Team Losi Mini-T!

[StevePond]

Team Losi is ready to unleash a totally new concept in off-road fun truck’n with the new “Mini-T”. With all the hype and interest in trucks gone big it’s really exciting to see another fresh approach with “outside the box” thinking.
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The Mini-T is an economically priced 1/18 scale Ready-To-Run replica of the sensational XXX-T Matt Francis National Champion race truck. But don’t let the price, simplified construction, or size fool you, this screaming little race truck has many of the features found on its larger brothers.
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The transmission is equipped with a heavy-duty gear diff and precision ball bearings for the ultimate in power and performance. There’s extended travel long arm suspension with friction shocks, disc type racing wheels and hi-traction rubber tires. The racy stadium truck body comes prepainted in your choice of three colors with cool graphics and detail stickers already applied.
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Best of all the racer inspired radio system is fully proportional with servo reversing and adjustable-rate steering, a forward/reverse FET electronic speed control, and features changeable crystals on 27MHZ allowing for a bunch of Mini-T’s to race at the same time. Power comes from four AA alkaline cells or for even more sensational performance an optional six cell rechargeable Ni-Cad pack. Of course, all replacement parts are available with option parts to follow.
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With real suspension and semi-pneumatic tires the Mini-T can be run on rough and irregular surfaces indoors or outdoors. So when it’s too hot, cold, or wet outside, the garage, family room, or patio can become an instant racetrack.
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The only limitation is your imagination. Small jumps, bumps, or dips just make for more fun. Look for Team Losi’s new Mini-T at hobby shops and racetracks before Thanksgiving for a street price of about $150!

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LOSB0200 Mini-T 1/18 RTR Stadium Truck (estimated street price) $150

[sofa]

Thats cool! I want! I want!

[Casey]

http://www.teamlosi.com/newprod/2003pics/mini_t/home.jpg

[Casey]

Looks like there will be a buggy version as well. My brother pointed out to me that there is a buggy body mounting post on the front bulkhead.

[ross]

Originally posted by Casey
Looks like there will be a buggy version as well. My brother pointed out to me that there is a buggy body mounting post on the front bulkhead.

Thats on the XXXNT too, its not a body mounting post, just where the bulkhead comes out the mold (I think).

This looks great though, a more fun verion of the HPI Micro :D

[Casey]

Originally posted by ross
Thats on the XXXNT too, its not a body mounting post, just where the bulkhead comes out the mold (I think).

This looks great though, a more fun verion of the HPI Micro :D

My XXX buggy has that post, and that's exactly where the body clip goes. I don't remember seeing it on my XXX-NT. I sold it, so I can't check it out.

[rckid11]

I WANT ONE! THOSE ARE SO COOL!

[Scomp87]

I wonder if that new trinity Micro motor coincides with the release of this truck?

[rckid11]

When will it be out on the market?

[Animeboy123]

it should be out around thanksgiving :D

I really want one but i am in debt for a little while :(

[munim]

Wow Sweet!Now there are too many choices!I was thinking of getting an Overland over the winter, bu now this comes out, so I really don't know.It's probably more capable but bigger than the Overland, so I can't play on my desk and stuff.Let's see if someone comes out with a 4wd Mini and I'm in!

[Animeboy123]

Munim i know what u mean, i have so many things i want to do but i dont have enough money. For example i want to either get a B4 or restore my old B3 buggy also i want to get a PPK (Practical Plus Katana :D :D( samurai Sword if u dont know what a katana is) and that is around $250.00. Now this comes and i just dont know what to do, Thankfully christmas is comming up and my B-day is a January 17 so i guess i could what to get some of this stuff then. :(


Now that job at publix is looking like a good idea:p

[treky11]

Gotta have it!

We run indoors all winter at Barnstormers in NY. I hope this will be a new class.

[Casey]

http://www.teamlosi.com/newprod/2003pics/mini_t/2side.jpg

[stefan]

Wow, what a waste of time.

Put that Thingy on an off road track and it will fall in the first rut, never to be found again.

BUT there will of course be a short hype and a big run on those things, just like with HPI's micro and one year later nobody will talk about it anymore.

Great way to make a quick buck...

[Animeboy123]

Dude what r u talking about!!!

the micro RS4 is stiil as big as when it came out, go look on the micro RS4 forums. See what they have done to their micros.

Tis truck could do a regular track i think, put a good motor in it and mods and it would be able to handle it.

[mooplea]

stefan had a bad experiance as a kid ?!??! :p

me, i cant wait to get it, i was gona get a hpi micro to practice with but this will be even better, setup a track in the garage and practice all the time.. ace..

[Knappster]

treky? where in NY r u ?

[nitro13]

that is the coolest thing i have ever seen and at $150 rtr !!! it is to good to be true:D im going to have to get one of those.

[zero sk8er]

I hope someone makes a 540 conversion kit for it when it comes out. Thatd be awesome, doing about 50mph on dirt. Theres people that got their micros to 60 mph btw, and yeah the micros are a big hype.

[psychowithnitro]

heuy treky i race at barnstormers, well i used when my truck was not being a pain in the butt, it needs a new emgine. also i would like to get an electric so i can race indoors but i might just get this and beg lou to let me race it.

[ND4SPDR]

Brilliant. Obviously, people would create mini offroad tracks for them. Imagine, the IFMAR championships in your 10 foot square backyard track. :) Two issues though:
1.)Integrated receiver and esc means that one of them burns out, you need to get two new pieces of electronics.
2.) Friction shocks!?!? What is this?!?! They're not even shocks, they're like spring holders, or maybe replacements for the spring in your mechanical pencil. Weak. Give us real shocks!

Now what I'm really waiting for is some good competition. We need an AE Mini-T4, not to mention vehicles from Traxxas, HPI, and Tamiya. This could be fun. :)

[Chris Pedersen]

Originally posted by ND4SPDR
1.)Integrated receiver and esc means that one of them burns out, you need to get two new pieces of electronics.
That why you replace all the crappy electronics with better stuff when you first get it. I'm going to put in a Novak Spy, Airtronics receiver, a Big Block motor, a better servo, and a 6 cell brick pack when I get mine.

[Racer Rob]

Friction shocks help keep it at a $150 street price. You know there will be a full line of upgrades for the truck, including aluminum oil filled shocks. I wonder if they will offer graphite parts.... :D

[ND4SPDR]

Yes, but I don't want to have to spend another ~$100-$1000 to get it to run like I want it to. I've done that already with an RS4 Rally and a Rustler.

[24601]

Put my deposit down today at the LHS. I will be the first when they get 'em!

[Losiracer]

i wonder if it has a 3 gear tranny. if it does that would be sweet. i am going to get one to set next to my mf ed at the track

[DCLXVI]

Originally posted by Casey
http://www.teamlosi.com/newprod/2003pics/mini_t/2side.jpg

"I shall call him Mini-Me"

:D

[DJ BlendeR]

Anyone notice how much wider the front tires are compared to the back? Or is that an illusion?

If anyone knows the lenth of those shocks and the diameter/width of the tires I would love to know about it. After seeing this, my 1:18 rock crawler might get a dose of oil filled shocks and some better treads (once christmas rolls around and aftermarket parts are available).

I also foresee 4WD conversions, since it uses dog bones, it wouldn't be too hard to convert a rear of one of those into a front, all you'd need is steering knuckles and rig up a servo mount.

[moorerc]

That may be the most perfect dorm-room racer ever! I must get one...

Lets see, Mini-T or School books?

hmmm...

Mini-T!

[Strike 4]

Wow I may try shoving a cox engine into it:) ... Anyone that has ever owned a micro how fast can they go?

[Casey]

Here's some info I found at www.remotecontrolhobbies.com .



Wheelbase: 5.6"
Overall Length: 8.6"
Height at roof: 3"
Width: 7"
Weight: 18.5 oz.
Ground Clearance 3/8"
Motor RS-280 type
Transmission: 3-gear type with gear differential
Tires-front: Rubber ribbed tread w/foam inserts.
Tires-rear: Rubber Mini pin tread w/foam inserts
Body colors: Silver, Red, and Blue. All pre painted, trimmed w/stickers
applied.
Speed Control: Electronic w/Forward and reverse.
Radio: Pistol Grip, digital proportional w/servo reverse and steering dual
rate 27.
Battery required for transmitter - 8 AA alkaline, not included with the truck.

Battery Req. Car - 4 AA alkaline (20 min. run time), not included
Items needed for completion: 12AA alkaline batteries, not included


Will also run on 5 or 6C battery packs with longer run time.

Available in 6 different frequencies on 27mhz.

Scale Speed approx 12 to 15mph using the optional battery pack.



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[StevePond]

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Team Losi Mini T
The Team Losi Mini T is an 1/18th scale 2WD Stadium Truck with tons of features, a unique receiver/speed controller is used to power the truck with a speed 300 motor.

Special Features:
Slipper clutch
Combination Receiver/Speedo
Threaded body friction shocks
4 wheel independent suspension
High bite soft tires w/foam inserts
Ball bearings in the tranny

Part# LOSB0200
$150

[sofa]

ETA?

[WHITESTER1]

My hobby shop said they will have them in the shop sometime in October.

[Bus Driver]

word,Were gonna get ours and race them in whitty garage.I will put his address up later and we will all meet at his house on race nights.lol

[WHITESTER1]

I was hoping the shocks where going to be oil filled.

I don't advise you to post my address here. LOL! Things could get ugly.

[Bus Driver]

Its 3232 Mockingbird lane.

[offroadcrazy01]

that thing looks a bit tail heavy, but then again i said the TC3 had too much stuff on one sidee and would drive like a sprint car.
so what do i know? :D :D

PS.

can a mod PM me aboiut getting my user name fixed!

[rejokerr]

I hope it come in ARR or straight kit form. Put our own elec's in it.

[HauntedMyst]

I watched it run, it's not tail heavy. It jumps nicely and has a tight turning radius.

[Pro3/nmt105]

I cant believe they made this a rtr, I would definitly buy one if it was a kit. I refuse to buy rtrs no matter how cool they are, theyre runining the hobby and I refuse to support them. They really would get alot more sales too if they made a kit. Every racer would get one of these to play around with while packs are charging or engines are cooling or even have races if it was a kit.

[utieh]

Originally posted by Pro3/nmt105
I cant believe they made this a rtr, I would definitly buy one if it was a kit. I refuse to buy rtrs no matter how cool they are, theyre runining the hobby and I refuse to support them. They really would get alot more sales too if they made a kit. Every racer would get one of these to play around with while packs are charging or engines are cooling or even have races if it was a kit.

I'm agree, at least we should have the choice...I don't really like the way they've painted the body and I already have all the electronics (from my solded Micro...) which are a way lighter than those.

[rejokerr]

Originally posted by Pro3/nmt105
I cant believe they made this a rtr, I would definitly buy one if it was a kit. I refuse to buy rtrs no matter how cool they are, theyre runining the hobby and I refuse to support them. They really would get alot more sales too if they made a kit. Every racer would get one of these to play around with while packs are charging or engines are cooling or even have races if it was a kit.

Yeah, and the best part is the track basically gets what 1/8 bigger when you put these cars on them? Thats great!

[YucA]

holy ****!! this thing is badass!!

i might get one, and if i do, im swappin out that integrated stuff with better electronics i already got.

Actually, i wonder if they will sell a kit a bit cheaperr than the RTR for people that wanna put their own components.. i hope so...

[r/c maddness]

wow I got to get one!!!! i was having trouble persuading my mom to let me have an off road track in my backyard but now it will be like 3 times smaller:) theis is gonna be awsome!!!:D

[Ron Olson]

So what is so new and unique about a combined reciever and ESC? Maybe to kids that have never seen one. This stuff has been around for too many years to remember and I'm old! What do you think that Radio Shack, Nikko and many others use? There swill probably be a ton of aftermarket goodies ready forvthis before the truck is in the Hobby Shops.

[Frank McKinney]

Originally posted by Pro3/nmt105
I cant believe they made this a rtr, I would definitly buy one if it was a kit. I refuse to buy rtrs no matter how cool they are, theyre runining the hobby and I refuse to support them.

Your loss. :rolleyes: RTR's ruin the hobby? How about RTR's help support some companies (paying the bills) so those companies can make full-on race kits or "fun" type kits? Need examples? AE, Losi, HPI and others. Other companies subsist on RTR's pretty much exclusively (Traxxas). Of course some companies (like X-Ray) concentrate solely on racer-level kits but X-Ray is getting into "toy" or "fun" markets with the 1/12 TC and M18. What did you get into the hobby for anyway? To win racebucks against little kids or to have fun?

rant over

[SteveK]

I don't like RTRs much either, mainly for the attitude they are bring into the hobby (My LHS says over half of the RTRs they sell will come back to have something simple repaired because people don't want to work) but in the case of cars like the Tamiya Pajero or virtually ALL nitro monster trucks, you take it any way you can get.

It would be more expensive for a company to release both an RTR and a kit, and as Traxxas found nearly 10 years ago with the Nitro Stampede, it doesn't cost much to just offer something pre-built (Maybe $10 a vehicle, depending on how they set up the assemble process).

And if an RTR is such a problem, then why not, I dunno, take the car apart once you get it and put it back together yourself?

Besides those two guys, I don't think Losi is going to lose a single sale because it's not a kit.

[Casey]

Team Losi's got a video of the Mini-T on their website. Here's the link:


http://www.teamlosi.com/core.htm

[ApriliaRacer]

While I'm no fan of RTR either, I'm of the opposite opinion, in that RTR has probably saved the hobby and will continue to grow.

I think RTR provides income to the major players so that they can spend money on things like racing products. Which if you check I'll bet that RC car racing in any form probably constitutes a very small portion of all RC purchases or users.

[SteveK]

It does: No matter what you read here, very few of all the cars sold are used for racing. I've seen estimates in RCCA of anywhere from 75-85% of all cars never race.

[leemaxx]

:o Man oh man. THE RTRS ARE GREAT FOR THE HOBBY. There shouldn't even be an argument for the simple reason that it brings more people into the hobby. That is how I got started. Don't get wrong I think everyone in the hobby should build a kit, but lets face it the more money the companys make the more they can give us.

[Henry GG]

This has turned into a rtr basher/supporter thread! Can we direct it back to the subject a little bit?;)
I'd buy one on 2 conditions, if a track near me raced them, and if it the chargers didn't cost an arm and a leg. That looks like the connector type of my battery that my firebird II uses...

[krisI.925]

im am so freaken getting one of those as soon as they come out.

and why not just change the connector.

[speedydave]

Looks like the same connector that's on the Micro RS4. That actually looks like it may accept Micro RS4 packs. Any word on that, Steve?

[JonBoy]

OK, put me on the list too

I want one just for running inside.I also am thinking the the friction shocks will be ok since its so light. I just wish they would come out with a kit soon I might buy 2.

[Racer Rob]

From the looks of it they designed it to take the Micro RS4 packs, which was very smart on their part.

[utieh]

would a set of 4 micro VCS shocks will fit???:D

[<ans>]

Any close up pics of the stearing setup? looks pretty nice so far.

[rodmanrc]

LOSI: just hit pAyDiRt.. NOW just get rid of all the flashlight crap and put in Areal motor.. ITS 2004 MAN??????

[SixVi6-Camaro]

I wanted one yesterday and now hat I've just came back from the hobby expo... I MUST have one!! they were runnning them there with 6 cell packs made for the HPI micro. They were plenty fast and able to wheelie with ease. they were also jumping them and racing them around. Losi has made the latest craze for sure. I was told it will be out before x-mass too.

[rodmanrc]

well if their monster is half as good as this .....thay will be[ RICH] GOOD JOB LOSI.........

[Sam Rothstein]

Sweeet!:D

[rodmanrc]

does this mean. when i go to race. that i haft to weight for this class TOO...MANNN

[SteveK]

There are many detail pictures of the truck on Horizon's website, including the steering system.

I wouldn't worry about VCS shocks: You really think Losi won't have a set of oil shocks out, probably by the time the truck is out? Would VCS shocks even handle the cycling of off-road, I really don't know?

[FastRustler05]

My i seen this today, and wow, it looked liked it handled the bumps really good and it jump great, it did seem alittle tail heavy tho, it could do wheelies off the line.

[xiddiox]

I saw it today and this thing was so cool and could run on AA batts if u want to
I am so going to get one or two ASAP

[Pro3/nmt105]

Originally posted by Frank McKinney
Your loss. :rolleyes: RTR's ruin the hobby? How about RTR's help support some companies (paying the bills) so those companies can make full-on race kits or "fun" type kits? Need examples? AE, Losi, HPI and others. Other companies subsist on RTR's pretty much exclusively (Traxxas). Of course some companies (like X-Ray) concentrate solely on racer-level kits but X-Ray is getting into "toy" or "fun" markets with the 1/12 TC and M18. What did you get into the hobby for anyway? To win racebucks against little kids or to have fun?

rant over
I dont mean to take this thread off topic but I completly agree with SteveK. Its not the fact that they bring people into the hobby which help support the companies, I just dont like theyre attitude. They think of it as just a fast toy that requires no matience and the second somthing breaks the dont even try to figure out whats broken, they just go right to the lhs and have them fix it. I really dont consider it a hobby if you dont do any building, fixing or matience to me thats what the hobby's all about if all you do is play and have the people at the lhs do all the dirty work IMO its not a hobby. This isnt true of all people who buy rtrs, but it is for alot.

I dont mind companies releasing a car as a rtr but I like to see a kit come later on after they already made alot of money off the rtr. I think you set a very good example of that HPI. If this was just a prebuilt I might even buy it, but when I already own the radio gear why should I pay extra for some cheap radio and esc that I'll never use, its just not worth it for me.

I also just worry that once companies see how much money rtrs make them theyll just stoping making racing kits because the profits are minimal compared to rtrs.

[dugrant153]

SWEETNESS!!

I wonder if you can put your own electronics inside it??

[cabbynate]

Look on Losi's website. The have a 32 sec clip of one running.
SWEET!!!!!!!;)

[rcfreak13]

i was going to buy a charger, but i want the mini t instead

[PCC]

Pro3, that is the mentality of the people moving up from Radio Shack cars: They buy them RTR and expect to throw them away when they break, except that these cars are a lot more expensive and they're repairable. Unfortunately, Radio Shack cars are a lot tougher than these cars are. That's because they're built for the abuse while, generally, hobby-class R/C cars are not.

Look on the bright side: LHS's charge for repairing cars that the customer won't. That's more revenue that my LHS has to stay in business in this tough economy.

This is going to be my Christmas present to my son. Then I will have to figure out how to get one past my wife for me so we can race in the front yard...

[xiddiox]

I started off with RTRs and my son has a RTR
If it wasnt for the RTR I wouldnt have had the money to buy the kit ,the electrics,the motor,the radio and so on and so on
When u talk about attitude the kit guys give nothing but attitude to the RTR guys but the RTRs are how most people start off now and if it wasnt for the RTR cars and trucks most of the people wouldnt be in the hobby at all

As for the repairs PCC said it best
"LHS's charge for repairing cars that the customer won't. That's more revenue that my LHS has to stay in business"
thats the only reason my LHS is still around for me to get parts

Not all RTR guys think off it as a fast toy but the ones that do ,so what ,they still spend the money

I also see the KIT side of it too I have extra radios and servos and all kinds of parts so it does suck to have to buy stuff you dont need but the RTR cost less then a kit and dont cost much to upgrade as well as most of the time a RTR has some great stuff on it that you would have to pay out the butt for in a kit


BACK ON TOPIC
The car rocks and I will buy it if it is RTR or KIT

[PCC]

Originally posted by dugrant153
SWEETNESS!!

I wonder if you can put your own electronics inside it?? Yes!

[rckid11]

this thing is so cool!:cool:

[tphss]

I'm waiting for the holidays to get one, funny, a Stadium truck was my first car (KYOSHO OUTLAW ST) hmm, 9 years ago. :D

since then this will be my second stadium stuck, maybe ill get back into ST trucks :D

[winning edge designs]

On the RTR issue, I think it the only way for any company serious about staying in business to do so. In todays world people want fast food, fast banking, fast communications, why not fast toy cars too! Most people can barely take responsibility for raising children at all, never mind showing them how to biuld a kit, we're all too busy making the money we spend on these toys to actually learn how they work as well as teach ourselves and the little ones.....It's called an impulse buy, like the candy bars next to the registers. The week after it'll be a cell phone, a skateboard, or a mini bike, nobody has to biuld those, right?.....It's just a sign of the times....for most, us hardcore R/Cers are becoming the minority.

On the subject, The little XXXT looks too sweet to pass up! The cool thing about it is it'll be ready to run for the majority of it's audience, yes. But it'll also have many option parts available very soon. I hear oil shocks, aluminum stuff, etc. is on the way too. Us hardcore guys will be able to get our fix as well!.....Jim

[racinlosi]

Everyone should just make the cars in RTR and Kit form. I mean, if it wasn't for RTR, a lot of the newer people wouldn't even be in the hobby. RTR is how I started and now I want Kit forms, but if the car I want is in Kit form and it is in RTR form, Just take it apart and sell the stuff that the RTR's come with that the Kit's don't come with. That and if they only had Kits, all thouse new comers wouldn't be here and the companies would have a hard time staying in bussiness.


So IMO, if RTR's weren't here, this hobby wouldn't have growen this far, or wouldn't be here.

[IAMI]

Originally posted by xiddiox
I started off with RTRs and my son has a RTR
If it wasnt for the RTR I wouldnt have had the money to buy the kit ,the electrics,the motor,the radio and so on and so on


You are exactly right.

And Traxxas figured this out a long time ago.

Roy

[Racin Rev]

wed jim.

nice to see you still are posting.

we miss your sage advice on the xxxnt forum. It has kind of become the three guys from socal forum now. :rolleyes:

[rckid11]

Could you fit a team orion Elite Micro Modified Motor in it?
:confused:

[tphss]

It's not out yet, so... you can only assume.

When it's going to be out like every hit, it will probably have alot of aftermarket mods.

[datamike]

I watched Matt Francis and Adam Drake drive these things all morning. They look great. Fast, with good handling and suspension action.

My only problem is the price! I couldn't get a straight answer from anyone at the Losi booth about street price. Everyone mentions $150-160, but is that retail or street?

If it's street price, they're waaayyy overpriced. Why would you buy on when you can buy a Duratrax evader for $169???

Michael

[sean68]

im gonna guess that $150 to $160 is the street price. if they are going to be cheaper than that.. ill take 2!! i think we will see alot of um runnin around after a while. aftermarket will go nuts!

[xiddiox]

Adam Drake told me that they will be about $150 retail
so im guessing about $120 street maybe less after a month or two

[Casper]

$150 is not too much for a street price for these cars. The RTR Micro RS4 is $179 in the ready to run kit. I would expect to be able to find these cars for $130 at the low end through xmas. I bet this will be one of the hottest selling cars for this xmas due to its size, price and its ability to go offroad! Get a T-Maxx for your 6 year old for $475 out the door and have to figure out how to tune the engine for him so he can break it xmas day or get a mini XXX-T to chase the family dog or cat for $130 out the door and some AA batteries?

[xiddiox]

This thing should be one of the best selling RC trucks ever
It’s a great idea if u think about it

+Hobby quality
+upgradeable
+fixable
+compact size
+toy store price
= :D :D :D :D :D

Now u can’t get any better then that

the person or persons that came up with this one better get a raise because losi is going to bank off this one

[Lowrance]

We(my LHS owner and I) talked to the rep on Friday and I know the cost on the trucks...expect a $150 street price.

[winning edge designs]

Racin Rev, Thanks, i'm trying to get on a little more often. It's been tuff running my Auto shop, painting bodies and running my E bay auctions!....whew!.....I haven't run my XXX-NT for a couple months due to the carb problems on my Wasp engine. It's parked until after the electric worlds when a new O.S. engine will go back in!

A little off subject, but has anyone seen the radio control 1/5th scale Harleys in Wal-Mart, they are huge, tons of chrome, radio controlled with sound effects and street price is $99.00.........I'll assume the new Mini XXXT will be more reliable as well as tune-able.........Jim

[dkj-M3]

I here trinity has a micro motor comming out, hmmmm... & there are going to be aftermarket motor plates to fit the different mod motors out there. Also graphite & oil filled shocks. Ill get one keep it stock, then wait for the kit & mod it up.

[dkj-M3]

the video clip on losi's site looks like it handles very well & is fast, might need some more torque tho.

[NewToNitro]

Originally posted by Pro3/nmt105
I cant believe they made this a rtr, I would definitly buy one if it was a kit. I refuse to buy rtrs no matter how cool they are, theyre runining the hobby and I refuse to support them. They really would get alot more sales too if they made a kit. Every racer would get one of these to play around with while packs are charging or engines are cooling or even have races if it was a kit.

Well i hope you have fun sitting in the pits watching all of us have fun. Whats wrong with buyin it and putting your own gear in? I usually rebuild RTRs anyway...

[empiredj]

I don't like RTE Waaaa, you sound like a bunch of oversized children.

People buy what they want to buy and entry level RTR kits are the future because also of GROWN people like the hobby yet don't have the time to put together kits, nevermind the part selection process. From the same people that whine about RTR try to say this and that sucks and don't get it, clouding people's judgements even futher.

I've been in and out of this hobby since the early 80's and other hobbies and interest have come along since then and R/C has weathered the storm pretty well. For a hobby that cost as much as it does to be build a real scale racing car just to be competitive on the national level, you guys sure to take pride in the hobbies expense.

I bought a RTR Tamiya that I am going to use in the TCS next season only because I don't have the time to deal with putting it together. I got 2 jobs and few other hobbies I would like to enjoy without spending a few hours putting a kit together. So RTR's have their place in the market.

If you don't like don't buy it..

Wow the internet, only good when people aren't b*tchin about something. Misery loves company as the saying goes...

[NitroBoy24]

If it werent for rtr's I know I, many of my friends, and rc'ers across the world wouldnt be in this hobby. Im DEFINITELY gettin a mini-t:D

[Dan H]

Wow, the new Losi looks AWESOME!!!

I remember suggesting a while ago to HPI to build a micro type truck. Now that Losi finally has one, I can't wait to buy one.

[desai]

well i was stepping out of the hobby for good. but now this little truck has got my foot still stuck in the door. it looks really neat and that price is great. I think losi is really gonna sell well. I want to run this thing in my house if that will be possible.

[NItRO PuPS]

WOW

I have been away from rc's for almost a year now (track wise that is) and after seeing this, I might just get one to get back into the RC hobby again. I'm hoping for a kit version of this but if not, I will get this rtr version.:D

[yellafella321]

has anyone clocked this baby yet?

[xiddiox]

It was in a small carpet area so you couldnt see any great speed but it did seem quick much like a stock 1/10 truck

[NitroBoy24]

Originally posted by desai
well i was stepping out of the hobby for good. but now this little truck has got my foot still stuck in the door. it looks really neat and that price is great. I think losi is really gonna sell well. I want to run this thing in my house if that will be possible.

Im 99% sure you can run this baby inside the house. I cant wait. What an rc oriented christmas ad b-day this will be:D. OS .15 or .12 (undecided) for my gt and better brakes. Then a mini-t, some smaller (in size and price;) ) hop-ups for the mini-t, and not rc related but who cares GRAN TURISMO 4. Then for my b-day (january 29) a mod-motor for the mini-t (if i havent bought one in the 31+ days between xmas and bday:D ), some oil filled shocks, a better esc and servos, battery packs, and who knows I might go all out ask for a mini-brushless motor and esc:cool:
Anyone know what kind of run time to expect w/the stock motor and a mini brushless?? Im assuming theyre gonna be up there minute wise:cool:. ahhhhhh the rejuvinating feeling of imagining an course for my mini-t in the and in my house;) I wonder how fast one of the mod motors or a brushless in a mini-t will go? Anyone have a guesstimation??

[dkj-M3]

i heard the factory guys were running lithium bats on it for 1.5hrs. per charge.

[MikeMayberry]

I heard them say it was 9mph with the stock 4 cell pack was was 17mph when they stuck a two cell ThunderPower Li-Poly pack in it. It also ran for 30 minutes with the Lipo's!

There is also a brushless motor that could be used for it. I ran one in my Micro RS4 at the Hitec race and it was easily going 30+ mph and ran for 10 minutes on 1100's. I can't wait to stick it in this truck and see what it does.

Here's the info on the brushless motor and ESC: http://www.razormotors.com/htm/catalog/motors.htm

Of course the combo costs as much as the entire RTR truck! But hey, speed costs money... How fast do you want to go?!?!? :D

Mike.

[orbitron]

This truck is such a good idea. Too bad Losi didn't make a 1/18 monster truck instead. I don't want this exact truck, but I want a 1/18 offroad truck. I am torn between purchasing this truck strictly to support the 1/18 format, or waiting until someone makes a 1/18 monster!

Yeay for off-road in my parkade.

As for the RTR conversation...

When I buy something new I will think of any way to save $20-30. If this was available as a kit only, first timers would be overwhelmed by the optional components and the seemingly endless cost.

RTR drags 'em in, then hop-ups keep 'em coming.

[xiddiox]

1/18 monster huh.....

I dont think I would buy one because the 1/18 monster would be the size as my 1/10 RC10GT
but
for someone new to RC I think it would be a good idea

[winning edge designs]

It's a riot now during practice at an on-road race. Seeing guys with nitro sedans who can barely get them to go straight practicing with HPI micro RS4's in the same dilema. The fastest go about 20 mph but the owners swear they do 45......LOL...I think the bouncing and flipping over on deep cracks makes them seem faster?......If nothing else it will be entertaining to watch the mini XXXT's practice with 1/8th scale buggies at our local tracks, LMAO,hahaha.........I'm gettin' one!....Jim

[empiredj]

I just watched the video and I'm impressed!

I just might have to get one of these, since a AE T3/XXX-T would be at least that much and no radio!

This would be great for small course tracks and backyard tracks. 1/10 scale is fun in your backyard, but in most cases theres not enough space to get up to top speed. With these 1/18 scale cars, that's not going to be an issue at all.

Should be fun... Might have to get one!

[Dan H]

I just can't wait to set up a mini track in my garage with ramps. :) Just in time for winter...

[majikmike]

I have a very modified Micro RS4, almost everything stock has been replaced. I wonder if some of my parts on my micro rs4 will work on the mini-t? Parts like my big block motor and spy esc. Does any one know?

[PCC]

Let me know, Dan, and I'll come over with mines...

[jay272]

Another mini........yuk:o

[jay272]

I can't wait to see all the Idiots with these things at the full size off road, getting in everybody's way. Then they'll spend another $300 on hop-ups to make it go fast enough to be slower than a 1/10 scale anything. I couldn't possibly remember how many micro RS4's got smashed to pieces out there on the carpet track, running with the 1/10 scale Touring cars. They get in everyones way because they were not only slow, but small and hard to see. Please, do everyone a favor and keep these little money-pits on mini-tracks, or in your back yard. That's what they're for right?

Micros, yuck.:confused:

[cabbynate]

Now AE needs to come out with one and the racing will be on!!!!

[Akura2]

Originally posted by jay272
I can't wait to see all the Idiots with these things at the full size off road, getting in everybody's way. Then they'll spend another $300 on hop-ups to make it go fast enough to be slower than a 1/10 scale anything. I couldn't possibly remember how many micro RS4's got smashed to pieces out there on the carpet track, running with the 1/10 scale Touring cars. They get in everyones way because they were not only slow, but small and hard to see. Please, do everyone a favor and keep these little money-pits on mini-tracks, or in your back yard. That's what they're for right?

Micros, yuck.:confused:

I take it you've never been to SoCal raceway... it's an indoor asphalt 1/10 scale track with banks and we race our micros there every first Saturday of the month....last race (9/6) we had 30 cars there and some brought 1/10 scale cars to race too in THOSE respective classes.... A micro with 6 cells and a speed 300 was as fast or faster that the stock 1/10 scale cars and they are a lot of fun... Speed 300=$12... six cell battery pack =$15.... pan chassis $20-$40.... those who choose to put $300+ into hop-ups do so of their own free will not because they HAVE too... if people are running their micro along with the 1/10 scale cars and they get smashed it's their own fault...but if someone sets up a micros only class then that's another story... everyone has a right to their own opinion so I'm not condemning yours but you should look at both side before you "yuck" something.... and call people idiots

http://socalrc.com/images/orpano.jpg

[Dragger]

That think looks cool!!! I'm going to get one.

[Popop]

Well said : Asso is waited there !
Euh ... All this is marvelous but ... when for a speed700/12cells 1:8 EP version ??


Popop (http://rcsaga.com)

[metoo]

Originally posted by Akura2
six cell battery pack =$15....

Where?

[NewToNitro]

actually its 8.50
http://www.microrcstore.com/itemDesc.php?itemNumber=BAT005&cat=1

[xiddiox]

It will be $15 after you buy the Solder, Shrinkwrap, Battery plugs and wires

[NewToNitro]

Still a good deal.

[metoo]

This is only my second post on this forum, but I have to vent on the RTR Issue. It is true, manufacturers, distributors, and hobby shops all make good monew with RTRs. RTRs and ARFs (almost ready to fly airplaines and helicopter) are also what is making RC grow: bringing more people into RC and making it more well-know and accepted. But is also a virus. Mostly lazy and/or incompetent people buy them. Is this my problem? Yes it is. How? Manufacturers only see revenue. RTRs create it. So they tend to focus on it. This results in the top companies making really nice cars only in RTR form. I excuses Traxxas with the T-Maxx the first go-round. They didn't even know what they had. However, with the introduction of the 2.5, they knew a great deal of the RC community was looking for a kit. HPI definately knew, but still delivered the Savage in RTR form only. They had to in order to compete with Traxxas. I bought a Savage anyway and discovered several build quality issues: things that would have not been an issue if I put the kit together my self. Plus, I still have the radio sitting in my closet unused for a year. The oil was too light. Screws were loose in the gear box. Locktite was used nowhere. They didn't even glue the tires. Shock screw would puncher the gas tank. Then there is crud like the body looking like all the others, only so many frequencies, and enigine mounting was not universal. But it was the only way to buy a Savage. In my opinion, this truck is not good for an entry level person any way, so it should have been a kit from Jump Street.

The Mini-T being RTR doesn't bother me as bad, as I don't entend to race seroiopusly with it, and the radio it comes with will be better on batteries than my Mars. I still wish there was a kit too, for about $75. I would use my Savage radio, buy the motor, ESC, and batteries that I want, paint the body in sweet scheme, and those friction shocks would never leave the bag.

How much do you think a kit should cost? I figure manufactures cost is like $10 sweatshop assembly, $2 motor, $5 battery, pennies to print screen the paint scheme, and $35 for all radio gear with ESC. Then the profit they would have added. I think $75 unassembled and unpainted. Ther is cost for packaging the parts, but that's minimal.

[superspeed]

Good points!
HPI is offering Savage in kit form, SS with 2 speed, better engine, tuned pipe, etc. This is a good move by HPI, they are known for making quality and competition kits in the past. However, over the last few years they have not brought any quality kits mainly because they want to compete with Traxxas and share the sweetness in RTR market.
Traxxas has discountinued their electric line(unassembled kits), because they make a lot more money from the RTR's. Traxxas was the only company that sold RTR's when I got into this hobby. They will keep making RTRs, remains at top and bringing other companies with them. Shame...
Losi should make Mini-T in both version, and put some good parts in the kit so it's race worthy.

[Racer Rob]

I am waiting for the Micro Kinwald version since it would go with his size.... :D

[winning edge designs]

I think it would be tuff to convince most people that the mini XXXT is a race vehicle that should be upgraded, assembled, etc. It's hard enough to convince people a 1/10th scale car isn't a "regular toy"! The cold hard facts are that the truck wil probably sell thousands in RTR form and maybe 10,000, but in kit form they would likely sell a small percentage, possibly making some hardcore club racers happy in the process.

What i'll do when I get mine is dissassemble it any way to install all the trick hop-ups, :)!......RTR, Kit, either way.....Jim

[PCC]

Originally posted by Racer Rob
I am waiting for the Micro Kinwald version since it would go with his size.... :D That was a low-blow! Really low ;)

[BlutoSigPi]

Originally posted by MikeMayberry
I heard them say it was 9mph with the stock 4 cell pack was was 17mph when they stuck a two cell ThunderPower Li-Poly pack in it. It also ran for 30 minutes with the Lipo's!

There is also a brushless motor that could be used for it. I ran one in my Micro RS4 at the Hitec race and it was easily going 30+ mph and ran for 10 minutes on 1100's. I can't wait to stick it in this truck and see what it does.

Here's the info on the brushless motor and ESC: http://www.razormotors.com/htm/catalog/motors.htm

Of course the combo costs as much as the entire RTR truck! But hey, speed costs money... How fast do you want to go?!?!? :D

Mike.

Oh Mike that ROCKS! Good info, thanks for the link. This little thing will be popular...if they could get the price down to like the 130 mark...I bet it would be huge. ttyl

[winning edge designs]

I think the only people who should be able to crack on Kinwald are those who have occasionaly been able to beat him on the race track........That doesn't leave many..............Besides, there's always someone shorter and there is always someone taller, unless your in the guiness book?....:), Jim

[rcguy2477]

i recently emailed losi about on road foam tires and this is what they said....
Good question,

We don't have an answer to your question.
I think we will , but we just don't know yet.

[winning edge designs]

Thats very true for almost every new product. They always have dozens of ideas on the table, but decide which to bring to market at meetings rather then just making a bunch of cool stuff......I wish they would do a gas sedan myself........same answer to that, LOL.....Jim

[SteveK]

Foam tires shouldn't be too hard to make: I don't know the size of the wheels but we might get lucky and 1/12th foams will fit over them. Worst-case, you slice a normal foam tire into a strip and wrap it around the Mini-T wheel, and just carefully glue it.

[chanlock]

Ive already had a red one reserved for two weeks at my loclal hobby shop. I just have to have one. I hope I can use the extra battery pack I have for my Micro RS4. By the pictures I think I can.

[chanlock]

I have a HPI nitro MT:D and every time it snows all the guys in my neighbor hood ( at least te seven or eight of us in to RC) pich in and make tracks in the snow. We use the snow to make bancked turns and ramps and we dig down to the grass so the sides of the track are raised. The best part is that it cost nothing to make a snow track. Any how I hope this truck can take a litle snow or myne will be short lived theis winter. Me and at least forur of my friends already have ours reserved. :cool:

[creep]

I bet with some longer shocks you could turn it into a micro Stampede:D That's my plan for it.

[Strike 4]

Mini T is a copied name isn't that what Savage owners call the T Maxx?

[holshotracer]

time to save up for one.:D

[Mr.Pimp]

i wonder if it will use stock and modified motors for Micro RS4s?I WANT ONE:D :D :DOh,and about the speed,rccaraction said it goes 15mph with stock batteries and 20 with a rechargeable pack

[Kev71H]

ORION coreless is going to ROCK in this badboy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Kev71H]

ORION coreless is going to ROCK in this badboy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Chris Pedersen]

I can't wait until Losi come out with mini versions of their other cars! A mini XXX4 would rock! :eek: :eek: :eek:

[Casper]

Orion has announced they will have a big block motor for this truck that will also come with its own motor plate since the motor will be larger then stock!

[spenzalii]

Hah! Imagine if they released a mini XXX-S. It would be killer, and no doubt smash the RS4 and give the X-Ray a real run for it's money

[slaf]

Will Associated will make a Mini T4 too ?

[Dirk Digler]

I have a good source who has told me about HPI making a micro MT. Basically, a 16th scale electric Savage. We will see it shortly.

[winning edge designs]

I got to see the Mini XXXT running at the worlds, Pops and Richard T were cruising it around. That thing is sweet, it looked pretty good even without oil shocks it handled the small bumps and jumps really well!...........The tires are scaled down race tires, soft rubber and actually had good bite. The truck had tons of steering too, pops tucked it into a pipe at speed and nothing broke...pretty cool!.........Jim

[hung_kuen]

Awsome:eek: must have one fast as posible.........

[raderrustler]

Drove one at the RC expo in Las Vegas a few weeks ago...Very quick and fun/ Brand name recognition..Quality Product..Reasonable price..Placed an order at my lhs for two.
My micro rs4's dont like the poofy dirt off road action. very cool products.
Randy

[PCC]

My LHS started taking pre-orders for these. I put a deposit down for two.

[SteveK]

My brother and I just went to the LHS: They have 50 of them coming in (They are the only shop for a good 70 miles in any direction, and they sell/sold T-Maxxes and Duratrax trucks like gang-busters) but no pre-orders, so we put down deposits on two of them (He wanted red, I was indifferent so I took silver).

Then a friend in Jacksonville knows an LHS owner who says they were pushed back to mid November: Nooooooooooo!!!! I wanted at least a few good weeks of running it without worrying about either snow or breaking cold-brittled suspension parts. I hope it's just a rumor.

[Strike 4]

So fill me in has it come out yet???

[SteveK]

No, it is not out yet. The two dates I see are November 7 and November 15, with the 15th being much more common.

[SteveK]

http://stormerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/searchpn.pl?stype=description&pn=Mini-T

According to this page Losi will be having yellow, black, and purple to go along with the red, silver, and blue we've seen already. Yellow might look pretty good, hope my LHS lets me see them all before taking mine home.

[Strike 4]

Cool I think I am going to end up with one just one question this (https://www.ssl-stormerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/seekpart.pl?pn=DYN1420) is the most insane price I have seen for a battery pack do you think I can make my own out of Energizer rechargables? If so wouldnt it be AA's?

[SteveK]

That's about the price some Micro RS4 packs were going for. You can make packs out of AAs, but 2/3 A cells are more popular. Look around Micro RS4 sites for info.

[Strike 4]

Cool it is in the bag I was wondering cause my LHS stocks on sanyo GP 2000 AA's for 7$ a pop. 20MPH is fast but do you think I can keep up with my stock rustie? And do you think it would run ok on blue groove?

[Casper]

Strike 4- Yes and yes. 20 mph is pretty fast especially for something so small. There are mod motors for the Mini out already from Orion and trinity. Losi will also be offering a lithium polymer battery which will increase voltage and decrease weight for you truck both will make if faster!

[bob the carrot]

Originally posted by Casper
Strike 4- Yes and yes. 20 mph is pretty fast especially for something so small. There are mod motors for the Mini out already from Orion and trinity. Losi will also be offering a lithium polymer battery which will increase voltage and decrease weight for you truck both will make if faster!
and peak

[Casper]

Sorry-- Peak and Orion are the same company. You are buying a different sticker. Trinity's motor is a direct bolt in and the orion/peak one will require a different motor plate that they have for the larger canned motor.

[cpittmx]

I put money down at my LHS a while ago...they are now saying that the release date has been pushed back to december 1st! uugh. I already have a cool track layed out in my basement...I'm ready to play. maybe i should see what i can do with my mbx5 on the basement track! lol

[SteveK]

Yeah, I went to mym LHS today and they told me they've heard as late as Thanksgiving. I think it's that the trucks are so popular on pre-order that they don't want to shaft anybody, especially the local shops by selling them through their website first, so they are waiting until they have enough on hand to send out.

[raderrustler]

I now have Two of these on order. hopefully will be here mid november. I cant wait
Randy

[cpittmx]

what happened to my last post!! I posted that horizon is saying the delivery date has been pushed back to December 1st. that post was here and then some how disappeared??:confused:

[areseepro]

on the horizon site it has:

Availability: Nov 15 2003

[StevePond]

Originally posted by cpittmx
what happened to my last post!! I posted that horizon is saying the delivery date has been pushed back to December 1st. that post was here and then some how disappeared??:confused:

It didn't disappear. You posted it in the "other" Mini-T thread. There was the original thread, then there was the one that we created when we went to the RCX Show. All the RCX coverage was moved over into this forum after the show, so there were two similar threads. I've merged the two threads to eliminate the confusion.

[Racer Rob]

As far as we know they are still telling us the 15th as well. Thanksgiving is only 10 days after that. It will probably be about 18-20th by the time the shops get them, if they get out on the 15th.

[kdawgxxxs]

Is it me or does the gear cover for this thing look like plastic not cheap lexan like the xxx xxxt and xxx-s get whats wrong with this picture?

[kdawgxxxs]

Is it me or does the gear cover for this thing look like plastic not cheap lexan like the xxx xxxt and xxx-s get whats wrong with this picture?

[kdawgxxxs]

Is it me or does the gear cover for this thing look like plastic not cheap lexan like the xxx xxxt and xxx-s get whats wrong with this picture?

[winning edge designs]

It's not you, the mini XXXT uses a plastic gear cover, since a play toy isn't really concerned as much with weight. Don't worry, someone will make a lightweight lexan one so we can still hop it up like when we go to Rpm covers on the 1/10ths, LOL......:), Jim

[SteveK]

This is from another message board, actually posted October 23rd:

Ok guys I have good news and I have bad news..... The good news is the trucks are in transit as I type, the bad news is they will not be available until Thanksgiving like we have on our website. We didn't run into any problems, it was just one of those things. We did get a few in for the magazines to do the reviews and I have to tell you the box is pretty cool, and packaged great and it even includes a small card board ramp so that you can start jumping you Mini T right out of the box. I'll try and get some pictures up of the packaging soon..

Richard Trujillo
Team Losi
Team Manager


Sounds like I thought: Shops don't want Horizon to get the jump on them selling the trucks online first.

A new video from Losi as well: http://www.teamlosi.com/videos/minit_inside.wmv

[Strike 4]

Interesting, very very interesting; that vid is sweet. So do you think XRC got one? If so I am getting next month's issue :D...

[extremetmaxxer]

in the video a about half way through the front end goes up, is it just me or did it wheelie? cause i didnt see any jumps!!!!

oh how friggen cool!! i really want one now, think about that if its stock then what would a brushless do?:D

[Casper]

Yeah it wheelies. Drake was saying they were playing with one of them at a show or some place and after 40 min on a li poli battery it was still pulling wheelies on carpet!

[extremetmaxxer]

Originally posted by Casper
Yeah it wheelies. Drake was saying they were playing with one of them at a show or some place and after 40 min on a li poli battery it was still pulling wheelies on carpet!

thats nuts!!

anyone wanna loan me 150 bucks? hmmm i wonder if i could custom paint a body for 150???????

[Chris Pedersen]

I wonder if street tires will be made for these little trucks. I think it would be pretty sweet to race a low rider mini-t around an asphalt track. I might just have to get two for that purpose, one for on and one for off road! :D

[SteveK]

I think Losi said 3 new tires will be made: Low-profile on-roads, Dirt Hawg-style off-roads, and I assume some different spiked tires as well.

[rccarman5]

screw that! i want a XXX-NT MINI!!!!!!!!!! nitro rules. they should seriously make a version that looks almost identical to the xxx-nt but in mini verion, i want nitro powered!

[Red Cell]

Can anyone say 280 sized brushless?

[Ron Olson]

One of my LHS's, R&L Hobbies, said that they ordered Hundreds of them! They wanted me to lay down some coin right away if I wanted one. If they did really order that many (which I wouldn't doubt), they'll have them on eBay as soon as they come in.

[Casper]

I think all the shops ordered hundreds! I just hope they will have enough in the initial run to meet the damand for christmas this year. I doubt that though. My guess is everyone will get about 10% of what the ordered through xmas and they will be playing catch up for a little while.

[winning edge designs]

XXXT Mini, the next Little Thing!!!.........Jim

[*Supreme Losi*]

OMG, it's Tim/Thom Barth or whoever....Winning Edge Designs was one of his usernames on another site.:)

[winning edge designs]

No, just Jim Myers, From Winning Edge Designs and Jconcepts the R/C body and Airbrush companies. wedjim on most sites...........:), Jim

[PCC]

My LHS says that they are expecting their first shipment of Mini-T's tomorrow. Since my name is on the top of their list I get first choice!

[SteveK]

I saw that as well as silver, red, and blue, they will also have purple, black, and yellow. I can't wait to see the other three. My brother and I are also at the top of the list at my LHS so I can't wait to see what they all look like in person.

[SteveK]

Horizon still only lists the 3 basic models, but they do have these bodies listed:

MINI-T PAINTED BODY: SILVER [LOSB1001]
MINI-T PAINTED BODY: BLUE [LOSB1002]
MINI-T PAINTED BODY: RED [LOSB1003]
MINI-T PAINTED BODY: BLACK [LOSB1004]
MINI-T PAINTED BODY: YELLOW [LOSB1005]
MINI-T PAINTED BODY: PURPLE [LOSB1006]
MINI-T PAINTED BODY: GREEN [LOSB1007]

MINI-T PAINTED BODY: WHITE/SILV [LOSB1350]
MINI-T PAINTED BODY: WHITE/BLUE [LOSB1351]
MINI-T PAINTED BODY: WHITE/RED [LOSB1352]
MINI-T PAINTED BODY: WHITE/BLAC [LOSB1353]
MINI-T PAINTED BODY:WHITE/YELLO [LOSB1354]
MINI-T PAINTED BODY:WHITE/PURPL [LOSB1355]
MINI-T PAINTED BODY: WHITE/GREE [LOSB1356]

The painted bodies are listed at $18.99, and the clear body is $11.99. None of the parts are listed as in-stock or available.

And they also list a Parma body that's also listed NYA (Noy Yet Available).

[teamlosiisback]

i gotta get me one!!!!!!!

[WHITESTER1]

My LHS has them in the shop now. I will be picking mine up in a couple hours. Then I will attempt to jump it over Niagara Falls! :D

I am serious about my LHS having the Mini T's in now. And I am serious about picking it up alittle later.

[cpittmx]

yeah i talked to horizon today and they said they were shipped yesterday to the hobby shops and that some of them had them today.

[rccarman5]

stormer hobbies has had them for some time. about a month, wats up with all this hype?

[NewToNitro]

Originally posted by rccarman5
stormer hobbies has had them for some time. about a month, wats up with all this hype?

Mmmm I doubt it. They have had pre-orders for about a month. Horizon Hobbies owned by Losi or they own losi and they are Losis distrubutor. So they will have it first.

[WHITESTER1]

Here is a MiniT video, showing the performance around a carpet track.

It is winter here in Niagara Falls, NY. So we are racing these inside. It was kinda unexpected that these were coming today.
Check out the small video..

Losi Mini T video on carpet track (http://members.wnyip.net/whitester/videos/minit1.wmv)

[Kev71H]

Link does not work :confused:

[WHITESTER1]

Sorry about that...

Here is one that will work for sure!

CLICK HERE FOR MINI T VIDEO (http://members.wnyip.net/whitester/videos/rcexperienceminit1.wmv)

[EVOVIII]

for those of you lucky enough to be in Los Angeles

I just called Ultimate Hobbies and they have about 30 left as of 10:30am

selling for $129

they said they have 600 on order

unfortunately for me in Norcal the internet dept is closed until monday and will probably sold out by then

[cpittmx]

cool video, my lhs should have 'em in monday i can't wait to pick it up. those little things look pretty fast...were the running on AA's or a battery pack?

[EMaxx150]

My LHS got five. One of the employes got one and I got one. He was running it around in the store when I got there. This little truck is so cool!!! Can't wait for the hop-ups to start to comming out.

[chrisAtmaxx]

i think there sweet but hasnt sum 1 made a mini nitro hpi had 1 but it was weird how about a mini 2 nitro with a .06 or sumtin like tht it wuld b sweet and i wuld definatly buy 1

[DCLXVI]

I think that HPI made the mini nitro for a while...they discontinued it pretty fast though...

[SteveK]

The HPI Nitro Mini RS4 was a 1/12th scale car, not 1/18th scale like the Mini-T.

Both the nitro and electric Mini RS4 suffered from the same fate: They were actually more expensive than the similar 1/10th scale versions, and didn't drive as well thanks to their power and smaller size.

[Casper]

Ultimate hobbies sold all 60 kits they got it. They got them on Fri and by closing they sold the last one! Those things are selling like hot cakes. Once of the employees already has on and got the Orion 7.2V battery for it and put a Kyosho modified mini motor in it. Another employee has already put together oil filled shocks for his. Also So Cal Raceway anounced that it will hold a mini class for offroad racing on Wed night. It will be interesting to see how long the craze lasts!

[SteveK]

I just got the call, our trucks are in at the LHS. I'll be heading down in the next couple of hours.

[Gunit]

I just bought the mini-t from my LHS today. When will hopp up parts be avaible? And also wat wat battery should I buy fot my mini-t?

[Casper]

find a 6 cell 7.2V battery for it. Orion and Trinity both make these batteries for the Micro RS4 and these batteries will work great in the mini-T

[SteveK]

I just got back from the LHS, they gave us two trucks on the same frequency, so I swapped my brother's red one for another and we are all set. The employees aren't allowed to buy any until they get more in, they only got half the number they ordered, so they were all itching to drive mine. I only used mine for 2 seconds at home, the batteries were dead, so I said if they put some AAs in we could use it on the clay oval.

It runs pretty well, but they are definitely a bit slow with 4 alkalines (These aren't the greatest batts either), and the motor/gearbox is pretty loud. I'm going to break in the motor tonight, maybe the gearbox too with the Dremel and a rubber mandrel against the spur gear.

The only glitches are that they antenna wire is very soft and hard to feed into the antenna tube (Which mine was missing, so I used one from another car), the wheels don't have very accurate camber, and the pivot ball on the left front shock is stripped. The fixes:
- Just be careful with the antenna feeding it through.
- Use DuBro 2-56 turnbuckle tie-rods cut to length.
- I plan to drill out at least that one pivot ball, cut off the stud on the back, and tap it to use a 2-56 screw.

The only other problem for right now is that it bottoms out pretty good, so I will add a couple o-rings to each shock to keep the chassis off the ground.

The whole truck is really slick: It looks just like a XXXT, only smaller. I can't wait until my brother gets here for Thanksgiving and we can race each other.

[MXMHERO]

Hey casper sent ya a Pm

[SteveK]

Ugh, I just found out that Du-Bro has discontinued their 2mm and 2-56 turnbuckles. Oh well, I'm sure somebody else will make some turnbuckles for the truck.

Maybe I will try Du-Bro's small rod-ends that let you mount it with a screw and nut, so you don't have to pop it off the ball to remove it and adjust the length.

[Casper]

I wonder if lunsford is going to make mini-T tie rods? :eek:

[cpittmx]

why do you have to break in an electric motor ? I have a couple nitro R/C's, but I'm new to electrics and I didn't know they needed broke in. also what are you saying about the gearbox?

[Casper]

Breaking in an electric motor just means to seat the brushes and if the motor has bushings you want to get those run in a little. It usually only takes one or two runs or 5 min or so on the bench. I personally just run the motor in my car.

[aconsola]

Originally posted by SteveK
The only glitches are that they antenna wire is very soft and hard to feed into the antenna tube

I'm glad I'm not the only one, it took me 10 minutes and an antenna-tube full of windex to finally get it on.

the wheels don't have very accurate camber,

My rear camber rods were bent, it looks like the rods are soft metal, and easily bend under the pressure of pussing the ball end onto the studs. Make sure you push only on the plastic ball end not the rod


The servo is very loud, and has a 4-wire connector, so you likely can't use any other servo.

I put bearings in the front wheels, no problems there, but the rear hub carriers have holes that are too big for the bearings, the bearings float around a little, just enough to make the wheels wobble even when properly tightened.

I did find that a shrinkwraped 5-cell AA pack fits nicely in the stock battery location.

-Anthony

[HYDRAMATIC99]

The antenna tube is hiding in the styrofoam that the car is packaged in. It is a clear tube so it is easy to miss.

[fishtale17]

Originally posted by Casper
Breaking in an electric motor just means to seat the brushes and if the motor has bushings you want to get those run in a little. It usually only takes one or two runs or 5 min or so on the bench. I personally just run the motor in my car.

UMMM Doesn't it have a "BRUSHLESS" motor!!!

[cpittmx]

was at my LHS today to pick up mini-t. noticed a novak spy 2cell lithium-ion 7.8v battery pack. hobby shop guy said he "thought" it was for the RS4's. how would this work in the mini-t? Also it had all kinds of warnings on it that you had to use their charger or the battery could explode! Is this just crap? wouldn't any charger capable of charging lithium ions work ok? I have a hobbico MKII which will charge NiCd, NiMH, or Li ion batterys, I dont really want to buy another charger.

[SteveK]

Originally posted by HYDRAMATIC99
The antenna tube is hiding in the styrofoam that the car is packaged in. It is a clear tube so it is easy to miss.

Yeah, I found it last night. It's a clear tube in a channel of white Styrofoam, and I was in a hurry, so it got missed.

Fishtale17-

No, the motor uses brushes. It just doesn't look like a conventional brushed motor because it uses a sealed endbell design, similar to the Mabuchi 540 motors in big cars. In those, you can look in a little window and see the brushes.

[HYDRAMATIC99]

Originally posted by fishtale17
UMMM Doesn't it have a "BRUSHLESS" motor!!!


Like steveK said, it is a closed endbell brushed motor. It is a speed 280 size so a speed 300 should fit right in:D There are however, numerous speed 300 sized brushless motors available, mostly used for electric aircraft.


A 7.2v pack really wakes this cool little truck up. With the AA's it is a little dissapointing in performance, but a 7.2v make it alot more fun.

[RogueRacing]

-I'm thinking the extra brown wire on the servo is for a fet boosted servo which this may be but i'm not 100% sure.
-bearings fit fine in my truck
-Alkaline batteries are horrible, they don't release thier charge quick enough for electric motors so even though they have more voltage they are slower in the mini T. Go with the 6 cell micro pack(7.2v)
-I may cut up some air filter foam and put it in the shocks for the mean time until the oil shocks come in.
-It's not bad in speed but i gotta make it faster,just if i knew what the limits of this speed control were...
-that antenna wire is a pain in the (insert foul word here) get a new attenna tube as the one that comes with it snapps after a few roll overs.
-it's a fun truck can't wait to throw some good stuff on it and watch it fly
-we need a gas version too :)

[PCC]

Originally posted by SteveK
It runs pretty well, but they are definitely a bit slow with 4 alkalines (These aren't the greatest batts either), and the motor/gearbox is pretty loud. I'm going to break in the motor tonight, maybe the gearbox too with the Dremel and a rubber mandrel against the spur gear.

The only glitches are that they antenna wire is very soft and hard to feed into the antenna tube (Which mine was missing, so I used one from another car), the wheels don't have very accurate camber, and the pivot ball on the left front shock is stripped. The fixes:
- Just be careful with the antenna feeding it through.
- Use DuBro 2-56 turnbuckle tie-rods cut to length.
- I plan to drill out at least that one pivot ball, cut off the stud on the back, and tap it to use a 2-56 screw.
Yeah, I noticed the loud servo and gearbox on mines.

For the antenna tube, I bought a new tube at the LHS and could only manage to slip about five inches of the antenna wire inside of it, no matter how much I tried to straighten the wire. I finally just wet the end of the antenna wire with some spit (more like I licked the wire) and it slid right in.

The tire needs to be glued to the wheel on the transmitter. Said transmitter is really cheesy, too.

The steering servo only had three wires but the connector has four slots.

[PCC]

Originally posted by cpittmx
was at my LHS today to pick up mini-t. noticed a novak spy 2cell lithium-ion 7.8v battery pack. hobby shop guy said he "thought" it was for the RS4's. how would this work in the mini-t? Also it had all kinds of warnings on it that you had to use their charger or the battery could explode! Is this just crap? wouldn't any charger capable of charging lithium ions work ok? I have a hobbico MKII which will charge NiCd, NiMH, or Li ion batterys, I dont really want to buy another charger. Li-Ion batteries can be potentially dangerous to use. Novak has recalled all of these kits and have refunded money back to anyone who has purchased one. The problem with Li-Ion batteries is that they're sensitive to overcharging. They're sensitive to high-amp draws. They're sensitive to being discharged too low in voltage. When any of these conditions are met, they explode. Think those warnings are crap?

[aconsola]

The servo definately looks like there are 4 wires, black/red/white/brown.
I've never seen a 4-wire setup like that, the standard is obviously 3, and there are some compact setups like tamtech and the RS xmod that use 5(+,-,3for the pot) as the electronics for the servo are all in the esc/rec unit.
it could be a fet wire, but those are usually only found on high-end servos.

I'd like to know what spline pattern is on the servo to make it easier to get an appropriate replacement that will allow the stock saver to be used. if anyone has goten that far, please post your findings

has anyone figured out what size hex key to use on the ball studs for the shocks? I know I can use a pair of pliers on the base, but that requires being very careful. :D
I tried a 1.5mm, but i doesn't fit, too big.
I also tried a non-metric .050"(which is 1.27mm) and it is too small, it seems like it fits, but it just spins in the socket.
What else is there in between? I don't think I've ever seen any so I figured I'd ask.

Thanks,
-Anthony

[cpittmx]

ok, thanks PCC. sounds like the novak Li-ion battery may not be worth the risk. It sure is light though. Another question, what is the difference between lithium ion and lithium polymer batteries?

p.s. a shot of WD-40 down the antenna tube makes the antenna slide in easily and is less embarassing than licking the wire! remember gentleman always lube first.

[DCLXVI]

Shock oil on the antenna works to...

[SteveK]

- The antenna wire fits the stock tube pretty well, not as many problems as with the HPI and Associated antenna tubes.

- The shock pivot balls are 0.050" allen keys. One of the 4 on my truck were stripped, and I haven't even tried the others. Use a really high-quality hex driver, I use one from Wiha. Rich Trujillo from Losi is on another board and he told me to call Losi's tech support or whatever about it. I'll look for the info soon.

- The servo is 4-wires because all the electronics are inside the receiver/ESC box. If you look at regular servos, they have all kinds of circuits and crud in there, but the Losi servo is just gears and motor. They are working on a servo-saver for other servos, but to use it you will have to replace the ESC and receiver as well.

With 1/10th scale RTRs, I don't mind that they come with electrics because you get good, name-brand stuff like LRP or GM ESCs, or Hitec, Airtronics, or Futaba (Though possibly re-named) radio gear, and you know it's quality and interchangable. With this stuff, especially only 6 27mhz channels, I think they would be well-served to offer a radio-less version, but like Rich said, right now they are just trying to get orders filled.

[Strike 4]

Well they include that crapie radio because it is N00B atractant who cares if I ever get one I will donate the radio to some freinds...

[winning edge designs]

I don't think TeamLosi/Horizon was very concerned with the RTR radio system being an inexpensive unit for this application. In fact since the all time best seller in R/C EVER came with a cheap radio and super slow/weak servos in a Monster truck application it should be no problem in this one!.............Got mine on the way, i'll leave my high end JR radio in a safe spot while I play with the Mini XXXT and it's included radio system!...:), Jim

[cpittmx]

I heeded the warnings and did not end up using the novak Li-Ion that was at my LHS. Instead I drove an hour to a shop that had the Orion NiMH 7.2volt 1200MaH battery pack in stock. Went home charged it up....went back to LHS only to have the owner spank me with the 7.8 volt Li-Ion pack. It makes a huge difference, especially off the line. I'll wait a week or so and see if his pack explodes..if not im getting one. The good news is the hobby town U.S.A i went to had the orion packs on sale for $27.00 so I bought two...can't beat that!

[dkj-M3]

Go to radio shack & get channels 7-12. It works. $16 a pop.

[RogueRacing]

Anyone know how much voltage this ESC can take?

who makes servo that'll even fit in this thing? that servo is tiny i'm surprised it works as good as it does.

knock the radio system all you want but it's a lot better than traxxas' radio that they sell with the T/E-maxx. at least you can limit steering travel!

[Razoo]

Picked up my mini yesterday. Went home cleaned up the cellar and had a ball with it. Called up the hobby shop where I bought it and told them to set aside another one, I pick it up tomorrow. Now I can race inside in my own home when its raining or snowing outside. Next on the list is some 7.2 volt packs.

[dkj-M3]

Originally posted by dkj-M3
Go to radio shack & get channels 7-12. It works. $16 a pop.

Look for the xmod cars.

[PCC]

Originally posted by cpittmx
I heeded the warnings and did not end up using the novak Li-Ion that was at my LHS. Instead I drove an hour to a shop that had the Orion NiMH 7.2volt 1200MaH battery pack in stock. Went home charged it up....went back to LHS only to have the owner spank me with the 7.8 volt Li-Ion pack. It makes a huge difference, especially off the line. I'll wait a week or so and see if his pack explodes..if not im getting one. The good news is the hobby town U.S.A i went to had the orion packs on sale for $27.00 so I bought two...can't beat that! Read this before getting that pack. (http://www.teamnovak.com/Recall/Li_ion_Recall.htm)

[Ron Olson]

For 150 Toad Skins you're not going to get a top-of-the -line radio system. You're not getting oil-filled shocks or Titanium anything either!
My LHS got 40 of these this week and only have 3 left which probably will be gone by the weekend. This has got to be the hottest R/C model out there since the POS Pro Boat Miss Bud.

[Casper]

Ultimate hobbies has 400 more on the way. They sold there first 60 in 3 days! I think this car has great potential to be more popular then the T-MAXX!:eek:

[Accord]

Originally posted by Ron Olson
This has got to be the hottest R/C model out there since the POS Pro Boat Miss Bud.

Are you talking about the 1/8 or 1/12 version?

I happen to own the 1/8 version and it is anything but a POS. Everything on it is high quality, even the included HiTec radio system and G230PUM engine. The boat is very stable, and it is very easy and takes very little money to upgrade it.

Of course the boat is not the ultimate racing machine, but for someone who just wants to mess around in a lake or race in a spec class, it's perfect.

For the money, you can't beat it.

http://www.radiocontrolzone.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=137044

I'd be more than happy to continue this discussion with you via private messages.

Thanks

[cpittmx]

Is it ok to push forward on the trigger for braking...or since this is essentially throwing the car into reverse is that destroying the gears? never had an electric car before and nitro's have brakes.

[HYDRAMATIC99]

Originally posted by RogueRacing


who makes servo that'll even fit in this thing? that servo is tiny i'm surprised it works as good as it does.



The electronics for the "servo" are housed in the Rx/esc unit, so to change to a different servo you would need to change the rx and esc to something that has the ability for standard equipment(3 wire hookup).

[Ron Olson]

The 1/12 scale. People bought a lot of these purely because of what is was, a Miss Bud. They found out later that it wasn't a Newbie boat plus they have a lot of problems with them. I'm used to racing high quality boats myself so I guess that I have higher expectations. I haven't any experience with the 1/8 Miss Bud yet as far as seeing one run, so I can't make any comments on it but have worked on a bunch of the 1/12 so far for other people.

[cpittmx]

is this the mini-t forum?

[Ron Olson]

Sorry for throwing off the subject. I was just making a comparison .

[Accord]

Originally posted by cpittmx
is this the mini-t forum?

No, it's the Mini-T thread in the Team Losi forum :D.

[PCC]

I took the gearbox apart today and found two surprises. The gears are ballbearing supported and the gears are bone dry. Only the small diff gears have a smattering of white grease on them. After greasing these gears, the gear noise is still there!

When disassembling the gearbox, you do not need to remove the spur gear, motor plate, or motor. Just disconnect the motor leads, remove the six screws on the bottom of the chassis holding the gearbox assembly in place, remove the nut and long bolt holding the front of the gearbox to the shock tower, and the whole assembly pops right out of there. Then you take out the three screws on the opposite side from the motor plate and one screw from the motor guard and the gearbox comes apart.

[SteveK]

I think a good bit of that noise is the motor: Some break-in would help quiet it down. Installing bearings in the rear axles should help as well.

I noticed that in big carsm when I used low-frequency ESCs, the motors were much noisier than with high-frequency ESCs. Some of it might be the ESC as well.

Also, the plastic is very rigid, and things are bolted together pretty securely, which can allow a lot of sound to pass though everything.

[dkj-M3]

Found this on another site:
swapping the servo & electronics:

"HS-55 as steering servo
I work here at a local hobby shop in northern Utah. we just got a few mini T's in and they are awesome. Although my biggest beef with the truck was the electronics. specificaly the servo. after a wee bit a tweeking I was able to use a Hitec Hs-55 in place of the cheesey thing it came with.
It takes a few minutes to to but not bad. to start pull the stock servo out of the car and take off the saver. next pull the four screws out of the bottom of the servo. take off the top and remove only the gear that has the hex end. now, do the same to a HS-55. take the original gear from the old steering servo and if you look closely on the top of the gear itself (not the part that you would screw the arm to) there is a little nub that must be trimmed off in order for the gears to rotate freely. there is also a nub in the top of the case. now put the old gear on the hitec servo. being sure to line up the flat edge on the pot with the flat edge in the gear. put the servo back together. for mounting the servo trim a tiny bit off the edge of the tab and use the old servo to help line up the holes for mounting. from ther it is just merely putting the car back together. you will have to convert over to standard electronincs after the new servo, but hey, wasn't that the point!
I am now running a novak spy and XXl in place of the old equipment, as well as a Wattage 370 motor in place of the stock motor. Very fast.

well I hope that helped solve a few issues"

[cpittmx]

Originally posted by cpittmx
Is it ok to push forward on the trigger for braking...or since this is essentially throwing the car into reverse is that destroying the gears? never had an electric car before and nitro's have brakes.

[Casper]

The ESC has a break function before you go into reverse to save the gears. This car really does not have enought power to really screw up the gears though.

[sean68]

i just picked up the last one my lhs had!! this thing is a blast!!!

[slaf]

What about the runtime with AA batteries ?

[Strike 4]

I got to drive one at the LHS today with 4 AA's it was awesome they said they will start racing them within 4 weeks, just curious how much more speed do you gain with 6 cells? And what body color is your favorite?

[xXSavage25Xx]

I just picked one up on the spur of the min deals... I really like the truck .... I will soon be ready for a diff motor tho and something other than these AA batteries!

[cpittmx]

receiver went out on my mini-t today. i thought it acted funny from the beggining..it would glitch and didn't have much of a range. all the sudden it just stopped working. If i hold the radio right next to the car it responds to the radio if its a foot or more away it doesn't work. I tried changing batteries and crystals and made sure everything was plugged in. bummer guess im going to be waiting for a new receiver. wonder how long that will take?

[cpittmx]

strike 4,

6 cells is much faster, i was very disappointed when i ran mine with the aa's. after putting in the 6 cell pack it became a fun little truck.