*Guillows Conversion*

[BipeBuilder]

I am building a Kit by Guillows that I want to convert from Rubber Power to Electric Micro RC. It is a WW1 Bipe, a Tomas Morse S4-C Scout to be exact, with a 24 inch wingspan. I have my reciever and servos picked out, but as for a motor, gearing, and ESC I am totaly in the dark. I am completely new to Electric flight and I need help finding manufaturers of quality components. Not only that, but what stength of motor I will need, what batteries I will need, and so on. I am going to run only 2 servos and I would like to have throttle control. I want to keep things as light as I possibly can. ANY AND ALL HELP YOU CAN OFFER IS GREATLY APPRECIATED!!!!!!!!!! Thank you very much for taking the time to read this!
Cessna182
P.S. Feel free to E-Mail me at cessna182@rcpilot.com if you like. Thanks again!

[anticoli]

I would suggest a GWS motor for your plane. They seem to be the cheapest available for the quaility You can purchase 2 kinds w/ball bearings and without. The ball bearings version costs $5 more 12.50 verses 17.50.

They weigh between 24.1 gramms to 25.3 gramms and will run on as few as 4 cells but I would recomend 5 to 7. This is good due to the fact that many motors (NEED up to 8 cells)

The DX or STD (w-ball bearings or without) model A will spin an 8x4.3 prop and has a 5.8 to 1 gear ratio this should be the ticket for you since you may want to keep your prop size at a minimum for scale looks (even though it will be a bit larger than scale)However the model up -B will give more thrust and spin a larger prop of 9x4.7 with a 7 to one gear ratio. You can run them on 50 miliamp cells or use some double time cells (NMH) as the motor draws little current. -Less than 1 amp in most cases. A great little speed control would be the Pixie 7 sold by Castle Creations - I forgot the exact weight but believe it is just over a gramm and handles several times the current you will need.

Hope this helps
Mike

[Jason Nowell]

BipeBuilder:

I second that, nice choice on the Scout, it's always been one of my favorites.

I recently did two built up bipes, a 22" Fokker D-VII and a 28" Stearman. Both flew well with the GWS "Stick" motor (DX-A). I ran 7 120mAh cells on the Fokker with an 8x4.7 prop and 8 120mAh cells on the Stearman with a 9x4.7 prop. Both had just the right amount of power for scale like flight (no loops, just good slow flight).

On the Speed Control, I use the Great Planes C-5 for almost everything. it is the only one I have found that gives you a true FULL throttle with a good proportional curve. Some I have bought top out at half stick and things like that. The Pixie is also a good choice.
Good luck!

Jason

[Espresso-Outfit]

I was looking over a set of kits in that areana today at the local hobby shop, it's a tempting prospect to build one in RC format, I've always built in their traditional set up in the past. Also, since we have bi-plane lovers here, I gotta show my Jenny.

http://www.discflight.com/jenny1.jpg

Hard to believe it's an ARF, but this one pulled me back out of foam land, and for some reason, when I show it to people, even briefly, they seem to remember it distinctly afterwards.

I'd like to see a photo of the bird you are working on, as do others reading I'm sure. I'll be following your footsteps soon, just thinking of building several at once.................

[Keith Spriggs]

This topic prompted me to sign up for this forum. I have decided to get in to RC. I have flown control line off and on for many years, but I know virtually nothing about RC. I have decided that ultimately what I would like to do is build stick and tissue models in the 24-36 inch wing span. I am looking at the new spread spectrum equipment. Are the receivers and servos that are available for that type of equipment light enough to be used in an electric powered plane of that type. I don't think I would ever want any larger IC engine powered planes, but it would be nice if the equipment would be usable for that if I decided to do that. I see that Spektrum and Furtuba use a different system is one of them superior to the other. Thanks in advance. Pretty steep learning curve for and old control line flier.

[st1louis]

Did you ever receive an answer to this post? I am basically after the same information. I have been away from the hobby for over twenty years last flying free flight rubber and control line. I now have a large yard (1 acre) and want to fly small electric rc. There are so many interesting kits available in the walnut scale to 30" wing span segment but I am sure they require some structural beefing up. Do you know of any books or magazines that deal with the details of kit bashing rubber free flight to electric rc?

[Keith Spriggs]

I did not get any direct response to this. I am getting back in to the model airplane thing after 35 years. I have always flown control line.

I have been spending a lot of time on line and reading a lot. I have more problem remembering the information rather than finding it. I too would like to find a book/s on the subject. The problem is that technology is changing so fast that any book would would to some extent be outdated shortly. Keep plugging. I assume you might live in St Louis. I go to 2or 3 contest at Buder Park each year,

[st1louis]

OK, well thanks. I posted a similar message under, I think it was micro rc, I'll let you know if I get any hits on it.