Team Associated B4 buggy forum v3.0

[Breakin2]

How fast does a basic B4 go? By basic, I mean without any over-priced suped up motor.

[k_sw31]

Any where from 20-35 mph.

[chevyman007]

Mine goes about 33 with a speed gems pro 15t.

[gubby]

mine was uber fast with a 14 turn KR

[Breakin2]

So far, mine has gone zero because it hasn't arrived in the damn mail yet. :mad:

[microrcdude]

Originally posted by gubby
mine was uber fast with a 14 turn KR
How fast is uber fast?.......................:p J/K

[drumr racer]

I bet they have almost gotten a b4 up to supersonic speeds, or maybe exceeding it.
If you put a big enough motor on it j/k

In a plane... get it

[pudder]

I like rc cars.

[Lapster]

I like rc cars.

No you dont... what do you think this is?? An RC Car Forum or something?:rolleyes:

[pudder]

I'm done now.

[gubby]

*explains to audience that pudder is done now* *and that pudder likes rc cars* *and that pudder needs to get a 4 series AE chassis*

[k_sw31]

Pudder claims he can last 6 weeks without alcohol.

I just laugh. ANd drink.

[pudder]

I'm waitin for the T/B4 FT to come out. Dont feel like spending my Canuck Bucks on graphite parts which I just lust for and must have. :)

[microrcdude]

Originally posted by pudder
I'm waitin for the T/B4 FT to come out. Dont feel like spending my Canuck Bucks on graphite parts which I just lust for and must have. :)
Don't forget the RPM blue parts!!!!

[gubby]

nah, pudder likes those rpm PURPLE parts.... :D LoL

[pudder]

I'll buy some blue RPM parts justso I have an excuse to get B4/T4 hehe

[microrcdude]

Originally posted by pudder
I'll buy some blue RPM parts justso I have an excuse to get B4/T4 hehe
I gotta try that.....:D :D

[HPI-Fan-4-Ever]

I'll buy some blue RPM parts justso I have an excuse to get B4/T4 hehe

nice, i like that idea.... :D

i was just curious, i saw a new ESC that LRP came out with, a Quantum Competition or something similiar, that can handle motors down to 5 turns, plus it is relatively cheap. How fast would a B4 go with, say, a 10-turn mod motor? I was seriously considering this ESC, since I virtually would have no motor limit, and I figured that a 10-turn motor would definitely be faster than my stock one. I plan to competitively race at a local track.

And, for anyone out there running brushless, how fast does your buggy go? I was also considering getting a Novak brushless system if I decided to just bash with it

[chevyman007]

For the money of that Comp 2 you could probably get a novak brushless. But to answer your question with a 10 turn im sure you could hit 40 with the right gearing.

[Breakin2]

I "bought" a B4 from eBay a couple weeks ago, but the guy dicked me over and it fell through. Therefore, I'm back in the market.

Is this a pretty good deal?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3167504303

[microrcdude]

He sells those batts for like $35.00, so i think so.

[gubby]

pudder, now you have to buy a b4 or t4! the following URL is why! mwhahaha!

http://www.wild hobbies.com/news/default.asp?cmd=view&articleid=1158

(take space out between wild and hobbies)

[RC_Flames]

Does an RPM front A-arm for the B3 fit on the B4?

[pudder]

No.

[gubby]

Originally posted by pudder
No.

LMAO! its funny cvause its put so blunt :P

[k_sw31]

No its not.

[pudder]

I was just answering the question... :confused:

[Lapster]

No you werent.















































:p:D

[gubby]

lol

[NitroCrackers]

right now i am the high bidder on a b4 on ebay and i cant wait to WIN it:p but anyways i have a hacker sport controller and all i need now is a c40 8 turn... muahahahaha. im sure i could hit around 60 with 8 cells:D ill have the fastest b4 for now... think i could do 70?

Anthony

[microrcdude]

Originally posted by NitroCrackers
think i could do 70?

Anthony
i'm sure you can with the right gearing.

[NitroCrackers]

that hacker should be powerful enough shouldnt it?
i think swami has had his pede up to 60 or sumtin

[k_sw31]

Swami hit a little over 60 mph with his hacker C40 8t on 12 cells.


On the other hand someone with a basic 5300 and 10 cells hit over 65...

Maybe we should get a B4 speed race going....

(BTW: for those who don't know, I have a Hacker esc and basic 5300.)

[NitroCrackers]

who and in what car hit 65 on a 5300? im just curious cause that would be cheaper :D i dont have anyway of seeing my speed cause i dont have a radar gun. has anyone tested the new venom speed thingy? oh do you have a link to that guys setup of the 65mph car?

[k_sw31]

Edit: For some reason the link isnt working....=\

[NitroCrackers]

it worked for me, put it back up please.
well here is the car i won on ebay, do you think i got a good deal? http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3168172381 and if that doesnt work then the item number is 3168172381

will the hacker sport handle the amps from a 5300 on 12 cells? if not will the comp. handle it?

well i cant wait to recieve my new car.. :D

[k_sw31]

The sport should be able to handle the amps. However, I would be extremley weary of running 12 on it. I have ran 10 cells on occasion on my basic, but mostly 6-8, which the motor is designed for. I think 10 really is all you need, the motor is putting out so many rpms at that point another cell is just added weight.

That looks like quite an awesome deal on the B4 there. All built and tons of hopups for less than the price of a team kit. :D

I'll try and get the link tomorrow...its late and traxxas servers are slow.

[BrushlessHawaii]

Doing the happy Dance My Accessories and parts I needed to finish my B4 will be in today - But I have to Wait till tomorrow to pick them up :( (payday) My Bill gonna be about $300. ugg

[k_sw31]

I finally ordered an aluminum hingepin brace for my B4. I have just been real damn lazy latley. I also sent off my brushless controller yesterday because it has been acting pretty weird recently. prolly be up and brushless in 2-3 weeks, depending on how long hacker takes on it.

[Breakin2]

I finally got my B4 in the mail today. Of course, we're expecting 6 inches of snow tomorrow.....

[BrushlessHawaii]

UGGG my Quantum 2 ESC and the Hinge pin brace both came back as backordered - so It Looks Like my B4 won't be running this weekend.

[Breakin2]

What are some of the first hop-ups I should get for the car? I got the RTR version and I'm a novice to the RC world, so I'm probably going to hold off on the more complex improvements until I feel more confident I won't screw everything up.

Thanks.

[BrushlessHawaii]

Get an Aluminum Hinge Pin Brace - The Most needed part you'll need.

I found out Team A's is on Backorder - but the Trinity one is available.

from there it's more or less what you wanna do

[NitroCrackers]

all you really need is an aluminum hinge pin brace and maby some titanium turnbuckles. Threaded shock bodies make life a little easier but you dont need them. you can also look into buying an aluminum front bulk... but that should be about it.



i got my car in the mail last night, now i just need a motor for i
:D i was think aoubt a hacker b50 8s? and does anyone know the stock gearing for spur/pinion? and the pitch?

thanx alot
Anthony

[BrushlessHawaii]

I think if you look in the paper work (instructions) that came with your buggy it has the Stock Gear sizes and ratios you need to match pinions & Spurs. I'm almost positive I saw that in there.

I'm at work and Can't look right now.

[k_sw31]

Don't get the B50 8s, that is a bit big for a buggy.

Lehner 5300 or a C40 8s will be the best. :)

[drumr racer]

ok:D

[Breakin2]

Excuse my newness, but what exactly does an aluminum hinge pin brace do? Is it easy to install? What do they cost, usually?
Thanks.

[NitroCrackers]

the hinge pin brace holds the hinge pins at the end and an aluminum will help keep the front bulk in 1 piece. they are about $7 on ebay here (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3169428164&category=34063)

[Breakin2]

NitroCrackers - thanks for the info and for the link. I'm going to pick that up.

[NitroCrackers]

sweet, it works... its alive
Artic. shot, lol
http://upl.mine.nu/uplfolders/upload4/buggy1.JPG
check out the weird tire angle... i gotta fix that
http://upl.mine.nu/uplfolders/upload4/buggy7.JPG
another
http://upl.mine.nu/uplfolders/upload4/buggy3.JPG
and last one
http://upl.mine.nu/uplfolders/upload4/buggy2.JPG

[HPI-Fan-4-Ever]

Hey, nice ride NitroCrackers, but where the heck did you get those threaded shock bodies? I wouldn't mind if they aren't actual B4 shocks, I want some so bad...

Also, is there a carbon-whatever-graphite rear shock tower, or even an aluminum one available? Today ramping off my porch and getting major air I hit the ramp crooked and you can guess what happened....I just needed to move both shocks to the lowest position... but is there anything I can replace the tower with or add to it to give it strength? I know that for Losi's XXX-4 Graphite Plus there are graphite braces that you can attach, does anyone make something like that for the B4?

[NitroCrackers]

carbon shock towers are stiffer but are more brital (sp??). they break easier, id just stick with the stock towers. im not sure where the threaded shocks came from, i bought the car used and it had them on it, although i know they are ae shocks

[pudder]

Team Associated has option threaded shock bodies I believe, and it looks like you have the AE blue aluminum shock caps as well.

[drumr racer]

Originally posted by HPI-Fan-4-Ever
Hey, nice ride NitroCrackers, but where the heck did you get those threaded shock bodies? I wouldn't mind if they aren't actual B4 shocks, I want some so bad...

Also, is there a carbon-whatever-graphite rear shock tower, or even an aluminum one available? Today ramping off my porch and getting major air I hit the ramp crooked and you can guess what happened....I just needed to move both shocks to the lowest position... but is there anything I can replace the tower with or add to it to give it strength? I know that for Losi's XXX-4 Graphite Plus there are graphite braces that you can attach, does anyone make something like that for the B4?
Yeah AE makes the threaded shocks for the b4.
You could get an aluminum shock tower like here Super souped up b4 in UK parts (http://www.cmldistribution.co.uk/fast_b4.htm), or if the rear shock tower on the T4 fits the B4, you can find one on ebay under radio control/ t4.
I don't recomend getting one though.
try switching to a lighter oil weight, or #3 piston in the back if that's your problem.

[drumr racer]

wait, is the #3 one have bigger holes, or does #1
another question, I found that team losi shock pistons have three holes, three is better than two I think, where can I find them to fit on the B4. and where can I find 1000-grit sandpaper to size them down (they don't fit)
is 1000- grit good enough?

[adam lancia]

drumr racer,

the losi shock pistons are designed to provide more damping using the same overall hole diameter as the 2-hole associated pistons. in other words, if the losi 3-hole piston has the same amount of space for oil to move through as an assocaited 2-hole piston, it will still make the damping slightly stiffer. losi actually designs their vehicles suspensions to operate with more "pack" (heavier damping) than associated does, hence the different style of pistons and shocks. the losi shocks, due to their design, provide more compression damping because of (i think???) the non-emulsion design as opposed to assocaited shocks which are an emulsion design, meaning that the oil and air are allowed to mix rather than, with the losi shocks, the design allows almost all of the air to be bled from the shock during assembly. in my opinion, it's not worth the effort to sand down a bunch of pistons because it'll be hard to be sure they are all still perfectly round and the exact same size. if you want to customize your associated pistons, you can drill an extra hole (or even 2 extra holes just to balance it out) in a #3 piston. be sure to use a very small "number" drill bit (ask someone at a hobby shop about the specific sizes to be safe). these bits are different in that the size of the bit isreferred to by a number rather than a fraction of an inch measurement. hope this helps,

adam

oh yeah, to answer your question, the #3 pistons have the smallest holes and the #1 pistons have the largest holes.

[NitroCrackers]

what gearing should i use with my b508s? i just got it in the mail, installed it, and tested (with a half dead batt.) it to make sure it was wired right and the only thing i need now is a pinion. im gonna buy a rr hard nickle pinion (good pinion??) but i need to know which would be the best tooth (i believe its the stock spur on the car). help is much appreciated, thank you.

Anthony

[adam lancia]

do you know what type of brushed motor it is equivalent to? is it like a 10X2 or a 13X1? i don't know what type of motor you have so any reference to something more familiar will make it easier to recommend proper gearing for you,

adam

[k_sw31]

The B50 8s should have a lot of torque. Possible practical gearing can range from 19 to 25-26. That motor is a very powerful one, but for all around gearing I say pick up some pinions from 21-23 teeth.

[HPI-Fan-4-Ever]

is there a divider between the servo and where the battery pack goes? it seems like it broke off of mine and the pack slid into the steering servo, because my servo is broken free from one of the brace things holding it down.....how can i fix this?

[drumr racer]

Adam, I already know that the team losi holes are smaller and don't really provide extra damping, it's just smoother for the fluid to go through, and I heard that pro-line had some three holes. Where can I find those if they fit
Hpi, the little divider was probably there, if it wasn't, send it in to associated. I bet you were using a stick pack, and the little place where the wires come out probably pushed your servo too much, or you stripped your servo mounts. I'd say glue the mounts back together and when you are instaling the servo, crank down on the one that wasn't broken and lightly tighten the broken one untill you can find someone to sell it to, or buy the replacement parts.

[HPI-Fan-4-Ever]

I found a somewhat-perfect solution to prevent the pack from sliding back and forth into the servo now, I just took the little chunk of foam & cut a space for the pack wires to go up, then I stuffed it in there (need to pick up servo tape for it), and I also scuffed parts of the battery strap to "grab" onto the rubber seal of the pack and I lowered how much it sat on the pack....so that is basically solved....would some J-B Weld connect the steering servo to the one part it broke off? If so I will use that in addition to using servo tape to hold it down too.....thanks for the tips! I will check my LHS for whatever may have broken or fallen out...

and does anyone know how many US dollars is equal to 17.99£ ?? That's a Euro sign I assume, I see a part on a sight I wanna buy but they have it in a different currency....

[pudder]

Use www.xe.com's currency converter.

[NitroCrackers]

JEESE MAN! this b50 has a TON of torque :eek: and plenty of top end... it flies. i need to tighten my diff. cause in the turns it just unloads and the car spins out.

i was doin a speed pass and i wasnt payin attention to what was ahead and poof, my car dissappears into a pile of snow hahaha. i took it inside and dried it all off and it was ready to go again.

[HPI-Fan-4-Ever]

geez, since saturday our street has been nothin but snow with a layer of ice under it and there's about 3-5 inches of powder everywhere....

so last nite i had to drive in it with my buggy....omg it was so awesome, even with the stock motor i was kickin up white stuff everywhere in a big rooster tail, and in the street i couldn't go a few feet without spinnin out.....

and its all thanks to electrical tape! i love that stuff......its great that its cold too cuz i can put tape all over every opening to under the body and i can cover the motor up too, and nuthin gets hot.....if your a true basher, try it out! great fun! just make sure to cover your ESC with tape too, so no water creeps in from the top of it...everything else will be fine, and any snow that gets in there sits in the bottom of the chassis and just melts into miniscual puddles of water...

[adam lancia]

hpi-fan,

you may want to contact associated about the chassis. they had some problems with some of the earlier moldings being sub-par and it sounds like yours might be one of those. does the plastic feel unusually soft compared to other plastice parts on the car? does it look different from other b4 chassis (if you've seen others)? if so, i would definitely talk with someone at associated about it.

adam

[HPI-Fan-4-Ever]

well, it doesn't seem that its softer than other parts, it just that the one divider thing that broke was really thin, like a compartment divider, but i found a temporary solution.....i will just find another piece of plastic i have laying around and epoxy it or JB Weld it in place along with gluing the servo back into the bracing.... i will look at other chassis's and see if it is different, if so then i will contact associated about it.....i didn't know that there were problems with other chassis's and stuff, thank you for telling me!

[Lapster]

You are gluing your servo in? I wouldnt do that... what if your servo breaks?

[Jhstud50]

hey steve! are you coming to the trophy race on the 28th? tell me soon so I know if youre coming:)

[HPI-Fan-4-Ever]

i'm not gluing the servo down, i'm regluing it to the little brace on the side because it broke and now whenever i steer my servo moves back and forth....i plan on using servo tape to hold it down, i just don't want it moving back and forth

[Lapster]

Ok... I actually had to do that once this year. One night when I was racing I broke a servo brace in my first qualifier and the shop didnt have any. I glued it on... it didnt work very long though... about a week. Then they finally got some in stock.


Josh.... I am not sure if I am going up there yet. I will know soon though.

[MasterGoa]

Hey guys! How ya doin!

Well, I just retired my original 1984 Gold Tub RC10
cause I finished my B4!!!

Man, Associated people, with their passion
for RC coupled with 20 years of developments gave me a hella
nice buggy!!!

Just assembling the steering assured me I was in good hands!

I have two questions, and I have come to the right place cause its about snow.

Are there any pin or stud type tires for the
from wide buggy rims? Ribs are great in hard packed
of clay but totally soxurz in snow...

Also, I noticed that the from springs are so short,
they actually dangle when the suspention is extended.

If I remove the spring spacers, can I fit T4 front springs?

Thanx a bunch guys and PLAY HARD!!!

[Lapster]

Front buggy Tires (http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXDU14&P=7)

I used those once and they worked well in snow.... I lost them though... I dont know how.. but I did. LOL.

And I wouldn't take T4 springs and pu them on the front. The spring will be very compressed therefore it will seem stiffer. Just add spacers so the front a-arms are level.

[HPI-Fan-4-Ever]

for my springs, I took the little greens ones off the front (the spacers too) and I put the silver springs from the back on the front. Then, I found some softer rear-truck springs. this is just my personal preference, now it doesn't nose-dive over big jumps and the front-end lands a little smoother...the silver springs in the front keep the ride height up, but if you use a softer spring in the back you'll need spacers....

[MasterGoa]

Thanx HPI, this is the exact problem
I was trying to avoid.

I really think those springs are just too short.

:D

[k_sw31]

The springs are fine actually. They are designed to work with internal shock limiters and give you lots of spacers in off the bat for a wider range of tuning options.

Just put some preload spacers in, like the manual tells you to.

[MasterGoa]

Originally posted by k_sw31
The springs are fine actually. They are designed to work with internal shock limiters and give you lots of spacers in off the bat for a wider range of tuning options.

Just put some preload spacers in, like the manual tells you to.

Thanx but I think ill go with front truck springs after all...

What about tires?

Do pin type front tires exist for wide fron wheels?

[Lapster]

Master... I dont know of any pin type tires that work with buggy fronts. The xxx-4 tires may work... you can give them a try... just mount them and if they dont work take them back. If they do... tell me what you used!



The truck springs dont work very well at all. I put some springs from my T4 on my b4 and they didnt work very well. You could actually cut the spring with a dremel then bend the top so it is flat like a stock spring.

[chevyman007]

I just rebuilt my trans. with some new rings and some stealth lube. But I thought when you rebuild you are supposed to get new balls and everthing, but the guy at the LHS said just get some rings and pack the diff with that grease and youll be good.

[chevyman007]

I just rebuilt my trans. with some new rings and some stealth lube. But I thought when you rebuild you are supposed to get new balls and everthing, but the guy at the LHS said just get some rings and pack the diff with that grease and youll be good.

[speedydave]

The balls usually last way longer than the rings do. Remember to rebuild the thrust bearing when you rebuild the diff! The thrust bearing is a very important part of the diff, and a lot of people overlook it when they rebuild their diffs(I used to, and then I'd wonder why my diff still felt gritty even after I rebuilt it two or three times).

[jnegrx]

The stock sprigs are very short but they work great. I just bought the brown front spring and they are awsome also they are longer so you don't have to use so much preload spacers.

[chevyman007]

Thrust bearing? Alright, thanx for the tip. I keep on trying to post a pic on here, but I cant seem to get the pic small enough for this site. Help?

[Lapster]

Save the image as a JPEG. Go to file.... save as..... JPEG.... it will be small.

[NitroCrackers]

are there any options for wheels besides the standered "DISH"? iv seen losi cars with some 5 or 6 star wheels, does anyone know where to buy them or if they will fit the b4?

Anthony

[xxxkat]

Hey anybody looking for a B4,I have a new one,loaded,all the trick parts,asking 1/2 of what I have in it.

[HPI-Fan-4-Ever]

post a pic of it, "loaded" doesn't necessarily mean it has what someone wants on it. if you mean loaded in that it has all the necessary stuff for racing then i'm sure someone is interested...

[gubby]

Originally posted by NitroCrackers
are there any options for wheels besides the standered "DISH"? iv seen losi cars with some 5 or 6 star wheels, does anyone know where to buy them or if they will fit the b4?

Anthony

losi makes those rims. but the only losi rims that will fit the b4 are for the rears, so you will have rear rims with spokes and the fronts will be dishes, it would be kinda tacky looking IMO

[FLYBOY7]

i'm running Pro-line Slash 4wd front tires on PL B4 wide front rims.... any of you guys looking for more front traction on about any surface should give this a try... the 4wd front tires are a tad bit wider, but not by much, but they offer a lot more steering (except on loam)... i've also mounted up Losi IFMAR pin 4wd fronts on B4 front rims with zero problems....

[HPI-Fan-4-Ever]

i'm going to start racing at my local track soon, and i wanna build my own 6-cell packs, how hard would you say it is to do so? i have all the stuff i need, except the cells themselves.....also, is there much room for error? as in if i had to break something off and re-attach it to the cell would it cause any lack in performance?

[pudder]

Its not very hard to screw up on if yo uknow what to do going into the job. Make sure you have a high powered soldering gun/iron, and good solder as well as batttery bars. Make sure to line up the cells so that the labels are all lined up, otherwise your batts will look silly. Other than that I can just tell you to not hold your soldering gun on the battery for more than 5 seconds or it will damage your batts, and make sure that your solder is thorough and that your battery bars will stay on.

[HPI-Fan-4-Ever]

i'm just curious as to how a pack like i'm trying to build hooks up to the ESC...I know that you solder a wire to a bar on the pack, but does it connect like a pre-built pack? And does it connect to the charger the same way? Not that charging is a prob, I have a pack charger and a 5-cell touring car battery charger with everything possible on it... I'm just trying to get as much info as possible before this weekend because I finally got some spare funds and I want to complete a pack this weekend...thanks for your help!

[MasterGoa]

Originally posted by FLYBOY7
i'm running Pro-line Slash 4wd front tires on PL B4 wide front rims.... any of you guys looking for more front traction on about any surface should give this a try... the 4wd front tires are a tad bit wider, but not by much, but they offer a lot more steering (except on loam)... i've also mounted up Losi IFMAR pin 4wd fronts on B4 front rims with zero problems....


Thanx Fly! Ill try this this very weekend!


BTW, for all people that are comtemplating putting T4 front
springs on a B4, it works great!

Remove all the spacers, just leave the o ring and the car is about level with black springs.

Level plus 3 degrees with silver.

Works for me!

[hawdon]

I tried to read all these posts but just couldn't. I need a little help please. My questions are as follows:

1. What spring combos should I get if I want to experiment. For instance, should I buy two different colors for the front and back, or should I just buy the set. I don't want to buy the whole set if maybe one or two will cover my needs.

2. Have you guys heard of, or tried doing this, using dog bones in the rear versus the cvd's. I called AE today and they said that on some tracks the dogs help with more cornering speed. Just wondering if anyone has tried this.

3. What bearings should I get to replace the rear hub carrier bearings. I was messing with the back axles and noticed the bearings felt rough after only 10 packs or so. I don't think I crashed hard at all. Is there something that can be done to prevent damage to these bearings? I am looking at Boca green seals or maybe some acer, not sure which is better.

4. Has anyone tried the new aluminum axles? They use a button head screw to hold on the wheel versus the nylon nut.

[FLYBOY7]

4. no... but i use Losi 5-40 locknuts instead of the plastic nuts to insure i don't get a DNF from a front wheel coming off....

3. the stock AE bearings used to be totally awesome.... but.... i don't know if they've changed sources or what, but i've blown out a couple sets of rear hub bearings... so, as far as what bearings to buy, normally i'ld recommend the stockers (which weren't cheap), but i can't recommend them anymore... i've just been buying el'cheapo dynamites....

2. a lot of the factory guys are running the bones over the CVD's... i've tried it, not just on the B4, but many previous r/c's, and the difference is Very, Very small... save your money on this one unless you are a regional A mainer or better....

1. nearly everyone i've seen runs front brown and rear silver.... from high bite to loam to carpet, that combo seems to work, or is at least in the ballpark for most tracks... if you want to just experiment, i'ld buy the heaviest (red?), the lightest (brown) and use the stockers as somewhat middle ground... i have the entire sets, but that really is kinda a waste for the B4 unless you race on radically different surfaces or enter jump contest every other weekend... LOL...


and Master.... when using the 4wd fronts, you will be over ROAR max width.... at big events we cut'em and reglue them narrower... at regular club events, nobody really cries over the tiny bit of extra width... just a head's up if you are hitting a ROAR event with them...

[pudder]

I use AE bearings on all my AE cars, but I have Dynamite bearings on several other vehicles and they work excellent.

[hawdon]

Does anyone know the exact proline part number for the tires that come in the kit?

[Lapster]

Fronts- 9591


Rears- 9590

[gubby]

yeah!

well, my integy charger started false peaking on me, so i basically quit RC. :(

but, i started thinking about how fun it was, and about how i need to get off my lazy bum and do something, and i got an urge to start up in the hobby again!

so, tonight, im going down to the hobby shop, gonna spend my gift certificate on a novak millenium/black box combo...woohoo!

then im getting some deans plugs to get my bashing vehicle (tamiya ta04 offroad) out of the past (had a little adaptor for the ESC hehe) and then a new spur gear for the tamiya...w00t!!!!!

[Lapster]

LOL... and this is in the B4 forum because...

[gubby]

uhh...ive been gone...i forgot! thats my excuse and im stickin to it ;)

oh yeah, all they had were the deans plugs...crapola!

[will5879]

Someone mentioned something about not being able to use losi wheels on the front of a B4? Over on RC10B4dotcom there is a thread about doing just that. Looks like an easy mod, and doesn't screw up the geometry or width. I like the idea of the bearings in the spindle, instead of the wheel. And I can try out some of my leftover losi fronts I have laying around. A guy could run those losi 5 spokes front and rear that way if he wanted...

[Breakin2]

I just bought a Reedy KR 14 x 2 for my B4. I also bought a new LRP ESC that can handle the lower amount of turns. However, I was wondering what pinion gear I should pick up for this upgrade. Any advice?

Thanks.

[Lapster]

With the stock spur, pick up a 22 tooth pinion.

[Breakin2]

Thanks for the input.

[*Miller*]

A B4 was reviewed on the television today, its praises were duly sung :D

I got a B4 three days ago, im currently in the process of seeing about fitting a Novak SS5800 Brushless to it. Anyone else run this motor?

[BrushlessHawaii]

If everything goes right my b4 will be running this weekend for the first time.

My Quantum 2 will be here today along with my trinity 3300 VIS Team Batteries

My Set up will be:

Associted B4
Trinity 3300 VIS Team Batteries
LRP Quantum 2 ESC
Reedy KR 14 x 2
JR XS3 Synthesized Radio & Receiver
JR 590 Servo (I think thats right) LOL


I can't Wait to Run it. Oh SHYT I gotta Buy a Charger today I forgot I sold mine. UGGGG

[HPI-Fan-4-Ever]

me and my friend went ramping with my b4 tonight...all we had was a 40lb bad of grass seed and a piece of cardboard about 4x3 feet.....with the stock motor and everything we got it to travel 14.5 feet through the air and reach a vertical height of just over 6 ft.....it broke 4 times....lol...just thought i'd share my amazing (:rolleyes: ) accomplishments with ya......i can't believe how sturdy the B4 is, the only thing that ever really broke was either a dogbone poppin out or the motor comin loose......great fun

[gubby]

went to practice at the local track yesterday, theyve changed it since the last time i was there, so i got it all set up.

now once i can find that millenium charger, i'll be up and racing agaiN! w00h00!

[Breakin2]

I got a B4 about two months ago and I've noticed that my steering sometimes locks when I go full throttle. If I'm going straight, it's no problem. However, once I cut the wheel, the car will start doing donuts until I lay off the throttle. Is this normal? Is this something a better steering servo will fix?

Thanks.

[*Miller*]

Do you mean the servo is turning the wheels to their full extent in a direction? Or are you wheelspinning so much that the car is spinning around? If I dont have enough grip and wheelspin, my B4 starts doing donuts,

[Breakin2]

That could be what's happening. It only occurs when I'm on dirt, but it seems like the car is locked in a direction as far as the wheels will turn.

[*Miller*]

Does it still happen if you open the throttle to full slowly?

[Breakin2]

Yeah, it seems like any time I cut the wheel at full throttle, it'll stay locked into the position I cut the wheel into until I release the trigger.

[bomber 1]

Hey guys, i need what else i need to put on my b4 i already have
Trinity hingepin brace, lundsford titanium t-buckles w/rpm ballcups, factory team shock caps, rpm gear cover and front bumper. What else is a good choice, i have been looking at the milled moter plate and a few other things but what do you think?

[Lapster]

You dont NEED anything else, but the milled motor plate is nice. Also look at the woven carbon battery bar.

[tarvymoto]

What is the differance between B4 rims and B3 rims? will the B4 rims fit my B3?

[Lapster]

The B4 rims have a different offset. The B3 rims will make the car less wide than the B4 rims. The front rims are the same. The B3 rims will fit, but the car wont be a wide.

[Jhstud50]

how fast will my b4 go with speed gems pro 11 turn motor with right gearing? How fast will the speed gems pro 9 turn motor will go with right gearing? Please Tell me if i should or should not get those motors. I have a Novak dually profile and it has no motor limit.

[Lapster]

Josh, It will go a little faster then my truck was going when I was there. I didnt have it geared right either, I just slapped the motor in. You could look at around 38-43. On the road. I wouldnt go that low Josh. Those motors will require a lot more effort than i think is worth it for running one the street. If you were to get either of those go for the 11 turn. The speedgems are good motors. I think I might pick up a few today to practice with.

[hotrodpablo]

I have a question about gearing. I put in a speed gem 13x2 in my b4 and using the stock gearing of 81/22 it seem to get very hot.(about 136 Deg) Does anyone have any Ideas on gearing. I don't want to burn up the motor. I have tried going all the way down to a 20t pinion with the same result.

[Lapster]

The stock spur is actually 87t I believe. So you are way over geared. if you are running an 81t spur like I am, ( I am running a 13x2 d4) run a 17t pinion.

[hotrodpablo]

thanks lapster. The stock spur gear in the kit was an 81t. It does make sense that it is overgeared. I will try dropping it down and see what happens.

[Lapster]

The T4 has an 81t spur, and it said for a 13t to use a 21.

[eddiej]

I have a question about the B4. I was thinking about buying one to use for mostly bashing around with a lehner 4200 motor. I was wondering how well the buggy would holdup, if the tranny will hold up if it takes jumps well ect. Of if should just get a stadium truck? Thanks for any help.

[hotrodpablo]

lapster. the manual for the b4 says for a 13t use a 22. I've dropped it to 18 and still running on the warm side. I'm going to have to drop it to a 17 or 16.

[Lapster]

Wow, umm... the only thing I would say is...

Have the gearing what the manual suggests. And switch motors to see if the motor is the problem. But before that, I would check to see if the drivetrain is binding. I had my 13t geared 3t too high when I first built it. And I never had heat problems.

Eddiej, yes, I have seen multiple videos of K_sw31's b4 with a lehner 5800 I believe. The car is rock solid. PM him and ask to see some of his videos.

[*Miller*]

I have a Novak SS5800, which isnt the motor you are getting... However, its still very fast ;) The B4 loves it, and it has taken a severe beating from too-fast-jumps-that-havent-landed-properly :D

[*Miller*]

Oh, and I meant to also say, its not sustained any damage from its adventures :)

[Lapster]

Hey K_SW31, where have you been... any new video's? And did you get a T4 yet?

[Jhstud50]

hey, i am going to buy the 11 turn speed gems anyway but i am looking for foam rubber tires for the b4 so i can high traction for black top. where can i get foam tires for the b4?

[hotrodpablo]

Lapster, tried dropping to a 17t pinion on my b4. Still running at 126 degrees after removing the motor from the car. my only other thought is to increase the size of the spur gear. any other ideas?

[Lapster]

Is there any binding at all on the car? Is the motor functioning properly? (If I were you I woud try a different motor before trying to free up the drivetrain, just to see if the motor is the problem.) The spur shouldnt atter, it is the same affect as the pinion. So I would just try those things.

[Jhstud50]

hey, i am going to buy the 11 turn speed gems anyway but i am looking for foam rubber tires for the b4 so i can high traction for black top. where can i get foam tires for the b4?:confused:

[Lapster]

Josh, before you buy them, go and ask that old guy with the T3 what compound foam he was using, and ask him how he got his or made them.

[Jhstud50]

yea, good idea steve. i will try to talk to him when the track is open. i think it maybe open after easter. i went to rl hobbies track yesterday and the outdoor track was open but i didnt go out because it was cold and i stayed inside and had fun anyway.:cool:

[Lapster]

Thats awesome. My track opens this saturday. it is the first day of racing. I hope it doesnt rain.:)

[HotTrick]

I am looking for some input on Associateds optional inline front axles for the B4. Has anyone tried these and what handling characteristics did this give or take from the car? It doesn't seem like anyone uses these, just curious what they will do for the car. Any info is appreciated, thanks in advance.

[Lapster]

I have used these before. In most occasions I like the Trailing axles better. The Inline axles give the car more aggressive steering. The car seems to have a lot of steering into the turn, then out of it they seem like a trailing axle. The trailing axles are better in on power and high speed steering.

[Jhstud50]

Hey, i got the 11 turn speed gems motor and 20 teeth pinion and green dot foam rubber tires preinstalled with wheels and it fits b3 and i ask a person who works at riders and he said it should fit the b4 so i buoght all of that. i installed the motor and the tires and it was very fast. I can go 60 feet in about 1 second. :p :cool: Also, i am a little confused with my new motor. How many battery runs before my motor needs to be trued? and how do i increase rpm using the degrees timing, it is set at about 5 degrees to the right. :confused:

[Lapster]

Wait, you got Foam Rubber tires... Im guessing because of the compound you said they are foam. The b3 wheels will fit the B4. They have a different offset in the rim and they will actually make the car wider than the stock B4 rims (which is a good thing). 60 ft in 1 second is about 41 mph I believe. About average for an 11t. As for cutting the comm, I cut my mods about every 5 runs. I put my motors at 17* timing. Never retard the timing( move it to the left). More timing will make it go faster, just by a little bit, but will decrease runtime. I would leave it where it is at.

[Jhstud50]

yea its fast, and i think i will cut the com. a little after 10 runs because i check my motor after 6 or 7 runs and the com. looks pretty shiny and the brushes are worn a little and i think it is fine for now. Do you know how much will riders charge if i pay them to cut my com.? By the way, i asked riders when they will start racing and they said they will have their first race 1 week from this upcoming saturday (April 10th)

[Lapster]

At about 6 runs or so you will start to get little dings in your comm, making it chip. It will run for about 15 batteries without a cut, but you will severly hurt the motor. It is better to do a bunch of small cuts rather than one big one. I think Riders charges like 3-5$.

[tarvymoto]

Does anyone know what degree rear hubs does the B4 come with stock? THANKS

[jnegrx]

I need some help. I will race in the stock class for the first time with my B4 and was wondering what pinion and spur you guys use. The motor is a Team Orion Core stock.
Any help would be appreciated.

[Lapster]

In stock I run a 24/81 with a fantom monster horsepower.

[speedydave]

Stick with the stock spur. Gearing depends on the size of your track. If it has a lot of tight, technical sections, start with a smaller pinion. If it's pretty wide open and high speed, start with a slightly larger pinion. You should probably have a small range of pinions for experimentation, since experimentation is usually how people find the right gearing for their motor and track. If your track is very tight and technical I'd say start with a 22 tooth pinion and the stock spur, medium size I'd say ~23 tooth, and larger 23 or 24 tooth. I ran a Trinity P2k (very torquey motor, not much top end though) and had tons of torque and respectable top end with a 24 tooth pinion on a mid-large (for stock racing) track.

[Lapster]

Wow... a 24t pinion with a P2k? Sometimes I run 26t pinions on a pretty small track... motor temp is right around 140-150. The MHP's should actually be geared at about 23/81. I was running a a super hard brush. (Com had no cuts left)


But everyone needs to go buy a FT B4 NOW. As most of you should know, Dave Montgomery made the sitch over to AE and has his FT B4 now. That thing looks awesome with the motor plate and all the other cool stuff. His only reccomendation was to get a plactic chassis. The graphite makes it feel way to twitchy.

Talk to you all's later...

[speedydave]

My B4's damn near FT already. All I need is the graphite kit, drilled front axles (for buttonhead screws instead of nuts), and, um...the motor plate I think is the only other thing. :o

AE recommends starting at a 24t pinion with a high torque motor, and I usually start at the AE recommendation for my gearing. The motor wasn't that hot, I could clear the triple consistently, and I had enough torque and top end, so I just left it as-is. I finished 2nd the whole day...would have been first if I crashed one less time. :rolleyes:

[HPI-Fan-4-Ever]

i'm sure this has been asked hundreds of times, but what can i do so my B4 doesn't nose-dive so much? i tried various springs in the front and back and i can't seem to get it right...can someone help?

[jnegrx]

Don't let go of the throtle until the end of the jump. Also hit the throtle when in the air so the front end lifts. If it then jumps nose high a little tap of the breakes will bring the nose down. Also check if it's bottoming in the rear as you enter the jump, if it's bottoming out then you have to play with the oil in the shock. What shock oil do you use? Also what number piston are you using?

[HPI-Fan-4-Ever]

the shocks are stock except i have some medium springs in the rear and some slightly hard springs in the front....

[Breakin2]

I'm planning on racing my B4 soon. I bought the RTR version, but I've hoped up a lot of parts on it, including the receiver, motor, servo, and ESC. However, I haven't touched the tires yet. What are good tires for both the front and back wheels if the track is hard packed? Thanks.

[Lapster]

is it like a clay track. Or is it hard packed dirt with a layer of stuff on top? If it is clay I would run holeshots or evil twins in the R3 compound. For the front I would run losi 3 rib pre-scrubs in the front. For dirt I would run Losi red X-2000's and silver wide bodies.


But, I mwould call the trck and ask before you buy anything.

[Gmanlusk2004]

i run fuzzies in the rear, w/ red springs and i run the stock springs up front. and no swaybar. it works for me!

[Breakin2]

The track is hard packed dirt. They water it down every so many races to keep it in good shape.

[Lapster]

Thats just how my track is. But it has the dirt that gets kicked up. We sweep and water in between every heat. I mainly run x's and 3 ribs or wide bodies.

[nmt6789]

Can someone suggest to me a good servo for racing??

[colinradford]

What's your budget? Hitec HS625MG is great for the price. Futaba S9204 is double the price or so but is better quality.

[Lapster]

Hands down, I think the Airtronics 94357 is the best for a buggy. But it is pricy at 105$.

[tarvymoto]

I just put a Futaba S9550 in mine.

[pipdango]

What is a good LEGAL stock motor that has a good mix of torque and rmp for the b4 and what kind of pinion?

[Lapster]

Trinity P2k's and Monster Horsepowers will be fine. P2k's will have a little more rip and not as much top end. The MHP's will have more top end and less low end. Either choice has plenty of low end and speed though. Personally I like the MHP's better... but I use trinity 4499 E brushes and blue/green springs.

[BrushlessHawaii]

My B4 Has a slight noise in Take off.

When Ever you squeeze the throttle the car makes a weird almost grinding buzzing noise.

I checked the Pinion spur Mesh and Ran a piece of paper though it just like your supposed to. then I tore the tranny apart to check and everything looked good but for safety sake I added more Lube. And it's still making this almost buzzing like grinding noise only for a brief second when ever you let off and take off again or from a dead stop but at speeds it's perfectly fine. - Could It be the motor? or What? Anyone ideas?

[HPI-Fan-4-Ever]

Brushless:

mine does this too, sometimes it'll last a few seconds after take off, I believe it's just noise is all, cuz I have checked mine and everything, I just bought a Losi pinion gear and its noisier than the Team Associated one! :eek:

[colinradford]

Could be the diff is a bit too loose.

[Lapster]

Check the CVD pins and wheel pins to make sure they are secure.

[microrcdude]

Im getting a factory team B4. What should i get (parts) with it?

[Breakin2]

I bought an RTR B4, but now I'm upgrading most of it. I got a new KO Propo FET servo and want to know where I can get a mount for it. The RTR servo is cheap and the mount that came with it seems equally cheap.

[microrcdude]

Use these:
http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXGHA2&P=Z

[Breakin2]

Thank you very much!

[microrcdude]

Hey, what body is everyone runnin?

[gs_storm2003]

well after years of being out of electric racing I am back in. I just got a B4 RTR of ebay NIB for $160 the guy had 4 of them up I would have bought them all if I could have anyway I have already bought the cvd's for it I am looking at the complete carbon set for the buggy on ebay at $50 is it worth it?

[RustlerBoy]

Try the epic Binary motor.

Anyone got any hot mods for the B4/T4? I run them both now and like to tinker.....
and yes... it is well worth it... the chassis alone is about 30 bucks

[gs_storm2003]

thanks I will see if I can still find it after that my car should be just as good if not better than the team version right?

[colten33]

Hey guys, I just bought a b4 kit and built it and put all of my electronics in it and now I'm having some sort of glitching problem. The battery that I currently have is a peice of crap and its pretty old and used. I just bought a brand new ESC and it has the tamiya connectors on it as does my battery, but everytime the battery is plugged in, the ESC will turn off, but if i mess around with the connector and wires it willl turn back on, but then when I try and accelerate it just turns back off again...and the whole process goes over again. What should I do? I was thinking just to put deans connectors all around? Would that help or is this something major?


Thanks

[colten33]

Well, I took the car to my lhs and it was an easy fix.

[microrcdude]

good to hear your LHS took care of it! do you like your B4? what do you think of it?

[colten33]

I love my b4 alot. I'm new to electric but I've learned SO much already and I'm still learning. I used to have a HPI Nitro MT and wow is it way different than a 2wd buggy! The buggy is much quicker and more sensitive than the 4wd truck, which means it will be harder to drive but its worth it since its the class I want to race. Well thanks for the input.


Colten33 :)

[microrcdude]

great to hear you like it!

Well, just lost the money for my B4. i broke my finger. tore me tendon, and broke my growth plate.

[colten33]

Ouch.. what did you do..lol! That sucks that theres no money for the b4 now hehe. :)

[beer_drinker]

I'm seriously considering buying the Factory Team chassis, but i just need to know if it supports stick packs.

Thanks

[colinradford]

Yes, it does support stick packs.

[Simen123]

Hi guys,
I jus won a B4 NIB for 139$ on eBay, and I was wondering, what are the handling differences between this one and the B3?
I have a B3FT that I have been racing a bit, so it would be nice if you could point out any differences :)
thanks,
Simen

[microrcdude]

I have a b3.When i drove a B4, i could tell just how much smoother this was compaired to the B3. It accelerates, hadles, and drives so much better than the B3. they say if you can keep up to the leaders with a B3, you can TQ' and win with a B4.

[Simen123]

Thanks,
Sounds good :)

[microrcdude]

its a great car. I just cant wait until my new kit comes!

[microrcdude]

j/w, but are the threaded shocks any better than the "team" shocks?

[colinradford]

The threaded shocks offer no performance difference to the Team shocks, they do make it easier to adjust the preload though.

[RustlerBoy]

yeah, they do look cool though... but other than that, they just help out in the adjustment department.....

[RCisLife]

Hello, Does anyone have any fresh new bodies (with or without wing) for sale?

I'm looking for one. Thanks.

[microrcdude]

what kind of paintjob are you looking for?

[RustlerBoy]

I got one, no wing. where do you live... (state wise)

[gs_storm2003]

I just got a rtr b4 I am pulling out the 17T reedy motor and putting in a trinity monster stock. the buggy is still like it came in the box I am not sure of what pinion it has in it now but I wanted to know if anyone could tell me what pinion to run on an average size track

[microrcdude]

i think its 21. ill check though

[microrcdude]

its 24

[microrcdude]

^^^ My bad. After looking in RCCA, it has a 23 tooth pinion. I would get say a 21 for bashing. Not sure though.

[gs_storm2003]

thanks guys I pulled it today it was a 23,I put a 21 in it for a race today(with the trinity monster stock) and it was ok I will have to get some more and experiment with the different sizes

[microrcdude]

good idea. I know for tight corses to use a 21/78 setup. Thats what the ticket is here.

[microrcdude]

I have decited to get dad in this great hobby. With $215 of my b-day money, i am buying my dad a RTR B4. I cant believe im doing this. And to think what hes gonna do when he sees it. LOL he still has to buy a battery and charger.

[microrcdude]

^^^ forget that post.

[microrcdude]

Ok everyone! My B4 will be ordered tomarrow. If you want, i can post some progress pics of the car as i get farther.

[microrcdude]

well, I just dont get it! Man, when i didnt have a B4, I couldnt even keep up with this thread! Now, all i have to do is read my own post.

But, its good. Ill post pics of my car for those who want them.

[RustlerBoy]

I know!! nO one posts anymore!!

[colinradford]

Everybody is probably over at www.rc10b4.com

[microrcdude]

ya, but they will make fun of my budget equipment and crappy 1 color paint job

[colinradford]

ya, but they will make fun of my budget equipment and crappy 1 color paint job

I doubt it, I think everybody starts out that way, I know I did with my crappy 1 colour/cheap electrics Traxxas Bandit!

[microrcdude]

lol my brother has a bandit. My B4 should be here any minute according to fed-ex so im real exited!

[Simen123]

Finally finished with building my new B4 buggy :D
Here is a picture:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v212/Simen123/2004-10-09001.jpg

[colinradford]

Nice, how did you do the splattery effect?

Seems a bit strange having "Kinwald" on an Associated!

[microrcdude]

well, my B4 is all built, so i should be posting a pic sometime tomarrow

[Simen123]

Thanks :)
For the "splat"-effect I dippet a ballpoint pen in some pink Parma Faskolor and threw it on :)
About the sticker, I wanted something yellow in there, so I put it on :) I`ve got some blue shock spacers on order, from Trinity, that I believe are Team Kinwald though :D

[colinradford]

Thanks :)
For the "splat"-effect I dippet a ballpoint pen in some pink Parma Faskolor and threw it on :)


I like the effect, I think I'll give it a try next time I paint a body.

Your B4 looks a bit clean, time to go out and get it dirty!

[RustlerBoy]

Sweet.... anyone know wher to mount a transponder in the B4?

[RCisLife]

People at the track where I race (SoCalRaceway) usually mount their transponder on top of the their servo. I need to invest in one of those, how much did you pay for yours and where did you get it?

[colinradford]

The "drill a hole in the windscreen" method works for me!

http://zarj.cwgsy.net/gallery/RC10B4/26062004_001

[microrcdude]

i think hes talking about the personal transponders. They are avalable here: http://www.amb-it.com/amb.asp

[beetlebz]

so not to interrupt the hot transponder chat, but.... :P

im going to switch from nitro to electric soon i think, just for a little variety. the downside is, i have to buy a FTB4, radio, charger, and batteries (i have none of it being my first electric) oh, and an ESC. i THINK ive decided to stick to a stock motor.

so basically what im getting at, is what ESCs and motors have you guys been running in your B4s and what ESCs have been working out well?

i might just get the RTR B4 to make the transition as cheap as possible, but god knows i spoiled myself with my GT :D

[colinradford]

basically what im getting at, is what ESCs and motors have you guys been running in your B4s and what ESCs have been working out well?


I use a LRP Quantum 2 and Reedy Kr 14 turn. The ESC is nice, but to be honest I don't notice much difference between the different types. Easy to program though and the different modes do make a difference, it is also small and waterproof. The Kr motors are very, very nice bits of kit! I run one in TC too.

I used to use a Novak Dually which is half the price of the Quantum and also has no motor limit, hard to beat for the price.

[nicholcgn]

Assuming that you may be keeping the radio from the other car I would not suggest the rtr. You can get a kit for the $150-$160 range. Then purchase a decent no motor limit esc. I have a dually but went brushless. I will probably get rid of my dually soon but it is great for the price. I am sure LRP has something close. Look used on ebay if you need to. I know novak has a repair system that is a flat fee so if you get it cheap enough it is worth the chance. Motors depends on the track you will run at. I like the Monster Stock series. They seem pretty good. If you are going to race check the local track people.

[beetlebz]

nope, no radio no nothing. im starting from the ground up with this one. all new, right down to the body clips. i was thinking RTR because i can swap out the parts with better ones as the funds become available, but in the mean time to get rolling i can get most everything i need for 500 bucks. actually, everything i need period, minus a discharger.

dont forget i dont have any packs or a charger for them :)

[colten33]

Ok guys, My B4 is great, except that I just recieved the new issue of RC car action (December) and I was reading the review on the new Trinity Spyder. WOW! That thing is awesome looking and it is 1/7 scale...lol pretty gigantic. Well, I just might have to get that beast, but I just put about $600 into my B4..lol.



Dont you hate that when you buy a new RC car that you were hooked on for awhile, then something brand new comes out and your like... "Ahh man, I shouldnt have bought this because now I want this one!"

LoL, well keep racing!

[microrcdude]

well, im big on racing, and not really a fan on MT's, so i havent spotted cars i want yet. But, anything i find goes on that wish list on tower!

[microrcdude]

nope, no radio no nothing. im starting from the ground up with this one. all new, right down to the body clips. i was thinking RTR because i can swap out the parts with better ones as the funds become available, but in the mean time to get rolling i can get most everything i need for 500 bucks. actually, everything i need period, minus a discharger.

dont forget i dont have any packs or a charger for them :)
Since you got a pretty big budget, i reccomend getting a charger that will last a while. Here is the digital pirahana by duratrax: http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXCLD5&P=ML
Heres the RTR B4: http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXFBD5&P=7
Heres what i reccomend to every basher: http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXGFH7&P=ML
http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXGEZ7&P=7
also, what i would do, is get some tires for the street. that way you dont burn up your race tires: http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXEMF0&P=7 http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXDU05&P=7 http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXDU04&P=7 http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXEAK8&P=0
For batteries, get Jax Packs. He sells assembled 3300's and i love them! Also, the price is good too! only $35 plus shipping. Any more ?????

[RAYMAN1OO7]

i got a b4 finally. ever since it came out, i wanted one so bad. well its my last rc car for a long time, ive got too much money tied up into these things. i gotta finish paying off my jeep. then after that, i want to do a few more things wth my honda prelude, then start doing mods to the jeep, 4" lift, 1" body lift, SYE kit, rear driveshaft, different gearing, stronger axles, borla SS header and catback exhaust, weber performance carb, and hurst shifter and that should be it for the jeep :)

well heres my b4, as soon as i get more money, im gonna get a novak esc, either the explorer II or the fusion, a pk2 motor and a airtronics blazer radio. it has no rear right shock because one of the shock bodies i got was bad, so i called up AE and they are sending me a new one no problem, i love AE, they are IMO the best rc company out there :)

well ill post up a pic of the buggy later, but heres the shock body. it isnt cracked, its just a defect in the casting.

[microrcdude]

I agree with the best RC company. They are so great with their product support, and they make such great stuff. Plus, they put my car on their site!

[RAYMAN1OO7]

ok here she is :) i only did a one color paint job because thats what i thought would look best, and im happy with it, i like this color. i painted the hpi dodge ram on my t-maxx 2.5 this color too. ill put stickers on it, like proline, novak electronics, AE etc. to its not so plain. theres nothing like a brand enw rc body, its so perfetly shiny after you take the protective film off, you dont even want to touch it, because once there are finger prints, its never the same as it was brand new lol :)

hopefully tomorrow my shock body comes in.i think i called them tues, and now its friday, maybe it will come tomorrow.

[RAYMAN1OO7]

last one :)

[microrcdude]

OMG my car is the same color! Only diff is my wing is clear.

[RAYMAN1OO7]

haha, thats sweet :) i love that color. i thought it would look good with the white wheels and the black compoite car, it all blends together and looks good IMO

[microrcdude]

Ya. My B4 is on the AE site if anyone wanted to know. (Im so proud of that fact)

[microrcdude]

http://tinypic.com/d8mqf Theres my beauty

[lextek]

I just ordered a team B4. I've recently got hooked on RC cars. A Revo, Xray M-18Mini-t and RC10T4. All I need is a nitro buggy and a Touring Car(Associated TC4???)

[microrcdude]

The TC4 is good for racing, but not so good for bashing.

[LearjetMinako]

Just to let you guys/gals know now, theres another fan of the B4 on the way. I recently order a B4 FT and should be getting it soon. I'll be hooking it up w/ Novak SS5800 and JR XS3 equipment. I should actually say that I'm a AE fan, got too many of there cars. (T3 RTR, TC3 Racer, GT FT). One of the reason for moving to buggy is that its a popular class and I miss my T3. Off-road electric was fun and is definitely a lot cleaner than nitro.

[microrcdude]

Welcome! It seems ever since a few of us got B4's, most are falling into the B4 craze also! But it sounds like you have a fun project! And this car IMO is soooooooooo much better than the T3

[LearjetMinako]

Well, got my B4 FT all put together. Everything tuned-in, went together w/o a major problem. Only thing I found wrong, the kit was missing one screw for the motor guard. But besides that, w/ the Novak SS5800 on a 22t, it whips around the house like nothing. Steering is awasome on this little buggy. Quick and responsive, plus sharp turing. Only problem, I wish it would stop raining. Been raining for 6days straight. Strange weather but its gotta clear up soon, then I can really let her rip. :cool:

[microrcdude]

Ya, you will like the B4. I Love it myself, and i wouldnt get anything else but a B4 FT(I have a team kit)

[Fluke]

geez,it's been a long time since i posted in this thread!

microrcdude:You remind me how my b4 was when it was new:shiny and clean.now it's all cracked and torn but now it got a story.;)

[microrcdude]

Uh, drove it last weekend. The chassis looks like it got in a fight with a cheeze grader.

[LearjetMinako]

I finally got the body done. It was a first for me w/ a different techinqe, but it came out pretty good. Finally found a little time between rain storms to drive the B4 at a park. All the trees had droped their leaves and I raged choas through them. Leaves flying out the rear and the B4 going under them was also cool. I had a blast. Still need to test drive it on real dirt in order to tweak the suspension. Heres a pic of what she looks like. Simen123, thanks for the idea of the "splat-effect". :D

[LearjetMinako]

last pic from the rear.

[microrcdude]

Nice buggy Jet! Love the body! You got the FT version right? How do you like the BL in it?

[LearjetMinako]

The Novak SS5800 gives the little buggy lots of speed than a stock motor. At first w/ a 22t pinion, accleration was a bit slow and I thought that my BL motor was going. Changed it to a 20t pinion, now it flys across the yard and through the streets w/ ease. Run times are good too. 9mins on a 2500mah stick pack. The BL in the TC3 on the same pack was 16mins. Its a good match. Can't wait till race season starts in the first week of April. :cool:

And tell the weatherman to forecast sunshine. All this rain is really tearing into R/C driving time. :(

[microrcdude]

I hate the weather here. Im thinking of moving to cali, they got good tracks and good weather.

[LearjetMinako]

Yep, CA. has it all. Nice land, wide open, and all the race events you can shake your race oppents down on. Even thou, where I live, theres two interstates that goes north & south (I-35), east & west (I-40). Not too many race events here. Enid raceway is the biggest race track we got in OK. Next to that is Comp. R/C, Action R/C, and another one on I-35, just north of OKC (been there once, haven't raced there, yet!). And yet again, the weatherman screwed up and forgot to mention more rain w/ a good possablity of roads freezing over night. Nice for drifting, not good for traveling on when going to work. :eek:

Enid Raceway (http://www.enidrcraceing.com)

[microrcdude]

Roads freezing? Break out the studs, ICE RACING TIME!

[BrushlessHawaii]

I've started Racing my b4 at our new local indoor dirt track and love it. I had a Kr 14 Double in it with a 18 tooth Pinion and it proved to be way too much motor for the track. So I dropped to a stock motor and a 22 Tooth pinion and it still freaking flys. So saturday night I was bored and decided to go to the track and run oval with it. I adjusted the suspension (it was sitting crazy) but damn was it glued to the track I was amazed and so was everyone else i talked to. My b4 running oval and glued to the track - W.T.F. LOL - I'm so happy with my b4 now I can race 2 nights a week with the same car. I just gotta write down how it's set up for oval before I change it back friday night for Offroad. I Was in First in the A-Main with it until a turn marshall moved and stepped back and I swerved to miss him and pulled a dale earnhardt into the wall full throttle and broke my front lower arm :( would have been cool to win my first oval race ever and do it with a B4 buggy. LOL

[BrushlessHawaii]

heres my buggy