HB Lightning RR Forum v3.0

[fanke19]

So with our current money conversion...what is 250pounds in US$?

[Fatdaddy]

all v1 parts fit directly onto v2 cars.. the pro1 would have all the anti bend stuff and thick shock towers yada yada, but would fit the rtr2 car with no issue and the non pro stadium also..

honestly.. the ebay auction above for the sacker kit racer is what id buy at this moment cause it has items never seen on any hb ive seen to date.. even beign a v1 car without laydown servo i still think it is the sweetest one to date.. me looking to find the $ to buy it.. then maybe ill be able to get the "not avaliable to public" parts recreated for us the public.. ;)
im still confused :p

are you saying the pro1is better than the pro2?

[Fatdaddy]

So with our current money conversion...what is 250pounds in US$?
http://www.seoconsultants.com/currency-converter/

250 pounds is about $483 dollars

[jpsoph82]

Would you guys compare this front shock tower to the one on your lightning. I think except for 2 extra holes in the middle area and having to drill a body post hole it will work. What do you guys think?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=34063&item=5939462211&rd=1

[CRSMP5]

no idea of it would fit.. mounts differently it looks like..

IMO the pro1 is the better of the 2 as far as cost and what you gain from the pro2..

the kyosho 777 still uses stand up servos also.. so well.. why not goto a lay down servo on it? must be a reason...

does not matter no money to buy it... :( xmas kills it..

[atm92484_3]

When I had a Lightning RTR 1, I tried fitting some 7.5 shock towers to the diff cases and the mounting holes are totally different. As similar as they are, there are very few parts that are actually interchangable (most of the interchangable parts that I found were in the drivetrain).

[jpsoph82]

When I had a Lightning RTR 1, I tried fitting some 7.5 shock towers to the diff cases and the mounting holes are totally different. As similar as they are, there are very few parts that are actually interchangable (most of the interchangable parts that I found were in the drivetrain).

Thank You, that is good to know. I may check some parts just in case but now I wont be disappointed as much.

[jpsoph82]

What engine would you guys back the most to replace the stock engine on the Lightning RR? Also should I get the front sway bar and both front and rear chassis anti-bending rods?

[CRSMP5]

bending rods heck yes get them..

engine.. do you race? how crafy are you with a dremal?

for a 21 i highly suggest rb, just love them, but cost same as buggy

if bigger, the mach 26/sportwerks 26... BUT for th eoriginal pull start there are clearance issues, you can spend like 40$ more for a smaller backplate/pull start set up, highly reccomended for ease of installation, or use the dremal to make it fit..

[jpsoph82]

Thanks, I am looking at a RB and a Top engine. The Top buggy engine looks pretty good. Thanks for your input. I will buy those aluminum front and rear antibend rods immediately.

[fanke19]

A couple guys in our group run Savage S-25 engines in our buggies. I got mine from a guy on Ebay by the name of "danoj". He sells complete Savage engines, with air filter, clutch, clutchbell, flywheel, roto-start backplate, ready to go, just drop it in the buggy. Well, to be fair, I did have to rotate the carb assy around 180 degrees...but that was it. I got mine for like $110 ready to run! It's a great engine for the price!

http://i12.ebayimg.com/01/i/02/f2/9f/e8_1.JPG

[CRSMP5]

yes the s-25 is a great engien in it.. buy one of the new hb 26 pistons and sleves and punch it up to 26 size too.. and headbutton, but for the 130$ the sportwerks 26 is.. the s25 is a small block in power..

[fanke19]

For $130 does that come complete with flywheel, clutch, clutchbell, carb, and pullstart? Is that a pullstart or non-pullstart engine? I started pricing flywheel, clutch, etc when I was looking at the S-25's and it looked as if I was going to have to pay another $50-$75 to complete any of the other engines on my list such as OS RG and similar...that's why I went with the $100 S25.

[CRSMP5]

pull start and carb included.. includes 3 venturies also, and with the 9mm venturi its completly disgusting on how it performs.. in a savage the 9mm venturi i soverkill an dnot racable, but for the basher would intertain wheelies with a 18t cb with ease..

[proraptor2625]

Who makes these sportwerks engines? They are probably a name brand engine with the sportswerks name on them

[CRSMP5]

they are mach 26 with different carb... :D

[Fatdaddy]

well tommorow is the day. im going to be picking up my lightning 2 rr at pegasus hobbies in montclair, ca

i cant wait!! :D

[CRSMP5]

let us know how you like it...

[proraptor2625]

well tommorow is the day. im going to be picking up my lightning 2 rr at pegasus hobbies in montclair, ca

i cant wait!! :D

I hear pegasus is an awesome RC place...Wonder if its any better than ultimate hobbies though...I have yet to see cheaper prices than ultimate...

[jpsoph82]

I hear pegasus is an awesome RC place...Wonder if its any better than ultimate hobbies though...I have yet to see cheaper prices than ultimate...

Man I wish TowerHobbies would start a chain of retail stores, that would be awesome. I think it would probably be successful. Does anyone know why they do not?

[CRSMP5]

i do not like tower.. they cost too much.. i get better deals from the LHS..

[Fatdaddy]

I hear pegasus is an awesome RC place...Wonder if its any better than ultimate hobbies though...I have yet to see cheaper prices than ultimate...
from what ive been told, its the supermarket of hobby shops.

[Fatdaddy]

let us know how you like it...
i will!

(im really excited for this....incase you cant tell) :p

[Baja-Destroyer]

wow my lhs reminds me a dumpster

[CRSMP5]

well the one i love is a hr drive and worth it.. the local one pissed me off again with lack of keeping stuff in stock.. my fav excuse at the moment is traxxas air filter oil.. been on order for 2 months, online in stock, after a month had the other order it, they had it the other night (for a few weeks now), the local one still says its on back order and to buy the duratrash stuff.. how can it be on back order when a different LHS can get it, can get it off line.. its all excuses.. i make it be known with customers in store when stuff like that happens..

[jpsoph82]

Hey guys how do you really know if you have ruined a differential? I have some MP-7.5 gears just in case along with diff fluid. The reason I ask is that when I roll the buggy on the ground it seems rough like it isn't smooth. How do I know which diff it is? All advice would be great!

[jpsoph82]

Also will this rear chassis brace work with the Lighting.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=34063&item=5938760199&rd=1

[Saboteur]

CRS- How is tower more than your LHS? My LHS will offer me an MGT for $410 while I can get it for $360 with discount and even with shipping it will still be less. I just have to wait for it which is no prob, or get the express delivery and it's still less. I think I've supported the LHS enough while spending nearly $900 in a 5 month time period, when I knew I could order elsewhere and get it for less. :) I know if there is ever a problem I'd have to ship it back. No worries though.

[CRSMP5]

the brace will not work, sounds as if the clutch shoe sprign or something is broken, and how is it cheaper then tower.. they just are..

hpi bronco body, 27$ from tower.. i just paid 22 at the one LHS.. 5$ may not sound like much, but when you spend 100-200$ there at a time which is cheaper? another example, hotbodies lightning diff case, tower is 5.49 the lhs was 3.89.. those 2 items lets see i saved 7$ add on tower shipping by UPS which also sux (7$)as UPS does nto delever to my house and likes to put 1500$ worth of certified checks on other local rdnecks door steps with out sigs, even with tax and uel i spent less then 14...

[Danno]

Trashed another bearing on the cluth bell . but I found my glitching problem ! I`ll post a picture later .

[Danno]

Check out the cooling fin , it was cracked almost all the way around , when itr would vibrate it would cause a glitch

[badandy]

I am thinking about selling my brand new built (I built it up to Pro2 from a RR1) Pro2. It has no been run sinse builing and features upgrades such as Kyosho shocks w/blue springs ($100.00), Teflon/metal shielded bearings ($100.00), universal driveshafts in the rear to compliment the rest of them. The only items not changed over are the body/wing mount/splash guards/hex drives. The buggy was expertly built and new screws were used where they were needed in reconstruction. Finally the diffs were shimmed up where needed and OFNA diff fluid was used with the Hot Bodies weight recommendations. Pictures are available upon request and are very detailed.

How much you guys think she is worth as a roller being as there isn't a scratch? The only thing I think anyone could pick on would be the anno has rubbed away on the top of the front Pro2 tower where I used it briefly last season on my RR1. I'll post picks if anyone could direct me to a free photo site that allows linking

[CRSMP5]

www.photobucket.com is best photo space i know of.. it allows hotlinking and all..

value.. sad to say but its not much, if your lucky 400, more then likely 200-350..

[low10s]

where did you get the rear universals, i want some for mine.

[badandy]

where did you get the rear universals, i want some for mine.
Same as the fronts

[jpsoph82]

Does anyone know how to make a transmitter left-handed, it's for my dad who is dominant left handed. He can't drive almost at all right handed. Any help would be awesome.

[CRSMP5]

there si a transmitter made to be changed over, think its a airtronics one.. go visit th eLHS..

[Spookypoop]

The M8 can be converted to left hand, it was made in mind for those left handed drivers, and i think the Futaba 3PK can be converted over as well

[Duster_360]

The 3PK takes about 15min to convert to left handed use unless you have the wheel lowering gizmo to deal with - then it will take about 20min.

[Tim'sLosi]

Can't wait to try this out tomorrow! I hope my LHS has that 12t bell you guys spoke of.

http://pic17.picturetrail.com/VOL855/2893328/5909024/75848822.jpg

http://pic17.picturetrail.com/VOL855/2893328/5909024/75848863.jpg

http://pic17.picturetrail.com/VOL855/2893328/5909024/75848932.jpg

[Fatdaddy]

well i bought my lightining 2 rr over the weekend. i love it! broke the motor in. havent had a chance to run it yet. it was raining sunday :mad:

[Danno]

Hey Tim , what kind of rims are those , I`d like to do the same thing sort of .
Thanks , Dan

[tryin]

Hey guys/gals, first post on your boards. I recently purchased a brand new pro 1 from Ultimate Hobbies. They had a special sale on Thanksgiving day for 199.00!. I had been following the forum and figured this would be a very economical way to get into the hobby. Anyway, I recieved the package yesterday and man was I suprised by the sheer size of it (first 1/8 scale and first nitro). I wasn't too pleased with the packaging, half the car was hangning out of the box and the body was scratched some, I figured for the price I paid it wasn't something to worry about. It is a present for my wife who has been wanting one for sometime. I still need a radio/ servos/ fuel, glo ignitor, and a hump pack. I was thinking of getting the JR Racing synthasized radio and servos that come with it. Any suggestions on the rest of the stuff and where I can find it the cheapest? I look foreward to chatting with you guys, this forum is the only reason I have the car!

[fanke19]

Welcome to the board!
Hey guys/gals, first post on your boards. I recently purchased a brand new pro 1 from Ultimate Hobbies. They had a special sale on Thanksgiving day for 199.00!
Rest assured...if the car wasn't broken in half...you got a great deal.
I still need a radio/ servos/ fuel, glo ignitor, and a hump pack. I was thinking of getting the JR Racing synthasized radio and servos that come with it. Any suggestions on the rest of the stuff and where I can find it the cheapest?
The radio you want sounds great...but the servos could be beefier. They'll probably be fine if the person driving isn't going to be pounding the car too hard. But if she's an aggressive driver, maybe look into picking up a radio ala cart, and investing in some slightly faster and tougher units? RCBOYZ.com (http://www.carttonic.com/catalog/index.php?file=catalog&action=catalog_productinfo&uid=466&pi_id=27618&clist=0,9833,11297,15278) has that radio system in stock for $179, and they ALWAYS have good deals on the little stuff that you're looking to go with it. I'm also a big fan of the Dubro Pit Stop (http://www.carttonic.com/catalog/index.php?file=catalog&action=catalog_productinfo&uid=466&clist=0,10276,14388&pi_id=100797), takes care of your glow igniter, extra large fuel bottle, etc, and keeps it all handy in one place. I have one more item that might save alot of frustration in the long run. I installed a Hot Bodies Jump Start (http://www.carttonic.com/catalog/index.php?file=catalog&action=catalog_productinfo&uid=466&clist=0,11321,11322,13869&pi_id=42180) on my Lightning, because I hate messing with the pull starter...and sometimes starter boxes are just finicky. Other than that, I would say you might be able to find stuff cheaper on Ebay, but pay attention to shipping cost, and look for a retailer that has all the stuff you want ( radio system, glo igniter, rx pack, etc ) in stock...that way you save money not only by going the Ebay route, but also by combining shipping cost!

Good Luck!

[luvmypro]

I have the Futaba radio (cheapy one). It was $25 and came with two servos (sell them on Ebay).
Hitech servos work great. High Torque for the steering for like $55-$60 and regular high speed for the throttle/brake ($25).

If you're not "racing" it and just bashing around. You'll be very happy with these parts.

I agree, there are better servos and radios. But for bashing, you'll be more than happy with this stuff and it wont cost you an arm and a leg.
Try keeping an eye on Ebay for parts, that's the most cost effedtive way.

Any tech questions, check with CRSMP5 (sorry other guys). He knows his stuff and has always helped me out...and ALWAYS KEEP AN EYE ON THIS FORUM. Some really great people here and most know there stuff. They have always helped me out.


HEY TIMSLOSI!
Any issues with the tires hitting the guards on those wheels? I adapted some Savage wheels to fit my Pro 2. It's slow, but will go anywhere.

[CRSMP5]

my wheels like that hit the stone gaurds..

ahh lightning stadium pro, center diff holders and 50t spur will help alot.. direct fit too..

[Tim'sLosi]

They are OFNA wheels with the Losi Zombie tires. I bought the set of four off the rctech classified section for $35 shipped :D .

They do hit the stone guard on full turn, I plan on taking out some steering with the radio. Still, it isn't as bad as I thought...the rims have a lot of offset! This thing is 18" long and 16" wide with these on! I also plan to get the OFNA 17mm adapters for the Tmaxx so I can run the tires on it if I want.

It was too late once I got home from picking my Durango up at the shop (Maint) to run it. I live in a development and have two young kids so 7pm is late here :rolleyes: . Maybe tomorrow night...

http://www.ofna.com/tires-monster.html



http://www.ofna.com/images/tire-86103.jpg
Rims, Monster Dish
Fits 17mm Std. Hex Hub
4 Pcs, Black
Part#: 86103

* Any Proline, T-Maxx tire will fit these rims

[Danno]

What if you used offset rims like rpm stable max ?

[Tim'sLosi]

What if you used offset rims like rpm stable max ?
For the Lightning? The stablemaxx wheels are not 17mm as far as I could tell. And for the Maxx I want the adapters anyway to try 1/8 scale tires on it.

[Fatdaddy]

here she is! man i love this thing. i got it broken in the night i got it, but i havent had a chance to run it yet. i got my M8 installed, and i already replaced the stock servos. i cant wait to get this thing on the track :D
http://home.earthlink.net/~paulsonmfg/fd2%20223.jpg
http://home.earthlink.net/~paulsonmfg/fd2%202251024.jpg

[Saboteur]

Awesome truggy. Thats what I orginally wanted to do. Did you use spacers for the hubs or Ofna extension axles? Hows the ground clearance. Gonna get MT shock towers and remove those side guards?

[Tim'sLosi]

Awesome truggy. Thats what I orginally wanted to do.
1-Did you use spacers for the hubs or Ofna extension axles?
2-Hows the ground clearance.
3-Gonna get MT shock towers and remove those side guards?

1-No, just those majorly positive offset OFNA wheels

2-2.5" with arms level. Weight is only 9.7 lbs dry. Suspension doesn't seem to mind the extra wheel weight.

3-I am new to this so I have to research this forum to find out what all I want to do. I kinda like the buggy body on there, looks wild. I do think I will have to do some gearing changes. This setup may end up on my other LP1 that has a brand new OFNA Hyper 8 Port.

Thanks for the compliments,
Tim

[CRSMP5]

i have a thread from april?? on the truggy i made up from a lp1.. usign the smae wheels but panther komodo tires.. i had installed a ofna 2 peed into it even..

[Fatdaddy]

i have a thread from april?? on the truggy i made up from a lp1.. usign the smae wheels but panther komodo tires.. i had installed a ofna 2 peed into it even..
that sounds really cool. do you have any pics of it?

[CRSMP5]

yes they are posted back in april thu june on this thread somewhere..

[CRSMP5]

yes they are posted back in april thu june on this thread somewhere..


pg 23 of this thread..

[tryin]

Thanks for the advise guys. I think those servos will be allright for now. The steering servo is a high torque metal gear servo and puts out 85 oz. in. so it should be good enough for now. Maybe in a couple of months I can upgrade it and move the JR steering servo to the throttle/ brake servo. Like I said this is intended for my wife so I don't even know if it will ever be raced. I guess it depends on how seriously she takes the sport and how much she lets me play with her Christmas gift :p

[Fatdaddy]

i broke my jump starter that came with my rtr kit. i think it was hydralocked ( i hope) it just wouldnt turn over. kept getting stuck at TDC. so i kept on it trying to turn it over. then a bunch of smoke came out of the caseing. i took it apart to see that the poitive wire had un soldered itself from the leads on the switch, and the motor. whoops :p


why would my motor keep getting stuck like that?

[CRSMP5]

if its a new engine not broken in yet or hydro locking.. a small tip.. for the 1st gal or 2 of fuel loosen up the glow plug then tighten down once running..

[fanke19]

Right! Also...rotate the flywheel by hand ( or screwdriver! ) until you're past TDC. That way it gets a little bit of run before hitting max compression!

[Fatdaddy]

if its a new engine not broken in yet or hydro locking.. a small tip.. for the 1st gal or 2 of fuel loosen up the glow plug then tighten down once running..
loosen by how much?

also, i think my hand started took a crap. i was trying to start the motor last night. the little electric motor got so hot it unsoldered the leads from the switch, and the motor. :eek:

i soldered them back togther, got the car started for a couple seconds, then the electric motor stoped working again :(

[CRSMP5]

1/4-1/2 turn..

[fanke19]

Bummer...sounds like Hot Bodies maybe has a bad batch of starters? Luckily, I did not encounter problems like these while breaking in and starting my new S-25 with my Jump Starter. Hmmm :(

[CRSMP5]

its a old old issue... you can use any normal 540 sized engine in it, rewire it with some real wire, and put a good switch in it.. the hb and hpi ones are pretty crappy on the quality..

[tryin]

Well I cheaped out on the radio system for now. Instead of getting the JR setup I found a new system out of a hot bodies RR version for 20.00 on ebay last night. I just couldn't stand the thought of shelling out another $180.00 on a radio system, especially this time of the year. If she likes the car and is intrested in it then maybe in a month I can buy a high-torque servo and hump pack for it, the next month or so a better radio. I did order the Du Bro pit stop kit, but I discovered that RCBoyz has a huge ebay store and is selling them for $22.00, plus $7.00 s&h, so I got if from there. I guess all I need now is some fuel. We have a new hobby shop that opened about 45 min. from the house, I might go see them this weekend. It won't be long, my wife hasn't a clue.

We were watching the Lexus commercial the other night where the SUV is in the Living Room of the house. I made a joke and said that is what you are getting for Christmas, she said what are you talking about, I said, a car in the living room. She just lauphed and said, I'll believe that when I see it. It should be a pretty funny Christmas :p

[geo8498]

I mounnted TMaxx wheels on mine a couple years ago. should be pics on here somewhere showing my setup.

[geo8498]

here's my new body

[geo8498]

closeup of lightning lightning

[Fatdaddy]

its a old old issue... you can use any normal 540 sized engine in it, rewire it with some real wire, and put a good switch in it.. the hb and hpi ones are pretty crappy on the quality..
they are pretty crappy quality. i replaced the motor with a green machine 2 out of my unused TC3. works pretty well.

i think my biggest problem was having the paitence to turn back the motor each time it got stuck.

i think jump start pack breaking is a good excuse for me to get a starter box :p

[gck978]

my lightning 21 rr engine on the crankshaft ther is a pin that connects to the backing plate and makes it spin the shaft for the pull start do i nee that pin or if i run it without it will i ruin the engine i have a starter box

[jpsoph82]

I have a engine question. I found a Werks Picco: Lamberto Collari 21 B3 engine for 189.00. Is this a good engine, should I jump on the opportunity? You can view the engine at http://werksracing.com/product.do?sku=WRXLC21B3 . It looks good to me.

[CRSMP5]

you need it, but can build one easily, did you loose the spring? cut down a wheel hex pin from a touring car o rbuy the sprign and pin, hpi sells them like 3$

[low10s]

man i just noticed how flexible the rear arms are on the pro 2. do they make ones any stiffer, they are fine but i think they flex a little to much not letting the shocks work like they should.

[Saboteur]

Hmm..guess I may order stronger shock towers and rear brace in the spring. Still don't know if I will get a new buggy.

[Fatdaddy]

went through a full day of practice today. car still runs great! something is wrong with my steering servo. was on the last run of the day, hit a jump, cleared it no sweat landed. no steering :(

time to call Hitec :p

[jpsoph82]

I have a engine question. I found a Werks Picco: Lamberto Collari 21 B3 engine for 189.00. Is this a good engine, should I jump on the opportunity? You can view the engine at http://werksracing.com/product.do?sku=WRXLC21B3 . It looks good to me.

[gr8taz nitro]

I've heard a lot of good things about the collari engines and that sounds like a pretty good price but beware the good price. Do some checking. I've always ran novarossi engines in my pro until I got a good price on a Rossi Super Offroad. Paid $200 for the Rossi and inside of 1/2 gal of fuel the front bearing shelled out. Now I'm back to my novarossi rx 21 5p turbo with a twist. Rick from RB Mods did some work to it for me. Got a Bergonzoni 7 port piston and sleeve in there now. :D
I don't know if anyone else has any experience with the collari engines other than the on road guys but you might want to keep in mind how easily you can get parts if you need em. For the money your talking about you can get a hyper 21 8 port and an O.S. carb and have no problem getting parts. Or shop around some. I bought my last novarossi 5 port for $219 plus shipping.

[Spookypoop]

I run a Collari XS400 Andy Brown modded, it is stupid fast, nuff said...it has 2 1/2 gallons on it and my ofna chrome top bump box has trouble turning it over. Im hard pressed to turn the motor over with it out of the buggy with my own hands....but Werks doesnt use the Rossi piston (not novarossi) which is a ceramic type piston, meaning it expands with the sleeve, so no mater what temps its at, it has the same compression from cold to hot.

[jpsoph82]

I run a Collari XS400 Andy Brown modded, it is stupid fast, nuff said...it has 2 1/2 gallons on it and my ofna chrome top bump box has trouble turning it over. Im hard pressed to turn the motor over with it out of the buggy with my own hands....but Werks doesnt use the Rossi piston (not novarossi) which is a ceramic type piston, meaning it expands with the sleeve, so no mater what temps its at, it has the same compression from cold to hot.

So the B3 or B7 would be a great engine for a 1/8 scale lightning? I just want to make a good decision.

[Saboteur]

I run an RB S5 in my lightning rtr1. Massive acceleration, good top speed, and turns on a dime with a hitec 625MG servo.

To anyone- Anyone run the jammin pipe 1 or 2 on their ride? I may run a THS pipe instead of those as I hear its just as good as the Jps or RB pipe. $70 for the one piece set.

[low10s]

in all honesty, to me an RB runs better with an RB pipe. i also run the s5, and with the RB .086 it is bad to the bone. i tried the JP-1 pipe also and put the RB back on. on my ws7 II i run a .063

[Saboteur]

Ok, 086 it is then. My lhs made me the offer for the THS pipe for $70 bucks. Hard to believe its the same as the RB, but less money. BTW, anyone running aluminum clutch shoes? My S5 ruined my 2nd shoe. First the stock 2 shoes, now one of the three shoes on my mugen flywheel/shoe setup is ruined where the flywheel peg goes through. Don't know how it ripped outta there. Should I go with medium or hard and use my stock mugen springs?

[CRSMP5]

the "stock" mugen springs are 1.0 with that kit... they do wear out so replace them while replacing the shoes..

[Saboteur]

So if I go with the aluminum shoes I should just get new set of 1.0 springs?

[low10s]

yea to be safe, a long time racer friend of mine told me to use ofna springs and trim about 2 mm aff the end, they tend to last longer than the rest.

[Spookypoop]

I run an RB S7II with a JP-1 pipe, seems to beat everything at the track from bottom to top...well, theres a Rody/Collari C5 mod that kills me at the top end, but i kill him getting there....

[Fatdaddy]

went out to the races tonight. placed 8th in the first qual. 5th in the second, and came in first in the C-main. bent the right rear shock shaft in the second qual. oh well, i got pro rear shock kit on its way. i coulda bumped into the B-main, but my car was too F-ed up to keep going :(

[CRSMP5]

that sux that ya bent a shock..

[Fatdaddy]

that sux that ya bent a shock..
yep. i should have gone with everybodys advise, and got the pro kit. i got the pro racing rear shock kit on the way $45 bucks :(

oh well. live and learn :)

[CRSMP5]

that really sux as ive never damaged v1 shocks like i have on the pro2...

[Fatdaddy]

that really sux as ive never damaged v1 shocks like i have on the pro2...
somebody should make a hardened shock shaft kit for the pro shocks

[CRSMP5]

you can put the kyosho, ofna, mugen 3.5mm shafts in the pro2 shocks.. like ive had too..

[Fatdaddy]

if the racing shocks bend, then thats what i will end up doing.

overall though, the car was great. handled great, looked good. ive got more tuning to do on my motor, so i wasnt running very well. im going to rebuild my diff's, and shock before the next race :)

[tryin]

So it sounds as though the shocks on the Pro 1 are pretty good? Better than the Pro 2?

I have a question for anyone running the RTR radio gear on the Lightining RR/Pro1. As some of you may remember I bought a Pro 1 for my wife as a Christmas gift and I picked up the RR radio gear off of Ebay to put in it for now. I noticed that their wasn't a switch between the battery tray and reciever. The battery tray plugs directly into the receiver. I have the car all wrapped up and can't see if their is one in the box. Any advice? Is there supposed to be a switch? I know that all other cars I have had has a switch to turn on the radio/ servos. Also, there isn't any servo horns on the servos the guy sent me, is this stuff usually in the box with the car as well or will I need to pick some up?

Also I just wanted to tell you guys that initially I thought that the car had some flaws from shipping. I then realized that there is a protective coating on the body of the car, I pulled it off and everything looks great, so there wasn't any shipping problems. I can't wait to get this beast working, I am really amazed at what I got for what I paid.

Thanks all.

[Fatdaddy]

So it sounds as though the shocks on the Pro 1 are pretty good? Better than the Pro 2?

I have a question for anyone running the RTR radio gear on the Lightining RR/Pro1. As some of you may remember I bought a Pro 1 for my wife as a Christmas gift and I picked up the RR radio gear off of Ebay to put in it for now. I noticed that their wasn't a switch between the battery tray and reciever. The battery tray plugs directly into the receiver. I have the car all wrapped up and can't see if their is one in the box. Any advice? Is there supposed to be a switch? I know that all other cars I have had has a switch to turn on the radio/ servos. Also, there isn't any servo horns on the servos the guy sent me, is this stuff usually in the box with the car as well or will I need to pick some up?

Also I just wanted to tell you guys that initially I thought that the car had some flaws from shipping. I then realized that there is a protective coating on the body of the car, I pulled it off and everything looks great, so there wasn't any shipping problems. I can't wait to get this beast working, I am really amazed at what I got for what I paid.

Thanks all.
there should be a switch on the reciver pack. otherwise you will have to open and close the radio box cover everytime you want to turn it on, and off. it would be a major pain in the butt.

when i got my RTR it came with all the servo equipment already installed. if i were you i would take the car down to your LHS so they can give you the exact servo arms for your servos. they will probably strip out if you dont get the right ones.

[CRSMP5]

get a good/better steerign servo as the stock rtr is kinda crappy. any futaba arms fit and if your buying a switch, buy one with a charge harness in it for future humppack install..

[Fatdaddy]

now i got a question about putting new oil in the Diff's.

as of right now the diff's are completely stock. i took the front one apart last night, and all the gears were covered in grease as i had expected. my question is, when i put new 5000wt. oil in it, should i completely clean out the old grease? or do the gears still require the old grease for any reason?

[tryin]

get a good/better steerign servo as the stock rtr is kinda crappy. any futaba arms fit and if your buying a switch, buy one with a charge harness in it for future humppack install..
Thanks for the reply, I know about the steering servo. This setup is just to see how seriously my wife takes the sport, if she enjoys it I will upgrade the entire radio system and install a hump pack. I will probably upgrade in the future anyway, I just got the entire system off of Ebay for $20 and figured it would save me $200 for now.

I am still a little confused about the switch set up. On the RR version is there a switch that the battery pack and reciever plug into mounted on/in the radio box? For anyone that has the Pro 1 was their a switch on/in the radio box that the receiver/battery plug into or did the radio gear you installed have a seperate switch? If I have to buy a switch and mount it do you just cut a hole into the receiver box and mount it so you can turn it on and off without opening the receiver box? Sorry if this sounds like simple questions but like I said the car is wrapped up and I can't really remember what all is under the hood. (This is the first new R/C car I have had in over ten years as well so the technology has changed some, my last car didn't even have a receiver/battery box)

Thanks

[Duster_360]

Both my LP1s came with a switch. Its made into the rear of the rx box.

Since I was going to use a hump pac, I replaced the switch with one like CRSMP5 referred to so I can charge the rx pac without opening the rx box. If you don't like leading the charge lead out of the box (want to keep everything sealed up), when you need to charge you just open the rx box and just plug the charge lead into the charger - no pulling connections apart.

If you don't want the charge wire lead moving around outside the box, take a bare female end an shoegoo it to the side of the rx box - keep the charge lead plugged into that until you use it.

[tryin]

Thanks Duster 360, that is EXACTLY what I was needing to know. Any chance there was some servo horns in the pro 1 box? I think a hump pack is going to be the first mod, I already have a charger so might as well. Probably replace that steering servo in a couple months after that.

[tryin]

now i got a question about putting new oil in the Diff's.

as of right now the diff's are completely stock. i took the front one apart last night, and all the gears were covered in grease as i had expected. my question is, when i put new 5000wt. oil in it, should i completely clean out the old grease? or do the gears still require the old grease for any reason?

I have read (I have never actually done it) that you clean as much of the grease out as possible and then add the diff fluid.

Good luck.

[CRSMP5]

no pro versions do not come with servo horns..they just use the one that come on the servos.. the LHS should be able to hook you up with them for pretty cheap.. if they charge ya more then a buck you need to kick them in the arss and say get real.. for standard futaba horns (if it would not cost me 5$ to mail you some id do that), now you can buy ofna ones, cost a little more, but are stronger..

[Duster_360]

After I had a plastic servo horn give on me and cause/contribute to a nice crash, I said never again and everything I drive uses Ofna alum servo horns now. Not going to break another! Cheap insurance. Nitrohouse ot Tower H

Another tip - wait until you have everything adjusted and all your servos zeroed and then use a touch of blue loctite on the servo horn screws - I 've had one of those back out and disappear on me and had a moment of panic when the buggy started doing really weird stuff - the horn would only grab ocassionally with the screw getting loose until it fell out, then it stopped moving. This was in spite of a lockwasher. At least I didn't crash that time.

[tryin]

Thanks guys. My local hobby shop stocks Ofna stuff so they can get me rolling. Their probably not going to appreciate the fact I didn't buy the buggy off them. Just don't care for Ofna. Man I wish the guy that I bought the radio system off of included the horns and the screws that hold them on, yep no screws either. Starting to wish I would have just bought the JR synthesized radio/reciever/servos and be done with it.

[Fatdaddy]

I have read (I have never actually done it) that you clean as much of the grease out as possible and then add the diff fluid.

Good luck.
i was talking with a friend about it yesterday, and he said the same thing. thanks for responding :)

[Fatdaddy]

Thanks guys. My local hobby shop stocks Ofna stuff so they can get me rolling. Their probably not going to appreciate the fact I didn't buy the buggy off them. Just don't care for Ofna. Man I wish the guy that I bought the radio system off of included the horns and the screws that hold them on, yep no screws either. Starting to wish I would have just bought the JR synthesized radio/reciever/servos and be done with it.
any good hobby shop will have everything you need. it probably wont cost more than $10 for the horns, and screws.

one reccomendation i would make. try to get allen head screws for the servos. ive already stripped out the heads on screws that came with my servos. its a real pain in the butt to get those screws out after the heads are stripped ;)

[tryin]

Thanks for all the help guys. My wife opened it up last night and was thrilled. She wasn't to happy that I told her it had to be over 50 before we could break the engine in! I guess it is like getting a toy for Christmas and not having any batteries for it! Anyway, looks like I will start putting servos/switch/etc. in after Christmas when I get back from visiting relatives. I am going to start looking around the board for some detailed pictures of how the linkages, etc. are installed. The instruction manual is a little bleak. I guess after I have all the parts in front of me it will be easier to understand. Well thanks for all the help, if I don't talk to you again (before Christmas) have a great Christmas!
Peace

[fanke19]

See...that is what it's all about! I wish my wife would be thrilled about a new r/c! Mine would be like..."funny...where's the real gift!? :mad: "

[fanke19]

Well, last night my wife and I had my folks over for Christmas eve present exchange and dinner. My folks got me some Pro-Line Knuckles 2, and Wabash wheels. Also, a 16oz jar of Bob Dively, and a full set of blue kyosho springs! Now with the cash I'll get today from the grandparents, I'll pick up a set of the Kyosho 777 shocks front and rear for the Lightning Pro2!

[TC3Racer]

do the Kyosho 777 shocks right the 2 Pro?

I just bent the hell out of a shock shaft and i'm looking to replace it.

[Fatdaddy]

do the Kyosho 777 shocks right the 2 Pro?

I just bent the hell out of a shock shaft and i'm looking to replace it.
you can get replacement shock shafts from any of the other buggys that have 3.5mm shock shafts.

i would suggest trying to find hardened ones

[Fatdaddy]

i replaced all the grease in the diff's with 5000wt(front), 7000wt(center), and 1000wt(rear) fluids. hopefully the results are good. i will be racing again this friday.

im also looking at getting a new motor too. something with real power! :p

[Fatdaddy]

well i just bought a novarossi P5 motor for it. im gearing up for the Nitro Challenge in February :D i cant wait!!

[Fatdaddy]

so the endless money pit continues. bought a jammin jp-2 pipe for my new motor. now im looking for a clutch.

any sugestions anybody?

[CRSMP5]

at least it was not a 600+$ buggy to start off with :)

[Saboteur]

Got the MGT last yr...well several hrs ago if ya wanna call it. Think I'd have to put my buggy to rest. It has speed, but the MGT owns offroad. Radio gear, failsafe, 625mg servo will be taken out the buggy and going into the MT. :D

[Fatdaddy]

at least it was not a 600+$ buggy to start off with :)
its turned into that and at least $600 more again :p

[low10s]

i am selling my Pro 2, it is in the for sale forum, but no pics. email if interested. r1harper@msn.com

[TC3Racer]

so the endless money pit continues. bought a jammin jp-2 pipe for my new motor. now im looking for a clutch.

any sugestions anybody?

Check out the Fioroni sliding clutch. It seems to really be performing well in races and is definitely the ticket for buggies. I'm getting one this summer. GS Racing is a fioroni dealer and you can check it out. I'd go with the carbon shoes - they are softer and grab harder. GS's website is www.gsracing.com and hers the link to Fioroni's Turbo Sliding Clutch http://www.gsracing.com/web/page.asp?pgs=products&catid=43 if you get it let us know how it works out for ya.

[tryin]

Well guys, just wanted you to know that I have the buggy together and running. I went to the local hobby shop and bought a new JR steering servo (140 oz/in.) and moved the HB steering servo to brake/throttle. I purchased the Ofna aluminum servo horns, hump pack, charging reciever switch, rechargable glo ignitor, pre-air filter, and some other stuff. I spent another $200 on all that stuff! This is not a cheap sport! I guess in a couple months maybe a better radio and servo for throttle/brake. I got the engine broken in this last week and ran another tank about 1/2 leaned out, I can't believe how fast these things are! My wife hasn't even had a chance to drive it yet and I'm a little scared to let her have the trigger just yet, this thing could do some damage in the wrong hands. Anyway, I love the buggy and it should serve it's purpose well.

[Fatdaddy]

Well guys, just wanted you to know that I have the buggy together and running. I went to the local hobby shop and bought a new JR steering servo (140 oz/in.) and moved the HB steering servo to brake/throttle. I purchased the Ofna aluminum servo horns, hump pack, charging reciever switch, rechargable glo ignitor, pre-air filter, and some other stuff. I spent another $200 on all that stuff! This is not a cheap sport! I guess in a couple months maybe a better radio and servo for throttle/brake. I got the engine broken in this last week and ran another tank about 1/2 leaned out, I can't believe how fast these things are! My wife hasn't even had a chance to drive it yet and I'm a little scared to let her have the trigger just yet, this thing could do some damage in the wrong hands. Anyway, I love the buggy and it should serve it's purpose well.
awesome. glad youre having a good time!

[CRSMP5]

project ive been workign on since last thurs night, stripping down the pro1 and 2 buggies and tonight i finally got the lsp stripped down. im going thru each one for cleaning/race prep for this upcoming season, but the question is anyone need any specific pics of anything? it will probally be this weekend when i go to rebuild them all and now is the time for compairison photos or such, so let me know what ya wanna see

[fanke19]

Yeah, I have a question. A month or so ago, the subject of universals on the rear of the Pro's. I don't have them on either Pro1 or Pro2. Wasn't it said that the Pro's come standard with Universals front and rear? They both have front universals, and rear dogbones.

[CRSMP5]

front and center cvds only.. rear is bones..

[tryin]

Would it be worth it to upgrade the rears to cvd's? Apparently HB thought dogbones where sufficient. Well I broke my pull starter last night, apparently the rope was rubbing against the Lexan when I was pulling it and it broke. It took me about two hours last night to get to it and fix it. I spliced the broken ends back together with a nail not and switched the ends around so the broken end was inside the pull start and close to the bottom of the pull. Everything seems pretty good so far but what a pain it was winding that spring up and getting it back in. I think I might start looking around for a starter box or a roto start, my wife will never get this thing started with the pull starter.

[charlesd]

I've been running mine with dog bones for 2 summers and there's hardly any signs of wear. I guess it depends on what you do.

I guess the only reason to change would be to remove slack in the drive train.

[tryin]

I've been running mine with dog bones for 2 summers and there's hardly any signs of wear. I guess it depends on what you do.

I guess the only reason to change would be to remove slack in the drive train.

So how do the lightnings hold up after a couple of years? How much abuse have you put it through?

[CRSMP5]

they keep going and going.. no issues with mine..

[TheGeneralG]

Anyone have a HB PRO 2 they want to get rid of?

send me details.

grantrs@sbcglobal.net

[Danno]

I have 2 pro 1`s and you would not believe the things I have put them through . I`m thinking about the new Collari .30 motor for my basher , woot woot

[CRSMP5]

01-01-2005, 05:58 PM
low10s
Member Join Date: 01-17-2004
Posts: 313

i am selling my Pro 2, it is in the for sale forum, but no pics. email if interested. r1harper@msn.com

[TC3Racer]

I've put my L2Pro through hell and back and it keeps coming back for more. 3 1/2 gallons on it in 4 months! ;) What engines do you all run? Anyone here run the Collari XS400? I'm running a Paris/Picco G1 right now and i'm on my 6th gallon. Its still running strong but i'm worried its going to lose compression soon, several of these engines run at my track and this is the time they start to go. Anyway just curious as to what you all are running in your racer.

[Saboteur]

RB S5 here. I have the RTR 1 hb that came with the .21bb. Tough as nails, fast with the RB, and works great for me. Just gonna get the 4mm shock towers for it and a new one piece pipe. Also a new servo. MY MGT has it's gear on it..LOL. Buggy is gonna get a new makeover. Will def post pics when I do, but I'm trying to earn myself a real car first.

[Fatdaddy]

Would it be worth it to upgrade the rears to cvd's? Apparently HB thought dogbones where sufficient. Well I broke my pull starter last night, apparently the rope was rubbing against the Lexan when I was pulling it and it broke. It took me about two hours last night to get to it and fix it. I spliced the broken ends back together with a nail not and switched the ends around so the broken end was inside the pull start and close to the bottom of the pull. Everything seems pretty good so far but what a pain it was winding that spring up and getting it back in. I think I might start looking around for a starter box or a roto start, my wife will never get this thing started with the pull starter.
go for the starter box. i ditched my rotostart after i broke it in the first week of use

[tryin]

go for the starter box. i ditched my rotostart after i broke it in the first week of use

Probably be my next purchase along with some T handle-hex wrenches. I have been back inside the pull start mechanism two more times now. I took my wife down to the park on Saturday and it was going to be her first time running. Three pulls and the string comes out. She was pissed!! It was my fault, the nail not gave. I guess for now I need to at least find another pull rope. I am using some braded nylon string now but I know it won't last long. I recently purchased the rcscrewz kit for the car (LP1), does anybody know if the screws that hold the servo horns on come with it? My steering servo screw came off Saturday and it is gone. I kind of doubt it will be with the kit but we will see.
Peace.

[Danno]

Speaking of pull start string , anyone know of a good replacement ?

[CRSMP5]

pull string... slickest trick, cord from blinds..

[CRSMP5]

screw not in that kit for servo, also return the kit as they are garbage screws

[Danno]

pull string... slickest trick, cord from blinds..
Looks up at the ugly peach colored mini-blinds in office .....

[tryin]

screw not in that kit for servo, also return the kit as they are garbage screws

Whoa, man you cought me off gaurd on that one! I thought these where supposed to be great screws, stainless steel and hex head instead of Phillips. Guess I will have to take a look when I get them. Every article I have read on them was nothing but praise. So are these screws actually poorer quality than the stock ones? I am not planning on replacing all the screws in the car, just figured I would use these as the others broke, stripped, or came up missing.

I LOVE the pull string from a blind Idea, I can't belive the perfect pull string was under my eyes the whole time. Thanks!

[CRSMP5]

well someone broght it up on a different fourm so ive kept that trick of the blind cord in my hed.. but to think of it, they are nice cords ment to withstand pulling on them and such and they do not frey..

the used pro1 i got has the junk scrws in it, lets see i had to cut mor then 5 to get them out.. and i got good tools.. they are soft, good tools do not fit the screws well at all, and they tend to strip real easy due to these facts.. they are poor quality, if you buy a good quality kit you will see the differance..

i also tried one of these kits on a savage a while ago, after fnderbender went under, i still have fender bender screws i use, they were stainless and have held up well.. none of the rc screws that are not as old are usable still.. i got a set of "get screwed" from a guy off central to try and they are far more supirior then stainless.. robert from http://www.atomicmotorsports.com/main.htm sent off screw bags, instructions to a guy who is making up a alloy steel kit for the stadium i think.. might be the buggy, i plan to own 2 of these kits once they are avaliable.. also he has some cf stuff getting made like shock towers, radio tray, diff plate, rear brace of a stadium and such.. but rc screws suck.. ask people who have used them for over a year for a true feeling/opinion of them

[Saboteur]

To remove slack the drivetrain I just unstalled Rubber O rings. That did the trick. NO movement what so ever. CVD's aren't a necessity.

[CRSMP5]

i use pieces of fuel tubing... :)

[chiquete]

Hi there, I´ve had noticed some excessive flex in the chassis of my HBL RR when I try to start it with the starterbox, I´ve torque rods rear and front so the flex is in the center of the chassis, Is there a real difference between the stock and the 7075 chassis that comes with LPRO?? Anyone has experienced the same??

[CRSMP5]

well wanna share a photo of what you have for anti bend rods? my pro1 and pro2 never seemes to have center chassis flex with th pro anti bend cnc rods..

[CRSMP5]

i talked to glenn from http://www.get-screwed.com/ and compiled him a list of screws for the v1 buggy, v2 buggy and the stadium, he is planning on making up a screw kit for us :) he has also been approached for the revo and a few other kits, his savage kit is very nice btw, and with the discussion of rc screw kit figured id give ya the heads up on this..

he is going to make a single kit for all 3 which is nice as it will include the steering hub 22* upper bolts for ease of retro fit to the v1 and stadium to that style c hub.. ill let ya know when i receive mine to test (to make sure all the screws are there aka that i did not miss any) and take some photos... :)

[tryin]

i talked to glenn from http://www.get-screwed.com/ and compiled him a list of screws for the v1 buggy, v2 buggy and the stadium, he is planning on making up a screw kit for us :) he has also been approached for the revo and a few other kits, his savage kit is very nice btw, and with the discussion of rc screw kit figured id give ya the heads up on this..

he is going to make a single kit for all 3 which is nice as it will include the steering hub 22* upper bolts for ease of retro fit to the v1 and stadium to that style c hub.. ill let ya know when i receive mine to test (to make sure all the screws are there aka that i did not miss any) and take some photos... :)

Man you really enjoy this stuff don't you! Thanks for all the time your putting into this. I think I am going to keep the rcscrewz for now and will probably get the ones you are having put together as well. Any info on price? I think in a couple of months I am going to try and pick up another lightning for myself. My wife has already figured out that I am enjoying her car more than she is!

[CRSMP5]

well it was more for the stadium owner who is getting his next week, even though i know roberts got a kit being built, i know the quality of glenns screws, id expect a 30$ price but the plastic box it comes with is large and able to keep clutch bells and such in with ease, it also has real latches.. and it comes with spare screws also... its basically something he sits at the kitchen table and builds.. so quality control is pretty darn good.. ive also not had one of his savage screws come close to wearing out.. and the savage its installed on the owner is a clean freek (my pit bitch).. comes apart at least 1 time a month... i got him a deal on it when he sold the guy a buggy so i could test the kit out... like i said.. ive tried 3 screw kits, his #1 but not stainless, fenderbender is #2 is stainless but quality control of that was incredable, but now out of business, and rc screws is the biggest poc ive ever wasted money on..

i talked to my pit bitch and he wants kits for his buggy and lsp also.. so ill probally just get 3 kits and ill be able to see how well they work in his pro1 buggy, and his lsp.. ill install mine onto the pro2 and we will then tested the kit on each lightning platform..

[Fatdaddy]

i talked to glenn from http://www.get-screwed.com/ and compiled him a list of screws for the v1 buggy, v2 buggy and the stadium, he is planning on making up a screw kit for us :) he has also been approached for the revo and a few other kits, his savage kit is very nice btw, and with the discussion of rc screw kit figured id give ya the heads up on this..

he is going to make a single kit for all 3 which is nice as it will include the steering hub 22* upper bolts for ease of retro fit to the v1 and stadium to that style c hub.. ill let ya know when i receive mine to test (to make sure all the screws are there aka that i did not miss any) and take some photos... :)
if he makes a set for the v2 buggy i will definately buy one!

[CRSMP5]

he is making a set (aka same kit) for all the v1, v2 and stadium truck.. it will have lots of extra screws if ya use it on a v2... :)

[fanke19]

CRSMP5, ask your buddy that's putting the kits together if he's interested in supplying small sample size loctites with his kits. I also started assembling stainless kits about 18 months ago...same kind of stuff...sit down at the kitchen table and start sorting! I still have a ton of stainless screws in the inventory...enough for the rest of me and my buddies for the rest of our lives, and I also have a TON of sample size loctites that I'm stuck with since I'm no longer selling the kits to the public. I sold a ton of kits on Ebay, and I think it was due to my loctite samples that I included. Well, to make a long story short, if he's interested in picking up some brand new in sealed bags loctite for his kits...have him email me or call me. My email address and phone number are at the top of my website. Pictured below is the size that I have. I should also mention, it's specially formulated for very small screws such as the r/c variety...that why I invested in so much of it. The grade of Loctite is 222MS

http://www.f19motorsports.com
http://www.f19motorsports.com/Stainlesskits/f19-tmaxx-128.jpg

[geo8498]

Where does everyone get there parts? My LHS has a small supply. Tower has a few things. But I want to rebuild my front end and need more than the standard bits that they have. I have the RTR 1. I haven't done an inventory yet, but I'm pretty sure I'll be looking for front bulkhead, hinge pin braces (on back of front bulkhead) , steering linkage parts, misc screws, etc. etc. If find a good place, I'll probaly be find some other things I might need. My buggy's taken quite a beating this past year, and I have alot of slop and worn parts on the suspension.

[CRSMP5]

fank.. goto his webpage and shhot him a email.. he may be interested :)

did you try http://www.atomicmotorsports.com/main.htm for parts? his invetory sheet is out of date, so you will have to call him.. else i knwo 2 shops that one of them has a buggy in parts on the wall at min and another with a few odds and ends..

[atm92484_3]

Geo, if you can't find the stuff in a shop, give HC a call; worst case would be getting everything ordered in.

[Fatdaddy]

he is making a set (aka same kit) for all the v1, v2 and stadium truck.. it will have lots of extra screws if ya use it on a v2... :)
sweeeet! keep us updated on his progress :D

[Fatdaddy]

Where does everyone get there parts? My LHS has a small supply. Tower has a few things. But I want to rebuild my front end and need more than the standard bits that they have. I have the RTR 1. I haven't done an inventory yet, but I'm pretty sure I'll be looking for front bulkhead, hinge pin braces (on back of front bulkhead) , steering linkage parts, misc screws, etc. etc. If find a good place, I'll probaly be find some other things I might need. My buggy's taken quite a beating this past year, and I have alot of slop and worn parts on the suspension.
if its not an emergency part i need, then i usually order from hot bodies direct. they arent much more expensive than the LHS.

im pissed they dont do Will Call though. i work in the same city where thier Call center/distribution facility is at. :mad:

[gr8taz nitro]

I've converted my pro 1 over to mostly the black oxide metric screws but I'm having problems finding the 3.5 x 20 and 3.5 x 41 screws that go into the diff housing. I've checked with du-bro and they have the 20 mm length ones but can't get a line on the 41mm screws, any suggestions other than waiting for somebody else to put a good screw kit together?

[CRSMP5]

no idea on the screws.. im sure ill find out what the situation is on it when it becomes avaliable.. rcscrews uses 4mm ones an dyou getta redrill the stuff.. :rolleyes:

[fanke19]

Over the course of last week I painted two identical bodies for my Lightning Pro1 & Pro2 for the 2005 nitro season...both Pro-Line Crowd Pleazer 2.0 for the MP777. I had been told that the body was a little narrower in comparison to the orignial Crowd Pleazer for MP7.5, but I decided to chance it, because I liked the beefier nose design.

Link to all the pics (http://www.f19motorsports.com/custompaint/Jan-13-2005-f19/Jan-13-2005-f19.html)

http://www.f19motorsports.com/custompaint/Jan-13-2005-f19/Jan-13-2005-f19thumbs/Jan-13-2005-f19-016.jpg

I just wanted to know if any of you guys had purchased this body for use on your Pro1 or Pro2...and what you did to make it work better.

EDIT: OK, started cutting and fitting the first CP 2.0 body to the Pro2 Chassis ( with Pro1 splash guards ). It will work better than I thought, and it's coming out nice. Yes, you do have to spread the body a bit to fit out over the splash guards...but it's not that big of a deal now that I'm actually getting into it.

[Fatdaddy]

had a good day at the track yesterday. feels good to be warm and sunny in socal again.

in the main the car dropped the lower screw from the c-hub so the axle poped out of the diff. i was in the D-main anyways. oh well :p

[fanke19]

fank.. goto his webpage and shhot him a email.. he may be interested
CRSMP5: What site am I supposed to go to for his email address? Maybe I missed something, but I went to the get screwed site and didn't see any contact info for emailing him. Is that the right site? :confused:

[Saboteur]

Well my RB S5 is gonna be gone soon. Oh well, that leaves room for some other RB or a Novarossi engine. :D

[CRSMP5]

hmmm odd.. shoot him a PM at the traxxasrevo place on the beginnign of his webpage.. he is the new mod there..

[CRSMP5]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v406/CRSMP5/wave001.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v406/CRSMP5/wave002.jpg

i figured out a few weeks ago i did not have photos of this body.. :)

[fanke19]

I've never seen anything like it.

[geo8498]

Geo, if you can't find the stuff in a shop, give HC a call; worst case would be getting everything ordered in.
thanks. is this andrew?

anyway got some of my parts. looks like stormer hobbies has most of the other things i need.

[atm92484_3]

Yup its me. Stormer seems to have a decent stock. I know my roommate has ordered some stuff from them for his Lightning.

[geo8498]

Yup its me. Stormer seems to have a decent stock. I know my roommate has ordered some stuff from them for his Lightning.
well hi there andrew. you still at hobby city? haven't seen you in a bit. just picked up some of bits this past sunday. talked with mike. nice guy. he was telling me about his serpent.

[atm92484_3]

Yup I'm still there. I worked a few days over Christmas but I had to back off from my summer hours due to school. Theres no where good to leave a car in Oakland and its a real pain in the butt to get out to McMurray during the week.

Yea Mikes a good guy. Waiting for him to finish the car is killing me though; I really wanna see it run. :D

[RC-Archer]

bleah, somewhere in this 67 page thread, somebody posted a list of kyosho/lightning compatible parts. Anybody know where it is?

[CRSMP5]

i think its in teh v2 of the thread.. there is around 175 pages total of this thread.. :D

[Fatdaddy]

well its time to upgrade to the pro shocks. bent the crap out of the front RTR shocks.


shoulda bought the pro kit....:( :p

i used a spare set of my friends shocks to get through the race night. placed last in the B-Main. ran all the way up to second. got bumped to the A-Main. something happened with my steering though. i couldnt turn right. i have no idea what happened. i need to clean it out. im going to try and race again on Sunday :D

[CRSMP5]

ebay for shocks is the best prices.. make sure they have 3.5mm shafts, kyosho, ofna are new take offs listed pretty often.. you can buy a set of 4 for 50ish..

[CRSMP5]

HOT OFF HBs webpages!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
http://www.hotbodiesonline.net/Lightning_GT/GT.jpg
http://www.hotbodiesonline.net/Lightning_GT/chassis.jpg
The Lightning GT is based off the reliable Lightning series and shares a lot of the same features

http://www.hotbodiesonline.net/Lightning_GT/clearance.jpg
With nearly 3 inches of ground clearance, there is not much that can slow this beast down

http://www.hotbodiesonline.net/Lightning_GT/low_pro.jpg
Even with it's enormous ground clearance, the Lightning GT is able to maintain a relativly low center of gravity due to the Lightning series it is based off of.

http://www.hotbodiesonline.net/Lightning_GT/pipe.jpg
The pipe is specially designed to maintain the same volume but fit within the realistic body design
************i like this idea, but i have to wonder how it performs

http://www.hotbodiesonline.net/Lightning_GT/servo.jpg
Dual inline steering servos provide plenty of high torque to the oversized wheels and tires
***************look at the brace set up.. this is how i plan to build my front extra support.
******************now does this have a 2 speed???????????

[Fatdaddy]

looks like thier answer to the Revo

[geo8498]

Actually reminds me more of the GS SUT. Those dual steering servos are neat though. Gives me the idea to do something like that with my Savage, since I have the open spot for the reverse servo. Gotta work out the linkage for it though.

[CRSMP5]

hey shoot me a pm on savage related stuff.. i got what you need if you wanna go that way with it... at least a parts list and photos on how to do it

[CRSMP5]

no their answere to teh revo.. as it kicks its butt if the lightning stadium.. got a thread going in the mt section on the stadium..

[mississippi]

What clutchbells will fit my LP1?

Ofna, Kyosho, Savage? Or does HB make a 15T bell?

13T is stock correct?
Thanks

[CRSMP5]

13t is stock, i prefer ofna cb's that are vented and hardened, note they have to be hardened, BUT with the stock flywheel you need the shaft extnsions in the 5$ ofna shim kit bag, the cb is 2mm longer then the stocker and requires the extension shimmed properly to not be tight..

[mississippi]

Do you happen to know if a savage bell will work, I have a friend with one, but I dont want to take it apart and find that it wont.

But if not, I will just get an ofna.

Thanks

[CRSMP5]

savage will eat its self.. its not hardened

[razataz]

what cradock brakes do I get mp 7.5 or mugan for hb 1

[CRSMP5]

i wish i could rember which i used (call http://www.rcihobbies.com/ ask for robert, he can help and sells them at a very decent price).. BUT ill be honest.. i like the stock breaks alot more.. but i cannot say they are worth it, i found alot of break fade with them..

[Fatdaddy]

wow. i could really use that screw kit now. i stripped out 3 of the countersunk screws that go into the motor mount plate. seems like the stock screws are pretty low quality. ive already stripped out a bunch

[CRSMP5]

tony's screws has a kit out now... he does not have the elusive 3.5mm screws so the aluminum suspention stuff will need drilled to 4mm...

[Fatdaddy]

tony's screws has a kit out now... he does not have the elusive 3.5mm screws so the aluminum suspention stuff will need drilled to 4mm...
oh man. i dont really feel like drilling parts to get them to work. do you know if he will be able to get the 3.5mm screws?

[CRSMP5]

glenn cannot find 3.5mm.. i told him to leve them out as i refuse to drill also.. he is orderign the screws, glenns kit will replace all the self taping screws except the odd ball sizes like radio box, 3.5mm, swaybar mounts, but will have extra engine them funky 4x8mm bolts and all pan heads and such..

[CRSMP5]

who wants instruction sets? i should next week one day be able to get a copy of the pro1, pro2 and stadium instructions scanned..

[v4whlracr]

i know the stock gear ratio in the center diff is 3.6:1 , most race buggies use a 11.7:1 ratio ..... is there a way an Ofna , Kyosho , or Mugen center diff could be used ?!! to increase acceleration ?

[CRSMP5]

http://photobucket.com/albums/v406/CRSMP5/lightning_instructions/

the whole instruction set is under lp1, all the parts are under parts for buggies thru stadium, the 4 pages of stadium is under ls, and pro2 has pages of whats different and lacking on the stadium/version 1 buggy

stock, 47/13t = 3.61 for 11.7 with a 13t cb, which most have, would require a 152t spur id like to see one of them.. think you need to redo your math..

[Fatdaddy]

i know the stock gear ratio in the center diff is 3.6:1 , most race buggies use a 11.7:1 ratio ..... is there a way an Ofna , Kyosho , or Mugen center diff could be used ?!! to increase acceleration ?
i think youre confusing the Spur/CB ratio to the Final Drive Ratio.

[CRSMP5]

http://photobucket.com/albums/v406/CRSMP5/lightning_instructions/

odd my link above does not work.. lets try that again..

[TC3Racer]

i run a 14t clutchbell with the stock clutch set up and i have awesome low-end. I'm running a Paris/Picco G1 on my LP2 and the gearing seems perfect for the engine's powerband. My track has a long back stretch so the 14t allows it to stretch its legs but the low-end is great and i have no complaints with the acceleration. What engine are you running?

[Blacktiger]

Thanks for posting the manuals CRSMP5. :)

[CRSMP5]

your welcome.. i know its been way overdue..

[Casey]

I need to replace the rear shock tower on my son's Lightning RR 1. Are the Lightning 2 shock towers a direct fit? I knew this at one time but can't remember now.

[CRSMP5]

its the same part.. :) well they use pro ones on the v2

[Blacktiger]

Ok, got a small problem. I keep melting clutch choes. Friend of mine had the same problem on his MBX5 till he switched to aluminum shoes. So, I have a set of ofna aluminum shoes. But was wondering what springs should I run? My friend said he was not able to get the shoes to hook up till he dropped down to the 1.8 springs.

Any suggestions?

[CRSMP5]

ahhh no such thing as 1.8 springs.. there is .9, 1.0 and 1.1

what engine ya got? i like 1.0s.. i has issues with 1.1 and am going to be testing 0.9 on my stadium as it melts clutch shoes and well since im putting rossie 8 port turbo in it thats modded by EB will have enough torque to get off the line with no sacrifice on bottom end bog due to weak springs.. my ws7II likes 1.0

[Blacktiger]

OOps, ment the .9. I was tired yesterday. Running the RB S5 still.

[CRSMP5]

ok.. what gearing? what pipe?

the goal is this.. smaller number the sooner the clutch will engauge, this stall speed setting depends on how you have your engine set up, if you lack bottom end as is, a softer spring will help but may make it bog more.. if a higher one is used, it will rev higher before the clutch hooks up eliminating this bog.. BUT this wears clutch shoes..

[Blacktiger]

Ok, current setup is as follows.

RB S5
Ofna 063 pipe, or stock HB pipe
Stock HB spur
14t cb

[CRSMP5]

if you have been usign the 1.0s then try the .9s

[Blacktiger]

Well I just ran it outside with the above setup. But added the aluminum shoes and 1.0 springs. Reset the motor to break in settings and retuned. Seems to run just fine. Has plenty of low end. So I will have to see how it does on our track over the weekend.

[mandt131]

hi guys just joined today brought a hb lightning 2 weeks ago ran in perfectly tuned up fine but still can't keep top speed with my mates mt2 i thought cause it had a bigger engine i'd have blown him away anybody know if its something i'm doin wrong or if i need to alter the gearing.getting to the point off selling it and buying an mt2 just to stop the embarassment of being beat on long straights.
thanx :)

[CRSMP5]

well which engine ya got?

[mandt131]

sorry meant to say 26 hotbodies 3.5cc the kit is standard as it was brought new only fitted crowd pleaser 2 shell and hyper 7 wheels and tyres other than that its standard is there a 2 speed available for this also will changing the pipe make any differance to acceleration and top end speed all help needed
many thanx :D

[CRSMP5]

the onroad lightning street 2 speed can be made to fit, but i doubt its cheap 130-150$ in parts.. the pipe and header thats stock is a decent pipe.. its a copy of a rb 086

so you have a rtr2.. only way you got a 26, what engine temps you running? that engine really likes 280-300f.. if your under 250 lean her out more.. a 14t cb is a good upgrade, the engine has more then enough torque for a 14t or even a 15t.. a 15 may make the clutch slip some though..if that sthe case, some mugen clutch shoes with .9 springs will help with that..

[fanke19]

Mandt131, I have to ask you, when you mounted the Crowd Pleazer 2 body...which body did you use:
CP 2.0 for Kyosho MP 777
CP 2.0 for Ofna Hyper 7
CP 2.0 for Mugen MBX5

I used the CP 2.0 for MP777 on my Hot Bodies Lightning Pro2...but the new CP 2.0 body is quite a bit narrower than the Hot Bodies chassis and splash guards. I just stretch it out over the splash guards, and it works fine...but the contours on the front don't match up perfectly like they do when using the standard CP 1.0 body. Just interested.

[mandt131]

i bought the crowd pleaser 2 body for the hyper 7 it needed reworking round the heat sink and had to trim some away frothe lower rear end to clear the arms and a lot of triming around the front but it looks wicked when its done
:D

[mandt131]

sorry meant to say thanks for the advice will try later if rain stops let you know how i get on :D

[mandt131]

just tried running leaner went like a rocket good fun till glow plug packed up cheers for the advice found a place on the net doin superchargers for all types of lightnings has any1 fitted one yet? :cool:

[CRSMP5]

no dont dot eh blower.. IMO a better engine will get all you need..

[mandt131]

will give the blower a miss have you seen the k&n filters do they make any differance to the performance or just look good took it out on concrete today instead of gravel re tuned to run leaner coulndn't believe how quick it was tried to find the 2 speed from a lightning street can't find anybody in the uk who suppies them....any ideas? :eek: :D

[CRSMP5]

honestly i still think the 2 speed is a waste of time.. seen lots of k&n filters at the track.. too bad they suck dust inthru the ends.. stay with a RC filter.. k&n not ment to be used on rc..

blower = 150ish right? throw a good 180-250$ engine in.. you will not see a need for a 2 speed or a blower..

[mandt131]

ok mate will give the supa charger a miss just fitted all steel servo to steering and high temp glow plug any body else got any good ideas on wot to hop up next :D

[Fatdaddy]

so you have a rtr2.. only way you got a 26, what engine temps you running? that engine really likes 280-300f.. if your under 250 lean her out more.. a 14t cb is a good upgrade, the engine has more then enough torque for a 14t or even a 15t.. a 15 may make the clutch slip some though..if that sthe case, some mugen clutch shoes with .9 springs will help with that..
ive been running mine at 225, and its a dog for top speed. i will lean it out more. ive been fouling glow plugs alot lately

[CRSMP5]

yea i know.. but for all teh savages ive delt with, the one hb peak 26 that came in teh stadium got to be hot.. LOL..

[mandt131]

any body know any good sites for downloadable video clips of nitro cars also any hop up advice will be greatly recieved up to now i have done this to my lightning 2

hyper 7 wheels
wide low profile spiked tyres
all steel steering servo
hyper 7 rear spoiler
racing hi temp glow plug

any other mods let me know :D

[Blacktiger]

Neo-Buggy has some good buggy videos from the 2004 IFMAR Worlds in Furulund. http://www.neo-buggy.net/

[Jeff Cain]

Whoooo, been out of the Lightning scene for a little while. Sold my LP1 about a year or so back, and now I'm buyin an LP2 with a Wasp .25 off of a friend of mine for $170. So what's the scoop on the LP2? Aside from the shock shafts, any other weak points? 7.5 Crowd Pleaser body still fits? In theory it has stronger diff gears, but I didn't have probs with the LP1 gears for that matter. Thoughts? Comments? CRSMP5, it's good to see you're still keeping the faith, bud.

[CRSMP5]

look back a page.. finally got instructions on webspace.. :) but glad to see ya back...

no there has been no issues besides the shock shafts.. also check out the lightning stadium thread in the mt section.. that thread is growing 2-3 pages a week with ease..

[Danno]

Mr. Cain , good to see you out of the witness protection plan . Plan on racing this spring ?
aka danthesignman

[Jeff Cain]

CRSMP5 - saw that, and thanks! Should prove invaluable! Good to hear about the LP2 bein up to snuff too.

Danno, you're everywhere, you're everywhere!! Plan on racin some, but not as much.

[mandt131]

tried link but no joy just says page unavailable but i'll keep trying thanx :D
any one got any good hop ideas please :D

[Danno]

CRSMP5 - saw that, and thanks! Should prove invaluable! Good to hear about the LP2 bein up to snuff too.

Danno, you're everywhere, you're everywhere!! Plan on racin some, but not as much.
Hey Jeff , I ended up with 2 pro 1`s (albrights and neil`s )got an old 24.7 in one and a picco 26 in the other what are the boys running at hh thats legal and won`t make the accountant cringe ?

[Jeff Cain]

Well, you know we don't worry too much about what's legal and what ain't. BUT, if you can swing it, get a 21 for fuel economy reasons. Something like your Picco 26 will drain your fuel tank in about 5 minutes, 6 minutes at best. You're lookin at $220 and up for a decent 21. On the low end, there's the RB Concepts S5 and S7. The S5 five has a little more torque than the S7 down low, but they're both race worthy engines. On the higher end of things ($315ish) you're lookin at either an RB Concepts WS7II or a Rex P5. Again with the P5 being a little more torquey down low, but not by a whole lot. OS makes a sweet runnin engine, but most folks don't get as many gallons through them as they would an Italian engine. It's not uncommon for a well cared for RB Concepts engine to still be going stong after 8 gallons. MY personal pick would be the RB Concepts WS7II, or an RB Concepts S7 if money were an object. However, the extra $100 spent will get an engine that won't dissappoint.

[Danno]

Being a noob to 1/8 scale and running the picco (on-off-on-off) I was confused as to why I couldn`t make the "Von-triple" but practicing after the season was over I realized the front wheels where unloading on the approach (7000 wt in center diff) so next year I`m going to try 10,000 , better tires and a little thicker oil in the front shocks to keep the weight transfer down , no ? The accountant says look into the OS , is that the v-spec or something ? Or I could stick with the 26 and run 6 ft. of fuel line !! (Cody isn`t the fastest gas man) Plus I think I need to upgrade to fm , know of any body with a good Tx for sale ?

[Jeff Cain]

Well, the OS runs about $300, and will last about half as long as an RB for $315. They're both matched as far as piston/sleeve fits go, but the OS uses a pinch fit for compression, where as the RB uses a tapered sleeve AND piston. When the RB is broken in, the pinch is gone. In an OS when the pinch is gone, it's time for a rebuild.

[Jeff Cain]

Sweet little find, someone took a picture of a LP2, only it's the european version, the Carson "King of Dirt".

http://www.******.net/media/King_of_dirt_2.jpg

[CRSMP5]

www.photobucket.com save the photo and host it there so we can see..

[CRSMP5]

ohh also jeff.. this was on ebay before xmas.. the one you photoed was a pro1 version by the way, this is better.. its a few pages back if you want to read its description.. well worth looking it up just look in dec's posts..

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v406/CRSMP5/lightning/untitled1.bmp
look close at the chassis.. save it and blow it up even..

[Jeff Cain]

Ya I saw that, it's freakin cool! I take it you never got adequate donations to get it?

[CRSMP5]

nope.. and before xmas is not a time to temp me on such things.. too bad it was not on ebay 2 weeks ago..

[mandt131]

hi every 1 sorry to be a pain but i'm new to this nitro stuff wot can i do to improve my lightning 2 rr i've sorted the body to a crowd pleaser 2 hyper 7 rear spoiler and hyper 7 wheels 645 all steel steering servo any more mods i can do to improve this buggy its currantly running the 26 3.5cc it came with as its new would prefer not to change this till i get problems

[CRSMP5]

pro parts.. use them to upgrade it even more, then once the engine dies a nice engine..

[Jeff Cain]

A 625 throttle servo would go well with your 645 steering servo.

[mandt131]

A 625 throttle servo would go well with your 645 steering servo.
wot will it improve don't mean to be stupid but its all new to me fitted pro front and rear anti chassis bend bars today and changed camber on front wheels cornering better now :)

[Jeff Cain]

Much quicker throttle response and much stronger brakes. That is if you're still using the stock throttle servo.

[kuhn2373]

645 is too slow i would go with something a little faster for steering and for trottle and brake try a futaba 3010 it real fast much more responsive

[Jeff Cain]

Well, I was assuming he wasn't putting a lot of money in it, otherwise he'd have a couple Airtronics 359's in there.

[Saboteur]

625MG proven to be enough steering for my 8th buggy. It did great on and offroad. Infact, onroad allowed me to have a tight turning radius of 2 1/2-3ft. Very fast for .15sec of transit time and 94oz of torque.

[mandt131]

thank you all for the advice will see wot i can do and will let you know how i get on many thanx
ps only using buggy to bash about with my matesjust would be good to beat my mates savage truckzilla but he's got the bigger motor think its a 7cc :D

[Danno]

i haven`t had the best of luck with the 645 hitech , I`ve had 3 just go "bad " . But I presently have hitech digitals in both buggies hs-5645 in one hs5625 inthe other , both steering , I think they rock .

[mandt131]

i haven`t had the best of luck with the 645 hitech , I`ve had 3 just go "bad " . But I presently have hitech digitals in both buggies hs-5645 in one hs5625 inthe other , both steering , I think they rock .
well just got back in before it snowed me in must have some torque in the 645 stripped the plastic arm for the steering new i should have fitted the one it came with instead of using the original one gonna see if i can pick up a 625 for the throttle this week :D

[CRSMP5]

yea hitech is different horn then futaba.. must use the hitech ones

[mandt131]

yea hitech is different horn then futaba.. must use the hitech ones
cool how long you been into nitro cars and do you know if any parts from the hyper 7 will fit seen some wicked purple alloy arms and stuff

[CRSMP5]

this is 3rd season of racing, and been into hb since the begining.. ofna hyper 7 no.. some gs parts, lot of kyosho parts fit..

[v4whlracr]

i have always liked JR racing servos , I have a Z590M as my throttle/brake servo and a Z650M as my steering servo . just keep in mind ; you get what you pay for !