Team Losi LST Monster Truck

[Monsterbrad]

If you get the Kimborough get the black HD one not the white one!!!!!!
The black one is for big trucks and has a stronger spring in it
Good luck getting it to fit they are kinda big but I have not seen the one servo mod yet but would like to.
post pics when you are done

[Ball Racing]

I had to cut my kimbroughs alot, because I used two JR650's, and those HD servo savers.

I was going with one servo but I didn't like the play in the rod that connects both sides together.

I would use the dynamite steering set-up.

[Monsterbrad]

Dynamite steering set up?????????????

[Speedtester]

Dynamite steering set up?????????????

Probally this

http://www.horizonhobby.com/Shop/ByCategory/Product/Default.aspx?ProdID=DYN7204B

http://www.horizonhobby.com/ProdInfo/DYN/250/DYN7204B-250.jpg

[WorldOfNoise]

Yeah, I have that.

[Monsterbrad]

I will be getting that.
It takes care of that stupid rod that they use as the center link.
I like :D

[2DMaxLST]

I will be getting that.
It takes care of that stupid rod that they use as the center link.
I like :D


$40 Dynamite Steering kit after one trip to track.
http://www.dennisnadams.com/tmaxx/LST/dynamite0001%20(Small).JPG


$10 B.A.C. link :)
http://www.dennisnadams.com/tmaxx/LST/racer_build_9_1_bac_link.JPG

[Cain]

the bac link seems to be the best right now.

[tmaxxster4375]

And where can I get one.

[Monsterbrad]

thats a stock rod with another piece welded to it
but its a great idea
I have not had any problems bending that rod other then it got destroyed in a recent crash with another LST at high speed

[2DMaxLST]

thats a stock rod with another piece welded to it
but its a great idea
I have not had any problems bending that rod other then it got destroyed in a recent crash with another LST at high speed

It is not a stock rod at all, much higher strength steel and larger in diameter. If you race you will eventually bend the stocker and even a very slight bend will mess up your steering.


http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y260/AKFireMedic/103_0398.jpg

You can contact and/or paypal the maker at firemedic@gci.net.

Click here to read about it on LST central (http://www.lstcentral.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=2265&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0)

[Monsterbrad]

the holes in the stock steering arms will have to be drilled bigger and the lock collars will have to be changed also.
Not a big deal just letting people that are reading this know that.
It is a sweet set up for that rod they have in there stock.
It holds up pretty well for how thin it is :D

[2DMaxLST]

Video: I'm using the B.A.C. link in this video (http://www.dennisnadams.com/tmaxx/LST/Can't%20Stop_3.wmv)

[Monsterbrad]

nice
anybody seen the new Mach 28 run yet????
is it even out

[2DMaxLST]

http://www.dennisnadams.com/tmaxx/LST/accelerating.jpg

[Colt M4]

Your body looks awesome did you paint the lettering on it?

[2DMaxLST]

There are no stickers on the body, it is all painted. (except for the race number stickers) RCBODZ painted it.

Here a pic from when I first got it.
http://www.dennisnadams.com/tmaxx/LST/New_RacerBody_4%20(Small).JPG

[Colt M4]

How much did it cost you? And also what tires are you running?

[2DMaxLST]

How much did it cost you? And also what tires are you running?

I paid $60 plus the cost of the body.

Panther Pythons on 40series have worked the best for me.

Here they are compared to some ProLine 40series bowties
http://www.dennisnadams.com/tmaxx/LST/Pythons_9_2%20(Small).JPG

http://www.dennisnadams.com/tmaxx/LST/Pythons_9_10_small.JPG

[Monsterbrad]

Those pythons have the standard beed to glue into the rim??

[2DMaxLST]

They have bead for the new Revo wheels but they glue right up to 40 series without trimming. The work very well on my track. I've sold all my bowties after using these.

[Cain]

heard good things about the pythons,

[Monsterbrad]

the LST had a baby for all you guys that don't know yet!
Mini LST is out pics are on the losi site and on here.
I will have one :D

[Monsterbrad]

LST 2 is HERE :)

[abels621]

i want one so bad!!

[Cain]

the LST2 looks nice, though if you have upgraded your LST1 with all the necessary upgrades you probably don't need the new truck, especially if you have the RPM Arms.

[2DMaxLST]

the LST2 looks nice, though if you have upgraded your LST1 with all the necessary upgrades you probably don't need the new truck, especially if you have the RPM Arms.

I'm interested in the new Chassis rails for my LST.

[Monsterbrad]

The new truck still looks good though.
This hobby is going so strong I like it :D

[Monsterbrad]

The new 28 seems pretty good.
Has a little more torque then the 26.
I will soon drag race my buddy that has the new 28 with my original fresh 26.
From what I have seen so far from the 4 port 28 is the 26 7 port is going to run pretty close to it.
We'll see

[Flying Finn]

Is the Collari.32 direct fit for the LST? I've heard that there's some problems with the stock LST header and this Collari,is that true? I assume that Losi's Spin-Start will work with Collari's roto-plate.

[Ball Racing]

I ground down the header flange to clear the pull start on my .030
The .032 with the roto start might have more clearance.
I cut a little on my carb area of the block because the, flywheel was so so close to the block.

[LST Nut]

Well, I thought I'd just share a little after fighting the truck for several months. I finally broke down and took the engine out of the truck. After taking the truck to several hobbyshops, allowing them to try and tune it, and getting no consistent result, I gave up. The one thing that I noticed while going through all of this was that the plugs fouled pretty frequently with what looked like little metal pieces, although I could never dig them out for proof.

Now, upon examination of the underside of the engine, I find a bulge in the block, and a small crack down there as well. I am pretty much at a loss as to how the engine might run after an event that would cause it. It still turned over without a problem, and had good compression.

I originally posted about the problem back in August. Thanks to the guy that listed the details to return the engine. That is what finally spurred me into thinking it might have to go back.

If I am looking for a back up engine, in case the one I get back from Horizon develops a problem, which one would you guys suggest? I have only gotten to run the truck for about 30 seconds post break in so far. I really can't wait to finally see what the truck can do.

Thanks,

Brad

[metalry101]

Sounds like what happened to mine. I had the dreaded washer. The truck ran great, and then all of a sudden it wouldn't fire. It had tons of "compression" (actually pinch), but it didn't have compression because the washer had found it's way between the piston and the sleeve and taken a very small chunk out of my piston, which meant I didn't have a sealed combustion chamber, so the engine wouldn't fire and run.

[_Cy_]

How's it going. New to the thread and I see you guys have alot of info! I am in need of a replacement linkage for my lst. Obvious question but I though I'd see what you guys are running before I go buy one.

Appreciate any advice.

[Monsterbrad]

which linkage?
there is alot of that on this truck man :D

[metalry101]

which linkage?
there is alot of that on this truck man :D
I would assume it's the one that doesn't work worth a damn, the throttle linkage.

[_Cy_]

I would assume it's the one that doesn't work worth a damn, the throttle linkage.


Yeah I should have specified, it is the crap throttle linkage. Any recommendations?

[metalry101]

Convert it to a spring loaded system, like what most 1/8 buggies run. If done right, it works pretty much perfectly. The throttle linkage that comes on a Savage is as bad or worse as the one on the LST, so lots of people have made their own buggy style linkages for it, it shouldn't be too hard to do for the LST. I haven't converted mine yet, but I plan on picking up the materials for it this weekend and seeing what I can manage. If you want another example of what works, check out the linkage on a T-Maxx. I'm not a fan of their vehicles, but unlike HPI and Losi, at least they know how to do a throttle linkages.

[Colt M4]

Does it look like the New LST2 linkage would work good? Because if it does I will just buy the linkage kit.

[Monsterbrad]

I am pretty sure you can get a kit from ofna to change it all over to 1/8 scale buggy type.
Check your hobby shop or an on line place like
amainhobbies.com

[_Cy_]

I appreciate the input. Thanks.

[metalry101]

Yes, the LST2 linkage looks exactly like what you want. That's infinitely better than the linkage on the standard LST.

[Monsterbrad]

I always thought for 600 bucks you would get better but the truck does come with some nice radio equiptment.
This is still my favorite truck :)

[TXTRCR]

im getting a new nitro monster, ive been eyeballing the losi lst, now i see theres an lst 2. so my question is this. Is the lst2 worth the money? anyone have an lst2 or is it not out yet. pretty much every site i go to has stats for the lst with a picture of the lst2 or are the trucks just that much alike. whats been changed on the lst2.

[Monsterbrad]

Different wheels
aluminum diff cases
ugly body :D
gear cover which is cheezy from what I have seen
and re designed front hubs and a few other small things
linkage to throttle and the new 28 engine which my buddy has one right now and it runs just like the 26 with a little hardly noticeable torque!
Top end is the same.
So for all the stuff you get minus the body I would say yes it's worth it if you are buying one totaly new.
It has all the stuff you will do to the LST any ways already there and done.
The new engine has a great carb on it also redesigned and works very well.
Not so on and off like the 26's carb is.
If I had it to do over again I would buy the 2 and stick a Chevy Extended cab body on it.
And Bash away

[LST Nut]

Hey Guys,

Do you know which other engines fit the LST? Is there a list somewhere or do all big block engines fit?

Thanks

[metalry101]

Hey Guys,

Do you know which other engines fit the LST? Is there a list somewhere or do all big block engines fit?

Thanks
All non-bumpstart big blocks fit. Technically, bumpstart big blocks will fit as well...except the truck won't be very fun to drive since you won't be able to start it.

[LST Nut]

Forgive my ignorance but are bump start engines like those used in onroad cars where they put them on a box to start the engine?

Are the pull start engines easily converted to the rotostart like came with the original engine?



All non-bumpstart big blocks fit. Technically, bumpstart big blocks will fit as well...except the truck won't be very fun to drive since you won't be able to start it.

[metalry101]

Forgive my ignorance but are bump start engines like those used in onroad cars where they put them on a box to start the engine?

Are the pull start engines easily converted to the rotostart like came with the original engine?
That is correct. Bumpstart engines are used in onroad racing (both 1/10 sedan and 1/8), and in 1/8 buggy and truggy racing. The only true monster truck that can be bumpstarted is the Revo, and that requires a custom box.

As for the rotostart thing...I'm not sure. There are a lot of different engines which can be converted to HPI's Rotostart system, but their system is garbage. The good thing is that you could buy the backplate and the HPI shaft (it uses a dogbone end, not a hex end), and use your Losi starter. Personally, I'm a diehard fan of pull starts. I have 5 nitro monster trucks, and they're all pull-start.

[Colt M4]

Did anybody see the review of the O.S. 30VG on RC universe. If you go under Hot news and products and go to the last page on the engine there is a link. I might pick one up for next year.

[doesgo]

In case any of you need LST parts, there's a huge sale on them here (http://www.smfstore.com/index.php?cPath=69_66[/url). Some are over 50% off!

[Monsterbrad]

Cool
But some of those prices are not that good.
They do have a bit of stuff though.
Which is cool
My new LST has been pretty good so far.
Minus the 3 blown engine's I had to put in it but horizon was good about it

[metalry101]

Cool
But some of those prices are not that good.
They do have a bit of stuff though.
Which is cool
My new LST has been pretty good so far.
Minus the 3 blown engine's I had to put in it but horizon was good about it
What price isn't that good? I work in a hobby shop, and I plan on ordering some of that stuff if it's still for sale next time I get paid. It takes a helluva good price for me to do that.

[Monsterbrad]

Check ebay !
Have to watch things closely
you can get some screaming deals on there.

[rc-empire]

Check ebay !
Have to watch things closely
you can get some screaming deals on there.

I think this is the best example!! :eek:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Team-Losi-LST-Complete-Aluminum-Arm-Set-NEW-NR_W0QQitemZ6015482750QQcategoryZ44028QQrdZ1QQcmdZ ViewItem

[metalry101]

I think this is the best example!! :eek:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Team-Losi-LST-Complete-Aluminum-Arm-Set-NEW-NR_W0QQitemZ6015482750QQcategoryZ44028QQrdZ1QQcmdZ ViewItem
Unless you're going to melt those down and make something useful out of them, that's not a screaming deal. Metal arms are just bling. In the real world, they cause more breakage than they prevent. If the stock arms aren't strong enough for you, I'd suggest investing in RPM's replacement arms. They're damn near bulletproof, but they'll usually give before everything else they're bolted to does, which is a good thing. Bulkheads and other chassis parts are time consuming and somewhat difficult to replace. Suspension arms are quite the opposite.

[Monsterbrad]

I have to agree
Aluminum arms are nothing but looks.
They are just super hard on the rest of the truck especially on the bulk heads and stuff.
The only truck well truggy that aluminum arms help on are the Hot Bodies LSP cause the stock plastic ones are **** they flex alot.
Look at it this way when you hit something or say someone hits you like Kris did to me it blew the arms off and nothing else was harmed.
You need to have a soft point for collision points and crash points.
Keeps major damage from occurring. :cool:

[Racing t]

It is ok to run the LST with oddonel 30%? can I make the break-in with 30%?

[losifreak2004]

Yup.

[metalry101]

It is ok to run the LST with oddonel 30%? can I make the break-in with 30%?
I run Odonnel 30% RTR in all of my trucks. It's awesome fuel.

[Racing t]

but for break-in its ok?

[metalry101]

Ya, it'll be fine.

[Monsterbrad]

I would have to say in my past 17 years in this hobby the intire fuel thing and changing fuel is all just a bunch of bull.
As long as you re tune after changing fuels and watch the temp it will be fine.
I like 20% cause it's the best medium power and is a bit easier on the engine.
But I know guys that will only run 30% also.
It's preference.
This truck runs very good on 20% any ways !
Anybody else try the new 28 yet??????????

[Colt M4]

Hey if anybody is looking for even more power from their LST you should check out the new pipe and manifold combination from werks racing. It is specifaclly designed for .28's and up it would probably work pretty good with the Mach 26 and 28.

[Monsterbrad]

Post a link to that pipe so we can all have a look.
I know I am lazy I could just got to there site :D
Oh well
The new 28 runs pretty well after about a half a gallon my buddy Kris's runs very well.
Nice and smooth on the power un like the Mach that is like a light switch !
:D

[Colt M4]

http://werksracing.com/product.do?sku=WRX6672C
Theres the shortcut.

[Monsterbrad]

There is no pic there for it.
The stock pipe seems to run pretty good as far as I have seen.
I have been running and racing for a while now and I can see that these expensive pipes are not always the answer.
I raced all summer with a 10 dollar Hot Bodies pipe on my truggy with the 4.6 engine and it ran with all the other guys that were there with expensive engines and pipes.
I am still a little sketchy about tuned pipes! :cool:

[Colt M4]

This pipe is made for extra big block motors. It is at least a 1/2 of a inch longer than the stock pipe that is why is need a different header.

[losifreak2004]

There's a difference between a tuned pipe and a pipe that is actually designed for more performance. If it's not made by a reputable engine manufacturer (Werks, Novarossi, OFNA/Picco, Sirio, Axe Motor Rossi, etc.) or someone like Jammin' or Losi or Associated, it's probably just for looks and hoping that someone who sees the words "tuned pipe" will buy it.

[Monsterbrad]

Pipes are over rated!
Thats all there is to it

[metalry101]

Pipes are over rated!
Thats all there is to it
No, actually they're not. Ever seen the difference between the stock MGT pipe and a Fantom tuned pipe? How about the difference between the RTR Savage pipe and the THS pipe? If you had, you wouldn't think pipes are overrated. In the LST's case, you *might* have a point because the stock pipe is by no means your average RTR garbage, but for most vehicles, a quality aftermarket pipe makes a very, very big difference.

[Monsterbrad]

You are comapring apples to banannas here!
Plastic pipe versus metal!
The MGT stock pipe and engine are pretty weak to begin with.
Just too much truck for that little 21 all though it was fun for a while stock.
As for this truck its awesome just the way it os for an all around basher truck with the Stock pipe and Mach .26.
Impressed I am :D

[losifreak2004]

The Mach .26 and stock LST pipe are a great combination.

That said..to say pipes are over-rated is blasphemy. Tuned pipes that are actually "tuned" make nearly as much difference as tuning with your clutch.

[doesgo]

I think the problem comes in when the stock crap pipes on RTRs are called "tuned pipes," which is what they're usually called. The differences between one of those "tuned pipes" and a real, good-quality tuned pipe are significant.

[losifreak2004]

Bingo.

[Monsterbrad]

Well I agree with that a little bit but I still think that some of these high priced pipes are just not worth it.

[jr_racing]

I am using Adam Drakes setup for my LST2, and he is calling for a "thin" sway bar used only in the rear, 30wt shock fluid in all shocks, 50,000wt diff fluid front&rear, 2deg toe in rear only.

My question is the sway bar. What is it used for? To keep the rear end from sagging? For rear stabalization?

If it is just for sagging purposes, could I do without the sway bar, and increase to 35 or 40wt shock fluid in the rear shocks only?

I would like some seasoned peoples input on the sway bar.

Thanks,
TUCK

[Monsterbrad]

All the sway bar does is keep the suspension and the chassis together.
It prevents one wheel from lifting way up or going way down in a turn or over rough stuff.
So in sense it makes the truck stay level through the corners intstead of leaning like an old Buick.
my truggy is equipt with them and I can say they are very helpful especially on a truck like this cause it has so much suspension travel.

[jr_racing]

Thanks for the input, and insite.

jr_racing

[astainback]

Any problems with the LST2 motor??

[Monsterbrad]

All I can say about the new 28 is
AWESOME
they run sweet like the Mach 26 did easy to tune and start.
It takes a bit longer for it to break in but once it has about a half a gallon in it it rips !!!!!
How long it will last I am not sure of cause I have has some problems with my 26's but horizon will replace them free of charge if its something crazy like the rod's that were letting go in the 26.
My buddy has about a gallon in his 28 now and it runs great.
More torque then the 26 but the top speed is the same.
Smoother un like the 26 that is kinda on and off for the power and the carb is cool as well with it's internal return spring.
I would say for the money you can't go wrong :)

[Ball Racing]

A sway bar Can make the inside tire lift off the track in a corner..
And shock fluid will not keep a truck from sagging, it dampens- it's does not add to spring tension which supports the truck.
It make it "appear" to not sag as fast because of the fluid moving through the pistons holes but it just fine tunes the running suspension, not a static suspension

[Monsterbrad]

Sway bars still help on the track!
They help stabalize the chassis in corners and tie the suspension movement together which helps too

[Ball Racing]

Of course it helps,
But you need the right pre load for Your conditions....

[Monsterbrad]

Well this is where I say I have no clue for this truck.
Its just my play truck.
I stick with the truggy on the track :D

[bpg1978]

The proper preload or shock setup for this truck isn't such a complicated matter. the stock silver springs are a good balance. I use flourecent yellow in front and back and it runs good. It depends on the track/conditions.

[jr_racing]

I still haven't put a drop of fuel thru her. I am still building it up the way I want it right now.

jr_racing

[Monsterbrad]

LET ME MAKE THIS VERY CLEAR TO EVERYBODY!
I JUST GOT OFF THE PHONE WITH HORIZON !!!!!
THE .427 ENGINE THAT IS INCLUDED WITH THE NEW LST-2 is a Better Version of THe MACH 26.
IT'S NOT A .28 !!!!! :rolleyes:

[bpg1978]

LET ME MAKE THIS VERY CLEAR TO EVERYBODY!
I JUST GOT OFF THE PHONE WITH HORIZON !!!!!
THE .427 ENGINE THAT IS INCLUDED WITH THE NEW LST-2 is a Better Version of THe MACH 26.
IT'S NOT A .28 !!!!! :rolleyes:

I feel you. I thought that a .28 was larger than .427.....like .46 or something like that. The same thing as the big Savage and I think the MGT. But the LST2 is still a good buy, in particular if you're racing. Those wheels and tires are a must upgrade to have. If you're a basher, either one is a deal. But the piece of mind, knowing your engine is upgraded, is worth the 50 bucks more.
Oh yeah....I still haven't broken in the Collari 32 I got 5+ months ago.The weather's cold and wet out here in Cincinnati. And I'm scared....too much power. Does anyone think I should change the spur/pinion ratio so it won't flip?

[smileyboy]

How is the LST as far as breaking? I own a MGT and it is pretty good. I have owned a XXX4 which broke alot. I was thinking of making the LST a basher (daily) racer(on ocassion). please give me your thoughts

[Monsterbrad]

The LST has it's weak points but they all do.
As far as the Collari .32 I would just leave the truck alone.
Run it and see what ya think.
I have an opinion on that but I will not say anything till you break it in and run it some.

[Colt M4]

bpg1978 if you are going to run the Collari you have to get the Werks racing pipe that is made for so it doesn't leak because it has a .12 size exhaust port. Monsterbrad alot of the guys at LSTcentral.com seem to really like that motor and say it is great motor.

[Monsterbrad]

I will voice my opinion when bpg1978 gets his in his truck and running.
I have heard the same also.
The LST 2 is lookin better and better :D

[zero sk8er]

i got a few questions about tuning the mach engine (lst 2). first of all, do factory settings of 4 turns out on hsn, and 2 turns out on lsn work for you guys? i started up my engine for the first time today, and it took me 30 minutes to set it up properly so that it runs. the factory settings were so rich that i had to give it 75% throttle to make it move. i use 20% o'donnel fuel, the glowplug is fine, and my ignitor is fine. the lines had no leaks. anyway im curious if the factory settings actually worked for you guys, i've had 4 different engines and all 4 of the factory settings for those engines worked perfect.

now comes the tuning questions. since it was running really rich with factory settings, i had to open the hsn about 3 turns out for break in. it was running about 170-190, which was the perfect temp. the pipe emitted a ton of smoke from low speed, and it was spurting a ton of oil on idle. the problem is whenever is open up, it acts erratic and sputters/dies. what im thinking is that i should've set the hsn richer, and the lsn leaner? its got a ton of smoke at low speed, and barely any smoke at high speed. usually that would mean that its lean, but what's confusing is that the highes the temp ever got was 200 degrees, without the body on. is it the lsn that causes the pipe to sputter out oil at idle, or the lsn?


i also got a throttle linkage problem. it is very sticky, usually when i open it up with my radio, the carb would be stuck at wot, and pulling the brakes doesn't get it to close up. how can i fix this?

[Raster]

Well, I just got an LST2. I held off on the LST1, because of all the problems, but am optimistic about this one.

Monsterbrad - I'm glad you got one. I'm looking forward to feedback from your experiences with it.

By the way, it looks like the shock caps are plastic. Is it a worthwhile upgrade, to replace them with the aluminum Losi shock caps?

Does anyone have suggestions on a good pipe for the LST? I'm thinking about either a Fantom (for the MGT), a JP-1 or a JP-2.

Do the stock steering servos hold up well? I'm thinking about replacing them with a couple of JR650s and putting one of the 590 on the throttle.

Also - Monsterbrad mentions above that the carb on the new engine has a return spring. Does this mean I don't need to add a throttle return spring?

Thanks for any feedback!

[Monsterbrad]

The engine that comes in the LST 2 is that same engine as the Mach 26 but it has been modded a bit.
Ports were cut for better flow.
I know this cause Horizon told me and I tore the brand new 427 I have down to see it with my own eyes.
Yes it has a throttle return spring but a fail safe can never hurt.
As far as the tuning issues I have read here.
The low speed needle in these engine's should not be messed with from the factory till after the engine is broken in.
I do know however after running Mach's for over a year now they like the low end leaner and the high end pretty lean also as far as turns out.
You want the engine to run good around 200 plus and make good smoke this is the key is smoke whenever you peg the throttle you should have a smoke trail till the engine peaks RPM's.
So what I would say to do is lean the low end and leave the high end and see what happens.
These engines are not that bad to tune but the new one being ported and that may be a little more touchy.
Just so you guys know I have the engine not the LST 2 truck yet.
That may happen in the spring.
I use this truck as a basher cause its simply the funest monster truck out there in my mind.
Happy New year to you all !

[zero sk8er]

The engine that comes in the LST 2 is that same engine as the Mach 26 but it has been modded a bit.
Ports were cut for better flow.
I know this cause Horizon told me and I tore the brand new 427 I have down to see it with my own eyes.
Yes it has a throttle return spring but a fail safe can never hurt.
As far as the tuning issues I have read here.
The low speed needle in these engine's should not be messed with from the factory till after the engine is broken in.
I do know however after running Mach's for over a year now they like the low end leaner and the high end pretty lean also as far as turns out.
You want the engine to run good around 200 plus and make good smoke this is the key is smoke whenever you peg the throttle you should have a smoke trail till the engine peaks RPM's.
So what I would say to do is lean the low end and leave the high end and see what happens.
These engines are not that bad to tune but the new one being ported and that may be a little more touchy.
Just so you guys know I have the engine not the LST 2 truck yet.
That may happen in the spring.
I use this truck as a basher cause its simply the funest monster truck out there in my mind.
Happy New year to you all !

thanks for the tuning help. before i can tune it though, i have to fix the carb sticking problem. it turns out that it's not the linkage at all, but the carb itself. it takes some force to pull the carb in and out, with the linkage off. i was also wondering if i might have developed a vacuum leak. how can i fix this problem?

[Monsterbrad]

The air leak can be fixed by putting small amounts of high temp RTV the red kind around all the area's that have o-rings.
Don't go crazy just a tiny amount.
Also the new engine does not have a rod bearing at the wrist pin location.
This for racing is NO GOOD.
It will hold up but for how long?
I did not like to see that.
Back to the pool of engine choices.
FOR SALE
Also I have a brand new Mach 427 never started!
$175.00 shipped anywhere in the US

[tony433]

Hey guys i'm new to this chat site but i just broke in my lst2 and thought i had a front bearing seal leak but it was just the fuel filter was not tighted down .oh anothe heads up is the set screws on the f/r main drive shafts make sure you put loctite on them they will come out.

[charles]

Hey guys i'm new to this chat site but i just broke in my lst2 and thought i had a front bearing seal leak but it was just the fuel filter was not tighted down .oh anothe heads up is the set screws on the f/r main drive shafts make sure you put loctite on them they will come out.THTRHRTHSRT

I HOPE THIS WORKS. MY FIRST TIME MAKING A REPLY

[Monsterbrad]

All of you guys that are running the new 427 ported Mach 26!!!
BEWARE OF THE ROD !!!!!
IT is NOT bushed on the top inside the piston where the wrist pin is.
This is no good and engine life will be effected by this.
Some of the older Mach's have double bushed rods and the rod is interchangeable.
I know of a guy that can get rods for the new 427 but we need names of ten people before the order can be placed.
If you are interested let me know!

[charles]

I'm Interested In Getting A Mach Port 26 Put Into My Savage. So Put Me On Your List.

[davetexas22]

I know it has probably has been posted before but what does everybody think about the LST2 or 1 being a good racer vs the Revo. I had a Revo for awhile and got rid of it. It seems like everybody had one.

[Monsterbrad]

I too had the Redo (revo)
I have to say that its a great truck but they are just not a pure bread monster truck.
The LST 2 is an absolute in my mind.
The truck has all the stuff that needs to be done to the LST 1 right from the get go.
It's well worth the extra 50 bucks!

[davetexas22]

thanks for the info.

I too had the Redo (revo)
I have to say that its a great truck but they are just not a pure bread monster truck.
The LST 2 is an absolute in my mind.
The truck has all the stuff that needs to be done to the LST 1 right from the get go.
It's well worth the extra 50 bucks!

[Monsterbrad]

No problem!
This is the best monster truck around as far as I am concerned!
The new LST 2 looks very good.
That has been placed on the wish list! :)

[Racing t]

hey guys any ideas on what servo saver to use with a single servo steering LST??

[LST Nut]

I can now whole heartedly agree, the LST is a blast to drive. My first time to really drive the truck since I got it in August was the other day. AWESOME. My son is into Monster Jam so the Grave digger body with the yellow springs ripping wheelies and going over on it's nose with the brakes really gets him going.

I have seen that I need to do "the necessary upgrades" but I can't find them on this list. Could someone reprint them for me. I'm having too much fun to quit now.

Besides, I live in the city and have finally found a way to annoy my obnoxious neighbors enough to send them inside. :-)

[Challenger]

The LST has it's weak points but they all do.
As far as the Collari .32 I would just leave the truck alone.
Run it and see what ya think.
I have an opinion on that but I will not say anything till you break it in and run it some.

Questions: LST1 Engine swap

1.) Is the Collari .32 a direct bolt in for an LST 1? If not, what would I need to do?

2.) Since I oval track, will the top end greatly increase over the Mach 26 with a Collari .32?

3.) There is a new OS motor out there, I think it's a 28, would it be better than a Collari .32?

Thoughts, comments, 2 cents all welcome.

[Colt M4]

The Collari is basically a direct bolt in but you will need their pipe and header combo for the LST. The top end will increase greatly. Just a comment the collari is hard to tune I wouldn't reccomend if you don't always want to be playing with the needles. I thought O.S. motor was the .30VG?

[Monsterbrad]

If you are oval track racing spend the extra money and get a high RPM .21 with lots of power.
The problem with these 28's is they are fairly low RPM engines and trying to scream one around an oval will be very hard on the rod.
The Mach engine is not going to last long at all cause the rod is not double bushed but let me tell you if you get a good one they run awesome for a $150.00 engine.
The Novarossi Ws 7 II would be a good choice of the or a P-5.
These engines are more for buggies but they rev and they make great power.

[Racing t]

what is oval racing?

[Colt M4]

MonsterBrad what do you consider low? In monster trucks you can't expect any motor to turn more than 34000 at the most. The NovaRossi .28 8port turns 42000rpm and even the 3port turns 38000. I just bought a Top .28 3port and it just plain screams. The quality is unbelievable. Got it from my local hobby shop for 225.

[Challenger]

If you are oval track racing spend the extra money and get a high RPM .21 with lots of power.
The problem with these 28's is they are fairly low RPM engines and trying to scream one around an oval will be very hard on the rod.
The Mach engine is not going to last long at all cause the rod is not double bushed but let me tell you if you get a good one they run awesome for a $150.00 engine.
The Novarossi Ws 7 II would be a good choice of the or a P-5.
These engines are more for buggies but they rev and they make great power.

My Mach has never broke after 5 gallon (best guess) of fuel ran through it. I think I have a good one. Did remove the washer at the end of the crank though. Does anyone make a "double bushed" rod?

[Challenger]

what is oval racing?

You take a track 250 yards long (more or less), add four left turns. Then fire up as many MT’s as possible, say go, then see who has the last truck running. :D Warning! If you OT MT’s, racing is racing, don’t blame the other guy for damage. Don't get :mad: . If you tangle with another MT, and do a cartwheel, you can/should expect some broken parts. We jump from time to time but enjoy OT racing with MT’s even more. To each his own…… :)

[Challenger]

MonsterBrad what do you consider low? In monster trucks you can't expect any motor to turn more than 34000 at the most. The NovaRossi .28 8port turns 42000rpm and even the 3port turns 38000. I just bought a Top .28 3port and it just plain screams. The quality is unbelievable. Got it from my local hobby shop for 225.

The Nova Rossi looks great!! Little expensive though at $329.00.
Ok, if I buy it, what can I expect?

1.) Is it a direct bolt in?
2.) Will my Mach clutch shoes and bell transfer to the Rossi?
2.) Do I need to buy another pipe an header?
3.) Any other parts I might need?

Any thoughts is appreciated. :)

[Colt M4]

You can only expect the best from NovaRossi. It is a direct bolt in. 2. yes 2. no 3. You will need a high quality airfilter. Do not get the tiger drive it will not work with the LST. There is not a huge difference between the 3port and the 8port in performance so if you are on a tight budget get the 3port it is well worth it.

[Monsterbrad]

Colt
the 8 port does not run that much better then the 3 port????

[Colt M4]

It just has more more top end. It is noticable difference but .05 hp is not that much. The 3port will pull it out of the hole but get into the mid range and above and the 8port really shines.

[Racing t]

can you fit the spin start backplate on other engine than the mach??

[Challenger]

You can only expect the best from NovaRossi. It is a direct bolt in. 2. yes 2. no 3. You will need a high quality airfilter. Do not get the tiger drive it will not work with the LST. There is not a huge difference between the 3port and the 8port in performance so if you are on a tight budget get the 3port it is well worth it.

"Do not get the tiger drive it will not work with the LST".
Ok, what is a Tiger drive?

Something else. The 8 port I am looking at does not have a pull or electric start. Or at least it appears that way from the photo. Will the Mach electric start backplate work on the 8 port or the 3 port?

[Challenger]

It just has more more top end. It is noticable difference but .05 hp is not that much. The 3port will pull it out of the hole but get into the mid range and above and the 8port really shines.

Colt, If I put the Rossi 8 port on my stock LST, what can I expect to break first? Remember I oval track.

Best guess on the weak link.

[Colt M4]

Challenger here is the part number for the 3 port top version with pull start T528XSP. The 8 port version T528XRP. Don't go by the picture. Tiger Drive is a easy start system for all the NovaRossi's. It is attached on at a 90 degree angle so you won't be able to reach it with a drill. XS stands for the 3port versions and XR stands for the 8port version just add a S or a P for the starter or pull start versions. Yes you can fit a Spin Start on a NovaRossi. First take the pull starter off the NovaRossi. You have to take the backplate off of both the mach and the NovaRossi. There will be the shaft sticking out of the backplate, pull it out. On the mach take the hex shaft that sticks out of the backplate and the circle part on the other side of the backplate that has the groves on it to spin the crankshaft. Take those parts you took off the Mach and install it on the NovaRossi. It should be a direct fit, no modifications nessecary. Install everything the way you took it apart. When you go to put the Spin Start back on the holes aren't going to line up, so on the plastic Spin Start you will have to drill new holes to attach it on. It is not a really hard modification all it requires is for you to remove some stuff and put it back together. There is a couple things that could break. The diff cases if you don't have aluminum. It might wear the plastic spur gears even quicker but I have only run it with the steel ones. Besides that stuff beware of stripping the hexes in your rims. This motor is very powerful but it isn't like stuffing a big-block into a T-MAXX so you shouldn't have any problems with breakage.

[Challenger]

Challenger here is the part number for the 3 port top version with pull start T528XSP. The 8 port version T528XRP. Don't go by the picture. Tiger Drive is a easy start system for all the NovaRossi's. It is attached on at a 90 degree angle so you won't be able to reach it with a drill. XS stands for the 3port versions and XR stands for the 8port version just add a S or a P for the starter or pull start versions. Yes you can fit a Spin Start on a NovaRossi. First take the pull starter off the NovaRossi. You have to take the backplate off of both the mach and the NovaRossi. There will be the shaft sticking out of the backplate, pull it out. On the mach take the hex shaft that sticks out of the backplate and the circle part on the other side of the backplate that has the groves on it to spin the crankshaft. Take those parts you took off the Mach and install it on the NovaRossi. It should be a direct fit, no modifications nessecary. Install everything the way you took it apart. When you go to put the Spin Start back on the holes aren't going to line up, so on the plastic Spin Start you will have to drill new holes to attach it on. It is not a really hard modification all it requires is for you to remove some stuff and put it back together. There is a couple things that could break. The diff cases if you don't have aluminum. It might wear the plastic spur gears even quicker but I have only run it with the steel ones. Besides that stuff beware of stripping the hexes in your rims. This motor is very powerful but it isn't like stuffing a big-block into a T-MAXX so you shouldn't have any problems with breakage.

Colt, nice job!! I did big block a T-MAXX and melted the tranny so I know what to expect in some cases. Thanks for your help.

[Challenger]

Challenger here is the part number for the 3 port top version with pull start T528XSP. The 8 port version T528XRP. Don't go by the picture. Tiger Drive is a easy start system for all the NovaRossi's. It is attached on at a 90 degree angle so you won't be able to reach it with a drill. XS stands for the 3port versions and XR stands for the 8port version just add a S or a P for the starter or pull start versions. Yes you can fit a Spin Start on a NovaRossi. First take the pull starter off the NovaRossi. You have to take the backplate off of both the mach and the NovaRossi. There will be the shaft sticking out of the backplate, pull it out. On the mach take the hex shaft that sticks out of the backplate and the circle part on the other side of the backplate that has the groves on it to spin the crankshaft. Take those parts you took off the Mach and install it on the NovaRossi. It should be a direct fit, no modifications nessecary. Install everything the way you took it apart. When you go to put the Spin Start back on the holes aren't going to line up, so on the plastic Spin Start you will have to drill new holes to attach it on. It is not a really hard modification all it requires is for you to remove some stuff and put it back together. There is a couple things that could break. The diff cases if you don't have aluminum. It might wear the plastic spur gears even quicker but I have only run it with the steel ones. Besides that stuff beware of stripping the hexes in your rims. This motor is very powerful but it isn't like stuffing a big-block into a T-MAXX so you shouldn't have any problems with breakage.


Colt, where is a good place to get "The 8 port version T528XRP". I have only found one souce at it cost $349.00. I don't think I want the pull start though.

[Colt M4]

The cheapest place I have found is www.speedtechnitro.com the XRP is 309.99. 349.99 seems alittle high the average price is 329.99. I bought mine from my local hobby shop, which may be the best place for you to buy it from.

[Monsterbrad]

check with Mike at Speed Zone Race way
Tell him Brad Pence sent ya
1-866-590-0763

[Racing t]

guys I need an advise on a good clutch for the lst, anyone?

[doesgo]

I really like the Mugen aluminum shoes and 1.0mm or 1.1mm springs.

[Colt M4]

Or you could get the Team Losi Aluminum ones.

[Colt M4]

On ebay there is a NovaRossi .28 3port pull start on there for 195. It is a great deal ends tomorrow. The engine usually retails for 286.

[Monsterbrad]

I was told that the 3 port is a great engine but does not make the power that the 8 port does as I would assume more ports more power!
Mugen aluminum shoes are the only ones that I have seen last.
I run Mugen composits in my LST and they are great.

[Racing t]

thanks, and what spring do you use?

[metalry101]

My favorite clutch setup has been the Mugen aluminum shoes with Ofna's copper springs. It's seen over 2.5 gallons of hard usage in the MGT and it shows no signs of giving up.

[Colt M4]

I use the Losi Aluminum with silver springs. I have Also tried Mugen composite and 1.0 springs right when I got my LST, because all the original springs broke in the first tank, and they were great put around 2.5 gallons on them and there is still probalby 2.5 or 3 or more gallons left that I could put on them.

[Colt M4]

The only difference in power between the 3port and the 8port is .05 hp which is nothing. But the 8port can turn 1700 to 2800 more rpm than the 3port depending on which model you get.

[Monsterbrad]

Well the 528 X seems to be the engine that all the racers are using.
I like more RPMS :D
I am just skeptical about spending the big bucks on the 528 to have it run no better then most engines that are out there.
Engines are hard decisions!

[Racing t]

thanks, I´ll give a try to the mugen aluminium shoes.

BTW should I hear the trasnmition on my lst shifting, like I hear it in my t-maxx? because I cant hear it, and I am concerned thinking that isnt shifting

[Racing t]

another question, whats the diference betwen using 1.0 clutch springs and 1.1?

[metalry101]

thanks, I´ll give a try to the mugen aluminium shoes.

BTW should I hear the trasnmition on my lst shifting, like I hear it in my t-maxx? because I cant hear it, and I am concerned thinking that isnt shifting
If you're concerned that it's not shifting, find a really big area and accelerate slowly. It's a lot easier to listen for the shift when the engine isn't at full song. If you're not hearing it, usually that means it's shifting fairly early, so you don't really notice it because the engine isn't really getting into the meat of the powerband, so the shift isn't as noticeable as you're used to seeing.

[doesgo]

Early on my LST shifted so early I didn't think it was shifting at all, but indeed it was. Adjusting the shift point is relatively easy, I'd suggest playing with the shift point to see what you like.

As for the 1.0 vs 1.1mm springs, the thicker springs will engage at a higher rpm resulting in a harder launch and generally stronger acceleration. It can be a bit disconcerting at first if you're not used to it, though.

[Racing t]

thanks for the replies, today I pick up a set of mugen 1.1 springs, as for the shift point I will try to do that.

[Colt M4]

Guys on LSTcentral.com have been having problems with the 1.1 springs breaking after 2 or 3 heats, which is probalbly 3 or 4 tanks.

[Monsterbrad]

the stock springs are pretty much junk.
I would say run Mugen .9 springs they work very well

[Racing t]

Guys on LSTcentral.com have been having problems with the 1.1 springs breaking after 2 or 3 heats, which is probalbly 3 or 4 tanks.

oh man, bad news for me, I already install them. but I haven run it yet. :(

BTW, yesterday I swiched to RPM arms, but now when the suspention is compressed the toe angle change, whats up with that? :confused:

[doesgo]

Don't give up on the 1.1mm springs, there are lots of people running them with good success. Maybe there was a bad batch? Doesn't make much sense to me, but it's possible.

[metalry101]

BTW, yesterday I swiched to RPM arms, but now when the suspention is compressed the toe angle change, whats up with that? :confused:
Mine don't. Maybe you worked on the steering links and put them on the bottom instead of the top? The arms shouldn't even have the ability to change the toe when they cycle I don't think.

[Colt M4]

Racing T I did the same thing when I installed the upgrade kit. I later found that I put the linkage on the wrong way, so check the tie-rods first.

[Monsterbrad]

Lets see some pics of the RPM arms
I know the LST 2'a arms are beefier then the originals.

[Ball Racing]

You haven't seen the rpm arms yet Brad?

The ones that came out almost a year ago, or are we talking a updated set?

[Monsterbrad]

I have been so into racing I am not paying much attention to the LST or its new version.
I am thinking about selling my LST for the LST 2 though :D

[Racing t]

problem solve, thanks guys.

[Monsterbrad]

anybody having any issues with the new aluminum shoes or do they hold up pretty well.

[Colt M4]

No issues with mine. They work great.

[Monsterbrad]

Thats cool
I know some of the newer aluminum shoes are kinda soft and don't last that long.
I am really jonzing for a new LST 2
:D
man this hobby drives me crazy

[losifreak2004]

Drives me crazy too...pretty cool to be addicted to it for 10 years!

[doesgo]

My Mugen #C0754 (http://www.smfstore.com/product_info.php?cPath=32_61&products_id=117) shoes are holding up great!

[Racing t]

I want to try those but for now the stock still work.

[Monsterbrad]

I have heard that Kyosho shoes are good too!
THose Mugen ones are the best.
I use them on the truggies and they are great and wear very well.
.9 or 1.0 springs and they hook up great also.

[Racing t]

if I install the mugen clucth shoes, how long they will last?

[doesgo]

Depends on way too many things to answer. Vehicle weight, gearing, clutch springs, engine, rolling resistance, driving style, track style, etc.

[Chevy-SS]

if I install the mugen clucth shoes, how long they will last?

Aluminum shoes are tough to maintain. As was stated, longevity depends on many things, but aluminum shoes often impregnate the CB with metal and ruin it. IMO, aluminum clutch shoes are too much trouble.

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[Colt M4]

The Team Losi ones are trouble free. All I have to do is once in a while sand the inside of the clutch bell and possibly the shoes alittle bit but that is like once every gallon and the shoes last 3 to 4 gallons.

[Monsterbrad]

I race aluminum shoes on my truggy all the time.
they need some dremel work after about a gallon.
Take the sharp edges off.
Another thing that I noticed about the new LST 2 set up is there are no washers behind the shoes. This is no good.
The constant rubbing of the shoes against the aluminum fly wheel causes wear and heat.
Get some small washers for behind there.
The mugen ones come with the washers that are needed.
My LST is for sale
RTR aluminum diff cases
tires are still like new
engine has maybe 2 quarts through it.
$400.00

[Ball Racing]

$100 bucks off last week :)

[Monsterbrad]

Well there are some pretty good deals out there on the new ones so I had to drop it a little.
If nobody wants it on here it will be on ebay this week.
my screen name on ebay is
triangle691

[Colt M4]

Do you have a link to it?

[metalry101]

It doesn't sound like he's listed it yet...

[metalry101]

So...looking through the last few pages...no one has pics of their rigs in here. What do you guys run? Post up some pics and list all of the goodies you've got. I'll throw up some pics of mine later this week. I don't have a digicam atm, so I'll have to grab my parent's camera from their house some time this week.

[Monsterbrad]

To be honest here
Mine is all stock with the aluminum diff cases and the aluminum wheel hexes.
I also changed the stock shoes to Mugen Composits.
Other then that and a new Body Silverado HD it's stock
My brakes are even stock
all i do is bash so its good enough
This truck is the best Monster out there in my opinion :)

[Racing t]

I won!! yesterday in the second race of the year I won! lol, finally I beat the truggys!! I am so proud of my lst and is mostly stock it only have:

Secondary gear cover
rpm a-arms
mugen clutch shoes and spings 1.1mm (like you guys told me, thanks!) ;)

[2DMaxLST]

Excellent, the LST is fun off and on the track!! :D

[doesgo]

Huge congratulations, Racing t! Gotta love the LST.

[metalry101]

Congratulations Racing t, that's awesome! Way to represent!

As for my LST...here's my list of hop-ups...for the moment :D

-Dynamite blue aluminum engine mount brace
-Dynamite blue aluminum fuel tank posts
-HPI dual stage air filter
-HPI 3 shoe aluminum clutch
-Losi high capacity fuel tank
-Losi hard anodized aluminum wheel hexes
-Losi hard anodized aluminum engine mount
-Losi hard anodized aluminum chassis plate
-Losi hard anodized aluminum center skid plate
-Losi hard anodized aluminum front and rear skid plates
-Losi hard anodized chassis top plates
-Losi hard anodized HT exhaust system
-Losi hard anodized threaded body shocks
-Losi titanium nitride coated shock shafts
-Losi titanium nitride hingepins
-Losi LST2 throttle linkage
-Losi high performance brakes
-Losi blue aluminum diff cases
-Losi foward only conversion
-Losi swaybars
-Lunsford titanium camber links
-Lunsford titanium turnbuckles
-RPM a-arms
-RPM gear cover
-Vertigo Performance Products spool

I'm sure I'm forgetting a few things here and there...but that's pretty much everything minus the engine and radio and such. I now run Spektrum with my Helios, a Picco .27 engine, and a Hitec 525BB throttle servo.

[Colt M4]

Metalry101 how much better is the HT exhaust than the old LST exhaust system?

[Monsterbrad]

I would like to take on a well set up LST with my truggy!
I love the LST but as you guys know I only bash with it :D
The main things that are needed on that list of hop ups
aluminum diff cases
New clutch shoes and springs
tires and wheels
those are the best ones !
The rest of the truck has proven it's self for me in the bashing scene :)

[Racing t]

thanks for the kind words guys.

metalry: it seems to me like a all-out racing truck you have there. but question: What do you use on the steering department? I mean, its true that I can only use one steering servo? if so, what would be the benefit. (for racing of course)

[metalry101]

Metalry101 how much better is the HT exhaust than the old LST exhaust system?
I'm not sure...I haven't had a chance to rally with it yet. Both exhausts are among the best of any RTR monster, so I don't anticipate a whole lot of difference. I think they're just tuned for different powerbands. The main reason I replaced it was for looks. I knew it wouldn't hurt performance, and the hard anodized pipe matches the rest of my truck, so it looks pretty badass.

[metalry101]

thanks for the kind words guys.

metalry: it seems to me like a all-out racing truck you have there. but question: What do you use on the steering department? I mean, its true that I can only use one steering servo? if so, what would be the benefit. (for racing of course)
It actually doesn't really see the track...I just like the way a race truck drives. I bash it, but I like to rail turns and not watch the truck cartwheel for days. If I plan on launching the thing I can always crank the pre-load spacers down to give me a bit more ride height, but for normal driver, it sits about bones level. I've tried to make it nice a durable, but still keep the weight down...it's worked well so far.

As for the steering...at the moment I'm running the stock setup. It works well, and it's hard to complain about the price. I do plan on swapping out my servos eventually...I'll probably stick with two...just not sure which two. I'm leaning towards a couple 5625's. I've been real happy with them in the past, and for the price, there's nothing better on the market IMO. A single 5645 steers my MGT, E-Maxx, and crawler, and they all work great...so a couple 5625's should swing any tire I want on the LST. As for the advantage of one servo...less weight, less current draw on the reciever and reciever pack...umm...I guess that's about it. Those things do make a difference...how much I don't know, but they do make a difference.

[Monsterbrad]

I would think about a set of Airtronics 94359Z
They are fast and have a ton of torque.
They are expensive but are well worth it
I race one in my truggy and I can't complain about it at all.
It steers great
I like fast servo's they help out a ton.
Two of these servo's would rock.
Also a little slower but more torque the 9000T from JR are good also. :D

[Racing t]

It actually doesn't really see the track...I just like the way a race truck drives. I bash it, but I like to rail turns and not watch the truck cartwheel for days. If I plan on launching the thing I can always crank the pre-load spacers down to give me a bit more ride height, but for normal driver, it sits about bones level. I've tried to make it nice a durable, but still keep the weight down...it's worked well so far.

As for the steering...at the moment I'm running the stock setup. It works well, and it's hard to complain about the price. I do plan on swapping out my servos eventually...I'll probably stick with two...just not sure which two. I'm leaning towards a couple 5625's. I've been real happy with them in the past, and for the price, there's nothing better on the market IMO. A single 5645 steers my MGT, E-Maxx, and crawler, and they all work great...so a couple 5625's should swing any tire I want on the LST. As for the advantage of one servo...less weight, less current draw on the reciever and reciever pack...umm...I guess that's about it. Those things do make a difference...how much I don't know, but they do make a difference.

Thanks a lot metalry, Sorry about these many questions but I am kinda new to the LST scene since I have it for 1 month and my LHS only knows about t-maxx and revos, but I have one more: If i decide to run one sterring servo what modifications I would need? or is fine just install one servo. last one ( I promise lol!) what would be a good servo saver for a single sttering LST?

[losifreak2004]

When Adam Drake and Travis Amezcua have raced their LST and LST2's, I'm almost positive they've only used one steering servo, be it an Airtronics 359 or one of the new mega tough JR units.

[Monsterbrad]

I would say run 2.
The truck is set up for 2 and will work better with 2.
There are a few servo's that will do the job on there own but you will sacrafice speed.
Plus you load all the torque to one side of a duall set up.
Remember these guys that are racing have unlimited parts supply!

[ron1431]

hey i was wondering for all the lst2 owners how is it doing? did the lst2 really solved all the problems the lst had? like arms breaking, diff cases breaking and motor problems? thanks

[chrisoneal]

well my lst2 motor is running good and strong. And the diffs are holding up good. Put the truck throgh some hell so far. The arms broke on my. Top right one. only b/c i crashed into my friend driving my revo and broke the revo arm to. But never cracked or broke one just jumping bashing around.

[Challenger]

Say, does anyone have any good tips on rewinding the spring and pull cord for a Mach 26?
I picked it up after taking it off an engine and it attacked me. :mad:

Any help is appreciated.

[chrisoneal]

tips buy a new one. And good luck

[Racing t]

I would say run 2.
The truck is set up for 2 and will work better with 2.
There are a few servo's that will do the job on there own but you will sacrafice speed.
Plus you load all the torque to one side of a duall set up.
Remember these guys that are racing have unlimited parts supply!

you have a point there, but if they do that they must have a reason, like steve slayen on his revo.

[zakerid]

i am guessing that HT is for High Torque?

[chrisoneal]

the resone would be to lose wieght. He's right most people on here do dont have a unlimited supply of parts. so for us it would just be best to just run of them

[Racing t]

but, do you think that running a single sterring sevo will decrease the durability of my truck?

[chrisoneal]

yes it will cause u to have less steering responce

[Platymeris]

As a new member here it's hilarious to look back at this thread from the beginning and see all the negative opinions this truck got from armchair racers/engineers. Obviously a lot of people here were scared of anything new and different, it's funny to even put this truck in the same category as T-Maxx clones, it's like nothing else on the market. All those posts about how it's poorly designed look pretty stupid now. Ironically I also read the thread for the Thunger Tiger EK-4, and that one had nothing but praise at the start, for something that's nothing more than a buggy with huge tires and a huge engine, and then little by little people realized it wasn't that great. Personally, I haven't been seriously into RC in 4 or 5 years, but seeing the LST/LST2 is one of the main things that got me interested in it again (the Revo helped too), it's not like everything else, and it's a great design that clearly had a lot of thought put into it.

[Monsterbrad]

The main thing was the problems with the older Mach's and the very first run models did not have any lock nuts on anything as far as the tie rods and all that.
But this has been fixed
This is by far my favorite of all the monsters out there and if you have been reading the posts I have had them all.
With the exception of a few :D

[losifreak2004]

It's not a matter of having an unlimited parts supply at all. Running two steering servos will drain the receiver pack faster and if you have one servo that's strong enough to get the job done, there's no reason not to give it a shot.

[losifreak2004]

It's not a matter of having an unlimited parts supply at all. Running two steering servos will drain the receiver pack faster and if you have one servo that's strong enough to get the job done, there's no reason not to give it a shot. An Airtronics 94359, a JR 8800, and many other high-torque servos will flick the front wheels of the LST2 back and forth no problem when only running one servo.

[metalry101]

hey i was wondering for all the lst2 owners how is it doing? did the lst2 really solved all the problems the lst had? like arms breaking, diff cases breaking and motor problems? thanks
Every LST2 owner I've talked to has loved their truck. I've sold quite a few of them at the shop I work at and the response has been great. One of my coworkers has one and beats the hell out of it...he's broken more in a month than I have in a year, but he still loves the truck.

[Monsterbrad]

The only thing about the 650 JR servo is it has no bearings.
I am not sure if you can take the ones out of the 590 and stick them in it I threw out my blown 590.
Figures when I should have kept it.

[losifreak2004]

metalry - That's what I like to hear!

[Monsterbrad]

The parts availability for these trucks is also good.
That helps when bashing or racing.
Nothing run's better then this truck outa the box.
Its just got so much power.

[fordracer]

monsterbrad i just looked at jr web site the 650 is a singal bearing servo and none in the 590. the 650 is the best nondigital servo jr makes.

[Monsterbrad]

Well the 590 that I smoked a few weeks ago had bearings in it.
I saw it when I tore it down to inspect the burnt up motor.
Also a note
JR servo's don't like it when you leave your reciever on by accident.
The servo's get hot and its very hard on them.
I think thats why my 590 went the last time and the fact that I saw water a few times.
Oh well it worked for a while.
There is another one in its place.
I also got the new 9000s talk about fast let me tell ya I like :)

[Colt M4]

MonsterBrad how much did you pay for the 9000?

[Monsterbrad]

114.99
www.amainhobbies.com
Thats where I got most of my stuff these days

[losifreak2004]

Leaving your car on without the transmitter is REALLY hard on digitals..make sure you have your EPA's set right too, that's hard on digital servos to strain like that.

[Colt M4]

Did you get the S version or the T?

[Monsterbrad]

S version
for the throttle
it is really fast
the t version is kinda slow but would work well for a big truck like this.
If you got 2 of them it would be crazy power on the steering you would have no problems.
I like the Airtronics 94359 I think it is better speed but a little less torque.
But 2 of them will be crazy in this truck.
I run one in my truggy and it works great

[bpg1978]

I have a question. If I leave off the gear cover(main and secondary), how much damage would occur to the titanium gears used to upgrade the stock plastic?

[Racing t]

any body knows id the losi white springs are softer or harder than the stock ones??

[Colt M4]

I am thinking about getting two T for the steering because my Local Hobby Shop is giving me a deal on them.

[chrisoneal]

I think that the white are softer. But i dont know if there the same as the lst2.

[bpg1978]

I guess no one knows....? Will the titanium gears be destroyed if I leave them exposed....like they are on an 1/8 scale buggy?

[Ball Racing]

If the clutch gears and the spur gears are both titanium they should live just as good as a buggy, yes.

[metalry101]

any body knows id the losi white springs are softer or harder than the stock ones??
They're softer. Stock silver springs are rated at 5.0 lbs. Whites are 4.0. Blacks are 6.0. Yellows are 7.4 I think.

[bpg1978]

If the clutch gears and the spur gears are both titanium they should live just as good as a buggy, yes.

Thank you man. I hope they last as well as buggies' do. They'll be exposed even more than 1/8 buggies' because there's no protection underneath. But I'll see.

[bpg1978]

Also, is it possible to convert the transmission to forward only without having to buy the FOC kit? If so how?

[fordracer]

foc is possabble with out the kit i don't have any pics to show you . i used brass bushings igot from work to take the place of the low and reverse gears.

[Monsterbrad]

Remember one thing about the titanium gears
THEY ARE COATED ALUMINUM!
so once you cut that layer you will eat them alive.
Keep the covers on they help out a ton and keep all the **** outa there.
Even if you run steell gears I have still seen a couple guys tear them up !

[Racing t]

They're softer. Stock silver springs are rated at 5.0 lbs. Whites are 4.0. Blacks are 6.0. Yellows are 7.4 I think.

thanks, whats is better for racing the lst? harder or softer?

[metalry101]

thanks, whats is better for racing the lst? harder or softer?
Depends on how you set up the truck. If you strip it and get it light enough I suppose the white springs could work, but I don't think they're intended for the LST. The stock springs barely work for hardcore use...I think the white ones are for people who buy LST shocks seperately and use them on other vehicles. If you keep it light the silver springs should work well. I use the black springs, but depending on your setup, track, and what oil you run, I could see the black springs being used too. I'd say start with the stock springs and see what you can do with it, then tune from there. Stock is probably a pretty good starting point for the track.

[Monsterbrad]

If you take some ride height out if this truck leaving the stock springs in it makes a drastic difference in the way it handles.
My buddy has been experimenting with this for a while now.
The stock springs seem to work pretty well.
Remember for racing you want it low to the ground and the suspension to work alot.
Sway bars never hurt either

[bpg1978]

Thank you for the info on the titanium gears. I'll use the covers. If anyone else comes up on some info regarding the foc conversion w/o the kit....let me know.

[Racing t]

yeah but the problem is that my lst with the stock springs now seems to be a little low in ride heigth, and it has all the plastic spacers. So I was thinking if the problem was weak springs.

[Monsterbrad]

Do you store your truck sitting on it's wheels???????
If you do that is your problem.
The springs are junk and you need an oil change!
Do that and take the stock springs off throw them out and get new ones they are not that expensive. That will bring it back to new again.
You may want to pull the suspension apart and clean all the pins and arms where they meet in the bulk heads also.
Its alot of work but will make the suspension work much better for ya.

[Ball Racing]

The titanium gear set I had was NOT aluminum...

[Racing t]

Do you store your truck sitting on it's wheels???????
If you do that is your problem.
The springs are junk and you need an oil change!
Do that and take the stock springs off throw them out and get new ones they are not that expensive. That will bring it back to new again.
You may want to pull the suspension apart and clean all the pins and arms where they meet in the bulk heads also.
Its alot of work but will make the suspension work much better for ya.

yeah I actually do that, so my springs now dosent work?

[Monsterbrad]

Get the truck in the air after use with the weight off the suspension.
Helps the springs out a ton

[Ball Racing]

Brad where did you buy "aluminum gears"that were TiNitride coated for the LST?

[Monsterbrad]

Horizon hobby has them
I run the plastic and make sure that the covers are on the gears.
have not had any issues.
The metal ones are great but they are just as liable to get torn up by rocks so the way I figure it is alot cheaper to replace the plastic ones compared to the 70$ metal ones

[Ball Racing]

It clearly states "steel" with the Ti Nitride coating.....
Stock clutch bell was aluminum, but the other option gears from Losi are steel...

[bpg1978]

The reason I "upgraded" the gears was because I stripped the plastic one twice. The engine shifted and it was a wrap. You know, with these titanium gears, I wish someone made a CLEAR gear cover so I could monitor the gears condition.

[Monsterbrad]

make sure you are using loc tite on the engine mount screws this is a must.
put paper between the gear mesh to get about .004 clearance between the gears.

[bpg1978]

Yeah, you're right. I had to clean out the old loctite so that the new would be effective.
Hey, has everyone seen Adam Drake's LST/Truggy? Looks crazy. It would be nice to have that as an available option for racing.

[Ball Racing]

I hope we all understand that the losi TiNi gears are "steel" not soft aluminum....
That can be a make or break in decisions on hop-ups, and thoughts of reliability, if you haven't got them yet...
Steel. :)

[bpg1978]

Yeah, I thought they were steel. They seem to be steel with Titanium/nitrate(is that right?) coating. Regardless, they're worth the upgrade.

[doesgo]

Nitride, not nitrate.

[Monsterbrad]

They are expensive
So buying a few sets of plastics if you are pounding the heck outa your truck and a good gear cover like the One from RPM that is out now would not be a bad choice to save some money.

[bpg1978]

Nitride, not nitrate.

My bad. Nitride. Yeah, I agree. The stock ones are cool, and cheaper. I'll see how these Titanium/nitrides hold up. Hopefully i get my money's worth. as the weather gets better, it'll see plenty of track time and testing.

[badboy2]

is this an ok engine for lst? or youd rather get collari32?
rex28 3 port engine
Displacement 4.66cc (.28ci)
Max. Power 2.80hp
RPM 32,000
Bore x Stroke 18.35mm x 17.60mm
Ports 3
Piston Type CNC Machined
Crankshaft 14mm SG Pullstart
Glow Plug Standard
Exhaust Rear
Carburetor 8 mm (Interchangeable Insert)
Carb Type Slide, Nylon

[Monsterbrad]

That is a grat engine
The only thing is you will have to get the Pull start version to make sure you can start it in this truck.
I would see about converting it to a roto start I read somewhere this can be done with a different back plate.

[Racing t]

you can use the losi spin start with other engines??

[Monsterbrad]

I am not sure about that but you can out roto start on most engine's now.
I like the Mach's spin start better then the roto start and ofna just released a roto start that I like also.
For this truck though the spin start works awesome

[Monsterbrad]

My truck sitting in winter mode
waiting for the warm weather (note the 1/8 scale foams on the roof waiting for glueing) :)

[badboy2]

i went with the collari 32 but i didnt get it yet hopefully by the end of the week.

[bpg1978]

I also have the collari 32 but have yet to break it in. Weather is about to break though. Can't wait.

[Monsterbrad]

Well I got the truck out the last few days in a row and it's running awesome!!!!!
After the 3 glow plug problem
lost 3 MC 59's in a row but it's all good now!
I did notice today that my steering servo's were lose!
They are getting fixed tonight

[chrisoneal]

Hey monsterbrad will the stock lst tires fit on the lst2 rims if not what rims will they fit on. And do u know were i can get a 14mm conversion for my lst2

[Ball Racing]

You can put the 23mm hexes off the cen truck on the LST2 then run proline 23mm rims.

[Monsterbrad]

I do believe the stock tires will fit on the new rims with the bigger hub's deal.
The LST 2 tires are kida weak looking but I have heard that they work just fine.

[badboy2]

Hey monsterbrad will the stock lst tires fit on the lst2 rims if not what rims will they fit on. And do u know were i can get a 14mm conversion for my lst2


why down grade to 14mm axles?i think ur better off with the 17mm axles..