Traxxas Revo [Archive] - Page 3 - Radio Control Zone

mustang92man

11-24-2004, 11:33 AM

Hmmmm, at the Maxy Challenge in tow weekends they don't seperate the classes......I may need to shelve the Revo and hop into a Stadium (RR or Pro) as well.....

Maybe that O.S. .18 will even things up a little? Where is it for sale at?.........Jim

I bought it at Gizmo's Hobbies in Burbank,CA. They got in a few yesterday and I just happen to be looking in the case to buy a new motor for my NTC3 and needless to say the car didn't get a new motor, but I couldn't pass up the chance with the Revo. And to answer an earlier question about the power output. It's rated by O.S. @ 1.8hp, but we all know that is a very conservative rating. It is most likely at least 2.0hp and possibly more. I just figure as much as a big block and it's power is a nice thought, I think it will throw off the balance of the truck a little too much, especially with it's short wheelbase. The .18 will be going in after I get done with this. Also Gizmo's has preordered the RD Racing starter box which are supposed to be shipped by Dec. 6th, so the pull start will be replaced with Traxxas' new 40mm flywheel and a TZ backplate will go on. I can't wait. Once the motor is broken in if I can bring myself back inside I will give a full report. I paid $219 for it which isn't too bad. I'm sure once it is more readily available it will be cheaper.

CRSMP5

11-24-2004, 12:23 PM

mb has to race against me... there was a box stock non pro version also there this past weekend in beginners hands, even with crashing every 5-10sec, he turned 10 laps on a track im turning 11-12 on and including the 1/8th scale buggy racers... there was a revo there that gave me a work out, but he has spent 7 weeks in setting it up to get to that point.. im still running stock settings except 50k center diff oil.. and different electronics and engine... its time for me to start to play with tuning it in...

bob333

11-24-2004, 12:36 PM

What kind of fuel are you running CRSMP5?

CRSMP5

11-24-2004, 06:42 PM

im runing odonnal 20%.. if traxxas did not have as much castor as it does id use it, but with the internal 1 way bearings that the castor causes to slip... blue thunder is garbage, makes those engines slip worse with NO castor also..

fezzy

11-24-2004, 08:56 PM

To hell with truggies, I crush them on a regular basis and have MUCH more fun driving my Revo than I bet they do driving there truggies (From personal experience). If you want to race competitively get a Buggy, If you want to race and have fun then get a Monster, There is no in-between IMO.

CRSMP5

11-24-2004, 10:51 PM

ive got a extreamly modded savage too.. i myself will not own a revo, dislike traxxas, yet to be impressed with any ive seen run...

fezzy

11-24-2004, 11:17 PM

Yep, This is my first Traxxas, I never thought I'd see the day that I'd get one. I have had a Dominator and a well modified Savage SS myself, I used to severely diss the T-Maxx with good reason. But after seeing the Revo, Holding one in my hands I had to have one, Its the first MT out of the lot which I've really enjoyed, I am VERY happy with it. Not only is it great for bashing, But for racing its just fantastic, Box stock its abit sloppy, But with just a few shock tuning upgrades it can keep up with 1/8 Buggys at my track, Any other MT or Truggy.

Traxxas have really changed my opinion of them round, With the T-Maxx I saw overhyped, Slow, Weak junk.. With this Revo, Which is an engineering marvel, Fantastic quality, Fantastic value for money etc etc. I am very happy.

mugenX5

11-24-2004, 11:46 PM

I second that Fezzy.

T-EVO RACER

11-25-2004, 10:48 AM

You's be dissing truggies and maxxes? oh, man, were you at fezzy I want to race your revo with my maxx. then maybe a few other truggy buggies might have to bust you up to. I don't mean literally, I just mean I want to race your revo, so you can see maxxes don't suck and truggies are fun as well. aight bizzle?

fezzy

11-25-2004, 02:47 PM

I live in the UK, So if you wanna jump on the plane I'll meet you at Manchester airport :D.

winning edge designs

11-25-2004, 09:11 PM

Well, it's cool to dig your Revo so much, I really love mine! But in reality, if your "beating up on truggies and keeping up with buggies and all other monster trucks at your track", the competiton there isn't driving as well as you.

At RC Pro the Revo dominated production class, I think it was 8 of 10 trucks and top 5 spots? But in unlimited not one Revo made the A, including the factory Traxxas drivers...........The unlimited truggies made the monster trucks look stupid, it wasn't even close. A fast lap in a Revo was a 40 flat, a fast lap in unlimited was a 36 or 37 second lap.

At Maxys Challenge they will be on the same exact track as RC Pro was on..........:), Jim

Monsterbrad

11-26-2004, 09:37 AM

Oh you guys are funny on here.
I look at it this way!!!!!!!!!
Traxxas has a great truck here way better than I ever thought they could do.
But here is the reason why I am getting rid of mine.
When racing a big block MONSTER TRUCK or truggy for that matter the REvo just lacks in power badly.
I have owned many many rc's and the big block engine is just not compared to any other engine unless you spend a crazy amount on a Small block race engine and even then they just don't have the power.
I love POWER and the revo just does not cut it. Sorry Traxxas just build a monster with a big block in it and get it over with.
If they had put this truck together with a big block and designed it around that it would be the best truck ever in my opinion.
But if you pick up the hot bodies truggy you will not believe how light it is.
Plus its built for racing straight up the revo is built for racing but needs some serious mods to get it going in the right direction.
The revo is awesome don't get me wrong but lets see some power in them and see how the stock drive train holds out.
Even with the mild small block like the TTR engine thats in the Monster GT!!!
Will the plastic stuff hold out??????

fezzy

11-26-2004, 11:08 AM

I know where your coming from regarding big block power, I myself haven't owned a small block until I got the Revo for a year or more, The last one I had was a XXX-NT, And before that I had a NMT and RS43 SS w/Novarossi CX12P. I do prefer big block engines, They are easier to tune, Last longer, Usually abit more reliable and offer alot more grunt, Especially in a MT is where that really comes to matter. But... I still can't justify replacing the 2.5R in my Revo with a big block or even the OS 18TM, Because the fact is the 2.5R in my Revo is just not slow, Its very quick with a 40t spur and the close ratio, And has as much top end as you ever need for a track.. Why would having a big block engine make that better?. I personally went from a well modified Savage SS with Sirio27 to my Revo, And I am certainly not disappointed with the power and speed. This being said though I still warm to big block engines, And if I had the money to throw at it I'd almost certainly get a conversion kit and a nice sport 21, Such as the afore mentioned TTR Pro 21, Hyper 4-Port, RB 3-Port CE or maybe even a Hyper 8-Port. Going off what people have documented on on the Traxxas boards, The Revo does seem to be able to hold up to the power, With few running Picco 26's, Which although are said to be rediculously overpowered for the Revo, They do withstand that kind of power. Obviously it is something that could only be proven over time, And by the looks of it people running Picco 26's in them don't leave them in that long because they're simply too much to control, But people running the Sport engines think they are absolute fantastic.

I wouldn't also agree that you need to spend alot of money on a Revo to make it competitive, I personally gained a huge ammount just by changing the shock oil and springs, It cost me about £7 (Around $10), The P2 Rockers are good but they didn't make as big of an improvement as the shock oil and springs change (As I am sure you can appreciate), Again the close ratio is pretty good but if I was to play with gearing I'd probably just get a $4 40t spur gear and leave the standard ratio 2-speed in, This for me is a perfectly capable setup. So for under $15 you can have a MT that can pretty much dust off any other MT on the track, In my book thats superb considering the ammount of money I had to spend on my Savage just to make the thing reliable, And it handled like poop compared to my Revo.

All said and done, I hope your happy with your Lightning, They do look like a good truck but for my personal taste I'd rather have fun driving a MT than have fun winning, But I have come from a background of racing 1/8 Buggy competitively and its something I enjoy doing as a contrast to that. Hopefully you will get what you want from your Lightning and have fun, After all thats what this game is about.

CRSMP5

11-26-2004, 11:45 AM

well i figure by feb, there will be 4 of us lsp owners that use the same track.. id almost say make all 4 same as far as engine and gearing and have some fun where its driver skill that wins... ;) funny part of that is this.. will be able to turn the same lap times the buggies turn with stock powered trucks...

Monsterbrad

11-26-2004, 01:56 PM

Hey CR hey Fez
Well said fez!!!!!!
I just can't say anything bad about the revo other than power but I am a power junky thats all there is too it.
CR that would be fun I am going to try mine with the stock engine.
We'll see what kinda laps I turn next weekend I hope .
Anybody reading this I have a race ready REVO for ya
Anybody?????????

Dan J

11-26-2004, 02:22 PM

Brad,
If only you'd listed it last week I would have taken it off your hands. Oh well.

I don't understand though, if the power is the only reason why you're leaving then why not drop in a big engine before selling it?

dan

Monsterbrad

11-26-2004, 02:40 PM

I bought the Hot bodies truck instead......
Sorry have to sell it....
anybody
814-450-6973
REVO FOR SALE
crowd pleazer body
p-2 rockers
50wt shock oil
gold rear shock springs
Silver front springs
Motor saver filter
40th spur gear
aluminum wheels hexes

gephoria

11-26-2004, 03:05 PM

hey brad,

this is scott. talked to you on the phone and thinking im going to pick this one up from you... just waiting on pics...

Monsterbrad

11-26-2004, 03:14 PM

Wish I could send them now...
Oh well hope we can make a deal.
have a good one

gephoria

11-26-2004, 04:27 PM

no big, im at work next week but i can check for them in the evenings... so if you send them durring the day and i dont respond till evening dont worry..

T-EVO RACER

11-26-2004, 10:50 PM

Yeah, I keep up with buggies to an extent, I can't make the triple at our coarse, just the double single, and on the rythm section I do a double, double they do a triple single, mail me about $1500 and I'll be there!!!lol!!!truggies, they throw up 28.5 bests while i throw up 29.5-30.0 bests. Thats with good drivers and great set ups. We haven't got many revos at crystal, just maxxes and truggies in the mt class. but thers no way any small block can beat a well driven buggy, maybe an ok driven truggy. DON'T BE LIER HERE! aaauuuchhhoooo! sorry I'm alergect to B.S. lol!

gephoria

11-27-2004, 02:04 AM

brad, ended up getting a rig today from the hobby store locally.... sorry couldn't wait to get to the track with my friends... but heres a bump for a good purchase!

4 sale by Monsterbrad!
P-2 rockers
GH Head
50wt shock oil
gold springs in the rear
stock rear springs in the Front
Opti Drive removed
Stock radio and servo's included
Motor saver air Filter
Crowd Pleazer Body that is blue and in great shape.
This truck has been raced in Ohio at the Jefferson fair grounds.
I am asking $300.00 for it.
I will take offers
814-450-6973 or
ExExCR@aol.com

Monsterbrad

11-27-2004, 12:32 PM

that cool Scott
have fun!!!!!!!
I am taking it out to the track next week then it goes on EBAY!!!

Monsterbrad

11-27-2004, 02:39 PM

Somebody buy my revo I don't want to have to list it on ebay!!!!

bob333

11-27-2004, 09:56 PM

HEy brad how is the racing in the U.K.?

Monsterbrad

11-28-2004, 02:39 PM

I am in PA and race in OH.
Racing is great up here its just a little smokey but they have big fans going and the heat is on now in the pits....
REVO FOR SALE!!!!!!!!
Somebody wants it!!!!!!!!!

bob333

11-28-2004, 07:39 PM

Just put it on ebay already

T-EVO RACER

11-28-2004, 08:43 PM

Its cool, I'll stick with my maxx.

Monsterbrad

11-28-2004, 09:42 PM

Drive a Revo then tell me you will stick with your MAxx
I am its gotta go to the track sunday first..
I can't believe the people that want these trucks...
Its cool
I will have another one eventually

T-EVO RACER

11-28-2004, 11:56 PM

Then why you getting rid of yours?

Monsterbrad

11-29-2004, 07:50 AM

Well like I have said in the past I have a SUT and HOT Bodies LSP and A LST
I can't afford all of them so one has to go.
WEll the the SUT and the Revo are going..
WHy you ask???
Well here is the thing
I love big blocks and the LSP is just a better racer and is designed to run a big block..
I am set in my ways that when you take a stock truck that is great like the revo and throw major power in it it breaks all kinds of stuff not to mention how the heavier engine will affect performance..
I am sure there are all kinds of guys that will do it but its just not me.
I see the revo as a great truck with massive potential and a basher thats just awesome but I have the LST for bashing and it goes anywhere that the Revo can go but harder and faster....

tree-unit

11-29-2004, 09:31 AM

...it's been rad, Monsterbrad. you came, conquered and bounced on through to a bigger block. :cool:

I'm hoping to get back to reading about tweeking my new truck :D ....
Does any one have any suggestions re track-suitable rubbers besides the option of Bow-tie 40's (which seemed to run well on the SUT here)? Local track is clay- very hard and dusty on hot day and develops pits esp at well used sections - corners etc. Think pounding AFRICAN SUN here - hot and dry. Wetting the track down lasts like 3mins into race time.
Seemingly poor traction with the stock tyres (tho' more experience on this surface would help too) :(
Truck did many donuts when coming out of hairpins and pouring on the power... = loss of rear wheel traction??
Was told about "Panthers" although not been able to find any references to these.
First truck, just run in, set as:
- stock shock oil
- green springs to front
- silver at rear
- lowered roll center rear
- dropped truck low front and rear
I love working on this thing - awesome construction, really enjoying the revo! ...but can see the plastic is taking a pounding.

bob333

11-29-2004, 10:03 PM

You should go with bowties

winning edge designs

11-30-2004, 07:21 AM

So far, imo, the PRoline rubber is really good on low traction, sandy stuff. For slightly damp, better, traction conditions, almost any tire seems decent, maybe because there is so much rubber on the track? I have heard ggod reviews of the HPI dort bones as well as Panthers, but i'm guessing that's a decent low sand surface?......Jim

T-EVO RACER

11-30-2004, 04:58 PM

bow ties baby!!!! they work better than the stock revo tires fo' sho'!!

CRSMP5

11-30-2004, 08:34 PM

the new panther tires look sweet for revo rims.. yep bowties work great on loose stuff, but on hard clay, not so good

Monsterbrad

11-30-2004, 11:04 PM

I have heard that the new panther tires are awesome too....
Komoto Dragons are cool I have a set on the way with imex rims with the offset.....

winning edge designs

12-01-2004, 07:15 AM

I'm not too crazy about most of thier stuff, it usually looks like a clone of somebody elses work, but not always....But I have had limited success with thier K2 in buggy and thier new truck tires, although controversial do look like they work well as long as the track is smooth........There aren't really alot of choices for MT racing tires out other then Proline and Panther I guess? The New TeamLosi monster truck tires come in thier red rubber, which is awesome, and they also work very well, but they don't look quite so "racey".......Jim

T-EVO RACER

12-01-2004, 09:24 PM

The traxxas sporttraxxes, they aren't great, but their racing tires.

bob333

12-02-2004, 08:07 PM

Ive heard some bad reviews about proline rims are they really that bad?

T-EVO RACER

12-02-2004, 08:46 PM

Not really, I use hpi Q6's though.

bob333

12-02-2004, 08:53 PM

How much are they? And do they work well

thedarkness

12-02-2004, 10:37 PM

the best racing tire choice for the revo is probably the panther python it fits the stock revo wheels without any mods.

tree-unit

12-03-2004, 02:44 AM

yeah, but the stock tyres are pre-glued. I want a spare set of wheels to "quick-change" for track conditions vs general thrashing about. Thus, looking for ideal rim and wheel combo. Besides, the chrome plate is peeling off the rims in large chunks through track frenzy (heh)...

bob333

12-04-2004, 04:09 PM

what would be the best wheel and tire combo for bashing?

winning edge designs

12-04-2004, 08:26 PM

The most durable wheel available will be the Proline 23mm hex wheels coming out in a week or so. They have a 23mm hex adapter kit for just about every popular monster truck and with those wheels they have about 5 times the strength, even more so then a 1/8th buggy wheel does!

For tires, it's a toss up. If you'll race and bash the Bowties are the best "real" monster truck tires. The tiny little panther make believe truck tires are not in the true monster truck class in my opinion and would be terrible for bashing, since they have no absorbtion capability in rough terrain. Traxxas tires and wheels come premounted if you would like them that way and are great for racing And bashing.................It all depends more on your surface, but not having to glue the tires up is a real plus!.....Jim

bob333

12-05-2004, 02:50 PM

Thanks

mugenX5

12-05-2004, 07:06 PM

Personally, I don't think the Bowtie is a good bashing tire. It offers excellent traction on tracks, but for bashing ( grass,dirt,tar,gravel,etc........) life expectancy would be brief. I have Bowties and after running only a couple times on tar, the middle of the tire is missing tread( a Rex P5 didn't help matters).

I'd stick with something that has a deeper tread. Though traction may suffer on certain surfaces, they'd last alot longer.

T-EVO RACER

12-08-2004, 09:11 PM

q6's are 11 bucks I think. They are really good wheels!! maxx mashers are good bash tires!, or dirt hawgs!

winning edge designs

12-09-2004, 07:35 AM

I put my Revo up on E bay, as well as all my spares.....too many toys, :). They did put my truck up on the Traxxas site though in review of the RC Pro race!.....Jim

T-EVO RACER

12-11-2004, 08:45 PM

your getting rid of your revo, that sucks!

Strike 4

12-12-2004, 05:51 PM

I am getting into MT's and am trying to decide between a Maxx and Revo, I am mostly deciding on durability which one do you think is more durable?

T-EVO RACER

12-12-2004, 06:05 PM

do you want to race or bash???

chevy_94

12-12-2004, 06:23 PM

posted by strike 4.....I am getting into MT's and am trying to decide between a Maxx and Revo, I am mostly deciding on durability which one do you think is more durable?

there is a guy around here that bought a revo brand new and put a failsafe on it. and he jumped it off a 35 ft. jump and busted only one shock. that was on the left front..... sorry don't know how to get the lil blue box yo come up with the original post. vids at trilordy.com gotta look hard cause they don't say its a maxx or a revo they run alot of different stuff. they told me they should have the vid of that revo jumpin off that building like 2 weeks ago. but its not up yet. but that revo looks pretty darn tough. i have a maxx and i love it.

tekrsq

12-12-2004, 08:28 PM

I am getting into MT's and am trying to decide between a Maxx and Revo, I am mostly deciding on durability which one do you think is more durable?

Personally, I think the Revo is FAR more durable than the Maxx. However, if you run anything in a brick wall or jump it off a house, something WILL break.

fezzy

12-12-2004, 08:34 PM

Revo is definetely more durable, I've seen Revos go through much more pain and come out the other side, The Maxx however is a different story.

winning edge designs

12-12-2004, 09:56 PM

Wow, Ebay cancelled my Revo auction because it said "not savage or LST"....Just had to relist it without that in the title........I think 98% of the auctions have that in them, haha. They didn't like my J Concepts dot net link either. I guess money is tight for them so they need to make every dime they can? Sheesh.LOL.

I like the Revo alot, but I don't have room for all these cars and trucks, since I get help from TeamLosi i'm going to try and stick with thier stuff..and an 1/8th scale, :)......Jim

chevy_94

12-13-2004, 02:28 AM

i would go for the Revo strike 4 seen a guy the other day roll the revo down a hill like 30 times and not a thing broke and it was all stock.

BlueBeast8-Port

12-13-2004, 06:56 AM

Hello, i am looking into getting a revo and get it ready for next racing season. I am not a fan of the 2.5 engine. I had a lot of trouble with it in my maxx. What is the fastest drop in motor for this in reason. Im talking not a $300 motor. $200 ish is a good range to stay in. Whats the fastest for that range and what all do i need to upgrade. I know traxxas all has plastic drivetrain and plastic driveshafts. I would plan on getting some CVDs and diffs. Whats are some options for those with upgraded motor. Thanks

thedarkness

12-13-2004, 11:32 AM

^^^ by the sounds of your discription you want the OS.18tm.It costs about $210 and is the most power you can drop in currently.(without mods)

fezzy

12-13-2004, 02:10 PM

The OS18TM is the easiest motor to install, Because it was designed to fit, However it isn't cheap and many decide to save money and go big block, But if your not bothered and want to stick smallblock then the OS18TM at this time, Is the only one available. As for the plastic driveshafts and stuff, I really wouldn't replace them, They are lighter than steel driveshafts and pretty much as strong as them given the design, They are an incredibly durable part of the truck. I also rebuilt my front and rear diffs yesterday, They are quite a departure from the T-Maxx diffs, They are good high precision units and the steel feels very tough and strong, Up to now the only diff failures I have read about have been on those with faulty batches of diff gears, They even seem to be holding up to big blocks. The only thing I didn't like about the diffs is the dodgey seals, The X-Rings are quite soft and I think an O-Ring will be more durable, Also the seal for the diff housing is a little more complicated than it needs to be, Making it abit weak (One of mine was torn a little). Of course this something you can't really moan about being such in-expensive parts anyway.

BlueBeast8-Port

12-13-2004, 06:24 PM

hello ok ,well ill prolly jsut go big block than, thanks wasp .26 sounds good, its whats i nmy savage

fezzy

12-13-2004, 07:15 PM

The only thing with a bigblock is matching the right engine to the Revo chassis, The Revo is a 1/10 Truck and therefore is very light, So for me personally, I wouldn't go fora Picco26 if I was racing, Which I do. I'm actually thinking of going big block myself, I am thinking about going with a Thunder Tiger Pro21 as used in the MGT/Schumacher cars and pretty much every other TTR Vehicle. If your happy with the ammount of power the Picco26 will put out, And your a good enough driver to control the power, Go for it.

Strike 4

12-14-2004, 07:15 PM

Cool I am stuck on the Revo now. Are there any vids that show a Revo with a OS 18TM in it?

winning edge designs

12-14-2004, 08:21 PM

I'd stay with the O.S. .18, tons of power, yet driveable. The big blocks always have proven to be too much, in my past experience. I had "only" an O.S. .21 RG in my T-maxx and every time I landed a jump I had to be carefull not to bring on the power to quick or it would flip over backwards, no kidding. Fun on the street, but not the hotr racing ticket.........Jim

T-EVO RACER

12-15-2004, 11:41 PM

whats the name of that new os.18 coming out???

winning edge designs

12-16-2004, 07:37 AM

I forget the exact number, but it's called something like 0.S. .18TM, or XM, with Revo manifold...........Check towers site, they have it listed.......Jim

fezzy

12-16-2004, 08:56 AM

OS18TM 'Revo' (http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXHLV8&P=7)

Monsterbrad

12-18-2004, 05:14 PM

Well after almost 2 gallons through the stock engine I am going to keep going but the stocker will need replacing soon..
I am still debating the big block thing....
I do like the .18 but I have heard bad things about them.
BUt OS does make an excellent .15 engine...
Lets here somebody that has the .18 and a .21 in it and compare...
I just think that big block's are for big block trucks....
This is a small block truck and I would hate to take away the reliability...

mustang92man

12-18-2004, 07:00 PM

I have the .18TM in my Revo and it is just awesome. Almost too much power, at least for smaller tracks. I have Hot Rod Hobbies where I will be racing it mostly, but also have Sun Valley which is more of an 1/8 scale track and think unless it's geared properly it may fall just short of the big block conversions. But can pretty much guarentee that once you get into the technical sections the balance of the small block in this truck will shine. I think the big blocks are just going to throw the balance of the truck off too much. The wheelbase is too short to deal with that kind of power and you'll have trouble keeping the front wheels on the ground which doesn't do you any good when you want or need to turn. As it is on high bite situations the O.S. will pull the wheels on demand. I highly recommend it!! You won't regret it.

fezzy

12-19-2004, 11:36 AM

Got to see one of these Lightning ST's in action today, Both a RTR and a Pro spec, I can't say as I am particularly impressed.. Kit tyres are rubbish and the engine is absolute garbage, It makes decent power but no top end at all, And both engines provided to run erraticly and hot, Not what I'd come to expect from the Pro kit and the price tag that comes with it. The truck itself is nice, Its good quality and its nicely designed, But lets not beat around the bush, Its more or less a buggy, But although this gives you great Centre of Gravity, It was never designed to be so long or wide, And consequently it has quite poor steering in my opinion, The Revo's where pulling on the straight with ease (Stock engines) and diving in hard, Tight and fast where the Lighting ST could not.

JMO.

Monsterbrad

12-19-2004, 02:03 PM

Well I have both trucks and I can say that I like them both....
You have to remember that the LSP is a big block truggy and the Revo is a 1/10 scale moster truck...
There is a huge diff between them....
You have to see the LSP with a better engine in it...
But the Revo is a great truck and I have decided to keep mine cause of the reliability, and the technology is just awesome.....

CRSMP5

12-19-2004, 02:41 PM

yep its a truggy.. and do not cut the tires short.. get on a clay track.. on that kind of track those tires rule.. the tires will roll over in teh corner cause they have so much traction.. even bowties with stock foams do not..

the pro kit really needs no engine/electronics like all the other pro kits they make...

fezzy

12-19-2004, 02:46 PM

The Lightning would clear the table top better, Without doubt.. Over the double and tabletop is pretty much the only place it was gaining though. I dare say it would be great with a better engine, But it costs enough for the Pro without having to replace the engine too.

winning edge designs

12-19-2004, 07:46 PM

The main benifits of the HB LSP aren't to compete with a mostly all plastic monster truck with a .15, but to give an option to those who have been spending $1-2K on conversions. I purchased my truck, stripped out the stock engine, radio pipe and body and listed them on E bay. I sold most of the items for about $160.00, this left my cost of the truck at about $370!

I already had an engine, one in fact that I listed on E bay for $139.00 starting bid, which never got a bid, so I installed it in the truck and got second at the Maxys Challenge race with the combination .

My Revo is ending tonight on E bay, since after running both trucks it didn't even seem close enough to consider keeping the Revo. I do think on some really small tracks I might have to work to negotiate the tightest turns, but most of the gas tracks are big enough that the LSP would crush the Revo.

At Boggy creek my best lap with my Revo was a 39.95 second lap, my best with the HB LSP was a 34.2!...................Jim

Sgt Blamo

12-19-2004, 08:58 PM

Phsychoman,
The below summary is based upon my actual experience and is a statement of what I observed, I'm not attempting to bash any other brand. I have examined several different trucks and decided upon conclusion of same to purchase two Revo's for my son and I.
We just got back from running the following : Two Traxxas Revo's, an HPI Savage and a Losi LST.Here is a brief synopsis of how the vehicles performed, from start to finish.
Starting:
The Revo's started almost effortlessly, with their EZ start system and ran great. The Savage and LST both took several attempts to start and then stalled quite often until they were warmed up, once they warmed up they ran decent (to be fair, the Savage may have been having trouble w/ the glow-plug).
Driving:
We ran the two Revo's for a good 25 minutes before a brief re-fueling, which took about 45 seconds. Keep in mind, we ran these trucks, "Balls to the wall" the whole time, with no break between tanks.
They flat out screamed! We decided to move to a different location, one with a rather large pile -o-dirt. We basically assaulted that pile for the next 45 minutes with no mercy shown to either the pile or the trucks. We tumbled the Revo's end over end, sideways, backwards, etc. Several times I expected something would surely break, but not so! These trucks Hi-tech suspension work better than advertised! They launched repeatedly from all sorts of off-camber positions, and yet landed rubber side down!

We then decided to fire up the LST, which as I said, took some time to get going. Once it was warmed up, it really had some balls! you could definitely distinguish between the big block and small block as to torque and sound. The LST had great power and climbed our 8 ft dirt pile with ease. It jumped very level and landed just as well, until the second landing. It landed in a soft dirt rut and instantly snapped a front a-arm.
The same a-arm had been replaced just days before! That ended the LST's activity.

Next up was the Savage, it too was a pain to start compared to the Revo's. An E-Z start is definitely worth having! It sounded pretty good, but never really got very far. I suspect that it may have had a bad glow-plug (this truck was purchased used, so it isn't a fair evaluation of it's potential, please keep that in mind) .

Conclusion:
Initially, I was a little hesitant to purchase a traxxas product, but upon examination of it's suspension, drivetrain and chassis in comparison to others, I decided to purchase two. I've heard all sorts of trashing of the Revo, from it's being made by Traxxas, to it's composite driveline, however, none of these arguments have born any weight whatsoever. It is built incredibly tough and has an excellent power to weight ratio, with plenty of power on tap, right out of the box. It handled several weeks of hardcore thrashing with only a scratched up body to date!!

I cannot however say the same for the Losi LST, as it needs a lot of R&D still! The poor guy who bought it has only owned it for three weeks and has constantly had to work on it to keep it running, not counting replacing broken a-arms, etc(the LST was purchased NIB). He has since purchased a Revo and loves it. A real shame considering the LST came from Losi which normally produces excellent cars and trucks.
The Savage should be an excellent truck, but will never be able to keep up with the Revo in the extreme terrain, even with a BB ! E-Z start is the only way to go for rec driving, it was great not having to attempt to warm a glow plug while cranking a motor.

Monsterbrad

12-19-2004, 10:43 PM

Well I am going to have to agree...
I have decided that I am going to keep myu revo...
I have to say that in a bashing session the revo always stayed running even when I pounded the crap outa it...
It is in deed a great truck and should not be looked over...
Yeah its under powered a little but its super reliable and thats what we are all lookin at go have fun come back with no broken parts..
2.5 gallons through the stock .15 engine and still rips nicely for a small block...
Yeah I have the LST and a LSP and the SUT which i am trying to sell...
I always take the revo with me and its seems to be the surviving truck at the end of the day...
For bashing they are AWESOME thats for sure..
racing yeah they are great but the LSP is better
but then again its a bb truggy!!!!

winning edge designs

12-19-2004, 11:31 PM

The Traxxas Revo is definately a great truck, EASILY the best in it's class! Problem is for me, it's the only one in it's class, other then the T maxx. And a few races i've attended don't seperate the classes yet. So, although the Revo has proven a good truck after I went thru and fixed the problems I had, it well be outgunned at all but the smallest tracks.

I have owned about 8 different brands of monster trucks, NONE have been without bugs to work out. My Revo broke an axle yoke on each of it's first two practice tanks. Then it broke a shock end on the next two tanks......4 broken parts in 4 tanks. The Traxxas people were excellent as usual though and informed me of updated shock ends and axle yokes, TADA!!! With some of those parts and Racers Edge aluminum shock ends Now it is performing flawlessly!

I have seen an LST break an A-arm, but only in hard crashes, it has proven fairly reliable locally, for a 13lb truck with the most included power of any RTR monster truck!...and the best radio.

I think they are all good for thier intended purpose, but it's still as, usuall more about preference for everyone more then anything..........none are "perfect" or "best" for every situation......Jim

InsaneIndustrie

12-20-2004, 05:37 AM

Hey guys this is a great thread, i have read every single page in the last couple of days and have found all the arguments to be a huge help in my decision making process. Here in Australia the Revo has only been available for a few weeks, and sells for about $1150 to $1300 AU .... thats if you can manage to find one. So anyways, the other day I went down to my lhs to see how much they were selling them for and the guy behind the counter just replies "why would you want one of those ... we dont stock s#!t products here, only stuff thats not gona break - not because it's new and every one wants one". After recovering from this verbal slap-in-da-face I want to know how your Revos are coping ... is this guy a tool or what???

winning edge designs

12-20-2004, 07:24 AM

The guy is a tool, the Revo is a great truck. Just be aware of the improved parts(shock ends and axle yokes) and be sure you'll be able to get those as well......Jim

fezzy

12-20-2004, 12:56 PM

He sounds like an idiot, I am not suprised if his ignorance loses him custom. If there is another LHS in the area where a sane person works, Go see him instead!. My Revo has been fantastic, Its provided to be VERY durable indeed, They really take a hammering. The 2.5R is quick and fast for a truck of the Revo's weight, Making its a great combo. It can be a little tricky to tune but if you stick to the manual you can't go far wrong. Its by far the best MT I've had or used after owning and operating pretty much all of them. Its a great truck, I can gaurentee that you will think so too.

fezzy

12-21-2004, 10:01 AM

Thought this thread needed some new pictures :D

Hop-Up List:
American CNC Machining Revo Cooling Head
Traxxas Forward Only Conversion
50wt Shock Oil w/Green & Tan Springs
Traxxas 2.5 Pullstart
P2 Rockers
Close Ratio 2-Speed
40t Spur Gear
Hitec Aggressor 3ch FM Radio
Hitec HS5925/HS5945 Servos
OFNA/Fastrax Micro Failsafe

http://www.ashtuk.dsl.pipex.com/images/39.jpg
http://www.ashtuk.dsl.pipex.com/images/40.jpg
http://www.ashtuk.dsl.pipex.com/images/41.jpg
http://www.ashtuk.dsl.pipex.com/images/42.jpg
http://www.ashtuk.dsl.pipex.com/images/43.jpg

Sgt Blamo

12-21-2004, 08:42 PM

You forgot one thing, A "Motor saver" airfilter.

fezzy

12-21-2004, 10:16 PM

In my time owning nitro RC's I have yet to notice an airfilter make a difference in terms of performance, Which is why I have not fitted one to my Revo. And as I do not have alot of money at the momment, Its the last thing on my list.

fezzy

12-21-2004, 10:47 PM

Based on your reply I have decided to do a little experiment, I have fabricated one of my buggy filters using an old savage air filter elbow to my Revo, I've had to chuck a ziptie round the engine to hold the air filter elbow back to clear the spur, But its only temporary. I will note my findings in performance if any.

http://www.steel-dragon.co.uk/ash/filter.jpg

Sgt Blamo

12-21-2004, 10:51 PM

Well, I haven't run mine yet, however, EVERY vehicle I've driven has had an A/M airfilter of the "K&N"type installed and it has made a noticable differance. From my Honda Pilot 410cc, to my 99 Super Duty 7.4 TD (an AFE filter dropped my temps 150 degrees!). So I believe that the same principle would apply here. I'll let you know as I have two to install.

winning edge designs

12-21-2004, 11:08 PM

Be careful with some "racing" type filters in fullscale vehicles. Alot of them offer more airflow for more power, but only because they filter less of the air.

There are instances when an air filter will add power, but usually it's the chambers and tunnels and baffles that rob power in fullsize cars and trucks, not the filter itself.

In R/C if the filter already allows all the air the engine needs in, a different filter won't help. I like the filters that come with the O.S. engines, which seem similar to what Traxxas has done with the Revo. Our little Revo engines air filters would be like having a 3 foot diameter air filter on a fullsize engine!..........There is always the bling factor, since every part I've spent $20 on seemed to make my cars faster, :).........Jim

fezzy

12-22-2004, 09:38 AM

Yep, I am in full agreement with Jim, But after I took the stock filter off and then compared the airflow by blowing through to my 2-Stage 1/8 Buggy Filter, It was quite a difference.. So I thought what they hey, Gotta be worth a try.

fezzy

12-22-2004, 03:08 PM

I've trimmed the stock airfilter elbow and fitted my 1/8 Filter permanently, Fitment seems great and I'll see what its like performance wise. I updated the pic on the previous page with a picture of the current setup.

Sgt Blamo

12-22-2004, 07:53 PM

Looks cool, let us know how it works.

winning edge designs

12-22-2004, 10:47 PM

It never hurts to experiment, I find that sometimes it's really hard to be objective and open minded about the results though?....I mean, every time I spend a bucket of money at the hobby shop whatever I just bought becomes the best ever, LOL......Jim

Dan J

12-22-2004, 11:30 PM

I like the stock filter, but it does have flaws. It should not face forward because it loads up with dirt and debris pretty quick around here. The MS filter is nice because it adds so much more filtering area. When clean they probably flow very similarly. However, once they've been in the dirt for a while, the stock filter clogs quick while the MS stays free flowing.

dan

fezzy

12-23-2004, 07:52 AM

I have no doubt that the MS Filter will allow the engine to breathe better, The stock filter takes air in from the front only, Where as the MS Filter takes in air from the front and the side all the way round. The only question is how much difference will be able to be noticed. Having an airfilter that has a more free flow should allow the engine to breathe better and become more responsive, But in my experience I've never found a restriction on any airfilter, The engine only draw's in as much air as it needs and despite how much it draw's in you can lean/richen the mixture to compensate. Never the less though, I think the Revo filter is one of the most restrictive I have come across, Just because it only draws air in from the front.

t9dragon

12-23-2004, 06:46 PM

I finally got my Revo today, but the wife is making me wait til Christmas to open it. At least it is only a day away.

tekrsq

12-23-2004, 08:30 PM

I finally got my Revo today, but the wife is making me wait til Christmas to open it. At least it is only a day away.

LOL :D

A friend's wife bought both him and their son revos for Christmas. He officially doesn't know what's behind the wrapping paper, but he's got a pretty good idea. It's all he's been talking about since I got mine. Anyway, the anticipation is KILLING him. He's acting like 10 year old :D

fezzy

12-23-2004, 08:33 PM

It'd be like all my Christmas's at once if I found a 2nd Revo under the tree, Alas this is not the case.. But I will settle for some stuff for my first one instead :D. Hope you all have a Merry Christmas, More so to those just opening there Revo's for the first time come Christmas morning.

winning edge designs

12-23-2004, 08:44 PM

I don't think the air filter on the Revo is going to prove to be that bad, but like I posted above some will swear it is i'm sure.

My thinking is based on the fact that all the high end O.S. engines come with the same "style" of open end air filters, also the Kyosho cars always come with an air filter then when completely assembled(with plastic cover) actually shrouds the filter from moisture and dirt with an even smaller opening, like this (0), with the center being blocked off, leaving about a 1/4 inch circular opening gap..........We tried it with and without the cover and didn't even need to reset the carb.............just been my experience.

Merry Christmas everyone!... Jim

fezzy

12-23-2004, 09:06 PM

Well regardless of performance, A larger 2-Stage offers much greater filtration and less maintainence is required. Foams can be replaced much easier and cost effectively also, As for me at least they are readily available.

winning edge designs

12-23-2004, 10:25 PM

Now we're talking, more surface area equals less maintenace, since it will take longer to be restricted from dirt! Once the filter can't flow as much air as the .180(or so) carb opening does, then we'll feel a power and fuel economy difference.......:), Jim

rpmmaxxed

12-24-2004, 01:12 AM

Can someone tell me the dimensions of the Revo's Box?

Sgt Blamo

12-24-2004, 09:43 AM

You guys have a Merry Christmas!!

fezzy

12-24-2004, 11:34 AM

Dimensions for the box are: 275mm Wide x 530mm Long x 410mm Tall. I hope your not going to be measuring something under the tree ;)

t9dragon

12-24-2004, 12:34 PM

What size battery and connectors are used in the easy start?

fezzy

12-24-2004, 04:29 PM

Any regular 7.2v Nicad stick pack with a female Tamiya connector.. Such as:
http://www.blimpguys.com/partlistimages/partlist18.JPG

rpmmaxxed

12-25-2004, 12:18 AM

you know me too well fezzy :)

t9dragon

12-25-2004, 01:01 AM

Thanks, all the batteries I use have dean plugs on them.

fezzy

12-25-2004, 05:09 AM

Cool, You'll have to make an adapter lead then or buy another couple of new ones.

t9dragon

12-26-2004, 02:55 AM

Here are some pics. The first pic is of my T-Maxx, Revo, E-Maxx, Tamiya Falcon, Mini-T (I have 3), XXX-BK Buggy, HPI Nitro Mini, MR4-TC (not pictured)
http://a6.cpimg.com/image/E4/9C/43494116-decb-02000180-BBB.jpg

http://a5.cpimg.com/image/33/9E/43494195-4a43-01800200-BBB.jpg

HKmaxx

12-27-2004, 11:25 PM

Thanks, all the batteries I use have dean plugs on them.

t9dragon
you can mod the EZ start battery box to take deans plugs click here (http://www.maxxpitstop.com/tech.php?aid=3067)

JOK3R

12-28-2004, 09:03 AM

Heres my new skid plates. They are made by golden horizon from a solid block of 7075 aluminum. They are fully cnc machined and they look just killer. These will hold up real good on my racing revo. I have removed both my front and rear bumpers and now I can have some solid protection from crashes or bumps.

http://www3.telus.net/chopshop/images/ghparts%20004.jpg

you can get the parts from
tower, horizon and stormer online.

thedarkness

12-28-2004, 12:09 PM

fezzy

12-28-2004, 12:49 PM

Those are some nice skids, I am still using stock right now and have a spare two-piece front skid sitting in my box, The front one looks pretty beat but its holding together so thats all that matters. I am hopeing RPM come out with some shortly, And I'll get some of those :).

Raster

12-30-2004, 11:17 PM

How is the Revo holding up, so far? In racing AND in BASHING? Is it tougher than the T-Maxx? A couple of LHS's here have told me there have been problems with them. Something with the suspension. I just got a T-Maxx - should I wait a while to get a Revo until they get the bugs worked out?

Thanks for any help,
Ras.

JOK3R

12-31-2004, 02:15 AM

Hey JOK3R are gh parts any cheaper in the lower mainland?(because thats where golden horizons is)My LHS here in alberta want an arm and a leg for any gh part.since your from canada i have to ask.Are you going to go to winter nationals? I know reddeer is quite a drive from vancouver,I talked to a few guys on rctech.net from vancouver that are going.
How do all those gh parts look on your truck?
you wouldnt happen to know someone who posts on another board as wintermute or flatline would you?

Yes Darkness, I do know Wintermute and Flatline. We were at the red deer final this year. I was the one leading the Monster Truck final with my Baby Blue H2 LST. You can see my truck soaring over the sky on www.speedybones.com . I would love to go out to the winter nationals but we will have to see. The highway there will be pretty snowed in so I am not sure.

I can talk to the guys at GH and see if they can ship stuff out to you and see what kind of prices they have for the parts. If I do make the race I might take a bunch of their parts up to the race.

Heres what the skids look like on my Revo.

http://www3.telus.net/chopshop/images/jokerbody%20026.jpg

I have more pictures on my site too if you wanna check it out. I will be posting all their parts as I get the time to take pics of them.

My Revo Site (http://www3.telus.net/chopshop)

thedarkness

12-31-2004, 02:56 AM

Those skids look great.The charger body is awsome too(I seen it on the traxxas forum-im haulinpast there).Im interested in those skids, If you have the time check what gh would want for them?If you make it to the race ill be the easy one to spot out ill be the one running 10-20 seconds slower a lap haha.

winning edge designs

12-31-2004, 10:10 AM

eeewwwww, you need to clean that puppy up before bolting on the sweet new stuff!............haha, Jim

fezzy

12-31-2004, 03:24 PM

The Revo is alot tougher than the T-Maxx, And it has had some first batch issues but pretty much everything is resolved, And if you do have problems you must already be aware of the excellent customer services available at Traxxas.

revocrazykid14

01-06-2005, 10:21 PM

i have seen alot of pics with REVO's with buggy wings on tha back n i wanted to put one on but i dunt know how n where to put it if anyobdy can giv me some info i would appeciate it n thanx!!!

t9dragon

01-07-2005, 12:34 AM

Here is a link to installing the wing on you Revo.

http://monster.traxxas.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=253515&perpage=40&pagenumber=1

revocrazykid14

01-07-2005, 07:26 AM

Here is a link to installing the wing on you Revo.

http://monster.traxxas.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=253515&perpage=40&pagenumber=1

ok thanx :) :)

oachalon

01-08-2005, 04:57 PM

Does anyone know a place that has the os 18tm in stock for the revo. Ebay doesnt have any right now and i really dont want to buy from ebay anyway.

winning edge designs

01-08-2005, 07:44 PM

They did have them at Tower Hobbies a week ago...Which isn't unusual, since they are the exclusive O.S. importer..........You can also try www.superiorhobbies.com

......Jim

oachalon

01-08-2005, 09:13 PM

i didnt see anywhere on superior hobbies that said they had them.

winning edge designs

01-08-2005, 10:52 PM

Try calling them on monday after 10am eastern U.S. time at 407-834-9299. They usually have everything available in stock, well over a million dollars in inventory...........Jim

mustang92man

01-09-2005, 10:46 PM

I was just at Ultimate Hobbies and they had some yesterday. As well as try Gizmos Hobbies, that's where I got mine. Both the same price at $219.

oachalon

01-10-2005, 07:34 PM

i just went to the hobbytown by me and they had one so i bought it. Its all in and if the weather is alright tomorrow i will break it in. How did you guys break it in. Just do short bursts of quarter throttle or something. Basically just try and keep the temps around 200 right.

dtbb825

01-10-2005, 09:42 PM

hey i have a question. inew to to the hobbie an wanted to no which is better the savage 25 or the revo?

fezzy

01-10-2005, 09:58 PM

The Revo certainly comes with more informative material for newcomers, Traxxas also have the best customer support in the business. Overall though, The Revo is as fast as a Savage, Handles better, It isn't quite as strong (But a Savage is incredibly tough), The Revo is a heck of alot easier to work on also, After owning a Savage I feel I can say that it was a nightmare.

So for me, I'd get the Revo everytime what ever level your at in this hobby :).

JOK3R

01-11-2005, 03:23 AM

Heres my revo done up in golden horizon aluminum parts, still got more to come

http://www3.telus.net/chopshop/ghparts%20024.jpg

http://www3.telus.net/chopshop/ghparts%20038.jpg

http://www3.telus.net/chopshop/ghparts%20036.jpg

There are quite a few more pictures as well posted on my site

JOKERacing.com (http://www.jokeracing.com)

oachalon

01-11-2005, 04:48 PM

Nice looking revo. I am not an aluminum kinda person though for these trucks i like to keep it light. Well my tm is broken in and that motor is nuts. I dont see how any one would or need more power than that. I gotta tap the gas so the front end doesnt come up.

horsman_f3

01-11-2005, 05:37 PM

Hey, I know I have posted pics before, But I finally have my Revo ready for this summers Racing. I have done a few things to my Revo, Forward only gears, Different Clutch Bell and Main gear, MIP Shock bodies, MIP gold shock shafts, Lundsford Titanium pushrods, tierods, hinge pins. Also put in a JR XS3 Radio with a JR XS310 receiver. Went to a single Air Tronics High Tourque steering servo. Moved my throttle servo to the open steering servo slot. I put in a O.S. 18TM Engine with a Tiger Drive starter. MIP CVD's, Pro-Line 40 series Bowties and rims. My truck went from 9.4 LBS to under 8.5. I shaved the bumpers, Shock mounts on the rear swing arms. Eliminated the throttle servo box. I am running the Progressive two suspension, with the gold dot and Orange dot springs. The body is a Pro-Line Crowd Pleazer.

I have to say this truck is fast, handles like you wouldnt believe, and can tear things up. I cant wait for spring, and the snow to be gone.

DFXXX

01-12-2005, 01:03 AM

Ok my first post here after lurking around for several weeks now. I bought a REVO for myself after selling a Clodbuster I had laying around for the past 10 years. Great thing is I was able to buy the REVO straight across from the sale of the Clod.

I broke it in right before the rains started up here in SoCal and was only able to take it out for "fun" today since the rain quit.

Found a great little spot to run it and after a bit, two other guys with brand new REVO's showed up. We were all on different frequencies, so we proceeded to tear things up, hitting jumps sending up 6ft. into the air and traveling about 15ft. I could not believe the abuse these things took.

I broke nothing, another guy wasn't so lucky. His brakes went out, actually missing one of the pads(?!?!) and then a little bit later popped the upper A-arm ball out of the socket. No cracked spindle, I quess it was it too much force.

I had a slight problem with running too lean on both the high and low speed needles, but fixed it up and now its running great. Only thing left to do is adjust it so I shift into second and I'll be set!

Skribble

01-12-2005, 06:21 AM

Anyone have any experience with normal sized Maxx rims? I heard you need to shave the knuckles down, is this true? I'm getting my truck ready for race season, and I'm gonna do some changes. Right now I'm running 40 Series Bow Ties/Velocity Dish, and I have no problems with hooking up. It's just that my track is too small and I have trouble with manuverbility. No problems with turning after removing the steering stops and a single JR Z8800T (.15 sec, 180oz).

I don't want to buy Revo sized rims and mount cut Bow Ties because I KNOW I'll mess up, lol.

My Revo has been out of commission since July due to me killing the engine; Took it apart trying to fix my overheating problem.

Installed a FOC, Close Ratio 2-Speed, P2 Rockers, Removed Throttle/Reverse box, installed throttle servo in steering servo slot, removed bumpers, rollbar, tranny graurd, and a couple other things .. Still need aluminum shock ends, Traxxas lightweight/Lunsford goodies, CVDs, new radio, new engine, and a couple of other things. Can't wait to get everything set ..

horsman_f3

01-12-2005, 10:01 AM

Has anyone else put in the MIP Shock bodies ?? It seems that the stock REVO pistons are a bit to small. I put in some 80 wgt shouck oil, and they are still very soft.

Any suggestions ?

Also, are there any guys, or gals from southern Minnesota on here, that would like to get together for some racing ? I am from the Rochester area.

thedarkness

01-12-2005, 01:34 PM

With my mip bodies and shafts my piston barley fit in the bodies.Did you put the washer on the right side of the piston when you rebuilt them?Also im running #3 pistons in the rear and #2 in the front with 60wt oil, green springs front, silver rear,P2 rockers.Also when you rebuild your shocks rebuild them so they are 90mm total length instead of 87mm.this setup works good on my big block revo.

horsman_f3

01-12-2005, 01:55 PM

Yeah, They are assembled correctly. It sounds to me like they have some tollerence issues in there milling process. My stock shock with this same exact setup, where a lot stiffer. I put in the Gold shafts, stocks pistons, and seals in the MIP Bodies, and the are a lot softer. I think there is to much oil going around the pistions, not just threw the piston.

jae2828

01-12-2005, 07:33 PM

Hi all i am getting a sirio .23 for my new revo and i am new to the rc world and i am addicted....I do not know what tuned pipe i should put on it any suggestions?

thedarkness

01-12-2005, 07:47 PM

Allot of people are running the hpi ribbed pipe on there big block revos.I personnaly dont like the sound/performance of that pipe so i run this one:RB TM-01 (http://www.rbproducts.com/mainEn.php?part=Products&AR_Stat04=RB%20CONCEPT&PProduit=01900-401)

jae2828

01-12-2005, 10:35 PM

Thanks for the info how much is it and where can i get one?

thedarkness

01-13-2005, 09:46 AM

heres where I got mine:http://www.crispycrittershobbyshop.com/store/customer/product.php?productid=17062&cat=451&page=1
they are out of stock right now but the pipe is $40, I will check around to see if anyone has any is stock.

Monsterbrad

01-13-2005, 08:42 PM

Anybody thrown a BB in there Revo yet?????????
I am curious to know how they handle the power.....

thedarkness

01-13-2005, 09:07 PM

Im just putting my modded sh.28 in my revo today.I wont know if it will handle the power yet, but i have talked to a few that are running wasp.26s and V-specs and they have yet to have anu problems.The one guy did blow his diffs but they were the faulty ones, he replaced them and hasnt had a problem since.

Monsterbrad

01-13-2005, 09:22 PM

Well I was just curious because the t-maxx does not handle the power at all....
but then again I had the revo and it was pretty good for reliability.
but then again there is no power stock....

thedarkness

01-13-2005, 09:27 PM

So true MB, that stock engine is gutless.Its hard to say a truck has power after owning a schumacher hey MB.I wish the lightning pro was out before I got my revo, so far I'm into another traxxas money pit but the suspensions awsome(trying to get some saving grace)

dtbb825

01-13-2005, 09:42 PM

does anybody know how fast the revo goes?

thedarkness

01-13-2005, 10:52 PM

Stock it will do 40 in good conditions, less than ideal conditions its around 35.If your use to bigblock trucks it will seem slow under accelleration

Monsterbrad

01-13-2005, 11:02 PM

well I can say that first hand I have raced my old revo against my LST and top end the revo will beat the LST but the LST gets there a whole bunch quicker!!!
the revo was still a good truck though
just to slow for my blood

jae2828

01-13-2005, 11:04 PM

think the 2.5r has a little more snot in take off then 2.5 but it could be gearing in revo
I just got my revo and have a t-maxx since thanksgiving and im getting the sirio .23 for revo and putting my 2.5r in my t-maxx.

Monsterbrad

01-13-2005, 11:06 PM

yes the t-maxx is a little bit quicker but not that much quicker in a straight up drag race!!

jae2828

01-13-2005, 11:09 PM

i cant wait to get my sirio for the revo
I'm gonna use the revo for racing at local track and use t-maxx for bashing

jae2828

01-13-2005, 11:13 PM

i'm also thinking about taking the 2.5 i take off the t-maxx when i put the 2.5r on it to the machine shope to see what he can do with it.

jae2828

01-13-2005, 11:20 PM

When i put the sirio on the revo should i use stock clutch or should i go with a different 1 its goona be a bit the sirio is on lay away...

Monsterbrad

01-13-2005, 11:37 PM

I would say use a different clutch cause the stocker will not hold up to BB engine.
But then again I have never tried this modding a small block truck to big block..

thedarkness

01-13-2005, 11:46 PM

I would suggest the os.18tm over the sirio.23, powerwise they're very close but the os will out rev the sirio.23 and is around $100 cheaper.

JOK3R

01-14-2005, 01:31 PM

There was a guy on the traxxas forum who put an RB28 into his revo. His problem was the chassis flexing/blending and stripping spur gears as a result. Other than that the tranny and driveline held up just fine.

I just got my OS18tm for my revo but have yet to break it in. Just waiting on my backplate to start it up with my starter box. I am just about finished rebuilding my revo right now. I am waiting on a few more GH parts right now. Gonna be getting the shock tower mounts as soon as I can drive out and pick them up. They are also pretty much coming out with the whole revo line up, hollowed out aluminum cvds, aluminum tranny case and pretty much every other part under the sun. Oh yeah and the engine mount too for 21 and bigger engines to be used with pull start with the other aluminum arm for clearance.

http://www3.telus.net/chopshop/images/hanging2.jpg

http://www3.telus.net/chopshop/images/table2.jpg

Toycar

01-14-2005, 01:48 PM

It's lookin good Ron. I dunno, all that aluminum gonna be weighing you down. I saw Shane the other day toughting his GSracing Storm SUT pro says going to running a mach26 for reliability. Think he's gonna be fast this year under 8 lbs in the MT class.

horsman_f3

01-14-2005, 02:23 PM

I know all that aluminum is great to look at, But I found out by converting my Savage to all aluminum. It got very heavy, and expensive to fix. Aluminum likes to bend to easily for me.

winning edge designs

01-14-2005, 10:29 PM

Wow, and to think I ran an almost box stock Revo at Rc Pro, except for the radio and a few small parts but did very well....................It's no wonder all these companies scramble for aluminum parts as soon as anything get a little popularity.....It definately blings, but wow it must have been expensive..............I remember people complaining that R/C was too expensive, those days are gone huh?................:), Jim

JOK3R

01-15-2005, 09:37 PM

hahahaha I look forward to racing Shane and his Storm. Nothing like a challenge. This Revo is getting all done up in GH aluminum. If I feel at anytime that I need to shed some weight I will loose the arms first and work from there. ;)

revocrazykid14

01-18-2005, 09:11 PM

wuts tha cheapest place any of u guyz have found aluminum upgrades cuz i jus got sum $$$ n i wanna hop it up sum i just need sum sites!! :) :)

horsman_f3

01-19-2005, 01:36 PM

Check out 2coolRC. They are good, have a lot of stuff, and very nice to deal with. Also try DinBall on Ebay, dont be discouraged that they are over seas. I still get my stuff fast. Usually 10 days. They are the cheapest by far.

LANorg

01-19-2005, 10:44 PM

Hey there,
New to the forums.
Looking for bodies for my Revo. I wanted a Jeep or Charger that was offered for the Savage and Tmaxx.
Any idea if they'd fit or if there are others for 1/10 scale?
JOK3R, I see you have a charger from SEBracing. How does that fit the Revo?
Also, can you post some up close pics of the body on the chassis?

thanks,

-- Conrad

fezzy

01-21-2005, 09:08 PM

I've seen a few Revos with Charger shells, If you have a look in the Traxxas Revo Gallery on the Offical Traxxas Forums I'm sure you'll spy some. Most T-Maxx/Savage shells will fit, But there are a few exceptions and without trying first hand I can't tell you yes or no. But I have seen Revo's with Charger shells.

LANorg

01-22-2005, 10:41 AM

Thanks.

Anyone broken part 5451? the front driveshaft assembly?
Mine broke on the U joint, closest to the wheel. $12 to fix.
Was wondering if there were aluminum upgrades for that, and which aftermarket co. to go with.

-- Conrad

revocrazykid14

01-22-2005, 07:03 PM

u can get CVDS from MIP but they r a bit pricey

LANorg

01-22-2005, 08:18 PM

Yeah , 50 bucks? Thats a bit much, I think I'll replace the part for 12,
-- Conrad

LANorg

01-22-2005, 08:21 PM

Are there are any sure ways that will increase the .15 r's performance without buying aftermarket parts?
IE.: drop the glow plug lower by removing a washer, or opening the exhaust port a little (on the header) with a dremel?

winning edge designs

01-22-2005, 08:30 PM

LAnorg, the revo has had some parts with small air bubbles in them, making them much weaker then thier designed intention. Look for shiny half bubbles in your broken parts, if there is, just replace them with stock parts, if they have no bubbles you'll be ready to go(you'll know if they do because they also will break). I had this happen to me on my first two tanks, broke the rear yokes, on each rear wheel......The next two runs showed up the first design shock ends(less material) which broke as well..........The truck is bullet proof now with the upgraded parts from Traxxas, no need to drop $150 on CVD's, unless you dig the bling and have the money to spend............Jim

LANorg

01-22-2005, 08:35 PM

bling is for POS escalades, this is a real truck.
I DID have bubbles in my parts , this is why they broke, they were weak, you're saying these are traxxas' old versions and they will replace them with stronger ones for free?

-- Conrad

JOK3R

01-25-2005, 01:53 AM

http://beatyourtruck.com/Gallery/albums/Revo/abd.jpg

heres some more bling, hehe

tree-unit

01-25-2005, 03:01 AM

Wow, now this is entertainment, Jok3r.
I can't wait to hear if it performs as good as it looks!
(reaches for shades for another peak) I would c*** myself just taking it out-doors. Ah, the fine line between art and function... For myself, bullet proof would do - :eek: :eek:

sweet dude! :cool:

BJoeHandley

01-26-2005, 02:12 AM

Pat Fierle

01-26-2005, 01:19 PM

Do you guys have any fuel recomendations? I'm putting a 2.5R in a Nitro 'Pede with a Rustler/4-Tec tank, and I'm not too sure if I want to use Traxxas fuel (didn't like the way my Pro15 4-Tec ran on the stuff.)

I really suggest you try either traxxas top fuel 33%( that is what steve slayden uses in his 2.5 engine)or you should try backyard basher fuel.

I am just wondering if anyone has got a suggestion about a good affordable .15 size engine. At first i was looking at the 2.5 from traxxas then I read stuff that the people wrote about how it overheats so I am now second guessing my self. any help would be nice.by the way it is for the original t-maxx. The thing is loaded with alluminum so the engine has to be preety powerful plus i love speed.

LANorg

01-26-2005, 01:59 PM

Pat Fierle

01-26-2005, 02:37 PM

Maybe you should try a quart of Odonnell racing fuel. I've had no problems with it in my 2.5R.

Check out picco or OS for some good .15's, maybe the stock hpi nitro star if you're trying to save cash.

FYI, i have not ahd any overheating problems with the oddonnell fuel, but with the traxxas stuff (20%) it was close to 290F.

Hope you find what you're looking for.

What type of OS .15 should I look for(CV-R,Cv-RX)I want the most powerful .15. does Picco have more powerful .15's or does the 2.5r have as much power as some of these engines.(which one is the best bang for the buck).

LANorg

01-26-2005, 08:23 PM

The Picco .15 or a OS CV-R .15 will probably be your best bet (maybe even a .18). From my experience the OS will be slightly easier to tune for the novice.
Heres a link with prices and quite a few engines. Tower has pretty good prices, but make sure to shop around.
http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/WTI0095P?FVSEARCH=.15+engine&FVPROFIL=++
Heres a link for an OS .18 engine: http://www.osengines.com/engines/osmg2112.html
They're marketing it especially for traxxas.
You can also take a look at a smaller ofna picco .12 here: http://www.ofna.com/eng-hyper12.html

Now, a word on the horsepower ratings... They are not always exact. Besides, what you are looking for is an increase in power to weight ratio. So you want a higher power/weight from a new engine. Take the engines hp rating and weight into account, and that will tell you which is going to be the better performer:
The O.S. .12 TR (P)-T 5 Port 210g/1.3 hp = 161.5 grams per horse
The TRX 2.5R Racing Engine ? / 1.33hp = (somebody help me out here)
The Picco Hyper 12 215g/1.4 hp = 153.5 grams per horse
The OS .18
Now thats all fine and dandy, but when you slap the engine in your truck you have to make sure you calculate that same ratio for your trucks weight + the engine weight / engine power of your choosing.
Whatever gives the most power for least weight ratio is the sure bet.
Now money is going to be an issue and if you start applying this to .21, .23, .26, .28 or even bigger engines, your truck maybe overpowered and doing wheelies all the time.

So looking at all that crap above, the two .12's stand out well. But if you spend more than 5 minutes u can find better .15 and .18 engines.

Go here for engine comparison, just select the engines you want compared, scroll to the bottom and select compare:
http://www.nitroreview.com/TheDatabase/homeengines.cfm

have fun! hope you learn some stuff

-- Conrad

BJoeHandley

01-27-2005, 12:42 AM

I want to avoid Traxxas 20%, my N4T ran over 280 on the stuff, but normally ran 250-260 on Trinity Break-In blend. I've also seen a few properly tunes 2.5's that were cooked using Traxxas 20%.

JOK3R

01-27-2005, 06:47 PM

just weighed up my truck. I now have it almost ready to run. Servos are in, gas tank, pipe, roll bar. The only things left to put on are the rx and battery pack. Minus those 2 things and no wheels also, since those hot bodies are pigs, my Revo right now as it stands weighs 6.2lbs. So after the response tires are put on and rx and battery pack, it shouldnt weigh more than 8.5lbs. Not bad for being mostly aluminum ;)

stonesavage

01-27-2005, 11:16 PM

LANorg

01-27-2005, 11:58 PM

Hey BJoe,

The break in fuels have higher lube levels. Maybe you want to try some Blue Thunder 20%? I've used it extensively with .12 OS & Picco engines. No complaints. But the Odonnell I use now is great. I highly recommend it.
What climate are you in that warrants such high run temps?
If you want, there are some fuel additives that are supposed to drop the runnig temps, but I have not had the need and have not researched or tested them. I know a guy who runs Nitro BOOM or Nitro Blast or something of that namesake. He says he can get like 7-10 degrees C lower, but only really notices it on hotter days.

Hope that helps,

*******JOK3R********
How much weight did you save roughly on the EZ start motor? Did you switch to pull start?

-- Conrad

BJoeHandley

01-28-2005, 02:11 AM

Well I live in the far western suburbs of Chicago, and ran these temps during the spring and summer of '01 with a Intepid body painted black at noon and a Trinity Power Punk Head and read by a MIP temp gauge . I want the higher lube level in the fuel and I'm not too comfortable about fuel manufacturers who don't list the amount of oil in the fuel on the bottle (Traxxas, Blue Thunder, and O'Donnell do not list the amount on their bottles, while Wildcat does on their fuel as well as the fuel they make for Trinity and HPI) I'm actually considering 30% (with 18% oil) Heli fuel on the Pro15 just to see how much longer it lives (still has a little compression, and has had atleast 2 1/4-2 1/2 gallons through it). I already have the 2.5R and it's installed in the truck, I just have to strip it back down and locktite everything, paint it, and then install a Rx and Rx pack and it'll be good to go. The N-4T is a whole other mess though, The one way for the 2 speed is frozen on the rear pulley shaft, and I have to replace both, but don't have the shaft to finish the work (could have been some of the problem come to think of it, I did just discover the problem tonight, and seem to remember ocasional sticking issues in the past)

LANorg

01-28-2005, 09:13 AM

Yes BJoe,
All that extra friction may have been straining the engine too much. Hopefulyl you can find out what the exact problem is. -luck

-- Conrad

JOK3R

01-28-2005, 05:49 PM

*******JOK3R********
How much weight did you save roughly on the EZ start motor? Did you switch to pull start?

-- Conrad

Conrad, I am not sure on the weight saved by the ez start but its considerable. Right now I am starting my truck with a RD Starter Box. I just finished weighing my truck at work here with everything inlcuding the body and 40series bowties on dish rims. The grand total for the aluminum revo is 8.6lbs. I think thats pretty good weight. I will run it and see how it is. I will then try it with the plastic arms installed and see if I can notice that much more of a difference. Looks like I will be running with it all on though.

Mind you I have removed alot of plastic from it, the 2 plastic boxes on each side, no bumpers or handles, no center skid plate and no servo skid. My cvds have arrived as well so I will weigh them up and throw them on the revo and then re weigh it without the plastic ones. See if they are any heavier or lighter than the stock ones.

surfer

01-28-2005, 06:35 PM

hey guys

i pulled out my revo from the closet today for the first time since like...a few weeeks after release, and tomarrow im gonna fire her up with a mach .26 in her..

so my question is does anyone that has installed the big block kit have any hints or tips for me?

thanks!

P.S.hey jok3r, share the wealth man..buy us all some aluminum :D

thedarkness

01-28-2005, 08:11 PM

What kind of tips are you looking for? what bb conversion are you going to use?I used the qoncepts kit to put my sh.28 in my revo(yes i know im stupid haha).If you have any questions on the big block install pm me and ill try to answer to the best of my abilities.Also gear up to at least a 18 tooth clutch bell or else your top end will suffer.

BJoeHandley

01-29-2005, 12:15 AM

Pulley shaft is scored and needs replacement from taking them apart. I'll probably get the 4-Tec running first. How well do the stripped down revo's run with teh 2.5R out of curiosity?

LANorg

01-29-2005, 12:52 PM

Well, I'm going to find out how well they run lighter.

Starting with the EZ starter. Tore it off today, getting a pullstart tomorrow.
I raced my friend whos running with a pullstart, I tuned both vehchles, and in a straight line, we've noticed his gets slightly ahead on takeoff. After that its unnoticable. So the EZ start weight makes a small difference in a drag.

Anyone know roughly at what weight and power the revo starts to get unbalanced?

-- Conrad

surfer

01-30-2005, 01:04 AM

well after reading up about the trx bb kit i decided to scrap those plans and i bought an ofna/picco .21 max today, and i ordered the new era conversion with a couple other goodies to go along..

ill have some pics up on friday when i comback from school of her all decked out :-D

fezzy

01-30-2005, 10:52 AM

I picked up a Traxxas BB Conversion on Friday, Just in the proess of installing everything until I can pick up my engine this coming week. Not sure which engine to go for yet, I want something quick obviously, But within controllable limits and most of all cheap, So I might go with the Hyper 8-Port.

The Traxxas BB Kit isn't as complete as the Qoncepts as it does not come with a 3-Shoe Flywheel, And it doesn't come with a manifold that sits further back in order to mount a .21-.28 Pipe abit neater. I am confident I can do something with my RB 063 Pipe, Just maybe cutting the manifold down and feeding the excess into the pipe, Just to shorten the whole exhaust system abit more. The 3-Shoe clutch at the momment is an unknown, I have looked at some flywheels which look reasonably good to fit, But until you have the engine in and the flywheel on, There is no way of knowing. I have to admit though, Although it lacks completeness its very good value for money, Its cheaper than any of the other kits and comes with a forward only conversion aswell, Something that you need for any BB Conversion. One thing that you don't get with the Qoncepts is the multiple engine install mount, It has a variety of engine mounting position to install any .21-.28 Big Block, Or the Sirio S23 Medium Block, And the Picco P2 .21 Medium Block. In my opinion there is no point in going halves on the power, So I am going for the proper deal.

I'll keep you posted.

revocrazykid14

01-30-2005, 12:08 PM

Jok3r where did u get that pipe its bad @#$?? :) :) :p

ragamuffin

01-31-2005, 09:59 AM

The Picco .15 or a OS CV-R .15 will probably be your best bet (maybe even a .18). From my experience the OS will be slightly easier to tune for the novice.
Heres a link with prices and quite a few engines. Tower has pretty good prices, but make sure to shop around.
http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/WTI0095P?FVSEARCH=.15+engine&FVPROFIL=++
Heres a link for an OS .18 engine: http://www.osengines.com/engines/osmg2112.html
They're marketing it especially for traxxas.
You can also take a look at a smaller ofna picco .12 here: http://www.ofna.com/eng-hyper12.html

The O.S. .12 TR (P)-T 5 Port 210g/1.3 hp = 161.5 grams per horse
The TRX 2.5R Racing Engine ? / 1.33hp = (somebody help me out here)
The Picco Hyper 12 215g/1.4 hp = 153.5 grams per horse
The OS .18

So looking at all that crap above, the two .12's stand out well. But if you spend more than 5 minutes u can find better .15 and .18 engines.

Keep in mind that although their crankcases may fit the stock Traxxas engine mount, you'll have to find some way to route the header on side-exhaust engines. The Revo's header and pipe are designed for rear-exhaust designs. And I would not go any smaller than a .15 in displacement; you need the torque of that size and larger to get this heavy vehicle and large tires moving.

I picked up an OS TM .18 this past weekend and on the 8th tank it is just about as fast as my Picco P2 .21 was. For a direct drop-in engine at the price you can't go wrong. And speaking of Picco...I doubt if I'll ever buy another Picco or Picco-based enigne again. When they're fresh they run like a raped ape, but the company still has some QC issues. For an Italian company this is inexcusable.

LANorg

01-31-2005, 09:38 PM

Raga.

What fuel have you got in your OS? And when you say runs like your .21, you mean you stuck a .21 in this truck? If so, how did you find the Revo handled the .21 engine?

-- Conrad

thedarkness

01-31-2005, 10:56 PM

revo handles fine with a bigblock in it(mines got a .28) with a big block it doesnt way anything over stock/ezstart.

LANorg

02-01-2005, 02:13 PM

Darkness,

So the handling geometry is no problem and its not weighted down. Whats the pick up like? I'm sure its like lightning, but can you get the power to the ground?
One more thing, did the plastic drivetrain disintigrate yet?
I've been thinking of BB'ing the revo, but it seems like the conversion, drivetrain upgrades, gear upgrades and engine will cost a hell of a lot.
What have you done to yours so far?

-- Conrad

ragamuffin

02-01-2005, 03:25 PM

Raga.

What fuel have you got in your OS? And when you say runs like your .21, you mean you stuck a .21 in this truck? If so, how did you find the Revo handled the .21 engine?

-- Conrad

I am using O'Donnell 30% with the stock OS plug. The .21 I had beforehand was the Picco P2 midblock. I inspected the entire drivetrain numerous times...driveshafts, yokes, diffs, transmission. They all handled the 2+hp with no problems.

I have noticed that the handling with the slightly smaller/lower OS is improved over the Picco. The latter engine sat a little higher and was heavier; along with the N.E. engine mount this combo was slightly more weighty than the stock Traxxas mount & OS TM .18 (no EZ-Start, using a Roto-Start instead). The back of the truck doesn't sag quite as much. I am also using a MS air filter.

Conrad, for ease of installation and value, I would just get the TM. Direct drop-in, uses the stock mount, clutch/flywheel assembly, pipe (includes a header) & air filter. It's a giant killer. :p

LANorg

02-01-2005, 08:55 PM

Thanks for info Raga,
{So the drivetrain handles that power, EH? cool.**
Yes, I am seriously considering the OS engine. I need to go pullstart if I do.
The only draw back I can see with the .18 is the power. Its not rated at that much of a big jump from the 2.5R. But then again, those numbers aren't the most accurate and I don't want to get something too huge.
I've also only heard great things from people who have switched from the R to the OS.
I'm thinking I'll run the 2.5R with the shims removed and a colder plug in there. Also going to give the wildcat 20% a try, see what its like.

Has anyone tried the steering mod for a few extra degrees of turn in both directions?

-- Conrad

LANorg

02-01-2005, 08:58 PM

Raga,
Forgot to ask you, the OS comes with the header, but what pipe are you running?
And is everything you purchased for the engine upgrade?

thanks,

-- Conrad

LANorg

02-01-2005, 09:00 PM

Raga,
Forgot to ask you, the OS comes with the header, but what pipe are you running?
And is everything you purchased for the engine upgrade?

thanks,

-- Conrad...asks himself.*Why did this post again?*

ragamuffin

02-01-2005, 09:05 PM

Raga,
Forgot to ask you, the OS comes with the header, but what pipe are you running?
And is everything you purchased for the engine upgrade?

thanks,

-- Conrad

At present I am using an RC10 GT pipe because the stock one is suffering from something that rattling around inside and this makes tuning impossible. Another Revo pipe should be in before the end of the week. Bottom-end and midrange is good but compared to the dual-chamber stock pipe top-end is lacking a bit.

Didn't quite understand your second question...but all I transferred over from the stock configuration was the following:

Flywheel collet
Flywheel
Clutch nut
Clutch shoes (MIP in this case)
Clutchbell, bearings, fiber shim & e-clip

I swapped out engines within an hour, and this includes slightly dremeling the Roto-Start housing to clear the OS header.

LANorg

02-02-2005, 01:24 PM

Hey, thanks Raga.

I wanted to know WHAT ARE all the options you included with the swap were. Glad you were able to decipher.

-- Conrad

fezzy

02-02-2005, 06:09 PM

I have ran the Associated NTC3 'Torque' Pipe on my Revo/2.5R for a little while, What a great pipe!. The engine produces so much more bottom end, My Revo was literally pulling wheelies with the stock gearing, And top end loss was pretty much non existant, Well recommended!.

Just thought I'd update my profile slightly, With details on my Revo.

Today I picked up my powerplant.... A Dynamite Mach26 :D. I am just waiting on a small order of: 3-Racing Delrin 35t Spur, 3-Racing 17t Clutchbell & Crazy Nut Racing Ally Shoes. Thanks for these parts goes to Rich @ RC Hopups (http://www.rchopups.co.uk), Thanks for the prompt service and handling of the transaction, A pleasure to deal with once again.

I have an RB 9863 Pipe ready to go on, Although I feel it may be a little too long and it could protrude a little to much, As back-up I may well get an Associated MGT Pipe, It is a good .21 Pipe in a small package, And should be much more space efficient. The Mach26 is looking great, And I'm sure its going to go as fast as it looks.

I'll keep you all posted.

http://www.ashtuk.dsl.pipex.com/stuff/bbrevo.jpg
http://www.ashtuk.dsl.pipex.com/stuff/bbrevo2.jpg

thedarkness

02-03-2005, 11:40 AM

Looks good fezzy, looks like you still need the non pull backplate for your engine,If you dont know witch one to get its the one for the sh.21s.
LANorg sorry for not responding earlier but it handles like a stock truck,Untill i hit the trottle that is.I can get the power to the ground but it takes a few things, a loose slipper and a light throttle control
Heres a list of what I have done to my revo with some prices
SH.28($130)
qoncepts bb conv.($90
rb tm01 pipe($40)
foc($5)
19tooth savage cb($4)
35 tooth spur($6)
3 clutch shoes/springs(traded for the stock sh.28 backplate
P2 rockers($6)
green springs front/silver rear
60wt oil
titanium nitride shock shafts($16 a set of 4)
removed bumpers and center skid
Rd racing bump box($130)
Hitec aggressor srx(just payed $120cdn)
OUCH ive spent over $500us over stock.

Im going to replace the pushrods and turnbuckles when they bend.The driveline seems to be holding up but it has yet to see track time.I will have a full report on my trucks performance after this weekend when I get back from the canadian winter nationals, wish me luck haha

fezzy

02-03-2005, 11:53 AM

I have a Non-Pullstart backplate for GS-B01 on order at my LHS, Should have it in tomorrow. Here in the UK you cannot get any SH Parts, So I had to find a different manufacturer of engine but was originally built by SH, And seeing as the GS-B01 is built by SH, I am pretty sure it'll fit no problems once the crank pin is filed down.

oldginger

02-03-2005, 01:56 PM

I called Traxxas CS (David) for a defective part this morning and I have to admit that he handled my call appropriately. I believe a well trained CS team definitely helps the company grow.

For those companies who can only copy people's ideas and cut prices, you have my 2 thumbs way down.

Good job! Traxxas. ;)

TSAIS (http://tsais.com)

jae2828

02-03-2005, 07:47 PM

getting my .23 tomorrow hope its a good engine it cost enough.

hyperstang

02-04-2005, 06:59 PM

Hey Fezzie,
the Nitro TC3 torque pipe, you have a link to that bad boy.

I just got my 18TM installed and I was looking to upgrade my pipe. I am currently using the stock one.

Thanks

fezzy

02-04-2005, 07:16 PM

Sure, They are made for 12/15 engines, However I am sure it'd work very well on an 18TM also, I certainly noticed an improvement in throttle response and acceleration over the stock Revo pipe.

Blue (http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXCKN4&P=)
Natural 'Hard Anodised' (http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXCKN5&P=)
Black (http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXCKN6&P=)

surfer

02-05-2005, 12:40 PM

heres my revo:

Ofna/picco max .21
new era mounts
aluminum rockers
titanium hingepins
AE pipe
MIP clutch
motor savers filter
all rockers
red and black aluminum pushrods
racers edge shock socks
and shock rod ends
AE 50wt oil
JR Z650 m'sw for steering and throttle
(on order: TSAIS T-Bonz)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v257/humprnr/53fe8390.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v257/humprnr/0e65c9f9.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v257/humprnr/6be81c86.jpg

dksu

02-05-2005, 08:02 PM

Hey gusy, I have a question. I just bought a jr xs3. Can I switch out the stock receiver and transmitter to my new jr? Since the revo has this opti drive thing. I'm not sure if I can. I c all these wires going from the receiver to opti.

LANorg

02-07-2005, 11:37 AM

Ran some wildcat eliminator 20n/18o on the weekend. Blows the doors off the traxxas 20% blend. I noticed a huge power increase and it liked to run a bit richer. Quite a bit darker smoke colour and volume from the exhaust.
I am very pleased with the eliminator. Ran in the 230's, but my on board was fading fast so i'm not sure if that temp is precise.
I can run for about an hour and 15 solid on the on board batt. I looked for some 1800mah's that would fit, but no one makes them. Anyone have any ideas?
Its like 30 bucks to buy another stocker.

-- Conrad

LANorg

02-07-2005, 11:39 AM

-- Conrad

LANorg

02-07-2005, 11:47 AM

I've also tried out that steering mod.
It allows the servos to turn a bit more. The servos do not utilize the full range of motion, but it is definately noticable!

KanaiDude

02-07-2005, 11:49 AM

Hey Guys,
I am really considering buying a revo and was hoping to get a few questions answered please help! So what do I need to be competitive out of the box, FOC, BowTies, drop the starter system, those are gimmies but what about the rockers, shock springs etc. etc. etc. please fill in the rest of the list for me! On top of these questions does anyone know the rules about running in the stock class with the revo, can you put in the new OS .18 and still run in the stock class? Once you drop in a big block you are stuck running unlimited, what classes are there now, stock, BB, and unlimited?

LANorg

02-07-2005, 11:49 AM

yay for MS paint.

-- Conrad

LANorg

02-07-2005, 11:51 AM

You won't be able to run stock with an OS in there man. The rules govern pipes as well if i'm not mistaken.

-- Conrad

oldginger

02-07-2005, 12:00 PM

very nice action pictures!

LANorg

02-07-2005, 12:51 PM

Thanks,
They were taken yesterday on the campus of my school.
I also run at this abandoned manufacturing plant. Its great, lots of room, a jump or two, lots of stairs and the dirt-on-concrete adds for spectacular drifting.

-- Conrad

LANorg

02-07-2005, 01:01 PM

Don't know if anyone else can get the revo to balance on two wheels much, but I can get it to drive for about ten feet sometimes.
I drive two wheels up the ramp at a certain speed and try to manouver on two wheels.

-- Conrad

LANorg

02-07-2005, 01:05 PM

Guess I'll continue spamming until someone yells at me...

-- Conrad

LANorg

02-07-2005, 01:09 PM

-- Conrad

oldginger

02-07-2005, 01:13 PM

how about a video clip? :D

LANorg

02-07-2005, 01:15 PM

Alright, last one, I swear.
Took this during an "Ice Storm" in Atlanta couple weeks ago.
There was a whole playing field with a 1/2 inch sheet of ice on it. Needless to say I was having too much fun doing 30 mph doughnuts to take pics of that.
Maybe I'll get some good pics this weekend.

-- Conrad

LANorg

02-07-2005, 01:19 PM

Can you post videos? Max pic size in like 70kb

LANorg

02-07-2005, 01:23 PM

OK, put up one video. No ip attacks please! (bloody nerds...)
http://128.61.32.140/revovid.html right click and "save taget as"

-- Conrad

fezzy

02-07-2005, 02:49 PM

Cool Pics, Good to abit more in the thread :). I did the steering mod myself a while ago, It gave a noticeable ammount of increase in steering and turning radius, Well worth it if your running on a tight track or demand more turning.

There isn't much you have to do to makea Revo competitive. The first mods you should look at are getting some thicker oil, My recommendation is 50wt as a starting point and going with some stiffer springs, There are two recommendations for these. 1 is to buy 1 pair of Tan Springs and re-use the stock Green Springs, But on the front. This is the most cost effiecent way of doing things, The second way is buying 1 pair of Orange Springs, And 1 pair of Gold Springs. P2 Rockers are also a nice improvement if your racing, Although not a dramatic improvement. The FOC is a great upgrade, It removes dead weight from the tranny lowering rolling resistance and a huge chunk of complexity from the transmission, Replacing the EZ-Start with a lighter starting method is also great for shedding weight, Pullstart or Jumpstart are good replacements and considerably lighter than the EZ-Start system. Taking out the two steering servos and installing a single high torque/high speed servo is also a good idea to get super competitive, Its lighter, More effiecent and Gives you quicker more responsive steering, Similar could be said for the throttle servo also, Giving you quicker throttle response and Stronger more precise braking.

If your going to stick with the 2.5R (There is no reason why you shouldn't) then there are a few mods you can buy to balance and improve the performance for the track, The 40t Spur will give you some better low end, The Close-Ratio 2-Speed will give you quicker acceleration in 2nd gear and a better head will allow you to lean the engine out a little more, To produce more power, Run more effiecently on fuel and run cooler for longer engine life. Replacing the pipe with an Associated NTC3/RC10GT Torque Pipe really livens up the engines response and bottom end power also, With little loss to top end. If you do go that way though you wont need the 40T Spur, Infact even with the stock 38t spur and the torque pipe its still enough to lift the front wheels on tarmac and grass, So maybe even going down to a 36t might be beter, Its something I wanted to try with mine but I just went big block for my power needs.

All of these mods are not must haves, These are just to get the ultimate best you can from your Revo, They might also not suit your track surface or driving style. So my advice is to run it stock and see what YOU want to improve.

JOK3R

02-07-2005, 03:05 PM

Well here is alittle video of my Revo succesfully landing a double back flip of a skate 1/4 pipe jump. I attempted it the first time out and nailed it right away to the ovation of the crowd, 25,000 plus at BC Place in Vancouver, BC for the Monster Jam.

Double Backflip (http://www3.telus.net/chopshop/images/revobackflip.wmv)

KanaiDude

02-07-2005, 03:25 PM

Thanks for all the pointers Fezzy, I run 1/8 scale and was just curious what racers have been doing to there trucks so far, and all I have really heard are what you said, so what difference do the P2 rockers make, this is one of the must have upgraids from what I have heard? I take it people do not run 40 series tires on these things, just regular bow ties? What type of glow plug do you guys run in the 2.5r is the OS lc3 a good plug for it or what are you guys using? I think I'll pick up my revo from tower with 30 off and 20 gift certificate bringing my cost from 469-30-20= 419 free shipping anybody know of a better place? Thanks guys...

fezzy

02-07-2005, 06:30 PM

P2 Rockers increase the progressive rate of the suspension, So if you could compress the suspension to a certain point and remember it, With the P2 Rockers at that point the suspension would be stiffer. They are a good upgrade, But compared to what 50wt and Tan Springs offer its not quite as big an improvement, But a good one non the less!. You can run whichever scale tyre you like, So if its 40 Series you prefer of standard Maxx size, Its up to you. One thing I will say is that with Maxx Sized you have ALOT more Wheel/Tyre choice, And generally they are abit lighter and some prefer the way the tyre absorbs the terrain due to the higher side wall, They are also not as wide as 40-Series so generally the steering feels more responsive. I have heard people having great luck running the LC3's in the 2.5R's, Personally I haven't tryed them, I generally stick to using McCoy MC59's, They tend to work well in the 2.5R aswell as the Traxxas Super Duty plug (#3232).

I can't help you with regard to purchase of your Revo as I live in the UK, So I don't have a good knowledge of shops operating in the US and what deals they might have on offer.

I also used to race 1/8 RallyCross, I used to race a Hyper7 Pro w/RB WS7 II, Then I moved onto a Crono RS01 with the same RB Engine, Next up I got another Hyper7 Pro, But the UK Spec car packed with all the tasty upgrades, I had that with an RB S7-II. I sold up my buggy gear to move onto Monster Trucks for the winter season, Needless to say the Winter season is nearly over and the new season will be begining shortly. But, I have no interest in getting back into buggies for the meantime, Trucks are SO much more fun! :D.

nitrobug

02-07-2005, 10:04 PM

KanaiDude, Tower's price of 469.00 is the about the best you are going to get unless you get lucky and find one on E-bay for less. I would get it at Tower for the price you quoted, that is a awsome price.

KanaiDude

02-08-2005, 08:58 AM

Thanks again guys, I've been looking at monster trucks for a long while, it's been a toss up in going with a Truggy or not, I also like the LSP, but I get so sick of hearing people complain about truggies I figured I would just get a Revo, plus they are so sweeet looking Traxxas sure has some good R&D going on. I race a 777 full time at least every other weekend and wanted something to have fun with, thanks again see you back on here when I get the truck L8R...

fezzy

02-08-2005, 01:52 PM

A mate of mine has a LSP, They are a real nice bit of kit, But the standard engine really sucks. A Revo at our local track made mincemeat of a standard LSP, With a better engine though they area real solid truck. My opinion on truggies is that they are great, Certainly the best racing format and they do have some good features. But I was so used to racing buggies I'd had enough and wanted something completely different, Enter the Revo.. A pure MT but with racing pedigree, Perfect!.

KanaiDude

02-09-2005, 08:15 AM

LANorg

02-09-2005, 11:46 AM

Dude,

I've broken a U joint, but I'm not sure how. All of a sudden the thing was in rear wheel drive and the driveshaft was hanging out.
I've broken/bent one rod end on my front left rod, and a friend of mine has broken the ball end on one of his rear shocks.
(he did this by flipping his truck. The ground hit the tire in such a way as to over extend the suspension, it pulled the ball end right off the shock shaft.) It was stripped and cracked. fixing the U-joint cost me $12 because I had to buy a whole new driveshaft assembly.

The rod ends and ball ends are different sizes I beleive. I wanted to just buy some generics, but i'm not sure what size they are. If anyone knows the size for the rods and suspension, please post.

Other than that I have had no other breaks. I personally like the plastic idea in regards to flexing, and the black colour does not bother me.

one question...
You're considering switching to an aftermarket cooling head. If I'm not mistaken those can only take 15-20 degrees off your running temps. And for their price, I don't think its that attractive. Are you looking for pleasing asthetics or do you really want that drop in temp for that price?

-- Conrad

KanaiDude

02-09-2005, 11:59 AM

LANorg, thanks for the tips and nice picks!! I'm looking to make this truck ffaasstt, I run against a fast crowd and it's going to take everything I can to stay competitive with them, a cooling head will probably be one of my later mods though I see your point. I see that there are quite a few people running 40's now, what do you guys think about the tire thing, and most of all I want to stay production legal, will 40's be illegal in production class?

flipster

02-09-2005, 12:09 PM

I just had a one way bearing die, I've got a new one on the way, but I was wondering if anyone knew of any general maintenance procedures to ensure the new one lives for a while. I was thinking of spraying it with WD40, then using some air-tool oil that I have around on it. If anyone knows of any specific cleaning/oiling things I should use, I'd like to hear 'em.

Also, how often do you clean/relube your bearing?

ragamuffin

02-09-2005, 03:26 PM

Hey Fezzy, so I should get orange springs for the front and gold for the rear is this the most common setup? I'm going with the p2 rockers, you have to get the p2 rods also? I want to replace the starting system also, does a pull start fit in there ok does the body get in the way, what about the hot bodies starting system if I were to use that do I need to buy a pull start backplate or is the backplate already setup for pullstart with the ez start system? Have you tried the mip clutch? As far as tires go I think I will stick to standard size, have you tried those panther pythons yet or are bow ties good, and what is the favorite rim choice for the Revo? Any recomendations on a replacement cooling head, will that put me out of production class, what If I modded my 2.5 would that throw me out of production? Have you seen anyone using cnc'd rockers or is that overkill, what parts have you broken on the truck I was planning on ordering some extra arms and what not just to be safe. Thanks Fezzy I know its a ton of questions but you have been SO helpful so far, thanks again!

My Revo (which I race) has the follwoing:

P2 rockers, 60wt oil & gold/tan springs.
MIP clutch which works great.
Maxx-sized Bow-Ties cut and mounted on stock Revo rims.
Running an OS .18 TM, but the 2.5's stock head is fine. I don't know why everyone is so anxious to run out and spend more dosh for an aftermarket head... :rolleyes:
I would stick with the stock plastic rockers. They are cheaper and lighter, less mass moving around on that rocker post.
On the engine I was using the Roto-Start system, but have switched over to a pullstarter (one less battery to keep charged). Both fit just fine.

I run the truck hard at the local track and have only broken one lower right arm. My fault because I landed the triples wrong and smacked right into one of the spikes holding the piping down. :eek: