HB Lightning RR Forum v3.0 [Archive] - Page 3

CRSMP5

04-02-2004, 12:02 PM

ice rock was trying to sell pro2 on ebay a month ago for 375+shipping.. how i got my pro2 from a LHS for 390+tax... 450 is pretty high figuring non esold from icerock for 375... just so ya know..

and they just edited out post.. the v2 thread will be listed a few lines down much like the v1 thread also still exists.. so NO info is lost.. its just not as prominenate to find.. BUT i ask this.. with a v3 thread why not have our own little main page thread :rolleyes: it only took a little over 6 months to go from v2 to v3 :eek:

kyoshofan420

04-02-2004, 03:10 PM

I think the included engine is ok like charlesd said. It has about 1.9 horsepower and should be able to hang with faster engines on a tight course. On a more open course, you probably will get taken on the straights. I am still using the included engine, but I think I will step up to a Hyper .21 8port race later down the line, since the track I race at will be getting bigger. Kekekek, if you buy a lightning, you will probably be better off getting the Pro version, because it will save on the cost of hop-ups. Good luck with your decision :)

CRSMP5

04-02-2004, 11:12 PM

i was running a broken well cracked 21bb in my pro and running .03 sec behind a os vbz one.. driving skill would be as close as i would want.. so it was not driving skill aka his worse than mine.. that kept me up with him.. they run strong.. i ran a 14t cb on it..

i have a hpi s-25 in mine at the moment and and running very nice with it..

it is a great engine to learn the buggy with..

NitroBoy24

04-03-2004, 03:24 AM

I am looking at getting another r/c since I will have $120 extra dollars on my hands by may so I am looking at getting a HB Lightning..

From what I have heard I will be better off getting the Lightning Pro (1st one) since the hopups to price ratio is good. What steering servo would you recommend for a basher that might race once in a while? I was thinking that buying an MX3 and then a new steering servo would be a decent deal, but I dont know much about the high torque servos used in 1/8 scale buggies. If all goes well I might have a lightning pro by the end of my freshman year!

CRSMP5

04-03-2004, 11:06 AM

any metal geared servo like a hitech 645 will work nice..

NitroBoy24

04-03-2004, 02:03 PM

Woops totally forgot to ask this question.

What parts are notorious for breaking on the lightning pro-1? Just want to know if I do decide to get it because then I will stock up on the parts when I order it from tower since my lhs more then likely wont have parts for it.

Man if only AE released a 1/8 buggy, I would be all over that since my lhs would have parts for it like my gt!

Ferrari_Spyder

04-03-2004, 06:53 PM

you could always buy another pro1 as a parts car! you can sell the engine/pipe for atleast $70 on ebay and the tires/rims for another $30

think about it: $190 for all the parts you would ever need and more

charlesd

04-04-2004, 04:06 PM

That's what i did. I bought a second hb pro off of ebay. One with no engine but the guy already had spare parts.

I've got everything that i could possibly need.

By the way, the wing mount and wing are very fragile. The rest is rock solid.

In one summer i broke the wing mount on the right side, and 1 screw that holds the knuckle came loose. That's it and i had some pretty bad crashes and run ins.

CRSMP5

04-04-2004, 06:30 PM

wing mounts, a set of c hubs, and the plastic suspention mounts.. in all 15$ in parts..

my pro 1 roller is still forsale.. LOL.. and comes with lots of spare parts.. but since i sold my menace, i dont have to sell it now.. i could do a truccy with it.. have not decide.. i do have a ofna 2 speed id like to put in one :cool:

CRSMP5

04-04-2004, 06:32 PM

also.. the stock tires i find to some of th ebest there is.. so dont sell them.. try them out 1st..

and i do not think there is anywhere else selling pro1 on the web for under 335$.. i know where 2 sit on shelves though.. but they have the 335 price..

cbr74

04-05-2004, 03:35 AM

That's still not a bad deal. I paid $335 for my LP way back when and have no regrets in doing so.

Wakegod

04-05-2004, 04:40 AM

I having major problems with my kit 21bb engine. I can't for the life of me get it to idle anymore, or run for any sustained period of time to be honest. I have 1 gallon of nitro through it max. I think my problem lies in carburation, but I'm not sure, I've dissassembled the card completely twice and cleaned it, but I have noticed a couple quirks. Every now and then the low speed needle sleeve just locks up and won't move. I have to completely back out the low speed needle and the idle screw to free it up. I think something may be slightly tweaked or bent, but I can't figure out how or why. Once it seized so bad I stripped my FMA metal gear servo. Anyway, I've reset my needles back to factory several times, switched glow plugs (Mccoy 9's) a couple times, broke my pullstart, switched my 1/10 starter box to 1/8 to accommadate my buggy and I still can't get it to run.

It ran relatively well all last summer, the only complaint I've ever had was it has always been hard to restart when hot. It ran awesome in January on the ice/snow down my street. It even ran fairly decent the last time I went out bashing last week, but it started acting up, I tried in vain to cure it and eventually busted the pull start.
I spent all afternoon today trying to figure this thing out. It does start on the starter box, but it won't stay running unless I rev it to midrange, if I try to let it idle it dies, or if I rev it to the high end needle it dies. I have the idle set as high as it will go, but it still isn't enough to keep it running. Other than my idea of switching to a hotter plug, does anyone out there have any suggestions?

Think my engine is toast?
How much is a new carb?

charlesd

04-05-2004, 06:00 AM

I would beleive the carb to be toast since you seem not to be getting any response with needle changes. (Also take time to re-seal your engine).

Look on ebay for an Hpi Savage Carb or a Hot bodies Carb. The hpi savage 21 engine is the same engine as the HotBodies .21.

I've seen carb's go as low as 15$. Some have buy it now at 40.

luvmypro

04-05-2004, 10:57 AM

So, this weekend I bought the new pro 2. WOW. I love this thing. The rpo 1 was really nice, but the sharper turning is a huge difference. Doesn't flip as easy. Just kinda seems more manuverable. I took my Picco 26 from my old one and threw in it, Hi Tech 645 for the steering and Hi tech high speed for the throttle. Petty responsive. I only ran it for about 10 minutes so far, but very impressed in the handling.

If anyone is looking for a used Pro1, I'm selling mine (w/out motor). It has all new arms, savage gears in the diffs, new center diff, new tank with new spare, roto start, Futaba Controller/Reciever, JR Racing 590 High Torque Steering Servo, JR Racing 270 Throttle Servo. New Engine Plate & Mount, New Wing Mount, Newly Rebuilt Shocks,New Tires, A set of Savage tires on rims that mount up on it, a set of street tires/rims (worn a bit), old set of arms (still in good shape), new hinge pins, a ton of stuff. It's in really good shape, sme cosmetic scratches, but was a great runner. It's at Browns on the shelf now. I want $330 for it. If interested throw me an Email. Thanks
rtournay2000@yahoo.com

Ferrari_Spyder

04-05-2004, 04:11 PM

im having problems with the carb too.

the low-speed needle fell out completely when i was setting the needles all the way-in and back them out the right amount of turns to get them to factory settings. the problem was when i screwed the low-speed needle all the way, and the mid-speed needle as well, i got them stuck together somehow and screwing the low-speed needle would mess up the mid-speed needle. i assume i was supposed to back them in and out one at a time and not mess with the midspeed needle at all. so i got them unstuck and i backed them out so both screws were even with the needle-body-doohickey. i opened and closed the throttle and when i closed it back to idle, it would still get a little stuck together. i then somehow managed to spin the low-speed needle so neither side had an opening. i spun it back, and quite easily...too easily. in the process of all this opening,closing, and spinning that is when the neede fell off completely. is this thing going to pop out or spin around on me when i run it. am i screwed? (no pun intended) also if its fine one side of the opening has a little groove...does this face the fuel or air?

Ferrari_Spyder

04-05-2004, 07:08 PM

E0404 Wing Stay: X5 9.99 8.49
E0405 Wing Stay Brace: X5 6.99 5.94

okay which one of these??? whats the diference :confused:

CRSMP5

04-05-2004, 07:26 PM

fs what wingstay is that?????????????

carb issues.. i have a good used carb.. 10$ shipped..

sounds liek a air leak on the 1st one..

fs your car you had the LSN too lean and is stuck.. give gentil tug and get it unstuck..

i had mine at browns 2 weeks ago.. came in 2nd in buggy with front lawn track.. there was liek 11 of us.. im still running my s-25 in it.. no need for more power on front lawn track..

also the last pro off the shelf had a 8 port in it sat fo ra few weeks till someone picked it up for 300.. same weekend i got my lp2.. how much he sell it to u for? i got mine 390+tax...

Ferrari_Spyder

04-05-2004, 07:58 PM

fs what wingstay is that?????????????
those are the mugen ones but i dont know which is what

fs your car you had the LSN too lean and is stuck.. give gentil tug and get it unstuck..
its quite unstuck and can come right out altogether of the whole carb with a slight tug. is this normal? i dont want to lose the LSN and have 3 pounds of dirt run through my engine, i just want to make sure if this is normal?

so i got 4 minutes to call up nitrohouse if i want to order stuff today

edit: figured out the online paypal thing but i still need to know the wing thing by tonight

RCILaser

04-05-2004, 11:13 PM

ICU are impressed with the new Pro2 . The handling is quite an improvement over the old one I have been running my now for about five or six weeks. Thought I had a fuel tank problem, but it turned out it was my fuel line routing had a short pressure line and a long fuel line. Change the lines around and the thing works fine. last Saturday, I break a rear shock shaft but luckily, I had just received a big shipment of Pro2 replacement parts Hot Bodies is doing better about getting replacement parts for their dealers. Someone was asking about the new differential gears, the new hardened ones are great. mind being built my differential. last week I rebuilt my diff there was no metallic in the oil. new gears fit much better. If someone would want to change their Pro1, they should get the new Pro2 gears . good luck with your new car

CRSMP5

04-06-2004, 06:16 AM

fs ive never taken the time to get the wing mount part # so no idea.. why not ask guy who posted after you and before me if he has any lp2 wingstays...

luvmypro

04-06-2004, 01:09 PM

yeah, I am very impressed with it. At first when they came out there didn't seem to be a big difference. But the handling is a complete different car. My old L1 had Savage gears in the diffs. Anything that I should change on the L2? It killed me to get it dirty. Another cool thing over the L1 was taking off the electronics to hose it down. the L2 you only have to take the screws out of the servo horns, take the first four screws off of the top plate mount posts, and unscrew the battery box from undernerneath. My old L1 I had to take everything out of the servo box, unhook wires...a pain in da butt. But this one is with ease.

I also bought those craddock brakes, I haven't put them on yet, only because this thing stops on a dime, so what's the big deal with these things? They would be cool when it comes time to needing new brakes, but I didn't see the sense in replacing them yet...unless someone can give me a good reason. (you don't have to twist my arm to work on my car :D )

cbr74

04-06-2004, 01:45 PM

CRSMP5

04-06-2004, 07:17 PM

i have yet to strip my lp2.. i love it.. soon or a later ill do somethign with lookign at that stuff....

im also not running th eoriginal body.. im waiting till after i get some cler replacemennts.. but a pro1 bod will fit if you clerance it for the sterign link and thj gravel shields are shaped diferently..

RCILaser

04-06-2004, 07:23 PM

A nother advantage for using the brakes , is that you will not have your brakes fading towards the end of a long main and if someone splashes fuel on them, it does not affect them. You only need one disk in front and one in the rear and that will give you all are stopping you need.

luvmypro

04-07-2004, 08:38 AM

Would it convince you... if I said that 4 Cradock brake disks weigh less than just 1 stock disk? And you no longer need brake pads. (one less thing to worry about)
I was running quad stock brakes... then switched to quad Cradocks (overkill BTW, you only need singles) and could FEEL the difference in acceleration from the loss of rotating mass.

Ok, so last night I switched the brakes to craddock brakes. A question I have. I had to take off the plastic things that hookup under the discs. You know, those things that the discs ride in to keep them straight. I didn't want to modify them just yet incase I decided to go back to stock. But should I put them (the plastic things that the discs ride in) back on and modify them or leave them off totally???
Another question I have...I didn't run quad brakes,only the stock setup... how much play should I have after I tighten up the two screws that hold the calipers in? Mine are tight enough to not have hardly any play (barely noticable) but lose enough for the diff to spin freely (but the caliper is touching the disc slightly). Yes, I did take the pads off. I'm just having a hard time getting them adjusted right. I have great brakes in the front, but the back seem to not want to adjust as well and I can't seem to get the rears to lock up. HELPPPPPP. :confused:

cbr74

04-07-2004, 12:53 PM

I took the guides off and left them off. They aren't really needed with the Cradocks.

The brake assembly is much lower profile with the Cradock brakes and no pads so you may need to use screws with a shorter collar length in order to be able to tighten them down enough.

luvmypro

04-07-2004, 02:45 PM

Do I have to use screws witha collar? Can I just use regular screws that are a little shorter? or do I really need to use ones with collars? Where can I get replacement parts for my L2? My LHS doesn't carry them yet. I already snapped my wing lastnight...very fragile. 1 cartwheel and SNAP! :eek: But if that's all that broke, I'm ok with that.

cbr74

04-07-2004, 03:35 PM

I prefer collared screws because it allows the calipers to slide freely and not get bound up.

Any 1/8 scale buggy wing will work. Just grab whatever they have.

brokenzipper

04-07-2004, 06:38 PM

where can i get these craddock brakes at online. tried ebay but i coundnt find notta.

cbr74

04-07-2004, 06:45 PM

RcBoyz can get them.. they are Racer's Edge part # RE C010.
Shoot 'em an e-mail: sales@rcboyz.com

CRSMP5

04-08-2004, 12:14 AM

RobertH

04-08-2004, 09:54 AM

When it comes to adjusting caster on the Lightning Pro 1, someone said you can use Kyosho caster blocks. Has any one tried this? I also can't find any Kyosho caster blocks on tower. Where can I find these things?

RCILaser

04-08-2004, 12:07 PM

Atomic Motorsports has them online www. atomicmotorsports.com they are nine dollars a pair

Robert , you can adjust castor by changing the A and B blocks That will give you 3Deg more caster If you need more you will have to change it over to a PRO2 front end

luvmypro

04-09-2004, 11:38 AM

the lp1 wing fits no problem.. i took my black wing off.. cause try to find one.. LOL.. i love the black wing.. and will save it for photos till i can get replacement black wings..

also dont forget to BOIL the wing for like 5-10 min.. makes it softer..

I should have thought about the wing thing. I broke mine the other night. Can't find a replacement. All I want is a black wing. Any ideas???

CRSMP5

04-09-2004, 12:07 PM

i have a yellow wing i tried to dye black turned into a blackish brown.. but thats the best i could seem to do.. you could try a white wing and dye it.. or wait for browns to get black ones in.. the rtr2 also has a black wing.. if ya have not looked at the parts list in the back of the book.. also.. should give browns the part #s for stuff like that.. he seems to have the best luck getting that kinda stuff.. i want some clear pro 2 bodies in the worst way... i still have not used mine an dwill save it for originality..

gr8taz nitro

04-10-2004, 12:18 AM

If you want a black wing, why not order one from hobby people. The X-Terminator Deluxe has black wheels and a black wing and as far as I know they're in stock.

http://www.hobbypeople.net/gallery/149522.asp

Ferrari_Spyder

04-10-2004, 02:52 PM

hey ive got a question:

when i was putting my differencials back together and looking at the manual i realized i didn't have the differencial pads? am i supposed to? they never came with the car and i have been running the whole time whithout them - is this going to hurt something?

2000zr

04-10-2004, 07:20 PM

F/S

Look inside the bevel gear. It's there I think we all missed them the first time we took a diff apart

Ferrari_Spyder

04-10-2004, 07:58 PM

wow am i dumb:)

2000zr

04-11-2004, 08:53 PM

Just bought a K3 so my LP1 w Picco .26 f/r cvd's ball bearing steering Kyosho gears totally rebuilt fof the new season must go. Also have about 200.00 of new spare parts. If interested pm me and I will send you pics. 500.00

CRSMP5

04-12-2004, 11:44 AM

sounds like your a trator... :( so give some feedback.. why is the k3 better?

2000zr

04-12-2004, 06:49 PM

Have not run it yet, but after driving a friend of mine's just seemed to be a little more planted.

ThyHebrewHammer

04-13-2004, 03:27 PM

i have a real quick question, i am looking to get back into the hobby, i use to have a hpi mt, didn't do much racing, and that is why i am looking and the lightning rr. my question was how well would it compete at my local track, i am just gonna race for fun. maybe get a lil more competitive later.

luvmypro

04-13-2004, 04:56 PM

OK...I just bought another Lightning Pro 2. I'm thinking of parting it out on Ebay. But before I do, I want to make sure there is some kind of market for this. Anyone looking? Throw me an email. I only want to part it out because I need some parts, and right now this was the only way to do it. I couldn't find parts anywhere for mine. So, let me know if you're lookign for something. thanks :)

CRSMP5

04-13-2004, 05:00 PM

how much for the shocks..

brokenzipper

04-13-2004, 06:33 PM

Ya im up for shocks and other stuff. Put it all on ebay and ill do some bidding on alot of it. If i lose on the shocks anyone know where i can get some pro1 front shock shafts or better

CRSMP5

04-13-2004, 11:04 PM

RCILaser

04-14-2004, 11:59 AM

If you are looking for parts for the Pro1 or the Pro2 you need to go to my web site . I have just posted a parts list . I have quite a few Pro2 parts now in stock www.atomicmotorsports.com

luvmypro

04-14-2004, 12:12 PM

pro 1 front shock shafts same as rtr shock shafts.. browns has them on the wall.. and i have dibbs on the shocks.. and since he races at the same track as me ill give him cash sat for them..

also i want the 4mm motor mount plates to the chassis, tank and front upper brace for the bell cranks, radio box, mounts and deck.. and aluminum front suspention mounts and front cvds... so hook me up with a cost.. im goign to turn a pro1 into a pro2.. but with pro1 front suspention..

I'm waiting on the guy to ship it to me still. I should have it by Friday. If so, I will bring it with me Saturday. I also have to get rid of my Pro 1...ANYONE! It has JR racing Servos (High Torque for steering) Futaba Receiver/Controller. New Tires. All new Arms, roto start, no motor (I took it out for my other Pro 2). I would like to get $300, but I will consider other offers. It's in great shape, just some cosmetic scratches. I'll sale the whole car (the Pro 2) (except the Body & wing) for $350

ThyHebrewHammer

04-14-2004, 02:04 PM

so am i gonna get a reply to my post??? and does anyone know if the hardcore racing titanium parts for the mp 7.5 would fit the lightning

luvmypro

04-14-2004, 03:44 PM

Here is what I'm posting parts as on Ebay next week...
Front Diff (Hardened Gears) $28
Rear Diff (Hardened Gears) $28
Center Diff $34
Drive Shafts $30
Shocks (White Springs) $40
Chassis/Servo Tray $70 (Inludes Linkages)
Wing & Mount $18
Body $20
Tires/Rims $25
14T 3-shoe clutch $12
Front Shock Tower $24
Rear Shock Tower $24
Brake Set Up $12
Center Diff Mount/Guides $5
Alum Engine Plate $7
Engine Mount $5
Low Pro Receiver/Batt Box $15
Low Pro Fuel Tank $10
Front End Assembly $60 (this will include the arms,hinge pins,knuckles,sway bar, bell crank..no diff or shock tower)
Rear End Assembly $45 (Includes Arms,Knuckles,Sway Bar, Hinge Pins, No Shock tower, diff or wing mount)

+ shipping on all

NitroLightning

04-15-2004, 05:19 PM

so am i gonna get a reply to my post??? and does anyone know if the hardcore racing titanium parts for the mp 7.5 would fit the lightning
One of the guys posting on here raced his last season and was winning. I cant remember what kind of modifications he made if any. I believe that you can find his posts early on in version 2 of this thread. I am not sure about the titanium parts being an exact fit. But i would give the company or distributer a call and find out. A lot of parts are compatable between the two cars.

NitroLightning

04-15-2004, 05:22 PM

Does anyone know if this is an exact fit onto the LP1's Deck Wing Holder?
http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXCWA2&P=Z

CRSMP5

04-18-2004, 12:19 AM

i got a ofna 2 speed installed into a lp1 :) well figured it out t least.. it requires 2 front drive shafts, the 2 speed is longer then stock, i still have to work on engine mounting...

what am i doing to my lp1 to make it a 2 speed you may ask.. well since the track i race at allows the storm suv truggy to run with savages and all, im building a lp1 truggy.. but i want 2 speeds.. i also just ordered a set of panther tires for it and for the lp2.. when i get them ill post some pics..

CRSMP5

04-18-2004, 06:12 PM

http://members.aol.com/sxuldveight/rc/truggy/1.jpg
http://members.aol.com/sxuldveight/rc/truggy/2.jpg
http://members.aol.com/sxuldveight/rc/truggy/3.jpg
http://members.aol.com/sxuldveight/rc/truggy/4.jpg

truggy... truggy... 2 speed in truggy.. ill post more up to date pics as i finish this project.. and yes i buchered the body (will be black to represent the outlaw effect of such a creation) so i could take it off.. take the wheels off and have 1/8th scale buggy to race also..

now more info on the 2 speed.. since i know some are dying to know..
front drive shaft in the rear is required, the corner of the fuel tank by the spur needs trimmed, a SAVAGE flywheel must be used, or mugen.. anything that fits a savage, the stock one pushes the cb to far forward.. the end piece for the 2 speed cb cannot be used unless you wanna poke a hole in the fuel tank.. very very tight tolerances.. the aluminum servo plate has to be cut by the throttle servo to clear the spurs also, you will have to drill 4 new holes in the chassis also.. i still need to taper the holes thats why it lacks photos.

parts.. besides a savage flywheel and a extra front cvd, the ofna instructions has part numbers on it for bearings and all.. it is like a 160$ conversion.. its not cheap.. but for my purpose should do well and be unique

cbr74

04-18-2004, 06:57 PM

Is it the Ultra Series 2 speed? Because I have one NIP that I'll sell for cheap if somebody else wants to try it.

CRSMP5

04-19-2004, 09:33 AM

ill have to dig the paper work out and look.. normal retail on the unit is like 125.. but bearings (10), diff holders (10), drive cups (10), set screws (4) for drive cups, and the still need to get brake cam lever and aluminum brace will bump it over 160 range.. should have looked on ebay instead of buying new parts nut i originally bought this stuff to do on a custom savage set up that i have not yet finished.

CRSMP5

04-19-2004, 05:30 PM

ill be a... the panther mt tires showed up today.. these are the komodo dragon t140ms tires.. they are at max 1/8" taller then buggy tires.. i ordered these sat befor noon on the web from teh place linked above.. i had them today by 11am.. talk about fast shipping.. i also got the 9$ brake disks to try out and a set of buggy tires and wheels..

http://members.aol.com/toungbath/rc/truggy/4.jpg
http://members.aol.com/toungbath/rc/truggy/3.jpg
http://members.aol.com/toungbath/rc/truggy/2.jpg
http://members.aol.com/toungbath/rc/truggy/1.jpg

but thats how the truggy (lp1) sits against the lp2.. i cannot beleive how small these tires are..

http://members.aol.com/toungbath/rc/panther/1.jpg
im impressed.. i really really am.. wanna make a truggy... there ya go.. a set fo 50$ tires if you buy before april ends and set of 20$ wheels.. i figure subtract 1t off the cb for the added diameter and the stock gearign will rule.. once i get the foams trimed more.. honestly 1/8th scale buggy foams will work better with less work, has a note in it that says foams must be cut down 1/2" from the side.. which = buggy foams, but the diameter of the foam is too tall.. makes the tire buldge away from the rim.. so must come up with a cute way to make them not so thick, o rget softer foams..

well what do you think guys?

FlashLCD33

04-19-2004, 06:03 PM

Well i just won a Lightning RTR on ebay NIB for $247.50 shipped. Anything i should get first? So far i have a servo, filter, and bearings for the steering lined up to get.

Also.. i found that www.stormerhobbies.com has parts for the lightning.. anywhere else? Thanks..

BTW.. i dont really want to read through the 23 page thread.. so if you could answer these questions even though they're probably answered already.. i'd be thankful :)

FlashLCD33

04-19-2004, 06:08 PM

Well i just found RCILasers post.. SWEET! Anywhere else also? Thanks.

BTW RCILaser, it would be sweet if you could set up your shopping car system for the HotBodies parts.. that way you could order them any time you have time available :o

CRSMP5

04-19-2004, 06:25 PM

i am very very impressed with his shipping and service.. i ordered the tires from him sat around 8am and had them in hand today.. yes please shopping cart for lightning parts..

next.. parts.. browns hobby shop in ohio, 330-532-1783 they are not on the web, but give them a call.. they will hook ya up and seem to carry all the 1st version stuff and have it in stock..

also there is 3 threads.. there is over 100 pages.. :) please read v1, v2 and this one.. there is so much NEED to read info that is valuable that this i call the Lightning Bible..

brokenzipper

04-19-2004, 10:31 PM

I would really like to get a hold of the pro2 front shocks with the 3.5mm shafts if anyone knows where to get them. thx

FlashLCD33

04-20-2004, 01:24 AM

Ok well i just traded my buddy my rc10gt rolling chassis for a 645MG and a motorsaver offroad air filter. He hasnt ordered them yet, but i know him and i know he will when he orders his stuff. The chassis was pretty beat up and stuff, so i hooked up up pretty fat. Like hex drivers, nut drivers, extra tires/wheels, ton of extra parts, screws, etc. But i'll be able to drive it whenever i want :D. He just wanted it as a parts truck to keep his GT+ running.

Anyways, what are the first things i should get? I'll try to read through all of the lightning stuff through the next week or 2. Hopefully i'll get my buggy in by this weekend, that would be sweet. The shipping will only take 2-3 days MAX because the place is pretty close to me, it just depends on when he ships it out :(

CRSMP5

04-20-2004, 07:03 AM

steering servo.. then hop ups the pro1/2 has vs the rtr1... i have a list of the differances back a year ago probally in v2 of th ethread of the rtr vs pro what you get different.. and a few pages ago what the pro2 has the pro1 lacks.. theres partnumbers and all.. so look to find them posts.. will be much eaiser..

boil the wing and wheels for 5-10min also.. it will make them softer and not prone to breaking..

luvmypro

04-20-2004, 09:11 AM

cbr74

04-20-2004, 09:54 AM

luvmypro... how 'bout the diffs? What do ya want for the f/c/r?

luvmypro

04-20-2004, 01:07 PM

$95 for all three...do you need the Diff Fixing plates for the center also?

cbr74

04-20-2004, 01:09 PM

I don't think so... unless the center diff is LP2 specific.

luvmypro

04-20-2004, 01:12 PM

do you want them? you can pay me by paypal or send me a check/money order.

cbr74

04-20-2004, 01:15 PM

Yes, I want them. PayPal's no prob. Can't take 'em right now though... promised myself I would save the R/C fund for RCX. If you still have them after RCX.. I'll take 'em.

luvmypro

04-20-2004, 01:21 PM

when's that? I'll have these...I would like to get rid of it all within atleast two weeks.

cbr74

04-20-2004, 01:24 PM

RCX is April 23-25. (this weekend)

http://www.rcx.com

luvmypro

04-20-2004, 01:34 PM

that's no problem, I'll hold onto them for you if you want them.

CRSMP5

04-20-2004, 06:41 PM

:) make sure to let us know what HB has at the RCX for us buggy owners..

FlashLCD33

04-20-2004, 10:09 PM

I've always wanted to go to RCX, they look sweet! Hopefully there's good coverage here on the forums :D

chevelledude33

04-20-2004, 11:10 PM

wheres a goood place to buy parts for lightning? whats a good fix for wing?

CRSMP5

04-21-2004, 06:58 AM

look 1 pge back for parts info... and the stock wing if boiled..

luvmypro

04-21-2004, 08:12 AM

:eek: I got parts, I got parts :eek: ! Whatcha need??? :rolleyes:

brokenzipper

04-21-2004, 07:53 PM

How much could one make if he bought a pro2 and tore it all apart and sold parts on ebay. Would it be worth it. I noticed that there are no parts for it on ebay

CRSMP5

04-21-2004, 11:18 PM

well if its a 400$ buggy.. hard to say what you can sell.. the chassis/low cg stuff as 1 package, front suspention as another, bearing set, diffs, shocks.. then aluminum hop ups like shock towers i think it would come close to breakign even..

luvmypro

04-22-2004, 11:27 AM

It's not worth it. I thought that I would try it and am finding out that you break about even. Figure in the time it takes to take the pics, post, package, disassemble, and mail out. I sale Savage parts on Ebay by the same principle and they're not even worth the time involved. I just moved 8 of them over three weeks and lucky to have made $400-500. They have motors, controllers,receivers, and servos...and if you haven't noticed...the Savage 25 is the "happening thing" in the monster truck craze right now and parts move very fast, but you never know what you're going to make until it's all over. Sure try and put a reserve on stuff, your listing fee is increased and alot of times you don't get many bidders. You list the stuff for a low starting bid, others see alot of bids on an item, and they have to see what everyone's bidding on, and they then bid too. Seems like a great way to make some cash to supposrt the Nitro rush...but like I said it consumes all your time and you always have some people complain about stuff you can't control...the mail system. The Pro 2 just doesn't have enough "money making" parts on it to make it worth parting out. I can get them from a Distributor for a really good price and they still aren't worth it. ;)

brokenzipper

04-22-2004, 02:50 PM

Thx for the replys, you mentioned some things that i didnt think of. Was just trying make a little extra cash to help support my upcoming REVO fund. lol

FlashLCD33

04-22-2004, 06:22 PM

Well my buggy should be in by next weekend. So here is my list of stuff to do before taking it out for the first time.

boil wing (softer for flex, instead of breaking)
put on new servo (645 for steering)
put in bearing steering (replacing bushings in steering with bearings)
wrap rx and battery in foam (rx and 5 cell pack)
fill diffs with oil (3k front, 5k center, 1k rear)
red threadlock "front steering knuckles"(put a drop in knuckle, not on screw)
blue threadlock metal-metal (engine mounts, etc)
check tightness on all screws (make sure no distempered worker trying to screw me...)
check linkage and idle stop (so i dont get ready to break it in and have the linkage messed up)

got anything to add?

kyoshofan420

04-22-2004, 07:54 PM

Flash, you forgot the most important thing! Have fun :) Congrats on the buggy. It sounds like it will be pretty hooked up.

FlashLCD33

04-22-2004, 08:43 PM

Trust me.. i've been about a month without running my GT (parted it out.. a lot slower then i expected) before i got enough to order the buggy. Well i won the buggy on ebay sunday night.. so the guy said it takes about a week before he can ship them out (busy ebayer.. hobby shop) so i'm hoping it will ship out monday/tuesday. He's not real far from me so shipping should take 3 days max once he sends it out.

I just want to get this thing hooked up for a very loose track. Got 2 other buggys to beat :) (x-terminator, and hyper 7 PCR)

CRSMP5

04-22-2004, 11:12 PM

i hope it is not the ebay guy who turns into a month..... look a few pages back for a issue with someone on ebay who never had them in stock...

Blacktiger

04-22-2004, 11:26 PM

Hey all, was wondering what suspension setups are working for everyone. Currently my buggy has stock springs and 30wt oil and stock wheelbase. Pretty much out of the box setup. But I need to tweak it a bit. On my local track it lacks a bit of on power steering and when landing jumps it gets very loose and I have to let off and let it settle to regain control. I was thinking a spring change and maybe try a short wheelbase. But would appreciate any help or info on what works well for everyone else. I'll try anything to help it handle better.

Blacktiger

04-22-2004, 11:46 PM

Also wanted to show how my buggy sits at the moment. Result of the above said loose landings.

Had a little mishap at the track tuesday night. Oh well, had fun running and I didn't break it till almost time to go anyway.

http://s89755524.onlinehome.us/bt/BrokenHub-1.JPG
http://s89755524.onlinehome.us/bt/BrokenHub-2.JPG

Parts broken:
Left rear hub.
Left rear outer suspension pin bent.
Front upper suspension holder.
Lost a couple screws.

FlashLCD33

04-23-2004, 12:14 AM

Well i looked and cant find what you're talking about. Do you know his ebay name?

luvmypro

04-23-2004, 10:34 AM

whtrhino :mad:

this is who I paid for one on the 12th of April and as of the 22nd it wasn't even shipped yet. He kept telling me it was shipped last Fri, then Monday, then said their was an address problem (hmm...my mail chick never had a problem getting me my mail) fianlly yesterday I emailed him and told him to cancel it.

So I don't have the Pro 2 to part out now...I'm ok with that considering I was worried about breaking even and the time consumed with it.

Not sure if it's the same guy you all are talking about...awesome prices, but not worth the time involved. It was a Pro 2 NIB for $299.

CRSMP5

04-23-2004, 11:52 AM

http://members.aol.com/toungbath/rc/mike/pro/1.jpg
http://members.aol.com/toungbath/rc/mike/pro/2.jpg
http://members.aol.com/toungbath/rc/mike/pro/3.jpg
http://members.aol.com/toungbath/rc/mike/pro/4.jpg
http://members.aol.com/toungbath/rc/mike/pro/5.jpg
thats a body i painted up for a RC newbie who ive seemed to taken under my wing (on my pro 1 though).. he got his pro1 monday.. savage like 3 weeks ago.. :) he is collecting up on rc pretty fast.. and is now looking for more power too..

that sounds like the guy from ebay who milks it out and you never receive items.. its sad for stuff like that to happen..

those are the wheels and tires from atomic april special for a set.. i liked the look of the multi spoke.. still gotta try them out on the track..

FlashLCD33

04-23-2004, 04:25 PM

Same guy :eek:

May just be the pro2 also.. since they're pretty rare still. I emailed him and he said it should ship out this coming week (like monday or tuesday).. so i hope it does.

CRSMP5

04-23-2004, 07:09 PM

i would not hold my breath on ever getting it.. fisrt off for a LHS list price is 368 for a lp2... so how can you sell it for 300? not possible.. so you make excuses..

the ebay incidents i heard of was the rtr and none of them ever got their buggies.. they gave up 1st.. its like he holds auctions.. then orders what he auctioned off.. and getting a rtr is next to impossible anymore cause they have a rtr2 about to be out.. the parts/photos come with the pro2.. so do not expect to get your rtr.. rember if you paid via paypal you have 30 days to get your money back.. so on day 29 if all you hear is bs file clame with paypal..

chevelledude33

04-23-2004, 08:37 PM

whats this about the rtr2?

Blacktiger

04-23-2004, 09:19 PM

Did anyone se my question above?

CRSMP5

04-24-2004, 09:02 AM

there is a rtr2 with the new pro2 front suspention.. only part #s and stuff.. no real info.. but they even have a pic of the rtr2 body which has a yellow/white flame like the pro2..

stock set up is damb good..

KrisP

04-24-2004, 09:36 AM

FlashLCD33

04-24-2004, 01:25 PM

Well i have it all planned out.

As soon as this guy sends me the buggy, i'm going to ship it off to my friend for $250. My bday is the first week of may, so i'm going to wait untill then to get a buggy.

So far i have planned out:
Lightning PRO 2
2PL
645MG
Hyper 8 port RACE w/ pullstart (or a 24.7)

It's coming up to be really expensive. I'm also looking at getting an X-Terminator Deluxe instead.. for $425 it comes absolutely LOADED. 24.7 and an Agressor radio, with all aluminum and carbon fiber.

CRSMP5

04-24-2004, 01:36 PM

8 port race is not avaliable in the usa with pull start..

lastnight i did a buy me now for a ps for my 8 port race (58 shipped) with pull start since the rb28 is backed up another 30 days..

FlashLCD33

04-24-2004, 01:50 PM

Oh crap you're right.

Well i'm pretty much set on the X-Terminator Deluxe.. i'll let you guys know how things go if i get a lightning or the deluxe.

CRSMP5

04-24-2004, 11:40 PM

I have a Lightning Pro 2, I bought for my buddy. I assembled it and installed a used S25 and new servos out of a Savage. He waited till I was done to tell me he cant buy it. I already bought one for myself so this one is up for sale. It has only been idled around in grass for about half a tank to test it. It is perfect in every way, no flaws or scratches.Period. The body still has the protective plastic on it. No decals have been applied. Original box and factory extras included (some still in the bag.) Add your transmitter and receiver and it is RTR.
$400 shipped to the US only.
http://images.snapfish.com/33%3A5%3A8%3A723232%7Ffp45%3Dot%3E2328%3D3%3A8%3D5 29%3Dxroqdf%3E23234%3C%3B558585ot1lsi
http://images.snapfish.com/33%3A5%3A8%3A723232%7Ffp45%3Dot%3E2328%3D3%3A8%3D5 29%3Dxroqdf%3E23234%3C%3B558586ot1lsi

this is from savage central sell section... thread.. http://www.savage-central.com/ftopic20001.html

KrisP

04-25-2004, 02:10 AM

This is my buggy. you can email me at krisp_2@hotmail.com for more info and/or pics.

Saboteur

04-27-2004, 01:03 AM

How does the lighting RTR compare to the Ofna mbx R2? Durability the same or one has the advantage? My lhs has the HB buggy but no parts for it. Lots of Ofna stuff though, due to the fact they mainly sell ofna rtrs. I've been told the old saying "friends dont let other friends drive Ofnas" but I've had friends with good luck with the MBX's and even GT LX's. Budget is about $350. Something with no radio would be nice like an Ofna mbx r2 80% assemb. w/.21. Ebay is out because my sis wont let me order any rc stuff from there. Say's its too expensive. :p

CRSMP5

04-27-2004, 09:52 AM

honestly dead truth.. if it were a pro id say go for it.. a rtr version is relly not worth it.. the radio is not that good, and for all it lacks vs a pro at the same cost.. hard to say its true value.. yes its a great buggy.. but the ofna will have more parts you can get to hop it up

Saboteur

04-27-2004, 04:06 PM

NitroLightning

04-27-2004, 05:39 PM

I was thinking about converting my tranny over to a 2 speed. Ofna carries one that looks very durable, compact and reliable. Check it out
http://ofna.com/h7opt.html
It is the first pic part number 19240. It looks like it may a direct fit without any modifications. One of my concerns would be the CB getting crammed into the fuel tank. Does it have a differential built into it (doesnt look like it does)?

Ferrari_Spyder

04-27-2004, 06:19 PM

I'm going to get the RTR. I have my 3pdfx to use in it and a hitec servo. Not a problem. Gonna get rid of the stock radio gear anyway. Can't afford a pro kit and all that other stuff at the moment. Anyway I called my LHS and they said they can order the parts for me. :)

wait, wait, wait! is there any reason your not getting the hotbodies pro? its not really a pro its just an ARR (almost ready to run) and the only thing it needs is the radio gear. it assembled and with an engine for $280

chevelledude33

04-27-2004, 06:32 PM

does any one know how much for a the lightning rtr2?

CRSMP5

04-27-2004, 07:11 PM

rtr2 not avaliable yet.. only info i have came with my pro2..

look above at the deal on the pro2... nice price for it..

i have a ofna 2 speed in my pro1.. look back 1 page..

CRSMP5

04-27-2004, 07:17 PM

http://members.aol.com/sxuldveight/rc/truggy/4.jpg

now more info on the 2 speed.. since i know some are dying to know..
front drive shaft in the rear is required, the corner of the fuel tank by the spur needs trimmed, a SAVAGE flywheel must be used, or mugen.. anything that fits a savage, the stock one pushes the cb to far forward.. the end piece for the 2 speed cb cannot be used unless you wanna poke a hole in the fuel tank.. very very tight tolerances.. the aluminum servo plate has to be cut by the throttle servo to clear the spurs also, you will have to drill 4 new holes in the chassis also.. i still need to taper the holes thats why it lacks photos.

parts.. besides a savage flywheel and a extra front cvd, the ofna instructions has part numbers on it for bearings and all.. it is like a 160$ conversion.. its not cheap.. but for my purpose should do well and be unique

it was back 2 pages :p and with a picco 26, it is insaine.. i had to loosen up the adjustment 1/2 turn from standard setting to be effective.. make sure to buy a 2 speed that has the shoe set up, so it will slip under a jump if in 2nd to work like a slipper clutch, the savage flywheel will move the cb back far enough to clear the tank if you do not use the bearing cap on the end of it. and the corner of the fuel tank needs a mod to clear 1st gear spur and the radio tray also by the throttle servo..

CRSMP5

04-27-2004, 07:20 PM

also fs.. there are no pro1s i know of anywhere.. ive hooked people up with the last2 i knew of on shelves.. so now its pro2 or rtr1

chevelledude33

04-27-2004, 08:13 PM

whens the rtr2 suppossed to come out? thanks

Saboteur

04-27-2004, 08:53 PM

wait, wait, wait! is there any reason your not getting the hotbodies pro? its not really a pro its just an ARR (almost ready to run) and the only thing it needs is the radio gear. it assembled and with an engine for $280

Nice..how did I miss that? Where at?

CRSMP5

04-27-2004, 10:27 PM

Saboteur on the web pro1 was avaliable for a while at 290+shipping.. that stock ran out and is non existant anymore.. so fs is wrong with that idea, or even bringing it up..

the best you can do is find a pro1 on a shelf.. 335ish.. trick is finding one in stock anywhere collecting dust...

rtr2 no idea.. like i said.. that info was in my instruction book that came with the pro2.. and like always.. i seem to have info of stuff to be soon out before there is any info on it..

chevelledude33

04-27-2004, 11:11 PM

cool thanks for sharing your knowledge.

k_bojar

04-28-2004, 09:53 AM

Anyone know if the Ratzas MP7.5 parts will fit the Lightning?? I know that a "few" Kyosho parts will fit the lightning, just wanna know if these will too

So I guess basically, has anyone changed the HB shock tower(s) to a Kyosho??

CRSMP5

04-28-2004, 11:19 AM

why would you need to use something other then the pro tower? looking at the kani3 towers and how they mount they look the same, but side by side comparison is the only true way to know

cbr74

04-28-2004, 01:55 PM

That'd be my question too. The Pro towers are sweet, why change them?

Saboteur

04-28-2004, 03:12 PM

Oh well...guess I came too late. :( Anyway I have my rides up for sale or trade at the moment to get an 8th scale buggy or MT:
http://www.radiocontrolzone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=166014

Ferrari_Spyder

04-28-2004, 07:13 PM

lightning pros

http://hobbyoutlets.com/hotbodies/hbsc5502.htm
https://www.ssl-stormerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/seekpart.pl?pn=HOT55002
http://www.bndrc.com/bdrc_kits_store.asp

CRSMP5

04-28-2004, 10:03 PM

:) wonder how mny are actually in stock..
the 1st link is the cheapest at 335... thanks for the info.. but see no 290$ ones..

72 510

04-29-2004, 12:01 PM

Hobby outlet doesn't have them in stock, thats my LHS.

heres my ride:

I got my LP1/LP2/K2 together.

I used K2 shocks with LP1 caps to utilize the sweet HB standoffs.

front I used the rear K2 uni's (front uni's are to long)
rear I used the front K2 uni's (longer but fit nicely)
centers are K2 uni's (fit perfect)

7.5 diff gears
LP2 front and rear suspension
Racers Edge CNC knuckles
modified the wing mount to utilize screws
LP2 wing
Boca greens throughout
Fioroni turbo slider
RB S5
Ofna 086 with Waller
stripped the purple ano
Ko Mars R (I love this radio)
air 358 (steering)
JR z590m (throttle)
Venom Failsafe

along with K2 wheel hex's she is ready to hit the track.

http://homepages.donobi.net/72510/lightning/left.jpg

http://homepages.donobi.net/72510/lightning/rear.jpg

http://homepages.donobi.net/72510/lightning/rear.jpg

I now have the C5 in my buggy for the big outdoor tracks....

FlashLCD33

04-29-2004, 04:49 PM

Wow that looks NICE!

Cant beat RBC.

Ooopps

04-29-2004, 10:24 PM

CR....

I broke a stock lower hinge pin block, do you know if a K2 unit will work, and if it does what block A or B? Also the aluminum Hot Bodies option one, If I can find one, what degree is the stock 0º or 3º.

Thanks

John

Ooopps

04-29-2004, 10:25 PM

Forgot to mention it is the front lower block.

CRSMP5

04-30-2004, 07:02 AM

in the spare parts that came with the buggy there is a set of the other ones.. one is a +1 one is a -1 ive never sat down to figure out what is stock.. but you do have a piece to keep ya going.. just make sure to use the matching upper ones..

check out http://www.atomicmotorsports.com/main.htm link a page or 2 back.. they have the aluminum ones (30$ each) and the stock plastic ones are like 5$ a bag...

as far as k2.. they look the same on the kIII pics but my ability to even see kani parts is non existant in person.. no one sells kyosho parts that i know of..

k_bojar

04-30-2004, 08:58 AM

That'd be my question too. The Pro towers are sweet, why change them?

No real reason...Just wanted something new on the buggy :D :)

Ooopps

04-30-2004, 09:51 AM

Thanks CR, I already started putting the other set on, Just was not sure what direction +1 and -1 is. I am assuming +1 decreases front caster kickup by 1º (just by looking at the blocks the rear of the a-arms go up by 1º) and -1º increases castor front kickup. Just trying to confirm this.

CRSMP5

04-30-2004, 11:37 AM

thats my thought also..

k_bojar

04-30-2004, 12:37 PM

Did Hot Bodies change their web addy again??

If not, I'm having a major attack of being brain dead :(

ANy help??

Does anyone know where I can get a copy of a Lightning manual?? Looks like mine got misplaced when I moved :( :x grrr

CRSMP5

04-30-2004, 01:01 PM

www.hotbodiesonline.net

they do not list the manual on the webpage.. but what i need is one of our members that has a scanner and willing to scan one, pdf it, and return it ill send my pro1 and pro2 manuals so we have a dl avaliable here on the forum.. shoot me a PM if you can do this.. when i updated to xp my old scaner from 97 i cannot find a driver to use...

next.. who has a 8 port race in their buggies? i did a foolish thing and bough ta new p&s for my 8 port race that has the "pull start" that was never sold in this country and am breakign it in again.. what cb do you guys find to be great with it? i was thinking 14t maybe 15t..

luvmypro

04-30-2004, 04:12 PM

OK. I still have my Lightning Pro 1...I need to get rid of it. It's collecting dust and is too tempting to throw another motor on it and keep both. Pics are still on Ebay, auction is over, but this way you can check it out. Item # 3185662470.

Here's the deal, it has no motor (it's on my Pro2), tires are wore down, and it needs the wing mount and wing (I stole it for my Pro 2 when it snapped). It has JR Racing Servos, is in great shape with alot of new parts, new receiver, read the rest on the Ebay page. I want $200 firm. I'll ship it for $15 anywhere in the US. I don't want to repost on ebay, this way it saves everyone some $$$. Let me know, thanks. :)

Ferrari_Spyder

04-30-2004, 05:42 PM

just to let you know, theres a couple lightning pro2's going NIB on ebay for $355

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=49215&item=3189909770&rd=1

CRSMP5

04-30-2004, 07:08 PM

but FS.. thats the conman guy who never mails you your stuff.. look a page back.. guy above you got stuck on getting one and gave up..

also thanks to the 2 members (gr8taz nitro, Ooopps) who sent me pms.. with all luck ill have a pro1 set on web by sunday night.. and as soon as i mail the pro2 info it will also get the same treatment.. thanks again for your time and efforts.

Ferrari_Spyder

04-30-2004, 07:32 PM

but the price is right and if you look at his feedback almost all say it takes a while for shipping but he does ship!

FlashLCD33

04-30-2004, 11:04 PM

Well he sticks to his 2 weeks pretty well. My 2 weeks is up sunday, so i emailed him today and he said he's shipping it out tonight and will email me a tracking number. I'll let you guys know how it goes.

Saboteur

04-30-2004, 11:21 PM

Well guys, looks like I'm buying my own brand new HB lighting RTR buggy. It's $320 at the lhs though..and with tax it will be more. I'll try to talk them into a lower price. I'd like to order from tower as I'd save some $$. Atleast if I get it from the LHS, they can help me with the problem whereas with tower, Id have to send it back and wait again. What do you guys think? Also what are the weakness of this buggy? From a few videos it seems to take a good beating (actually I think it was the pro vs). What's the speed like?

KrisP

05-01-2004, 11:19 AM

Heys guy mine is still for sale. $385 shipped minus radio or $340 shipped roller. It is basically brand new.

FlashLCD33

05-02-2004, 02:21 AM

I'm looking for a good Lightning Pro roller with no engine or electronics.. drop me a PM.

Ferrari_Spyder

05-02-2004, 12:36 PM

anybody got a used lightning RR roller? im looking for a cheap parts car

TheGeneralG

05-02-2004, 10:26 PM

Ok got my HB PRO 1 all torn down after running 8 tanks for break-in. I'm going to fill the diffs with oil (3k front, 5k center, 1k rear)... and shim the diffs. The question I have is what is everyone running for shock weight and springs?

FlashLCD33

05-03-2004, 12:29 AM

Well last night and today i've read all of 1.0, 2.0, and 3.0. So far i've learned pretty much every weak spot. I'm going to get a new wing for sure, and if worst comes to worst i'll make an aluminum wing mount. I plan on going with 3k/5k/1k for front/center/rear.

How does the engine react to 20% Byron race? Right off the bat i'm getting some 6x10 bearings for the bellcranks, some extra plugs, a 645MG, a Motorsaver filter, and the diff oil. Going to blue threadlock everything and red threadlock the front steering knuckle screws. I plan on doing all of this before the first run, since it's suppost to be crappy anyways. I'm going to be installing my 2/3A 5 cell 1100nimh hump pack, and once i get the buggy so i can use the radio box for measurements i plan on making a custom rx pack out of 2300nimh AAs.

BTW:

How does this engine compare to a 24.7 and an 8 port on a tight loose track? I should have the better set up buggy using diff oil and the better servo of the bunch, as well as tires. I know it's driver, but if the engine is just too weak i'll just lean it out and get as much out of it as i can before i order a new engine (possibly a Wasp .26, or a 24.7)

NitroLightning

05-03-2004, 12:39 AM

Hey CRSMP5
On the Ofna website, which 2 speed tranny is it that you installed in your lp1?
This is the one that i am currently looking at
http://ofna.com/h7opt.html
It is the Hyper 7 2 speed part # 19240
Let me know if it is the same one

Also, i am looking at purchasing the 9.5 Ofna Torsen Diffs front and rear part # 49028. Does anyone have any experience with those diffs and could tell me how they are and if they are durable? Also, does anyone know if they would be a direct fit without any modification?

CRSMP5

05-03-2004, 09:23 PM

i have to find the box mine came in. have not had time to go trenching for it yet.. i know i have it.. just finding it is a issue.

FlashLCD33

05-03-2004, 10:06 PM

Ok guys i'm getting:

Towerhobbies shopping cart:
4 6x10 bearings (bellcranks)
HS625MG (throttle/brake)
Motorsaver 1/8 offroad filter
Duratrax flash temp guage
HS645MG (steering)

HobbytownUSA:
Kyosho 7.5 wing
3k/5k/1k diff oil

This will be for my NIB Lightning RR i'm getting. Anything else i NEED right off the bat? I know the servos arent exactly top of the line, but they're better then the stockers for sure. I'll be 90% bashing and 10% racing, on a track with no real rules. The track is homemade and we basically just use it to bash.

TheGeneralG

05-03-2004, 11:04 PM

Here's a pic of my HB PRO 1 after 11 tanks of fuel, 8 tanks for break-in.

http://members.cox.net/grantrs/R_C/hbpro.jpg

FlashLCD33

05-03-2004, 11:53 PM

SWEEEEEEET!

I havent read of any race results lately.. anybody still racing one of these babies?

CRSMP5

05-04-2004, 10:52 AM

i still racing both pro1 and 2.. settign them up for different set ups.. they are now running a 10min qualifier, 15min main 1/8th scale buggy race, and the normal race.. so im usign a pro2 for the long duration one..

ram15racer

05-04-2004, 11:36 AM

My son is still racing the pro1. He would have finished in the top 5 in the points at CRCRC If he didn't get that D on his report card. not to bad for a 13 year old.
WWW.CRCRC.COM look for Cody H.

Dane

ram15racer

05-04-2004, 11:39 AM

If you are looking for a two speed for your buggy, anyone try the one out of the street lightning? direct fit from what i hear.

k_bojar

05-04-2004, 12:07 PM

I will still be racing mine - there is no racing over the winter here in the PA/NJ/DE area, I guess the winters are too bad :):D

I'm in the process of rebuilding mine - needed to be cleaned from last season's racing...Should be back together soon

Ooopps

05-04-2004, 12:46 PM

My LP1.......

FlashLCD33

05-04-2004, 04:47 PM

I'm still waiting on my LRR to get here from whtrhino. If you buy from him, dont be suprised if he stands up to his "up to 2 weeks for shipping" statement in the auctions. He shipped mine out the last day before the 14 days was up. Oh well after a few emails he shipped it and gave me a tracking number. USPS from Phoenix to the middle of kansas.. shipped friday so it should be here wednesday-thursday.

FlashLCD33

05-04-2004, 07:38 PM

Well my Lightning RR is about to get a makeover.

Estimated Arrival Date: Between 05/07/04 - 05/12/04
LXD128 DuraTrax Bearing 6x10mm (2) In stock, shipping 2 $7.98
LXUZ87 Hitec HS-625MG Servo Speed Metal Gear S/JR/Z In stock, shipping 1 $36.99
LXDBD5 Motor Saver 1/8 Off-Road Filter 15/16MM In stock, shipping 1 $19.99
LXEMG5 DuraTrax FlashPoint Infrared Temperature Gauge In stock, shipping 1 $22.99
LXUZ90 Hitec HS-645MG Servo Torque Metal Gear J In stock, shipping 1 $36.99
PC7110 $10 Promotional Discount In stock, shipping 1 $10.00-
Order Summary

In-Stock Subtotal: $ 114.94
Priority Mail: $ 6.99
Total Current Charges: $ 121.93

Going to have a friend pick my up a wing and diff oils at the hobbyshop he's going to.

NitroLightning

05-04-2004, 07:41 PM

If you are looking for a two speed for your buggy, anyone try the one out of the street lightning? direct fit from what i hear.
Do you have any part numbers or anything so i could check this item out??

TheGeneralG

05-05-2004, 12:56 AM

Well I found another PRO 1 today... NIB with Jammin Pipe! Anyone want to buy a .21 BB engine brand new? I'm going to use the 2nd Pro for spare parts...

charlesd

05-05-2004, 11:57 AM

I still have a pro 1 in the box never touched. :)

I had bought a second one brand new for a parts car since no hobby shops have Hot Bodies here in Canada. While this one was waiting to be delivered, i ended up winning a pro 1 roller on Ebay.

The only thing i changed on my lightning so far is the wing mount -- so i basically have 3 lightning pro's to start the season.

The one i bought from ebay -- i tore down and filled my parts box.

dynamic_e

05-05-2004, 12:27 PM

I will post it up on the FS board later, but I figured it would be smart to offer it to you guys first. GOt a new baby boy and have no time to race or go to the track to use these

Lightning Pro #1 "Kanai Killer"
-Kanai 3 Front Upper and Lower and Rear Arms
-Kanai 3 Carriers
-Ofna Hyper Threaded Shocks
-Kanai Bearings
-Diff Oil in all DIffs
-Kanai WHeels w/ Crimefighters

Lightning Pro #2
-All stock, currently dissasembled for rebuild
-CUstom Beefy front pivot block
-Hyper 21 8 Port Race Motor(just broken in)
-Stock WHeels w/ Stock Tires

(3) Painted BOdies
(1) Brand New Unpainted Trinity Body
(1) Brand New Chassis Set

$475 + shipping for the pair with goodies. For less then the price of a used Kanai, you can have 2 awesome buggies!

Email me at eric@dynamictuning.com

kyoshofan420

05-05-2004, 01:29 PM

Hey everyone. I had an engine question for you all. I still have the stock engine in my lightning and wanted to upgrade the power. I heard the stock engine is Force based, so I was wondering if the Delta Force T8's piston and sleeve would fit in the engine. I compared a picture of the engine blocks and they look the same. I like the engine I am using, but I need more power. Thanks in advance :)

ram15racer

05-05-2004, 02:55 PM

Nitrolightning,
I haven't seen a part # yet for it. I know that it is a two speed, and everything should be a direct fit. ( and a lot cheeper money wise ) than trying to retro fit the ofna one. I will see if i can find the part #'s for you.

Kyoshofan420,
If i where you i would scrap that idea. even with more ports you still have the same block. And it will only push some much fuel. I got a NR P5 in mine and it is light years from the stock motor. Just save up for a good NR, RB or OS motor and be done with it.

Dane

Ferrari_Spyder

05-05-2004, 09:41 PM

erfgh! how many issues can i have with this el crapo carb?

well it might be me doing something wrong but here goes:

the carb will not stay put on the engine block

the carb clinch bolt was tightened enough to strip the head of the screw now.

so i have the carb clinch bolt stuck forever in there, while its not tight enough to hold the carb.

i can twist or pop-off the carb easily

has anyone had this problem before or know what i am doing wrong?

i dont understand since it USED to be perfectly secure and now its all loose.

i am thinking i need to glue it on or seal it, and i have heard with silicone sealant is the best.

whats wrong?

p.s. email me with any offers on rolling chassis' or .21bb engines any condition

FlashLCD33

05-06-2004, 12:02 AM

Try some o2 sensor safe RTV temperature sealant.

CRSMP5

05-06-2004, 01:48 PM

add a washer between the nut and the bolt.. somehow it got lost.. seen it happen lots on savages..

Ferrari_Spyder

05-06-2004, 02:18 PM

yup that sounds good, but now i just got to get the nut & bolt out somehow even though i stripped the head of the screw (or nut?, whatever you screw in) any tips?

CRSMP5

05-06-2004, 03:59 PM

look on savage central buy sell trade section.. there is a stiky at the top for 21bb/s-25 engine parts.. i bet for a few $ can get a new one... use a dremal to cut old nut off..

FlashLCD33

05-06-2004, 04:49 PM

Dremel a slot into the screw and use a flathead.

CRSMP5

05-06-2004, 08:05 PM

its a nut on a shaft.. not a normal screw head.. so cannsot slot it

CRSMP5

05-07-2004, 07:38 PM

info on rtr2....

http://www.hotbodiesonline.net/lightning2rr.jpg

55003 1/8th Scale Buggy Lightning 2 RR (RTR)

Lightning 2 RR Features:
• Full Ball Bearings
• Front CVA Axles
• Exhaust-Tip Bash Guard
• Low Profile Fuel Tank
• Low Profile Upper Deck and Receiver/Batt Box
• 22º Hub Carriers
• Hot, New Painted and Trimmed Body Design
• Rear Sway Bar
• 2pc. Racing Clutch
• .26 Engine
• High Torque Steering Servo
• Jump-Start Starting System
• Complete Radio System
• Fuel Bottle
• 12 "AA" Size Batteries
• Plug Wrench
• Glow Igniter

Equipment Needed:
• "C" Size Battery (for glow igniter)
• 20% Nitro Fuel

http://www.hotbodiesonline.net/light2rr_steering_servo.jpg
The newly designed upper deck mounts the high torque steering servo in a lower position allowing for a lower center of gravity.

http://www.hotbodiesonline.net/light2rr_fuel_tank.jpg
The fuel tank has been made wider and lower so the overall fuel capacity is the same but the center of gravity is lower.

http://www.hotbodiesonline.net/ligh2rr_battery_box.jpg
The battery box is an all new design that is much lower than the previous one

http://www.hotbodiesonline.net/light2rr_front_axle_guard.jpg
The 22º front caster blocks have built-in roost guards to prevent dirt being blasted into the axles

http://www.hotbodiesonline.net/light2rr_rear_axle_guard.jpg
The rear hub carriers have built in roost guards as well that prevent dirt from being blasted into the axles.

http://www.hotbodiesonline.net/light2r_engine.jpg
A massive 26, Jump-Start equipped engine comes standard with the lightning 2 RR!

http://www.hotbodiesonline.net/light2rr_brake.jpg
Adjustable brake bias! You can set whether the front or the rear gets the stopping power by simply adjusting the length of the pull rods!

http://www.hotbodiesonline.net/light2rr_chassis.jpg
A closer look at the chassis reveals countersunk screws and better view of the new "A" arm design

http://www.hotbodiesonline.net/lightningrr_body.jpg
Top it off with a cool new pre-printed body and there you have it,the lightning 2 RR (Race Ready)!

CRSMP5

05-07-2004, 07:42 PM

so the rtr2 has a 26, jump start, better steering servo and, pro2 suspention/tank/radio box/chassis... from what i read.. wonder what the street cost of it is vs the pro1.. and they DO NOT say anything abt the jumpstart 7.2v batt..

chevelledude33

05-07-2004, 09:38 PM

how much?????????????? i wanttttttttttttttt

FlashLCD33

05-07-2004, 11:05 PM

Looks 90% compatible with my new Lightning RR1 i have sitting behind me. Only differences i see are the arms, raidio tray, battery box, and motor. The motor is a complete waste especially if you plan on racing the buggy. The stock motor is by no means a powerhouse, but it will get you there and it's race legal. I'm personally against laydown servos, i think they're a waste. The new battery box is pretty cool.. but i dont see how it's any better then the Version 1 box.

Well i got my Lightning in today :) I gave it a HARD day of bashing and only thing that happened was the wheelnut fell off, which i found and put back on. This thing took a complete bashing and i love it.

Just a few notes...
I don't know how you guys are breaking the wing. I did a 5' drop and 30+ rolls and it's still in one piece.
The body paintjob looks decent, but the masking wasnt on very tight so there are a few imperfections. It's also not backed at all, so it's kind of transparent and the paint seems to come off pretty easy.
This motor is great i think. It's not the strongest engine you'll ever find, but it starts on the first or second pull and holds a tune all day. It really seems to love Byron Race 20%.
I stripped the steering servo, but no worries. I ordered a new 645 and some other stuff for it a few days ago, so hopefully i'll get it in tomorrow.

It was 90º today, and the engine still wasnt running very hot. I had a great time bashing it though, and found no weak spots yet.

NitroBoy24

05-08-2004, 02:24 AM

how much?????????????? i wanttttttttttttttt

Depending on the price I might buy it. Hopefully it doesnt end up like the Pro 1 when the Pro 2 came out..Gets discontinued then you are stuck with the newer model that costs a ton more.

Any guesstimates on a street price????

CRSMP5

05-08-2004, 08:39 AM

i would assume the rtr1 is on way out.. order them while you can..

if it does not have the current rtr1 cost of 335 at the LHS they will loose major on sales.. i cannto see spendign 400 for it... BUT ill be honest.. expect a 400$ tag to it.. the original ones did for a good 12 months..

Saboteur

05-08-2004, 09:27 AM

Yeah Im still going to the regular RTR although this new bad boy looks really awesome. Never say the RTR chassis though. Flash, did you get the RTR already? How do you like it? What's the speed/power like? Going for mine next week.

Saboteur

05-08-2004, 09:29 AM

P.S.-LHS has the RTR for $320 while tower has it for $299.99. Tower= free shipping, LHS= $340 after tax. Don't know how good a discount I can get on it though. What would you guys say? My friend says the lhs, that way incase something goes wrong, they can help me.

CRSMP5

05-08-2004, 10:49 AM

i agree on LHS.. but i bet once tower is OUT they will not be able to get more.. so buy up, stock parts, and sell.. LOL..

FlashLCD33

05-08-2004, 11:48 AM

Yeah I got it and I love it. Most important thing is a high torque metal gear servo.. mine stripped at the end of the day. I have a 645 on the way though, and it should be here today.

cbr74

05-08-2004, 01:29 PM

RcBoyz still has a few L1RTR's at $290.

FlashLCD33

05-08-2004, 02:15 PM

Full report and a lot of pictures here:

http://www.radiocontrolzone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=166987

:D

NitroBoy24

05-09-2004, 01:02 AM

Anyone know when the RR2 is supposed to come out?!?!

Ahh!! I will probablly need to wait like 2 weeks (when school gets out!) if I were to buy the 1st RTR.

Since the RR1 will be discontinued will the spare parts be discontinued also?? I dont want to buy a buggy to bash if there isnt going to be parts available for it..Or does it look like the rr2 parts are compatible?

Sorry for all the questions but I am not sure what to do..But the RTR now or wait for the RR2, not being sure how much it will cost..Guess I will email hot bodies and throw some questions at them too.

EDIT
Danget Hot Bodies doesnt have their email addy listed because the page that it should have been one "was not found" :(

NitroLightning

05-09-2004, 01:59 AM

Hot Bodies Contact info:

HOT BODIES
27469 Colt Court, Temecula CA 92590
Ph.909.296.9340 Fx.909296.9343

NitroBoy24

05-09-2004, 02:21 AM

Thanks nitro lightning :)

Flash was telling me how the lightning v2 parts should be compatible and I read that other buggy parts will fit so I think I am gonna grab a rr1 while I can :cool:

TheGeneralG

05-09-2004, 02:08 PM

Just wondering if the stock .21BB engine is worth breaking in and buying an aftermarket "chubby" or GH aluminum head for? I'm planning to race 1/8 buggies this summer. First time racing 1/8!

FlashLCD33

05-09-2004, 03:56 PM

The .21BB isn't a powerhouse, but it's a great engine as far as reliability. It would probably do great on small loose tracks where there isn't a long enough stretch to wind out and traction is a problem.

I don't think you need a cooling head, the stock one is sufficient. It was 95º yesterday when i was running, and I had it pretty lean. The max temp i got was 247.6º

CRSMP5

05-09-2004, 06:50 PM

i raced the pro1 and pro2 today.. lp1 = 8 port race with 14t cb, lp2 = rb ws7II with 16t cb.. was on front yard small track, very dusty/loose.. i was running 2 buggy clases, aka normal/open, normal is 5 min qualifiers, 5 min main, open is 10min qualifiers and 15min main..

i started off with the trusty lp1 on the open qualifier 1st, and the lp2 in normal 1st.. i ended up switching buggies between the 2... the lp1 was hooked up real good.. i swear it corners better.. and had traction issues with the lp2.. but then the weather changed.. the lp2 was hooking up much better.. but still lacked the steering the lp1 had.. BUT to keep up with it was fun to watch.. in the final 15min main, 10 started, 5 finished, i was #2, i lead the race for over 10 min.. in the final 2 min a rock jumped up from the groove i was in and sent me into a wall, turn marshel was not paying attention.. and took me up to the last lap on the final turn to miss 1st place by 100ths of a second.. but i showed all them other pricey buggies who was boss..

FlashLCD33

05-09-2004, 10:49 PM

ram15racer

05-10-2004, 08:12 AM

If you are looking at horizon type in " hbsc8 " that will get you a full list of lightning parts that they have.

Dane

NitroLightning

05-10-2004, 04:02 PM

Sorry guys.. but what's the search code for the HB Lightning 1 parts?

I need the Pro1 front and rear anti bending rods.

Also, what hopups do you guys think i should get? I'm planning on an MX3, set of tires/wheels, and the anti bending rods so far. I already have diff oils, servos, and a motorsaver.
Thats a good idea to upgrade to the aluminum chassis anti-bending rods. The part numbers are Front: C8120-1
The part number for the rear: C8121-1
You have to include the -1 otherwise youll be ordering the one that you currently have. Basically anything in your manual with a -1 is a pro upgrade.

With the way that i have read on how you drive it, you should definitly upgrade the chassis too. :D On second thought upgrade your rr to a pro ;)

NitroLightning

05-10-2004, 04:42 PM

Also, what hopups do you guys think i should get? I'm planning on an MX3, set of tires/wheels...
upgrade your clutch shoes to aluminum 3 piece racing shoes or get the 3 piece racing shoes from HB part number: C8043 and C8045

install front and rear cradock disc brakes. I have heard that they are amazing but never tried it.
http://www.advantageracingproducts.com/page7.html

upgrade your rear dogbones to universals with these:
http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXVD47&P=Z

also, if you have dogbones in the center in would upgrade those to universals too. If you want to change the rear ones here is the itme:
http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXV725&P=Z
I have an extra one of those for the front center but i dont know if it will fit cause my hex screw is siezed in place on the current drive shaft. I know that it is longer then my current front but the well where the drive shaft fits into on the diff is deep enough i believe for it to just fit.

Get the racing tires from HB part number: C8032 <-- awsome tires :D

get a set of ofna hyper rims:
http://ofna.com/tires-rims.html

Get torsen diffs for the front/ rear/ center:
I really dont know if these will work but it would be interesting to find out... If anyone knows if anyone of these or all are a direct fit into the lighting please let me know.
http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXCXA2&P=7
http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXCXA3&P=7
http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXNV57&P=7

I think that is all the insane hop-up ideas that i can think of at the moment.

If you were to do all that, plus a ws72 engine, you would have a killer buggy :D :D :eek: But all that is some serious money!!!

Rogue

05-10-2004, 08:16 PM

Hey everyone need a little help. Last week I broke the servo saver, part #8118 on my LP1. I have my regular computer in storage and don't have any links to where I might be able to order one. Could someone please let me know were I might be able to order one, so I can get it back up and running as soon as possible. Thanks!!

CRSMP5

05-10-2004, 11:26 PM

330-532-1783 they have 2 or 3 hanging on the wall.. :)

also any other parts you want call them they have a great supply...

for the cradocks check out http://www.atomicmotorsports.com/main.htm fast fast service.. and i agree on the pro tires.. BUT check out the panther tire deals they have there.. im runing the Chameleon on my lp2 and they hook up pretty damb well.. the med/soft compount is the same compount hb used on the pro tires.. i needed another set of good tires ad my pro1 tires showing their year old age in wear.. and for a complete set of wheels shipped for 50$ is hard to beat.. and you can buy more sets at nice discounts for the more sets you order also.. i ordered from him on a sat before 8am and had them monday morning! so customer service is great.. he also has LP2 parts listed on his page too.. but no anti bend rods.. but browns has them i beleive aka # above

http://advantageracingproducts.com///multispokes.JPG
i have those wheels with the Chameleons and so far for the price of 4.. like i said great deal on them with tires, are strong and not wrped/cracked and have a good 45 min of run time on them now after the 5 min qualifier, 10 min qualifier, 15min main, and 15 min from the last time i had them out, along with 5-6 tanks of practice time on them.. starting to show little wear but not much.

i also have a ws7II in mine with a 16t cb.. its sick.. but IMO a 8 port race with a os 20e carb on it runs really nice.. have that in my lp1... took the junk picco 26 out..

luvmypro

05-11-2004, 04:20 PM

Junk Picco???? What's up with that? The Picco 26 is a great motor for the price. Easy to tune, fast, and takes one heck of a beating. For $160, you can't beat it.

CRSMP5

05-11-2004, 06:48 PM

its crap.. simple.. to me its junk vs even a stock 21bb.. the carb is ****, before you can even use it it has to come apart to remove the rubber o ring shavings that the factory makes due to lack of a simple process called LUBE the o ring before install with simple grease/oil, the carb is so touchy that if the temp changes 5*f that it needs a adjustment else it bogs or runs lean and when i say adjustment im talking about less then a 1/8th turn, the rod is not even knife edged, the crank has no turbo cut at all.. for 160$ why not buy a xtm 24.7 or a pro version for the same amount that will give just ad much, easy to tune, and has performance upgrades.. now we will get to the power band of the engine.. it sux ass.. 1/4 throttle = WOT in power.. it is so flat that i could use it for adjusting the suspention... i do admit it has not blown up yet.. but for the bs in th eengine id rather buy a engine that costs 2x as much, will last longer and have smooth power.. also when the 26 and rb ws7II are installed and geared the same in a savage.. the rb kills it.. and has such a smooth power band all ranges are usuable..

yes i spoiled myself with the rb.. but even so.. id rather have a 8 port with a os carb over the picco.. my rb 28 shipps friday.. :D

Ferrari_Spyder

05-11-2004, 09:04 PM

all these oversize engines fit in with no mods? im getting a new engine soon, what engines wont fit so i stay away from them. gettin a bunch of stuff tonight for my car. just random stuff like a starter box etc. but what are the best PROFORMANCE hop-ups i can stick on the LRR? like $20 stuff maybe a front anti sway bar helpish?

MBX5_RacerX

05-11-2004, 09:58 PM

Well, not sure what happened in the mains CRSMp5, but those so called pricey buggy's you were runnin against, what were they. Probably a couple 9.5's, a few pcr's, a storm, and some other HB's. These were not pricey buggy's compared to the high price of the HB. Most were rtr's, for the same money. But next time your out with some "PRICEY" buggy's, let us know how you do. Maybe I'll be there. And trust me, it's 90% driver. :D

kevinmcdade

05-12-2004, 12:18 AM

Which engine will be a direct fit replacement in my HB Lightning RR RTR? I want something fast but I am not racing this buggy so I WILL NOT be spending more than $150 for the engine. I have read that the Ofna Hyper 8 port (non-race) is pretty decent but I'm not sure if it is a direct fit. If there are any engines larger than .21 that will drop right in, I would definitely be interested. I want to be able to use a pull starter with the new engine.

CRSMP5

05-12-2004, 09:34 AM

any direct fit into savage will fit the buggy.. the force 21/25/26 will not fit.. picco, 8 port, xtm 24.7, rb 21-28, sirro 27, hpi s-25 i know do, the os pull start will be a fit issue and the mach 26 pull start may be a issue..

kevinmcdade

05-12-2004, 11:00 AM

I will probably go with the xtm 24.7 or the Hyper 21 8 port. I love the 24.7 in my Mammoth but Ace Hardware hobbies has the 8 port for $120. Will my stock header work with either of the engines?

CRSMP5

05-12-2004, 11:37 AM

yes it will fit both.. BUT the 8 port carb is junk.. after the 2 gal point having the carb keep tune is not easy.. aka the 60$ os 20e carb fix

luvmypro

05-12-2004, 11:52 AM

CRSMP5, sounds like you had a bad deal on yours. I've been running mine for a few months now, around 3 gal fuel so far, but my buddy and 4 other people at our track run them with none of the problems that you are stating. I'll admit, it took a little while getting used to the touchy tuning of the carb, but it's very simple once you get used to it. It's been a very smooth runnng motor for me, and the guys at the track love theirs. That's why I bought mine. How can you compare an RB to it, of course an RB is a better engine, it cost twice as much. I would hope it is better for that price! If I had $300, I'd have an RB too, but at the time I didn't. But I am very please with my Picco 26. But I do agree, the RB is a better motor, but that is to be expected cause of the price difference. ;)

kevinmcdade

05-12-2004, 03:02 PM

I just got back from the Hobbytown...I picked up a Hyper 8 port. It was $20 more than Acehardware Hobby but I don't mind supporting my local hobby shops. I just noticed that the engine does not come with a glow plug. I use O.S. A3 plugs in all of my other engines...will the A3 be okay for the 8 port?

Has anyone done a side-by-side comparison of the XTM 24.7 and the Hyper 21 8 port? I can't wait to see how my buggy is going to compare to my 24.7 powered Mammoth. I am finishing break-in on the Mammoth, running at 180-190 degrees, and it is crazy fast...I am scared to see what it's going to do when it's tuned and running at 230-260 degrees :D With the Hyper 21 8 port powering my Lightning will it be just as fast as my Mammoth?

CRSMP5

05-12-2004, 07:19 PM

make sure to take the 8 port completly apart before ya use it.. mine had metal in it from the taping of the glow plug hole.. so quality assurance is NONE.. and ofna warentee sux ass too..

id rather run a 8 port then a picco.. why my picco has so little run time on it..

Casey

05-13-2004, 05:03 PM

Hey fellow Lightning owners. I just picked up a second Lightning Pro rolling chassis and need a few engine accessories to get it up and running. If anyone has these and would like to sell for a good price please PM me. Clutch shoes and springs I can pick up anywhere, but the rest I need. Thanks.

HBSC8083 - flywheel 3-shoe

HBSC8029 - 13 tooth clutch bell

HBSC8043 - clutch shoes

HBSC8045 - clutch springs

HBSC8117 - engine mount set

CRSMP5

05-13-2004, 05:56 PM

i have flywheel, 13t cb, springs, mounts... what ya offerin for them? i do not have shoes though.. i dislike the lightning flywheel set up, i prefer savage ones so i can run ofna cb on it with no piolet shaft adapters.. they are also new from my lp2.. i just used the shoes though so lack them..

FlashLCD33

05-13-2004, 11:58 PM

I'm looking for a Pro1 roller for parts.. no engine or radio gear would be best.

I ended up screwing my buggy up today.. hard. Bent chassis, busted wing mount, busted bumper, and snapped rear brace. I ordered my parts from atomicmotorsports and he said i'd have them by monday. How much better can it get? Call him at 6 PM thursday, and he says i'll have them by monday.

I ended up getting:
Pro2 chassis
Pro2 wing mount
Pro1 f/r CNC braces

CRSMP5

05-14-2004, 06:03 AM

he has great service is all i can say.. so what did ya do to do that much carnage?

kevinmcdade

05-14-2004, 06:49 AM

I finished the break in of my 8 port and all I can say is, WOW!!! It was my first time driving my Lightning so I don't have anything to compare it to. This this is crazy fast through the entire RPM range. It was a pain in the arse to get started and right when I was gonna give up, I heard it start to turn over so I continued. Once the engine was started, I had a hard time keeping it running. It was a tough procedure but I FINALLY got it running and sitting at idle after about an hour. I got it broken in and was able to run a couple of more tanks through it and was able to keep the temps around 230-240. The engine is great and the buggy handles like nothing else I have ever driven. My other nitros are MT's. This buggy goes exactly where you want it to go even with the stock servo. I can't wait to take it to the track.

My Lightning is a Lightning I RTR RR. Is there anything I need to make sure I have extras of before I go to the track? Where can I order the spare parts from?

CRSMP5

05-14-2004, 08:28 AM

from a page ago.. 2 places i would deal with...

330-532-1783 they have 2 or 3 hanging on the wall.. :)

also any other parts you want call them they have a great supply...

for the cradocks check out http://www.atomicmotorsports.com/main.htm fast fast service.. and i agree on the pro tires.. BUT check out the panther tire deals they have there.. im runing the Chameleon on my lp2 and they hook up pretty damb well.. the med/soft compount is the same compount hb used on the pro tires.. i needed another set of good tires ad my pro1 tires showing their year old age in wear.. and for a complete set of wheels shipped for 50$ is hard to beat.. and you can buy more sets at nice discounts for the more sets you order also.. i ordered from him on a sat before 8am and had them monday morning! so customer service is great.. he also has LP2 parts listed on his page too.. but no anti bend rods.. but browns has them i beleive aka # above

http://advantageracingproducts.com///multispokes.JPG
i have those wheels with the Chameleons and so far for the price of 4.. like i said great deal on them with tires, are strong and not wrped/cracked and have a good 45 min of run time on them now after the 5 min qualifier, 10 min qualifier, 15min main, and 15 min from the last time i had them out, along with 5-6 tanks of practice time on them.. starting to show little wear but not much.

i also have a ws7II in mine with a 16t cb.. its sick.. but IMO a 8 port race with a os 20e carb on it runs really nice.. have that in my lp1... took the junk picco 26 out..

Ooopps

05-14-2004, 06:44 PM

I second Atomicmotorsports, I ordered 0º and the 3º Front aluminum supports (standard on LP2), had them in no time. Also as a side note, I picked up a Fantom Fr21 non-pullstart for the ole LP. If it would stop raining I could finish breaking it in.

RCILaser

05-14-2004, 11:02 PM

Ooopps I got all the other parts in that you were asking about to change the front end over to the PRO2. I only got in one set of the 22Deg. hubs. The rest are on back order. Was there some thing else that you were asking about?

Robert Rienhardt
Atomic Motorsports

Ooopps

05-14-2004, 11:32 PM

Basically all of the parts to convert the front end over to the PRO 2..

Upper an lower arms
turnbuckles
22º C-Hubs

Let me know.

FlashLCD33

05-15-2004, 03:15 AM

kevinmcdade

05-15-2004, 10:51 AM

kevinmcdade-

The stock servo works fine for a few tanks before it gives out. The only real upgrade you'll need before you can hit the track is some nice servos. You can go the expensive route or the cheap route. The cheap route (i went for) are the Hitec 645MG (steering) and Hitec 625MG (throttle). These things work awesome in the buggy and turn it on a DIME. 1/4 brake locks up all 4 tires.. as soon as i get my MX3 tomorrow i'm going to have to dial out some of the braking. The more expensive route would be Futabas or Hitecs. They're really just better servos, but they cost twice as much. They last longer, but the Hitecs are still great.

Thanks for the info. I have already opted to go the less expensive route. I'm going to use 625mg's for steering and throttle though...I want the extra speed up front. I have not decided which FM transmitter I am going to use yet. I will be placing my order at Tower Monday morning.

FlashLCD33

05-15-2004, 01:58 PM

The 625s will do you good.

As far as an FM transmitter, look at the Airtronics MX3. It's cheap ($100) and has a load of features. I'll be getting mine in about 2 hours (whenever the mail man comes) and i'll let you know how it is. Gotta make sure the rx fits in the box :D

CRSMP5

05-15-2004, 11:31 PM

to goto the 22* set up all you need is the c hub and upper arm and top bolts into the steering knuckle.. the lower arms are still same.. just look different.. originals are more beefy though..

i got my rb 28 today... yes im thinking of throwing it in a buggy.. sick sick i say sick.. but ill race it tomarrow in the savage.. bet it would pull a 20-22t cb..

kevinmcdade

05-15-2004, 11:34 PM

I'm very familar with the MX3...I bought one and used it when they first came out. Its a good transmitter but I was not crazy about the feel of it which is why I sold it. I'm going to try the Futaba or the JR. I placed the order today for my servos but I'm going to wait a couple of more weeks until I decide which transmitter I am going to get. I have someone wanting to trade me a Hyper 7 for my Mammoth and I want to see what kind of goodies he will be including with the deal.

FlashLCD33

05-16-2004, 05:48 PM

Well i got the MX-3, pretty comfortable i must say. Personally i think Futaba are the most comfortable radios, but this certainly isn't bad.

I have everything torn down.. hopefully my parts are in tomorrow so i can reassemble evrything.

Upstate Bob

05-16-2004, 11:42 PM

What's up everyone. I just sold my HPI E-Rally and bought a Lightning RTR1, it should be here tue or wed. I can't wait. A couple of things...

I'm wondering if the servo I picked up at my LHS today will work in my Lightning when it gets here. It's a Hitec 645MG but it's got the Hitec/JR/z connector on it. Does the radio that comes with my RTR use that? I can't find any info on the radio at all. If it does use the Futaba J connector (which I suspect it does) can I get the Hitec to work in it anyway? Like, can I remove the pins from the connector and plug them into an empty J connector?

Thanks, I'll put up pics as soon as I get it (flying over things, of course.)

P.S. What's up with us being stuck in 'Misc. Vehicles' :confused:

FlashLCD33

05-17-2004, 12:09 AM

The stock reciever can use either Futaba or the universal (hitec/jr/z) connector with no modifications at all. The 645 is what i use, you'd be suprised at how tight you can turn with it. I also use a 625 for throttle/brake, and it works awesome.

You're going to love the buggy, it's just AWESOME.

Yeah, we got screwed :(. If you read back, there used to be a Hot Bodies thread, but not any more :( :mad:

PETITION!

Upstate Bob

05-17-2004, 12:26 AM

Thanks for your reply, that's a load off my mind. I really didn't want to make the drive to the LHS again. Trying to save gas these days. :(

I'm going to use this servo for steering for a while then when I get my new radio (either the MX-3 or 3PM) I'm going to get a digital servo for steering (epa seems real cool, gotta love the gadgets) and move the 645 to the brakes/throttle.

Ah, I can't wait till it gets here, I should have coughed up the extra $$$ for expedited shipping. :cool:

CRSMP5

05-17-2004, 12:23 PM

"P.S. What's up with us being stuck in 'Misc. Vehicles"

funny part notice how this is v3... there is over 100 pages of thread on the lightning.. they chop it every 40 or so pages and start a new thread.. i think the real issue is this is the only HB item they sell (its made by someone else and rebadged hb and imported to the usa) thats worth a crap..

i broke a shock shaft on the lp2.. got rear ended.. but ive heard the ofna 3.5mm shafts will fit so picked some up to see. races yesterday sucked.. the 2...... ill be nice "people" really do ruin the whole race for fun attitude.. heard of a new track i need to go check out north of me.. maybe there will be less **** rententive people (opps was not so nice that time) there...

NitroLightning

05-17-2004, 03:53 PM

"P.S. What's up with us being stuck in 'Misc. Vehicles"

funny part notice how this is v3... there is over 100 pages of thread on the lightning.. they chop it every 40 or so pages and start a new thread.. i think the real issue is this is the only HB item they sell (its made by someone else and rebadged hb and imported to the usa) thats worth a crap..

what he means is a Hot Bodies thread, like you know how Ofna has a thread, Cen has a thread, Kyosho...
Hot Bodies Consists of the lightning rtr rr, lightning rtr rr2, lightning pro1, lightning pro2, lightning street, dirt demon, and tornado rtr. So all of these would be under the Hot Bodies thread.

FlashLCD33

05-17-2004, 04:27 PM

I agree. If all those other low-end companies (not naming names) get their own thread for just a few cars, we should definatly have our own.

I got my stuff in from RCILaser today (aka atomicmotorsports), WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY awesome. Got everything cheap and the guy is as nice as it can get. He even threw in an antenna tube, may not be much but it just shows he cares about his customers.. and to tell the truth i actually needed one. I ordered the stuff on thursday around 6:30 pm and have it monday, that's top notch. Never hesitate to order from him!!!

Upstate Bob

05-17-2004, 05:39 PM

Yeah, I ordered the Cradock brakes from his last night, got a payment recieved notice right away, shipping was real cheap, can't wait to get the brakes on. Seems like a really good place to shop.

Edit - He does need to fix that sidebar menu on the website though. No offense, but just make it stay put, up at the top left of the page. It forces itself down to the bottom and in addition to being distracting and somewhat annoying it comes off cheap and unprofessional. Honestly, no offense intended, just some constructive criticism.

:)

FlashLCD33

05-17-2004, 08:14 PM

Yeah, i thought the same about the bar also.

This guy is a lightning fast shipper, if i ever need any parts for my buggy he's the first place i'm turning.

My buggy is looking beautiful and running great, check out my thread in the Nitro Forum to see new pics and stuff :).

CRSMP5

05-17-2004, 10:53 PM

i think the real issue is this is the only HB item they sell (its made by someone else and rebadged hb and imported to the usa) thats worth a crap..

FlashLCD33

05-17-2004, 11:15 PM

I agree, but there are still 5-6 vehicles. Look at some of the "other" cars out there, most of them are not worth a crap but they still have their own thread :( .

Anybody have Pro1 front/rear shock towers? I need :)

Upstate Bob

05-18-2004, 04:06 AM

Flash, did the guy that sold you the chassis and brace sell you his personal parts, or does he have more of the same for sale. I'd like to pick up the Pro1 braces if they'll work with the RR chassis.

Also, I see you talking about using your MX3 to limit the braking on your lightning. I'm thinking about buying an MX3 but I'm curious if I need something other than my Hitec 645MG to take advantage of the MX3's servo adjusting features. I guess what I'm trying to say is, do you know if I can make end point adjustments on my 645MG with the MX3.

Thanks :)

cbr74

05-18-2004, 10:09 AM

The chassis braces are unchanged for the Lightning's and will fit all versions (L1, L2, RR, Pro)

The MX-3 has no special requirements for servos, any brand will work and give you all options. (EPA's, Dual Rates, etc)

Casey

05-18-2004, 12:43 PM

Does anyone know if the Ofna/Picco Comp .21 is a direct bolt-in on the Lightning? Ace Hardware Hobbies has them on sale for $139.99 and I was thinking about giving one a try.

http://acehardwarehobbies.com/2.2/catalog/images/51215.jpg

cbr74

05-18-2004, 12:49 PM

It should be... my Picco XP dropped into my LP w/ no problem.

Upstate Bob

05-18-2004, 04:46 PM

FlashLCD33

05-18-2004, 04:46 PM

Upstate Bob-
When i talked to him on thursday i believed he had just gotten a shipment of parts. The pro2 chassis, and pro2 wing mounts were NIP but he didn't have any of the braces NIP, so he sold me his personal ones.

I use a Hitec 645MG for steering, and a Hitec 625MG for throttle. I left the braking how it is since i put in the MX-3 reciever (TINY btw) because that seemed to fix it, but the throttle i had to limit to nearly 50% just to get all of the "extra" throttle out of the linkage. What I mean by extra, is with the stock electronics/linkage 50% throttle on the transmitter is full throttle on the engine. So if you go any more then that, it squeezes the tubing and puts quite a bit of load on the servo.

The 645 and 625 have no problems with the MX-3, as long as you have the Z connectors on them. If you have the Futabas, you just have to cut off the little tab to get them to fit.

The MX-3 is an amazingly easy radio to use. There are 4 buttons, Menu left and right, and + or -. It has 5 model memory so you dont have to adjust your trims and end points for other cars and you can program all your stuff for your other cars under a different model.. and all you have to do to get to them is go to the model tab and hit + or -. Do yourself a favor and spend about 20 minutes getting used to how to get to everything, and after that it's a peach. The digital trims are SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO much nicer then the little nobs, you can get it going exactly straight instead of just a little off. It has 3 other knobs, throttle trim and steering trim and dual rate. I just set the dual rate all the way up for when i'm bashing around, but i guess if your track isn't very tight you can turn it down some. Throttle trim and steering trim you just push the knob left or right and it will beep at you to let you know when you've hit it, and they go in very precise increments.

It doesn't have a ton of features (i wish it had lap counting, so i can see how long i can go before a refuel) but just what you need. Dual rate, end point adjustment, arc, model memory, sub trim,servo reversing and it shows you how full your battery is. It's a great radio IMO.

FlashLCD33

05-18-2004, 04:56 PM

Also, for the braces + pro2 wing mount, you need some machine screws and nuts. You'll either have to buy some from him (not sure on the size), or if you have a Kyosho screw kit you can use those. I used the ones out of my Kyosho screw kit (the one in the little blue box) and they fit perfectly (with a little help of plyers getting them in to the wing mount hole:p)

Upstate Bob

05-18-2004, 06:50 PM

Great write up Flash, thanks a million for the effort. Now if this thing would just hurry up and get here...

:)

cbr74

05-18-2004, 06:58 PM

(Just noticed you're getting some Cradock's) Good call, they are awesome.

I totally agree with Flash about the MX-3... bang for the buck, no other radio can touch it. BUT... you might want to consider waiting for the "S" version. (synthesized) Having all 30 channels at your finger tips is oh so nice.

FlashLCD33

05-18-2004, 08:12 PM

The MX-3S does look super sweet, i love how it has the extra LCD screen to tell you the channel. As long as you're not racing with a bunch of others, you shouldn't have any problems with frequencys. If you're racing with a big group of others, definatly opt for the MX-3S.

FlashLCD33

05-18-2004, 08:13 PM

BTW, I have a video up of my Lightning. No sound :(

www . rc pics . net/members/FlashLCD33
Just take out the spaces.

Pretty good bashing around, couldn't find anything to make the jump bigger though :(. For a full type up check out my thread in the Nitro Forum.

luvmypro

05-19-2004, 03:16 PM

Wasn't sure if anyone was interested, I still have my Pro1 that I'm selling, Has JR Racing Servos (High Torque for the steering), All new arms, diffs, pins. The diffs have savage hardened gears in them. Futaba radio. New Tank with extra new tank (NIB). Needs a motor. Chassis is straight, just cosmetic scratches. I want $200, but I'll talk to anyone interested.

Also, I'm considering selling my Pro2. 2 months old. It's in perfect shape. Picco 26 on it with about 3 1/2 gal. run through it. Venom fail safe. HT 645MG Servo for the Steering, 625 for the throttle. Awesome and wicked fast car. I just bought a quad and haven't messed around with the car since. (except for a ride lastnight) The fun just aint there anymore. I'm looking for around $550 on the Pro 2, but I will also consider reasonable offers, if it aint close to what I want, I'll hold on to it. I don't need the cash, but just hate to see stuff sitting around. I have an extra set of Savage tires/wheels that also bolt up to the Pro 2. I ran them on my Pro 1 a few times...looked like a little truggy. But would definitley jump better (landings). I'l put on Ebay in a couple weeks if I don't see much of a response. If interested, let me know. Thanks guys!!!! Also, thanks for all the tips and help on my Pros since I started with them. You guys (this site) have been really helpful!!!!! Thanks again!

FlashLCD33

05-19-2004, 07:04 PM

luvmypro, i've been emailing you about your pro1 for a while now ever since i got your email. My just be that account, email me at racer5989@hotmail.com

I was wondering if i could get the pro1 without radio gear.

CRSMP5

05-20-2004, 06:55 PM

the ofna 2 speed i used..
35011
requires
A-17 brake joint
A-20 center diff mount
7x19x5mm bearings x2
5x5 set screw
A-22 center plate
A-21 brake cam and plastic bushing

its pricy.. but i did have it installed in my lp1, rember you require a front driveshaft, drill 4 new holes and a savage flywheel.

k_bojar

05-21-2004, 10:15 AM

I know I've asked this before, but....

Does anybody (or can anyone) scan a copy of the Lightning manual?? I lost mine when I moved and need to re-order some new hardware - wanna replace the "stock" screws with newer stainless ones

Anyone?? help, please :D

Upstate Bob

05-21-2004, 02:07 PM

I'm just about through with the break in, can't wait to start jumping it around the local BMX track. So far the upgrades are just the Hitec 645MG steering servo and a purple Ofna horn for it. lol Oh, I also masked off the windows and backed the paint with black so it'd be a bit more durable. Odd side effect though, the pink stripe turned red after I backed it, can't say I'm complaining about that though.

http://mywebpage.netscape.com/Bob%20Nooga/RC/HB_Driv_Side.jpg

http://mywebpage.netscape.com/Bob%20Nooga/RC/HB_Pass_Side.jpg

http://mywebpage.netscape.com/Bob%20Nooga/RC/HB_Top_Shot.jpg

I'll try to get some action shots later today. :)

A couple of questions...

You think I can use K&N filter oil spray on my Lightning's air filter? I'm running out of my dad's filter oil and it's about time to clean and oil it.

How should the front wheel's toe be set? They came pointing out in the front (you can kind of see it in the top view) and I'm more used to seeing them at dead 0 or even pointing in a bit in the front with my RC10 back in the day.