OCT RCCA mag. New CEN MT might have a .30 engine

[Viperrgh2]

what happen to 3 speed tranny??

[DJ427]

Way 2 go CEN yall have totally changed my look on yall, this thing is AWSOME,yall need keep up the good work, this truck blew my mind when I saw it, am not 2 much into the drive shafts,hopefully yall wont include that 2 speed tranny with the green and yellow grears, come on man, need metal, yalls MT2 is pretty good, besides the red gears, come on put metal gears in that truck, no one cares if its lightweight, it wont effect the truck that much, just something 2 miss up and have 2 buy another part, but keep up the good work, I love GENISIS

[Maxx_A_Million]

HOLY CRAP!!!

ill put in my application at kroger tomorrow! i MUST hvae one of these!!

so cen, you actually expect us to PULL start this??

http://www.cenracing.com/cars/genesis/pic/engine.jpg

.46ci PULLSTART?? will it come with its own jackhammer mount so we can actually get the engine to turn over, or are we just going to have to start it with the gloplug REALLY loose? or will it fit on a starter box (or can it be bump-started)

i hope that drill accessory will be released at the same time as the truck... lol...


oh, and as soon as youve got a video, chock up one more definite buyer!

[379]

if its ringed it might be easy to pull start

[muswagon]

Even if it's not ringed just make the diameter of the recoil bigger and it will be easy to pull.

[379]

yup thats how long stroke engines deliver mpore torque than short strokers the crankpin moves in a bigger circle than the shortstroke crankpin also it would reqire a bigger rope than normal

[rampbrian]

im sure the pull start will work, thats not even a worry for me,
what I want to know is if the tires made by hot bodies will fit the genisis rims. ?

and im shure that there will be a 3 speed on the genisis. I hope its ajustable tho, so we can fine tune our shift points,

mr cen racing,
thank you for answering most of our questions, you are the man. can you tell us what we can expect to se for a boddy?
or maby you could get a 1/8 scale parma grave digger boddy and put it on there, thats what I plan on getting for it.

any word on the diff locking tool?
or vented clutch bell or fly wheel?

last question, have you tested the genisis with the IMEX jumbo kong tires on?
the genisis looks to be the ony truck big enough to accept those tires and not look silly, I like big tires on a monster truck,
thanks
ramp man cant wait.
with .46 engine this truck should be selling like crazy, do you think you will be able to fill the orders for it?

[mariog]

So what do you think the top speed will be that the 3-speed will pump out?

[Maxx_A_Million]

. . . yeah. . . supply and demand. . . itd be nice if we didnt see a maxx-like shortage of trucks. . .

also, when can we get a ballpark price and/or release date?

[monstertrucker]

With such a powerful motor will this truck have a slipper clutch to protect the drivetrain, or is that the function of the center diff.

[BoardSlapper]

So whats the good word CEN? Anything else have final decisions made? Have you started mass producing anything yet? Have you tested a rear exhaust version of the engine? How's the 3 speed working? Is the electronics gear finalized? What will be standard, and what will be optional?

[Maximus]

Hi Guys,

This monster truck looks great but it as so much gadgets that I wonder if it will be durable... they're is so much feature that we maybe spending more time fixing it then running it... this is my concerns...

If I would be CEN, I would clean up the truck and keep the essential... too much is like not enough!

Weak point that I see:
-Suspension arms looks small compared to Savage.
-Front skid plate angle. should be more like T-MAXX or Savage to act like a ramp.
-Drive shaft, I would prefer metal CVD like MGT.
-3 speed tranny, the yellow and green thin plastic spur gear looks really weak (1/10 scale) for the torquey .46
-2 top shocks will break easy.
-Body post really look cheesy.
-No roll bar... hopefully a roll bar like Savage would be nice.
-Chassis looks like painted metal not aluminium.

Keep in mind this is a prototype... so hopefully they will do some quality assurance on the truck... not as long as MGT, but at least a few months to fix all issues... so don't expect this truck to be out for xmas... if it does you will be doing the quality assurance for them... just like Bill Gates does with Windows...

This truck looks great and if final product looks clean and really heavy duty... this will be my next one!

[rampbrian]

I just got back from the hobby shop, local hobby guy said that he is doubtful that the cen genisis will come with a .46 cause it will raise the cost of the kit so much.

he thinks its gona come with a .21

I hope and pray he is wrong, .46 will be the 2nd biggest selling point of this truck, first being its pure size.
cen, im worried, please re assure us.
thanks.

[379]

CEN Racing is on where is he
i would like a pic of the genisis engine next to a .21

[Cal-Torque]

After all this hype, there's no way that it will come with a .21... Why would your local store make that comment? Sounds like they don't don't have a clue, and probably haven't looked at the CEN website.

[CEN Racing]

.46 Engine is a done deal. ITs all over the net and all over our website. It runs great and reliable. It have so much torque and power that it outrun our MT2 which does 45mph. This engine does raise cost a bit but it will still be competitive with trucks in the same class.

As for several weak points some member worried about. All i can say is dont worry about it. I mean, Quality of the material is a lot more important than size. If its made right with right material, it wont break.

[BoardSlapper]

Torture, absolute torture. We haven't heard from you in a while, and thats all we get. :(

What about fixing that link on the website so we can listen to the engine???? PLEASE!!!!

[MaxximumOD]

Cen, thanks for the skinny on yer truck,all I need to know is WHEN?????????? (p.s. a vid would be sweet too!)

[rampbrian]

yay, the first thing I do after I get my cen genisis is go to local hobby shop and run over the guy who works there, im gona run him down!!!!!!!

thanks cen, I was worried, ramp

[Maximus]

CEN is saying "Massive wheelie pulling bottom end Torque combine with massive top end power "...

How can you pull massive wheelie when you got a center DIFF!!!

You cannot do wheelie with a center diff...

anyhow I prefer no wheelie and good acceleration and better control...

[BoardSlapper]

Difflock ma man! Ofna Difflock


http://store.savage-central.com/advanced_search_result.php?keywords=diff+oil

[Maximus]

Originally posted by BoardSlapper
Difflock ma man! Ofna Difflock


http://store.savage-central.com/advanced_search_result.php?keywords=diff+oil

What I mean is that you wont be able to do wheelies out off the box... you need to lock the center diff to do wheelies...

Then if you lock the center diff, you wont get any slipper protection for the drivetrain like a slipper clutch or center diff provides....

If I would be CEN and wheelie would be an important factor, I would replace the center diff with slipper clutch just like T-MAXX, Savage, MGT and all the others...

just my 2 cents...

[379]

Originally posted by CEN Racing
.46 Engine is a done deal. ITs all over the net and all over our website. It runs great and reliable. It have so much torque and power that it outrun our MT2 which does 45mph. This engine does raise cost a bit but it will still be competitive with trucks in the same class.

As for several weak points some member worried about. All i can say is dont worry about it. I mean, Quality of the material is a lot more important than size. If its made right with right material, it wont break.

good about how long does it take to start in seconds 1 or 2 maybe 3
i myself dont like center diffs too much as they remove some slight offroad capability if they unload but the .46 engine and outrunning the mt2 makes up for it overall i like the genisis and will get one as soon as i can save up for it

[2 F45T 4 U]

i know this is hard work for you, answering all these questions by impatient morons (me being one of them:p ) whats the 4 wheel steering like does it get loked for high speed or does it just get held in place by the servo?

[rckid11]

That is one sweet mt! Hope it will be out before christmas. :(

[CJHunterX]

what about snow, can i run one of these in the snow with out worrying about anything getting damaged. cause if im gonna get one i will want to use it when i get it and it will prolly be snowing out

[BoardSlapper]

I'm with you CJ. I want to get one ASAP, and there will probably be lots of snow around. Man is that going to be torture standing in the garage breaking in the motor. But oh so satisfying at the same time. At least I enjoy the smell of nitro fumes.


So CEN. Any updates today. I know I'm a huge pain in the arse, but we just REALLY want to know all about his truck. Any chance that audio of the engine running will get put on the website soon?

Has manufacturing started yet? Have you made any changes recently (as in a roll bar, like some people were asking)? Is there going to be a red coloured cooling head on the engine. Someone said that didn't like the red, but I think its a great colour. Really looking forward to it CEN. I already have been chatting to a shop that I am going to be buying it from. As soon as they let me, I am going to put a down payment in on one.

[QUAKE&SHAKE]

Im starting to wonder about the suspension. More info on this area would help? The pictures show the trucks' suspension like flat straight acroos from one tire to the other. Now in the pics is the suspension fully extended or compressed? If compressed like how much 1/2" 1"?
Now if the susp. is fully extended in the pics and thats all there is thats not good cause there will be no downward travel and limited travel altogether.

So basically can we get a picture of the truck )front view) with full suspension extension?

[Nitroaddict]

Cen,

on your homepage it has big red letters saying to click to hear the engine roar...where is the link?

Would love to hear that .46 in action!!

[Viperrgh2]

Dif lock?? Hey I have a t-maxx I do lots of heavy duty off roading and wheelies with this dif lock stuff if i put it in my rear diff will it still allow some slipping or will it be like the spool??

[2 F45T 4 U]

yeh itll slip but not much, depending on wat weight oil u use.

[CEN Racing]

Will Fix the link.

About the center diff. EK4 have center diff and pulls wheelie. So it can be done. PLus JT Racing is ready for aftermarket support

Picture of front view can be found on the website.
Note: Picture were taken before we put oil in and do all the adjustment in order to run the truck.

I can assure you these center shocks wont break, though they do look tiny but very durable.

[Cal-Torque]

No definite price yet or release date?
Come on man, you're killin' us.

[muswagon]

Mr Cen,

The EK4 does NOT have a center diff. It is a solid shaft that the spur rides on. It is physically impossible to pull a wheelie with a center diff. Now, you mentioned that your english is not the best, are you sure we are talking about a center differential, or center spur, or what?

[Maximus]

Originally posted by muswagon
Mr Cen,

The EK4 does NOT have a center diff. It is a solid shaft that the spur rides on. It is physically impossible to pull a wheelie with a center diff. Now, you mentioned that your english is not the best, are you sure we are talking about a center differential, or center spur, or what?

I Agree, unless you lock the center diff (meaning it becomes solid shaft) you wont be able to pull wheelies...

[CEN Racing]

I guess I was mistaken. Sorry. But Dont worry. We already figure something out. of course, without changing anything.

[BoardSlapper]

So what else can you update us on CEN?

Has there been a decision on the body? Have you decided if you will ever make a "kit" version? How about a final mounting position of the fuel tank, etc? And are there pics coming with the final layout?

How about a video? Is there one in the works? I want to see this thing in the air!!!

[CEN Racing]

Kit is in consideration but not anytime soon. We might make a MT2 kit version because we just won the NORRCA Offroad National MT class.

Video is in progress and engine sound link on the website had been fixed,.

[tallcracker]

i have been silently following this thread, kinda seeing what people thought and what was going on. i must admit, when i first heard about CEN and thier cars i was not impressed. i figured it would be another company that would make cheap products and sell them for low prices to attract new people, but that experienced R/C drivers would never really find anything from CEN that they wanted or needed. I never thought CEN would be "groundbreaking" or come out with any thing that had so many new ideas and parts. i had the chance to pick up a used CEN rally car for about 120 RTR. it was something i could tear up on the weekdays and not feel too badly if i destroyed it because i didnt have mich invested. imagine my suprise when i beat the living he11 out of that thing for months and didnt break a part. the engine had great power and ran great, plus CEN had good cusomer support when i finally did burn the engine up. that car changed my view on CEN, i now knew they made quality products and had great customer support, but they still really didnt have a car that i drooled over.... all that has changed now. i have been looking heavily into the savage for a new year play toy, but i am just going to have to be patient and wait for this truck. it looks like an incredible vehicle with not only many new designs incoperated, but the H.P. to back up its aggressive looks.

thanks for fixing the link CEN racing, i listened to the engine and i must say, it sounds tame, good job on keeping the exhaust level down so all the niebhors wont whine and bitch when we are playing with our trucks in the street. also with a exhaust note that soft this thing will be the ultimate sleeper for those who havent heard about this truck and the engine.

[BoardSlapper]

Good post TALL.

Yeah, I was wondering about the sound of the engine. It sounds to me like they barely opened the throttle. Like they are still breaking it in. Nice smooth sounding idle. I can't wait to hear it wind right out.

[muswagon]

The big question CenRacing. The picture still shows side exaughst. Has this been changed? Just curious.

[CEN Racing]

Its the same picture. We didnt take new pictures yet. But i can guarantee you its going to be a rear exhaust engine, not side exhaust.

[Maxx_A_Million]

hehehe... that engine sounded pissed... at anything with a smaller engine... must have one. . .

[muswagon]

CenRacing. Not trying to pick on you, I promise. I just looked at your website again to hear the engine. At the top, its says "biggest displacement". Since when is a .46 bigger than a .70 that the EK4 has? You forget about that beast?

[MegaMe]

cen you should make an electric mt2 using your big boat motors.. now that would be cool :)

[tallcracker]

Originally posted by muswagon
CenRacing. Not trying to pick on you, I promise. I just looked at your website again to hear the engine. At the top, its says "biggest displacement". Since when is a .46 bigger than a .70 that the EK4 has? You forget about that beast?

this has been brought up already, CEN mentioned that the .70 is derrived from a helicopter platform (or plane i forget), so therefore CEN doesnt consider that a valid comparison. he mentioned that he is only comparing this engine to the car based engines in todays RTR cars that were designed for car use and not airplane or helicopter use.

[henry]

So Cen, what is the final release date? And, what price range will this truck fall into? I believe this will be RTR package?

Thanks.

[CEN Racing]

Yeap, Cant be bothered by Heli engine.

Expect it sometime very early next year. I know, sorry....
Expect price range is between Savage 25 & MGT.

[Racer Rob]

Originally posted by CEN Racing
Kit is in consideration but not anytime soon. We might make a MT2 kit version because we just won the NORRCA Offroad National MT class.

Video is in progress and engine sound link on the website had been fixed,.
Kit MT2 huh, got my interest! :D

[tallcracker]

if i was to estimate the price, based on what CEN has said i think mid 400's is a reasonable assumption. all things considered this is a very reasonable price. it seems to come with decent radio gear and servos that should be strong enough to manuver this truck without having to upgrade. infact they say hi torque metal gear "servos". so it seems like not only will the steering be a nice servo but the servo for throttle and braking will be also of equal quality and ability.

CEN can we have any photos of the radio? what features are ya'll planning on incoperating into it? AM/ FM? end points?

also with the big engine, and 3 speed i dont see any of us having to go out and pay for a Hyper 8 port or a .25 to make this thing go fast. the main parts of this truck are about as good and strong as it gets so they wont need upgrading and that will save hundreds down the line. i think my only complaint will be how fast this thing sucks gas, i bet it can down that tank in 5 minutes of hard running. ahhh well gas is cheap and its worth it for all that HP.

i hope this truck makes it to the shelves by mid feb. i will probably wait 1 month incase thier are any mold problems or issues that show themselves right away in production and give CEn time to address those minor bugs then go out and get mine.

[BoardSlapper]

Originally posted by tallcracker
what features are ya'll planning on incoperating into it?


Typing you takes 2 less keystrokes :p

[tallcracker]

Originally posted by BoardSlapper
Typing you takes 2 less keystrokes :p

True, but since CEN is not the one personally making this truck all by himself he wouldnt be the once placing the features in this truck. rather his company as a whole "you all" would be the crowd i am addressing. :D

[BoardSlapper]

Hee Hee.

I know. I was just being an azz. ;)

[QUAKE&SHAKE]

Originally posted by muswagon
It is physically impossible to pull a wheelie with a center diff.

We just went over this a page or so back.
You can do a wheelie with a center diff and with NOT locking it completely. You just use thick oil in the diff. Or by use of a special diff called a TORSEN DIFF. In a torsen diff gears are arranged in such a way that when power is applied the tires with the most grip get the power sent to them. But you still get regular diff action off power.

So YES it is possible to wheelie with an UNlocked center diff.

[379]

like the hummer h1 front rear and center

[Maxx_A_Million]

i just thought of somehting that was a big problem on the bigger fuel tank of the terra crusher... the o-ring and proper closure of the tank... CEN, when you get a chance, please make sure that the o-ring WILL last unchanged for 2 days soaked in nitro... if ti gets bigger, youll ahev the or-ing getting stuck around the top of the fuel tanka nd not closing... btter yet, make it liek the 1/8 buggies. . . i always ahve to force my lid shut on my fuel tank, even though i upgraded orings. . . itd be nice if the genesis didnt have that problem...

also, you said something about size not being as important as materials? what WILL the materials be??

[379]

tha would prolly be a trade secret CEN prolly wont want to release for 5yrs or more

CEN could we see a pic of the piston from the NT-16 sitting on the piston from the genisis engine as well as the genisis sleeve around the NT-16 sleeve

[tallcracker]

and some more info on the radio please .. :D

[racinlosi]

CEN racing, is the fuel tank in to way of the rear wheels when turned inwards and the shocks compresed? Because in some of the pics., it looks like it's in the way.

[Freedom]

CEN,


How does the body look like?

[379]

yeah dont make a tire to part rub the mt2 had that prob but i dont have to worry bout that i dont even use the body im too busy driving it to bother installing the body

CEN could we see a pic of the piston from the NT-16 sitting on the piston from the genisis engine as well as the genisis sleeve around the NT-16 sleeve

[BoardSlapper]

Not feeling the love here CEN. 100's of us just waiting to spend our hard earned cash on your fine product, and all we want is a little update. :)

Sorry CEN, i'm just so excited. I have wanted a MT for a while, and now I have found the one I want. Can't wait, seriously.

[tallcracker]

ok i have sold my Nt to help clear up funds for this thing... it better be good. now i have the $ sitting in my account waiting on the release. please get us some VIDS soon, with so many monster trucks out to drool over we need you to keep our hopes alive (and our money in our pockets) by giving us more info about this truck. thanks CEN

[CEN Racing]

Fuel tank stay next to rear wheel if no 4WS is used.
If user choose to use 4WS, fuel tank will need to be relocated to the center of the vechile. (with no parts required of course)

I will try to shoot the body picture on Monday. We have the theme done but actual body will be finished in a few days. Though i can get you the picture of engine next to NT16 by monday

The fuel tank is 100% perfect. Its better than any of our tank right now.

[BoardSlapper]

Thanks very much CEN. I have a question about the fuel tank though.

Why not have it centered in the frame all the time? What is the advantage of keeping it in the back near the wheel?

[379]

cool is the engine ringed

[Maxx_A_Million]

engine is a car type engine... no rings, 2 stroke, should be a 30k RPM engine. . .

[rampbrian]

do you think maxx power for the engine is found at 30,000 rpm? I think it will probly be around 20 - 25,000 rpm = maxx power, and im hoping the engine will rev up to about 35,000 rpm maxx, maby a bit more,

since its desinged as a car engine, most car engines rev to about 40,000 rpm + airplane type engines can only rev to 20-25,000 rpm then they explode. ha ha ha, ok seriously, i still want one so bad, im lucky my birth day is in febuary, so clost to christmas, I hope we can all wait to get one,

anxiously wating to see a body. and a vid. thanks mr cen for updating us. we are all in love with the truck,
ps, I was at local hobby today, and saw those 7.5" rim+tire combo from hot bodies, man they are big, the 8" ones on the genisis are going to be so large its not even funny, this truck should never get stuck,

[379]

the genisis has 7.5'' tires not 8'' tires those are those imex tires that make the savage look stupid

[rampbrian]

ya, maby im wrong, the ones from hot bodies are 7" and the genisis ones are 7.5" and the imex kong things are 8.5"?

am I right?

any how, do you think the kong things would look as terible as they do on the maxxes and savages on our beloved cen genisis,

[379]

itd be something like putting MT2 tires on a RC10GT or XXX-NT itd run and look halfway decent but would kill handling and lowend but it would increase top speed and ground clearance u might half to drop a tooth on 1st gear on the genisis but thats what a 3spd is 4 aint it what id like to see is the 2nd generation
Genisis with a 4spd and 60mph top speeds in 4th gear and wheelies in first 2nd and 3rd could keep the powerhouse .46 in its powerband for the speed gear and a .60 or so CEN 4 stroke option kit for the ultimat torque for those of u who want all out speed and the gears are too steep for the mighty .46 2stroke to pull but i doubt CEN will do that

[CEN Racing]

I dont think the kong wheel will look good. Our wheel is extreme big with ultra low profile tire but the kong wheel is the other way around, thick tire with small wheels. I like big wheel with low profile tires. Look sexy and handle good.


I am sure we dont have any plan for stroke kit. But if everyone on earth have a gensis by then, we might just do that for the heck of it.

[MegaMe]

wouldnt the big wheel.. thin tyre also make the wheel lighter compared to the imex's??? i always consider the tyre to be heavier than the wheels, but i dont know in this case...

[CEN_GENISIS]

That looks like a nice truck CEN, but you might have to start out by digging your way out of a whole, if the Genesis is not out by Christmas. Many people, like myself, will have to find an alternative, such as the recently released Savage 25, for a nice Christmas present. Let us know about a release date, before orders start being made.

[Maxx_A_Million]

febuary, not before...

ill still save to get one then. . .

[maxxafrica]

I have also been one of the guys who have been sitting on the fence regarding the new CEN truck. It is the first truck since the launch of the Savage that has had me excited, this much. (I felt the same when I heard about the Monster GT, but after 1 year I am so ****** off that I will not buy it on principle & by now it's not different to anything else currently available)

CEN, will you increase the amount of outlets that you supply products to as many people buy over the net from Tower, Stormer etc. Currently none of them keep a single CEN product and if one looks at the EK4 volumes I believe that this is largely the reason as many customers rely on the net for 90% of all their purchases

[rampbrian]

good, so far im totaly saving to get one,

its un fortunate that the genisis wont be out for christmas, but you have to look at it this way, if the did a rush and slop job preparing it to be manufactured and shipped to go out for christmas, then we would all get one and have a rush/slop job on our trucks, and be mad about it, this way we now have a good truck to look foward to,

and atleast we are only wating 2 extra months, not a whole year like some thing I remember back a while ago,

+ my birth day is febuary 4th so maby I can get one of those for my bday.

im shure that cen wanted to release this truck for x mas but they have the integrety to hold it back to make shure that we get the best ( and biggest ) monster truck out. that makes me proud of cen.. good job,

[BoardSlapper]

You sure havn't been giving us many updates lately CEN. What have you been up to?

How about a pic or two with the new engine. How soon after the truck is realeased, do you expect spare parts to be coming out, or do you expect them to ship at the same time? Any chance you have secretly been very quite, because you are busy filling orders? I can't imagine there is much left to do.

You have your working rear exhaust engine. You have diffs, 3 speed, reverse, 4 wheel stearing, radio gear. You have even given a secondary mounting position for the fuel tank for when 4 wheel stearing is used, and have made the shocks up on the towers an option. You also mentioned that you would have pics of the body soon. So what are you working on??? Having the packaging made up? Or are you just about ready to send a crate of them over to this contenant??? :D

[CEN Racing]

Here is your picture. Let me try to get a picture of the body.

[Maxx_A_Million]

whats the pipe that is coming from the intake?? other than that... "big". . . btw, the add in RCCA was really cool... i only with it was a single page... if it was, itd be in my room right now... really lookingforward to a video ro qt least some action pics. . . btw, get this pic up on cenracing.com if it isnt up already...

[BoardSlapper]

So what engine is that in front of the .46? It looks like it says 15 on the side of it. Yep, thats big all right.

And I can see that there is an air filter on there, but where it that pipe connected to?

[CEN Racing]

The Engine in front is our NT-16. The metal pipe is NT-16's manifold. ITs not connect to the .46.

[Viperrgh2]

wow looks sweet!

[Maxx_A_Million]

wow. . . i didnt realise there as en engine in front till a second ago. . . WOW... can you get us an overhead view and a front view? the shadow makes it kinda hard to deciper the true awesomness of this thing. . .

[Natedog]

That engine looks goood so far, but. Better keep the quality control reigned in on that engine...we don't want another Traxxas TRX2.5 durability issue!

[rampbrian]

he he he, the top cooling fin is bent, he he he, looks like you were playing, ha hah ahahah :D

so, what caused the fin to bend, you can at least tell us a whopper about how you jumped over a school bus and landed wrong or some thing to the extent of that, :rolleyes:

ok, i am curious about the clutch bell, it is only 1 single gear, much like savage and maxx too, but there is a 3 speed for the truck, so the 3 speed meckanisim is in side the trannny?

I thought that the clutch bell would have 3 gears that mated to a 3 gear center diff, much like my schumacher fusion, if you wanted to you could probly make a aftermarket high/low extra gear set to the genisis by making the clutch bell a 2 gear type and adding a 2 gear type 2 speed ( cam and lever ) to the ring gear for the transmision, ( thus making the truck have 4 diffrent gear ratios that would automaticly shift as the truck drove ) this mod / hop up would require the engine to move backwards in the chassi about 1/4 of an inch but it could work if you were creative, and you guys are now the king of creativity, im coming back with a pic, http://www.kab.freeuk.com/images/dscf0008.jpg

[Racer Rob]

hahahahaha someone broke their junk hahahaha :rolleyes:

So did you jump it over a school bus or something? ;)

Seriously though, yeah that pic is hard to tell anything because the engines look mixed. A angle shot would be a lot better comparison.

[Freedom]

I thought that was one engine with a 4 needle carburator, lol:D

[fezzy]

RampBrian: Unless your someone that lives in the UK and not called Brian then that aint your car, Because I was there bashing with a group of people on that day, One of which owns that car. I witnessed the accident, And no, It wasn't broken being jumped over a house.

[rampbrian]

hey, I do have that car, mine is not that exact car, but I am the owner of a shcumacher nitro fusion, and I diddnt mean that that car was jumped over a schoolbus, I meant that the engine that cen showed us for the genisis has the top cooling fin bent, I was implying that cen was doing something crazy like jumping over a school bus or some thing like that, with the genisis truck that made the cooling fin bend,

I enjoy my blazing fast shcumacher fusion, and mine looks alot like the one in the pic there more often than id like, it breaks all the time, thats what I get for driving like a maniac,'

ya, I diddnt mean that pic was my car, but I do have a schumacher fusion.
(btw, the engine in it is the same one as in the monster gt, and its a good "little" engine -holds a tune nicely)

[that_one_guy]

i probably will not be buying this truck

the reason being that i got a mt2 3 weeks ago and it was a cool truck, until the dogbones and drie cups started to break, the middle of the break disk rounded out, the throttle serveo craped out in three days, and oh yea the the shaft that bolts to the crank came loose so the bell could wiggle around and to my luck the clutch could still engage, ripping my spur gears to crap

no thanks

jake

[Maxx_A_Million]

cant be a good doctor without killing a few people. . . cant be a great company without making a few mistakes that allow a lemon through. . . call customer service... if you ahvent been overly hard on it, i dont see why you shouldnt get aid in your trucks recovery...

[that_one_guy]

i guess so

[BoardSlapper]

Are there any updates you can give us CEN? Keep us on the edge of our seats for another weekend, so we don't go out and buy some inferior truck to keep us entertained this weekend.

[rampbrian]

I think there will be quite a fiew weekends that we have to keep entertained before we can be thrashing with the genisis monster, but be patient, dont go spend $$$ on something you kind of want, I made that mistake with my schumacher fusion, now it is a shelf queen, with over $600 invested in it.

[2 F45T 4 U]

unless im imagining it sumone sed sumit bout this truk being a 4 speed not a 3 speed, its a 3 speed, people are thinking 2 gears outside tranny and 2 inside and then adding them, thats all well and true if u down shift one set of gears.
Think if u runing in 1st on the external gears and 1st on the internal gears ur in 1st gear, give it a lil gas and then the internal gear goes from 1st to second, so ur in 2nd gear, a lil more gas and the external gear goes from 1st to 2nd so ur in 3rd, so ur on 2nd internaly and 2nd externaly which is the 3rd gear combination. does this make sense?

external.........internal.......over all gear
1st..................1st................1st
1st..................2nd...............2nd
2nd.................2nd...............3rd

[2 F45T 4 U]

unless im imagining it sumone sed sumit bout this truk being a 4 speed not a 3 speed, its a 3 speed, people are thinking 2 gears outside tranny and 2 inside and then adding them, thats all well and true if u down shift one set of gears.
Think if u runing in 1st on the external gears and 1st on the internal gears ur in 1st gear, give it a lil gas and then the internal gear goes from 1st to second, so ur in 2nd gear, a lil more gas and the external gear goes from 1st to 2nd so ur in 3rd, so ur on 2nd internaly and 2nd externaly which is the 3rd gear combination. does this make sense?

external internal over all gear
1st 1st 1st
1st 2nd 2nd
2nd 2nd 3rd

[379]

no 1st would be both gearsets in 1st gear then the external gearset would shift into 2nd be4 the internal one even did anything one it is in second on the first gearset the internal one would shift to 3rd and then to 4th gear

[379]

but it is a 3spd anyways

[2 F45T 4 U]

the external thing was jsut an example but if had wat ur saying look at the result.
gear....external teeth...internal teeth...gear ratio
1st.........10.........................10......... ..........1.1
2nd........20..........................10......... ..........1.2
3rd.........10..........................20........ ............2.1
4th.........20...........................20....... .............1.1

same gear ratios mean no increasei n speed or accel.

[379]

1st.........16.........................50......... ..........3.13:1
2nd........16..........................47......... ..........2.94:1
3rd.........16..........................45........ ............2.81:1
4th.........16...........................43....... .............2.69:1
factor in the diff ratio say 9:1 we get decent gear ratios

[2 F45T 4 U]

yeh look wat uve put. one clutch 4 spurs not two clutches two spurs liek the genesis.

[379]

3rd and 4th are buried in the tranny itself with a gearset similar to a servo to creat the sample ratios but i believe CEN said it would be one clutch and 3spurs in the 3spd and the prototype they showed us only had 2 spurs but it was a prototype

[Maxx_A_Million]

. . . why all the 4 speed discussion. . . its a 3 speed and ther is no internal clutch, its gonna be like on the shumacher .21 ST... a triple-gear clutchbell...

[379]

i dont know why he started it

[KTRTS]

OK lets get everything up to date here: .46 engine(s?), 3 speed, 4wd 12 shocks. does it have 4ws?

:)

[Maxx_A_Million]

.46 w/ 3 speed, 4wd w/3 diffs, 10 shocks w/ resevoirs, 2ws, 7.5 inch tires, 220cc fuel tank, 3ch radio with reverse, 4 disk brakes, etc.

i gotta vaccum my living room. . .

[2 F45T 4 U]

kwik every body get in to a big fight and get this thread delelted!!!
ok i was kidding:rolleyes:

[tallcracker]

ummm yeah so about that radio.. any pictures of it?

[KTRTS]

Yeah, CEN, any ifo?










Please? :D

[CEN Racing]

"Dimension X" 10 Coil OVer system with "REAL" functional reserviors.

3 speed is designed using dual transmission instead of single tranny for performance/durability reasons. So yes, there are some serects hidden inside that transmission case.

[Maxx_A_Million]

oh. . . ok then...

(in can be switched with ex)

external 2-speed will shift 1st and 2nd while internal is in 1st, then internal will shift into 2nd (and 3rd overall) only at a really high RPM?

that makes sence, but you say that 2 cltuches are more durable than 1? and that 2 parts are more reliable than 1? im confused, but as long as it dont break and does kick lots of ass, ill drive the hell out of it...

[2 F45T 4 U]

wen i was on bout two clutchs i meant two gears on one clutch. i think its possible to run it in the way they want with only one external clutch.

[CEN Racing]

Dont worry. IT will kick some ass. What kind of information do you guys want?

[Sefro]

When will we be able to see the radio?? and how about a movie or something like that?
Sefro

[379]

[list=1]
a pic of the nose in the air
a pic of the ass end in the air(stoppie or wheelie in reverse i dont care as long as the ass end is in the air altho id perfer both)
wipeout pics
pic of truck in midair
pic off MT2 and genisis throwing blue smoke at each other
muddy genisis pic
body pic
[/list=1]

[379]

and i know u have crashed it we all wipeout

[racinlosi]

What kind of hop-ups are there going to be out for this thing. A video of what it's like when it's running. The body. The radio it's going to come with. And anything else that you can think of.;)

[Maxx_A_Million]

wed like to know what its like to drive it and how we can become pre-release testers...

[379]

also make sure every genisis is tunes suspension wise to handle like the mt2 right out of the box

[0_o]

I've been following this thread for quite some time now, and I must say I'm very impressed with thr routh CEN is going on this beast of a trunk. I'm really looking forward to purchasing one. How ever, I'm not going to just go out and buy one the day it comes out. I figure I'll wait about a month or two after it comes out, this way I can read what people think about it after actually using it and figuring out all it's kinks. Then I will make my final judgment. I'm most likely going to buy one, but I want to know what others think about it and how well it actually drives before I blow about $500.00. Have a good night, and congradulations on the new beast CEN.

[xxxnt23]

does anyone else think it looks like a savage on steroids

[rampbrian]

please please please show us a pic of the truck with a boddy on, I dont care if its dirty, or painted crappy, I just need to see a pic, of a boddy and of the rear exaust for the engine.

[racinlosi]

Yes, please show us a picture of it with the body on, please!!!!??? And it doesn't seen like a Savage on roids. It's much better than that.:rolleyes:

[CEN Racing]

ok, let me pull a mission impossible 2 stunt and sneak into R&D room.

[Maxx_A_Million]

its been 6 hours. . . ethan hunt didnt take that long. . . lol... just tell em youre on new medication and you thoyught you were poparazi

[BoardSlapper]

I was trying to write the MI theme song out in words, but I fear that no one will get it.

Go CEN Go.

[Maxx_A_Million]

bum bum BUMBUM BUDADAAAAA!!!!! lol...

[BoardSlapper]

dun dun dun

Dun DUN


dun dun dun


Dun dun.




BOODLLE OOOHHH


:D

[2 F45T 4 U]

*mission imposible theme*
wow ud do tht for us, u brave man!
btw are u tyson or mike, or neither? cos it says there sales reps are called tyson and mike, well atleast i think its two seperate names:p

[dtdragon]

or a pic of it next to someone so we can see the size of it:D

[budlightnmyhand]

Umm.. I am very new to RC in general i have purchased a team trinity g4 pro kit and i would also like to get into monster trucks. mainly for bashing!!! I want the biggest truck availible and it seems this truck is supposed to be big. Although i have never seen it. If anyone could point me in the direction to see a pic of it that would be cool.

Also i have not heard many good things about CEN's quality, i'm trying not to offend anyone. I would just like an unbiased opinion about their support. I would have to purchase one off the net somewhere since i do not have a local hobby shop within an hour and a half away from me. I spend more in gas than i would in shipping :) plus i hate driving there. I just need to know how parts support is going to work and what hop ups ( there probably won't need to be any :) ) would be availible. Any info for this newbie would help. Thank you,
Michael Harmych

[muswagon]

Ebay my good man, Ebay. Where did you hear that CEN is bad for quality? I have nothing but good things. I dont own one so i cannot speak first hand.

[379]

it is tough

[budlightnmyhand]

You think when this CEN Genisis comes out it will make the price of the Savage 25 ss come down? Also i bought the 2004 issue of RC Car action and it has one of those tires from this new CEN and its bigger than my hand!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! yay

[2 F45T 4 U]

in my personall expierince ive never used cen for help but for shipping parts they were quicker than traxxas but i guess tihs is due to traxxas having larger orders to deal with as cen didnt but they will soon. i could get parts for my cen gx1 in a week ro so for my tmaxx bout 2-3 weeks.

[Neptune]

2F45T4U, 2-3 weeks for traxxas parts!!?? Traxxas UK get parts to us next day! It will be interesting to see what CEn support/part availabilty is like here in the UK. Anyone here dealt with CEN in the UK?

[2k2ss]

?

[379]

can u run 40% thru this thing

[0_o]

How much longer are we going to have to wait to get updates on this beast? I'm craving knowledge on it.

[bjk660rex4]

I just got the Febuary issue of RC Car Action and it says to check the availability of the new Cen in hobby shops January 2004. So its coming!!!! Also, in the pictures they show, you can never see the engine for some reason? I guess they want to surprise us with its size.

[2 F45T 4 U]

neptue i do live in the uk, in south wales about an hour away from bristol (traxxas UK) and theres botu 4 people werking there, im not a big fan of them, however i lked cen, im sure they deal through Irvine in the UK, the book the LHS owner looked at when orderign for my cen was an irvine book. it would take bout a week for the parts to get to the LHS and they were priced fairly cheap (fairly as in cheaper than traxxas in most cases) but way way cheaper in the USA.

[Neptune]

Yeah, stuff is way too expensive over here (a T-Maxx is the eqiv of $740!!). It will be interesting to see when and how much the CEN will be over here.... any indications CEN???:)

[Maxx_A_Million]

send me $500 and ill buy and ship a maxx for ya. . . lol. . .

[2 F45T 4 U]

i seriously would have doen that kast year, lol. but wat bout import tax? seriously in the future do any of u want to do a venture like tht where i send a large amount of munee *gulp* and u buy and send the thing i want over here?

[Neptune]

Yeah, I nearly got my t-maxx from the states but the UK tax wanted £95!!!! Crazy.
Sorry guys, we're going off topic! ;)

[2 F45T 4 U]

ermm yeh cen thing roks:p

[gtimmons]

http://www.cenracing.com/cars/genesis/genesis.html

Check out the specs on the CEN, monster.

Might have to sell my other trucks.


gtimmons

[379]

just make sure the tires come perglued with high quality glue that aint coming off anytime soon

[traxxas-dude]

Id like to see this and a titan twin do a tug-o-war...:D

any word on when it will be out?

Oh, and any word on HP@RPM's for the Engine?

[379]

the genisis would kick its ass

[traxxas-dude]

well, you must take into consideration clutch slippage. Could the One Clutch engage stronger and harder than the titans twin clutches?

[379]

when a .46 is behind it yes

[379]

also the twin titan would break traction much quicker than the genisis because they would kick in too much power too soon to keep grip especially on loose surfaces

[tallcracker]

Originally posted by traxxas-dude
Id like to see this and a titan twin do a tug-o-war...:D

any word on when it will be out?

Oh, and any word on HP@RPM's for the Engine?

that is one tug-o-war i would like to see. i dont even care who wins, but 2 large 4wd monsters with lots of HP spinning all the wheels sounds like fun to me :D

[Maxx_A_Million]

... totally stock with just a small chain from back bumper to back bumper. . . chain would eb aboue 6 feet long and both truck would start with their bumpers touching. . . if it didnt rip off either bumper the genesis would ahve the advantage. . . lower first gear with just as much torque as the titan... the only problem would be maybe the center diff. . . if it weas locked, genesis hands down. . . more weight/traction... if its got lighter oil, itd be a close race. . . if no oil. . . titan hands down. . .

speaking of diff oil. . . what can we expect CEN?

[Sefro]

Why not start with tension on the chain then you wont have to worry about the bumper being ripped off
Sefro

[tallcracker]

CENracing it has been a while since an update. any new news? what about that radio? is it the same mirage as sold with the other models or a new one with fewer problems? thanks

[racinlosi]

Yeah, are there any updates coming up soon? And a couple more pictures and maybe that video?:D

[QUAKE&SHAKE]

I hope they try to keep the weight down on the genesis for better handling, jumping, speed. So for these reasons I wouldnt care if the genesis lost. The twin titan must be HEAVY (I know the single engine one is) so having another engine added weight at the rear would help the titan greatly in a tug match.

[racinlosi]

Any new news yet? Were dieing ove here you know.:rolleyes: Or any new pictures of it yet?

[379]

yeah i want to see teh genisis blowing blue smoke at a MT2

[Billsky112]

Does anyone have the price of the CEN Genesis yet? I found a website that has it
selling for $600.00 I thought a member from CEN said it would be around
$489.00 The price between a MGT
and Savage .25. If anyone can get me
a solid price I would appreciate it. I would like one when they are released but not
get RIPPED of by pre-ordering one for
$600.00.

CEN any info on the price tag yet?

[379]

ding dong CEN are uz guyz out there playin with this thing and not telling/showing us i wanna know just how much mud is required to get this thing stuck(send me one and i will find out)

[No Moa]

I sent them an e-mail about this couple weeks ago, wanting to find out a date and price, and i'll i got was

"plan for Feb release"

No, thanks for the interest, no happy holiday, not even a sig for who answered the e-mail,nothing, seems like i bothered someone out there for asking. Kind of had that attitude, u'll find out when it is out, sort of thing.
I mean i can understand not wanting to divulge to much info, but a little courtisy would have been nice!

I was a little disturbed, i was really looking forward to this, but now i'm not so sure.

[CEN Racing]

Sorry about that email. I will talk to the guy for you. We are updating our phone system, computer system...etc right before new year so he probabelly just forgot. If you give us a call now, you will hear automatic voice response system (or whatever you call it) unlike before.

BTW guys, expect some phones and coverage from RCCA, RC car and extreme.

HAPPY NEW YEAR

Sincerely

Ken
CEN Racing
1-714-792-1923
www.cenracing.com

[379]

im kinda curious as to how much mud it takes to get it stuck i have some knarly mud so soft a big full size tractor does burnouts in it if not drove right and i wanna know if the genisis can get thru that ive already gotten my mt2 stuck in it and thru it i hit it at around 45mph(2nd gear and leaned out as much as possible without losing the blue smoke trail) and it exited at about 5mph with more mud on the truck than under it when it came out the chassis scraped on the slightest bump and it weighed nearly 12lbs when i killed it i still havent reset my gear mesh but one thing i can say is that sir filter is very good at stopping the mud the filter weighed double its normal weight but it didnt get thru there was so much in it that when i let it idle to kill it it quit due to all the mud clogging the filter and it was running rich because of it i have re richened it back and have yet to run it since but it was fun

[No Moa]

Originally posted by CEN Racing
Sorry about that email. I will talk to the guy for you. We are updating our phone system, computer system...etc right before new year so he probabelly just forgot.

HAPPY NEW YEAR

Sincerely

Ken
CEN Racing
1-714-792-1923
www.cenracing.com

Ken, I understand. I know how the holidays are, and i'm sure you get hundreds of e-mails a day. Just was really looking forward to this truck, and the e-mail just took the wind out of my sails. But with the explanation that you guys are updating i can understand the reason, and can't wait to see this monster!
Happy New Year to all
Glen.

[Maxx_A_Million]

yay... i go to IL then to FL for like 2 weeks nd when i get bzck cen has graced us with a few kind words and a "expect to see more in a mag soon"

very sweet. . . hey CEN... i got an awesome idea for you... ya know how proline puts a poster in the mag every month now? (i think)

well... make a DVD or video CD with all the cen cars/trucks on it... and stick that in there! ive never seen it done but i guarantee itd spark some interest in the company... crap... i hope some other company doesnt take the idea. . .

if anybody besides CEN deos this i want like 1% of the total profit increase! lol

[CEN Racing]

We are making DVD right now. Its already in process.

[Maxx_A_Million]

to put in magazines?? with the genesis on it?? can i get a preview copy?? can i get the files from you over the internet instead of waiting for a DVD?

[tallcracker]

ok, if your in the process of making a DVd now then you must have some footage. can we atleast see a action shot of some sort or a picture of the radio?

[banshee_dude]

has n e one seen it on the CEN website?? its gigantic!!lol:D
http://www.cenracing.com/cars/genesis/pic/feat24.jpg
comared to standard 1/8. i hope this waznt already posted... i just saw it and i havent read the whole thred so i thought it waz cool so posted it.

[Nitro 4 me]

thats not a 1/8 truck next to it, its a 1/10 MT2 truck. But yes the Genessis is huge!

[379]

i bet it is huge because i own a MT2 myself and it is big

[banshee_dude]

Originally posted by Nitro 4 me
thats not a 1/8 truck next to it, its a 1/10 MT2 truck. But yes the Genessis is huge!

opps ya sry that waz a typo..lol sry ppl

[Nitro 4 me]

Say Whatt?

[Sefro]

Say Whatt?
ahahahahahhahahahahah..
perfect statement..
Sefro

[BoardSlapper]

CEN, any chance we are going to get a look at that body any time soon, or are you guys keeping that under wraps?

Do you have any pics of the beast next to a tmaxx or Savage?

Is the heatsynch going to be just plain, or are you going to put something fancy on it?

Just pull start, or have you figured out some sort of starting system?

[lerningdriver]

hey guys... I haven't been in here for some time now! my comp got mest up about 2 days after this thread started :rolleyes:

anyway, any pics of that thing next to a person? or any dimensions? any vids? release date? engine specifations?

i'm sorry if these queshtions have already been answered before but I really don't have time to read 18 pages of info right now.

tnx.

BTW: any info on list price? this thing isn't going cheap with 4ws, 4wd, 2gears forward/reverse, 10 shocks with piggybacks, and a .46!

[onroadrider1]

Well I deal directly with CEN and my sales rep was saying febuary was the release for it , but that was over a month ago. When I ask him now all he say is "we will release it when it's done". The word is that they plan to price it to be competative with the savages and t maxxs. The .46 will come pull start but will have a drill start as an option. Oh and it is three speeds forward / reverse.

[lerningdriver]

they actually expect you to PULL START a .46???

well, better go to the weight room :D

[Maxx_A_Million]

. . . lets hope its like a lawnmower pullstart. . . lol. . .

[BoardSlapper]

Yeah, better put the gloves on for this one. When I was breaking in my Savage 25 (that I just got for Christmas, sorry CEN), I had to stand on the rollbar/handle, and yank on the thing.

I think pull starting the .46 when it is broken in will be fine. But when it is fresh and tight, will be really tough.

[379]

built in compression release??? i think yall at CEN should put one into the head

[Maxx_A_Million]

there is one. . . its called a loose glo plug. . .

[379]

i mean besides that

[BoardSlapper]

I think that as long as the handle is big enough, it won't be a problem. One of these two finger starters won't be enough

[379]

yeah and a lice and beefy rope and a large diameter spool for increased torque

[mickeyp]

CenGenesis.com said new parts due in the 17th. Thay would bolt them on and give it a run. Also thay would have some good updates in 1 to 2 weeks with pics and video!:D

[379]

DING DONG CEN where the hell are uDING DONG

[Turbo Tin Can]

tommy wants one.

[lerningdriver]

I wanna c rcca review this thing! I bet it would also be nice to see what the other monster truck companies are gonna come up with to "counter attack" it...

[379]

this time CEN has the mighty savages number w00t


CEN put in gearing so it can do like 60 wide open 30 in first 45mph in second and 60 or so in 3rd

[379]

CEN i know u are reading this post


hey now put down the glo starter and step away from the truck NOW!

[lerningdriver]

um.. ok :confused: ... lol

[rglover]

Idon't know if anyone has brought this up or not I did'nt read all 18 pgs . HOT BODIES has a .46 conversion 4 the savage

[CEN Racing]

Yes, Hot bodies have .46 too. But our is special engineered rear exhaust for MT and their is side exhaust.

Yes i am reading the post and yes i am busy playing with genesis too. We are deciding body scheme right now. BUSY

[379]

i have an idea for that try a base coat of one color masking off some flames and the windsheild and leaving the windshield clear paint some nice flames on then package the decals so the customer can decide the locations of the decals for an even mroe custom paintjob

[No Moa]

Originally posted by CEN Racing

Yes i am reading the post and yes i am busy playing with genesis too. We are deciding body scheme right now. BUSY [/B]


Chevy Body!!!!!!!!!!!! :D :D

[Sefro]

i have an idea for that try a base coat of one color masking off some flames and the windsheild and leaving the windshield clear paint some nice flames on then package the decals so the customer can decide the locations of the decals for an even mroe custom paintjob
Why don you leave it clear so that the buyer can paint their own design on it.
Sefro

[Maxx_A_Million]

. . . give it a non-maxx body. . . instead of flames go fro drips or somehting tribal. . . keep it flowing so it doesnt end up looking liek a maxx body. . . and keep the windows clear. . . also, of course we need decals. . .

still no specs on the servos, radio, etc???

[racinlosi]

Yeah, an update.lol Well, I say keep it clear so everyone's is different. Be different instead of the same. And as for the body, do like a Crowd Pleaser type of body so it's racey looking. I say that's a very nice touch.

[KTRTS]

How about a chioce of painted or non-painted?

[379]

why put a crowd pleaser on it to get destroyed when the thing goes bottoms up i say pack a body noones gonna care if they roll it and damage the roofline

[biker dude 666]

i say put an excursion body on it so it looks sweet. my uncle has a real excursion diesel with a 3" body lift and 9" suspension with 38" tall and 18" wide mickey thompsons so thats why i like the excursion

[379]

keep it a pickup suv bodys are for maxxes

[EvilTwin v2]

Just wanted to comment on something that I saw too many people mention about the top shocks acting like a anti-sway bar. That does not appear to be the case. An anti-sway bar is a device that as one side of the suspension is articulated (moved), also applies force to the other side in the same direction. For example, in cornering, as the outside suspension moves upward the anti-sway bar applies force so that the inside suspension arms are also moved upward. The setup on the Genesis looks like as upward force is applied to one side, a downward force would be applied to the other side... exactly the opposite of a anti-sway bar setup.

My question is, how does this affect handling? I would think that this would actually have an adverse affect.

[Maxx_A_Million]

yup. . . but it looks cool as hell. . .

im gonna take em off and keep em for when i blow shock caps or bend shafts. . .


and then... i was at the trakc todya and the only truck i didnt see break at all was the savage. . . unless CEN can prove durabbility as good as or better than the savage, i dunno WHAT im gonna get. . . my dad says that if i get another r/c it needs to be a 1/8 buggy, but i like MT andi always have. . . i dunno. . .

[biker dude 666]

ok maybe not an excursion but something like a ford f-150 not the new ones but the ones that are supercrew. a 2003 f-150 supercrew. my dad has ones and i think it would look good on the new genesis. i have a cen sp1 for anybody who doesnt know thats a touring car. and mine hasnt broke yet and let me tell you when i first started driving i had alot of run ins with hard things like curbs and driveways and nothing hads broke yet in the year i have had it. i just had to get new wheels and tires so if this new truck is as durable as my car then it will really last and people will be amazed. cen has always had good quality.

-JON

[Viperrgh2]

eeek NO FORD I say a mini-van...lol j/k I say simply go wit the classic pick-up body..

[biker dude 666]

whats wrong with ford?:confused: personnally i like chevy so something like a tohoe or something. or maybe you should put a car body on it.;)

[379]

an '04 F150 would be better where the bed covers he engine and pullstart access is available thru the rear window like on the MT2

[JaybirdLS1]

i don't care what body comes on it, when mine comes in i'll have a chevy truck body ready for it to match my real truck, just like i did with my tmaxx. i'm more interested in the chassis than the body anyhow. who cares what it looks like, it's what's underneath that counts :D and this genisis looks like it will count twice!

[Turbo Tin Can]

Still waiting, my LHS does not carry cen tho. Should i buy a savage instead? I can use my rs4 radio and gear with it, the tray pops in and out and i can get all kinds of parts. Its just for bashing anyway.

[mushroom281]

Originally posted by Viperrgh2
eeek NO FORD I say a mini-van...lol j/k I say simply go wit the classic pick-up body..

if they put a chevy body on it it will fall apart and you could never grt waranty work done on it without a hassle:D

[379]

i wont use the body much anyways

[Maxx_A_Million]

my C hasnt seen tis body in over 2 months. . . hahaha...

CEN, how does this hting hold up to upside-down landings?? make sure its got one hell of a rollbar!

[379]

yeah make the rollbar able to take a average guy standing on the damn thing without breaking

[Viperrgh2]

I didnt say put a chevy I said nor ford found on road dead, fixed or repaired daily pos cars lol I could care less what does go on heck put like a volkswagen pick up concept body on it if ya want..lol

[Sefro]

I didnt say put a chevy I said nor ford found on road dead, fixed or repaired daily pos cars lol I could care less what does go on heck put like a volkswagen pick up concept body on it if ya want..lol
is it just me or does anybody else have a problem with understanding this guy?
Sefro

[Jeckler]

Not to flame anyone, but do you really think a normal Maxx-style body is going to fit this thing?

http://www.cenracing.com/cars/genesis/pic/feat24.jpg

[biker dude 666]

then maybe they should just make their own own giant body but make it anything that doesnt look gay

[379]

i doubt it would fit 110 st body fts the MT2 like a glove maxx body aint much longer

[QUAKE&SHAKE]

Didnt CEN say they looking at it being a hummer style body? Im sure I read this.

[379]

if its a hummer no h2s or h3s its gotta be a h1 or no hummer;) :D

[JaybirdLS1]

ooooo, the new H2 SUT would be sweet on there!

[379]

the new h2 would ruin the truck keep the h2s to the maxxes with 7lbs of aluminum crap on it

[JaybirdLS1]

Originally posted by 379
the new h2 would ruin the truck keep the h2s to the maxxes with 7lbs of aluminum crap on it


ummmm ok :rolleyes:

no need to be a richard ;)

[Maxx_A_Million]

hmmm... since this truck will be pretty damn different and new... why not go with a truck thats pretty damn new? how bout the nissan titan?

[379]

i could live with that

[379]

i could live with that

[biker dude 666]

no nissans. theyb arent big enough. if you want something new why not put a chevy silverado ss on the truck. by the way my cen hasnt seen its body in a long time either. why not put the new corvette body on it?

[Maxx_A_Million]

but the titan is big. . . ya know. . . nissan's first full size?

theres a BIG nissan plant her ein nashville. . . ive seen the titan... it looked as big as a silverado or f150...

[Sefro]

WHO CARES!!!! SERIOUSLY..
CEN is going to put on WHAT EVER they want. So if you dont like it buy another body. IT isnt that big of a deal.. come on.. lets all grow up.
Sefro

[Maxx_A_Million]

haha... grow up he says... we all play with r/c cars. . . growing up is damn well out fo the question... besides, its still a few days til febuary, maybe cen hasnt decided on a body yet... lol

[379]

we all had our chances at that but decided rc wasnt gonna let us grow up besides this thing is so big what else will fit it i doubt an ek4 body would fit

[biker dude 666]

we dont play with just any toys we play with top of the line, very expensive , very fast toys.:D :cool:

[379]

yup they are only toys when u can controll them and ours are fast pricey hard to control and did i mention fast:D :cool: :D how many kids at most high skools could control these cars even my MT2 which can only do 45mph

[Maxx_A_Million]

:(... im in high school thank you very much. . . lol...

and my rascing buddy will is also in high school. . . ive got a soon to be 8 ported terra crusher and hes got a ws7-2'd hyper PBS... either of us ahve any problems at all controlling either car lol...

ill admit, the average highschooler aint driving my truck without showing me the $500 or so to pay for it when he smashes it into a wall WOT, but im not exactly average...

[379]

same here either that or i would crank up the richness on the carb so it could do 15mph tops where even a head on crash wont break anything

[biker dude 666]

Originally posted by Maxx_A_Million
:(... im in high school thank you very much. . . lol...

and my rascing buddy will is also in high school. . . ive got a soon to be 8 ported terra crusher and hes got a ws7-2'd hyper PBS... either of us ahve any problems at all controlling either car lol...

ill admit, the average highschooler aint driving my truck without showing me the $500 or so to pay for it when he smashes it into a wall WOT, but im not exactly average...

dude so am i. i'm a freshman and i drive a 60 mph touring car that i would never let anybody drive. my friends tell me storys about how thier dad crashed thier car. well then don't let him drive it i would'nt let my dad drive my car. also my brother is twelve and in seventh grade and he does all sorts of stunts with his plane. what grade are you in maxx a million and how old are you?:confused: also my brothers girlfriend can race some of the best and still hold her own and she is'nt really into it.

[Maxx_A_Million]

im a sophomore... so is said racing buddy. . . my truck is pretty slow right now but i cna handle his buggy pretty decent. . . 50 mph in less than 70 feet is fun! lol... iw ish i had so much pro-r/c enthusiasm around me... im one of about 3 people in my neighborhood with r/cs and the only one that has ever been to a track, knows how to tune, etc. etc.

[biker dude 666]

Originally posted by Maxx_A_Million
im a sophomore... so is said racing buddy. . . my truck is pretty slow right now but i cna handle his buggy pretty decent. . . 50 mph in less than 70 feet is fun! lol... iw ish i had so much pro-r/c enthusiasm around me... im one of about 3 people in my neighborhood with r/cs and the only one that has ever been to a track, knows how to tune, etc. etc.

dude i'm just the same. theres nobody but my brother in my nieghborhood who has real rc. a whole bunch of little kids try to chase my car but as soon as i turn around when they least expect it i go flying by them. :D :D you should hear their moms. "Stay away from my kid with that thing you crazy little mofo.:D i wish my dad were as into it as i am. then he could have one and spend money on both of us:rolleyes: .

-JON

[Maxx_A_Million]

you ahve AIM? i bleieve were officially jacking this thread. . . lol

[bullethead]

FEBRUARY'S COMING...

[biker dude 666]

Originally posted by Maxx_A_Million
you ahve AIM? i bleieve were officially jacking this thread. . . lol

no i dont know how plus i have the cheap internet. i just think its gay that people lookdown on us just because we are in high school or young. they just forget how it felt all those years ago. if i get AIM in the future i'll let you know ;)

[QUAKE&SHAKE]

Just got the march 2004 R/C CAR magazine they have a first look of the prototype Genesis. They also interviewed Andy "a major dude at Cen Racing" who has driven it.
Here are a few bits out of the article.
Its HUGE more like 7th scale.

He (Andy) says its awesome to drive but totally different cause of the 4ws.

The 3-speed tranny was rad- great power with the .46 and its fast. This is without the correct engine in it (tested with the side exhaust). Production will be rear exhaust and be even crazier.

The shocks seen so far are are mock-ups the production ones will have more volume Shocks are something to behold large bodies and hold lots of oil

Diffs are like those in a 7.5 Kania MP buggy and way smooth.

Tranny- 2 external gearsets and an additional set inside gearbox.

Manufactured treir own servos.
Driveshafts are huge

Some disappointing news for me. My lhs wont be selling it.
GET THIS
I asked the lhs guy about it and his reply was "Why would I want to sell that garbage. Its just a rip-off of the savage and Im not going to sell them."
Now whats even more lame than the above statement is the lhs kid that works there said "Look at the anodizing its coming off of it." This from a picture in the article the anodizing on the plate by the rear tire has what looks like some rocks hit the plate while testing I would guess. Now I'm thinking show be a truck that has been used and used like it should be and doesnt have some anodizing off of it.
Now about the only thing that I would expect to not have anodizing off of it is a shelf queen aluminum maxx.

[Maxx_A_Million]

is this RCCA out in stores yet? the one with the mammoth on the cover or the next one?

[biker dude 666]

i have the one with the mamoth and its not that one it must be the other one. i have to go to the store ot get my magazines now because i didnt get a subscription this year for christmas or my birthday:(