine with pull start to a nice guy who has a MP-6. He says it will not fit? I did not think there was a difference between the way the motor mounts to a Landmax 2 and a Landmax 1??? The motor fits into my Landmax 2 with NO PROBLEMS and is very easy actually!

Can someone fill me in?

Thanks a bunch!!!
Brian:(

[Madaz]

cleanmaxx the lm1 uses different engine mounts (they are bigger) to the lm2 engine mounts also the carb must be turned around 180 degrees to fit the lm1.

I dont know about the mad force mounts. ask the guy exactly what doesnt fit then tell us, someone here will be able to help :)

A question, does anyone know how to repair a landmax1 fuel tank where the brass outlet tube fits it isnt sealing and fuel sprays out. Im gonna put silicone on the brass tube and push it back in but maybe someone has repaired one differently with better results?? cheers.

[cleanmaxx brian]

the lm1 uses different engine mounts (they are bigger) to the lm2 engine mounts also the carb must be turned around 180 degrees to fit the lm1.

I dont know about the mad force mounts. ask the guy exactly what doesnt fit then tell us, someone here will be able to help


The mad force and the LM2 have the motor mount built into the engine block itself. In fact they use the exact same engine but with a different color head. (MF=gold head and LM=black head)

The LM1 unses an actual motor mount...it is seperate from the engine itself.