Engine doesn't even start Combustion.

[FrozenKamikaze]

I got home today started My truck up ran good for a few min's then it just shutdown. I tryed to start it for a while but it never started combustion even once My settings are basically factory and it's around 70* outside.

I checked the glow plug and I hooked it up to the EZstart and it didn't even glow orange. This is My pro isn't it.

What type of gloplug will work with My TRX2.5? I'm not sure if My LHS carries Traxxas gloplugs so can i substitute?

Thanks.

[FrozenKamikaze]

Now the EZ start turns it for barely 1sec and stops turning?

[RCRACER2471]

To me it sounds like you flooded your. What you do to fix this is take the glow plug off then turn the truck upside down and then press the easy start. All of the excess fuel should come out of the engine. As for your glow plug the problem can either be that your battery for the easy start is dead or your plug has been fouled. Charge up your battery again and if still doesnt glow then you need a new glow plug...

[FrozenKamikaze]

Alrighty thanks alot man.

My EZstart is discharging so I'm gonna charge it up and then I'll see if it's flooded or not.

[JoeMAXX]

FrozenGuy,

You are in the breakin blues with your new truck. Be patient and buy a few spare plugs. I went thru 3 plugs while I broke in my TRX 2.5 engine and flooded it a few times.

Let me know how it runs and I can give you more advice on tuning this engine. Tell us your problems and we help you out.

[FrozenKamikaze]

Actually I'm done with Break-In I went through nearly 5 tanks of fuel.

Well it runs pretty good but I adjusted it a little the HS needle.

How can I get it back to factory setting and re-adjust it?

Oh yeah it averages around 65* during the day when I run it.

[FrozenKamikaze]

Ok well it was flooded I tried to start it again and it wouldn't start it turn and turned and even the EZstart said it was the GloPlug i had checked the plug earlier and it didn't even glow.

Well now I've found the problem now to solve it. I don't believe My LHS carries Traxxas GloPlugs what do you suggest I do is there another plug that would work good?

[boomski]

Frozen,

Here's your PROBLEM......... Your impatience!!!


From your post, Help fast concerning nitro fuel..............
Well I put the 10% in I'm waiting for My EZstart batt pack to charge. Aftert I finish the break in with the 10% I'll switch over to the 20% and stick with that.

AND...............
well it's broke in.....And I flipped it 4 times.....

AND...............
I put a little over 4 tanks of fuel through it during break-in. It's also around 40 something degree's outside. But I ran it a little longer and faster during the 4th stage of break-in so it should be good.

Dude Im not trying to bash you, So please don't get too offended, but the truck you bought came with specific instructions on break-in, wich you have aparently not followed (they don't say run the truck a little harder or faster on the 4th tank and just skip the 5th, or run part of it whatever). And if you flipped the truck 4 times during break in I'm sure you were not doing it like they show in the dvd (or maybe I missed the truck flipping over in the dvd) Plenty of people have answered your post for help, info, and tips. Just for you to ignore it and do watever, AND THATS FINE, its your money to waste!! I hope for your sake that you just have a flooded engine, but from reading your post I think a burned Piston/sleave is going to be a good posibility, and no amount of tuning is going to fix that now, only 100$ for a new sleeve/piston or trade in to traxxas for a new motor. Heck maybe you'll get lucky and you can get Traxxas to warranty it. Like I said I'm not trying to bash you, I made the same mistake (Botched break-in) the truck would run for about a quater of a tank and then I would have nothing but trouble with it, stalling, overheating, hard starting, no starting. I could use 2 Fresh easy start battery's and not get through a tank or two of fuel!! I replaced the motor internals, broke it in correctly, and I can now run 8-10+ tanks of fuel thru the motor with out even using one hole easy start battery, and the few times the truck does stall it starts right back up. They call the fit between the piston and sleeve the HOLY SEAL, and for good reason, If it doesn't seal the motor doesn't work. The piston and sleeve are machined to very tight tolorences, the break-in procedure is the last stage in making this fit perfect and is critical to the proper operation and lifespan of your engine. so If It turns out to be your motor internals, I would suggest that after you fix them You invest in a bottle of ritalin, read your manual, (and absorb its knowlage),and break in your new motor carefully, and PATIENTLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

GOOD LUCK BRO

Phil

[FrozenKamikaze]

I took Ritalin as a child and you should never recommend that crap to anyone it has side effects , ticks that become very hard to stop so please don't play with that.

And about Break-In I'll tell ya exactly how it wen't down. I did everything EVERYTHING! as told in the manuel that I read a whole day at school and at home same for the DVD i watched 2 times. I did everything as told on the 4th tank I ran it like said but towards the end i kept it going for about 1sec longer that's not even every time and the 5th tank I used the break-In procedure with for about a half tank or so then after that I got on it really using the truck. And yes I cleaned the AirFilter every hour of run time.

Now I'm sorry but that's pretty damn good instruction following.There's nothing wrong with My truck except the GloPlug.

Now instead of ranting on about Me being obviousely Impatient(It's nothing new)why don't you provide some usefull information like what GloPlug will work with My 2.5.

Bye Bye now:)

[The_In_Kid]

please consider the following:
http://tln.lib.mi.us/~amutch/pro/mla2001/images/img048.gif

[boomski]

FROZEN,

I don't know If you did your break in right or not, I wasn't there. I'm just taking from what you put on the boards.(flipped it 4 times)(Its only 40* outside)(ran it a little longer & faster) I too watched the dvd 2 times and read the manual I downloaded from the traxxas site for a week while I waited for my truck to come in the mail. even after that I still screwed up the break in. Reading it says nothing about retaining it's info, or performing the break in procedure correctly. to quote from the manual special break-in fuels are not recommended. use the same fuel you plan to use everyday. If possible, avoid breaking-in the engine on extremely hot or cold days follow the instructions EXACTLY for each of the first 6 tanks of fuel. Now I'm not ranting about your impatience I'm trying to open your eyes. Each of these statements was in the manual (that you read all day at school) and each of them addresses some of your frantic posts for help! I'm certain your glow plug will need to be replaced to quote the MANUAL yet againWe recommend to go ahead and replace the glow plug with a new one after the engine break-in procedure. The glow plug may be all thats wrong with your motor, I was just trying to let you know if you continue to experience runability problems with your motor don't trash traxxas for it or send the truck back to werever you got it, learn from the mistakes made and build on the knowlage gained.
To aswer your qestion on the glow plugs other than the traxxas plugs (witch I find near imposible to find at a hobby shop) try these,

McCOY...........MC-9
or
o'donnell.......ODO77

There are others that will fit too it just depends on what your hobby shop stocks.

phil

[FrozenKamikaze]

This is what the hobbyshop carries

A5

OS8

MegaTech#3

Q Series

Will any of these work?

[rampbrian]

get a a5 and a os #8

altho the os # 8 is a medium plug

id try the a5 first, once the engine is running , and you kill that plug then go for the os #8.

lotts of people talk crap about os plugs, I like them and they work good.

glow plugs can break in less than 5 min of running, and once a glow plug goes, there is nothing you can do except replace it. so keep your eye on teppatures of the head on the engine. if you touch it and it burns you, your running too lean.

[-=ADA$=-]

or grab your soldering iron and..... ok it wont work this time duct tape also, and if plug goes bad in 5 mins you got wrong plug, probably too hot for the engine

[JoeMAXX]

Originally posted by FrozenKamikaze
This is what the hobbyshop carries

A5

OS8

MegaTech#3

Q Series

Will any of these work?

Do not let these guys intimidate you. FrozenGuy I will help you out.

The OS 8 will be the best bet in a crunch. The only problem with all these plugs is they do not fit the Blue Wire from the Easy Start system. They require a Glow Starter.

What I would do since your LHS does not carry the best plug for the TRX 2.5 is order them online. Here is what I use for my TMaxx and I bought 10 of them so I would have plenty of spares.


http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXR508&P=7

[FrozenKamikaze]

Ok well I taveled 100miles roundtrip:D and got 3 MegaTech Qseries Chris Chianelli plugs and it worked fine I was having trouble starting it still so I walked back in and asked the guy what was the problem so he took My starter and said here press this when I say and I did and he primed the tank and something else and it started squirting out Nitro so then he recommended a gloplug igniter well he unpluged the blue wire from the gloplug put the glo igniter on there pressed the button and within a second My truck was running it was amazing.

He said that the wire only heats up the plug when the button is mashed so there's nitro getting all in the plug making ity harder to start and he said over time it can become costly.

Well I got the Igniter some AfterRun oil and 3 plugs. And they also have a really nice track and they race every Sunday at 2:00 they exspect up to 25-30 people tomarrow. In about a month when I get My license I'm gonna start driving down there and racing they have a monster truck class so I can race there.

These people we're really nice and helpfull they didn't BS around like My LHS. And they had plenty of Traxxas replacment parts to.

Thanks for the help all of you who didn't bash Me for being "Impatient":rolleyes:

Later!

[Quinton]

When you were testing the glo plug were you grounding it out on the head or just holding it out? It won't glo if it's not grounded.

[FrozenKamikaze]

well it wasn't on the head...

Anyway it's not working again It barely starts and it shuts off after a few min's of runtime and the engine starts to smoke so I richen it and then it just stutters.....

I'm fed up with this crap man I'm driving to the LHS tomarrow right after school I'm gonna tell the guy I'd like you to see why this truck isn't starting and fix it and I'd like you to tune it for Me while I watch so I can get this crap down.

Even if it cost $$.

[Quinton]

Is it cold? Mine run bad if I don't use a hair dryer on them to get them up to temps to start off with

[FrozenKamikaze]

nope it was over 70* today.

[Quinton]

When the weather changes everything will have to be adjusted again.

[FrozenKamikaze]

Yeah I know.

[-=ADA$=-]

not everything, and only if weather changes alot, of course if you want your truck running, cause if you want to get every bit of performance, youll need to tune it every time you run, but just fine tune it

[spy5870]

holy crap. frozen... one word... ELECTRIC!

[379]

Originally posted by spy5870
holy crap. frozen... one word... ELECTRIC!


normally i say nitro all the way but this time ill make a change get an electric and let someone else enjoy the nitro oviosly there is something wrong with the operater that said operator dont wanna tell us

[Jeckler]

Originally posted by Quinton
When you were testing the glo plug were you grounding it out on the head or just holding it out? It won't glo if it's not grounded.

???

The plug does not have to be grounded to the head to test. You MUST be thinking of sparkplugs for 1:1 cars. RC glowplugs make their electrical connection through the tip (on top) of the plug, and the body. The 'ground' is part of the ignitor.

[Quinton]

If you are using the blue wire on a Tmaxx you have to have the glow plug touching the head in order to get it to glow. If you are using an igniter the above is not true.

Thanks

[Jeckler]

Gotcha. I was basing my remark on the fact the OP said he picked up an ignitor from the hobby shop he went to.
Guess I shouldv'e clarified that myself, thanks.