Why are Monster GT's not selling

[AJH]

I have noticed that very few of the MGT's on ebay are selling. Even at 449. I wonder why.

Are people waiting for the Losi or the CEN Monster trucks?

Did most of the buyers get sick of the year of constant delays and purchase a Savage or other truck instead?

Did Associated miss the mark with not specifying a .25+ engine and put the cost too high?

I personally think that Associated should come out with a Team version ASAP with the bigger engine and alum shocks. They should also ditch the plastic reservoirs and put chrome or black in place of the blue on the radio. A Kit version would be even better. I think that the truck is sound but after a year of .25 + trucks coming out I would have thought that someone would have changed the specs before it went to market.

[Lordkett]

I only see 2 on eBay right now. There were like 6 on eBay last week. I know that Tower hobbies sold out of their initial shipment and so did a few other places. So unless you have some secret sales information it seems like they are selling pretty well to me.

[Jamie]

My son got his and mine is on back order. Buying ours from our LHS where I think most people get theirs.:) If you read the forums it seems like lots where sold and even more have them on back order.

[Ninja Viper]

Although I don't want to admit it AJH might be right. When I did a search on Ebay for completed Monster GT auctions, only 6 out of 16 completed with bids.
Now I don't really like using Ebay as an example because there are many factors that could come into play (such as price, feedback and shipping).
Other factors that could come into play is limited aftermarket support, season (we currently have snow on the ground) stiff competition with newly released Savage .25 and SS.
Im am not panicing, there is still lots of time for the MGT to prove itself. Mine is coming next week. :)

[GILLAGAN]

When I was at Pegasus last week they were moving out fast. They only had one when I left. They must have sold a few in the hour I was down there.

[RCRACER2471]

we carried a few at my hobby shop a few days ago and were gone in two days! Its still new so you have to give it some time when more of the reviews come out for it and people can decide what best for them to get. Especially since its starting to get around Christmas. You never know......

[QUAKE&SHAKE]

Now that you mention it.
Im pretty sure that in the first 2 weeks of the Savage release there were like 5-6 times the number of reviews than what I have read of MGT reviews by people of these forums.

Like when the Savage21 hit the market there was a different review popping up every couple hours damn near all from different owners. This went on for weeks.
Not seeing this with the MGT release so far.

[RCRACER2471]

The release date of the truck is what I think caused the real drawback as it not being as popular as most people would think it would be. Mainly the cause of it taking too long for it actually to come out. The outcome is a lot of people couldnt wait any longer and ended up getting something like a Savage....

[GILLAGAN]

You also haven't heard that much about the MGT in the magazines lately. I didn't even know it was being released until about three weeks ago. I guess you can tell it's not a Traxxas.

[RCRACER2471]

Theres already been a review on it in lastest issue of RCCA and Xtreme RC. If you havent seen any of the reviews for it I would check it out......

[Jamie]

The Savage's earlier release by a year took away a lot of MGT sales (I bought a Savage also) not to mention the release of the new TMaxx 2.5. There are only so many monster truck buyers out there and the market may be saturated. Also a good number of Savage owners (myself included) have bought the MGT also from what I read on the forums.

[Puffnstuff]

You know I was one of those persons who was looking for the monster gt when it was supposed to make it's debut back in Feb but didn't. Each time I checked on it the release date was being pushed back further. I finally gave up on it and when the savage 25 hit the market two of them found a home with me. Now I don't really give a hoot about the mgt but my oldest does like it but I can't justify the price when I can get a savage 25 + reverse module from tower for $445 shipped.

[Lordkett]

A lot of the news you hear about r/c vehicles immediately after they are released are complaints. Even the recently released almighty Savage .25 had a severe problem with the screws on the backplate of the engine coming loose. I have seen a few owner reviews of the the MGT so far, but only 1 major complaint, which apparently came from some screws on the motor mount coming loose. Personally I am very glad that AE took the time to make sure that the MGT was as good as possible when it was finally released.

[AJH]

I am not desputing that the few LHS or big mail order shops that were able to get them are not selling out. What I am supprised at is the overal lack of intreest by a large number of people. T-maxx 2.5 and savage were going on Ebay like hotcakes last year and are still fairly strong. Now many people are not even bothering with the auctions for 449 for a 499 truck. I do use ebay for popularity measures.

I think that since I have waited over a year for this truck and even sold my 24.7 TMaxx for it last year I will continue to wait and see if the CEN or Losi is any better. Also Associated may wake up and see that they missed the specs. I am not going to get a 500 truck and put another 200 into it to get it to the same level as a 430 Savage.

[kcobra]

I'd say the main problem is the release date. They released it just as winter is starting up. People in the top half of the country aren't going to buy a $500 truck they cann't run for six months.

[Lordkett]

Once again I only see 3 on Ebay, 1 of which is a brand new auction. I believe that I understand what you are trying to say, that so soon after it's release that there should not be any on Ebay at all. All I can say is that many people myself included don't trust Ebay. That is why I got my MGT from Tower Hobbies even though it was more expensive. I look at the online retailers and I see that most do not have any instock. Only 1 of the trucks currently availible on Ebay seem to be from an online retailer the others seem to be from individuals, which once again says that hobby shops have pretty sold the inventory that they did have.

So far from the owner reviews of the MGT by people who also have a Savage, the MGT is not the one that will need to be upgraded.

[BlutoSigPi]

Maybe the interest in it is gone now after waiting forever for them to "get it right". Or maybe it's winter now and no one wants to buy something they can't easily use till spring. Maybe by spring losi and cen will have their trucks out and the MGT will be outclassed anyway so people are waiting to see. So maybe that's it. Maybe. :p

[ElPolloDiablo]

Originally posted by kcobra
I'd say the main problem is the release date. They released it just as winter is starting up. People in the top half of the country aren't going to buy a $500 truck they cann't run for six months.

Yup, theres already nearly a foot of snow on the ground here. time to spend money on indoor onroad racing and save the monster truck purchases for the spring.

[muswagon]

Again, I had a very strong feeling that this would happen. However, i still do feel very bad about how poorly I put my point across.

TPhalen, The post that advises coming out with a crazy engine optioned truck might be the ticket, lets face it, big engines are what is selling trucks right now. I personally would love to see the new .70 in the V2 find its ways into a chassis that is worthy of its power. The MGT fits that bill in my opinion. Yes I know that is a pipedream.

Now my big question. Can AE put another manufactureres engine in the truck without breaking whatever TTR agreement they have? Or does TTR have a larger than .21 powerplant coming out? Another option would be a real kit without engine and tranny, at a nice savings. That way people could add the MX3 and the Wasp/Picco .26 (most popular radio and engine combo that I read on here). Just my thoughts.

[MaxxThrasher]

By that time CEN's Genesis will be in stores and AE's GT sales will get hit hard again.


Timing is everything.;)

[Lordkett]

Thuder Tiger makes the .70, and there are stil only 2 MGTs' on Ebay. Most other places are sold out, for the state that I live in the weather is perfect right now.

[Bansheeman]

AJH-Where do you get that you have to put $200 in the MGT for it to compete with the Savage .25. I've driven both (MGT and Savage .25) and the MGT is NOT the one that needs the upgrading!!!! Believe it or not the MGT accelerates harder then the Savage .25 and tops out about the same. (about 35 mph according to a cop; the Savage does NOT hit 40, that is a LIE!) If you don't know what your talking about then DON'T!!!!:mad:

Muswagon-Good change of thinkin'

[Avalanche]

I think its got alot to do with the time of year the truck was released and its also up against some stiff cometition from HPI. With the SS and the .25 rtr being cheaper the MGT doesnt make much sense. I dont think the CEN will be much competition, the CEN company has some serious quality issues to overcome.

[muswagon]

Lordkett,

I meant can they put in a .25 or .26 from another company. I had already figured the .70 idea was a non starter :) (speaking of which, my EK4 V1 was a Non Starter) heheheh, yes I know that was very bad!

What quality issues does CEN have? I thought the MT2 was good according to everyone on the forum?

[Ninja Viper]

Finally got to drive mine tonight (had to dodge the trick or treaters) but wow!!! You guys, seriously, this truck rocks!!
Awesome acceleration, beautiful suspension and the attention to detail, WOW!
My favorite is the way ot squats when you lay on the throttle, with a little stiffer springs and gearing this thing will wheelie all day.
All you nay sayers.....watch out, cause this truck is going to surprise you. Unfortunatley it will be sometime next spring before I will get to try it on the track, but I can tell already that it will be great there too,

[shadowghost1]

Over priced and under powered.

[Bansheeman]

So you didn't like YOURS? Or don't you have one?

[Freedom]

It looks like a great truck but the T-Maxx will have it beat in every category, same with the Titan.

[r.c.dealer]

Looks like the MGT is selling very well, don't know why some people think its not selling by just basing sales off some ebay auctions.

[morfracerX]

me not buying had alot to do with the amount of time it took the truck to come out, that along with the the no kit factor just killed it for me. i made up my mind to stick with OFNA and get another DOM when i found out that the MGT BFT would not be a race based turck and would be a basher (what AE is known for).

[RCRACER2471]

Originally posted by morfracerX
me not buying had a do with the amount of time it took the truck to come out, that along with the the no kit factor just killed it for me. i made up my mind to stick with OFNA and get another DOM when i found out that the MGT BFT would not be a race based turck and would be a basher (what AE is known for).

Ae is not known for bashing! What do you call the Nitro TC3 and the RC10GT. Both are very competitive in their own classes. The TC3 is the best touring car out there right now and your calling it a bashing car? I dont think so.......

shadowghost1- It obvious you dont have one and its just stupid to make a comment like that if you dont even have one. Before making such a remark just think what your saying.

Ive had my MGT for a little over a week now. Runs great! The handling could not be any better. Has plenty of speed and is NOT underpowered as what SOME people think. I believe it can be very competive with the Savage.......

[muswagon]

My opinion is if there are unsold trucks on Ebay, which are $50 less than Towers' price, then these are not selling well.

We should however leave judgement until spring time. Does everyone remember the crazy T-Maxx sales this spring, when the only unsold trucks were the ones that were wayyyy overpriced on Ebay?

[GILLAGAN]

When I'm shopping on e bay I'm looking for the killer deal not for the same price that you can get it locally. And when you buy local you may think you'll get some sort of better customer support. I mail ordered mine because the place I bought from stands behind their stuff. My local hobby shop has a real winer for a owner and all he's in it for is money. E Bay is no place to judge a trucks success I've seen people on e bay paying more than they go for in magazines there is just no telling what will happen on e bay.

[FlashLCD33]

Non functional resovoirs, makes you wonder what else they added to it to increase cost for no reason :)

[GILLAGAN]

The shocks dont bother me. How many people keep the stock stuff on any truck. When I bought the Savage and found out it was slow now that bothered me. But how many keep the stock engine's for long either. My MGT has a 24.7 pro in it now and I haven't broke a thing it wasn't like that with the Savage it was the dog bones and the uprights the clutch didn't hold up long either but now it's a fast tough truck. Sure I've replaced other stuff on the Savage but I'm still happy with it . Now the T Maxx I dont even want to talk about that.

[AJH]

I do not have one because I have been waiting for a year for this and I am a little disappointed. I was hoping that it would not need a new engine to be as fast as my Old Tmaxx with a 24.7 in it. Also with the new offerings from Cen, Losi and XTM I am waiting to see if they may be better trucks for me.

I do not doubt that the MGT is a good truck but I hoped for a .25 engine on the final release. I know that it is only a number and that a good .21 may equal the .25 but I like the added size for bosting.

[AJH]

Also I am trying to find out if others are in the same frame of mind or they just do not like the truck.

If you have a MGT then please post all of your likes and try to change my mind on the truck.

[Windsorguy99]

I was impressed to find out that the truck has CVD's throughout...front, rear and center...

The gearing on the MGT is a concern for me, though. The gearing is ok I guess from what I've read in the reviews. It accelerates well and has an astounding top speed for a 12lb truck of 32-34mph:confused:

The Savage was a slug because it was only in the low 30's in stock 21BB form???

I just don't get the reviews....it's hard to read them and extract the FACTS...

Once you put race tires onto a MGT you're going to have to gear up...WWWAAAAYYY up to get the same final drive ratio....

Those tires are HUGE...

A properly broken in and tuned Savage WILL go like mad off the line....the dogbones and uprights HAVE been upgraded and fixed...(my 21 from June had bones the same size as the HD bones that I bought because I read everywhere ny old ones would self destruct....the HD's are still in the bag)

The Savage lacks a real tuned pipe...and the clutch does need some love to get it working properly.

Lets get a couple gallons through an MGT though before we annoint it as the new king of the hill.

I'm sure AE put a lot of work into ironing out the bugs....but we won't know until there are more of them being abused.

Seems to me like they took the T-Maxx as a starting point...figured out what they liked...(flat pan style layout, suspention layout, etc) then looked at the Savage and figured out what they loved (long travel plus suspension, 1 set of mounts properly configured, big block power, larger size, roto-start *although AE's system absolutely ROCKS*, etc)

This truck definitely has potential...but I don't see anything to motivate me to discard my Savage and go running to Associated..and I DO like Associated...

The earlier poster that said AE is best at making bashers must be smoking cheap crack from a XXX shaped pipe...just because the their vehicles are robust enough to make it through an entire race day without disintegrating doesn't make them bashers.

There is a reason why AE has won so many championships over the years...and why whenever they are first to the party Lois is scrambling to keep up or out-do them.

That being said..I don't see too much that is revolutionary here...the tank is cool...but I've heard of issues already with poor plastic quality causing cracks...I'm sure it will be fixed....

The transverse mounted engine is cool...allows for drill start and potentially bump start????

The extruded Al tunnel is cool...gets rid of those cheesy looking bridges under the chassis pan..

All in all..they've done enough for the AE guys to say it's NOT a Maxx clone...but they've left enough similar stuff for the Maxx guys to say that it IS a clone...and us Sacagers can even see some things that the Savage has inspired on the truck as well.

Put it all together and that's not a BAD thing...I'll reserve judgement on it until I see one in action against properly set up Savages and Maxxes with my own eyes

[Bansheeman]

AJH-You thought the MGT was going to be as fast as a T-MAXX with a 24.7 engine in it :confused: LOL That doesn't even make sense! But it does do every thing else better.:cool:

[morfracerX]

Originally posted by RCRACER2471
Ae is not known for bashing! What do you call the Nitro TC3 and the RC10GT. Both are very competitive in their own classes. The TC3 is the best touring car out there right now and your calling it a bashing car? I dont think so.......




wow that came out all wrong but had you not been in such a rush to flame you might have seen that.

what i was trying to say was that when i first read of an AE MT, they being the race based cvompany that they are i just knew their MT would be a track aimed monster. after finding out that it was more of a basher truck i knew i was right when i went with my whatever dom this is i am on now.

[Maxxcrazy]

Sure, the MGT was a breakthrough last year. But this is a different year, the Savage is stiff competition

[GILLAGAN]

It seems to me the more they design a monster truck for racing the more buggy like they become. I'm forty or so miles from a race track and i am very happy with my MGT but I also have a buggy if I wanted to race. I can see where it's fun to race monster trucks with my friends but I like it a lot better when they still act and look like monster trucks.

[RCRACER2471]

Originally posted by morfracerX
wow that came out all wrong but had you not been in such a rush to flame you might have seen that.

what i was trying to say was that when i first read of an AE MT, they being the race based cvompany that they are i just knew their MT would be a track aimed monster. after finding out that it was more of a basher truck i knew i was right when i went with my whatever dom this is i am on now.


My bad...I mis read the post. Sorry about that....I guess im just used to people making stupid comments about how a car or brand is so crappy and dont own one. You were right.....:)

[Freedom]

I agree with Gil.

[Racer Rob]

Myself, when I look for a monster truck I could care less how it runs on the track. Thats what my 1/8th scale buggy is for. I care about suspension and ground clearance for off-roading. I care about reverse so I don't always have to go get it. I want a truck I can run anywhere and have a smile on my face the whole time I am running it. Speed, who cares. I gear them down so I can crawl over some obsticles. I don't go out to jump over everything, I want to run over everything :D

I am still waiting for our shop to get in some MGT's. I think that truck with some Jumbo Swampers will be sweet. ;)

[Techspert]

I don't understand why most Monster Truck buyers are so gEEked with the thought of a Monster truck being race capable. I live in Georgia and have seen many MaNy races with so-called racing Monster trucks, (heavily modded T-Maxx's, Savages, etc...) The races always start with at least 6 Monster trucks and by then end of the race, there are usally no more than 2! They break like crazy!!! They are not well balanced so they do not jump well and it bores most people to see the racers spending more time tweaking and repairing damages rather than racing.

If you want to race, get an 1/8th scale buggy...

[muswagon]

thats half the fun about racing monster trucks, keeping them on the track.

[RCRACER2471]

Originally posted by muswagon
thats half the fun about racing monster trucks, keeping them on the track.

and spending the big $$$$$$:D

[bullethead]

dirt oval racin with my p10m against a buch of rc10's
AND WINNING!!!!!!!!!!!!



BULLETHEAD

[rampbrian]

I believe they are selling rather nicely, I have the thunder tiger engine in my schumacher nitro fusion, also made by the same = tt. it runs rather nicely, and I feel it is verry powerful for a "sport" engine and holds a tune nicely.

I believe the price is rather high, but the extra nice features this truck has are the trade off for that, as for this truck being a maxx copy, no, I havent seen a chassi like the one on mgt ever, have you?

I personaly like it, I am wating till i get ritch to get one tho, im struggling with bills right now, ha haha, its not funny tho, ha ha haaha, we will laugh any way,

I wonder if cen genisis is gona be bigger than monster gt?

[rkilling1]

Originally posted by Bansheeman
the Savage does NOT hit 40, that is a LIE

the 40 MPH spec is using the 18 tooth CB. i hit 35 MPH using the 15 tooth CB, so i am assuming with the 18 tooth CB is will hit 40. so that is not a "LIE"!