Street Force Forum

[2 speed nitro]

hey guys, just wondering what happened to the duratrax street force gp forum? it like dissapeered yesterdaii...lol

[microrcdude]

it's still here.

[2 speed nitro]

i dun see it! grrrr.***....dis sux....mah a link to the forum for me please...thanx

[2 speed nitro]

any1 else have this problem?

[Brodie Sinn]

I dont see it either bro. :confused:

[djfinch]

I cant see it either.

[djfinch]

Still not seeing it...

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ADMIN PLEASE LOOK

[2 speed nitro]

yeah sum1 please fix dis....

[djfinch]

I hit that report to moderator thing so someone will have too look at it, I dont care that it says only to use for rude stuff, it has been days with no change.

[2 speed nitro]

ok this is getting annoying...it's been down for like a week now...and i got stuff to post on there....i got some new parts, and questions and i wanna post...lol....come on guys....help us out herre...

[megaman]

the same thing happened to the thunderquake forum. so what i say you do is post your questions/comments here, and make this the NEW street force thread, and evenually the mods will make this thread the new one and move it to duratrax. at least it seems like a good idea to me=\

[2 speed nitro]

so i'll start.....i got an ofna tuned pipe and header yesterday at mah lhs shop for my car.....i think where the gains are, are in the header, cuz stock header the was a lot more restriction....i also picked up some yokomo foam tires with the rims....i got 30mm for the rear and 26 for the front....herre are pix...

[2 speed nitro]

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[2 speed nitro]

herre

[djfinch]

2 speed what shocks are you using?

[2 speed nitro]

powerline...they are nice, but expensive! payed 32.00 for em....

am i able to use a starter box on my sotck flywheel?

[2 speed nitro]

just ordered the front bulkhead head.....cvd's, and the servo saver arm set....i should get those parts in on frday....thats all i need for my car to be running again....

on my next order imma get ball ends, a better air filter, 43 tooth spur gear and 47 tooth spur gear to give me maximum top end....

[djfinch]

Originally posted by 2 speed nitro
powerline...they are nice, but expensive! payed 32.00 for em....


They look sweet. I'm still using the stock units, but I rebuilt them with AE 80 wt oil instead of the watery crap they came with, they actually damp now!

Did you notice an improvement?

[2 speed nitro]

last time i ran my car it was completely stock, so all the stuff i have on it, i haven't tested it.....they are shorter then stock, and dampen a lot better...they also drop the ride height....

[2 speed nitro]

do you have any mods?

herre is a list of mine:
]-Duratrax foam bumper
]-Duratrax carbon graphite radio tray
]-Duratrax carbon graphite front shock tower
]-Duratrax carbon graphite rear shock tower
]-Duratrax 2mm rear sway bar
]-Duratrax captured ball ends
]-Yokomo 30mm foam rear tires
]-Yokomo 26mm foam front tires
]-Ofna tuned pipe and header
]-Hpi rs4 rear A arms (longer)
]-Hpi black small pullies (3)
]-Powerline rear shocks
]-Custom drilled lightweight flywheel
]-Custom drilled lightweight clutch
]-Custom drilled part beind flywheel

[djfinch]

me, no, I've only had the car two weeks, I got new slick tires on the way and 80wt fluid in the dampners. I changed the shock mounting points to get a lower ride height. Other than that, I just have a skyline body from hpi I painted and trimmed, but that dosent count as a mod.

[2 speed nitro]

cool....got pix of the body?.....where can i get 80 wt oil from??

[djfinch]

I got mine from a LHS.
I'll put up pics once I have some pics. The front end on mine is in peices...crash damage. Front bulkheads, shock bushing, wheels and tires should get here tomorrow. (it was a ugly crash...tire shredded and sent the car front right wheel first into a bulldozer....dozer won...)

[2 speed nitro]

damn that sux bro....i also crashed mine like 2 years ago...afta like my second run...hit a piece of 2 x 4 :-(.....but soon it will be a lot better of a car, and hopefully that won't happen again....maybe i should learn to run it in da day time lol...

[djfinch]

eh, night's ok. Cant be worse than a kid I saw at a local dirt oval. He had a sfgp and was running it around the dirt oval and doing jumps. He was even on road slicks. Cracked me up to see his bottom chassis all the annodizing was scraped off the rear and the bumper mount was broken off. Every time he'd land the body would fly off.

Damn UPS. Now my stuff wont get here until tomorrow! grrrrrr.

[2 speed nitro]

some people are just simply dumb...if you gonna race on a dirt coarse get a truck! or a rally car....damn it sux that your parts onli come in tomorrow but consider yourself lucky...i have to wait till friday...:-(...what mods you have planned for your sfgp?

wheres all the other people from the street force forum?

[EvaderRacer76]

my neighbor (10-yr. old) just got a sfgp for x-mas. they took it out yesterday and crashed it into a parking block, haha. surprisingly enough, it wasn't the 10yr. olds fault, it was his 16-yr. old bro. fault. kid started the engine and didn't turn on the electrics....long story short, car shot off, got up to about 30 mph before crashing into a parking block and rolling over, without the body on...

luckily only plastic crap broke, so its all under warranty.

btw, he broke a body post, bumper thingi, and camber link thing thats attached to the shock tower. darn kids...

[hOndafienD]

haha damn that sux....

[djfinch]

OUch! Handset, then car!

I'm planning on getting the graphite tower for the oooh factor, maybe the radio tray, but I doubt that. getting a sway bar for the front (I like overstreer. Driftin's racin' So I got the shocks as verticle as possible, and high as it goes), along with the bumper, the cdv's, belt tensioner, t-maxx clutch, most likely the one speed conversion (I know some people who race around me, and they use really really tight tracks with almost no straight aways so second gear is mostly dead weight rotating in the drive line...might as well take it off, planning on doing that and the cluth when the stock crap one melts to nothing, which is pretty soon after break in from what I read in the old forum UNTIL THEY LOST IT!)

[2 speed nitro]

yeah within the four times i ran my car, i burnt 2 clutches....now im getting a new 1....dunno what yet....also still debating on wether or not to put a lock differntial in the rear....supposibly once i learn how to drive with it, i would have better track times....but it's good to see that some1 is trying something differnt...i like the whole one speed conversion idea, but im more into the top speed so im actually gettin the longest spurs they make, i already hove the biggest clutchbell gears....and with my new tuned pipe and header, and all that weight i saved, i should be able to get it up to 60.....

[djfinch]

60! damn....got bigger nutz than me man. I get scared about the time the car shifts...I'm desperately afraid of having a high speed thwak into somehting harder than the car...

I'm also thinking of setting the car up for drifting fun. I mean full out tire shredding drift fun. I imagine its one thing the SFGP would do really well. I need to firm up the real alot more, probabbly get some really stiff springs for the back ( like reds) and run the soft silvers up front. I've already got the car play drifting back and forth but it gets unstable fast.


By the way is there a way to stiffen up the diffs on this car?

[2 speed nitro]

yeah i like speed lol....i like your idea too, but i don't wanna waiste money on tires lolz....hopefully you can make some videos and take pix!....umm you can put thicker gear oil or w/e in the differntials....or maybe try to tighten them more...

[djfinch]

I'm probably going to try that first, but if it comes to it I'll just use jb weld as diff oil...that'll make it REAL stiff....heheh

[hOndafienD]

yeah thats a good idea....

yesterdayy i threw on the solid rear differntial and damn i like how it feels lolz....i think that with enough power, with that kinda setup it can pull wheelies lolz...but lets just see how it runs....still waiting on my parts....gotta wait till friday :-(

[djfinch]

that sucks.how did you lock the diff?

Yeah I got mine alive again and tried a more drift friendly setup...but managed to break it in the process. No biggie, just a shock bushing retainer broke. Good thing I have a pile of them in a baggie. gotta refoam and re glue two tires. The beads broke loose drifting in a right slide and caused the car to traction roll all of a sudden (that how I broke the other part...)

[Saboteur]

2 speed- Nice ride. Yeah the stock SFGP manifold has a tiny opening which does restrict power. I ported the stock manifold that came with my NEO and I did notice a power increase. Just used a dremel and coned shaped bit to widen the opening to match up with that of the engine's exhaust port, or atleast the gasket. Did those foams fit without using spacers?

[2 speed nitro]

i locked the differntial by taking out the balls....than put everything back together and it's solid!.....sux that it broke again, good news tho, that it's simple to fix...

[2 speed nitro]

Originally posted by Saboteur
2 speed- Nice ride. Yeah the stock SFGP manifold has a tiny opening which does restrict power. I ported the stock manifold that came with my NEO and I did notice a power increase. Just used a dremel and coned shaped bit to widen the opening to match up with that of the engine's exhaust port, or atleast the gasket. Did those foams fit without using spacers?

thanx....still wanna spend like $200.00 on mods and then by the novarossi .15 engine that gives me 1.8 horses....this sfpg gonna haul ass....just wanna make sure it could handle so much power 1st...i didn't try the foam w/o the spacers, but i think that you might be able to pull it off, but it will be offly close.....i'll try to get some pix either later on today, or wen i wake up in da mornin...

[2 speed nitro]

herre it is with the spacer....

[2 speed nitro]

w/o spacer....

[2 speed nitro]

herre is a shot of both wheels....left side has no spacer and right side does...you can really tell the difference on the upper part, where the arms connect..hope this helps...clearance seems to be enough...i misht even go as wide as 32mm....we'll see

[2 speed nitro]

how much does a dremel go for and where can i get one? thanx...

[djfinch]

I use a minimite dremel for all my needs. it was 24 from wal-mart, pretty much gets its done. just charging can be annoying, and it only gets up to 15,000 rpm

[2 speed nitro]

i'll prob end up bying one from walmart then...what section is it in? i don't really shop there...also where you live?

[2 speed nitro]

i was bored so i sand papered the top of my heat sink....gives it a nice look....herre are the pix...the top of it was all scratched up from when i flipped it anyways...

[2 speed nitro]

lass one...you guys should try and do custom stuff....make your sfgp look different from every1 elses...

[2 speed nitro]

dammit herre are the pix...my computer is being gay...sorry lol

[2 speed nitro]

and the last one..

[2 speed nitro]

in the picture it looks like some of the lower fins are also silver, but it's just the top one....really like how it came out....tell me what you guys think...

[djfinch]

thats neat. I like how you work hard on your car cause you love it, even in the face of most of the rc community who always seem to knock on the sfgp.

yeah I did my first real live mod tonight (not counting the wheels and tires and shock oil) I added, drum roll please, a fuel filter! *doves fly from the background, fireworks go off* Seriously though, it looks nice (anodized purple to match the rest of the alum.) and makes me feel alittle better about my engine.

Next up, foam bumper, moving the front body posts off the shock tower and down to the bumper (to give the model a more realistic look like real hood pins)

I'll get pics of the wheels, fuel fliter, and hopefully the mounted body up tomorrow or saturday (no digicam, just trusty old 35mm, but luckily I work in a photo lab right now)

Oh yeah, and I'm in Northern Va, USA

[2 speed nitro]

yeh i love my street force gp and i think that it's just as good of any other car out there...

congrats on your modding! lolz...get pix asap! will love to see how it's coming out...im prob getting in some parts tommorrow...i'll keep you updated...

[Saboteur]

Hey 2speed, what mods have you done besides using a new tuned pipe to get upto 60mph? Slap in a .12cvr or a Fantom for some real speed. My M16 can get me upto there but I still would like something else. Not sure how I'll spend my $$...either on a new engine, or just get a new exhaust system, spare rims and other things. Still thinking bout that MT12 in my LHS for $174.99. I have like $230 now. Hoping to get a discount on it and get a THS exhaust system together. All that leaves is the starter box. :)

[2 speed nitro]

i just got the tuned pipe and header....i also drilled 8 holes in the stock flywheel...also im getting the longer spur gears....the 43 and 47....i will the longest gear setup....so i might even be at 60+...i plan to also remove the shim between the heat sink and the block to raise compression...i should be at 60+ with all that....and i plan to get a 1.8 horsepower motor by summer...

[djfinch]

just go on rc car action's website and use their speed calculator to figure out your absolute fastest possible top speed

You'll need your engine max RPM the tire diameter and the final drive ratio (hardish to calculate. You need to take all the gears into acccount including all the diffs.)

[hOndafienD]

ehhh...thats too much work....plus i dunno what our engines max rpm is...

[djfinch]

here's those pictures I keep talking about.

First the body on:
I broke a body post and the bumper recently in a get together with a ld3 (kicked his ass in the race though!) so thats the scratches and the reason it sits low.

[djfinch]

Engine with the fuel filter installed:

Gotta love the nitro exaust / grime all over the wheel!!!

[djfinch]

just the body. You can really see the damage to the front here. Its okay though, I made this as a basher body and all that is is something to remember my first kill by!

Even if you dont like the color and decals, you gotta admire the cutting on that big ass GTR on the hood.

[hOndafienD]

nice pix!...finally sum1 elses street force!....liking the foamies...how much better does it handle with those the the stock rubber ones?i haven't ran my car with the new foams yet...are those 30mm in the rear or 26?

hope your car will me having a full list of mods soon :-D

[hOndafienD]

also congrats on your kill!....my lhs wants me to get the ld3...was it a single speed or a 2 speed?...im glad to see that our car beat that :-D.....if yours killed it, mine will take a dump on it lolz...also was his stock like yours?

[djfinch]

It was a single, and the motor seemed really wheezy the whole time. I out cornered, and blew his ass away on the back straight. He did out accelerate me but start to run outta steam fairly early, However his motor sounded way too lean and really lacked any top end punch.

The tires are 26mm (stock width) and they are the Duratrax rubber slicks. They are a VAST improvement over the stock meats. Plenty of traction for bashing and play racing, although they get kinda squirrely at speed. If I wanted to race a little more seriously than just racing people I bump into in parking lots, I'm going to get foams or much nicer slicks, ptobably pre glued as well since I had my glue job come loose once and roll me.

[2 speed nitro]

yeah i think you'd deff be better off with some preglued foam tires...

any1 have any ideas of what custom stuff i could do? thanx lol

[Nsxshogun]

The driver in the ld3 must have suxxed cause im sure my ld3 will out corner yours. But its all about the skill not really the car.

[2 speed nitro]

yeah he might of, or the cars might just be both competitive...the sfgp has a lot of potential in it...it can handle just as good as any tother car out there once the wobble and slop is out of the from suspension....my car has no wobble at all, and when i got it, it was terrible but captured ball ends fixed that....also this car is light..weighs in onli at 3.1 pounds...thats prob the lightest 1/10 scale car out there...with a big motor, and proper modding this car is competitive, and i will prove this to people...:-)

[djfinch]

yeah, once the slop is all taken up, it can be a very nice car. But it will never get any respect since its a duratrax. The only big thing the car has going against it is the somewhat high c of g, mostly caused by the height of the gas tank.

I plan on milling out a slot in the chassis to accept the lower fuel take up, and lower the tank a good 1/2 inch, once my warranty is all gone. ( I know, I know "a rock could peirce the tank!" yeah well...then I can throw a oil slick like james bond!)

Maybe your LD3 could out handle my SFGP. I dont know. Have you ever tried a SFGP? I do know I was carrying a good bit more speed than the ofna, and it could be the cars are competitive, or it could be my style. I use a lot of rear wheel steering and brake very late to induce oversteer. I had him by the third turn and never looked back for the rest of the 3 laps.

I dont doubt the LD3 is a superior machine, all I say is I dont think the SFGP is a bad as you think. If you get a chance to try a well cared for and set up SFGP give it a try. You'll be surprised.

I imagine the SFGP gets its bad rap because it is mostly driven by extreme newbies who set them up poorly and never try to / cant get it right or have zero mechanical skill or experience.

[2 speed nitro]

yeah that gas tank is a little silly...i'd actually like to install a different one..any1 know of any that will fit?....i think that there are a few sfgp's out there that are pretty impressive, and actually make people think twice bout this car, but like you sed it's a duratrax, and it will never get respect no matter how good we've made em...:-(....i still love it tho...:-D

[djfinch]

yeah I love the little car. I've gotten people to let me run their TC3's, HPI's, and even a serpent (NICE!!!) but I still love the SFGP. It just gets it done for me, for way less money than the other cars (esp. the serpent).

Now, when/ if I race, I want a Corally Assassin Shapeshifter electric...all that carbon is just sexy

[Nsxshogun]

I have only drove a street force once and that was a long time ago. It was fast as hell on the straight but even with foams I couldn't handel it in the infieild. Taht may be because I don't think it was setup rite.

[2 speed nitro]

Originally posted by Nsxshogun
I have only drove a street force once and that was a long time ago. It was fast as hell on the straight but even with foams I couldn't handel it in the infieild. Taht may be because I don't think it was setup rite.

yeah i mean a lot of cars are good, even the cheaper ones, as long as the are done right, and even setup right...i respect anything thats fast....but i respect cars that get no respect, and dey teach people a thing or two...

[djfinch]

yeah it probably was set up wrong. One thing people seem to get wrong is the SFGP has to be set so it is LOW. Most cars only give you a choice between low and lower. The rear suspension on the SFGP will get off road buggy high (I'm not kidding) and comes from the factory set that way, you have to do some serious suspension tinkering to get the car to be right.

[Nsxshogun]

Yea I don't think mine will go that high but it will go so low it's scrapin the ground. As with probally any car you will have to get so toe in to make it grip. I was practincin at the track erlier and came into a crash with a MTX-3. Hit the boards to hard and engine shifted on the mounts and stripped some gears. AGIAN WITH THE SAME CAr... Those gears cost 10 buxxs a piese.

[djfinch]

and there is the one big drawback to the sfgp, no rear toe adjustability.

[2 speed nitro]

thats why my sfgp got an advantage...with the cf shock tower and the hpi rear A arms i get more of an horizontal shock placement....:-D and also get a lower ride height...you can see in these arms (these are the hpi's which are also longer, which gives the car a wider stance....) you see the two holes to place the spring....i placed it in the hole closest to the wheels....which gives it the lowest stance possible....

[2 speed nitro]

ok i can't post the pic for some reason...

[2 speed nitro]

me and my friend are working on a design for the chasis...we are design of the hop up one and cutting even more from areas that it's not needed....we are also sandpapering it so we can take out the purple...im doing this on my spare chasis....i'll try to get pix, if my comp ever lets me...this will be a superlightweight chasis.....hopefully it won't twist and **** lol...if it does, i got the one thats on the car right now still...

[djfinch]

be careful making it too light, you want some weight to hold traction in turns! But sounds cool to me. I definatly think it could loose some material behind the engine help distrbute the weight to all four corners better.

[2 speed nitro]

yeah, if it doesn't perform well, i got the other stock chasis lolz....herre is the pic of the sandpapered chasis....and the design it's gonna be (black lines it the cutout)

[2 speed nitro]

sorry double post...tell me what yall think...

[Saboteur]

Truthfully when you look at it, those "higher priced" cars, will cost less in the long run to make a SFGP handle like them. They are a little heavier, but built with sturdier parts and equipped with a slime shaped 3mm chassis. Completely ready to hit the track. Tower has a nice silver 3mm chassis for the SFGP. Get rid of some flex. I'd fit the SFGP with some optional parts but dont have the money now. Gonna start saving for a real car. Anyway I got an MT12 and THS exhaust system yesterday for my other nitro sedan and other parts. Grand total was $165 believe it not. hehehe. If I have more time, since we are starting school soon, I'll rebuild the SF and give it a good cleaning. Lots of parts needs to be freed up from some gunk.

BTW, to get rid of some of the CG, lower the SF to the ground. Get a good 6 or 5mm of ground clearance. Also get lower engine mounts, and a new lower fuel tank. The SFGPs tank is high kinda like the HPI's. With some milling in the chassid and a new lower tank that gets rid of some of the CG. Get HPI wheels or foams(whatever your running) with offsets and spacers to make the ride a full 200mm. Handles better than the stock 190mm. Ditch the dogbones for some universals. Lightly lube all bearings and moving parts. Dont want too much grease otherwise that attracts tons of debris and you'll end up with a big ball of greasy gunk. I'll think of more stuff later.

[2 speed nitro]

yeh imma get the 3.25mm chassis when i got some money, now i rather spend my money on other parts......if any1 is selling a used one or suntin....i'd buy it...

[2 speed nitro]

you got a part # for the tank and engine mounts?...i'll consider anything for the benifit of my sfgp...

BTW my car is exactly 202mm wide...i got 30mm rims with foam tires in the rear, plus the added spacers, and hpi A arms, which are longer then the stock duratrax arms...trust me...i try everything i can...lolz

[2 speed nitro]

herre is a link to all my pix...i think imma juss do this, since my computer, doesn't seem to want me to post pix herre...

my sfgp (http://albums.photo.epson.com/j/AlbumList?u=4174795)

[djfinch]

ok, doofing around trying to diagnose a sidways slide I get under hard acceleration (rear diff is letting the right tire break loose WAY early so the car is jigging right...)

so I pulled the tranny to mid diff belt and went for a spin.

holy crap.

That was tons of fun. first off my turning circle tighened up a bunch. cram the wheels to full lock and just give it alittle gas and the car will cut a nasty tight circle, and I dont mean spinning, I'm talking about hugging a manhole cover with good traction (on a wet road no less...yeah I was in the street...eat me ;)). You gotta have a tight diff though (or a locked one *cough* 2 speed *cough*) cause it will break loose like right now if its loose, which mine is. I'm pretty sure I'ma remove the front diff, the mid diff, front dogbones and lock the rear and go for a posi RWD car. If I do that I can do some really silly stuff like move the gas tank to a center chassis mount and move the reciver to the center of the lower deck and lower all the weight..

plus cutting donughts is kinda fun too :D

[2 speed nitro]

yeah that would be serious weight reduction...i was thinkin bout doin that...but how is the handeling, cornering, and braking, under race conditions....do the rear tires spin? if they don't im thinkin bout doin what you listed...and move the gas tank to the center of the car like you sed for better weight distribution and so on...nice experiment!

also i hate how the drive belt is in the middle anyways...it holds us back from doing so many things with the car...

[djfinch]

OK. I just rebuilt the car. The rear diff is locked up by removing the balls (neutered!). The front diff, front belt, front dogbones, the axle the front drive link was on, the pullyes for the front drive link, and the third belt are gone. the car had definatly lost some grams with all that. The front steering and suspension action are very smooth and should provide excellent control.

I got rid of all the front slop while I was at it, so now the front is nice and tight. I used a couple rubber spacers from the frint diff and used them to take out the slop from the dogbones in the rear. The rear dogbones would wiggle back and forth with no resistance and allow the rear wheels to wiggle and make the car squirm. With an extra little rubber oring in the diff out drives the wiggle is gone, without making anything too tight. I would suggest thos for any SFGP if your dogbones wiggle left and right.

I will get a test run tomorrow in tomorrow, here is what I expect from my short RWD run I got tonight on wet roads.

Before locking the diff, I did serious wheel spin problems. The unlocked diff (and it was loose too, I could easily spin one side while holding everything else still with little effort.) would allow one wheel to break loose and then all the power would go to that wheel. When I was very ginger on the throttle and didnt let it breakloose, the car was great. Steering action in my opinion was WONDERFUL. With no power to the front wheels all the traction available went to turning the car. The car went from a front wheel pushing, numb feel, slow turner to snapping right in and holding turns exceptionaly well. My favorite part was the cars habits when you enter a turn too fast. instead of understeering and sliding to the out side of the turn, you could very easily make the car over steer and tighen the turn by sliding it, rally/drift style. Need to turn tighter, dial in more oversteer, apply more throttle, turn gets tighter.

The only part that will take some getting used too is the rear wheel braking. That can be touchy...but again it was wet.

I'll let you know a more tomorrow after I get a chance to try out the car with the posi rear and lighter weight in the morning or afternoon once it dries out some.

[Saboteur]

Centering the fuel tank or atleast bring it in closer to the chassis is good. I'd keep the car a 4wd instead of rwd. It will handle a lot better as well as being easier to drive, especially if you have a powerful engine in it. Go for lighter parts if you want to reduce weight.

[2 speed nitro]

Originally posted by djfinch
OK. I just rebuilt the car. The rear diff is locked up by removing the balls (neutered!). The front diff, front belt, front dogbones, the axle the front drive link was on, the pullyes for the front drive link, and the third belt are gone. the car had definatly lost some grams with all that. The front steering and suspension action are very smooth and should provide excellent control.

I got rid of all the front slop while I was at it, so now the front is nice and tight. I used a couple rubber spacers from the frint diff and used them to take out the slop from the dogbones in the rear. The rear dogbones would wiggle back and forth with no resistance and allow the rear wheels to wiggle and make the car squirm. With an extra little rubber oring in the diff out drives the wiggle is gone, without making anything too tight. I would suggest thos for any SFGP if your dogbones wiggle left and right.

I will get a test run tomorrow in tomorrow, here is what I expect from my short RWD run I got tonight on wet roads.

Before locking the diff, I did serious wheel spin problems. The unlocked diff (and it was loose too, I could easily spin one side while holding everything else still with little effort.) would allow one wheel to break loose and then all the power would go to that wheel. When I was very ginger on the throttle and didnt let it breakloose, the car was great. Steering action in my opinion was WONDERFUL. With no power to the front wheels all the traction available went to turning the car. The car went from a front wheel pushing, numb feel, slow turner to snapping right in and holding turns exceptionaly well. My favorite part was the cars habits when you enter a turn too fast. instead of understeering and sliding to the out side of the turn, you could very easily make the car over steer and tighen the turn by sliding it, rally/drift style. Need to turn tighter, dial in more oversteer, apply more throttle, turn gets tighter.

The only part that will take some getting used too is the rear wheel braking. That can be touchy...but again it was wet.

I'll let you know a more tomorrow after I get a chance to try out the car with the posi rear and lighter weight in the morning or afternoon once it dries out some.

glad to see it turned out pretty good....hopefully we will hear even better results 2morrow...and it won't have any wheelspin...if it does, try switching over to 30mm rear tires, or even 32mm...make sure they foam...and you should have no problem with traction...im in the process of the conversion myself, since my girlfriend woke me up at 12:00 cuz she wasn't tired, now shes off to bed, and im wide awake! :mad: lolz...

[djfinch]

Originally posted by Saboteur
Centering the fuel tank or atleast bring it in closer to the chassis is good. I'd keep the car a 4wd instead of rwd. It will handle a lot better as well as being easier to drive, especially if you have a powerful engine in it. Go for lighter parts if you want to reduce weight.

Handle better as 4WD...maybe, I'm betting just different. if 4wd were always better all high end proformance cars and road racers would be 4WD. Besides, I'm just looking to have fun. Not serious racing.

Easier, no argument with you there:D

2 speed, yeah I am definatly considering some 30-32 mm foamies. I would be willing to bet the car could wheelie with meats like that. If it does, get pics! If I beat you to it, I'll put em up.

[2 speed nitro]

lol i believe that wheelies are possible too....but i don't want wheelies....i want enough so they don't spin and **** coming out of turns...well i did the whole conversion...i was going to take a pic of all the parts i removed, byt mah diqi died....gotta charge it for 2morrow...i took out the front differntial, 2 idler pullies, middle shaft, 2 dogbones, 2 small bearings, 2 big bearings, a pin, and the side belt, and front belt....some serious weight reduction lolz...can't sleep and i gotta be up at 6 in da mornin! got less then four hours of sleep lolz...

[djfinch]

hahaha. yeah get to bed man. You'll be amazed at the turning circle. And the freer revving.

One thing that it will definatly do for us...higher top speed and faster acceleration.

Much more engine power is going to be getting to the ground and not lost in the inevitable mechanical inefficiencies of the system.

[2 speed nitro]

yeah we will deff get more top speed and a lot better accelaration....do i hear 65+? i think so...well at least mines....with mah tuned pipe and header, the massive weight reduction once i get mah custom chasis doen and everything...chasis prob. isn't gonna be able to habdle that speed....i just but the optional one lolz...yeah im up now...slept 2 hours....yippee! lolz...i talk to you after school....go and test it out! and let us kno!

[djfinch]

I will, but its raining in NoVA at the moment, once it clears, I'm there

[2 speed nitro]

finally got my car all put together...still need the front shocks tho...i have the rear shocks in the front and ride hight is wayyy too hi, and i deff need thicker oil, cuz the shocks barely dampen...also got pix of the 2wd conversion...

[2 speed nitro]

front shot of rear shocks :rolleyes: and missing dogbones, and differential...

[2 speed nitro]

side view...side belt missing...2 idler pullies, and middle shaft...serious weight reduction...that middle shaft is heavy..

[2 speed nitro]

yeah as you can see i needa fix mah camber and ****...lolz....look at the positive camber on that right front wheel lolz...sall good...im prob onli gonna run it this weekend...also i have fuel from 2 years ago...should i juss get new 1?

[djfinch]

nice. all the graphite looks classy. yeah you need new fuel prob...I think the stuff goes kaput in a year after it's been opened.

[2 speed nitro]

so im guessing you didn't get to drive the car...dammit...i guess i might be able to run mines by this weekend...after i get the new fuel and everything....

[2 speed nitro]

herre is a pic of all the parts i took out to make the rwd setup...today i put an order out for 2 sets of ball ends (to eliminate the rest of the slop), 43 and 47 spur gears (more top end), lightweight clutchbell, and hpi carbon graphite rear A arms...

[Saboteur]

Looking good.

DJfinch- No prob man. Didnt know you were bashing. I've done 2wd projects in my sedans(elec and nitro) before. Pretty fun. Still I've seen nitro 4wd sedans do donuts even with foams. :) Reason being is that they are equipped with a one way diff. One way diffs do help in acceleration out of corners, provided higher cornering speed. If you hold the car off the ground and accelerate all four wheels spin, however when you hit the brakes, the rear wheel stop while the front spin continously. When you have a one way on your car you will only be left with braking in the rear, so its good to watch your speed in the turns.

[2 speed nitro]

still even know with a rwd setup we only have rear wheel braking so we have to watch it.....i think this is a good ptoject, and that we will get good results...i should run by sat-sun. what shocks should i get for the front? i need short ones to drop ride height...

[djfinch]

No I havent run the car yet, it rained most of the day and then got dark. Tomorrow though it looks clear, so I should get in a few minutes hopefully, assuming work dosent call.

Yeah that looks to be the same pile I have in my parts bin now :)

I use the stock ones with heavier oil. They more than get it done for me. I have found ride height can be finely adjusted by screwing the retainers on he ends of the shafts in an out a few turns for fine adjustments, position and preload for larger adjustments.

[2 speed nitro]

yeah, with the cf shock tower, ride height is a deff adjustable feature....not as much as other cars, but it works....but those damn shock assemblies are wayy too long to be in the front lolz...but that might work for now...once i get some thicker oil..hopefully we will see results todaii from you...wish you luck :D

[djfinch]

Ok when I ran, it was cold (38 degrees) and the parking lot was a tad dusty, but not bad, just the usual parking lot dirt. I ran till my hands were really hurting from the cold. After all the setup and work and talk and fanfare, RWD...





BLOWS.





If there are any benefits, they are lost on the fact that you cant accelerate worth a crap since anything more than the slighest trigger pressure made my tires break loose and the car swap ends. I did get it up to some high speeds, and it seemed able to go faster, but only by taking a longer than normal run up since I couldnt really gun it to get faster. Handling was no different, infact I couldnt turn near as well cause I could use NO throttle in a turn cause the car would loose traction.

Long story short, I'm putting the drivetrain back together, right now.

[2 speed nitro]

wassup guys? yeah i put my car all back together since you said it sucked...i fine tuned it, now i gotta see how it performs...i got no play in the rear dogbones cuz i put in the little rubber thingies, and i bought cvd's for the front...i can't put them in the rear cuz i have the hpi arms...too cold to run today + it's night time....i'll see if i can get some runs in 2morrow...

[djfinch]

yeah I went to put mine backtogether and noticed my shock tower was broke...dammit. I swear my car just breaks for fun, cause I'm not hitting stuff...

[2 speed nitro]

time to get carbon graphite shock towers! gives your car a nice look....when you gettin new hop ups?

[2 speed nitro]

what air filter do you guys recoment using? they wanted 15 bux for 1 at mah hobby shop...it looked cheap...

[djfinch]

yeah! Its gonna be a week or two before I can upgrade. I got school loans to pay (that degree on the wall is expensive!) and I'm muddling through with a crummy job until my career starts in april.

[2 speed nitro]

holy **** i found aluminum parts! bulkheads, steering knuckles, etc....but the parts are from europe somewhere cuz the price is in euros....it would be great to get some of these parts...

aluminum parts (http://www.netshop.nl/shop/rc/nl/dept_3.html)

[djfinch]

HOLY CRAP they are expensive. Keep in mind a Euro equals about 2 us dollars but damn those would be nice.

[djfinch]

OK, I found the skinny on these parts. The shop is Dutch, if you click the button up top and then click english version, and then click search and then search for street force gp you can get US prices, PLUS, if you arent dutch the proces are 19% off because you dont have to pay their sales tax (and you thought our taxes were steep!) so they might actually be worth it! Shipping will be a bitch though...

[2 speed nitro]

yeah it would be cool if they were sold in the us...but amywho i didn't get to run my car today....doubt that i'll run it this week...it's too f*ckin cold...like 15 degrees outside rite now :(

[microrcdude]

that blue they have looks awsomw

[2 speed nitro]

Originally posted by microrcdude
that blue they have looks awsomw

too bad it doesn't match with the chasis' purple..

[Alpha8A]

hey guys i was just wondering if u knew if they were still going to make parts for the street force eventhough it has been discontinued,:( I hope they still make parts or im gonna have to stock up for the future:p

[djfinch]

Do what....they discontinued the street force?!?!?

[2 speed nitro]

yup they did...sadly :(...hope we can get parts still for it...of not i'll prob end up getting another car :(

alfa:

can you post pics of your street force and a list of mods, id realli appreciate it...

also, what kind of other custom **** can i do to my street force? any ideas? lolz....thanx....im bored i need suntin to do!

[djfinch]

I emailed street force and got this reply:

Hello,

Thank you for your recent e-mail. The Street Force GP is being
replaced by the Street Force 2.

Parts are still available and will be for some time. Warranty coverage
will continue as indicated in your manual.

Hope this answers your questions

Sincerely,
Craig
Product Support

NO AUTORESPONDER


>>> "Donovan Finch" <djfinch@*********.net> 1/8/04 10:34:11 AM >>>
I have heard roumors that the SFGP is being discontinued, is this true?
If
it is will you still honor the stress tech guarntee on parts for this
car?
Also how long will I be able get replacements parts for this car?

Thank You
Donovan




I replied asking how long some time was....still waiting

I'm getting really pissed at Duratrax and about this car. It breaks whenever I look at it and now its going to get dropped...I doubt I'll buy another DT product...

[djfinch]

Hello,

Thank you for your recent e-mail. Typically, parts support will
continue past the dicontinue date of a vehicle for several years.

Thanks for writing!

Sincerely,
Craig
Product Support

NO AUTORESPONDER

.....

Well there we go, we'll still have parts to fix these cars that break every five minutes.

[2 speed nitro]

ohhh dam! it's bein replaced by a street force 2? das was good! can't wait till it comes out...see if you can get the specs and release date...im glad to see that they are at least still gonna make parts for it..

[Alpha8A]

hey 2 speed nitro heres my car (these are so-so pics cuz i lost my old ones) and here the list of mods:
Paris Turbo Ring Pipe
Powerline Hpi RS4 Radio Tray (a little modding needed but the fit is still not perfect)
Powerline RS4 Shocks Front and Back
Duratrax Carbon Fiber Shock Towers on the Front and Back
Duratrax CVD's for the Front (btw do u know if the ones for the RS4 fit)

[Alpha8A]

forgot to mention i also have hpi wheels and rims

oh and 2 speed i was wonderin where did u put the radio receiver on ur car cuz i didnt see it and it looks clean without it

[2 speed nitro]

your ride is looking good brotha...yeah the cvds from the rs4 should fit...the narrow 1's that is, since our car is 190mm stock...do you have any future plans?

[2 speed nitro]

yeah i was bored....so i started fileing out the openings in mah second chasis....i soon got tired, and didn't even finish the 1st one lolz...i got time tho...but it's coming out great! nice big openings = less weight! yeahhhh! lolz....i can post a pic lata if you guys want..,,,dammit 2morrow is onli gonna be 23 degrees! *** man! i wanna run mah damn car, but it's wayyy too cold...mah fingers will fall off lolz...

[hOndafienD]

hey man...hows the car perform with the solid rear differntial? does it punch out more out of the turns? is it harder to control by any way? thanx

[djfinch]

I havent gotten my car back to together yet since I'm waiting on a new shock tower. Also I'm not running solid anymore, I but the balls back in, I just made it very stiff.

So awnser is...I dunno...Sorry

[hOndafienD]

oh.....alright thats cool....you gonna get carbon fiber right? :D...im picking up my parts from the hobby shop today....can't wait to throw all the goodies onto the street force...

[2 speed nitro]

wow, i just got a big surprise, i measered the width of mah car...f/r...and the front is 191.25 mm and the rear is an amazing 204 mm!!! i don't understand tho...i have the 2mm spacers all wayy round and the front stock is supposed to be 190...im supposed to be atleast 194...imma try to fix this somehow..i'll update later...

[mr.fury]

whats up guys...just checkin up with all you streetforce guys....its been awhile since i had a streetforce and spent every dollar i had to fix a part that broke everytime i made a left turn...or maybe touched a wall..."with body on"...lol....just thought i would stop by and see whats going on...and 2-speed nitro: man your just upgradin and upgradin, keep up the good work...

[2 speed nitro]

thanx man....i work hard...im picking up abot 30 bux worth of hop ups 2morrow...and have another list to give my hobby shop...lolz..i should be done with all my hop ups by summer time..then time for a new car..

[djfinch]

Got my parts on the way. shock tower (plastic not graphite...:() bumper, foam bumper pad, a new 4-way wrench (old one broke) and a new glow starter (one that came with the car exploded when it rolled off the trunk of my car.

And I thought paintball was expensive...

Oh hey, quick and free CG lowering mod...there are rubber spacers between the radio deck and the fuel tank...take them out and the fuel tak take up will rest lightly on the chassis instead of hovering 5mm above it. and the radio deck isolates vibes well enough, I ran it for an hour like this before stopping and the fuel didnt get frothy or anything, and the take up isnt rubbing the chassis and looked just like it did when I put it in like that. Give it a shot, every little bit helps ya know...

[2 speed nitro]

just came back from the hobby shop...got my lightweight clutchbell for less rotating mass......it's for a duratrax truck...:D ...i also got the 43 and 47 spur gears, stock it came with the 42 and 46...so i have more top end :D...i got some pix of the clutchbell, imma see if i can post em...im trying to get a whole list of custom parts that will fit, i'll let you guys kno...lightweight chasis is coming out great!

[2 speed nitro]

closer pic...you can see the cut on the top of the clutchbell, theres another1 at the bottom...you can see the clutch threw it :D....can't wait till i can run it!

[2 speed nitro]

herre is a shop of the hpi front brace...it's the silver part right behind the bumper...makes a sturdier assembly...

[2 speed nitro]

closer shot...also got wait for me at the hobby shop the carbon hpi A arms...

djfinch...what fuel filter is that, that you have on your car? any new pix of your car?

[djfinch]

Its a racers edge purple annodized (of course) screen filter. It makes me feel better, but it takes longer to prime it now, since you gotta fill the filter but the tank now can hold a few extra cc's once you fill up the filter, so If I ever really race I could get in a extra lap before pitting...who knows?

nope no new pictures...maybe later on once I get new body and get some upgrades. I'm all stock now except for a foam bumper and fuel filter.

[Speedy Gonzales]

Hey Guys,

Just like the forum, Tower discontinued the nice $200 starters car.

Now I'm not going to know what to recomend for starters.

Arriba.. Arriba.. Andale... Andale........:)

[2 speed nitro]

yeah i kno...it sux that the sfgp is discontinued, but they have a street force 2 coming out...so we'll see how that tunrs out, and hopefully we can upgrade...

[2 speed nitro]

just came bak from outside...all i gotta sayy is damn!

[2 speed nitro]

just came bak from outside...all i gotta sayy is damn! this thing is fast.....i gotta tune it now...it bogs when i full throttle it...and den the clutch melted away lolz...all i gotta sayy that with all my mods, this thing is stupid fast...

[djfinch]

so did the drilled flywheel help the motor to rev freer?

[2 speed nitro]

i wouldn't be able to tell you cuz last tiem i ran the car it was completely stock..and now i got like 15 mods into it..but i can tell you from what i remember the car accelerates a lot faster..

[djfinch]

Hey check it out they moved us. They managed to lose all the helpful info from the old Street Force forum...but its something at least.

[2 speed nitro]

yeah at least we got what we wanted.....but we lost all the usefull information :(.....it's ok, i think we can manage on our own, plus i got a lot of experience with this car, you can ask me anything lol..

[Dirk Jan]

The 43-47 will not give you higher topspeed, only better acceleration. The topspedd will even drop a bit. If you want more speed, you have to install SMALLER spurgears or BIGGER clutch gears!

here's a tip to lower the front of the car with te standard shocks and shocktower (will also work with the graphite one)

Take the piston out your shock (that long screw). There's an eclip attached on above. below there is that round thing, with the holes in it, don't know how you say that in English (American ;) ) when you have removed it, put some rubber o-rings on the piston. use 2 of them. Then put back that round peace and the e-clip. Your shock is shorter now, because of the 2 o rings in it. It will have less travel also, but that's fine.

I have an sfgp also, upgrading it now. I live in the Netherlands where it comes with a Force .12 engine (same as OFNA LD3). I ported the engine and will do some more Dremelwork on the engine.
I have a homemade pipe on it, 1 chamber with special sound and really good lowens and highend. Looks a litte strange though.
My car has Ellegi tires and I ordered a LOLA body for good handling.

[2 speed nitro]

im not installing smaller clutchbell gears...im sliding the motor over and installing the longer gears...it will give me more top end...

imma try to do the shock experiment...it's nice to see sum1 else wit a streetforce...

get some pix bro....i wanna see dat .12!

[Dirk Jan]

Here;s my ride:

http://www.rc-racingcars.com/gallery/fotos/album46/ake.sized.jpg

and the 43-47 will really give you lower topspeed but better acceleration. And I didn't say that

Bigger clutchgears will give you more top end, but when you make the gears on your 2 speed bigger, you will get a Bigger ratio and that means lower topspeed.

47/17 = bigger than 46/ 17, got it?! so your ratio will be bigger and your topspeed will drop.

I'm upgrading my sfgp now. I made it non pullstart. I cut off 3mm of the engine mounts, so the flywheel is low enough to grab the starterbox wheel. It works pretty good.
I also installed another tank, which is lower. The cg of my car is better like this (also with the lower engine)

I plan to Dremel the crankshaft (make the hole bigger) and put on an extra pressureline prom my tank to the pipe, so the acceleration will improve (don't know wheter it works or not)

I will post updated pics soon

[djfinch]

Originally posted by Dirk Jan
Here;s my ride:

http://www.rc-racingcars.com/gallery/fotos/album46/ake.sized.jpg

I'm upgrading my sfgp now. I made it non pullstart. I cut off 3mm of the engine mounts, so the flywheel is low enough to grab the starterbox wheel. It works pretty good.
I also installed another tank, which is lower. The cg of my car is better like this (also with the lower engine)

I plan to Dremel the crankshaft (make the hole bigger) and put on an extra pressureline prom my tank to the pipe, so the acceleration will improve (don't know wheter it works or not)

I will post updated pics soon

Did you cut from the top of the bottom of the mounts?

Be careful changin the shape of the crank hole, you'll be altering the timing of the engine, and will very well decrease compression and lose performance. If you want to hot up the motor, get the most recent RCCA and check out their motor polishing stuff. Changing post sizes alteres timing and may loose you performance.

[2 speed nitro]

Originally posted by Dirk Jan
Here;s my ride:

http://www.rc-racingcars.com/gallery/fotos/album46/ake.sized.jpg

and the 43-47 will really give you lower topspeed but better acceleration. And I didn't say that

Bigger clutchgears will give you more top end, but when you make the gears on your 2 speed bigger, you will get a Bigger ratio and that means lower topspeed.

47/17 = bigger than 46/ 17, got it?! so your ratio will be bigger and your topspeed will drop.

I'm upgrading my sfgp now. I made it non pullstart. I cut off 3mm of the engine mounts, so the flywheel is low enough to grab the starterbox wheel. It works pretty good.
I also installed another tank, which is lower. The cg of my car is better like this (also with the lower engine)

I plan to Dremel the crankshaft (make the hole bigger) and put on an extra pressureline prom my tank to the pipe, so the acceleration will improve (don't know wheter it works or not)

I will post updated pics soon
ahh your right! sorry bout that bro...i re thought it and yeah...so what gear combo could i get more top speed out of? i have 16/19 clutchbell and 42/46 spurs...i think thats the setup for most top end right? dammit! lol...btw your car looks tight! what tank are you using? got a part #? this is something i will deff. have to do..do you know if the hpi non pullstart engine mounts will work with our car? i would cut my stock 1's...but its a lil troublesome..i wanne get rid of the pull start...onli adds weight.. let us know how everything goes...thanx!

[2 speed nitro]

next mods list:

3.25mm chasis
side belt tensioner
cvd set (undecided sitll)
ball ends (2 sets
hpi racing clutch
hpi lowering mounts (if they fit)
lower cg gas tank (if dirk jan gets me the company and part # :D)
HG rear alumium body posts

that should be about 100 bux...and then after that a few more mods and i'll be done with the car..until i have money for a better engine..im thinkin something in the line of a novarossi ns12s5...1.6 hp :D

what yall think? sounds good?

[djfinch]

Sounds great to me. Just dont dink a pebble doing all that spped or the bulkheads will explode ;)

[2 speed nitro]

yeah hopefully it will all hold together...i don't want it falling apart or anything...

[djfinch]

And with all those upgrades and the Novarossi, you should be competitive in club racing, but I imagine you still wont get any respect unfortunatly

[2 speed nitro]

Originally posted by djfinch
And with all those upgrades and the Novarossi, you should be competitive in club racing, but I imagine you still wont get any respect unfortunatly

yeah even if i could outspeed and out handel most cars, which i could prolly do now, it would still be a street force..damn people!

i juss looked at the priced for the engine mount and they go for almost 30 bux! das crazy, imma just make mah own...i want that cg fuel tank tho...

[Saboteur]

I wouldnt jump to a NS12. Even with mods, the SFGP may not be able to take the power of something like that. With that being said, your gonna need to put the side belt tensioner on the SFGP or it will come off. Start off with something like a Fantom or Picco side exhaust engine. Dont assume by buying the fastest engine you will be come competative. The car needs to be first dialed in to the track and you have to work on driving skill. It will take some time before you can really be competative. Not saying anything bad about the car, because with any car, you're gonna have to do some work on it to have it handle on rails at a local track. If you achieve the lowest laptimes, then you can consider yourself the "fast" guy.;)

[Saboteur]

P.S. To really give you an idea of how powerful that Novarossi engine is, the RCCA guys installed it in a MTX-3 and had all the tires scrapping for traction. That engine mades torque on all ends of its powerband. Trust me when I say dont buy something like that. Consider the price for the engine, piston/sleeve set, glowplug, and parts. A simple, yet powerful side exhaust engine is all you need man. I drove my SFGP to victory with the M16 and blasted around a track we made in a parking lot beating other guys who's engines cranked out more power than I did. My engine is about the same as a .12CVR. Currently have the MT12 and I'll surely own all in the area. :cool:

Dirk Jan- Nice ride. I'm gonna get me some of those ellegis one day.

[2 speed nitro]

yeah i'll prob take your advice an get something with maybe like 1.2 horses or something...i doubt it the car would handle so much power, but if it could, it'd throw it in there...when i hd some extra money...that would be in like 10 years lol

what company makes some 32mm foams?

[Saboteur]

Oh yeah, for those who didnt see this is my SF.

http://www.radiocontrolzone.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=138723

[2 speed nitro]

you plan on doing anything to your street force or you gonna leave it as is?

[2 speed nitro]

we have 18 teeth idler pullies...would we increase the # or decrease the # of teeth to get more speed?

[Dirk Jan]

If you want more speed out of your car, you should install bigger ones, like 20 t. but acceleration will be not really good then.

I use 42-46 14-18 setup It give's good acceleration and good topspeed also.

I used a tank of an old car of mine, its from T2M (don't know or this sounds familiar). I don't think the tank can be ordered still. To bad :(
I thinks it's 65 cc, because it's a little lower, but not longer or wider than the standard tank. Try the 65 cc tank from the Tamiya TG10, it will work fine. Yous hould install a tank which you can bolt right on the chassis and not on your radioplate.

My tuned pipe is made from 2 different pipes, the standard pipe and a HPI pipe. It's a one chamber which give the car a good sound and better acceleration (and equal topspeed).
Here in the Netherlands the cars come's already with the belt tensioner.
I lowered the stock engine mounts by cutting of 3 mm of the undersite. I don't use any pullstart now, weight savings :p
By the way: I use a Picco airfilter and the Ellegi tires should be available at your lhs.

here are some pictures, the car is not done yet, so some parts are missing:

http://www.rc-racingcars.com/gallery/fotos/album46/akf.thumb.jpg

the lowered engine, for starterbox use and lower cg:
http://www.rc-racingcars.com/gallery/fotos/album46/akg.thumb.jpg

my aluminium shocks, lowered with some o rings (shocks are from the same T2M car, so I don't think it's available anymore...)
http://www.rc-racingcars.com/gallery/fotos/album46/akh.thumb.jpg

[Dirk Jan]

Here are bigger pics:

http://www.rc-racingcars.com/gallery/fotos/album46/akh.sized.jpg
http://www.rc-racingcars.com/gallery/fotos/album46/akf.sized.jpg
http://www.rc-racingcars.com/gallery/fotos/album46/akg.sized.jpg

I will post pics of it later, when I have the LOLA body. And new Ellegi's are ordered also :p

[djfinch]

Sabatuer, what are those links from the servo saver posts to the hub carriers? I'm guessing you did it to take torsional flew out of the front suspension? What are they, I mean what are their real names so I can get a pair and give it a shot?

[2 speed nitro]

Originally posted by Dirk Jan
Here are bigger pics:

http://www.rc-racingcars.com/gallery/fotos/album46/akh.sized.jpg
http://www.rc-racingcars.com/gallery/fotos/album46/akf.sized.jpg
http://www.rc-racingcars.com/gallery/fotos/album46/akg.sized.jpg

I will post pics of it later, when I have the LOLA body. And new Ellegi's are ordered also :p

your ride is looking tight...i see that you got the aluminum steering knuckles too...what are your plans for the car?

imma see if i can get the tg10 tank...and cut the mounts...

[Saboteur]

Originally posted by djfinch
Sabatuer, what are those links from the servo saver posts to the hub carriers? I'm guessing you did it to take torsional flew out of the front suspension? What are they, I mean what are their real names so I can get a pair and give it a shot?

Those are just links I borrowed from my other nitro sedan. I got the idea from Mr. Fury on the other SFGP forum. Keeps things up front pretty stuff.

[djfinch]

I bet some turnbuckles and ball studs would give you the same effect, plus with adjustable shafts, you would have some caster adjustability, albeit fairly limited, it should be enough to get the steering more consistant. have them pull the hub carriers back, you get better high speed stability, push them forward and you should get faster turn in.

[2 speed nitro]

it would be nice to have some caster adjustability...but that would require wider A arms, so it could slide back and forth...and we could put spacers for more - or + caster...who wants to be the one to try the expirement? :D

[djfinch]

no it would be possible to do it with the stock chassis, there just wouldnt be much. IT would be enough to make sure both wheels were consistant, not enough to really change the car's personality like true adjustability would. I also wish there were a way to get toe adjustability in the rear, I'm working on that. I'm thinking possible using front hub carriers and hubs, and linking up the steering arms to turnbuckles on the chassis and using washers in the carriers to make the hubs real stiff to turn would get you toe in the rear adjustability...I have yet to try it though

[mr.fury]

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[mr.fury]

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[mr.fury]

Hey guys....do to me selling my streetforce and buying a kyosho v-one r i have no idea of making my vision project work for the duratrax streetforce.....this will only work for guys who use a slide carb engine or plan to use one permantly....which is a upgrade for streetforce......See...if you have a streetforce with a slide carb engine and use the slide carb conversion kit...and re- position of the throttle servo.......you will notice that the thottle and brake operation still does NOT work smoothly. Causing you to loose brake power. This idea i have will give the streetforce a new name and look...that will have people like WHOA. If i had a streetforce here i would have done it.....this is easily by RE-positioning the throttle SERVO!. If i get a chance i will find some pics and make a ROUGH draft of the idea i had.it would be easier if i had someones streetforce to convert and show you guys!..lol...

heres a pic of my serpent impulse and kyosho v-one r.....with Custom mazda rx-7 bodies...the first one with bleeding purple was the crash body i got mad on and said F it on which is on the serpent impulse...the one closer to wall is the kyosho v-one r....the best painted body i have so far.

[mr.fury]

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[mr.fury]

k..heres a little rough drawing..."ROUGH DRAFT"..LOL.....the yellow is where the battery will be located...i suggest using a 5 Cell hump pack reachargable battery pack. The red is where the servo should be cut out...and the black is where the servo should mount....see..how it would change direction that the servo mounts....it should mount to where servo horn is closer to reciever..than closer to engine when attempting to persue this project....man i wish i had a streetforce just to work on...i wouldn't buy another..lol.....anyone WANNA SEND ME THERE STREETFORCE TO WORK ON!!!>>>>>I could make sure your in rccaraction mag when i'm done..lol

[2 speed nitro]

that sounds like a good idea...only i'd be scared to try it...i might mess something up, and the i have to buy a whole new cf radio plate..do you have any more great ideas in your head somewhere? lolz...something that takes less of a risk to perform..

[djfinch]

Gee yeah, that would be wonderful but you see to forget that the SFGP has a DRIVETRAIN! Your mounting position puts the bottom of the servo right where the center idler pulley is and where the front belt runs. Also, moving the servo closer to the motor will throw the car balance even further from the centerline to the port side of the car. Also the mounting point would put the throttle linkage too close to the shaft of the servo and probably not give you enough throw most likely, or you would have to mount the arm way out of the horn and have a funky angle on the linkage...I see no benefits to your set-up at all...using the proper servo horn and running the linkages right will provide nice smooth action.

Flame at will

[2 speed nitro]

everyone die or suntin? lolz...im taking an r/c break until summer...but i'll still be in herre for questions...and to anwser them as well....

[djfinch]

Nah just nothing going on. I think my last post made everybody run away.

I've got plans in the works for my car. Thinking about a shorter first gear and a taller second, more low end punch, then when it shifts have higher top speed. also I want the slide valve carb, and graphite towers. I'm still thinking about a way to make RWD work. The bak end just needs more traction. I was thinking higher gears and or wider/bigger around tires, like maybe sprint car wheels and tires, or even 1/8 2wd buggy wheels with road tires on them, something silly like that, but then bodies wouldnt fit...but I dont really care, it would be fun while I had it that way.

Or maybe rally mods, get some pin tires, jack the suspension up, heat bend the front bumper so it has some kick up. go to the local dirt track and tear up. but I dont know if I wanna worry about breaking suspansion parts quite that much.

Also I've been thinking about ways to strengthen the cars's weaker plastic parts like the bulkheads and what not.

Or I've considered breaking out the ol' tourch and welding wire and making a roll cage, full saftey frame, or an f-1 style monoque bell crank suspended frame that accepts the sfgp's hubcarriers and transmission and just make my own crap up and drop the sfgp's chassis. I could make the 3rd belt much longer and center mount the fuel tank, throttle servo,reciver batteries, and arrange the front servo so it can laydown I'm working on plans, I'll post them if I ever get 'em done. This I could make so it still acceps normal bodies but I would definatly make it 200mm wide. This is something that I'm excited about doing one day, so we'll see. I'll probably do it along once I have a 2nd car (probably a 2wd electric off-road buggy, or a 4wd nitro one...dont know yet)

[2 speed nitro]

good luck with your plans, if i could do mods w/o spending money i will, but other then dat, the car is pretty much staying how it is right now....i need money for a real car....i get mah liscense in june, so yeah.....keep us updated, i will still check this daily...did you get your car to run again?

[djfinch]

Yeah the car is all together in pretty much bone stock form.

I'm considering doing the motor porting in last months RCCA, but I'm lazy and stuff :D

[djfinch]

hey I was thinking (dangerous I know) and looking at the front toe adjusters. It looks like that limit the suspension travel mounted under the servo saver...I'm thinking of mounting them on the top of the arms to see if it lets the front suspension move better...

[djfinch]

Ok got off my lazy ass and did the port smoothing and guide port simulator mod from the feb. (I think ) issue of rcca.

NICE

I havent had a chance to run it since the roads here are snow and ice covered at the moment, and it's really cold, but I did start the car up and let it run on my back portch.

It can stay running at a much lower idle now, which is very nice. Maybe it wont eat clutches like it did (I couldnt get the idle low enough to not enguage the clutch a tad, so I had to hold the breaks and let the clutch slip.) and it revs MUCH freer. you know how it is when you hold the car off the ground and blip the throttle, the engine disernably revs up and back down. Well now its like a lightswitch. I mean POW. Nail the throttle and the motor very suddenly spins up.

I didnt get to run it around, but, I put the bumper against a wall and reved the motor a tad. Used to the clutch would just slip and the car would sit, or the motor just wouldnt rev up. Now the tires just break loose. I mean it takes nothing to rip the tires loose. I tried holdning it down and blip the throttle to get the motor to warm up a bit right when it started and the car was extremely hard to hold.

So all in all I am very happy with those mods. Oh and if you are curious, the bottom of the sleeve isnt radiused, just cut at a 45 degree angle, and the boost and transfer ports are just cut straight into the sleeve, with no beveling at all, so the motor can definatly benefit from some massaging! Highly reccommended if your sick of your motor.

[2 speed nitro]

damn! thats whats good!.....love to see that your still working on your street force...you needa start taking befor and after pix of all these mods tho! lolz....so the car is faster overall right? anything for free speed i'll do...what did you use to do the porting? dremel??? let us know how everything turns out, and what other mods you have planned...

[djfinch]

I also opened up the head pipe a and smoothed the edges on that to aid flow. and finnally got to take it out and run it. Oh and I re-locked the rear diff.

The car gets up much faster. very noticeable. Not earth shattering, but a definate improvement. I wasnt able to do any high speed runs and get a feel for the top end, but I definatly think it will be a bit faster overall. I do know it accelerates harder. I mean I had it in second gear doing probably around 30-40 and pinning the throttle at that speed will instantly break the tires loose and make the car take off like a shot. The car starts much easier. all I have to do is put the ignighter on and pull it so the engine flips once and it fires. It used to take two or three pulls to get it. And thats a cold start, very nice indeed. The engine sound had changed. Its a slightly deeper tone and sounds more open, not as muffled, but no louder, which is cool.

I used a dremel, several bits. A diamond grinder, carbide cutter (straight) and a rubberized polisher. I radiused and polished the bottom of the sleeve, beveled and polished the bottom of the boost post. very slightly beveled the transfer ports and cut a guide channel (guide port simulator) in the transfer ports. I used the dremel on 5,000 rpms and it took about two hours. I warn you now its pretty easy to do, but also easy to screw up real bad. You gotta completly take apart that motor and be very careful not to get any crud in the block. if you scrape the inside of the sleeve or nick the piston or anything like that, you'll hose the engine and have to get a new sleve and piston (~30 bux). Also, all your old carb settings will go out the window and you'll need to re baseline the carb and reset all the adjustments.

whatever you do, dont change the shape of the ports or tough the inside of the sleeve in any way. You need serious tools to do that kind of modification and serious experience. Go find the issue of RCCA from last month (red cover, Mammoth MT on the cover) or PM Steve Pond for a link to it or if he can tell you how to get the back issue, it will have everything you need to get some free power.

All in all, I love it.

[T/Perfect STORM]

Hey guys, Whats up with the streetforce, I went to tower to order one for my neph for his B-day and they say it is discontinued. I have had mine for two yeats and love the things, and wanted to pass on that love to my neph. Is there any word on a replacement?

[2 speed nitro]

Originally posted by T/Perfect STORM
Hey guys, Whats up with the streetforce, I went to tower to order one for my neph for his B-day and they say it is discontinued. I have had mine for two yeats and love the things, and wanted to pass on that love to my neph. Is there any word on a replacement?

yeah there actually is a street firce 2 thats supposed to be coming out...no specs or release date yet tho :-(...hey you have any pix of your street force???

djfinch:

glad to see that the projest came out good...you think if i sent you the parts that you could do it for me??? i would pay w/e...lolz thanx!

[djfinch]

2 speed...nah I dont think so, I'm willing to risk pooching my own motor, but I wouldnt risk somebody else's motor! Besides, its not hard, you can do it. If you can take the drive train apart for 2wd you can do this mod. Trust me. I'm sure it will be up on their mag site in a month or so.

Oh yeah and I just finished a new body, I'll get pics up in a couple days.

[Savage Crazy]

Heay guys whats up I am new to the hole on-road scene and just got my street force last week I took the motor apart and polished the crank and made the exhaust port on the (header) larger and had to do all the ajusting and such.. The sound seems a little more deep and (cool)..

But here is my ?? I have a cvec pipe and I took it apart as well but I lost the cutter pin for it and can't figure out how it was setup or which way it is supposed to go please help..

[Shoe0727]

I know this thred is for the nitro street force but i could not find one for the mirco SF. Anyways does anyone know what kind of engine the MSF has?

Thanks

[Azneddie]

I havent played with my SFGP in about 2 years. I basically forgot about everything. Im going to get me a new engine (rossi .12cx). Now i was wonder what ligthened flywheel and racing clutch works with the SFGp?? im mainly focusing on the clutch part. Thanks in advance

[Saboteur]

The Novarossi CX12 comes with a standard crankshaft so finding a flywheel to fit it wont be a problem. Is your SFGP stock? Those HPI/wolfpack vented flywheels work well. I have a tmaxx vented silver flywheel for my NEO which will be swapped into the SFGP when I get a new centax. The HPI racing clutch is pretty cool to get. 2 shoe clutch with the wrap around style spring. Nice upgrade.

[Azneddie]

ok. just ordered my new engine. Im going to get teh HPI lightened flywheel and the HPI racing clutch. what other things should i get for the SFGP? I mean is there anything else that will work with the SFGP besides the upgrades that Duratrax offers?

[rcnitrofan86]

Here's a link to my street force, more better pics will be taken soon. ps: Don't mind barbie, somethin I regret doing lolhere (http://www.radiocontrolzone.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=144077&highlight=street+force)

[2 speed nitro]

Originally posted by Azneddie
ok. just ordered my new engine. Im going to get teh HPI lightened flywheel and the HPI racing clutch. what other things should i get for the SFGP? I mean is there anything else that will work with the SFGP besides the upgrades that Duratrax offers?

dammit i envy you! what engine did you get? i had mah street force for 2 1/2 years now and i still got the setock engine...do you have a tuned pipe and header yet? very nice investment...also get yourself some nice foams....wut else? umm...thinkin...graphite shock towers and radio tray, some nice shocks, possibly powerline...expect to pay 30+ bux a pair...all that combined...you should have no problem layin a smack on anything on dastreet...

[2 speed nitro]

let me know how the flywheel and clutch turn out...possibly my next mods, when i have some money...my car is currently not running cuz i've burned about 3 stock clutches within 5 minutes of running...mah car is already too powerful for that ****!

[rcnitrofan86]

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[Saboteur]

Originally posted by 2 speed nitro
let me know how the flywheel and clutch turn out...possibly my next mods, when i have some money...my car is currently not running cuz i've burned about 3 stock clutches within 5 minutes of running...mah car is already too powerful for that ****!

Even a cheap sport engine can destroy a clutch mainly because something wasnt setup properly or something else. :)

RCnitrofan-Nice ride. Did you run it yet? I was going to get that engine for my ride but I didnt see it in my new LHS. Good thing I got the MT12 for $100 though at the LHS that closed down here. :D

[rcnitrofan86]

Nope not yet, and if you dont know this is the cx .12. I will probably run it in the spring.:D

[Azneddie]

Yeah, thats the engine i got. the cx12. Looks awsome. should get here in a couple days. im also planning on getting the powerline alum. shocks, powerline alum. small pullys, 2 sets of wheels(hpi slicks and x-pattern), tensioner, lightened alum. flywheel and some other stuff i cant think of. Anyone know what lightened clutchbell will work with SFGP?

[Savage Crazy]

What I want to know is how do you tune the cvec pipe I took mine apart and the cotter pin was all rusty so I took it out and now I don't remember where it is suposed to go and any of you guys help me out..

[Azneddie]

Anyone upgrade there brakes??? if so, what you replace it with?? results??

[2 speed nitro]

Originally posted by Azneddie
Yeah, thats the engine i got. the cx12. Looks awsome. should get here in a couple days. im also planning on getting the powerline alum. shocks, powerline alum. small pullys, 2 sets of wheels(hpi slicks and x-pattern), tensioner, lightened alum. flywheel and some other stuff i cant think of. Anyone know what lightened clutchbell will work with SFGP?

i got the clutchbell from some duratrax truck...i'll try to find the part #....also a lot of the heat can escape from it... i have pix of it in previous pages...

[rcnitrofan86]

2 speed nitro, it is the 2 speed clutchbell from the maximum mt pro because I own one of those. Here's a link:one (http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXVU80&P=Z) two (http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXVU81&P=Z) three (http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXVU82&P=Z) , and if you don't want to buy those gears for the clutchbell, the stock streetforce gears would probably fit.

[rcnitrofan86]

also to add i got the powerline shox for the front and back, but I could olny get the front to fit, and I had to send the rear ones back.

[2 speed nitro]

Originally posted by rcnitrofan86
2 speed nitro, it is the 2 speed clutchbell from the maximum mt pro because I own one of those. Here's a link:one (http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXVU80&P=Z) two (http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXVU81&P=Z) three (http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXVU82&P=Z) , and if you don't want to buy those gears for the clutchbell, the stock streetforce gears would probably fit.

yeah das what i got...werks good with stock gears cept they hang a little out...

[2 speed nitro]

what happened to every1? people haven't poseted here in almost a month! come on people lets here some updates!!!!!!

[Savage Crazy]

Originally posted by 2 speed nitro
what happened to every1? people haven't poseted here in almost a month! come on people lets here some updates!!!!!!

Here's an update I hit a curb and now want to sell mine so make me an offer..

[2 speed nitro]

i would, if i wasn't saving up money for a real car...sorri..

[Saboteur]

Well I used the stock clutchbell and 2speed setup for my NEO TNT. Works like a charm. I'm thinking of having my friend buy a SFGP probably for our RC Club.

[Savage Crazy]

Originally posted by Saboteur
Well I used the stock clutchbell and 2speed setup for my NEO TNT. Works like a charm. I'm thinking of having my friend buy a SFGP probably for our RC Club.

$70 bucks and you can have mine you just have to put a new front end all parts in total are only 40 bucks.

[MaximumF350]

Az-I upgraded my brakes with a vented carbon fiber brake disk from windtunnelracing.com I really like it and it works very well. I don't think that WTR.com is around any longer. You could use the fiberglass disk from the Maximum ST. It has the same size hex, but you'll have to grind the perimeter down to the correct diameter.

Another good mod is to change all the ball cups to captured ball ends. I did this because my front suspension would bind up like crazy. Now it's really smooth.

I have modded my SFGP to the max I think. The only thing I don't have is the Robinson Racing diffs. Actually, I had them, but I sold them because the front belt slipped off them.

Here's a list of all my other hop ups:

DURATRAX
foam bumper
cvds
side belt tensioner
carbon fiber radio tray and shock towers
1.8mm sway bar
purple head for os .12

HPI
front belt tensioner
front bulkhead brace
5mm offset wheels (makes car 200mm)
v rage tires
front bumper mounted body posts
200mm wrx body

AE
purple header

OFNA
six ringed pipe

OS
cv-rx .12

MIP
clutch and spring

I think that's it.

[2 speed nitro]

niiice! i don't have money to be spending on my street force...show us some pix bro!!!

[MaximumF350]

I know it seems willy to spend this much on a Duratrax, but I had a good time building this car and still enjoy racing it.

Here's a shot of the carbon fiber brake disk

[MaximumF350]

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[MaximumF350]

WRX body

[MaximumF350]

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[MaximumF350]

that should be silly not willy and this is the WRX body

[MaximumF350]

What, no responses to my pictures? Did I leave everyone speechless?

BTW...the shocks are HotBodies and the 18t pulleys are Powerline.

[hOndafienD]

im hertre this is 2 speed nitro....yeah your **** is deff looking good!!!! wish mine could look like dat...anywaiis i ran mines todaii and the batterypack cam off at mid throttle and it just kept goin...i caught it after it flipped and broke the right front turnbukle...no biggie tho.....oh yeah another 1 of my clutches melted...im gettin the hpi now....any1 know which high performance head can fit on the stock v15? also i needa know what a good running temp it...it still bogs a lil at full throttle but all i can saii is wow...this **** moves!!!!! :D

[hOndafienD]

$70 bucks and you can have mine you just have to put a new front end all parts in total are only 40 bucks.


what mods are salvagable?

[hOndafienD]

yeah just came back from running my beast :-D....this thing is too fast....i broke the hub and the carrier.....ran into a damn tire :-( yeah it will be runnin by fridaii agen....any1 know what length the duratrax CVD's are? since i got hpi A arms they are too short and i need longer 1's...also this thing fishtails all over the place..i think i might go to 30mm front tires and 32mm rear tires...what does every1 think?

[Saboteur]

yeah just came back from running my beast :-D....this thing is too fast....i broke the hub and the carrier.....ran into a damn tire :-( yeah it will be runnin by fridaii agen....any1 know what length the duratrax CVD's are? since i got hpi A arms they are too short and i need longer 1's...also this thing fishtails all over the place..i think i might go to 30mm front tires and 32mm rear tires...what does every1 think?


You think it's that fast? Try slapping in one of the more powerful engines side exhaust engines or some rear exhaust engine. ;) Using 30mm front and 32mm rear won't stop your fishtailing. Adjust the ball diffs. With them tightened, you'll notice that when you turn one wheel the other turns in the same direction. When nailing the throttle that can cause your ride to fishtail. In my onroads, I keep the rear diff a little loose and run the front 1/2 turn or more tighter than the rear to keep things stable.

[hOndafienD]

well i locked my rear differntial so its gonna stay liek that for now....yeah i want to get a better engnine this summer...some sort of a small block .12.....and i really need captured ball ends to eliminte that high speed wobble...the wobble on this thing is amazing!

anywaiis made yet another custom mod tonight....added the white 1.8mm stabilzer bar to the front...with the help of the hpi front brace and 2 zip ties that thing realli seems like its going to work well...now i gotta see how it perfroms once i have the car back together...i'll take a couple pix once it's all together.....

saboteur...

there any mods you recommend me doing? i want to swap a one way differential in the front to keep everything nice...and deff need the side belt tensior now....also just ordered a dubro feul filter from ebay, that should be in, in a couple of days, and my boi is hooking me up with a free hpi racing clutch.....the clutch really seems to be slippin when i gun it....but atleast it didn't melt....(yet) but hey i love this car...too much fun...now i can start taking on some challengers...

[hOndafienD]

i made yet another custom mod todaii.....i was bored so i got the idea of putting a 2nd disk on da brake system since i had one laying around and put another pad....seems to wekr well, now i just have to see how it perfroms...i'll take pix 2morrow...:-D....hows every1 else doin?

[hOndafienD]

ahhh! no batteries! they are chargin now...yeah well anywaiis i went to the hobby shop todaii...put an order out for the side belt tensioner! can't wait! and got me some OFNA springs for the rear to keep it from fishtails...i got the white medium springs on...just a tad more stiff then the ones i had on before....we'll see how it runs on sat...when the rest of the parts come in.....pix coming soon!

[hOndafienD]

last pic of maximumf350's post....

ok you know how you have the steering servo post? yeh im missing the left side one! i just noticed! sum1 help me...i need da part #!....thats why my steering is soo sloppy...i new something was wrong....you can see it from this pic...its to the left of the tuned pipe....has the lil spring the the cf radio tray...sum1 please! asap!!!!!

[Saboteur]

Honda-You won't benefit much with a oneway diff for bashing around. For the most part, most racers use it on some large tracks as it allows the car to corner at higher speeds. Basically it allows the full 4wd when you hit the gas, but when you apply the braking, only the rears will slow down;the front wheels will stay spinning. They also freespin when entering turns. On smaller tracks, using both ball diffs or gear diffs work better. Just have to dial them in. I'd use the cash for something like graphite parts or other parts to get rid of the wobbling. The SFGP does have quite a bit of it and for sure a high competition .12 or .15 engine will tear the car apart. I have the HPI clutch in my other sedan with the MT12. It's really nice. As for clutch, remove the clutchbell and scuff the clutch shoes a bit to reduce slippage. Scuffing the inside of the clutchbell is another option. Meantime, just loosen the diff screw in the rear.

[hOndafienD]

thanx for the tips...year right now im mostly working on dialing the car in...i bout captured ball ends todaii to try and get rid of more wobble...i even used a rubberband for the left to right linkeage to make it more stable....theres wayy too much play in the damn suspension but imma get to the end of it...and i got another clutch..from liek a tc3 or something liek that...looks like its a lot better quality then stock.....my freidn had one laying around brand new so i sed what the heck....i did scuff up the inside of the clutchbell so we see how that works...i feel a lot of potential in this car...after i get rid of all this lil stupid problems...hopefully the front sway bar will work good too....

[MaximumF350]

This is the servo saver post for the other side. The SFGP doesn't come with it stock. I added it to eliminate some of the slop.
http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/WTI0001P?&I=LXTT92

[hOndafienD]

nice....i might do the same...did it do a good job of eliminating the slop? also....can i get a close up so i see how you put it all together? thanx.....how much did you pay for the pullies?

[MaximumF350]

Pulleys are $25 Here's the link http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXVB44&P=7

The post goes on like the other one.

[hOndafienD]

aiight thanx a lot...

[2 speed nitro]

cheah i got mah old s/n bak :-D

[2 speed nitro]

i was bored so i took a couple pics of the broken r/c :D ....herre are the new OFNA medium white springs...the srpings are really easy to change on the shocks i might add...really really nice hop up!

[2 speed nitro]

herre is a shot of the custom 2 brake disk system as promised :D

[2 speed nitro]

sorri fellas comp is slow todaii

[2 speed nitro]

herre is the front sway bar shot and whole car...i kno i kno gotta fix the camber...and im missing the right side tire :-D

[2 speed nitro]

yeah im ordering a failsafe 2morrow and my fuel filter should be in this week...also c hub and steering knuckle along with the side belt tensioner should be in friday.

[2 speed nitro]

what do you guys turn the turnbuckles with? i hate it that i have to pop them off to turn them and ****...expecially in the front such a pain in the ***....what tool works with the durtrax turnbuckles?

[MaximumF350]

It's either a 5mm or 5.5mm hex. I have little wrench that I use.

[hondafather]

IS this car any good?

[2 speed nitro]

oh ok...i have to purchase me 1 then...thanx...

Hondafather:

it's a grat rookies car....very very fast out of box....limited to option parts but many other hpi parts fit on it...love the car :)

[2 speed nitro]

herre are the pix as promised! i got the filter todaii off of ebay...failsafe was ordered yesterdaii, should be in by next week or late this week...

[2 speed nitro]

and another shot inside the house...man i want the front end parts bad!...yeah imma get fuel line clips to make sure the lines don't slide off or anything...