HB Lightning RR Forum v2.0

[CRSMP5]

i bet i did.. but had to stripe parking lots all weekend for YSU... and there was no getting out of it... im going to borrow you rpic though... :D

[Andrew18]

Got a quick question I just recently got a Hitec 5945 digital servo for my buggy. I have an Jr XS3 controller with the jr rx. I need to know if i need to change my cord around at all since my servo works fine but it whines all the time ...thank again

[k_bojar]

Originally posted by Andrew18
Got a quick question I just recently got a Hitec 5945 digital servo for my buggy. I have an Jr XS3 controller with the jr rx. I need to know if i need to change my cord around at all since my servo works fine but it whines all the time ...thank again

The whining is fine :) All digital servos make that noise...If the servos works, then you do not need to change your plug :) Its a "works or dont work" kinda thing :) most radios nowadays use a universal plug set-up so inter-changing is very easy and common

[SpeedMunkey]

Hey guys, having a problem.

Go here (http://www.radiocontrolzone.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=137666)

Input is greatly apreciacted.

[CRSMP5]

my race results...

8 port race, custom pipe, 16t cb, 1st place.. :D i need to do photo shoot of buggy to update my pics.. im putting my picco 26 in it for next weekend... :D

[blemaxx]

what pipe do you have with that 8port race?

[Andrew18]

Quick question can someone help me oput with the importance of Ports in an engine?

Can someone tell me about Crono engine or the new Bergonzoni XR 1? thanks

[CRSMP5]

the more ports.. the better it breaths..

the pipe... hmmmm lets say it is a aluminum coned chamber with a long stinger and lacks any internal baffle.. so great on top side.. sux on bottom end torque, but thats the most i can say.. besides it will make your local village people mad with noise.. :D

im going to find a way to make this fit..

http://www.rchub.com/gfx/media/TS10SA-Sid01500.jpg

the review of this pipe is here (http://www.radiocontrolzone.com/forums/showthread.php?&threadid=125703) on this forum..

but to fit a lightning the boss on top for the pressure line hits the lower plastic stone shield :( but it is the best sounding pipe ive ever had... and top end is great, have it on my savage i think some of you need to post a opinion on it for your buggies.. they have a 2nd style pictured on page 2 of the thread, that i think would be sweet..

[Jeff Cain]

Ripped this one from www.parisracing.com

Question 1** how many ports does it have?

Answer** More is not indicative of being better. If more ports was the only solution to more power, all Engines would have maximum amounts of ports. Simply put there is only so much room for ports In any given displacement engine. Some engines with twice the ports can have less total port Area. This is not good or bad it is just Different. Every thing is A combination of many variables! Some of the most powerful engines I have built were Three Ports! We top qualified the world championships in Holland with a three port engine wile many of the competitors were using 5,6,7 and even 8 port engines and we had the fasted top speeds displayed on the amb KPH board. It is true in most cases that within any brand Of Engine there power ratings go up with the amount of Ports, but this is due too more than just the quantity of said Ports. Generally there are many other components in the Engine that have more refined or modified parts than Those with less ports, complementing the combination. My tip is you can only compare quantity of ports between Engines of the same manufacture they all have their own Combinations, in other words brand A’s 17 port may or May not run equal to brand B’s 29 port.

[Jeff Cain]

FYI the steering knuckles from the Kanai II fit the Lightning. Only $12ish per pair. I stripped mine while trying to remove the 4x10 kingpin screws, seemed to me the Lightning Pro knuckles are made of rather soft aluminum. They don't turn black when de-annodized like the 7075 shock towers and chassis braces do. They just turned silver like all the other 6061 parts did. If you ever need to replace them, don't drop a fortune on the factory replacements, get the Kyosho knuckles. Hey if they're good enough for Kanai, they're good enough for my Lightning Pro.

[Andrew18]

What shocks from other buggies will fit the Hot Bodies lightning Pro?

Looking at set from a K2 and Hyper 7 pro?

[k_bojar]

Originally posted by Jeff Cain
FYI the steering knuckles from the Kanai II fit the Lightning. Only $12ish per pair. I stripped mine while trying to remove the 4x10 kingpin screws, seemed to me the Lightning Pro knuckles are made of rather soft aluminum. They don't turn black when de-annodized like the 7075 shock towers and chassis braces do. They just turned silver like all the other 6061 parts did. If you ever need to replace them, don't drop a fortune on the factory replacements, get the Kyosho knuckles. Hey if they're good enough for Kanai, they're good enough for my Lightning Pro.

Well that sounds like great news :D That means the Racers Edge ones would work too :D Now if only I can find a way to justify spend $70 on steering knuckles ;):D:)

[k_bojar]

Originally posted by CRSMP5
the more ports.. the better it breaths..

the pipe... hmmmm lets say it is a aluminum coned chamber with a long stinger and lacks any internal baffle.. so great on top side.. sux on bottom end torque, but thats the most i can say.. besides it will make your local village people mad with noise.. :D

im going to find a way to make this fit..

http://www.rchub.com/gfx/media/TS10SA-Sid01500.jpg

the review of this pipe is here (http://www.radiocontrolzone.com/forums/showthread.php?&threadid=125703) on this forum..

but to fit a lightning the boss on top for the pressure line hits the lower plastic stone shield :( but it is the best sounding pipe ive ever had... and top end is great, have it on my savage i think some of you need to post a opinion on it for your buggies.. they have a 2nd style pictured on page 2 of the thread, that i think would be sweet..

I'm guessing you do not race your lightning??? :) :eek: :D

[k_bojar]

Originally posted by Andrew18
What shocks from other buggies will fit the Hot Bodies lightning Pro?

Looking at set from a K2 and Hyper 7 pro?

I would assume with all the similarities between the Lightning and the Kanai - that the K2's would be the best fit...I'm about 95% sure the Hyper's will fit too - I think I remember someone saying those fit

Worse case is you'd have to change the bottom mounts on the shafts to fit the Lightning's location....

BTW, why do you want to change them?? The Lightning's are pretty nice and good shocks...Unless you want the adjustibility of threaded bodies

[SpeedMunkey]

Originally posted by Jeff Cain
FYI the steering knuckles from the Kanai II fit the Lightning. Only $12ish per pair. I stripped mine while trying to remove the 4x10 kingpin screws, seemed to me the Lightning Pro knuckles are made of rather soft aluminum. They don't turn black when de-annodized like the 7075 shock towers and chassis braces do. They just turned silver like all the other 6061 parts did. If you ever need to replace them, don't drop a fortune on the factory replacements, get the Kyosho knuckles. Hey if they're good enough for Kanai, they're good enough for my Lightning Pro.

I agree here, the Pro knuckles AINT all that. Second week racing, they failed just as easily as the RTR pot metal knuckles. I ended up stripping the threads out yet again. I'm back to the stock ones for this weekend. What a waste of money. I'll try the Kanaii knuckles next time.

[SpeedMunkey]

http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXU550&P=Z

Those the ones? They look about the same as the stock cast aluminum ones for the Lightning to me.

[CRSMP5]

yea i do race mine.. :D i just love the sound of it... and so far i have had 0 performace loss with it...

[k_bojar]

Originally posted by SpeedMunkey
I agree here, the Pro knuckles AINT all that. Second week racing, they failed just as easily as the RTR pot metal knuckles. I ended up stripping the threads out yet again. I'm back to the stock ones for this weekend. What a waste of money. I'll try the Kanaii knuckles next time.

I havent had any kind of problem like that with my Pro knuckles...I was just having the loose screw issue - which I think I solved and the GS sleeves should definitely help out

But I'm still glad to hear the K2 knuckles will fit the Lightning...I'm thinking Racer's Edge :D I wanna be like Degagni - but with a cheaper buggy ;):):D

[tomkrazy]

HEY gang

I am looking into both the XTM X-terminator
and the HB Lightning.

what do you recommend
and can someone fill me in on the different ligtenings
what the differences are.

Thanks

i know being a lightning forum i will get mostly people saying that
but i am also fairly confident that the X-terminator is a good buggy.

thanks in advance

Tom

[k_bojar]

Originally posted by tomkrazy
HEY gang

I am looking into both the XTM X-terminator
and the HB Lightning.

what do you recommend
and can someone fill me in on the different ligtenings
what the differences are.

Thanks

i know being a lightning forum i will get mostly people saying that
but i am also fairly confident that the X-terminator is a good buggy.

thanks in advance

Tom

If you are going to get a lightning, get the Pro version :) Better all around buggy...The X-Terminator is supposed to be a good buggy - I've just never seen one...

The lightning is based on a "champion" design, i.e., Kyosho MP Kanai, whereas the X-Terminator is based on a more radical design

I'd look at the price of the X-Terminator Pro version - that looks to have some better specs than the standard version, more racey :)

2 things come to mind...1) The price of the buggies...You cannot beat the price of the Lightning or the Lightning Pro - no other buggy on the market can touch the quality verus bang for your buck...2) I'd ask myself are you going to race the buggy or just bash around in a field or something - Both Lightnings come with a "race legal" .21 engine, the XTM comes with a .247 engine - not legal for organized racing...

Another thing I'd look at would be parts support at your local hobby shop or track...There are many compatible parts between the Lightning and the Kyosho buggies...I'm not sure what is compatible with the XTM

Make any sense??? :) :confused: :D

[blemaxx]

Any good place on the net for parts for the pro yet? I need a bunch of stuff did some damage today!

[CRSMP5]

http://www.brownshobbyshop.com

the track i race at has bookoo parts in stock now above link..

and my LHS which is not on the web also has alot of parts.. their # is 330-793-9233 austintown hobby shop, they are a little slow but if you have a part # they have a box full of lightning stuff that i went thru one day, just to see what they had, and they have ALOT of misc stuff for one.

[blemaxx]

Thanks CRSMP5 they are one of a few that had every thing I need!!!

[CRSMP5]

can i inquire as to which one it was that had all the goodies?? and BOTH of those places are stocking parts cause i tend to spend lots of green in them so they try to keep my well supplied on savage and lightning parts... even though i have yet to break lightning.. but is also good to hear they had the stuff.. :) makes it easier for others on the thread to possibly find supplyer of items..

[blemaxx]

Sorry about that I didn't see that you had 2 on the post till I called the one you gave the n# for about my order and they had no clue what I was talking about! LOL Well I got the stuff from Browns Hobby The people thought it was kind of crazy that I called from Colorado just to order but they did it for me! I like the people I talked to very nice! Thanks for the tip! O and they didn't have all the parts I need to get C8004 Diff plate mounts but hey no one has them and they had all the other stuff most people don't.

[Carmmond]

Well I was all set to get the Hyper 7 PBS till I read all the info in this post:D My question is does anyone know of a good online retailer that has them in stock at a good price? I would like to get it in the next day or two. This will be my first RC so I will also need info on what servo's to get for steering. I have seen it asked but not found the ones people are talking about at towerhobbies. The LHS sells the Futaba servo's so if anyone is running one of them and likes it let me know what one to get. I'm also looking at this Futaba gun (http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXZF33**&P=0)

Thanks for your help.

[Carmmond]

Sorry should have told you I'm in the states... Wisconsin.

[blemaxx]

try http://www.pottbellysrc.com/ I got one from them 329.00 you have to call to see if they have them because no on-line order OR http://www.hobbycityrc.com/rccarkits.htm They have them at the end of the page for 334.99 As for radio I use the JR XR3 with the servos that came wit it. They seem to work well and not a bad price for the stuff. Hope this helps good choice the pro is a blast!:)
On the home page for hobby city they have a labor day sale they say %15 off store wide special pricing on R/C cars what ever that is?

[blemaxx]

I have also been told the Airtronics MX-3 is a good radio and it is only like 120.00 on Tower.

[Aldalo]

I bought a JR xr2i for my Lightning Pro.

http://horizon.hobbyshopnow.com/products/description.asp?prod=JRP234275

Comes with receiver & two servos (one high torque for steering)

[Casey]

Originally posted by Carmmond
Sorry should have told you I'm in the states... Wisconsin.

I'm in Wisconsin, too. Where are you located?

[Carmmond]

Waukesha and you?

[CRSMP5]

u can also try www.rcboyz.com.. 320+shipping.. and IMO i checked out all the ofna stuff, this is the better buggy... as for options.. also make sure to check out the v1.0 thread also.. lots of great info on it..

blemaxx
call up austin town hobbies.. i think they have those diff braces for the center diff... they had alot of odd stuff i never saw in anyother store..
as far as plastic components.. he even has 2 bags of the items that have the knureled adjusters for brake bias.. aka read original v1.0 post if you have no idea of what i speak..

[Carmmond]

Originally posted by CRSMP5
u can also try www.rcboyz.com.. 320+shipping.. and IMO i checked out all the ofna stuff, this is the better buggy... as for options.. also make sure to check out the v1.0 thread also.. lots of great info on it..



I have looked on rcboyz and dont see it listed.... is this a "you have to call them" thing?

[blemaxx]

I am going to call them back today! I also looked at rcboyz but don't see it anymore?

[CRSMP5]

i no longer see it listed either.. =( i would email them..

[Carmmond]

email sent:)

I'll post the answer if I hear before I leave work.

[tomkrazy]

OKay thanks to this awesome forum on this buggy i got all my questions answered except one;

My buggy will arrive tomorrow (PRO)
what do i need besides the radio and the obvious, (batteries fuel etc)
what have you guys needed to buy in your initial break in period.

Thanks

Tom

[Casey]

Originally posted by Carmmond
Waukesha and you?

I live in New Munster, which is just south of Burlington and west of Lake Geneva. I race in Bristol which is on Hwy 45 near the **/IL state line.

Here's a link to the track's website. The website is not very big, but they just put it up and aren't done yet. http://www.bristolrc.com/races.html

And there are pics of the track on page 9 of this thread. There have been some slight revisions, but it is basically the same.
http://www.radiocontrolzone.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=135717&perpage=25&pagenumber=9

You should head on down and check it out.

[Casey]

Well guys, I said I wouldn't be around this forum much because I'd be racing my Hyper 7 for the next 8-week race season. Still waiting on my new fuel tank for the H7, so I've been racing my Lightning Pro. I finished out the last season with a first place in points(7 TQs, 7 wins, 1 third). The first two races of the new season I've had two TQs, 1 win, and 1 second. This buggy rocks. Hope the Hyper 7 is good to me.

[Carmmond]

Originally posted by Casey
I live in New Munster, which is just south of Burlington and west of Lake Geneva. I race in Bristol which is on Hwy 45 near the **/IL state line.

Here's a link to the track's website. The website is not very big, but they just put it up and aren't done yet. http://www.bristolrc.com/races.html

And there are pics of the track on page 9 of this thread. There have been some slight revisions, but it is basically the same.
http://www.radiocontrolzone.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=135717&perpage=25&pagenumber=9

You should head on down and check it out.

Ok my sis used to live in Elkhorn so I know about were you live. I may get my brother to run down with me for the laborday bash. If we do I'll let you know. Hey Casey were did you get your car at... the lightning? And why are you going to run the Hyper and not the lightning?

[Casey]

I bought my Lightning from hpisavage21.com for $329.99 and about $12 shipping.

http://www.hpisavage21.com/lightning_pro.htm

The reason I was going to run my Hyper 7 is this. Last October my wife bought my the Hyper 7. I ran it a few times before cold weather. No problems and very happy with it. This spring I got the itch to buy a 2nd 1/8 buggy for a "backup" and for bashing. I started reading this thread from page one and decided to get a Lightning Pro. Bought it and broke it in. Fast forward to the very first race of the year. I take both buggies to the track with plans on racing the Hyper 7. I make it almost through the first heat when the H7 died and wouldn't re-fire. Ran the Lightning for the second heat and main and then continued to run it for all races since. The Hyper seemed to have some sort of gremlin and I couldn't get it running for anything. Bought a new engine and thought I was ready to go only to find out the fuel tank was bad. Tank should be here tomorrow or Saturday.

Soooo, the reason I'll be running it is because my wife was very excited to buy it for me, only to have me end up racing the "other" buggy. I have been TOTALLY pleased with my Lightning. It's tough as nails. Haven't broken anything yet.

[tomkrazy]

so what Radio is everyone using?
am? or what?

What about high torgue servo?
what speed? how much torgue.

thanks Gang

:)

T

[CRSMP5]

honestly any 80oz steering servo will work (im using a stock savage one with NO issues).. stock one will work for throttle, and any am or fm radio will work, but i suggest one with end point adjustments so you can add or take away braking pressure as the track drys/gets loose..

next.. the austin town hobby shop has 2 sets of the center diff housing braces.. they also have the gs storm front nuckles on the back wall..

[Carmmond]

Originally posted by Casey
Soooo, the reason I'll be running it is because my wife was very excited to buy it for me, only to have me end up racing the "other" buggy. I have been TOTALLY pleased with my Lightning. It's tough as nails. Haven't broken anything yet.

I know what you mean:) Hey are you going to make the Labor day run and if so will your wife be comming.... maybe I could talk the wife into comming down also.

[Jeff Cain]

Originally posted by tomkrazy
so what Radio is everyone using?
am? or what?

What about high torgue servo?
what speed? how much torgue.

thanks Gang

:)

T

I'm usnig a JR XR3(FM) that I've had for a few years, and an Airtronics 358 (200 oz/in @ 0.10 sec) for steering and a 257 (125 oz/in @ 0.07 sec) on the throttle.

[blemaxx]

Originally posted by tomkrazy
OKay thanks to this awesome forum on this buggy i got all my questions answered except one;

My buggy will arrive tomorrow (PRO)
what do i need besides the radio and the obvious, (batteries fuel etc)
what have you guys needed to buy in your initial break in period.

Thanks

Tom

I like to have extra glow plugs. You also need a glow igniter that's about it. Other than the obvious stuff (fuel maybe air filtter oil batts.)

[Carmmond]

Originally posted by Carmmond
I know what you mean:) Hey are you going to make the Labor day run and if so will your wife be comming.... maybe I could talk the wife into comming down also.

Well its a go for me .... bros family will come down with me and my wife, just up to you to show up and tell me what you look like:)

[Casey]

I'm planning on being there. R/C racing has turned into kind of a family affair. I'll be racing my Lightning, my son and nephew will be running in the electric class, and my brother should be running his Hyper 7. We even just got my dad into R/C and racing at 57 years young. He'll be running in the 1/10 gas class. My wife, daughter, and my mom should be there, too.

We'll have our pit area set up around either our maroon Dakota Quad Cab 4x4 or green Toyota 4x4 pickup. We should be right up next to the building. I've got a shaved head, goatee, and glasses. Kinda ugly.:)

I'd suggest bringing a folding table and an extension cord if you need 'em. If you need to get in touch with the hobby shop, you can give them a call at 262-857-3400. Tell 'em Casey sent you.

[Carmmond]

Well I found one in town at Hobbytown and the guy marked it down to $329. for me. I got the car, JR XS3, glow igniter, after burn oil, extra glow plug, tire glue, fuel and fuel bottle. The manager marked the car down and shot in the gallon of fuel and the bottle for free! Just have to go buy batteries now. He said the servos that came with the XS3 should be good in the car. It's an 85oz servo so it should work good.

Casey if me and the wife make it down I'll hunt you down and talk with you. I wont be racing because I've never ran a car before so I'll just bash it this year and think about running it next year. I would like to make it down just to scope it out and see what I'm getting into:D

[blemaxx]

The servos you got are just fine I use them and have yet to need more. Have fun with the buggy I know it is the best R/C I bought yet!

[Carmmond]

Originally posted by blemaxx
The servos you got are just fine I use them and have yet to need more. Have fun with the buggy I know it is the best R/C I bought yet!

blemaxx thats good to know. I was wondering if the 85oz would do the job.

[Carmmond]

Well it ends up I'm missing some parts in the box so I'm down for the day:( I will go back to Hobbytown in the morning and see if they can help with parts. If not I'll have to call HB and get them sent.

[CRSMP5]

if neither of them can help you the austin town hobbies number a page back has them...

next.. i finally broke it today!! ripped the rear wing mount off the shock tower.. :o but i did have a picco and 18t cb in it... also i cam in 1st... but today unlike the past so many weeks it was me and 1 other running, and he DNF..

[Aldalo]

Originally posted by Carmmond
Well it ends up I'm missing some parts in the box so I'm down for the day:( I will go back to Hobbytown in the morning and see if they can help with parts. If not I'll have to call HB and get them sent.
I was missing the threaded rods for my throttle & brake
linkage.
Anyone else have parts missing from there lightning pro?
I called HotBodies two weeks ago, said they would ship them
to me right away. No parts yet !

[blemaxx]

just a few but nothing that I couldn't run without. look back a few pages you will see what most people didn't get.

[Dman_Pyro]

hey I've got a lightning rr (its a speed demon) I havent really read anything on this fourm but where is the best online lace to get parts for this car? I'm mainly looking for a steering arm, the full screw set, and the steering arm fixing set.

[Carmmond]

Well I went back to Hobbytown and they opened up another kit and gave me the parts I needed and are going to order the parts for the other kit. Then the manager gave me a fuel filter for my problems! They have set me up big time and have my business from now on... darn good LHS:D

The parts I was missing were

Ball with flat that you push into the back of the front steering bar.
Two pices behind the plastic dome pices on the break linkage.

Time to go break this thing in......

[blemaxx]

Originally posted by Dman_Pyro
hey I've got a lightning rr (its a speed demon) I havent really read anything on this fourm but where is the best online lace to get parts for this car? I'm mainly looking for a steering arm, the full screw set, and the steering arm fixing set.

For the screws goto http://www.rcscrewz.com/ They have a set just for the lightning. For parts look back I think 1or 2 pages good list of stores for them.

[tomkrazy]

is the Hitech- 650bb a good enought sterring servo?

also what weight shock oil is everyone using?
is the stock okay? what is stock?
my buggy is Brand new and seems to be drooping a little already

Thanks
guys



Tom

[Norm1968]

tomkrazy, I'm not sure what the specs are for the 650bb Hitec. I run a Hitec 645 MG for steering on my Pro and it does a great job. Because of the weight, speed and types of tracks 1/8th buggies run on I would suggest a high torque metal gear servo with decent transit speed.

As for shock oils, I've heard that HB uses 35wt oil all around. Personally I run 40wt front and 30wt rear and preload my springs for the cvd's to be level. Your chassis will bottom no matter what going off jumps.

Parts seem to be hard to get anywhere. My LHS told me that according to HB they are having problems with the new HB Dirt Demon so the factory is concentrating on fixing all it's problems and the Lightning and all the owners are suffering for it. Several racers (myself included) have tried to contact Ricky's RC both by phone and email with no success. I know I have the right number and email as I've talked to them and order parts before. Hope I don't have to concider selling my Pro and going for "Another" brand.....my Pro is the greatest.....come on HB support the Lightning better.:mad:

[Dman_Pyro]

WHAT ARE THE BEST PLACES TO GET PARTS FOR THEM THOUGH?

whats the most air you should be able to get with these buggys and not break anything?

Whats the biggest jump that wont break anything when you go full speed off it?

[Carmmond]

Originally posted by Dman_Pyro

whats the most air you should be able to get with these buggys and not break anything?

Whats the biggest jump that wont break anything when you go full speed off it?

Look on page 20 for the post by NitoIgniter and see what you can do if you know what you are doing. This being my first RC I could probably kill it off a 2 inch high jump:D

Got 4 tanks in last night and I'm having a blast with it. I did learn to check the wheel nuts after every tank though.

[Dman_Pyro]

ya those nuts are frusterating they come off a bunch if you dont check them. becareful they can start fire to lol. I nearly started mine on fire.

[CRSMP5]

http://www.brownshobbyshop.com

the track i race at has bookoo parts in stock now above link..

and my LHS which is not on the web also has alot of parts.. their # is 330-793-9233 austintown hobby shop, they are a little slow but if you have a part # they have a box full of lightning stuff that i went thru one day, just to see what they had, and they have ALOT of misc stuff for one.

i posted that on page 21 also... note they are 2 different places..

[Juice]

So guys, now that the X5 is out, has anyone seen it run and what did you think of it?? Im still thinking for the money though the Lightning is still hard to beat

[blemaxx]

If you are thinking about money then I see No choice other than the pro. Don't forget with any R/C you will break parts! i.e.. wing and wing mount on the pro. so save a few bucks for them parts. But that's just me

[Dman_Pyro]

um.. I cant find anything at browns! Anyone else know any good sites?? I need mainly a steering arm and steering arm fixing parts (they are actually screws.)

[Dman_Pyro]

Which is better the lightning rr or the lightning pro?
Whats the diffrence?
How much would it cost for the ones thats not better to become as good as the other?
How do you know what you have ? I believe I ordered the rr but I cant tell the difference.

[kyoshofan420]

The pro is the better model. It has aluminum suspension holders, braces, a better chassis and steering knuckles. It also has different tires. Better shock towers and shocks too. The pro doesn't come with a radio or electronics though. The will add up if upgrading to a pro plus parts will be hard to get if your lhs doesn't have any. You might try to cancel the order for the rr and get the pro instead, but its your call. Hope this helped:)

[kyoshofan420]

I had a question for you guys. Have any of you ordered receiver packs from onlybatterypacks.com? I placed an order last wed and I have not received it. Any help will be appreciated:)

[Carmmond]

Originally posted by Dman_Pyro
um.. I cant find anything at browns! Anyone else know any good sites?? I need mainly a steering arm and steering arm fixing parts (they are actually screws.)

Just email them with the part numbers and they will email you back. If I remember right CRSMP5 said they have the parts on hand but just dont list them on the sight.

[Carmmond]

One qustion for you all. I broke in the engine like they said to do. On the 4th tank I leaned it out a half a turn on the high and low speed settings like they said. It cut out on me 3 times. Should I run richer for longer than the book said?

[blemaxx]

Originally posted by Dman_Pyro
um.. I cant find anything at browns! Anyone else know any good sites?? I need mainly a steering arm and steering arm fixing parts (they are actually screws.)

You have to call or email them they don't list the parts but they do have them

[Jeff Cain]

Steering arms? You mean these?

http://www2.gpmd.com/image/k/kyoc4400.jpg

These fit. Found here:http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXU550&P=Z

[Dman_Pyro]

ok I'll e-mail brown. and yes those are what I'm looking for.

[Dman_Pyro]

what is brown hobbies e-mail?I'd rather e-mail them.

[Jeff Cain]

Originally posted by Carmmond
One qustion for you all. I broke in the engine like they said to do. On the 4th tank I leaned it out a half a turn on the high and low speed settings like they said. It cut out on me 3 times. Should I run richer for longer than the book said?

Wow, where do we start? OK, basic engine tuning 101. I'm just gonna rip this from my LHS' web page. (btw their Pro price has only gone up to $310)

"First, get the car up to operating temperature. Starting at factory settings, do some high speed passes. Did the car reach its top speed? You should be able to hear the engine 'clear out' at high speeds and sound clean and smooth. If it does not, lean the high-end needle 1/8 turn, let the carb settings take effect, and then try another pass. Do this until the engine clears out at top speed.
If the engine sounds like it's starving for fuel or loses power at high RPM, the high-end needle is too lean. Richen the high-end needle 1/2 turn and then repeat the above process.

Now to set the low-end needle. Let the car idle for ten seconds and then punch the throttle. Did the car accelerate off the line without 'bogging down?' If not, lean the low-end needle 1/8 turn, run the car for about a minute to let the carb settings take effect, and try again. You should be able to get the car to jump off the line with little hesitation.

You should always keep an eye on the temperature of your engine, especially while tuning. If you do not have a temp gauge, you can use the 'spit test.' Since spit has about the same boiling point as water, 212° F, how the spit reacts to the engine's head is a great indicator of the engine's temperature. If your spit has little reaction, you are under 212°. If it sizzles and evaporates in only a few seconds,the temperature is too high. At best, you want the spit to sit there and slowly simmer for several seconds.

The other thing to watch for is smoke. The amount of smoke coming from the exhaust will depend on your fuel brand, but all fuels should smoke during acceleration. If your engine does not, it is probably too lean and should be readjusted.

Please note that nitro engine tuning is not an exact science, and there is no instruction manual that can replicate the usefulness of experience. I've found that 'if in doubt, change your glo-plug.' Just be sure to take your time, follow the instructions included with the car, and, coupled with the preceding information, you should be able to conquer the beast of nitro engine tuning.
Keep in mind that it's always better to be too rich than too lean."

[CRSMP5]

honestly i do not know if he checks his email or not.. id call them.. one of the other members called them up and got some stuff..


the austin town hobbies does not have the lightning arms.. BUT they do have the GS storm 7075 ones on the back wall... :D its good that i go loking thru the dusty packages right??

[Carmmond]

Jeff the spit test turns out like this. At the top of the head it just sits and don’t boil but on the sides at the bottom it does.... sounds like its working to me. Top end.... not sure I have about a 150yard run and I have to slow down for the turn but it runs good (bat out of hell). Low end sounds like I may need to lean it some. I will wait and run rich and change it later.... "better rich than lean". I guess I was just wondering if it was too early to start the leaning process (4 tanks). Unfortunately I got Trinity fuel from the LHS and from past posts I need to get better fuel, I just need to find it. What type of fuel are you all running?

Thanks CRSMP5 for clearing that up and sorry I gave the wrong advice.

[CRSMP5]

np.. i was just wanting to mak esure everyone knew.. i was just telling of 2 places i know with parts... cause as we all know.. they are hard to find..

[blemaxx]

Anyone know what size the shock shafts on the pro are? I want to order the alu. ones that racers edge makes. Thanks

[Jeff Cain]

Originally posted by Carmmond
Jeff the spit test turns out like this. At the top of the head it just sits and don’t boil but on the sides at the bottom it does.... sounds like its working to me. Top end.... not sure I have about a 150yard run and I have to slow down for the turn but it runs good (bat out of hell). Low end sounds like I may need to lean it some. I will wait and run rich and change it later.... "better rich than lean". I guess I was just wondering if it was too early to start the leaning process (4 tanks). Unfortunately I got Trinity fuel from the LHS and from past posts I need to get better fuel, I just need to find it. What type of fuel are you all running?

Thanks CRSMP5 for clearing that up and sorry I gave the wrong advice.

Sounds like you've ran a couple three more, so you could probably race tune it now. It should boil on the top "fin". Not crackle, dance, and pop boil, and not just sit there, but a nice sizzle. Run it for a minimum of 30-60 seconds between tweaks of the top end. Make sure you have the top end needle set before you tackle the bottom end. On the bottom, run her out and back to clear out the system, and let it sit and idle for 20-30 seconds, it should launch when you then nut it. If it slowly loads up then dies, it's too rich. Lean it out in 1/16 to 1/8 turn increments and repeat the process. Soon it will hold a steady idle, but hesitate a tad when you nut it. Still a tad too rich. Now you want the bottom end to respond the same whether you stop for less than a second or for 30 seconds. You'll never reach perfection, but you'll get it close enough. If it clears out on the top end and idles reliably, call it good and go worry about haveing FUN with it.

For fuel I run SIG Intimidator.

[tomkrazy]

Originally posted by Dman_Pyro
ya those nuts are frusterating they come off a bunch if you dont check them. becareful they can start fire to lol. I nearly started mine on fire.

Okay, i am glad i am the not the only one having there troubles.
is there anything i can do. i literally am on my 3rd tank just cruising around slowly and bam, my wheel cam off.

any fixes for this?

could i use a dap of quick dry glue on them? just a thought

thanks

Tom :confused:

[CRSMP5]

hmm this is not really alloed on these forums i think.. but i better pass thsi on... if your doing the spit test it works good.. but how about 35$ temp gun from radio shack (http://www.radioshack.com/product.asp?catalog%5Fname=CTLG&category%5Fname=&product%5Fid=22%2D325)? they are on sale till like the 20th of sept...

it may not have a laser pointer and all.. but it does work good, but the 35 i stated includes cost of the batt and tax...

also i use a socket and rachet on mine since the 1 time i lost a wheel.. and now i check them after every 2 tanks.. seems to not get loose now..

[romulus]

I have the same temp gun from radio shack. Yeah, I paid about the same 6 months ago. I found that temp gun since I didn't wanted to paid $80 for a regular gun at that time when other small $40 pocket guns were not in the the market yet. Anyway, it works really good. I compared a known temperature with a $400 temp gun from work and the little one is just off by 2 or 3 degres. Not too bad since we are interested in knowing the overall engine temperature. By the way, is not as accurate at longer distance of 5 feet. Like we care in our application. Anyway, If you plan to get it, you won't be dissapointed.
Cheers;)

[k_bojar]

Originally posted by tomkrazy
so what Radio is everyone using?
am? or what?

What about high torgue servo?
what speed? how much torgue.

thanks Gang

:)

T

I'm sure this has been answered already but...

You'll wanna spend the extra few $$ for an FM - especially even some of the newer "low end" radios come with multiple models for multiple cars

As far as the servos, you'll want something with over 100 oz of torque...I know someone posted you could do with 80 oz, but I'd go with 100 to be on the safe side - nothing worse than in the middle of a big race and blowing up a servo...I run a Hitec metal gear digital servos in mine...About 110ish oz of torque and a very fast transit time - a little less than .1 sec

Because of the tires and the weight of the car - a stronger servos is the way to go :D and Especially if you get into racing the buggy - a 15/20/30/45 minute main would definitely take its toll on the steering servo

[k_bojar]

Originally posted by Aldalo
I was missing the threaded rods for my throttle & brake
linkage.
Anyone else have parts missing from there lightning pro?
I called HotBodies two weeks ago, said they would ship them
to me right away. No parts yet !

Give it a little longer...the parts come standard ground via UPS - You'd think it would be cheaper for them to send it via USPS, but they use UPS

Mine took about 2 weeks when I called them too, of course I called before the Lightning became to popular :D

[Carmmond]

Dang it wife said no more money on this car:D Ok you all talked me into the temp gun. They have it in stock at the shack on the way home. What temp range should I be aiming for?

[romulus]

you should aim for 230 to 250 F at the glow plug.

[CRSMP5]

till last fri they were normal 50$ price.. but ive known for a month that they were going on sale so been waiting.. got mine fri.. but tell your rc friends.. they will be on sale till the 20th or so.. so now is the time to stock up, also people in canada... your not so lucky up there to have that item.. sorry.. BUT you coudl always Pm one of us nice gentalmen and we could always hook ya up..

also tell the wife it is not for it.. it can be used on it.. but think of all the other RC cars you can use it on, things around the house like the air around your thermostat vs bed room.. :D so you know why shes cold at night...

[Aldalo]

My parts arrived from Hot Bodies,
they threw in a c cell glow starter !
Now I have a back up for my nicad one.

Hot Bodies is all right by me !!

[Wakegod]

I just picked up one of the temp gauges at Radio Shack, thanks for the tip :)
I was just wondering where I should be taking the reading. Looking down on the glow plug or from the side beneath the heat sink? I know for sure I was way too lean, so I'm glad I picked it up, cause I was getting readings around 300-312 when I first started tuning today. I richened up my motor quite a bit and it still runs decent. I do have a serious problem restarting my motor when hot though, any suggestions? Or was that a side effect of being too lean and thus too hot?

[blemaxx]

point it down by the glow plug.

[CRSMP5]

stock 21bb engine? what ive found with savage owners is when the engine is hot, the aluminum carb gets hot, it boils the fuel and will not allow a savage to be reprimed or anything else till it cools for 15min or so... i bet since you were running 310ish.. the carb was way to hot and boiled the fuel..

2 solutions.. 1 richen it keep temps down.. most logical, even though ill be first to admit the 8 port race does not wake up till it hits 300, and i have no idea what my 21bb was running fo ra temp, but i can say after a 8 min run on the track, with cracked block i was getting a temp of 245 after the 1min not moving too much as i go retreive the car from the drivers stand.. so add 20-40 to that is my guessed temp.. that engine was running .8 sec behind a os race buggy engine, me and other driver almost equal on driving skill, but if he messed up id pass him, if i messed up he pass me.. it was one of those great races....

the 2nd option is to get a composite picco carb.. direct fit so u can lean it out more.. throw a big head on it and run it like ya stole it.. :D

also i point it down by the glow plug but i do a sweeping motion while the button is pressed in to get the highest and lowest and most common reading you can get all kinds of numbers in 5 seconds of holding the button, then use the average find, and rember the high number or low number can be inacurate cause if the light bounced or something it makes the reading off...

also those with polished heads... like a nova, reflective surfaces bad.. they can throw the reading off also.. so i suggest the sweep for the most common number.. not just 1 point and click..

[blemaxx]

Originally posted by CRSMP5
stock 21bb engine? what ive found with savage owners is when the engine is hot, the aluminum carb gets hot, it boils the fuel and will not allow a savage to be reprimed or anything else till it cools for 15min or so... i bet since you were running 310ish.. the carb was way to hot and boiled the fuel..

2 solutions.. 1 richen it keep temps down.. most logical, even though ill be first to admit the 8 port race does not wake up till it hits 300, and i have no idea what my 21bb was running fo ra temp, but i can say after a 8 min run on the track, with cracked block i was getting a temp of 245 after the 1min not moving too much as i go retreive the car from the drivers stand.. so add 20-40 to that is my guessed temp.. that engine was running .8 sec behind a os race buggy engine, me and other driver almost equal on driving skill, but if he messed up id pass him, if i messed up he pass me.. it was one of those great races....


So you think I should run the 8port race at about 300? I just got the motor and have yet to see it run great but I have only let it go up to about 260. I also run %20.

[SpeedMunkey]

Originally posted by kyoshofan420
I had a question for you guys. Have any of you ordered receiver packs from onlybatterypacks.com? I placed an order last wed and I have not received it. Any help will be appreciated:)

I have and he was very helpful. I order on Wed, got it on Sat, raced it Sat night.

[CRSMP5]

blue... once the engine breaks in.. you will see that after a gal temps go up... so if you see a 300 temp dont flip.... i dont like 300, but mine hits it often..... after 8 min run, when i get to it its down to 250-260.... so i know it has to hit 300....

[Carmmond]

Ok guys I got the temp gauge from RShack. Another question I had is I'm running Trinity (spelling?) 20% now and I'm able to get Traxxas 20% and Blue Thunder 20%. I read way back in the first thread that Trinity was not that great. Is that still true and if so out of the three choices I have local what would you run? Also what is the normal life of a motor? Someone on the forums said 10gallons is doing good.... sounded low to me but what do I know:)

Casey it looks like we will make it down if the weather is good so I'll be looking for you. I will be going up to the Packer game in the morning and will be out of town but we should make it back to watch you run and learn about the whole race scene.

[romulus]

It depends in how you run your engine. Most of the people how races 45 minutes to hour mains gets about 5 gallon for the life of an engine. 10 gallons sounds really good. Granted some people just get 3 or less gallons if they really abuse the engine. Don't confuse about "destroying" an engine vs. wearing the piston and sleve. Once you notice the the compresion is low or has hard time idling, most likely you will need to replace the piston and sleve after that you pretty much have new engine. I have been hearing about the "squeze" method that might be a cheaper alternative. But to be honest I rather get the replacement parts to avoid the breakage of the connecting rod in the piston (dosen't get replaced, I think)

About the fuel, I run blue thunder race formula... is not bad and I noticed that the engine stay cool longer. If you get the sport formula, you will have further cooling since it has more oil content since it is recomended (as a safeguard) for the people who has not much experience is tunning the engine. In any case, as I mentioned before, just get a quart instead of a gallon first and try it out to see what works for you:) Just remember to stick with the same % of nitro content and when you switch fuels, start with the factory carb settings.
cheers!

[Casey]

Originally posted by Carmmond


Casey it looks like we will make it down if the weather is good so I'll be looking for you. I will be going up to the Packer game in the morning and will be out of town but we should make it back to watch you run and learn about the whole race scene.


We'll be there. I'm hoping to have the Hyper 7 running, but if not I'll be running the old reliable Lightning. The weather sounds like it is going to absolutely perfect for racing. You should bring your Lightning just in case there's a chance to run it on the track. In fact, you should just race it!:) There's nothing to it.

See you then. By the way, what's your name?

[Casey]

By the way, I run 20% Trinity Monster Horsepower and have had NO problems at all.

[CRSMP5]

ive been runnign traxxas 20% and the only thing i find issues with on more than 1 occasion, is it seems to corrode things in the carb.. im going to try odonnal.. i have no idea why things like on 8 port 2 gal thru it, the MSN ended up with green powder in it from corrosion, ruined that piston and sleve tryign to run it.. when it would not stay in tune i took apart the car lookign for a air leak and found it.. whats worse is it was a fresh gal of fuel

then this past weel my picco would not take fuel.. i was like ***.. pulled the HSN needle and found melted plastic lookign thin on the needle blocking the port for fuel.. and that gal was fresh also.. and had fuel filter and all..

[geo8498]

Okay, so I have to share this with all the Lightning guys out there.

Last week I was bashing around in the back field behind the school with my RTR.

Well, my radio switch had gone bad long ago, and I've bypassed the switch entirely, opting to plug the battery in. Been running like that for months now. However, this time the plugs, which are conveniently connected outside the box dangled and were disconnected from the rough terrain. My lightning goes across the field with no signal.

It heads off a ledge behind the basketball court and travels down what I refer to as a small canyon. About 40 feet descent of ruts and bolders. I heard the thing running for a long time as it bounced and tumbled like homer simpson down the canyon. Then I heard it finally screaming after landing on it's lid.

Luckily it choked out after only a few seconds, sparing the motor. I thought for sure the car was history; especially after I went to the edge to see just how far down the drop was.

I started down the gully, thinking the car only went about 20 feet and hit a rock or bush. It was nowhere to be seen. I ended up going all the way down to the bottom to finally find the car on a rock near the stream.


Only breakage to the car was... get this... a cracked suspension brace (which the kit came with a second one) a bent shock screw on the front, and a stripped steering servo gear. I fixed everything last night in about an hour. I didn't spend a penny on parts. The servo gear came from my scrap pile of burned out servos.

And, the engine is okay.

Back in action tomorrow.

(Of course, I am reconfiguring my battery wire arrangement)

I wish I had a picture so everyone could appreciate the extent of car eating rocks and bushes, let alone distance of the drop this car went through. But I have to tell you, I can't believe the car even survived.

This is one tough buggy.

[Carmmond]

Originally posted by Casey
We'll be there. I'm hoping to have the Hyper 7 running, but if not I'll be running the old reliable Lightning. The weather sounds like it is going to absolutely perfect for racing. You should bring your Lightning just in case there's a chance to run it on the track. In fact, you should just race it!:) There's nothing to it.

See you then. By the way, what's your name?

I'll bring it .... run it, I cant keep it straight:) Runs like a bat out of heII. Like I said I'll bring it down and watch you win:D

My name is Ken, wife is Carrie, brother is Scott and we will se who else follows me down: )

[Casey]

Cool, Ken. I'm looking forward to meeting you in person.

[kyoshofan420]

Has anyone changed what shocks they are using on the pro? I was at the track the other day and saw one guy bend a shock shaft pretty bad on an average jump. I was wondering if anyone has used Mugen Big Bores on theirs, or atleast which shock shafts would fit? My shocks are fine for now, but they don't seem to function as well as shocks by other brands. I am pretty sure the Mugens are expensive, but I think they will be almost bulletproof. I will appreciate any info and thanks in advance:)

[k_bojar]

Originally posted by Carmmond
...I read way back in the first thread that Trinity was not that great. Is that still true and if so out of the three choices I have local what would you run? Also what is the normal life of a motor? Someone on the forums said 10gallons is doing good.... sounded low to me but what do I know:)...

I've never heard anyone say Trinity was bad fuel...I actually use Trinity fuel in all my nitros...Been running 30% Platnium in my Lightning since I got the car - wouldn't run any other fuel...The biggest thing about fuel is the oil content..Some of the fuels dont give you a high enough oil content to protect the engine.

I am not the biggest Trinity fan on the face of the earth (had issues with their SMH batteries and a couple of electric motors) - considering the live in "my backyard" - but I wouldnt run anyone's fuel but theirs :D :)

[k_bojar]

Originally posted by kyoshofan420
Has anyone changed what shocks they are using on the pro? I was at the track the other day and saw one guy bend a shock shaft pretty bad on an average jump. I was wondering if anyone has used Mugen Big Bores on theirs, or atleast which shock shafts would fit? My shocks are fine for now, but they don't seem to function as well as shocks by other brands. I am pretty sure the Mugens are expensive, but I think they will be almost bulletproof. I will appreciate any info and thanks in advance:)

Actually anyone's shocks should work on this buggy...I've actually been throwing around the idea of switching to a threaded body shock on mine :D Just can decide who's :D

[STRACING]

What are some of the other places which sale the PRO version? How much are they?

I contacted RCBoyz and they are out and weren't sure when they are getting more in?

[Casey]

Originally posted by kyoshofan420
Has anyone changed what shocks they are using on the pro? I was at the track the other day and saw one guy bend a shock shaft pretty bad on an average jump. I was wondering if anyone has used Mugen Big Bores on theirs, or atleast which shock shafts would fit? My shocks are fine for now, but they don't seem to function as well as shocks by other brands. I am pretty sure the Mugens are expensive, but I think they will be almost bulletproof. I will appreciate any info and thanks in advance:)


I run the stock shocks that came on my Lightning Pro. I've had no problems with them at all. In fact, a few months back my brother and I were out at the track running my Lightning Pro against his mod Losi XXX buggy. I was out ahead of him a bit and waited at the top of a jump for him. He came cruisin' up behind me and nailed one of my rear shocks and bent the shaft pretty good. Enough that the shock wouldn't move at all. Our LHS couldn't get a replacement shaft for me in time for the next race. So what did I do? Took the shock apart, pulled the shaft and HAMMERED it back to straight just hoping it would hold for a little practice, two heats and a main. Well, it has been a few months and I still haven't replaced the "once bent" shaft and have had no problems.

[Casey]

My brother(Hyper 7 Pro owner and future Lightning PRO owner) stopped in at the Oshkosh, Wisconsin Hobbytown USA over the weekend. He was checking out the 1/8 buggies and saw the usual Kyoshos, Mugens and Ofnas but NO Lightning. When he asked one of the store employees if they ever carry the Lightning, the employee responded with "No, they're just not competitive. We don't carry the Lightning or the Axis." Lightning and Axis in the same sentence?:eek: My brother proceeds to tell the employee that his brother(me:D ) races a Lightning Pro weekly against a Kanaii II, Mugen MBX5, some MBX4s, etc., etc. and does really well with it. Any cheeseheads up for a road trip to the Oshkosh HobbyTown off-road track?

[Casey]

OK guys. Maybe you can give me a hand with my Hyper 7 problem. You Lightning guys are a pretty friendly bunch.

A little history first. I ran my Hyper 7 for our LHS first race of the year. Actually only the first heat of the first race. Buggy died on me and wouldn't re-fire so I ran my Lightning. The next day I try the Hyper and it fires right up. I run a full tank through it no problem and put it away. The next time I tried to start it I had problems. Took forever to prime it, the fuel just crawled up to the carb. Give it just a hair of throttle like usual to start it and the fuel goes rushing back to the fuel tank. I'm thinking it must be a leak somewhere so I pull the engine, seal everything up good and replace the fuel lines. Let everything cure and tried it the next day with the exact same result. Fuel barely moves up to the carb, just a touch of throttle and it cruises back down the fuel line to the tank. Eventually, I figured I wrecked my Hyper 21 from turning it over on the starter box with no fuel/lubricant in it and yanked it. Put in a brand new OS 21 RG and the problem continues. The only thing I haven't messed with yet is the fuel tank, so I replace the cap seal. Still no luck. Next I replace the tank itself. Still no luck. Forgot to mention I also installed a new Ofna one-piece pipe & header. Thought maybe that wasn't sealing up right but after several checks and even going back to the stock header/pipe STILL no luck. I have now replaced the engine, pipe/header, fuel tank, and fuel line. Last night I thought maybe the fuel filter was leaking. Cut a new piece of line and tried to start it without a filter, and still have the same problem.

I can get the OS to crack off, but as soon as I give it throttle the fuel runs back to the tank and the engine quits. If I don't give it throttle, it uses what little fuel made it to the carb and then quits. I can't figure this thing out at all, and I'm feeling like a real idiot.:confused: It has to be some simple stupid thing that I'm just not thinking of.

Someone please come to my rescue! In the eight or nine other nitros I've owned, I have never had a problem like this.

[SpeedMunkey]

lol! Oh man, I'd love to go, but sadly I'm a few states south of ya =(

[SpeedMunkey]

First, 2 words: DAMN OFNAS!

Now, 3 more words: HOT BODIES RULES!

Ok, now that THAT is out of my system... Do you run a fuel filter? What happens if you prime it without it installed? Is the air filter cleaned? What happens if you prime it with the tank lid open?

[k_bojar]

Originally posted by STRACING
What are some of the other places which sale the PRO version? How much are they?

I contacted RCBoyz and they are out and weren't sure when they are getting more in?

I know Pottbelly's RC has them in...Not sure what were are chargine for them, but I know we have at least 2 Pro kits in stock - we dont get the RTR's anymore :D

Shoot slamminsam an email at samlairson@lairson.com and get the price and shipping info from him

[k_bojar]

Originally posted by Casey
My brother(Hyper 7 Pro owner and future Lightning PRO owner) stopped in at the Oshkosh, Wisconsin Hobbytown USA over the weekend. He was checking out the 1/8 buggies and saw the usual Kyoshos, Mugens and Ofnas but NO Lightning. When he asked one of the store employees if they ever carry the Lightning, the employee responded with "No, they're just not competitive. We don't carry the Lightning or the Axis." Lightning and Axis in the same sentence?:eek: My brother proceeds to tell the employee that his brother(me:D ) races a Lightning Pro weekly against a Kanaii II, Mugen MBX5, some MBX4s, etc., etc. and does really well with it. Any cheeseheads up for a road trip to the Oshkosh HobbyTown off-road track?

That just goes to show the mentality of some track owners...If it dont run at their track or they dont know the name - then its sucks of a POS...What a f'ing narrow mind :mad:

I say go for it Casey, go down and kick the little asses...Get beat because someone is a better driver, not because the car cant hang...We all know it can, time to start convincing everyone else that this is more than a "basher" buggy :D:)

BTW, if I was closer I'd be right there with you :) Love to race against some real competition and show them what I and this buggy can do :D:)

[Casey]

Originally posted by SpeedMunkey
First, 2 words: DAMN OFNAS!

Now, 3 more words: HOT BODIES RULES!

Ok, now that THAT is out of my system... Do you run a fuel filter? What happens if you prime it without it installed? Is the air filter cleaned? What happens if you prime it with the tank lid open?


Yep, I run a fuel filter.

I removed the fuel filter and the fuel line on each end of it. I cut a brand new piece the same length as the total length of the line/filter/line, but didn't put the fuel filter on. I did that to see if the fuel filter had a leak. Apparently not the problem.

Air filter is a brand new O.S. Never seen dirt.

As far as priming it with the tank lid open, that would not work. The pressure from the pipe is what pushes the fuel to the carb. If the tank lid is open, there would be no pressure at all.

[CRSMP5]

austin town hobbies or browns hobbies had pros in stock.. but they are over the 350 mark..

[romulus]

Casey,
First of all, I respect your knowledge of r/c, nitro engines, driving skill, etc… But sometimes we have to ask people around to see if we missed something. So I hope that my comments can help you.
Now, let see… New fuel tank, seals, fuel lines, two different engines and give throttle the fuel goes back to the tank.
Here are my suggestions:
1 If you can, try to start the engine using the HB lightning tank. I know it my not be a bolt on but at least you can see if the problems still there with a “known” working tank.
2 I am sure that you already have checked fuel lines connections – pressure line from the pipe to the tank. Just in case
3 This might be sound weird and nonsense. Is your engine spins in the right direction?? I am not sure if you are using the same starter box for your HB or a separate one. Check the starter motor leads for the right direction. I don’t remember where I read a similar problem but people have wired their starter box backwards and they were able to start the engine but as soon as apply throttle, fuel go back to the tank. Because instead of the pipe providing pressure to the tank, by running backwards the pressure line becomes a vacuum line and so it will suck the fuel out from the engine. I think that is your problem. Since you already tried two different engines with the same results. I hope that you will able to solve the problem… I don’t believe that your hyper 7 is jinxed.
Let me know what you found out.
romulus

[Casey]

Well, I figured it out and man do I feel stupid. I figured since the Hyper wasn't running I'd snag the new one-piece pipe(Ofna 063) for the Lightning. Went to start the Lightning to tune it to the new pipe and BINGO.....same problem as the Hyper. That pretty much narrowed it down to the pipe. I pulled the pipe and did a blow test. Blew into the stinger and air came out of the header. Then I plugged the header which should leave the only exit for air at the tank pressure nipple. Guess what? NO AIR!! Must be welded closed. Wish I would have done this simple test months ago. I guess if the Lightning hadn't have been so reliable, I may have been more persistent in finding the problem. Now I just need to find a header that will fit the OS RG 21. I believe the stock 21 BB header is a smaller diameter and won't fit. I haven't dug it out yet to make sure. Thanks guys for your input.

[romulus]

Where is Ofna quality control? I guess not. At least you found out the problem. But I still don’t get why the fuel went back to the tank with a plugged pressure nipple. I guess that I should try it out by pinching the pressure line.

[Casey]

Stock 21 BB header is a PERFECT fit for the OS 21 RG. I'll work on it more tomorrow. Got the kids' open house at school to go to.

[kyoshofan420]

Thanks for the help guys:)

[Dman_Pyro]

what kind of things should I add to my lightning that can make it faster other than a new/larger engine?

[Casey]

Originally posted by Dman_Pyro
what kind of things should I add to my lightning that can make it faster other than a new/larger engine?


You could try a new tuned pipe. Some are tuned for low-end torque, some for high-end speed, and some are a happy medium.

[Dman_Pyro]

where could I get one for speed?

[STRACING]

I know Pottbelly's RC has them in...Not sure what were are chargine for them, but I know we have at least 2 Pro kits in stock - we dont get the RTR's anymore



Thanks for the info. I sent him an email this morning.

[k_bojar]

Originally posted by Casey
Stock 21 BB header is a PERFECT fit for the OS 21 RG. I'll work on it more tomorrow. Got the kids' open house at school to go to.

Yea, the HB header pipe will fit the OS without any problems...I've actually been running mine that way since I swapped out engines 3 months ago :):D

Gotta love that OS :D:D

[k_bojar]

Originally posted by Dman_Pyro
where could I get one for speed?

Why do you just want speed???? Speed dont mean crap without control or set-up...Learn how to use the buggy first then worry about speed

[Dman_Pyro]

I know how to use the buggy I've had it for a month or 2 now. And while I'm ordering parts I would like to get some things to make it go faster so I can win racers against 1/10th scale stadium trucks. They're fast and I'm not sure they are beat able witrh this buggy so I'd like to upgrade it faster so I can.

[CRSMP5]

shoot.. my 21bb with cracked block was .8 sec behind a os lightning... and id say we were both close to same level of druiving skill.. aka 1 messed up other passed.. i did all i can with the 21bb as far as speed.. so i stepped up to a 8 port.. its faster.. got to relearn how to jump and stuff... all that changes... buggy seems much much more stable with the 21bb over a picco or 8 port though..

speed how to go faster... try a bigger cb.. liek a 15t cb.. ive tried the 14t, 16t, 17t, and 18t in it and will probally drop it back to the 16t cause a 18t is way too much... and the 21bb could handle the 16t with little hesitation..

the ofna vented cb are perfect fit.. NOT.. you will need the shim kit also for 5$, the gear section is longer and to use the stock flywheel set up will need one of the small spacers used..

also savage flywheels, the mugen 3 shoe fits and does not require the shim kit for the spacer.. just the shims are required.. if you use a starter box, the mugen is bigger in diameter also so it will have to be reset..

[SpeedMunkey]

an awesome low-mid range pipe for the .21BB is the THS pipe. I got one lastnight, took my Lightning out to the track which was dry, dusty and rough (it is normally tacky and smooth), ran a few laps and was quite pleased. Then, after running a few more, a guy I race with came up to me with a stopwatch and asked me if I realized how fast I was going. Apparently, I turned 3 laps in 14.30 seconds. That is .62 seconds faster than my qualifying time lastweek on a properly manicured track. We kept trying and I turned a 14.78 and a 14.44, both of which were still better than last week's qualifying which put me in the B-main. The 14.30 would have put me in the A-main with the 3rd best time. I was running knobby tires (the stock Lightning Pro meats) where normally I'd be running on foams. I cannot wait to see this thing run properly tomorrow night!

THS pipes - a DEFINITE keeper.

[Casey]

Hey fellow Lightning owners. I got my O.S. 21 RG fired up and broken in on my Hyper 7 this morning. Still can't believe I waited as long as I did to dive into it and find the problem. I'm going to make a phone call to see if I can exchange the pipe for one that works. Thanks everyone for your input in trying to help me out.

By the way, this O.S. 21 RG is one sweet little engine. I've never owned an O.S. before, but have always heard good things about them. Very pleased so far. I'm going to take it out to the track this weekend and run it like I'm racing it. Our LHS is having a big Labor Day race and I'm not sure which buggy to run yet. I know what I can do with my Lightning, but I'd really like to run the Hyper 7 for my wife's sake. Just not sure how I'd do with it.

Thanks again! Everyone have a good and safe weekend.

[Casey]

Originally posted by k_bojar
Yea, the HB header pipe will fit the OS without any problems...I've actually been running mine that way since I swapped out engines 3 months ago :):D

Gotta love that OS :D:D


Did you have to change engine mounts to install the OS? The stock mounts only let you adjust engine placement side-to-side. When I blew the 21 BB, I had the new O.S. and a used Hyper 21. The Hyper was a direct drop-in, but I think my O.S. would have sat too far forward so I didn't use it in the Lightning.

[k_bojar]

Originally posted by Casey
Did you have to change engine mounts to install the OS? The stock mounts only let you adjust engine placement side-to-side. When I blew the 21 BB, I had the new O.S. and a used Hyper 21. The Hyper was a direct drop-in, but I think my O.S. would have sat too far forward so I didn't use it in the Lightning.

Nope...As far as I remember, I used the stock engine mounts...Nothing fancy :)

Originally posted by Dman_Pyro
I know how to use the buggy I've had it for a month or 2 now. And while I'm ordering parts I would like to get some things to make it go faster so I can win racers against 1/10th scale stadium trucks. They're fast and I'm not sure they are beat able witrh this buggy so I'd like to upgrade it faster so I can.[/b]

The 10th scale WILL be faster because they are lighter and more nimble...the 8th scale will be faster down the straights,...I dunno why you are trying to race against a 10th scale anyways :D

[CRSMP5]

the os is a direct drop in a savage.. so it will fit the lightning mounts with NO issues at all..

[Dman_Pyro]

Originally posted by k_bojar
Nope...As far as I remember, I used the stock engine mounts...Nothing fancy :)



The 10th scale WILL be faster because they are lighter and more nimble...the 8th scale will be faster down the straights,...I dunno why you are trying to race against a 10th scale anyways :D

No I think I have the 1/10 th scales beat. I've been watching 1/10 .10 engine 1/10 .15 and a 1/10 .17 the .15 is the fastest at least he thinks so. But I'm sure I can beat him I took mine out will its broken becuz we though it was on sturdy and I showed them half speed and they all surrendured.

So where do you get these things? I need sites, pictures, and prices. I look find something I want and they redirect me to another site after a week then I get redirected from that. I finally made it to a business that makes the stuff and found a cheap pair of ofna excels.

Also should I be able to beat a corono prima? My cuz got this car hes making it from scratch what fun...NOT..

[blemaxx]

Try:
http://www.nitrohouse.com/
https://www.acehardwarehobbies.com
http://www.towerhobbies.com/
http://www.stormerhobbies.com/
Just to name some

[Digit]

hi guys, i just got a lightning RR RTR as a gift and i have been into onroad for around 5 years now, so i know about nitro and tuning...ANYWAYZ, to get back to the point, i want to get an ofna hyper .21 8 port race w/out pull start. i just wanted to know if the stock rtr stuff can handle the power.also what will i need to accompany this engine?like mounts,shims,etc. and, what is the diff. between the 8-port and the 8-port race?the latter is 30 bux more and doesnt even have a p/s, not that i want one :rolleyes:

[CRSMP5]

.2hp, no pull start avaliable in the USA on the race, bigger internal crank dementions and bearings, bigger cooling head..

IMO the head is worth the 30$ differance...

mounts in just fine, i will always suggest a ofna shim kit though for the CB...

will it handle it yes.. BUT i highly suggest some diff lock oil, front chassis brace, and better steering servo.. ive heard the stock one is pretty crappy in the RTR version.

you may also want to buy a spare set of brake rotors and add in the 2nd front like a pro has to try to stop the speed demond..

just make sure to watch out for the walls and other items that can do damage to the buggy.. cause it will be lots faster..

[charlesd]

I just got my Lightning pro. I'm still breaking it in and i'm very impressed.

I have one question though -- I find the suspension very soft. We have several big jumps at the track and i'm sure that the lightning will bottom out. The buggy will reach about 4 feet in the air.

My question is -- how did you guys set up your suspension on the pro as not to bottom out. Do you think just adding the thick spacer will be enough?

[Casey]

Suspension set-up is mostly driver preference. On our track, which is bumpy, I like running my suspension soft. As far as bottoming out, that is just a normal buggy thing. Even with stiffer springs it is still going to happen. You should see the bottom of my Lightning's chassis. It is almost completely silver now. I regularly jump this thing 6-8 feet high and 20-30 feet in distance. No problems even with the soft springs. These 1/8 buggies are tough as nails, and the Lightning is no exception.

[Casey]

As you can see, there's just a little bit of the original coppery color left on the sides of the chassis.

[Casey]

How about a picture...

[CRSMP5]

mine looks just as bad..

i have a set of GS springs being shipped to me though.. the duel rate ones.. to see what that does.. basically 20$ worth of springs.. 6 for each shock, and it works by using a small spring for a spacer, and a longer one for the rest of it.. once i get them ill post some pics..

[charlesd]

Thanks for the reply. I guess i'll just test different settings for optimal handling on our track.

[Casey]

Originally posted by charlesd
Thanks for the reply. I guess i'll just test different settings for optimal handling on our track.


Yep, that's the best thing to do. Some of the guys at our track run pretty stiff springs and their buggies seem to bounce around alot(in my opinion). My Lightning seems to just soak up the bumps. Again, alot of suspension tuning is driver preference.

[Carmmond]

Casey check your PM.

[Jeff Cain]

Casey you da man, that looks awesome!

[CRSMP5]

some new pics...

http://members.aol.com/sxuldveight/rc/light_3/1.jpg
http://members.aol.com/sxuldveight/rc/light_3/2.jpg
http://members.aol.com/sxuldveight/rc/light_3/3.jpg

ok.. this one is spaz paint job except windows which is pactrics candy blue.. what is it..

2 coats of holigraphic, backed in color change purpal, red, orange, then backed in the normal black.. i did a chrome and candy blue skull on the hood under the front window..

wheels are Kyosho with proline knuckles...
in the pic it has the picco still installed in it..

when i get my gs springs ill do some photos with the other wheels and tires i have along with a different bod.. ;)

[blemaxx]

Nice a new front page on HB site http://www.hotbodiesonline.net/

[CRSMP5]

:D most of th elinks on the home page still are non functional..

[Dman_Pyro]

Originally posted by Jeff Cain
Casey you da man, that looks awesome!


No I'm Dman lol j/j

Anywayz my lightning just crushed the 1/10th scales whooooooohooooooo. But one Eric is getting a 22 tooth clutch bell. Which (he thinks) will make it excel better. But I believe it'll just make him faster. But who knows. anywayz I dont plan on loosin so do you guys think a 17 tooth clutch bell will make mine faster or is there a larger one to make it faster?

[CRSMP5]

can fit up to a 18tcb before mods to engine sliders is required....

[k_bojar]

Originally posted by Dman_Pyro
No I think I have the 1/10 th scales beat. I've been watching 1/10 .10 engine 1/10 .15 and a 1/10 .17 the .15 is the fastest at least he thinks so. But I'm sure I can beat him I took mine out will its broken becuz we though it was on sturdy and I showed them half speed and they all surrendured.

So where do you get these things? I need sites, pictures, and prices. I look find something I want and they redirect me to another site after a week then I get redirected from that. I finally made it to a business that makes the stuff and found a cheap pair of ofna excels.

Also should I be able to beat a corono prima? My cuz got this car hes making it from scratch what fun...NOT..

Gawd do I so wanna tell you that you are an idiot.....:mad:

What kind of things are you looking for?? and what site keeps redirecting you??? You best bet for finding parts is you local hobby shop or (at worse case) Tower Hobbies....If Tower doesnt carry it, odds are it dont exist

About beating the Corono (Crono, maybe??) Depends, are you a better driver than him?? Odds are if the dude owns a Crono, he's been into racing for a while - 8th scale buggy - or should I say 8th scale buggy RACING - is more than a game of horsepower, you have to learn how to set-up the buggy and drive to track...I've beaten guys running big horsepower engines, some that out rate me engine by almost 1hp - and I beat them by staying on the track and driving the buggy...

[k_bojar]

Originally posted by CRSMP5
can fit up to a 18tcb before mods to engine sliders is required....

Just remember that each tooth you add takes away some of the torque for getting the buggy quickly outta a corner :):D

[Dman_Pyro]

No I must not be an idiot becuz I did end up beating both of the stadium trucks. And the crono the dude that owns it is my cousin he just got into this hobby so hes new with it all. And I just drive down the road and not like at a track so I dont worry about track things. But My town might be getting a track but by then I'm going to make my own car from different parts. it'll take some work but I will have help and anyone that wants to help me try to find an engine, servos, controller and all can e-mail or instany message me. I'm going to try to make a buggy from different teams. But I'm not so sure on what I want to get I know I was somethingthat can handle a .26 engine or larger (if there is?) so if anyone wants to help e-mal me.

[CRSMP5]

i have the picco 26 in it witht eh 18t cb... :D it has no problem on bottom end.. just 18t cb is way way to big for the track i use..

[charlesd]

I'll be making an emergency kit for my Lightning pro. I know i want to get an extra wing and wing mounts. What should i get as spare parts??? There's no hobby shop close by so i have to have a pretty good kit.

Thanks

[blemaxx]

Originally posted by charlesd
I'll be making an emergency kit for my Lightning pro. I know i want to get an extra wing and wing mounts. What should i get as spare parts??? There's no hobby shop close by so i have to have a pretty good kit.

Thanks

Well for me I have broke about 6 wing mounts so I always ahve a few extra. I also just broke the shock end/ball (#C8100) But this is not the right part they don't even make the part so I was told by HB so I got a set of alum. Racers Edge comming. Rims I broke fast(went with pro-line dish). I got an extra set of arms just because the hobby around me didn't sell HB stuff. I also just got extra Kyosho diff. gears. I have had a few HB ones but with the Hyper 8port race I was told the Kyosho ones last longer. E-clips. Last was the front bumper. That's it for me but most of my stuff I broke was doing stupid stuff like 10-15 foot front flips. At the track only wing mounts!

[turbo94]

Hello everybody ! I'm new to this forum and I can say it's probably the most informative forums out here... I'm not new to R/C or Nitro; I interested in 1/8 buggy now. The Lightning Pro seems to be the way to go. My LHS doesn't carry the Lightning Pro but I did find one at Ebay http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3144117767 I was wondering if it was anyone here in this forum. Thanks.

[SpeedMunkey]

Hey guys, I just put my Lightning Pro and support equipment up for sale right here: http://www.radiocontrolzone.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=139899

Lemme know ASAP if you are interested as it goes up on the bulletin board at my LHS on the way home from work today and things there don't last long.

[tomkrazy]

HEY GANG

WHAT BODIES FIT THIS?
JUST THE BODY THAT IT COMES WITH?

OR WHEN I AM AT MY LHS CAN I LOOK AT OTHER BODIES FROM OTHER BUGGIES THAT WILL FIT THIS BEAST.

ALSO DOES ANYONE KNOW THE LOWER IDLE SCREWS SETTING?
I HAVE MY WAY OUT OF WHACK AND I THINK IT WOULD BE BETTER TO START FROM FACTORY SETTINGS BUT I AM NOT SURE WHAT FACTORY WAS/IS.

I WOULD LIKE TO PAINT MY OWN BODY IF POSSIBLE

THANKS

TOM

[kyoshofan420]

tomkrazy, any body that fits the Kyosho 7.5, or the Ofna 9.5 will fit. A real popular body is the Proline Crowd Pleaser for the 7.5. For the low end a good start would be 2.5 turns out. On hotbodies site, under engines they list instructions for the break-in and after break-in settings. Hope this helped:) Oh yeah, and CRSMP5, nice job on the buggy.

[KandL Racing]

Hello, my name is .... oh :)

I won a Lightening RR in a R/C Club raffle over the weekend, now here to as a few questions :)

I am still in the process of breaking in the motor, I had to reset all the carb screws after I noticed the MSN was not set right. And while screwing in the LSN, the LSN kept going in and pushed the MSN out? is that right? I backed out the LSN, screwed the MSN back in to close, and back it out 3 1/2, then screwed in the LSN to close, backed out 3 1/2, then same for the HSN, but that LSN pushing out the MSN freaked me out! I evenually had to stop the breakin because my igniter ran down... I'll finish up the break in this evening.

Also read that the HPI RotoStart will work on the Lightenings? How much trouble is it to add the starter? I have a starter box for my RC10GT, and will probably eventually get a startbox for the buggy, but the rotostart is pretty cheap, just wonder if it is worth it or should i wait till get a startbox.

I've read back and made alot of notes, so hopefully I won't be posting too many questions, but all looks good so far. I hope to have this buggy on the race track this coming weekend.

[KandL Racing]

I could not find any break in help on the hotbodiesonline.net. the only "Engine" link I found was for the .18 and there was no break procedures. According to the book that came with my RR RTR, all needles s/b set to 3 1/2... this sound about right?

Added: Found the break in information on the HPI site under "Instructions", then "Nitro Star Engine Tuning" then
NitroStar 21BB instruction manual. Looks almost exactly the same as the book that came with my RR.

[Carmmond]

kyoshofan the Hotbodys web page has changed:) I still have the old link and it still is working.......

http://www.hotbodiesonline.net/tuneing.htm

Casey just wanted to say I had a blast yesterday and thanks again for the invite and info:D To bad you stalled out on the main because I think you would have had the race. You were turning mad times in that run! Of course its probly because you were behind and said what the hell.... go for it:cool:

[kyoshofan420]

Sorry about that. I have not visited the site since they changed. The savage engine the same engine though so the settings should be similar.

[Casey]

Originally posted by Carmmond
kyoshofan the Hotbodys web page has changed:) I still have the old link and it still is working.......

http://www.hotbodiesonline.net/tuneing.htm

Casey just wanted to say I had a blast yesterday and thanks again for the invite and info:D To bad you stalled out on the main because I think you would have had the race. You were turning mad times in that run! Of course its probly because you were behind and said what the hell.... go for it:cool:


Ken, it was really cool you made the trip down to check us out.

That main was UNREAL. I was thrilled to get TQ, only to have the buggy stall when the start horn sounded. Don't know why they held us all waiting there so long before starting the race. Got it started and was at least a lap down. Raced like hell because I figured I had nothing to lose. Then when I came in to pit, my son fueled me BEFORE the start/finish line. After he fueled the buggy, he picked it up to toss it back out on the track. He had it too high off the ground and the transponder didn't count a lap.

All in all, it was a great race. Came from dead last to finish 2nd. The guy from Madison that won was pretty fast, and I didn't think I could catch him after the stall. During the race I couldn't hear the announcer, so I never knew what position I was. I just drove it as hard as I could to try to make up as many positions as possible. When the race finished I was 2 laps down from the winner. Maybe without the stall and uncounted lap I could have won it. I can't believe how much time I cut off my normal lap times racing with the "nothing to lose" attitude. 3-4 seconds a lap faster.

Well, I'll let you know when we have our next Saturday race.

[CRSMP5]

sweet deal on the free buggy... also when setting the LSN make sure the throttle is open to prevent turning the MSN..

kyo thanks for the compliment..

[Dman_Pyro]

Hey does anyone know where to get a white or clear body for the buggy? I have a good idea on what I want to paint it. And I have a friend that spray painted his car and its awesome. Well it was until he got ran over by a t-maxx and a normal 1 ton car. (well u get the point) and I need some good stickers I dont really mind the company or what the sticker says but I need some cool looking ones do u guys know where to get them?

Does anyone know if excels are a good choice of tires? Because I am getting some on wednessday or thursday.

[Jeff Cain]

This one should fit

http://www2.gpmd.com/image/t/tric4708.jpg

Trinity WASP body for the MP 7.5

[Dman_Pyro]

whats the price and what site can I get it from not be sent to another site?

[Carmmond]

Originally posted by kyoshofan420
tomkrazy, any body that fits the Kyosho 7.5, or the Ofna 9.5 will fit. A real popular body is the Proline Crowd Pleaser for the 7.5. For the low end a good start would be 2.5 turns out. On hotbodies site, under engines they list instructions for the break-in and after break-in settings. Hope this helped:) Oh yeah, and CRSMP5, nice job on the buggy.

Casey was running a Kyosho Proline Crowd Pleaser for the 7.5 and it fit like a glove! Tower has it for under $23.

http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXADS8&P=0

[blemaxx]

Originally posted by Carmmond
Casey was running a Kyosho Proline Crowd Pleaser for the 7.5 and it fit like a glove! Tower has it for under $23.

http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXADS8&P=0

I run the same and it can be found at almost any shop on the net

[k_bojar]

Originally posted by Jeff Cain
This one should fit


Trinity WASP body for the MP 7.5

The Wasp body is actually a bad body to pick for the lightning...Too much hacking to get it to fit...

[KandL Racing]

What does everyone use for RX batteries in the lightning? I am considering either a set of 1800mAh Radio Shack rechargeables or some 2100mAh rechargeables from Trinity. A 5-cell pack won't fit and I don't want to buy AA's all the time.

[CRSMP5]

i have a 5 cell hump pack in mine.....

i also have the crowd pleaser bod, top of lastpage, on mine..

[KandL Racing]

Where do you have the 5cell located? I guess moving the batteries out of the receiver box would leave room to add a failsafe in there.

[k_bojar]

Originally posted by KandL Racing
Where do you have the 5cell located? I guess moving the batteries out of the receiver box would leave room to add a failsafe in there.

i have my receiver pack inside the battery box - every thing fits nicely inside the box, my receiver and receiver pack

The box is big enough to hold everything inside, the box appears to be bigger than the Kyosho box

[Aldalo]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by KandL Racing
[B]Hello, my name is .... oh :)

I won a Lightening RR in a R/C Club raffle over the weekend, now here to as a few questions :)

I am still in the process of breaking in the motor, I had to reset all the carb screws after I noticed the MSN was not set right. And while screwing in the LSN, the LSN kept going in and pushed the MSN out? is that right? I backed out the LSN, screwed the MSN back in to close, and back it out 3 1/2, then screwed in the LSN to close, backed out 3 1/2, then same for the HSN, but that LSN pushing out the MSN freaked me out! I evenually had to stop the breakin because my igniter ran down... I'll finish up the break in this evening.

Take a look - http://www.rcnitro.com/rn/articles/carburetor.asp
(the Third Needle)
The msn on my lightning moves on it's own. Gives me fits!
Set it at factory - 3 1/4 out & put a dab of JB weld on it.

[KandL Racing]

Thanks for the link and the info, good article on it. Bookmarked for future reference!

[KandL Racing]

i have my receiver pack inside the battery box - every thing fits nicely inside the box, my receiver and receiver pack

I will look at it more when I get home today. I have a 5cell for my RC10GT, so I'll see if it might fit in there. As it remember, the receiver and the 4cell holder were pretty cramped.

[Aldalo]

What could this be ?
http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXFKR5&P=0

Another Lightning? 1/7 scale?
Guess we will have to wait & see.

[CRSMP5]

sounds as if it may be onroad... kinda like ofnas 1/8 scale onroad car moddled after their buggy.. but this comes with a 26, wonder if it will have a 2 speed...

[k_bojar]

Originally posted by KandL Racing
I will look at it more when I get home today. I have a 5cell for my RC10GT, so I'll see if it might fit in there. As it remember, the receiver and the 4cell holder were pretty cramped.

I have a 5 cell 2/3 a cell hump pack inside mine - which, if I'm not mistaken, is the same as used int eh RC10GT :):D)

The 5 cell hump packs fit without a problems...Besides on a 8th scale, I dont think you'd want to have any electrics outside the battery box, especially not the receiver pack

On an additional note, I'd scrap the battery box and buy an actualy receiver pack...Its gonna end up running you about the same $$ as 4 loose cells and the receiver packs will give you a higher voltage to the electronics (6.0v vs 4.8) which is better overall for the equipment - especially inside an 8th scaler

[CRSMP5]

the 5 cell hump pack he describes is ment to fit in any area a 4AA holder will fit.. and you do not need to worry about MAH on a buggy like per say a savage.. the electronics work far less in it my lightning lasts 2-3x as long as the savage with same pack... i even swapped the packs to see if it was the pack and have same result..

[Carmmond]

Casey found some pics you may want to look at.

http://www.hobbytownoshkosh.com/RCENTRYPAGE.htm

[Casey]

Originally posted by Carmmond
Casey found some pics you may want to look at.

http://www.hobbytownoshkosh.com/RCENTRYPAGE.htm


Ken - I checked it out and would like to race there at least once this year. My father-in-law lives about 2 miles from the track, so we're up there every once in awhile.

[k_bojar]

Originally posted by CRSMP5
the 5 cell hump pack he describes is ment to fit in any area a 4AA holder will fit.. and you do not need to worry about MAH on a buggy like per say a savage.. the electronics work far less in it my lightning lasts 2-3x as long as the savage with same pack... i even swapped the packs to see if it was the pack and have same result..

How can you say that you dont need to worry about mah in a buggy over a monster truck???????????????????????

As far as I know, most buggies are actually faster than monster trucks, therefore you'd need the extra oomph to control the thing...Yea a truck has bigger wheel and stuff, but man come one...You are also only running oval with your Lightning...Bashing it or racing it on an off-road track and the electronics will work the same between the buggy and the truck - so you want the bettery power, besides the cost for each is about the same...I'd rather have the extra voltage of the 5 cell pack over the voltage outta 4 cell pack - 4.8 to 6.0 volts is a big difference...This work better and faster - servos have more torque at the higher voltage and transit times

I still would spend the money on a 5 cell pack and MOUNT THE BATTERIES INSIDE THE BATTERY BOX - I would never leave my receiver pack out in the open, that's just asking for problems...and a runaway 8th scale buggy is something I would never wanna see

[CRSMP5]

mah as in lets say the energizer 1400mah AA sucks vs a 5 cell hump at 1100mah.. people sell very expencive high mah batt packs, vs the norm 1100/1200mah packs for 15-25.. i was just stating dont worry about a 2100mah 5 cell hump its over kill in the buggy... thats what i was stating...

the load the servos make on the pack is far less than on my savage... so the batt does not use the mah (milliamp hour) constant power like a savage does.. aka savage batt dies alot faster than the one in the buggy... i recommend the 5 cell hump.. but a 15$ pack will work just as well as a 60$ pack.. i can get 3-4 race days out of 5 cell hump in buiggy.. if i do not recharge savage pack over night before next race day it does not last... same track, same amount of race time, differance is the load on the servos..

sorry to have confised someone.. i was not referring to AA, only referance was the 5cell 2top 3bottom fits in ANY place a 4AA holder fits, 6v all the way it speeds up the servos and increased their torque.. and ive seen a runaway into the river :(

[k_bojar]

Originally posted by CRSMP5
mah as in lets say the energizer 1400mah AA sucks vs a 5 cell hump at 1100mah.. people sell very expencive high mah batt packs, vs the norm 1100/1200mah packs for 15-25.. i was just stating dont worry about a 2100mah 5 cell hump its over kill in the buggy... thats what i was stating...

the load the servos make on the pack is far less than on my savage... so the batt does not use the mah (milliamp hour) constant power like a savage does.. aka savage batt dies alot faster than the one in the buggy... i recommend the 5 cell hump.. but a 15$ pack will work just as well as a 60$ pack.. i can get 3-4 race days out of 5 cell hump in buiggy.. if i do not recharge savage pack over night before next race day it does not last... same track, same amount of race time, differance is the load on the servos..

sorry to have confised someone.. i was not referring to AA, only referance was the 5cell 2top 3bottom fits in ANY place a 4AA holder fits, 6v all the way it speeds up the servos and increased their torque.. and ive seen a runaway into the river :(

Yea but again, you are only running oval with you Lightning which has a "lighter" drain on the receiver pack...Where do you race you Savage at?? Do you run the same servos in each machine??

THat's not making any sense - I've reread your post about the track and the Savage...If you are running the vehicles on the same surface, then battery life should be about the same... :confused:

Either way...I wouldnt recommend anyone use 4 AA cells in a receiver pack - if you are going to spend the money, spend the extra couple of bucks and get the 5 cell pack

[KandL Racing]

Well, tomorrow will be my first race with the buggy. Family stuff has kept me really busy during the evenings this week, and I was only able to run 4 tank fulls of break-in time. I'll be going to the track early and running 1-2 more tank fulls thru at low-med speeds then start opening it up. I did get a Trinity RX pack for it, going to put it in tonight and should be ready to go.

Don't expect nothing big though :) this is only my 4th or 5th race, and I only started driving these things about 3 months ago. Still getting the hang of it all.

[CRSMP5]

there is a pic of the track somewhere int eh forum.. but here..

http://members.aol.com/crsvwdesigns/rc/track/3.jpg
http://members.aol.com/crsvwdesigns/rc/track/7.jpg
so nope i dont run it on oval.. the only thing i ever ran oval was the one savage i sold.. and yep same servos.. one day when im motivated i need to swap them and see how they last.. but i think its more of a load on the servo aka big wheels tires to turn vs buggy..

[Carmmond]

Originally posted by KandL Racing
Well, tomorrow will be my first race with the buggy. Family stuff has kept me really busy during the evenings this week, and I was only able to run 4 tank fulls of break-in time. I'll be going to the track early and running 1-2 more tank fulls thru at low-med speeds then start opening it up. I did get a Trinity RX pack for it, going to put it in tonight and should be ready to go.

Don't expect nothing big though :) this is only my 4th or 5th race, and I only started driving these things about 3 months ago. Still getting the hang of it all.

GOOD LUCK:cool:

[toddzilla]

what's the verdict on long-term use of this buggy with a serious race engine.. not ofna stuff, but JP mods and C4 rody's etc..

anyone know? i'm doing research for next year, gotta figure out what i'm gonna run..

[CRSMP5]

there was someone running a ws7 on his on the forum.. im getting a ws7II and plan to try her out..

[Jeff Cain]

I plan to run this bad dad myself

http://www.osengines.com/engines/osmg2067a-2.jpg

The OS VZ-B(P). Mmm, candy.

[k_bojar]

Originally posted by toddzilla
what's the verdict on long-term use of this buggy with a serious race engine.. not ofna stuff, but JP mods and C4 rody's etc..

anyone know? i'm doing research for next year, gotta figure out what i'm gonna run..

Just read some of the posts, here...The Lightning is a very durable machine....and can survive the hotter engines :):D The buggy is still too new to have many guys that would have run the "heavy" stuff into it and race at a very high level - like the Pavidis' and those :)

At my local track, we have several lightnings running at my local track - about 4 - 5 have had their engines swapped out for something "hotter" and havent have any ill effects :) on the drive train and/or suspension...

We have a couple of the OS V01P in the buggies :D and they are fast and durable....I think the worse damage we've had to any of them is a broken C-Hub (mine) and most of the "kit" wings :)

[CRSMP5]

http://members.aol.com/sxuldveight/rc/light_3/gsspring/5.jpg
lookie at what i got for mine...
A stock rear spring
B GSC68024 (long) happens to be same as front spring
C stock front
D GSC68022 (med)
E GSC68020 (short) need 2 packs fo these

basically each pack is 5$, comes with 6 springs, soft, med, hard spring, it is so you can build a duel rate spring system for your lightning.. it comes with a plastic coupler between each set of springs, get 4 spares even

more pics..

http://members.aol.com/sxuldveight/rc/light_3/gsspring/1.jpg
http://members.aol.com/sxuldveight/rc/light_3/gsspring/2.jpg
http://members.aol.com/sxuldveight/rc/light_3/gsspring/3.jpg
http://members.aol.com/sxuldveight/rc/light_3/gsspring/4.jpg
http://members.aol.com/sxuldveight/rc/light_3/gsspring/6.jpg

[KandL Racing]

Besides neat looks, what benefits would dual rate springs bring?

BTW, finished 4th out of 6 in the B Main saturday night with my new RR. Was only 2 laps behind 1st and that was mainly due to stupid errors on my part that caused me to have to wait for turn marshalls to upright my lightning.

[CRSMP5]

in theory.. they will work as good as a stock spring.. BUT give ability to have a "cushon zone" lets say too stiff a spring bounces on a small dip, but is needded for big air.. so you run a soft spring at top to asorb the dip, but hard one for the jump..

[blemaxx]

What brand are they and who sells them?

[CRSMP5]

i had them ordered thru savage central... they are GS springs.. but i cannot say ive found a "source" selling them on line.. i beleive horizon may... i was discussing them thru aim one day with someone else and they hooked me up with the part numbers, ones listed above, B, D, E

[KandL Racing]

I found those part numbers at http://store.yahoo.com/rc-models/index.html it's a part of ehobbies.com. Others probably have them as well. I just searched for the part numbers and they came up. Went ahead and ordered them just to have them around to play with.

[CRSMP5]

thats why i got them to play with.. i was playing in the street last night with them... ive flipped it a few times on imperfections before, aka preload, hard bounce, i only flipped it 1 time lastnight.. :D and thats cause i took the turn to fast... so far im impressed.. now i got to try them at the track... the question is when will i get too... university job i have for weekends has way to many football games for me to sneek away for the day with out being noticed that i left eirly usually due to bordome, to find out anytime soon...

the only thing is, the weak to stiff springs, lets say yellow is the same there is so very little differance in finger compression, lets say max 1/2 pound, that its hard to determine if the blue or yellow is stronger.. the pink are strongest, but the blue and yellow seem almost idenical..

[STRACING]

First, There are a couple different ways to run the dual rate springs wach will give you a slightly different feel. Generally you run the softer long spring on the bottom and the stiffer spring on top. This way for the small bumps the shock doesn't have to lift the stiff spring to get to the soft spring. The only time the stiff spring is used is when landing from larger jumps. The other way is to run the stiff small spring on bottom and the softer long spring on top. You'll have to experiment with them.
Now I am more familiar with shocks from ATV's. Which when you buy racing shocks you buy them in double and triple rate springs. The main difference is that internally they use shims to get a progressive rate out of the shock itself and not just the spring. In the RC buggies the internal shock is a single rate setup with no way to actually create a progessive compression/rebound stroke. So, in theory what you should get is a little cushion from bottoming but also a quicker rebound too. Too fast of rebound can cause your car to go out of control because It acts like a pogo stick. You may have to run a little heavier oil to reduce this pogo effect.

Second, If you want to know the spring rates of shocks there is a web page called TWF8. This web page is dedicated to 1/8 scale off road buggies and is the best web page on the net. Anyway, they have a section which they have tested almost every spring from every major manufacture and you can see where the spring rates fit.

Third, It seems everyone I have tried to contact is out of the PRO version and are not sure when more are coming. If anyone knows where a PRO version is please let me know. The best price I have found is $320 plus shipping. Are they still planning on making more of these buggies? Are parts still hard to get? I don't have a LHS so I will be ordering over the net.

Thanks,

[k_bojar]

Originally posted by STRACING
Third, It seems everyone I have tried to contact is out of the PRO version and are not sure when more are coming. If anyone knows where a PRO version is please let me know. The best price I have found is $320 plus shipping. Are they still planning on making more of these buggies? Are parts still hard to get? I don't have a LHS so I will be ordering over the net.

Thanks,

I know we have at least 2 Pro's in stock at Pottbelly's...Send Sam Lairson an email - samlairson@lairson.com - for exact prices and shipping...I think they're $325-330 plus shipping....

Parts availability is hit or miss...Some shops have no problems getting parts, some have problems...I know Pottbelly's just got an order (that we placed over a month ago) in the other day :) Guess the initial demand was greater than what they expected :D (which is a good thing;) ) So looks like they are getting things together :D

[STRACING]

I sent him an email a few weeks back and never heard anything. I just assumed he was out of stock. I just sent him another email.

Thanks,

[CRSMP5]

thanks for the idea of swappign the springs around.. thats how my savage is set up, but ive been wanting to try the softer spacer harder spring idea cause some coil over shock companies have been doing this over the past few years to have a comfort zone before the race hard spring kills the owner..

but smokey on a different forum has his set up like you suggested too..

parts for the lightning.. i gave 2 sources back on page 21 i think, neither shop has it on the web per say.. but between the 2 i can build a pro :D i think they also have 1 maybe 2 pros in stock between them.. BUT they are not cheap like normal on line stores.. 350-370 mark..

[Carmmond]

STRACING Casey got his from here http://www.hpisavage21.com/lightning_pro.htm

Front page says just in stock!

[Andrew18]

Simply put I would not get a Lightning Pro from Hpisavage21.com.......i ordered mine from them and never got the thing....I also droppped the guy an e-mail everyday and he never replied. Thge only way i got my money is through a dispute I filed with paypal. I got mine through Sam at Potbelly's ..give the guy a call and ask to talk to him he is a good guy and will take care of you.

On another note I am having a probem with my diffs leaking...some one help me out with what i need to do...i never put a gasket in there since in my buggy it did not come with one. Also will a complete diff assembly froma Ofna Hyper 7 or a K2 work in this buggy ...thanks all

[Jeff Cain]

More than likely the gasket is stuck to your gear. Your gear is bronze, but the gasket is black. Killer tighness isn't as important as even tightness. Don't wanna warp things.

[CRSMP5]

some of the older pro versions lacked the gaskets if you go read thru old old posts.. the gasket is also same as some ofna, gs, kyosho and if all else failed the hpi savage... one thing to note.. no gasket means improper gear mesh.. so you may need to buy new gears.. gs ones will fit.. BUT ill be honest.. hpi savage ones are much more durable in hardness over gs or the lightning..

[NitoIgniter]

Originally posted by CRSMP5
no gasket means improper gear mesh.. so you may need to buy new gears.. gs ones will fit.. BUT ill be honest.. hpi savage ones are much more durable in hardness over gs or the lightning..

i'm running the mp 7.5 diff gears in mine with no problems. i also do not have a diff gasket but the mesh is fine (over a half gallon since the diff replacement and no problems). if you apply enough pressure to the four screws that hold the diffs together, they won't leak. you just have to make sure you don't get stuff trapped between the surfaces when you put the diffs back together

[Jeff Cain]

Originally posted by CRSMP5
some of the older pro versions lacked the gaskets if you go read thru old old posts..

Actually, I have read all the posts, and remembered seeing that when I tore mine down. I thought my Pro had no gaskets, but my buddy showed them to me (they were stuck to the gears). I'm positive if those same people tore their diffs apart, they'd find the gaskets have been there all along.

[k_bojar]

Originally posted by Jeff Cain
Actually, I have read all the posts, and remembered seeing that when I tore mine down. I thought my Pro had no gaskets, but my buddy showed them to me (they were stuck to the gears). I'm positive if those same people tore their diffs apart, they'd find the gaskets have been there all along.

Yea I gotta agree with you on that...I think on some of the diffs (mine included) the gaskets were attached to the outer diff case :) Mine have never leaked (cross fingers, knock on wood) and I have about 1.5 gallons of fuels thru the car - 2 engines :) and a lot of racing :D

I think there were a sting of machines that had diff issues, but HB seemed to have had their people step on the QA and things cleaned up...I must have gotten lucky with my diffs, I know I had one of the first Pro's available :) in the states :) and never had a problem

[LosiXXX-NTRacer]

anyone on this forum selling a lightning? preferably a "pro" but not necessary let me know? My Email (MR_RC_RACER@yahoo.com)

[charlesd]

Anybody know what's up with savage21 ???

I sent 5 e-mails requesting a paypal invoice for parts and haven't had one answer in over a week!!


Does anyone know where i can order lightning parts and pay via paypal ??? Ehobbies.com doesn't accept Canadian paypal payments. ( Their loss as i would have ordered regularly).

Thanks
Charles.

[Casey]

Originally posted by charlesd
Anybody know what's up with savage21 ???

I sent 5 e-mails requesting a paypal invoice for parts and haven't had one answer in over a week!!


Does anyone know where i can order lightning parts and pay via paypal ??? Ehobbies.com doesn't accept Canadian paypal payments. ( Their loss as i would have ordered regularly).

Thanks
Charles.


Check out www.lprp.com . Click on "Sales". They've got pretty much every Lightning part listed and they take PayPal.

[LosiXXX-NTRacer]

what parts and #'s would you have to buy to convert a rtr to a pro model? anyone know?

[Casey]

Originally posted by LosiXXX-NTRacer
what parts and #'s would you have to buy to convert a rtr to a pro model? anyone know?


The main items you'd need would be:

C8075-2 4MM 7075 Front Shock Tower
C8073-2 4MM 7075 Rear Shock Tower
C8120-1 Front Chassis Anti-Bending Rod(chassis brace)
C8121-1 Rear Chassis Anit-Bending Rod(chassis brace)
C8060 Front Center CVD Shaft
C8061 Rear Center CVD Shaft


There are more smaller items, but the items I listed would probably be the most important.

[blemaxx]

anyone know if this CB will work?
http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXBL94&P=7

[CRSMP5]

all the ofna vented hardened cb will work WITH the use of the shim kit.. you will need to use one of the spacers and shim it properly.. aka the teeth are longer than stock.. so there is a issue with the outer bearing being further off the shaft than you want..

[charlesd]

Thanks a million Casey. Ordered what i needed and no problems.

[Casey]

Originally posted by charlesd
Thanks a million Casey. Ordered what i needed and no problems.


No problem. Just let us all know when you get the parts and if you're pleased with the service. There have been several people looking for a place to buy Lightning parts. I just stumbled across the LPRP site, but have yet to order from them. It would be nice to know that there are parts availabe when needed, and having them accept PayPal is a plus.

[LosiXXX-NTRacer]

does anyone know where i can see good pics of a stoc lightning pro? If any of you have one can u please send me pics of it like with and without body maybe a couple different angles. I am debating on wether to get the rtr or pro version and would like to compare them thanks..... my email is Email (allstarninja@aol.com) thanx once again so much.

[kyoshofan420]

For pics of the pro chassis and the rtr, go to the first version of this forum. CRSMP5 took some pictures of his pro when he got it. Hope this helped:)

[CRSMP5]

yea i got a big big photo shoot of it listed there with all the upgrades it has over the rtr..

[Andrew18]

+++HPISAVAGE21.com+++ Hey guys do not order from this joker. I can honestly say that this dude is a rip off artist. I ordered my Pro from only to not get get it. I got lucky that paypal got my money back. I would get mine from Slammin sam or Rc Boyz. I would love to see someone get serious and put up a good Web Site about this buggy. I would also like to see Rickys R/C and Hot Bodies get serious about this buggy and get this thing rollin. they just dont do enough for the buggy. No Ads, No published tech support, No Nothing!! it is unreal.......

[CRSMP5]

someone else had that complaint abt that place and trying to get a pro... its one one of the old posts.. adn yep.. this forum is the biggest piece of lightning info on the web...

[romulus]

Casey,
I am just wondering if your Hyper 7 is working right and wheter or not it has given the same results as your Lightning in your races? I sort of remember that you are going to switch rides this comming season.

[Carmmond]

Originally posted by romulus
Casey,
I am just wondering if your Hyper 7 is working right and wheter or not it has given the same results as your Lightning in your races? I sort of remember that you are going to switch rides this comming season.

I'll let Casey answer your question but I will tell you what he told me when I went and met him on Labor Day. He said he got the Hyper running that week but didn't get enough run time on it to set it up for the track and ended up running the Pro. I cant wait to see what he tells you. I would think if he gets it set up right it will do just as well because Casey seems to have a good handle on the track:D To the point I don't know how much the car will matter..... I saw him mad and he was a bat out of :eek:

[Casey]

Originally posted by romulus
Casey,
I am just wondering if your Hyper 7 is working right and wheter or not it has given the same results as your Lightning in your races? I sort of remember that you are going to switch rides this comming season.


romulus - I've got the Hyper 7 running great. I sent the defective 063 pipe back to Ofna and they sent back a working one. The O.S. 21 RG is a sweet engine with a lot more power than I expected, although it could use a larger cooling head.

BUT........

I have yet to get the H-7 set up to where I feel comfortable racing it on our track. Alot of guys prefer stiff springs, but I like a soft suspension setup. I've changed out the stock black springs for the softer purple H-7 Pro springs. Now I've got to start messing with the shock oil. This buggy is just way too bumpy for me and rides like a covered wagon through the rough stuff.

My Lightning just soaks everything up. I'm running the stock shock oil, factory shock mounting positions, only the rear sway bar, and Mugen silver springs. The diffs are all still filled with the factory diff fluid, too. I wish I knew what weight silicone Hot Bodies used for the shocks and springs. This thing works so good for me that I don't want to mess it up by using different weight fluids in the future.

We raced last night(week 5 of the 2nd Monday Nitro series). I ran the Lightning Pro and had some technical difficulties in the first heat with my battery connection. Only made a few laps, then had to pull it off the track and do some surgery. Second heat I get on the track and have no brakes at all. Pulled it off the track before the heat even started to get the brakes working. Got 'em all fixed(I thought) and started last in the main only to find out I don't have brakes again. And I mean no brakes AT ALL. You never notice how much you use your brakes during racing until you don't have any!! I finished third 3 laps down from the 1st place guy. Guess I can't win 'em all.

[Casey]

Originally posted by Carmmond
I'll let Casey answer your question but I will tell you what he told me when I went and met him on Labor Day. He said he got the Hyper running that week but didn't get enough run time on it to set it up for the track and ended up running the Pro. I cant wait to see what he tells you. I would think if he gets it set up right it will do just as well because Casey seems to have a good handle on the track:D To the point I don't know how much the car will matter..... I saw him mad and he was a bat out of :eek:

Ken - You and your brother should try to make it down on a Monday night in the next week or two. The track owner finally got a bunch of lights set up on the track and it makes quite a difference. When I found out they were setting up the lights, I added some reflective decal to my wing and body. No problem keeping track of my Lightning in the dark now.

The track's website has also been updated and they are finally showing the weekly points series on there, too.

www.bristolrc.com

[k_bojar]

Originally posted by Casey
romulus - I've got the Hyper 7 running great. I sent the defective 063 pipe back to Ofna and they sent back a working one. The O.S. 21 RG is a sweet engine with a lot more power than I expected, although it could use a larger cooling head.


Yea that RG is a sweet engine :):D A major difference over the "kit" HB motor....Yea, it would be nice to have a bigger cooling head on it - I think O'DOnnell makes one, but it might be the same as the V01B which has been known to be impossible to get

Casey, does your RG run real cool??? I couldnt get the motor to a decent temp with a "standard" plug...I had to switch over to a "hot" plug to get some temp into the engine...Once I switched, I was still in the 230's...I think the hottest it ever got was about 260 :) Not bad for a nitro engine

[romulus]

Cool Casey:) I guess that sometimes everyone have glitches. I also lost my brakes but it was not because worn out break pads. My throttle/brake servo's gears got stripped (stock servo) and I only have throttle. Thanks God that the servo didn't get stuck wide open. I am in the process of changing the old servo with a hitec 525MG servo that I have laying around. At least I will not worry anymore of stripped gears :D

[CRSMP5]

nova makes a nice head for the os engine...

[Casey]

Originally posted by k_bojar
Yea that RG is a sweet engine :):D A major difference over the "kit" HB motor....Yea, it would be nice to have a bigger cooling head on it - I think O'DOnnell makes one, but it might be the same as the V01B which has been known to be impossible to get

Casey, does your RG run real cool??? I couldnt get the motor to a decent temp with a "standard" plug...I had to switch over to a "hot" plug to get some temp into the engine...Once I switched, I was still in the 230's...I think the hottest it ever got was about 260 :) Not bad for a nitro engine


My RG runs about the same as yours. I've got an O.S. 8 plug in it right now. I'm thinking about swapping engines in my buggies so that the RG is in the Lightning and the Hyper 21 is back in the H-7. I checked on heads and Nova's got one for $45.00.


http://www.novarcproducts.com/images2/OSRG21.jpg

[geo8498]

Here's a question. Has anyone ever tried putting a shim on the stock motor carb so it will fit into a Hyper21 8 port? I thought this morning that I'd try taking the carb out of my old engine and putting it into my Hyper 8 port. I can never get the darned thing tuned in right.

So tonight I just pulled the carbs and the shaft on the stock motor is just a tad too small.; both in diameter and in length. Better it's too small than too large I figured. Not sure if can be done, but I'm wondering about making a shim. But not sure what to use.

[CRSMP5]

get the os carb for the 8 port.. its a direct fit... :D keeps tune very very well..

[Carmmond]

Originally posted by Casey
Ken - You and your brother should try to make it down on a Monday night in the next week or two. The track owner finally got a bunch of lights set up on the track and it makes quite a difference. When I found out they were setting up the lights, I added some reflective decal to my wing and body. No problem keeping track of my Lightning in the dark now.

The track's website has also been updated and they are finally showing the weekly points series on there, too.

www.bristolrc.com

Wish I could make it down. I work in Milwaukee till 4:30 then would have to run down and could not make it till around 6pm. I could have made the Nito Farm run but already told my uncle I would be up to Sparta to bow hunt:mad: Good news is the wife got in on the Land Rover give away for Lazor 103 and she has a 1 in 100 chance to win..... wish us luck:D

I plan on calling the hobbie shop in Bristol and see if I can run one weekend if it goes through I'll let you know.

[Jeff Cain]

Hey we've got a radio station here called Lazer 103.3

[Casey]

Originally posted by Jeff Cain
Hey we've got a radio station here called Lazer 103.3


This one is 102.9 on the dial.;)

[Casey]

Originally posted by Carmmond
Wish I could make it down. I work in Milwaukee till 4:30 then would have to run down and could not make it till around 6pm. I could have made the Nito Farm run but already told my uncle I would be up to Sparta to bow hunt:mad: Good news is the wife got in on the Land Rover give away for Lazor 103 and she has a 1 in 100 chance to win..... wish us luck:D

I plan on calling the hobbie shop in Bristol and see if I can run one weekend if it goes through I'll let you know.

I might be heading out to the Nitro Farm, but not to race. My wife's got inventory at work that day and I've got the two kids. I don't quite have the patience to attempt racing and keeping an eye on them.

Good luck with the Land Rover and bow hunting. If you win the Rover, be prepared to pay the taxes. My folks won a Jeep Wrangler last year(3 months after buying their new one). They love it, but were almost wishing they hadn't won it after the tax man got ahold of them.

Hopefully we'll see you at the track before racing is over. Last year I think we were still running the third week in October.

[Carmmond]

Originally posted by Casey
My folks won a Jeep Wrangler last year(3 months after buying their new one). They love it, but were almost wishing they hadn't won it after the tax man got ahold of them.



I was thinking about that..... Do you remember about what they had to pay out on the Wrangler?

[Casey]

They paid somewhere between $5000-$6000 in taxes. So much for the "free" Jeep.:D

[k_bojar]

Originally posted by Casey
They paid somewhere between $5000-$6000 in taxes. So much for the "free" Jeep.:D

Yep :D that sounds about right :) I work at a Casino and we have a Porsche Boxster for a top prize on a group of our machines - you get the boxster (worth $42k-ish) plus $6000 for taxes :D Not quite sure how that would work out since the price's taxes would be based on the car plus the cash

Oh well...at least its nice for a little while :D

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