HB Lightning RR Forum v3.0 [Archive] - Page 6

luvmypro

09-24-2004, 02:55 PM

This weekend, I'm posting on Ebay if anyone is interested...

Ofna Picco .26 - Less than 1 gallon of 20% run through. Broke in professionally. Never run over 280 degrees. Comes with Roto Start Set up and 7.2v battery. Also three shoe flywheel and filter assembly included. Engine has great compression. Reason for selling - Need the cash. Thanks and happy bidding.

JR Racing Servos - One High Torque 590 Steering Servo. Works perfect and awesome upgrade to any stock car/truck. reason for selling - trying to get cash to upgrade engine in my LP 2. Thanks and happy bidding.

JR Racing Servos - High Speed 270 throttle Servo. Works perfect and awesome upgrade to any stock car/truck. reason for selling - trying to get cash to upgrade engine in my LP 2. Thanks and happy bidding.

Lightning Pro 1 roller chassis. MOSTLY NEW PARTS!!! Brand New Arms, Center Diff, Shock Rebuilds, Fuel Tank. Front and Rear diffs have the HPI Savage hardened gears in them. I kept the wing and wing mount. Besides that it's a complete roller chassis. I was keeping this chassis as a spare for my Pro 2, but I need cash to upgrade my Pro 2 engine.

Email me at rtournay2000@yahoo.com if anyone is interested. I'm not looking to make a "load" of money off this stuff...just enough to help pay for the Rb S5.

CR...I'll throw you an email when I get it... I think I may order it this week and compensate myself after this stuff sells. I want to do this thing right. Do I need a started box to then with the RB? Let me know when is a good time to hook up, thanks.

CRSMP5

09-24-2004, 07:39 PM

well i have a starter box i can loan ya... but id look into emailing eric to mod the crank and get 8 port pull start stuff from ebay and run it with pull start... eric is up in cleveland and he has modded 2 for me.. well one for me and one for a guy from central that mike owns now..

CRSMP5

09-25-2004, 08:33 PM

well today i modded my front output drive cups on the LSP.. now i get full suspention movement and less rotating mass :)

now what else did i do to it.. the center diff is fixed and i went and added the missing loctite to all screws into aluminum... even the shock bolts lacked it... what happened HB? every other lightning ive owned had loctite...

the roll bar/carry handle has been notched for the set screws also...

b willis

09-26-2004, 05:06 PM

hi guys anyboby know of any adjustable engine mounts that will fit the lightning pro/rr?. many thanks

CRSMP5

09-26-2004, 06:56 PM

how do they need to adjust? what engine are you trying to fit in it? most 21 size engines and all but the ofna force ones i know of are direct drop in..

fanke19

09-27-2004, 07:37 PM

So this is the deal. I picked up a Pro2 a while back for a good deal ( used )...with intent to sell it. Since then, I had decided to keep it...after very little response on Ebay. Well...I started thinking twice about keeping it again. I already have a Pro1...and I really wanted to have two of the same buggies for backup reasons. I can't afford to lose money on my current Pro1, and I'll never find another used Pro2 this clean for a cheap enough price. Is anybody interested in a swap? My Pro2 for your Pro1? I'm very motivated...and willing to consider just about anything! This is a rolling chassis...no engine or radio. I haven't run this buggy at all since I unpacked it from the box...all I know is what the seller told me about it...this Pro2 has been set up with Kanai front end for racing...but I don't know the difference! It will come with the manual, set of RC Screwz, and the other usual extras like linkages, a-arms, hub and knuckle parts, etc. Anyway, if anybody is interested...email me at fanke19@yahoo.com

http://f19motorsports.com/ebayhtml/f19pro2/f19pro2-007.jpg http://f19motorsports.com/ebayhtml/f19pro2/f19pro2-014.jpg http://f19motorsports.com/ebayhtml/f19pro2/f19pro2-016.jpg http://f19motorsports.com/ebayhtml/f19pro2/f19pro2-017.jpg

CRSMP5

09-27-2004, 08:31 PM

kani is same as the pro1 you have... honestly id keep both of them.. thats the only real differance which is the same as your pro1 already... the pro 2 has a better radio box also... well better lay out IMO.. i wish the stadium came with pro2 over the pro1..

Casey

09-28-2004, 10:58 AM

Matt - I'm surprised you didn't ask me. I've got two Pros...

RCILaser

09-28-2004, 11:22 AM

Kani: Do you know that is not a 100% Pro2, The front hubs are Pro1 and the wing mount is Pro1 , and it also looks like the front upper arms are Pro1 depending on which front suspension blocks and has gone zero degree or the three degree that car should handle the same as your Pro1 . it may have the Pro2 shocks that they have not proven to be any better than the Pro1 I prefer the White Springs over the yellows . but that's no biggie , you may want to just consider keeping it because as time goes on parts for the Pro1 will be harder and harder to get that way you can keep this car going for a while longer , because it will except the Pro2 parts

Robert Rienhardt
Atomic Motorsports , soon to be renamed RCI hobbies
We Race Little Cars in Big Way

CRSMP5

09-28-2004, 11:42 AM

actually... the only major change from pro2 to pro1 is on the new stadium (front c hubs that gs storm and others use).. so cannot see those parts going anywhere.. tanks, radio layout can be changed.. but then again only the tank is a issue for some to find..

the upper arms suck vs a pro1 though.. no adjustable turnbuckle and i missed the pro1 wing mount...

also the pro 2 chassis has all the proper holes for pro1 parts..

CRSMP5

09-28-2004, 12:28 PM

http://www.radiocontrolzone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=179238

wowwie.. it finally posted.. we have a hb lightning stadium thread in the mt section... so ill post to that thread to keep from cluddering up our buggy bible here..

luvmypro

09-28-2004, 04:39 PM

how much is something like that cost? and what kind of pull starter do I need?

CRSMP5

09-28-2004, 06:22 PM

the crank needs milled.. 50$ cost to eric.. pull start stuff... ebay, 8 port pull start, back plate, start shaft and 1 way bearing... if you pay attention to ebay thats a 30-40$ for all parts and hardware with shipping... people take apart the engines and sell them a parts kits...

luvmypro

09-29-2004, 04:13 PM

that's cool...I'l start keeping an eye out. My Picco went for $83. Not too bad, but I was really hoping for a little more. Anyway, it get's me started on my way of having the cash towards the RB. I have my roller chassis...if anyone is interested, still up. I haven't posted it up on Ebay yet. Probably get rid of it for $80. Complete Pro 1 roller except for the wing and mount. Mostly all new parts (arms, pins, diff, center diff & tank).
Also JR racing servos Z590 High torque and a Z270 for the throttle/brake. Sale both for $35, both fairly new. Also 4 tires on moded rims froma Savage SS to fit a Lightning buggy for $25. Ofna controller and reciever for $20. :cool:

pete2222

09-29-2004, 06:10 PM

Hi
Can any of you lightning owners give me a bit of advice please. I have a new lightnng 2 RTR with the standard.26 engine. I just bought an infrared temp sensor to see how hot it was running and to help tuning.

I've found that to keep it running at 270 F or less, I need to run it really rich- richer even than the factory settings (It's 4.25 tuns out at the top end). Do you know if this is normal, or might I have something wrong with the engine. If I run it any leaner, the temp soon goes above 300 which I think will damage the engine.

thanks for your help :confused:

CRSMP5

09-29-2004, 08:39 PM

honestly ive found the force engines liek the 26 likes to run close to 300... so 270 is a great temp.. it could be a air leak, loss of pressure like a fuel hose has a hole in it if its still a issue... next.. dont nessasarly beleive temp guns.. ive seen quite a drastic differance between them on the same engine... if you have lots of smoke, oil comming out of the pipe and can touch the head for a few seconds all is well...

80$ huh... you ra mean mean man... you wanna goto browns sat? i can meet ya there with cash and u can see the new lsp ;)

luvmypro

09-30-2004, 01:18 PM

I can probably meet ya up there and drop it off to you. Less hassle that way. I live in New Cumberland (20 minutes to East liverpool or 15 to Weirton)...are you any closer to there? I can hook up with you Sat morn. I have a honeydo list so long you wouldn't believe. But if you need me to, I can swing up to Browns. Got any decent used engines with pull starts? One that I can use in my Pro till I can get my RB. It's gonna be next season till I get the RB. I had to use the money from my sold Picco for something else. Sooo, as of right now, the RB will be in the future. Let me know where you want to hook up. :)

CRSMP5

09-30-2004, 06:03 PM

luvmypro

10-01-2004, 08:08 AM

engines... i have a used s-25 with lots of compression from a savage and the new 26 from the stadium thats never seen fuel... my 8 port race with pull start is sitting waiting for buggy over the winter months.. not running the 300$ engines jumping snow banks if ya know what i mean.. im up by youngstown so comming from ne of browns.. tomarrow night we will have to finalize this.. i may have to work sat.. but my plans for sat is to race and practice some with the new lsp..

Let me know. I have a bonfire to go to tonight up in Washington, Pa. If you're interested, I could hook up with you around East Liverpool late this evening. Just let me know. What do you want for either of the two engines that you're not using?

CRSMP5

10-01-2004, 12:07 PM

i sent ya a pm...

fanke19

10-01-2004, 04:19 PM

So after a very helpful conversation with Robert from Atomic ( Thanks Bob ) :) , I have come to the conclusion that the best thing for me to do is to keep the Pro2, and just use that as my primary buggy. Also, he convinced me that the next thing I should spend money on is for sure a decent radio...seeing as my current setup includes the stock Traxxas RTR 3 channel from my Tmaxx! :o Don't laugh...it's been great to me all this time! And where else can you get a receiver for your buggy that only costs $12 new! Anyway...looks like I'll be hunting for a deal on a Programmable 75MHz FM radio.

Furthermore, it hit me...why don't I just turn one of the two Lightnings into a Truggy? I could retire the Tmaxx to shelf queen status in the garage...since I don't have money to maintain three r/c's...and it inherently handles like sh*t anyway?!

I could rob the retired Tmaxx for parts such as heavy duty servos, electronics, tires, wheels, bodies, etc...and I would have practically zero money out of pocket necessary to complete the project...except for the hubs, body mounts, etc that I could fabricate myself ( for free ).

I was thinking I'd truggy-ize the LP1...since the LP2 is supposed to be a superior handling buggy chassis? I planned on tearing the LP1 down to completely this winter for a fresh-up...so regardless I'll have two dis-assembled chassis waiting for the transplant.

So now I just need to hunt down some Truggy Project Literature so that I can see the hardware I need to duplicate! Any leads?

CRSMP5

10-01-2004, 06:34 PM

well first off.. im the truggy man to talk too.. so is Robert.. the ideal thing to do is get a set of suspention arms for the new lightning stadium.. the 2nd way is to use savage arms.. Robert told me of where to find that info :)

but a few threads up i posted the link to the mt section discussing the stadium pro i have.. there is also alot of info in this thread on it too..

pete2222

10-02-2004, 02:36 PM

Hi
I have burnt out 4 glowplugs while going through the first gallon in my new lightning2 RTR. Can anyone advise if there is something major wrong, or is this normal?

Thanks for your advice.

(I have been using model technics 20% formular irvine fuel , and the glow plugs were 2x HPI R4, one firepowerF5, and a model technics firepower F4)

CRSMP5

10-02-2004, 11:01 PM

are they melted or fouled out? if melted too lean.. if fouled out too rich still needign tuned.. fouled = not shinny silver..

Casey

10-03-2004, 03:18 PM

To anyone who owns or has owned both the LP1 and LP2 I have a question. I own two LP1s, and have raced an LP1 since April,2003. Does the LP2 handle noticably better than the LP1? I'm looking for a new race buggy for next year, and this is a possibility. The others I'm interested in are the Xray XB8, MP777, and the Jammin' X1CR.

CRSMP5

10-03-2004, 08:16 PM

Casey

10-03-2004, 08:20 PM

honestly.. i hated the pro2's turning.. i took Roberts idea a few pages back and modded a set of pro1 c hubs (photos on that page) to lesen my caster and WOW much better.. also for the lay down servo you can do that with a set of mayhem servo mounts.. the tank and such.. honestly i cannot feel any differance.. now i also want a new xray.. its just sweet.. but i cannot see a reason to give up on the lightning... if you do plan too.. i picked up luvmypro's pro1 today and plan to staidum arm it and such to see how a short wheel base version does vs long wheel base.. so at least ya no have to give up on the buggy even if ya make a truggy..

I'm not giving up on the Lightning. I'll be keeping the two I have. If nothing else, they make an excellent bashing buggy. Just looking for something else that's going to drive a little better. A few of the guys at our track are going to be picking up 777s and ProSpecs for next year. The XB8 is at the top of my list, but I've been spoiled with the LP1s nice price tag, quality and durability. It's gonna be hard dropping $500 plus on a buggy kit after owning my Lightnings.

blackgtx

10-03-2004, 09:01 PM

I just picked up a lightning rr must be version 1. I am tring to find parts for this thing where do you get them from.
I need:
1 new front alum. piece #c8078
1 new front gear box #c8009
1 new #c8116
1 new #c8116
1 new #c8003
1 new #c8118
and the stabaliser bar and all the hold downs
basicly most of the front end

And info on where to buy them would help

Thanks Red

CRSMP5

10-03-2004, 11:27 PM

http://www.atomicmotorsports.com/main.htm

microrcdude

10-04-2004, 12:20 AM

#c8078: http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXHZK3&P=7
#c8009: http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXHZG0&P=7
#c8116: http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXHZL4&P=7
#c8116: http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXHZL4&P=7
#c8003: http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0095p?FVPROFIL=++&FVSEARCH=C8003&FVPROFIL=++
#c8118: http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXHZL7&P=7

blackgtx

10-04-2004, 08:08 AM

thanks for the response I did a little more digging and found all the parts at www.rcmodels.com but I will book mark the links you guy's gave me for future distruction. Also will any of the ofna buggie parts fit it would be great if they did the lhs has alot of their parts. I had just bought this thing after it was crashed into a curb on first try at break in I hope I got all the parts and for $175.00 I guess I cant go wrong.

Thanks Andy

luvmypro

10-04-2004, 12:12 PM

Just a quick note...thanks for the deal on the engine. just had to tune a little, it runs great. I richend it up a little just to get a little more life out of it. running around 220 max. but hey...thanks again.

PICCO 26 is Junk....just thought I'd throw that out there. :D :D :D

CRSMP5

10-04-2004, 05:28 PM

sweet.. i was wondering about ya today as i was piecing the roller together.. just need a steerign servo and she ready to break in the hb 26 to see what its like..

low10s

10-05-2004, 06:06 AM

any of you had any problems loosing fuel pressure when your buggy gets up to temp? mine was loosing pressure when up to temp, before i realized what might be wrong i destroyed and engine. so far i traced it to the fuel cap oring being a little worn.

luvmypro

10-05-2004, 08:21 AM

I have one if you want it CRSMP5. It works fine. It was out of the Pro1 when I tore it down to part it out. I have the throttle Z270 also. Let me know.

blackgtx

10-05-2004, 08:33 AM

Casey

10-05-2004, 10:31 AM

CRSMP5 - After you modded the Pro 1 C-hubs for your Pro 2, did it make a noticeable difference in handling compared to the LP1? Sorry to keep bringing this up, but if I don't have to fork out big bucks for a new "race" buggy I'd rather not. If a Pro2 with modded C-hubs is going to handle better than my Pro1, that may be the way I go. At least for the '05 racing season.

Casey

10-05-2004, 10:36 AM

so what are these lighting rr buggies worth? I have on that is brand new and just ordered the replacement parts that the prevouse owner broke on breakin. I don't know if I want to keep it yet or strip the motor out and sell the rolling chassie and all the electronics.

Andy

My son and my dad both have Lightning RRs. While they don't have all the beefy parts of the Pro version, they can still take quite a beating. My son is notorious for wrecking parts on RCs that shouldn't get wrecked. But even so, his RR is holding up very well. My dad has had his RR for about a year now. With some major bash time as well as racing it this year, it is also holding up quite well. I guess it all depends on how you drive. The Lightning is a very nice handling buggy. Maybe not the best, but FAR from the worst. I say keep it. New ones are going so cheap on Ebay, you can pick one up for parts and be probably be set for a long time.

CRSMP5

10-05-2004, 12:27 PM

casey... the thing turns great now.. no more major oversteer.. it goes like you want.. i beleive me and robert figured out it was a 2* differance in caster which may not seem like much, if i put the 0 castor blocks on it would be 5* stock pro2 is 3* block... he is playing with blocks and back to pro2 c hubs.. all i can say is this.. if you can get the pro2 chassis since i guess your after the lay down servo stuff/tank your pro 1 stuff can be used on it directly... since you own one.. maybe the purchase of a pro 2 chassis and tank and radio tray, under 100$ in parts would be the best way fro ya to do it..

something i noticed sunday at the track, my rear upper turnbucles are wearing at the balls.. somethign that never happened with pro 1 i owned.. im going to use pro1 upper rears to replace them.. but wanted to point that out..

luvmypro.. i got one from mike.. he is thinking of hooking me up with the 3 main parts i wanted from it and building it with his original 21bb and such and giving it to his better half to try to get her racing in the spring.. bu tthanks for the offer.. or its going to become a short wheel base stadium... right now its more of a he can drop his s-25 into his this with the new hb 26 and see which one has more omph.. the 26 should.. but it will be a nice compairison test.. only reason im piecing it together instead of swiping up additional supports for the stadium at this point.. :)

CRSMP5

10-05-2004, 12:28 PM

low10s.. mike has same issue... we changed his cap with my cap from a tank i blew to pieces belly landing it one day.. issue resolved..

RCILaser

10-05-2004, 12:49 PM

CRSMP5: You need to check out my new products that I added to my web site. Go too the main page, then click on new products. Got some new wheels, some pre-mounted 1/8th buggy tires and some pre-mounted monster truck tires.

Robert Rienhardt
Atomic Motorsports
We Race Little Cars in Big Way
www.atomicmotorsports.com

Casey

10-05-2004, 12:54 PM

CRSMP5

10-05-2004, 06:18 PM

id say the stock pro1 is good enough.. its the same set up kani 3 has... the change of the upper arms allows a lower roll center though... but i cannot say im good enough to notice that differance..

Casey

10-05-2004, 06:39 PM

OK, thanks. I guess I'll pass on an LP2 if it's not that different than my LP1s. If I do buy a new race buggy, I think I'll give one of the expensive buggies a try. It's only money, right?

CRSMP5

10-05-2004, 07:55 PM

i know... i really am thinking of buying a xray after xmas..

hey luvmypro.. look at Roberts webpage.. he has the mac21 engines on sale.. requires a starter box.. im interested in seeign if eric can pull start mod it, but from what ive read of them.. customer support is direct over phone and they will help with any issue you may have...

now Robert.. gotta ask.. can you get matching wing for the buggy wheels? ive always wanted a set of kyosho blue wheels and wing.. and just wondering if thats the color it is and if so can a wing be gotten.. i need to call anyways.. need to order up some stadium parts for the pro roller and stadium.. :) hope you get the rc driver mag..

Danno

10-06-2004, 07:56 AM

your right.. all it takes ia a 1/16th turn on the carb to screw you on the picco.. try a hpi s-25 carb.. see if that helps...
Is there a performance loss with the s-25 carb ? I have one and might try it .

CRSMP5

10-06-2004, 12:20 PM

venturi is smaller.. so maybe... ive been running os20e carbs on my 8 port for a long while.. same effect smaller venturi.. but the fact i dont have to mess with needles is a big +

Danno

10-06-2004, 01:11 PM

Also , I tried putting my 24.7 out of my savage in my spare pro1 , the clutch pinion :confused: only engages about half way onto the spur . whats up with that , anyone ?

luvmypro

10-06-2004, 03:47 PM

CRSMP5:
My buddy has also has a Picco 26. Same issues that I had with mine. Is the S25 carb a direct fit with any issues? any other suggestions?

CRSMP5

10-06-2004, 06:46 PM

gr8taz nitro

10-06-2004, 09:37 PM

I know it's slightly off topic but I just had to announce.......My boss is paying to send me to the I-hobby expo in Chicago! I'm gonna get paid to check out all the new R/C goodies. :D

fanke19

10-07-2004, 07:39 AM

the s-25 carb fits picco... i got a spare one of them too... actually a whole engine i wanna send to hpi

what flywheel and clutch bell? if savage flywheel and cb then its not going to fit.. also it would eat the savage cb up for dinner... get a ofna vented hardened cb and its a direct fit with no issues with the savage flywheel..

So...I don't know if I picked up this conversation at the wrong point...but this concerns me. I ordered a new S-25...and I'm going to put it in my Lightning. My buddy bought an S-25, but had a Kanai clutch/flywheel/etc put on, along with a 13t CB. Well, I was thinking since it's such a torque monster of an engine...I was going to try to just run as stock with 15t CB...hoping to get a little more top end speed out of the whole deal. :confused: Am I going to trash the stock CB...should I install the stock CB off my Lightning .21 Force engine? What's the deal? :(

luvmypro

10-07-2004, 01:05 PM

CRSMP5, do you want to sell that carb to my buddy? Do you have Paypal? I can have him pay you adn you could ship it to him. Let me know.

CRSMP5

10-07-2004, 06:08 PM

hpi clutch bells are not hardened.. it will wear out in a matter of tanks.. so yes it is a issue.. sorry...

i really dont wanna give it up luvmypro.. its one of those i need to send it back for warentee type deals just never have..

Saboteur

10-10-2004, 01:07 AM

Anyone know the largest spur and or smallest pinion I could use on the Lightning (rtr1) for a truggy conversion? Gonna try 10k center and 5k F/R for the diffs.

CRSMP5

10-10-2004, 08:49 AM

try a 12t cb.. stock spur is like a 47t if i rember right.. the stadium is 50t, if you have a torque motor like a mach26 or such it should pull it no issue.. id even try a 13t cb.. all i know is with a 15t cb and 50t spur on my stadium have the rossi 28 in it, pulls it with no issue.. also http://www.atomicmotorsports.com/main.htm id email and ask on the rossi 28 if your looking for a engine.. you will need a 2nd set of purple engine mount plates or a different method to shim the engine up 2-3mm due to its pull start.. but for a truggy well worth it..

by the way thanks Robert.. ive told a few people of what ya got going on and they sound as if they will be buying some of the specials.. the biggest your kidding me ive gotten so far is the 1/8th scale premounted buggy tire prices..

Saboteur

10-11-2004, 10:02 PM

BTW, I'm using an RB S5. I don't want a new engine. This has tons of low end for me right now. Maybe I'll try the 12T CB and alum shoes.

CRSMP5

10-12-2004, 11:17 AM

ok.. the s5 try the 12t cb from ofna.. a 063 pipe (bottom end pipe) and some 1.0 springs with good shoes and i think it will not be a issue...

Danno

10-12-2004, 01:16 PM

Hey , I have a Kyosho cluth bell , is it different than an ofna ? because it doesn`t line up with the spur either , this is with a Savage flywheel .
Thanks , Dan

Danno

10-12-2004, 01:20 PM

Oh Yea , I forgot , also in my other buggy (pro 1) I have a picco .26 and am running the stock Hot Bodies pipe , racing on a short technical track , is it ok or is there a better pipe out there ?

CRSMP5

10-12-2004, 05:51 PM

there are better engines out there... but its a ok pipe.. i think back in v1 of this thread it was said to be a copy of a rb 086 pipe..

no idea on the kyosho cb... cannot get them anywhere i shop at but i know ofnas fit perfectly..

Saboteur

10-12-2004, 08:54 PM

Why not use a pipe for more top end? I have quite a lot of low end. I think I'll try the RB 086 pipe and 12CB for now. Still using the stock Mugen clutch and it works great.

CRSMP5

10-12-2004, 10:54 PM

well for a truggy.. more bottom end i think will be the better trade off.. this way if it i sa little over geared for bottom end the pipe should help some..

fanke19

10-15-2004, 10:48 AM

Looking for a place to purchase new sleeve/piston/con rod kit for my Lightning .21 engine. I know it might be more adventageous to just buy a new engine altogether...but I figured you guys would know a source.

CRSMP5

10-15-2004, 09:37 PM

i know where.. call up hobbyfever 978-649-2221.. they have taken apart some 21bbs from savages and are selling the NEW parts from them for a nice deal.. but call them to see if they have any parts left.. this is from a post in teh buy sell trade section of savage central.. ;)

CRSMP5

10-16-2004, 10:20 AM

Robert i tried to call today but i guess i need to call monday.. i kno wwe discussed these one day on th ephone and well here..
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v406/CRSMP5/panther/Python-Flyer-10-04.gif
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v406/CRSMP5/panther/Molded-Foam-Flyer-10-04.gif
i want to order a set of each..

badandy

10-16-2004, 07:10 PM

RCILaser

10-16-2004, 11:46 PM

I have them on order, I will let you know as soon as I receive them. By the way I ran my Stadium truck last week with a set of revo wheels and some cut tires. Was really working well till the front drive shaft broke. But you know about that. The truck started another round of, (we need some rules, and this was coming from the truggy drivers). Seems like this is always the way when the top guy starts getting beat or feels threatened that somebody else may have something better than him. I will let you know, when the tires come in.

Robert Rienhardt
Atomic Motorsports
We were Out Racing Little Cars in a Big Way. When you called

CRSMP5

10-17-2004, 12:10 AM

i know what ya mean.. the last 2 times out with mine i lapped the field min of 1 time.. that was the normal fastest guy on the track.. the others got 2-3 laps behind.. funny part.. during the races i was turning slower lap times then during qualifying.. had no one to race with so was takign it easy...

badandy

10-17-2004, 12:33 AM

Are you guys noticing any more efficiency with the spiral cut gears? I would like to apply them to my Pro2 (was RR1....thanks Robert!) Robert, can you get these gears for me?

RCILaser

10-17-2004, 09:21 AM

Part will be in at the last of the month. I will get what ever they have.

Robert Rienhardt

CRSMP5

10-17-2004, 07:24 PM

i also need a 2nd set of stadium tires.. on clay they are the BOMB.. even with the stock foams i was the only one with traction in the mt races today..

honestly the spiral cut gears are more for a gear reduction for the mt sized wheels.. rember they are 10t on 43t and stock is 13t onto 43t.. never had a issue with stock pinions... and still have not figured otu the difference in drive ratio of the different gears..

badandy

10-17-2004, 08:38 PM

Saboteur

10-19-2004, 11:48 PM

Ordered the 4mm shock towers and rear chassis brace. Should be in next week. :)

ashxxxnt

10-23-2004, 11:57 PM

Saboteur

10-24-2004, 07:16 AM

There isn't a problem with the diffs. That was said about the Older Ofna MBX's, not the HB. I still run my stock HB RTR1 and its awesome. Most of the $$ that was spent on upgrades mostly went towards a new engine. The rest are cheaper.

CRSMP5

10-24-2004, 10:18 AM

there has never been any issue with the stock diffs that ive ever had.. some of them have had issues.. but its not common and even if it was you can use savage gears, gs storm, some ofna ones and so on.. there is a big supply of what can be used.. ive been racign mine fo rover 2 years now.. total parts broken, i have pro versions, is under 60$ 50 of that is wing mounts that ive broken at 5$ each.. bu ttrust me it takes a real real bad jump to break it.. the a set of c hubs and a front diff case from the summer outing and the plywood stop i hit...

badandy

10-24-2004, 08:53 PM

fanke19

10-24-2004, 10:28 PM

Does a Hot Bodies replacement body (RR1) come with window masks? I heard it did not. I need a new body and like the stock body but I don't want to mask out windows. Can I just buy a stock painted body?

Yes, you can just buy a new body that's painted already. Ebay has them on there...people parting out entire cars. I'm going to be parting out a new Lightning RTR1 in the next couple days. They go pretty cheap! Just go to Ebay and type in the search Hot Bodies Lightning. Not too much stuff will come up...so it won't be a total waste of your time.

fanke19

10-24-2004, 10:31 PM

i was looking to buy one of theese tower has them for 289. but i hear that the diff is not good at all and that there is no place that sells parts. i dont want something that cant get parts for. also i heard that some mp stuffworks could some one list what are parts interchange. sorry i know all the info is probally in there but. my comp is soo slow.

I buy RTR's on Ebay to part out...the last one I bought was only $183.00. There is a guy on Ebay that sells them about two or three times a month. That's $183.00 plus $20.00 shipping for a BRAND NEW RTR buggy.

CRSMP5

10-24-2004, 10:56 PM

new bodies do not come with masks.. but id rather mask my own and color it myself..

ashxxxnt

10-25-2004, 11:43 AM

badandy

10-25-2004, 01:18 PM

would this buggy with proper care and some of the pro stuff. would it be ok to race. i need something that would not break and was easy to dail in motor and car. it would just be local races no big races. do any of you gus race them a lot. how do you do. and also what parts of the mp 7.5 do fit like arms and stuff like that. that would be a lot easier to get parts at the lhs.
I started of with a RR1 and ended up with a Pro2....lol. Indeed it is cheaper to buy a Pro2 to start with but I enjoy the upgrades and seeing the changes they make. I never broke anything but a rear diff and was competitive with a tire change to crime fighters and a motor swap to a WS7II. I also dropped in some good servos and used my MX-3. Darn good buggy for the money...in fact for the price it can't be beat. I took second place overall a few weekends back and there were a few KII's and the like there.

CRSMP5

10-25-2004, 04:44 PM

honestly.. find a good pro 1 or pro2 to start off with.. used is good.. and if new if pro1 can be found much more worth it over a pro2 as the pro2 does not have the extra cost in value on the buggy..

Casey

10-26-2004, 08:18 AM

Ultimate Hobbies has the Pro 1 in stock for $289.

http://www.ultimatehobbies.com//l136.html

ashxxxnt

10-26-2004, 02:40 PM

what is the diffence in the pro 1 and the rr is it just the pro dont have the radio or is is there more. also where is the best place to get parts.

ashxxxnt

10-26-2004, 02:58 PM

just seen on ebay lighting rr rtr nib 239.99 buy it now. to bad i just spent that on the xxxnt.

CRSMP5

10-26-2004, 06:38 PM

pro vs rr.. any and all hopups you can possibly use/need like anti bending rods, better shocks, better tires and such..

pro1 no radio

pro2 no radio or engine

parts.. well we have the one LHS i use, called browns 330-532-1783, but not online.. BUT always worth a phone call.. has a nice collection pf parts and 2 pro1s on the shelf..

online.. the 1 and only that keeps/tries to keep parts in stock http://www.atomicmotorsports.com/main.htm.. he visits this forum often and is a great guy to talk to.. very very fast shipping..

ashxxxnt

10-26-2004, 11:20 PM

on the pro 1 is the linkage for the brakes and throttle on there or do you have to get all that stuff for it and is that prebuilt. is that pretty easly to get all things hooked up.

CRSMP5

10-27-2004, 09:56 AM

all you need is electronics w/servo horns for either pro version and a engine for the pro2 version..

the thing goes together real easily, the buggy is prebuilt...

Blacktiger

10-27-2004, 03:00 PM

Also I noticed that Tower Hobbies now has a full listing of the lightning parts. To find them though you have to look at the replacement parts for the Lightning stadium. Looked to be almost every needed part for both the buggy and the truck.

Saboteur

10-27-2004, 05:33 PM

Sweet. Do that have the 4mm shock towers? My LHS just told me that they checked the distributer and they said they don't have any at the moment. Ah well. Time to use up my Tower account. :) Ran my bug today with Odonnels fuel and will never turn to another brand. Total increase in power!:)

Saboteur

10-27-2004, 07:34 PM

Man I had a look for myself and the pro shocks are way more than the 3mm 7075 shock towers for the RTR 2. Weird. I hope its the site. I plan to order from there and not let my Tower sub go to waste. Def need beefier stuff. Going for that brace too. If I had the $$, I'd just get the Pro 2, but I don't. :)

CRSMP5

10-27-2004, 08:28 PM

find a pro1 to buy thats used.. i got one from one of out members for a great deal.. it was under 100$...

Saboteur

10-27-2004, 08:40 PM

Maybe I will. Gonna check that out later on when I get more $$. Need to drop $75 for a monthly bus pass.

Saboteur

10-29-2004, 01:23 AM

I looked all over ebay. No luck on any HB kits:(. There was one guy who tried to pass off his RTR 1 as a pro. Guess since Ofna's are winning now the LHS has no prob getting hyper 7 parts and stuff. I've heard other components on the chassis won't directly fit on the RTR1, but the shock towers (3 or 4mm) should no problem right? Anyone manage to bend the 4mm ones?

charlesd

10-29-2004, 05:56 AM

I still have a lightning pro new in the box. :D

I bought it as a spare and never ended up using it. I never broke anything except for some front suspension parts that where in stock at the local shop.

Saboteur

10-29-2004, 09:35 AM

I keep bending the front shock towers on my ride because the buggy keeps nose diving going off this small bump I have in the park. I just bent it back into shape, but I may check out a Kyosho shock tower at the LHS in the mean time since I'm going there this Saturday. That, the JP pipe ( prob going for the JP 2 for more top end) or RB 086 pipe, new fuel bottle, glow plug, 14T clutchbell and few other stuff.

CRSMP5

10-29-2004, 11:50 AM

stack 2 rtr ones together.. makes it much stronger.. and yea i noticed the rtr as a "pro" version on ebay..

and all pro 1 parts fit rtr 1 chassis, all parts from version 1 fits version 2, its just version 2 tank, front anibend rod (same rod just oppisite side of driveshaft) location, electronics use different holes that are added to the version 2 chassis..

Blacktiger

10-29-2004, 03:05 PM

Yup, stack the towers for sure. I did on mine. Works great and is a cheap fix. I have a post several pages back with pics of how I cracked my rear tower. I have now doubled up the front and rear and have yet to bend them at all. For best results use two 7075 3mm towers. You will need to get some longer screws to mount the top of the shocks as well.

yo yo yoni

10-29-2004, 03:17 PM

i relly like my lightning, i run it with sirio kanai edition, and she rocks!

great job for hot bodies, very very low price and you get a car that hop-up'd like a mbx5 prospec!!!!!!

yo yo yoni

10-29-2004, 03:53 PM

pics of my lightning pro with sirio kanai ed' and new body:

sorry, very bad quality..

http://grm.m.walla.co.il/briefcase/00f3/k/r/a/z/@/@/@/@/@/@/@/@/@/@/@/@/@/@/@/@/@/@/@/@/@/r/200410292145247936/200410292146037554/IMAGE107.jpg

engine close up:

http://grm.m.walla.co.il/briefcase/00f3/k/r/a/z/@/@/@/@/@/@/@/@/@/@/@/@/@/@/@/@/@/@/@/@/@/r/200410292145247936/200410292146363635/IMAGE109.jpg

from the side:

http://grm.m.walla.co.il/briefcase/00f3/k/r/a/z/@/@/@/@/@/@/@/@/@/@/@/@/@/@/@/@/@/@/@/@/@/r/200410292145247936/200410292147162437/IMAGE111.jpg

body details:

http://grm.m.walla.co.il/briefcase/00f3/k/r/a/z/@/@/@/@/@/@/@/@/@/@/@/@/@/@/@/@/@/@/@/@/@/r/200410292145247936/200410292148202993/IMAGE114.jpg

with the body, everybody knows this is a"lightning" :D

CRSMP5

10-29-2004, 07:23 PM

actually yo yo, its not made by hb, they put their name on it and import it.. its a sacker kit.. started off in oz land, moved to europe then came here with the hb name on it.. they use blue anodized parts over there..

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v406/CRSMP5/sacker/sac1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v406/CRSMP5/sacker/sac2.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v406/CRSMP5/sacker/sac3.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v406/CRSMP5/sacker/sac4.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v406/CRSMP5/sacker/sac5.jpg

CRSMP5

10-29-2004, 07:23 PM

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v406/CRSMP5/sacker/sac6.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v406/CRSMP5/sacker/sac7.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v406/CRSMP5/sacker/sac8.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v406/CRSMP5/sacker/sac9.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v406/CRSMP5/sacker/sac10.jpg

CRSMP5

10-29-2004, 07:25 PM

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v406/CRSMP5/sacker/sac11.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v406/CRSMP5/sacker/sac12.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v406/CRSMP5/sacker/sac13.jpg

see blue.. both a pro and a rtr kit.. i still have a thing for the blue version fo the pro.. someday ill find one

yo yo yoni

10-30-2004, 12:56 PM

o.k.
in my car the shock towers and all the alloy stuff is purple.

i dont care from wich company this car came, i just can say that for the price you pay- its absulotly a dream!!!!

i drove the car for almost year with "hot" engines (novarossi, sirio, etc') and i have no problem at all!
accept for the bearings that i cahnged to "avid rc".
i put cva's in the rear too, and she awosome!!!!!!!

i drove my car in shikkein club (in israel)
you can see me and my friends in "neo buggy".

yo yo yoni

10-30-2004, 01:18 PM

http://www.rczone.co.il/articales/petitrc/race1.htm

im yoni im the only one taht have the lightning in the track :)

i get to the b-main after the qualiffing but i have a problem with my engine and i lost the b...

CRSMP5

10-30-2004, 05:51 PM

i dont care either.. its just to be dead honest.. hb tends to make things like dirtdemond which are junk.. the reason thsi buggy is not "one of their norms" is cause its made elsewhere for hb.. :) i aagree its a great buggy.. and the truggy is also sweet.. its review is in the mt section and back a bunch of pages here..

Saboteur

10-30-2004, 11:26 PM

Where can I get longer screws to use on the shock towers? Do I just need longer screws for the shocks absorbers or all the screws that go thru the tower? I'm gonna try this maybe next weekend. Think I may put the .21BB back in for winter bashing when I convert the bug to an MT.

CRSMP5

10-31-2004, 12:47 AM

dubro makes a assortment of screws. add 3mm to the screws or more and all will be well. lhs should have them on the wall..

Danno

10-31-2004, 09:02 AM

Does anyone know what the difference is between the stock p1 springs and the kyosho blue springs ? eveyone at my track tells me I need to ditch the stock springs , how do the stock springs rate 1 to 10 as far as stiffness ?

CRSMP5

10-31-2004, 05:01 PM

they are weak.. BUT to be brutally honest.. the car hooks up real nice witht eh stock ones.. now if the track is real flat, and big jumps, the blues will help as they are stiffer.. if i cad to call the stock yellow ones any weight id say around 2lb.. maybe be 3.. but i call that unrealistic..

low10s

10-31-2004, 05:04 PM

i wanted to get some extra titanium turnbuckles for my Pro 2, but i did not see where lunsford made them. will any of the carbon fiber parts work from other buggys. thanks

CRSMP5

10-31-2004, 06:18 PM

never seen cf or ti for it.. sorry..

low10s

10-31-2004, 10:02 PM

if i need more low speed steering going into a corner, what is a good setup? right now oil weight is 40 front 35 rear, diffs are 3-7-1. rear arms level front slightly above. i want a little more off power steering going into tight turns. thanks

CRSMP5

10-31-2004, 10:07 PM

increased caster, camber more positive i beleive.. hmmm need to look at xray instruction book.. better yet.. here.. http://www.teamxray.com/teamxray/showfile.php?file_id=1805 page 35-43 is ALOT of great info..

Danno

11-03-2004, 10:47 AM

So if myfront tires are ballooning and I can`t make the triple at the local track ,(not enough time to pick up speed ) , I should put thicker oil in the center diff to transfer more power to the rear , right ? I have 7000 in now would it make it too loose if I went to 10000 ?

k_bojar

11-03-2004, 11:21 AM

Any suggestions on a new pipe?? I've upgraded the motor to an OS RG, now I wanna change the pipe.....

CRSMP5

11-03-2004, 12:18 PM

danno.. your correct on your theory.. it will transfer more power to the rear wheels to help push the buggy out of the corner..

pipe.. do soem reserch, lots of different ones for different things..

low10s

11-03-2004, 10:15 PM

the only advice on pipes i can give is for RB engines. on a WS7II run an RB .063 with long header, a C5 some like the .086 and .063. on an RB 3 port an RB.086 with adjustable length header. i have tried the jp-1 also, i like it but i think the RB is a bit better.

CRSMP5

11-03-2004, 11:31 PM

i agree on teh rb pipes.. BUT they are not as strong as other pipes.. it i sa what do you want type of issue, strong or performance.. but beign your playing with a OS engine id look into what others are using still..

low10s

11-04-2004, 09:22 PM

yea there is alot of talk about how thin they are, but to me they do run better. i cut some of the stinger off a bit and so far have had no prob.

low10s

11-06-2004, 08:57 PM

do you guys run your rear hubs all the way forward or to the rear. thanks

CRSMP5

11-06-2004, 10:07 PM

depends on the track.. small tight tracks forward, aka short wheel base, big tracks with sweeping turns all the way back.. the shorter wheel base makes for faster turning.. above i posted a link to the xray instruction manual.. PLEASE anyone who may have questions like this download it.. it covers this stuff and explains it very very well..

Danno

11-08-2004, 10:51 AM

I have a picco .26 and a13 tooth cluth and am eating bearings about every quart of fuel , anyone have this problem or suggestions ? Gear lash is NOT too tight .

CRSMP5

11-08-2004, 12:26 PM

i used to run a 18t cb on mine with no issues..

Danno

11-08-2004, 03:47 PM

18 ! holy crap , that thing must`ve topped out about 60 !

CRSMP5

11-08-2004, 06:28 PM

yea it did.. id break a wing mount a week on bad jumps.. LOL.. it woudl inflate the front tires so much they would eat teh sidepod on the body in a turn.. but that engine sucked so bad im much happier with a rb ws7II and 16t cb..

Saboteur

11-08-2004, 11:24 PM

I think I'm going to try and get the 14T clutch bell or 15T maybe for my ride soon. I mean the RB S5 accelerates so violently, on grass sometimes I have no traction with what ever tires I pick. My boss ran his WS7 II with the stock Hyper 7 tires and had no problem running on there. My ride just revved up really high and didn't go much places really fast. It really excels onroad.

low10s

11-13-2004, 10:50 PM

fanke19

11-13-2004, 10:57 PM

will any of the other brands servo saver's work on the Pro 2? i broke the top part of the servo saver tonight, very fustrating. it was a brand new servo saver too. any help would be appreciated. thanks :(

I wonder if this is a weak area for the Pro2? When I received my used Pro2, it came with the servo saver broken. Luckily, mine came with a brand new servo saver in package. If this is a weak area, I would also like to know if I should replace it with another model? I bashed the heck out of my Pro1 without anything breaking ( including a stack of paving bricks ). I'd like to think these are just a couple of flukes... :o

CRSMP5

11-13-2004, 11:09 PM

never broken one of those yet.. atomic should have them in stock though.. i also have one in pitbox, for other reasons, if you get in dire need..

low10s

11-13-2004, 11:15 PM

it was brand new, and it never got tight. i tightened it all the way and the wheels still moved. when it broke i was not even doing anything bad just slid out and hit the pipe. i will try it again, the Kr will almost fit and is MUCH beefier. things like this get me to looking at another car.

microrcdude

11-13-2004, 11:55 PM

What parts break on these? I plan on getting one, but not sure about what else i need to get.

CRSMP5

11-14-2004, 07:05 AM

parts break.. honestly ive ben runing pro versions for well this will be my 3rd year, wing mounts from really really bad jumps, ive never broken the servo saver but i do know of a few that have, ive broken 1 fuel tank due to a bottoming out jump with full tank of fuel it happens, but its not really too common... the c hubs will break once in a while and shock ends IF you fail to instal th esupplies droop screws to limit the suspention at full droop so it does nto use the shock end for a limiter..

low10s

11-14-2004, 08:14 AM

Droop screws? i am lost on that one. it came prebuilt and i dont remember seeing any. the servo saver is the only part that i have broken, i have raced it for about 4 months. it has been a solid peice so i am not unhappy with it, just cant figure out why the top part of the saver broke.

CRSMP5

11-14-2004, 06:19 PM

droop screws, like 5-8mm long 3mm allen screws, in baggy with extra diff shims and mirrors and such.. they go into the lower control arm and rest against the chassis..

low10s

11-14-2004, 07:02 PM

mine did not have them, i went and looked where they were supposed to go, i had some allen screws that worked. i tried to down load the link(team xray) to learn how to adjust the chassis you had on here earlier but it would not do right. every setup i have tried so far has not worked to well,so i am trying this setup. 35wt front, 40 rear and kyosho blue springs. 3-7-1 diff oil. i was running 40wt front 35 rear with the stock white springs, and i tried 5-7-1 and on throttle steering it wants to push. also i moved the rear hubs forward, which helped make it more drivable and turn in better. the on power push was the same with them in the center as well. any suggestions

CRSMP5

11-14-2004, 08:55 PM

where is your camber at? push on power in turn try some negative it will lessen the push, but same token can make it more unstable to go straight, i also with control arms level have 0 toe

low10s

11-14-2004, 10:04 PM

i have about 1 degree tow out and about 1 degree neg camber, i heard that was to help turn in. front arms slightly above level

low10s

11-14-2004, 10:13 PM

if you hold your servo arm and turn your wheels, are they easy to turn? just wondering if i got a weak spring in my servo saver. i am going to see if Bob at atomic has one tomorrow. with mine tightened all the way you could still turn the tirew 1/2 easily before any resistance from the saver. i looked at a buddys k3, and you could not budge his.

lp1proracer

11-14-2004, 10:38 PM

I have an old pro 1 and I want to put an OS V-SPEC or an RBws7II in but I want to know if I will have to do any bulletproofing to the drive train in order to accomadate a more powerfull motor and if the stock cb and flywl and clutch will work.I already have mugen 1.1 c-springs. I race and at the track I can't seem to fly the triple w/ any consistancy I think a new more powerfull motor will do the trick.Anybody still racing the old pro one? If you so are you still running the stock set ups or are you going to the pro 2 set up. Which do you think is better thanks fellows john :D

CRSMP5

11-15-2004, 05:35 AM

yes the pro 1 will be just fine with bigger engine... some have issues with teh diff gears but they are the same as kani and such so as long as every thing i sgood should be no issue..

the stock cb wears out, i say upgrade that, but flywheel and all should be good...

lp1proracer

11-15-2004, 12:48 PM

what cb should I use if not stock

CRSMP5

11-15-2004, 06:56 PM

lp1proracer

11-15-2004, 09:31 PM

im using ofna hardened ones that are vented.. BUT they dislike th estock lightning flywheel.. the teeth section is longer, i mod mine with a savage flywheel which is the same diameter, but allows the ofna cb with no issues.. you can use the ofna on a stock lightning flywheel, but it requires a ofna shim kit so you have a extension for the pilot shaft
I talked to John at atomic he was very informative he actully talked me into going w/ an OSRG.He also said that he races w/ the stock cb and it works fine what do you think?

CRSMP5

11-16-2004, 05:40 AM

ive seen way to many worn out ones.. have yet to wear out a ofna one after 3 years..

low10s

11-16-2004, 08:19 PM

i looked at a buddys k2, and our servo savers are the same height, the bearings are the same, and the arms are the same height also, so i got one from an mp 7.5 it wll be here Fri. no more steering probs. i also heard the Pro 2 is a kyosho copy. if this resolves my push prob, my buggy will be all over them boys

Kenny T

11-17-2004, 06:29 AM

Anyone wanna post pictures of theirs? I'm looking at getting the first version RR and possibly converting to electric so I wanna get a good look at the chassis and upperdeck layout. Can anyone help?

lp1proracer

11-17-2004, 03:14 PM

im using ofna hardened ones that are vented.. BUT they dislike th estock lightning flywheel.. the teeth section is longer, i mod mine with a savage flywheel which is the same diameter, but allows the ofna cb with no issues.. you can use the ofna on a stock lightning flywheel, but it requires a ofna shim kit so you have a extension for the pilot shaft
The Savage flywheel comes w/ the clutch and springs if this is the right one; Tower # LXGWY3 but I'm guessing that you don't use the clutch or springs.

CRSMP5

11-17-2004, 07:12 PM

look back at the beginning of this thread or end of version 2 of the threads.. i have ALOT of detailed photos posted..

it should be 7$ for the flywheel.. no shoes or springs included that ive ever seen..

CRSMP5

11-17-2004, 07:22 PM

pg 6 of v2..

http://forums.radiocontrolzone.com/showpost.php?p=1040510&postcount=145

ive got lots of photos from there to current

lp1proracer

11-17-2004, 11:06 PM

low10s

11-17-2004, 11:17 PM

i am going to try the kyosho blue springs in my pro 2, have anyone tried them, if so what do you think.

CRSMP5

11-18-2004, 05:19 AM

i use stock motor mounts, kyosho ones can be used though, and i use mugen shoes adn dependign on engine 1.0 or 1.1 springs..

lp1proracer

11-18-2004, 02:12 PM

i use stock motor mounts, kyosho ones can be used though, and i use mugen shoes adn dependign on engine 1.0 or 1.1 springs..I'm using stock shoes w/ holes drilled in them and Mugen 1.1 springs w/ the stock motor. Are the Mugen shoes better than stock ? ( which ones) aluminum or composite?

Spookypoop

11-18-2004, 08:17 PM

i run a mugen fly wheel with 1.0 springs and the mugen aluminum shoes on my RB S7II and a werks 4 shoe ajustable clutch on my Andy Brown Collari XS400 in my Pro2.

lp1proracer

11-18-2004, 10:48 PM

i run a mugen fly wheel with 1.0 springs and the mugen aluminum shoes on my RB S7II and a werks 4 shoe ajustable clutch on my Andy Brown Collari XS400 in my Pro2. That's pretty cool I was looking into a werks clutch. How do you like it?

CRSMP5

11-18-2004, 11:43 PM

i use mugen composites with no issue, the aluminum ones ive been trying they hook up nice, but i like th efeel of the composite more with 1.0 springs.. i do not like the 1.1 springs...

MORTER MAN

11-19-2004, 12:03 PM

Hey whats up all, Are these buggies any good? I am thinking about gettin one.

lp1proracer

11-19-2004, 12:44 PM

[QUOTE=MORTER MAN]Hey whats up all, Are these buggies any good? I am thinking about gettin one.[/QUOTE The best don't break!

charlesd

11-19-2004, 12:49 PM

Yes excellent for the price. I've raced mine 2 years in a row and haven't had any problems. It even scored me a 2nd place in the b-main of the Quebec championship. The most popular models in quebec that i race against are the kanai II and the crono rs01.

I guess the closest comparison would be the kanai II for the design. The lightning pro 1 is a carbon copy. I even use kyosho replacement parts on mine. The lightning parts quality is not on par with a kyosho, but darn better than alot of other companies.

If you're in the market for a buggy, there are alot of models that are bash/race proven. Kanai II, ofna hyper 7, Mbx5, etc.. and alot of new buggies on the market also. Take your time and check them out.

Danno

11-19-2004, 01:04 PM

Hey , Ive looked all over through here to try and find a parts list for the pro 1 can anyone help ?
Thanks

Spookypoop

11-19-2004, 03:48 PM

That's pretty cool I was looking into a werks clutch. How do you like it?

i like that you have full control of it, the shoes show absolutly know where after about half a gallon, and one break in on them

if you get it, the sweet spot seems to be the gold spring with 3 threads showing, with loctite holding the spring tension nut on

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v298/spookypoop/DSC00357.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v298/spookypoop/DSC00356.jpg
the one pictured has around 6 tanks on it

CRSMP5

11-19-2004, 06:47 PM

what parts ya need.. i have the numbers

lp1proracer

11-19-2004, 08:17 PM

i like that you have full control of it, the shoes show absolutly know where after about half a gallon, and one break in on them

if you get it, the sweet spot seems to be the gold spring with 3 threads showing, with loctite holding the spring tension nut on

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v298/spookypoop/DSC00357.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v298/spookypoop/DSC00356.jpg
the one pictured has around 6 tanks on it

It loks now is the flywheel part of it and if not what flywheel and what CB do you use?

Spookypoop

11-19-2004, 09:51 PM

ofna clutch bell

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v298/spookypoop/DSC01002.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v298/spookypoop/DSC01048.jpg

Danno

11-20-2004, 10:52 AM

Hey , Ive looked all over through here to try and find a parts list for the pro 1 can anyone help ?
Thanks
Actually , I would like an instruction book , I bought my two pro1`s used and a manual would be cool .

lp1proracer

11-20-2004, 04:39 PM

Actually , I would like an instruction book , I bought my two pro1`s used and a manual would be cool .
If you got access to a fax machine I could copy them all at work and fax them

Danno

11-20-2004, 08:16 PM

Duster_360

11-20-2004, 09:52 PM

I scanned the Pro 1 manual in at fairly high resolution and then converted it to a pdf - its pretty big though, but I can break it into pieces (I sent it this way to a guy overseas, I think he was in the Phillipines and he printed it and said it came out great). Are you on broadband? LMK if you want it and I'll find it and send it - send me a pm with your email.

fanke19

11-21-2004, 08:24 AM

Actually , I would like an instruction book , I bought my two pro1`s used and a manual would be cool .

I've got a couple brand new manuals left over from Lightnings that I parted out...if you want one...I'll ship it to you. Email me fanke19@yahoo.com

lp1proracer

11-21-2004, 09:46 AM

That would be really nice of you to do , I live in Iowa , that would probably be a nasty long distance fax ?! If You want to though the number is 515-243-5313 Eagle sign & advertising , Atten , Dan R.
fringe ben bro but you would have to put 2 pages back to back.I can copy on both sides but as you know we don't have that capability on the fax yet.
I can do it Tues when I go back to work. John

Danno

11-22-2004, 10:53 AM

Cool , thank You !
Dan

low10s

11-22-2004, 10:33 PM

does anyone make aluminum radio posts for the Pro 2, the ones from kyosho are 2-3 mm to long. thanks

CRSMP5

11-23-2004, 09:53 AM

i would say look at one with laydown servos..

Fatdaddy

11-23-2004, 10:33 PM

i am intrested in getting a lightning 2 RR. how are these for durability? ive raced 1/10 on, and off road for the last 10 years. i am excited about getting into 1/8 buggies. ive always wanted one :D

lp1proracer

11-23-2004, 11:42 PM

i am intrested in getting a lightning 2 RR. how are these for durability? ive raced 1/10 on, and off road for the last 10 years. i am excited about getting into 1/8 buggies. ive always wanted one :D
I also raced 1/10 scle and that I believe made me a much better 1/8 driver.
I raced 1/8 this year my first time w/ a pro 1 and OSRG.21 and placed 7 out of 65 guys for the season I think that is pretty respectable. NOw the pro 2 they say is a lttle better turning into corners but about the same coming out. Io wouldn't know the difference.the good thing is they are pretty much indestuctable. Make sure you get a fast throttle servo and a strong steering.I have Hitech dig servos there awsome.

Saboteur

11-24-2004, 12:25 AM

I wish I was able to race my 8th scale. Its just sitting there collecting dust now after not being ran for several weeks. I need excitement! :mad:

CRSMP5

11-24-2004, 05:38 AM

IMO the pro1 is a better value over the pro2.. trick is finding new ones.. both are great buggies, but i never found the pro2 to turn as good as a pro1 on tight tracks.. NEVER i modded pro1 C hubs to fit my pro2.. this alone gave it alot of steering, but still the pro1 turns better..

sab.. why not go find a indoor track?

fanke19

11-24-2004, 10:19 AM

Ok, question for you guru's. I've been parting out Lightning RTRs all year, but I never bothered to take the time to take measurements on little parts here and there. :confused: My question is, do any of you know if there is a difference in the chassis from the RTR to the Pro? I was going to keep the chassis plate from this last RTR to refresh my Pro, but then I hear that the chassis might not be the same? I can measure it of coarse, but I thought maybe one of you guys might know this answer on a whim. :rolleyes:

Fatdaddy

11-24-2004, 11:08 AM

I also raced 1/10 scle and that I believe made me a much better 1/8 driver.
I raced 1/8 this year my first time w/ a pro 1 and OSRG.21 and placed 7 out of 65 guys for the season I think that is pretty respectable. NOw the pro 2 they say is a lttle better turning into corners but about the same coming out. Io wouldn't know the difference.the good thing is they are pretty much indestuctable. Make sure you get a fast throttle servo and a strong steering.I have Hitech dig servos there awsome.
cool. i cant wait to get it. ive got the Hitec 5887 (i think) servos in mind for the throttle, and steering. they are strong and fast

Duster_360

11-24-2004, 03:45 PM

When the Pro1 came out and everybody noticed radio plate flex with the servos, most people made or had someone make alum radio posts. I made my own out of 7075 5/16 bar - there's no movement now with the 5945 I'm using. Get somebody to make you a set, the kyoshos can't be modded to work cause of how short the flared section is.

fanke19

11-24-2004, 04:32 PM

Hmmm, I've never seen all this before about the servo tray posts. Since it's going to be a long cold winter, I think maybe I'll fab up some posts! Now I just have to search through my contacts for an annodizing supplier.

CRSMP5

11-24-2004, 06:46 PM

yes they do move.. but they move so little i canot beleive it would be a issue.. BUT ill give another hint.. mugen wingmount has 2 aluminum tube pieces.. may cost ya 40$ for 4 of them but they are short.. i have 2 and i beleive they are the right height for the pro2 set up..

i chose to keep the plastic as a anti vibration to electronics...

Saboteur

11-24-2004, 08:57 PM

CRS- There is no indoor track nearby here. The one in Long Island I know doesn't race indoor 8th scale. Just stadium truck. Wait...I think they do MTs. I'll have to check up, but it still a far ways from where I am here.

CRSMP5

11-24-2004, 10:53 PM

well make a day out of it.. even if its a 3hr ride.. it will be fun to do some racing if ya know what i mean.. must get nitro fix.. :)

Fatdaddy

11-25-2004, 12:30 AM

well make a day out of it.. even if its a 3hr ride.. it will be fun to do some racing if ya know what i mean.. must get nitro fix.. :)
I used to go Racing about 2 hrs. from my hoUSe IT was fun wiTh my friends. Racing iS worTh iT

low10s

11-25-2004, 07:39 AM

thanks, for the input. no i havent noticed and issue with flexing, just trying to do some upgrades over the winter for better strength. also i agree about the turn in. tome it is horrible. one thing i noticed on mine was the servo saver was too weak(i actually broke one) so i put a K2 on there and made a big diff. also i put the Kyosho blue springs on there and it helped even more. i love the buggy and i think anyone who gets one will be well satisfied.

low10s

11-25-2004, 07:40 AM

by the way sometimes i drive 4-6 hours to race, gotta love it LOL

CRSMP5

11-25-2004, 09:30 AM

i drove to denver and raced from ohio :) ive drove to upstate ny also.. like i said.. make a day of it have fun

Blacktiger

11-25-2004, 02:03 PM

Here are couple pics of my new chassis with rear kick up....LOL

This was done this past tuesday (11-23). After a good night of practice a few of us decided to go for broke off the table top. We were getting some HUGE insane air. This was the end result for me.

http://s89755524.onlinehome.us/bt/Chassis-Damage1.JPG
http://s89755524.onlinehome.us/bt/Chassis-Damage2.JPG

Total damage tally was:

1. Rear of chassis bent up BAD.
2. Rear center dogbone now a bannana.
3. Rear chassis brace bent.

Fatdaddy

11-25-2004, 02:39 PM

Here are couple pics of my new chassis with rear kick up....LOL

This was done this past tuesday (11-23). After a good night of practice a few of us decided to go for broke off the table top. We were getting some HUGE insane air. This was the end result for me.

[IMG]http://s89755524.onlinehome.us/bt/Chassis-Damage1.JPG[/IG]
[IMG]http://s89755524.onlinehome.us/bt/Chassis-Damage2.JPG[/IG]

Total damage tally was:

1. Rear of chassis bent up BAD.
2. Rear center dogbone now a bannana.
3. Rear chassis brace bent.Looks like it could have been worse than it was. I'm sure you had fun though.

CRSMP5

11-25-2004, 10:18 PM

someone was askign about chassis above.. wonder if he will sell you his....

thats the rtr version right?

Blacktiger

11-26-2004, 09:50 AM

Yes it was the rtr chassis. For now i'm going to straighten it. Then come tax time pick up a pro 2 chassis for it.

And yes we had a blast. So it was worth it.

CRSMP5

11-26-2004, 11:47 AM

much like th eday i ripped the front end off my pro2 hitting the board when we were screwing around.. ofcorse.. mine was a 5$ fix..

yo yo yoni

11-27-2004, 12:43 AM

hello everyone
is the kyosho rear universals fits the lightning?
tnx:)

yo yo yoni

11-27-2004, 12:49 AM

few pics of my light
hope you like it :

http://grm.m.walla.co.il/briefcase/00f3/k/r/a/z/@/@/@/@/@/@/@/@/@/@/@/@/@/@/@/@/@/@/@/@/@/r/200411061315016927/200411061316497058/IMG_0466.JPG

http://grm.m.walla.co.il/briefcase/00f3/k/r/a/z/@/@/@/@/@/@/@/@/@/@/@/@/@/@/@/@/@/@/@/@/@/r/200411061315016927/200411061319542894/IMG_0539.JPG

http://grm.m.walla.co.il/briefcase/00f3/k/r/a/z/@/@/@/@/@/@/@/@/@/@/@/@/@/@/@/@/@/@/@/@/@/r/200411061315016927/200411061321599790/IMG_0468.JPG

http://grm.m.walla.co.il/briefcase/00f3/k/r/a/z/@/@/@/@/@/@/@/@/@/@/@/@/@/@/@/@/@/@/@/@/@/r/200411061315016927/200411111854014370/IMG_0473.JPG

RCILaser

11-27-2004, 08:42 AM

Some one was asking about the difference in the chassis. The ready to run pro1 is 6065 aluminum the pro is 7075. There is a difference between PRO1 and a PRO2 chassis a Pro2 chassis will work on a Pro1, but a Pro1 will not work on Pro2 some of the parts on the Pro2 have different hole locations. The Pro2 is set up with all the holes for both cars,

Robert Rienhardt
RCIhobbies
We Race Little Cars in Big Way

Danno

11-27-2004, 10:15 AM

Yo Yo , you might want to tighten that tie rod end .. :cool:

Blacktiger

11-27-2004, 10:16 AM

Thats good to know RCILaser. I will be looking to get a new chassis soon.

yo yo yoni

11-27-2004, 02:36 PM

Yo Yo , you might want to tighten that tie rod end .. :cool:

:o
this was a race combine.
now the original in. :)

Saboteur

11-27-2004, 09:21 PM

Wow. Huge pics, but they didn't fully load for me.

CRSMP5- With college I really don't have the time to go traveling so far up. Also I haven't been there before so I'm not going to go by myself and get lost. I'll wait till I get a real car. Meanwhile, I'll gear up my current rides as well as maybe pick up a new ride and then get spare parts.

Saboteur

11-27-2004, 11:01 PM

BTW- For those who drilled the 1/8th inch hole in the clutch shoes, where exactly did you do it? Any pictures of how its done?

Baja-Destroyer

11-27-2004, 11:34 PM

can someone help me find the purple aluminum bulk head for the 2nd front one thats plastic and the rear one thats plastic and that piece thats holdin the top of the a arm in the pic of the guys buggy above sorry for the confusing words i just cant find these pieces

fanke19

11-28-2004, 12:39 AM

The ready to run pro1 is 6065 aluminum the pro is 7075. There is a difference between PRO1 and a PRO2 chassis a Pro2 chassis will work on a Pro1, but a Pro1 will not work on Pro2 some of the parts on the Pro2 have different hole locations. The Pro2 is set up with all the holes for both cars

That was me asking about the chassis differences...thanks for the informative reply!

fanke19

11-28-2004, 12:44 AM

Baja: I think these are the front bulkhead parts you may be referring to. I part out Lightning front diffs as a unit like this...complete with the aluminum tie bar shown at the front of the diff, as well as the two plastic toe blocks shown at the rear of the diff. I'm parting out an entire new Lightning RTR this weekend starting Sunday at 7pm Central time.

http://www.f19motorsports.com/ebayhtml/Lightning/frontdiff.jpg

yo yo yoni

11-28-2004, 03:31 AM

is the kyosho rear universals fits the lightning?
tnx

CRSMP5

11-28-2004, 07:12 AM

baja your talking of the rear front arm braces.. thanks for the photo fanke, btw i want to buy that, BUT the braces he is talking about is the plastic one on the table side,

"aluminum suspention holder" they make 2 styles,
0 degree is #c8116-1
3 degree is #c8116-2

http://www.atomicmotorsports.com/main.htm last i saw he had 3degree ones in stock, almost 30$ :)

rear there is no aluminum option...

Baja-Destroyer

11-28-2004, 07:13 PM

those are the pieces im talking about

CRSMP5

11-28-2004, 08:55 PM

listed the numbers.. the link has the 3* ones in stock

Baja-Destroyer

11-28-2004, 09:14 PM

thanks but i was hoping for like a tower link ima get some parts for my lightning off there and id like to get it all at once from the same place

charlesd

11-28-2004, 10:21 PM

Baja, Kania II, mp 7.5 aluminum parts also fit.

CRSMP5

11-28-2004, 10:48 PM

the description/part number is in print above, cannot post tower link on the forum, gets the goofy ***** when you try...

Baja-Destroyer

11-28-2004, 10:55 PM

ok thanks everyone sorry for my lack of knowledge...

CRSMP5

11-28-2004, 11:45 PM

well something to rember.. tower is ok, shipping is kinda slow, atomic.. i have ordered from on sat by 10am est and had the items monday morning... so if its hb stuff your wanting, i highly reccomend him for online purchases.. also he is now a direct dealer for HB.. so any parts you may want or need he can get ;)

Fatdaddy

11-29-2004, 12:19 AM

the description/part number is in print above, cannot post tower link on the forum, gets the goofy ***** when you try...
just do something like "hxxp://www.towerhobbies.com"

then everybody can replace the x's with t's ;)

fanke19

11-29-2004, 09:47 AM

the last time I parted that part out, the whole assy went for $22.00. I just set up that front diff assy as a scheduled listing, 5939021212 and it will start 7pm central time Tuesday Nov30. Ends 5 days later Sunday Dec5. Just letting you know Baja.

Danno

11-29-2004, 10:55 AM

Anyone have any suggestions on glitching ? my p1 started glitching real bad but only when it is running . Is there anything common to look for ? I have a crap radio (futaba am ) just wondering if anyone has had the same problem . It has worked fine for 3 months up till now .

Fatdaddy

11-29-2004, 11:11 AM

i would start saving to invest in a good FM controller setup. such as the M8.

AM radios are succeptable to alot of inerference. the reciever could have vibrated to death. or the reciever/servo batteries might be dead.

CRSMP5

11-29-2004, 06:20 PM

low10s

11-29-2004, 06:46 PM

i had the same prob when i got my 1/8, turned out to be a short in the reciever pack. only glitched when running. later

low10s

11-29-2004, 06:47 PM

so will most kyosho parts fit, like drive shafts front/ rear and center.

CRSMP5

11-29-2004, 07:04 PM

no idea on kyosho ones.. hb ones are avaliable though..

fanke19

11-29-2004, 07:47 PM

no idea on kyosho ones.. hb ones are avaliable though..

CRSMP5, are you referring to Hot Bodies universals? I've heard that Lightning front Universals will fit on the rear, but what would you do for the front-center and rear center universals?

CRSMP5

11-29-2004, 07:56 PM

the pro has cvds in the center.. :)

Fatdaddy

11-29-2004, 08:37 PM

FM is not the cure on this... ive seen FM with major glitch issues..
i didnt mean to imply(sp) that FM was the end to glitching. like you said though, it could be anything practically.

i just love FM though. makes me feel all warm and fuzzy :p

low10s

11-29-2004, 09:08 PM

i just wonder what the benefit is between universals and cvd's. all the $$cars have universals. i really just like the kyosho polished universals. i what cvd's do to the rear but not the rest of the car.

CRSMP5

11-29-2004, 09:13 PM

well someone try them out and see.. i have no kyosho parts avaliable to even compair parts...

Danno

11-29-2004, 10:38 PM

could be a worn out clutch shoe, bad clutch spring, bad clutch bell bearing, loose screw, bad reciver, bad servo, and the list goes on.. if it only happens when running id look at the clutch stuff before i moved on.. then loose screws, then borrow a crystal from a friend, then a receiver, till problem found..

FM is not the cure on this... ive seen FM with major glitch issues..
You know what , this is the same buggy that has been eating clutch bearings , I think I will start my investigation there , good thinking CRSMP5 , last time I was into the clutch the shoes where starting to get worn , I wonder if a spring is rubbing on the bell ?? hummmm

Danno

11-29-2004, 10:40 PM

And besides , the ole` Lady gets a new paint job on her chopper before I get any new toys (m-8) :( :(

Danno

11-29-2004, 10:46 PM

double post

fanke19

11-30-2004, 01:12 AM

the pro has cvds in the center.. :)

I'm embarassed! I've taken apart nearly a dozen RTR Lightnings, but I've never really had to do much maintenance to my Pro...I've never noticed that it didn't use the same Dogbone shafts! :o

CRSMP5

11-30-2004, 09:46 AM

well its all good.. its the reason why IMO the pro is better, it has all the goodies to begine with, no need to add anything else.. too bad the stadium pro lacks the good front suspention brace.. its the one thing that needs hopped up..

also those who did not notice, there is a lightning stadium thread in the mt section now.. its growing pretty quick over the past week..

fanke19

11-30-2004, 10:29 AM

I also notice it has a bit of controversy over there! :rolleyes:

Fatdaddy

11-30-2004, 11:51 AM

proraptor2625

11-30-2004, 01:45 PM

Hey guys! I have a lightning stadium rr and I have heard that most of the lightning buggy parts fit the stadium also...I just wanted to know if they made any carbon fiber parts for the buggy like the servo tray or any other trickparts? Are there any aftermarket manufacturers you can link me to? Thank you!

CRSMP5

11-30-2004, 07:18 PM

CRSMP5

11-30-2004, 09:23 PM

wow.. lookie what i found on ebay.. must post photos..

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v406/CRSMP5/lightning/untitled1.bmp
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v406/CRSMP5/lightning/untitled2.bmp

1 Ex Team Hot bodies Lightning Pro. This is a Indonesian team car only raced in 3 major asian events, it has been fully rebuilt with new parts and comes with a complete brand new set of lower arms, new 14t clutch bell, exhaust manifold, blue soft springs, optional anti roll bars as well as used 1100mh team orion hump pack, fuel bottle,air filter element and a fironi sliding clutch worth over 40pounds. The buggy comes with all team options that are not available to the public including a special milled chassis and all alloy upgrades i am even including a BBF toursion diff in the front that is worth over 120 pounds.

ok.. whos from oz i want the chassis.. look at top photo at the odd triangles and cb area..

jpsoph82

11-30-2004, 11:59 PM

I just got a lightning rr really cheap on Ebay. Will the MP-7.5 Lower front suspension arms and the rest of the 7.5 suspension arms work on the Lightning rr

jpsoph82

12-01-2004, 12:02 AM

Another question about parts. Will the Mp-7.5 shock towers work on the Lightning RR. Just askin about the parts because my LHS stocks MP-7.5 parts like crazy.

low10s

12-01-2004, 12:02 AM

dont know but i think the rear universals from a Kanaii 2 will work, so i am going to give them a try, i am not too fond of the dogbones.

CRSMP5

12-01-2004, 05:38 AM

all i can say is compair the kyosho parts to it and report back to us with a list :)

ok who wants to go in partner with me on th eabove lightning.. was offered to me for 250lbs.. think we need to know what other "racer" parts we do not get as public thats on it.. :)

Fatdaddy

12-01-2004, 09:40 AM

no hop ups.. pro version has it all..

find a cheap pro1 and get all the parts, if it costs 150$ or less it will cost less then buying individual parts for your rtr2.. , 30$ of front braces, 30$ rear brace, 60$ in cvds, think its 60$ for the cnc knuckles, 30$ front suspention components in aluminum.. think you see what i mean... and there are 100-200$ examples out there..
sorry, but im a little confused by what you said. are you saying that the pro1 is upgradeable to the pro2?

what about all the new features on the "2" version? the lower CG radio box, fuel tank, servo, etc...?

CRSMP5

12-01-2004, 10:01 AM

all v1 parts fit directly onto v2 cars.. the pro1 would have all the anti bend stuff and thick shock towers yada yada, but would fit the rtr2 car with no issue and the non pro stadium also..

honestly.. the ebay auction above for the sacker kit racer is what id buy at this moment cause it has items never seen on any hb ive seen to date.. even beign a v1 car without laydown servo i still think it is the sweetest one to date.. me looking to find the $ to buy it.. then maybe ill be able to get the "not avaliable to public" parts recreated for us the public.. ;)

fanke19

12-01-2004, 11:06 AM

CRSMP5...is it possible that the chassis in question is just a Kyosho model or aftermarket based on Kyosho? :confused:

CRSMP5

12-01-2004, 11:11 AM

if i was in oz.. id go find out.. but a trip overseas is not happening for me to find out... :)

i just need to buy it... LOL.. wanna split the cost? all i want is the blue parts and a good photo/diagram of the racers stuff to see if it can be recreated..

fanke19

12-01-2004, 11:48 AM

How about if you buy it, go ahead and ship the chassis plate to me and I'll digitize the chassis plate on our CNC equipment, and ship the chassis plate back to you along with all the CAD drawings of the results. Then I can start machining up some chassis plates for you fine people!

CRSMP5

12-01-2004, 12:09 PM

id do that.. like i said.. im working on finding the cash for it.. sux that its less then 4 weeks till xmas.. if it was nto for that id already own it..

id also wanna pirate that stuff for a lightning stadium chassis... =) the real question i swhat else does it have thats nto stock parts..