Project mt to low pro

[Mustang_child]

hello everyone i dont knwo if this is the place for this but who cares. i am goign to be turning my old black foot tamiya into a lowrider. i have everything figured out in my head ( and yes the fact its in my head is scary to me). i will be using 4 high torque servos to lift each wheel up and down, making a support to go from front tire to front tire to keep them straight, making a switch box for all 8 of the motions and wiring it all together. i will probably be using help from my highschool computer teacher who is really cool with this stuff and will probably let me do it after school. if anyone has any advice or questions fel free to ask me. thank you for taking ur time and reading this ill finish moe details tomorrow because i have to leave now. take care everyonea nd good bye.

[Mustang_child]

noone has anything to ask or say? :confused: i think thats un normal for the other projects they get lotsa attention heh well i guess ill abandon this post...:(

[DCLXVI]

If you got a low-rider, and it ain't low...it ain't no low-rider, no...

Sorry, just had to add that, from Discovery Channel I think...

Eh, about your low-rider...are you gonna sacrifice the suspention all to gether?

[-=ADA$=-]

i was thinkin about something like that a while ago, i imagined connecting schocks to servos, and using stick radio with like 6 or more channels. Good luck, show pics when youll start!!

[Mustang_child]

i am scrappin everything suspension motor gearbox and all its goign to be like a model becuz its old and wont run real good anymore. i have had this plan for a long time since in may but finally got the motivation to start it. as for pictures ill try to get themeven tho this blasted digi cam never works right for me yet always works good for my 5 year old cuzin :mad: but ill get it workin. as for the conrols i was going to build a wooden box like a car sub box go to this one place and have them carpet it over for me and install the switches for each function. Altho i dont know how to power it yet ill take any suggestions on that so please reply with the power suggestions or any tips ya think i should use . thanks
MC

[JT Racing Maxx]

well if you do it, you beat me to it. So I'll give you the ideas i have thought of since you got a good chassis to use, I was gonna make one outta soder and brass tube. But what you should do is use airplane lines, that are cable inside the thin plastic tube. then mount a thuck size brass tube(painted your color) and hook the cable to a metal shock shaft and have it look like real hydraulics on the outside when the body is on and when its off, have all the servos will be seen mounted in the center of the chassis.


What kinda radio you gonna use? I was gonna use a 3 channel and radio and mount one servo to both front and rear wheels and a servo for each rear wheels. But the front servo would be hooked up so i could go to either side with the front pair of wheels and have the rear independantly controlled so that I could put it up on all three's and mount my batteries on the back end so I can say, lower the left rear wheel, raise the left rear wheel and raise both front wheels at the same time to make it ride n 3 wheels, but now you got me thinking about it and i think I am gonna make a new project.

The most pimpin part would be chooseing a body and useing some cool rims or Parma's chrome or gold wire wheels.

Hope your's turns out, if not look for a post from me in about 5 months in this same message board ares and I'll use large letters for the heading so its noticed.Good luck.

[[HHR]iced-nmt]

Awww come on dude, make it runnable, or else my actual pneumatic equipped .21 SNR with everything in aluminum/ titanium will beat your Blackfoot! 7 channels is what I need. One for each pneumatic piston, one to activate the pump from the engine, and 1 for steering, and the last for throttle/ brake.

Heh, gotta finish my first project first though... Gimme 3 weeks at the most I hope.

[Mustang_child]

im not gonna be using a radio to activate them im going to make a switchboard with the switches liek in the real lowriders but ill have it on my lap or table with the truck infront of me and it cannot be usible becuz the transaxles are jsut about gone so its gonna be liek a living model. and imgoing to be sing the servos liek u said but imnot using plane wire im just goignto use solid metal rods with ball end connectors hooked onto the ball ends onthe tires on the front and going to the rear ill have a platform from the rear body posts hanging out made of pvc block plastic with 2 metal rods to hold it strait out and connect the rear servos to the plastic. any more questions or comments ae welcome critisism is welcome ad i still need a way to power it all please ya can help with that. thanks again.
MC

[JT Racing Maxx]

well then I got a better idea, solid linkage isant the way to go(to many bell cranks) Use airplane cable its alot easier. You can even hook a motor(electric) with one(1) arm kinda like a servo horn and mount 1 cable onto it and have the motor work like an old style train or tatto gun . When it spins, the cable will be hooked to one end of the servo horn and when the motor is given power it will spin and the horn will rotate and the cable will slid in and out realy fast(depending on speed control source) And mount 4 motors inside with 4 cables, with one cable for each wheel and have the negative wires all hooked to a power sourve, then you can have all the positive wires going through switchs (four ,4) so each wheel is powered by its own switch and when you hit a certian switch it makes that wheel move up and down, at the shack(radio shack) you can get small volume adjustments and you can adjust the power go to each motor with an individual "speed control(volume adjuster)" Its kinda complicated but its a great way to do it, but a servo system would be ok, but I have no clue whats needed to make each servo work. But its kind hard to explaine but I hope you understand.

[Mustang_child]

do u ahve any pictures of the wire spoke rims. are they like the dayton lowrider rims or jsut like regular wire wheels. also i was lost with the motors part and the string and all (im easily confused cept when im thinkin) and i dun want it to jump or nothing i jsut want it to be like air ride suspension or as people call them "bags" that just raise and lower it slowly.

[JT Racing Maxx]

lol, no, I'm not talking about jumping it.


The motor setup, well if you put a arms(servo style horn) on a standard RC motor, then have a cable tube mounted near by with the cable coming out of it and hooked to the horn on the motor , kinda like on an old style train with the pumpin mechanism on the side wheels of a locomotive, and when the motor spins the horn will move like a hand on a clock and the"hand" would have the cable hooked to it so when the motor spins it pushs the cable out, but because it a motor and it spins, it would also pull the cable in on the secont half of a full rotation. And on the other end where the cable comes outta the cable tube, the cable would hook to your axle. this is alot more complicated then a servo set-up. I originaly made this style "plane" for my "Dancer" lowrider but I was gonna do the same thing but with 4 cables and 1 motor with 1 switch and when I hit the one switch it would spin the single motor and make each wheel move at a differant "timeing" to make it "dance" or bounce outta control with no set pattern. Also, for batteries, because you plan on useing 4 servos , I would use a 6 cell pac of sub-C batteries, because a regular 3 channel set-up normaly use 5 cells in a recievr pack, A 5 cell rechargeable pack has 6 volts and a extra cell would make it 7.2, but with larger size cells such as sub-C then you'll get a little bit more power. And if you fear hurting your electronics, since your gonna make a custom circut board with your teach, then also add a current limiter and add up what the power ratting for each servo are and buy a current limiter to put between your batteries and your PC board. Plus, your gonna want to install your batteries in the back end(duh) so when your hpping the front end up the batteries make it easier to bring the front wheels off the ground for the "PIMPIN DR DRE STYLE LOWRIDER"

[Mustang_child]

i know what u mean about the cables but setting themup i thnks would be difficult for me. im not too good at wireing yet i can still wire my rc truck to work and i can run wires for the servos. altho u think i should use motors and cable i dont know how the cables would lift the truck up. im scraping the suspension for max lowering when the servos twist all the way up so be like a tail dragger (but wont be that low on the body unless i get sedan wheels) or to be able to sit chasis. also i cant find those spoked whels and ive been lookin all over :mad: polease post pic if u have them.

[JT Racing Maxx]

here they are if this pic loads.

[JT Racing Maxx]

here they are if this pic loads

[JT Racing Maxx]

here they are if this pic loads

[JT Racing Maxx]

here they are if this pic loads.

[rc man37689]

WOW quadruple post thats a first

[Mustang_child]

he had to send in a full 4 wheel set lol they are nice wheels too maybe ill pic up a set for this project along with the 4servos and all i need. i hoe to get pics soon and maybe a video when its done.

[NitroBoy24]

It looks like people were interested after all...hahahahaha I posted now:D
nitroboy

[Mustang_child]

yeah it took u almost a week to post and woudl someone tell me how the plane wire would be able to push the weight of the truck back up please?

[JT Racing Maxx]

I am sure if your gonna have a lowrider , the batteries are gonna be in the back. So you could use a high speed servos in front and high torque ones in the back, your car is only 1/10 scale, its not like a huge 1/8 buggy.

What you would do is get a piece of steel music wire, soder it to the end of the cable, and get a piece of brass tube that will slide over the outside or the cable tube snuggys or with a lil loose ness, and glue the brass tube onto the cable tube so theres about 2 inchs of tube past the length of the cable and the music wite wont bend inside the straight brass tube and wit will lift your truck, you may even want to thread the music wire to put a ball cap on it to mount it to original shock postition abd on top you can get 4 metal and rubber wire tie down, the tie down are steel with rubber in the inside to protect the brass tube from being crushed and it will be adjustable too. And it would scre to regular upper mounting positions.

[Mustang_child]

how will the wire be able to lift the truck back up i still dont see how it is possible to have wire lift it servos i cansee how but not wires and the batteries are goignin the center of the truck where i can lay 2 7.2 racing packs one perpindicular to the chasis and one across the chasis.

[newracer]

A guy with RCCA did this a while ago with a TL01 I think. One servo on each suspension arm to control each wheel. Was pretty cool, good luck.

[JT Racing Maxx]

lol, wire will work. If you have a high torque servo. if a servo is pushing the wire into a mounted wire tube then it'll work. When I say "wire "I dont mean electrical. Its like a small bike cable. And if you still think that the wire idea wont work, then get old bike cable lines because they are thicker and not as flexable, and slide them into an antenna tube, I already tried it, the cable fits good with no drag and its strong enought to lift atleast 8 pounds with a maximum extention of 2 inchs. meaning you can lif you truck an inch and lower it an inch. The bike cable is about as thick as regular solid musice wire linkage. You have a better chassis to use for the project. If I had your chassis I would use cable and servos because its simple. What I mean by simple is, instead of mounting servos and useing bell cranks and collars and what not, you can skip the bell cranks and mount the cable from the servo horn to the axle, instead of from a servo horn to a bellcrank to the axle. I donno, your probly gonna end up useing solid linkage. but if not and you got more questions , just ask.

[Mustang_child]

i cant talk much now im in school now heh but i am goign to use servos because its simpler to me and if u wanna talk to me at night add me to aim ECoastRacer. thx again ill see yas all later.

[Mustang_child]

i just saw the post in here about someone already doing this and i dunno if i want to now... :( . i wanted to be original and heh it woudl just sem like i was copping his truck (though i have never seen it or heard of it). this just ruins my da now. well ill seeya later people duno if ill do it now.

[JT Racing Maxx]

how funny

[Mustang_child]

what is so funny. the fact that someone did my project and it wont be original or what?

[SixVi6-Camaro]

reminds me of my old project slamed Blackfoot..

[SixVi6-Camaro]

no its not just a low body.. the whole thing was siting low on custom made shock towers front and rear.. the rims were an old set of JPS aluminum ones.

[Mustang_child]

that looks nice i like how u lowered it. u made the shock towers from aluminum right? im goign to use a piece of pvc to attach the rear lifting servos on it.