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Monsterbrad
11-26-2005, 01:18 PM
The 3 will work good for almost all conditions!
The 8 is good for colder weather cause it's a hotter plug.
Stick with the 3 or a mc59 they are very good all around plugs also.

Quad Racer
11-26-2005, 03:11 PM
It is you will be happy with them. they are a little better then the mc59. But the are both great plugs I run mc59s and I have great success with them

2mcgrath
11-26-2005, 09:15 PM
monsterbrad how many shims did you have to use on your ofna bell on the inside?i am using a .28 from the savage and savage flywheel for now untill i get one for the gt..i tried the ofna bell its gonna work just has to be shimmed out to run on the spur alittle better.

Monsterbrad
11-27-2005, 12:25 AM
I have a few on the inside and alot on the outside.
It works well.
Just have to get the tranny figured out!
It's free wheeling at the spur gear :D
Something is blown out

Cotharyus
11-27-2005, 07:58 AM
The 3 will work good for almost all conditions!
The 8 is good for colder weather cause it's a hotter plug.


Actually, the 8 is good for colder weather because it's a cooler plug, medium heat instead of hot. Cooler air is denser, and you get more fuel charge as well if you're tuned correctly, thus it requires less heat from the glow plug to cause ignition at the same point in the stroke.

2mcgrath
11-27-2005, 11:19 PM
well i got to run mine today.i got the ofna bell working.with a few shims.this truck is very stable very hard to turn over..my savage flips over much easier than the gt..i think its gonna be a pretty good truck.i bought it to turn it into my race truck.so have to see how it goes.and i got the clutchbell and flywheel and stuff for it on the way.

beaglegod
11-28-2005, 04:06 PM
I just got my MGT today! I ordered it with a full set of RPM A-arms, I was just wondering what you guys suggest. Should I swap out the A-arms before running the truck or should I use the stock a-arms until they need replacing?

beaglegod
11-28-2005, 05:33 PM
I just got my MGT today and was sooo psyched but when testing the radio,the thing simply does not respond. Throttle servo moves around a bit on its own at first and than is unresponsive,as for the steering it does absolutely nothing. Anyone have any suggestions? Im pretty new at all this and needless to say very disapointed. :mad:

fuzzy2133
11-29-2005, 02:25 PM
double check for new batteries in both transmitter and reciever. The steering servo may be over powering the servo saver if you are trying to turn the wheels with the tires on the ground. other than that check the settings on the radio, check the transmitter antenna is screwed in all the way and the reciever antenna is to the top of the antenna tube.

beaglegod
11-29-2005, 06:30 PM
double check for new batteries in both transmitter and reciever.

Yep you were right the NEW batteries I bought werent so new, a 5 cell NiMH pack did the trick. By the way someones told me that before I break the engine in I should take the engine apart to check for metal shavings, and seal the back plate. What do you guys think.

2mcgrath
11-29-2005, 10:34 PM
any of you guys racing your mgt's?i was wondering how the standard size bowties would do on the mgt for racing..i know most recommend the 40 series bowties..but will the standard size perform well on the track and be good enough.or is it a must to get the 40 series?

Quad Racer
11-29-2005, 11:06 PM
For the MGt it is a must for 40 series. The standard to good but you get more handeling out of the 40's. they also fit the truck really well.

Cotharyus
11-30-2005, 06:24 AM
Make sure you get the 23mm hubs if you go 40 series. Otherwise you won't get a single heat out of the rims before the come apart.

2mcgrath
11-30-2005, 07:46 AM
yeah thats another thing i was wondering.how the stock hex size would hold up on the 40 series

slaf
11-30-2005, 09:52 AM
I race my MGT with standard maxx size bowties with 14mm velocity wheels and it works A1. Because standard maxx size tire have a taller sidewall, the flex more but they also absorb small bumps and you can set your suspension a little bit stiffer.

I also use 2 screws on each wheel, I'm 150% they will not come loose will racing. I'm not sure the 23mm will not come loose. Also, standard maxx size Bowties + Velocity are very very light, a bit lighter than 40 series...

Coth's right when he talks about 14mm velocity 40 serie wheels, they will bend easily. I did the same mistake.

Maybe next year I'll race with 23mm Velocity wheels with 40 serie Crimefighter....

badboy2
11-30-2005, 12:16 PM
i finally have he $$ to buy my mgt new shox ..is the proline powershocks the best out there or the big bore are better?any suggestions?

slaf
11-30-2005, 12:22 PM
i finally have he $$ to buy my mgt new shox ..is the proline powershocks the best out there or the big bore are better?any suggestions?

I race with PowerStroke + Extra stiff springs for the MGT with 40wt oil and I really like them. A little bit heavier than stock shocks but they work very well in small bumps and in the washboard section :)

badboy2
11-30-2005, 12:31 PM
what color springs are u using?

metalry101
11-30-2005, 12:34 PM
what color springs are u using?
The extra stiff springs are white and gray.

Quad Racer
11-30-2005, 04:27 PM
Cotharyus you have no clue waht you are talking about. I have the standered max hexes. I have 3 gallons and counting on my mgt. Ihav eran the 40 series with it for 2 and a half gallons. I race my MGT and I hav ehad no problems what so over with the stock hexes.

2mcgrath the hold up fine.

Monsterbrad
11-30-2005, 04:52 PM
I have had the stock hexes on my truck since it was new and the stock drive axles.
They seem good
I have replaced every pin in the center drive shafts though.
The ones that thread in.
I am not a fan of the 23MM big nuts and that.
They put too much strain on the axles !

Quad Racer
11-30-2005, 04:55 PM
I am not a fan of them either. I have bent the dog bone of the cvd and grinded one of the pins off of a cvd.

slaf
11-30-2005, 09:00 PM
Cotharyus you have no clue waht you are talking about. I have the standered max hexes. I have 3 gallons and counting on my mgt. Ihav eran the 40 series with it for 2 and a half gallons. I race my MGT and I hav ehad no problems what so over with the stock hexes.

2mcgrath the hold up fine.


I have bent older 14mm Velocity wheel 40 serie.....Easily :)

Quad Racer
11-30-2005, 09:16 PM
I have proline bowties on the 40 series velocity rims and I have had ne hes issues. I did bent a cvd and a broke one were the pin goes thourgh.

metalry101
11-30-2005, 10:05 PM
Cotharyus you have no clue waht you are talking about. I have the standered max hexes. I have 3 gallons and counting on my mgt. Ihav eran the 40 series with it for 2 and a half gallons. I race my MGT and I hav ehad no problems what so over with the stock hexes.

2mcgrath the hold up fine.
You might not want to insult Coth like that. He's one of the most knowledgeable MGT guys on this board. Lots, and lots, and lots of people have had problems with the standard 40 Series rims on heavy trucks like the MGT and LST. So you've had good luck, I'm happy for you, but that doesn't mean other people haven't had problems. You can state that you've had great luck with them without telling other people that they're dead wrong.

2mcgrath
12-01-2005, 10:58 AM
yeah i for sure want to use bowties with velocity wheels. im not a fan of spoke wheels for racing they break and have weak points.the track i will be racing on is pretty hard packed and its a tight track..it has some pretty big jumps but nothing massive.i just want to get this thing set up and throw it out on the track and be competitive..i know you want to do the foc right off before racing..i will be running stock shocks for awhile..the stock steering servo is it good enough to get you by for a bit?this truck will be used primairly for racing.i have a savage to bash with.is their anything else to be aware of, or any must do's for racing?thanks for all the help guys

Monsterbrad
12-01-2005, 04:57 PM
RPM
TITANS
THEY ARE THE BEST WHEEL IN MY OPINION!
I HAVE RACED THE **** OUTA THEM AND THEY WORK GREAT
Thats my sugestion for anybody looking for a standard wheel that will hold up to racing.

Quad Racer
12-01-2005, 05:10 PM
Get a foc,lighter rims,tires, a hump pack, and a better radio system. I know it sounds like a lot but it is worth it.

2mcgrath
12-01-2005, 07:55 PM
cool.i got the radio system covered and the hump pack covered allready.what do you guys think on the stock shocks about 45 weight, oil wise?i hate to ask so many questions.im just wanting to make sure when i head to the track the truck will be ready.im going to the track next week to get in some practice if it isnt cold like it has been.

Quad Racer
12-01-2005, 10:56 PM
Get the stiffest spring gold I think and red and use 50 wt for the truck. I used this set up with ft shock caps and handele the track weel. Then I got my proline and wow what a difference.

Cotharyus
12-02-2005, 06:13 AM
Honestly, your shock setup is going to depend on your jumps with this truck. You don't want to nose into the launch face if you have to hit it hard (big table top or something) and you don't want to bottom out too hard on the other side - of course, downsiding all but eliminates that as a problem. So I use the launch as the key to how to stiff to set things up. I have a non-AE set of springs that are 8.5lbs/in that I was running two of on each corner for a while on the local track. Long straight into a huge table top. In order to downside it you had to hit it pretty hard, but because of the face of the jump, the nose would take a chunk out of it if it was sprung any less stiff. So use the jumps to gauge, go on and get a set of each color of spring, and don't be afraid to mix and match colors on each corner to get it how you want it. A favorite generic combination of pretty much everyone's is one red and one gold on each corner. And as long as you have the factory shocks, stick with 45 weight, 50 max, or you'll blow the caps off. To my taste, 45 is perfect, so it's probly a good starting point for you.

2mcgrath
12-03-2005, 12:47 PM
i went with the 40 series bowties..i got a good deal on a barely used set at my lhs..i gave $50 bucks for them..the tires look like new..they are on velocity wheels.going to the track next week.and get some practice in..bad thing is my lhs is out of springs for the gt..so im stuck with stock springs untill they get some more in..what oil do you guys think i should use with the stock springs untill i get the others..

Cotharyus
12-04-2005, 07:28 AM
45 or 50 weight tops if you're looking at big jumps, anything more than 50 will start to blow caps off of the stockers.

Monsterbrad
12-04-2005, 03:06 PM
my stock springs are shot after a year of heavy use!!!
They don't even lift the truck up at all.
:D
Time for something new
I was looking at the aluminum ones from associated with gold springs but this won't be till the spring still working on that tranny that blew last week.
it free wheels at the spur gear !!!!
Any ideas what is wrong here guys before i tear it all down?????????????????????????????????????????????? ???????

fuzzy2133
12-05-2005, 11:28 PM
take the tranny apart slowly. the only downs fall with the tranny is it is a little more complex with the spur gear parallel with the center drive lines.

Monsterbrad
12-06-2005, 06:23 PM
I will something is blown though
I will get to it here soon
Still messin with racing the truggy a little and fixing other things
Need new body and new tranny gears.
I may just pick up the entire thing off ebay and bolt it in :D
who knows

2mcgrath
12-07-2005, 08:03 PM
guys im looking for a steering servo in the $40 to $50 range...which do you guys think i should get.the truck will be used for racing and it has 40 series bowties.i was thinking about the hitec hs645mg what do you guys think..i would like something that has enough torque to get the job done and i would like it to have a decent transit time

Cotharyus
12-07-2005, 08:17 PM
It's over the price range you're looking at, but you can't beat the Airtronics 94359. Strong and fast.

metalry101
12-08-2005, 12:28 AM
IMO the best servo in that price range (or actually just a touch over) is the Hitec 5645MG. Hitec servos aren't the greatest, but they're not bad, and the 5645 is digital, strong, decently quick, and warrantied for 2 years. That's pretty hard to beat for the price.

Monsterbrad
12-08-2005, 05:57 PM
what is the speed in the Hitec though
some speed is nice to have especially for racing!

metalry101
12-08-2005, 07:52 PM
168 oz/in at .18 seconds plus digital precision.

2mcgrath
12-08-2005, 09:28 PM
that sounds pretty decent..yeah im looking for one that wont break the bank.but will have pretty good performance

wishmasstir
12-09-2005, 02:44 PM
i recently picked up a mgt and i was thinking of getting another as a roller to do a brushless conversion but i was wondering if anyone has tried this yet or has any links/pics of one that was done. thanks

Monsterbrad
12-09-2005, 04:32 PM
that servo will work very nicely in this truck.
Its a little slow though not alot just a little.
Lots of torque is what is needed for this and other heavy trucks like it.

fuzzy2133
12-09-2005, 08:38 PM
i recently picked up a mgt and i was thinking of getting another as a roller to do a brushless conversion but i was wondering if anyone has tried this yet or has any links/pics of one that was done. thanks

by now some one has done it. run a search on google or yahoo for "brushless MGT" or some thing on those lines.

wishmasstir
12-09-2005, 09:40 PM
yeah i have been searching for it ... a few pages back i think on page 106 or around there someone said about doing it and another responded saying there have been some pictures of one going around this forum.

Monsterbrad
12-10-2005, 11:11 AM
anybody need a radio????
I have 2 xs3i's
and an xr3i
I will sell the xr3i for 30 bucks has no reciever or servo's
The xs I want 100 for it with a reciever
Waiting on the new tranny for my MGT
Snow running will be happening again soon.

2mcgrath
12-10-2005, 08:11 PM
the xr3i thats fm right?if so i would take it off your hands

slaf
12-10-2005, 09:50 PM
Check this site....

http://www.rc-monster.com/coppermine/thumbnails.php?album=38

Or try a search with google

Monsterbrad
12-11-2005, 09:49 AM
The xr3i and the xs are both FM 75mhz

McCoolidge
12-11-2005, 10:19 AM
I was thinking about buying a monster GT and was wondering, if i want to race, will a Monster GT work very well? I know they have some racers but will they stack up against a Revo?

2mcgrath
12-11-2005, 03:56 PM
from what i have heard they will hold their own with any of the other monster trucks for racing.

Monsterbrad
12-11-2005, 04:35 PM
You can race this truck but you have to quit a few things to it to make it race ready.
Just depends on how much you are willing to do to it.
Have you thought about truggy racing at all???

Brian23
12-16-2005, 08:26 PM
is around 430$(with tax) a decent price for the mgt 4.6 if i got it at my lhs

kurrz
12-16-2005, 08:32 PM
Yeah thats not bad at all. Online is a little cheaper but, it's good to support local business if the price is that competitive.

kurrz
12-16-2005, 08:33 PM
Plus it's so nice to walk out of the store with your purchase rather than wait for shipping.

Monsterbrad
12-16-2005, 09:49 PM
Can't agree more
I have to drive about an hour to get to the nearest walk in Hobby Shop that has the stuff that I need.
It is very cool to walk in buy what you want and leave.

Cotharyus
12-17-2005, 06:03 AM
Plus, you're supporting your LHS - which means they're more likely to be therer for you when you need that part right before the big race :)

Monsterbrad
12-17-2005, 09:06 AM
tranny problems are really pissing me off
The MGT is down with no drive not my real truck is having issues
:mad:

Cotharyus
12-17-2005, 08:32 PM
Well, you're the only person I know of that's broken the tranny on one of these things....congratulations.

smileyboy
12-17-2005, 10:31 PM
Well, you're the only person I know of that's broken the tranny on one of these things....congratulations.
You are not the only one. I too have brokem a Tranny. Not fun.

Cotharyus
12-18-2005, 06:40 AM
Heh. Wow, another one. Mind you I wasn't saying it couldn't be done, but it must have taken a heck of a beating to break.

Monsterbrad
12-18-2005, 08:23 AM
OH yes my truck has taken a %%%% of a beating.
I have only beat one truck harder then this one my gs and it bent the chassis into a u but still ran.
I have also bent the chassis on the MGT

fuzzy2133
12-18-2005, 11:31 AM
Monsterbrad - no offence man. Fix your tranny or stop complaining that it is broke! :rolleyes:

sadly when an engineer designs something they take into account what its life span will be at X stresses, that is what they settle on in the design and material. Think tyco and radio shack RC cars. :eek:

Monsterbrad
12-18-2005, 07:52 PM
I know I will fix it :D
Have to get my bitching in first :eek:

Cotharyus
12-19-2005, 06:03 AM
I know I will fix it :D
Have to get my bitching in first :eek:

*lol* - you've been bitching for three pages now! Hey, could I interest you in some Ti replacement parts when you rebuild that tranny?

Has anyone thought about Ti tranny parts?

Monsterbrad
12-19-2005, 04:49 PM
I was trying to get a tranny complete off ebay but I am not going to pay 80 bucks for it.
Plus I want the new 4.6 tranny if I just buy one.
Anybody tries the 528x novarossi engine????

kurrz
12-24-2005, 08:13 PM
Hey guys Merry Christmas. I just got to run my MGT today for awhile. It was a blast snow flying everywhere. One question though. I couldn't get it to stop stuttering on take off. My temps stayed steady around 230. What was I doing wrong? Too lean? Too rich? Top or bottom? Or anything else that could cause this? Thanks

ritchies rc10gt
12-24-2005, 11:47 PM
Well, you're the only person I know of that's broken the tranny on one of these things....congratulations.

i broke one.i bought a MGT from saboteur with the tranny in pieces.so i bought a new unused 4.6 tranny off ebay.i was told it was all metal gears.well iget the truck back together and running and it was fine the first day.then i ran it in the morningon the 2nd day and it was fine.i took it out again that night and blew the tranny.it would somewhat movein reverse but would move at all in forward.so i figured something was wrong with the gear selector.i took it apart to see what happened and found pieces of the PLASTIC second gear all over the place.only geas that are metal in the 4.6 tranny that arent metal in the .21 tranny is the top shaft gears.so i took the 2 speed gears that came with the truck and put those in it and its been fine.

i like this truck.i dont know wich is better yet my savage or the MGT.i like them both but i know my savage will take a hell of a beating,not sure about the MGT yet.

badboy2
12-25-2005, 12:02 AM
i prolly need new gears too.. coz no matter how i set the screw it wont shift too...

Monsterbrad
12-25-2005, 12:45 AM
Glad to hear that I am not the only one here with tranny problems :)
OH well

badboy2
12-25-2005, 01:54 AM
brad does yours doesnt shift too?the set screw on mine is already halfway out..anyone knows how many turns out from all the way in?

Cotharyus
12-25-2005, 06:36 AM
Wow, that's a trip. I'd heard about people having trouble with the second gear, but haven't heard about it in a while, I'd basicly written it off as people not putting the tranny back together right after putting in the FOC, because everyone I'd heard of with the second gear thing had a FOC in. Apparently, that's not the case :)

Monsterbrad
12-25-2005, 12:21 PM
Mine was shifting ok when it broke.
I did have to change it alot after the Mach 26 install and the new gearing.
It seems to shift kinda strange now and then but my truck has alot of super hard running on it and the Mach is just a good bit of power for it.
This truck is still a great basher though.
Just takes a ton of abuse.
I made it almost a year before anything major broke.
Just happened to be the tranny. :eek:

ritchies rc10gt
12-25-2005, 06:27 PM
i prolly need new gears too.. coz no matter how i set the screw it wont shift too...
are you sure your adjusting the right screw?when you look into the tranny gear you should see 2 screws inside the gear.1 is silver and 1 is black.you want to adjust the black one.the silver one holds the second gear clutch to the shaft and if its loose it will just spin on the shaft

ritchies rc10gt
12-25-2005, 06:30 PM
brad does yours doesnt shift too?the set screw on mine is already halfway out..anyone knows how many turns out from all the way in?


try 5 1/2 turns out.i just checked the one with the stripped gear and it 5 1/2 turns out from all the way in

nvrstsfd23
12-26-2005, 02:48 AM
What is the run time on a stock mgt

Cotharyus
12-26-2005, 06:46 AM
What is the run time on a stock mgt

Too many variables to give you a straight answer, but once it's broken in, you should get something like 10-12 minutes on a tank.

ritchies rc10gt
12-26-2005, 09:20 AM
Too many variables to give you a straight answer, but once it's broken in, you should get something like 10-12 minutes on a tank.


i get more than that on mine.i havent timed it yet to see exactly what i get but i know i get more than 12 minutes.my savage at full on race pace i get 17 minutes on the track before i gotta refuel.if im just buzzing/bashing around i get 20 minutes out of it

Monsterbrad
12-26-2005, 09:58 AM
I would say it's going to depend on many things also.
How much you are running it wide open what kind of surface you are running on and all that.
Around 10 to 15 minutes on the average I woulsd say.
Mine runs right aroung 15 with the Mach in it.

luvnitro
12-26-2005, 04:55 PM
What is your thoughts on putting a big block into an older MGT that had the .21? I was wondering if it would be hard on the tranny which has the plastic gears. Thanks for any advice. (I have an XTM 24.7 Pro engine to put in it)

Monsterbrad
12-26-2005, 07:48 PM
I would say no problems!
I have a Mach 26 in mine and it's good.
You may have tranny problems but Coth is still running his with I am not sure what engine but it's not stock and he runs his stuff pretty hard from what I can tell.
The XTM engine will make this thing rip pretty good
I would say change the gearing slightly.
17 tooth clutch bell
49 or somewhere near that spur.
that will have pretty much all around performance.
My Mach 26 runs awesome that way.
Have fun with your switch over.
I may also sugest the www.novaraceproducts.com
engine mount! :)

StrokerAce
12-26-2005, 08:14 PM
I haven't really been all that hard on my truck yet, but it's had a bad cart wheel or two. Anyway I lost one of the pins that hold the two axle halves together. They should arive tomorrow along with a forward only kit. I started to pull the truck down tonight and noticed the wheel wobbles a fair bit with the other half of the axle still holding it on the truck. If this part of the axle is bent my bearings will be prone to wear faster won't they? I should have made time to check the truck out better before I placed the order. I hate shipping charges. Guess I'll have to order a new set of shocks and a good set of springs and some oil to make it worth while. Maybe some bearings too just in case. I don't think I'm gonna let the truck sit while I'm off all week. Reccomendations on a good set of shocks for the 4.60 and a racing set of tires and wheels for Virginia red clay. The clay packs very hard when dry but is also very loose when jump faces and some turns are raked.

Happy holidays,
Mike

Cotharyus
12-26-2005, 08:47 PM
Your shock setup should be about the same for the 4.6 as it is for the original, you should do well with one red and one gold spring on each corner, and 40 or 45 weight oil. Much over 50 wt in the stock shocks, you'll start to blow caps off.

metalry101
12-26-2005, 10:24 PM
Your shock setup should be about the same for the 4.6 as it is for the original, you should do well with one red and one gold spring on each corner, and 40 or 45 weight oil. Much over 50 wt in the stock shocks, you'll start to blow caps off.
Ummm...not so much really. I jump a lot more than most people, but I didn't have any problems blowing the caps w/ the stock oil, which is what, 35 weight?

badboy2
12-27-2005, 01:38 AM
thanks ritchie ill try 5 1/2 turns out..

Cotharyus
12-27-2005, 06:04 AM
Ummm...not so much really. I jump a lot more than most people, but I didn't have any problems blowing the caps w/ the stock oil, which is what, 35 weight?

Trust me. If you go much over 50 wt with any sizable jumps, you'll start to blow caps off of the stock shocks. With 35 wt you should be able to drop it into the grand canyon without blowing any shock caps off. No promises on the rest of the truck though if you *do* try to drive it into the ditch.

slaf
12-27-2005, 01:11 PM
I raced my stock shocks with red/gold and 50wt oil with no problem but I'm not a big jump fan and I had no cap poping but I'm sure if you jump too high they will pop off.

The best shock upgarde is the Proline Powerstroke.. The will never pop off !

Monsterbrad
12-27-2005, 05:01 PM
I would like to get some power strokes :D
But they are kinda pricey.
I have beat the living hell outa my truck with the stock suspension and let me tell you I have had no shock issues at all.
I still have those stupid reservoir's on the stockers as well.
My stock springs well lets say have lost there spring ha ha
over haul is comming soon :eek:

metalry101
12-27-2005, 08:22 PM
Trust me. If you go much over 50 wt with any sizable jumps, you'll start to blow caps off of the stock shocks. With 35 wt you should be able to drop it into the grand canyon without blowing any shock caps off. No promises on the rest of the truck though if you *do* try to drive it into the ditch.
I think you misunderstood me. I blew the shock caps multiple times with the stock oil.

Cotharyus
12-28-2005, 06:05 AM
I think you misunderstood me. I blew the shock caps multiple times with the stock oil.
Oh! Now that I can believe. The bottom line is this: If you're going to beat on it, expect to blow a couple of shocks eventually. Good solutions include FT shocks (caps and bodies) and Power Stroke shocks.

turd-furgison
12-28-2005, 04:43 PM
hi, i have a question about the side mount exhaust header... i have a stock 4.60 se and got the ft side header for it but it doesnt seem to fit,, the opening on it seems to small to go on exhaust port(not sure if thats what its called).. well this header work with this engine? is there a different size gasket i can get to make it fit? thank for your time

metalry101
12-28-2005, 04:56 PM
hi, i have a question about the side mount exhaust header... i have a stock 4.60 se and got the ft side header for it but it doesnt seem to fit,, the opening on it seems to small to go on exhaust port(not sure if thats what its called).. well this header work with this engine? is there a different size gasket i can get to make it fit? thank for your time
I encountered the same problem with my HPI 4.6. Associated has finally released a header that should solve this problem. Tower doesn't even list it, but Horizon does. They're backordered until late next month, but the part number is ASC25433.

Monsterbrad
12-28-2005, 05:32 PM
I am not sure what the header looks like but try a Losi LST header gasket they are a little thinner then most and it is cheaper then buying another header.

turd-furgison
12-28-2005, 05:37 PM
thanks for your help guys

metalry101
12-28-2005, 05:42 PM
I am not sure what the header looks like but try a Losi LST header gasket they are a little thinner then most and it is cheaper then buying another header.
I don't think it'll help. I couldn't get any gasket to work w/ my HPI 4.6. In the end I just bought a THS exhaust. That header worked perfectly. Here's a link. (http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXCPX1&P=7)

slaf
12-28-2005, 07:33 PM
Does anybody use the FT Titanium turnbuckles ??? I'm rebuilding my truck and I notice that I bent 2 TI turnbuckles....

Same thing happened to you ???

Quad Racer
12-28-2005, 10:37 PM
I use them!

Cotharyus
12-29-2005, 05:34 AM
Does anybody use the FT Titanium turnbuckles ??? I'm rebuilding my truck and I notice that I bent 2 TI turnbuckles....

Same thing happened to you ???

I use the Hard Core Racing turnbuckles, but I've heard the FT's hold up pretty well. My big thing about the HCR stuff was the ends that came with them. They look and act just plain tough.

badboy2
12-29-2005, 08:31 AM
i have the ft turnbuckles too..theyre ok i guess,i never had a problem...

StrokerAce
12-29-2005, 02:14 PM
Umm, I forgot to locktite the screw that holds the starting coupler on the motor. Man I feel stupid. Anyway the pull starter has long been broke so now I can't get the truck to run. The whole assembly is not out of the question but I would rather just get the starting coupler if it's possible. Will AE sell me this single part? PN: 25353. It's for the 4.60.

Monsterbrad
12-29-2005, 02:27 PM
They might you would have to call them.
I can say that I had the same problem with my header on my 4.6 when I was installing it in my truggy.
LST header gaskets work :D

astainback
12-30-2005, 03:35 PM
I lost that coupler before. AE did send me one before. I made sure that I loc-tited (is that a word??) the new one, and I ordered another spare.

Good luck.

Monsterbrad
12-30-2005, 05:22 PM
I lost all the pins in the drive shafts on all corners and the center ones.
but they are all replaced and its cool :D

StrokerAce
12-31-2005, 01:08 PM
I got up this morning and it is really nice outside. The starter coupling I lost is on order but I'm gonna put this nice day to use. Pulled the pull start housing off and found the end of the spring was broke. I bent the end of the remaining spring back over and got it about half way flat where it locks into the housing. Managed to get the spring to slip back in the little grove that holds it to the housing and makes the cord retract. Waiting for the thread lock to set up so I can see how long it'll last.

My little sister is bringing back some denatured alcohol, a gallon of wd-40, and some simple green when she comes back from town in a bit. I want to clean the head off before changing the plug, it's still pretty muddy in there. Tonight i'll clean it up real good before I start on the forward only conversion. Sure looks like it's gonna take a big chunk of steel out of the tranny.

The .28 motor that came on this thing was really starting to scream the other day in the parking lot of the track. She was leaned out pretty good though. The gearing is a little too high for the track it's self. It's hitting second right at the top of the big jump. I'm gonna put some smaller tires and wheels on the truck as soon as I decide which ones to go with. That'll help some, but will it be enough? Time will tell.

Brian23
12-31-2005, 02:48 PM
i went to my lhs today and got the mgt 4.6 and a hump pack :D the truck looks so big compared to my old 1/10 cen that i sold i hope ill have time 2 break it in this weekendd :D

StrokerAce
01-01-2006, 12:26 AM
The pull start is still holding. I went to the track and it was pretty muddy again. I got in a few laps till the truck started to act like it was coming out of gear in the truns, then down the straights. I pulled the spur gear off and the six little black slipper pegs were even with the spur gear. I'm not gonna question why... I had been considering the RR double disk slipper but I don't really like the metal spur gear. Can plastic spurs be modified to work with this setup? Anyone done this?

The MGT almost took out a kid today. :mad: I was on the stand warming the truck up talking with one of the guys at the track that was helpful when I first caught this bug. End of the second lap I come down the back straight and she feels ready to go. Roll through the S curve fairly well and into half of another S. At this point when you come out of the curve you better be on it because the jump is about a third of the way down the front straight. I've got her juiced watching to make sure she dosen't get sideways in the mud. Something tells me to look down the track and what do I see? A little kid 3 or 4 maybe, standing right smack in my landing spot on the down side ramp. I cut the wheels, locked up the breaks and started to pray. Luckily the kid and the truck came out ok. Why would any parent let a child this young wander over to a track of this nature that has a ten pound plus truck flying through the air without being right there with them. The slipper died a lap or two after that. I was ready to go by then anyway.

Happy New Year
Mike

Brian23
01-01-2006, 02:34 PM
so today was a bad day... i went to a lot to break in the new truck. i fueled it up put in the ignitor and was hitting the trigger on my drill. but it still didnt start. i took the plug out and tried a new one. bboth plugs didnt glow at all. So i took the front of the ignitor off because i thought the ignitor was making contact with the plug. but it was and the battery was charged 4 a good 11 hours. Since my ignitor is a yr old i guess its just gone bad or w/e. so i went to the lhs and it wasnt open b/c its new years, and i want to get this thing broken in before school stords on tuesday!!
Happy new year

Brian23
01-01-2006, 03:55 PM
beforre i start the truck how do i know if its in reverse?

turd-furgison
01-01-2006, 04:20 PM
whats a good starting point to set the adjusting collar on the factory team steering kit .. i have no clue where it should be at .... thanks

kurrz
01-01-2006, 04:23 PM
Look at what position the servo is in. It won't matter anyhow. Just don't gun before you know which direction it's going to go.

LD3Furious
01-01-2006, 06:27 PM
Get the F.O.C..no more "What drive is it in" worries :D

Brian23
01-01-2006, 06:56 PM
yea lol but what happens when im 2 lazy 2 get up and turn my truck around when its far away :( jk i found a picture in the manual and it shows it

2mcgrath
01-02-2006, 05:35 PM
anyone know if they make rpm axle carriers for the mgt?i cannot find any mine has slop in them and i would like to go to rpm ones.or if they dont make any would it be possiable to use rpm axle carriers for the tmaxx?

fuzzy2133
01-02-2006, 10:30 PM
http://www.rpmrcproducts.com/faq/AssocMGT.htm

that will take you the the FAQ on RPM's web site about fitting the t-maxx carriers onto the MGT.

LD3Furious
01-03-2006, 11:50 AM
Anyone ever have the stock .28 modded? Im debating sending it out to RBMods or selling mine and buying a NR 528 or something like that. If no one has had their stock .28 modded, I might just do that anyway and will post results at a later time.

MikeWz
01-03-2006, 07:21 PM
Hey guys! It's been a long time. I've been having internet and car problems, so I haven't really been around lately. Happy new year to everyone!

I miss anything particularly special?

Brian23
01-06-2006, 04:56 PM
so today i went to brake in my mgt 4.6 it took like 10 min to fire it up (i gues bbecause it was cold ) but when it fired up it started moving maybe liek 1/2 throttle? maybe more, so i jumped and grabbed the rear bumper and then pinched the fuel line. i knew my reciever and transmiter were on becaues i checked to make sure they worked. so im guesing it was the th trim. so i asjusted it and it only changed it slightly so t still started to run away so i pinched the line and i went home for the day

Brian23
01-06-2006, 04:57 PM
im gonna see if hte lhs could hepl me out b/c idont want it 2 start and have a runaway... but does anyone have advice in the mean time?

2mcgrath
01-06-2006, 11:40 PM
thanks for the tip

2mcgrath
01-06-2006, 11:42 PM
take the servo horn loose and recenter the servo with radio trim on 0,also check your idle

fuzzy2133
01-07-2006, 11:30 AM
you may also have to adjust the collars on the throttle and brake rods.

Brian23
01-07-2006, 02:03 PM
so i think it was just the TH trim so i took off the air filter 2 set it so the carb had aboiut 1.5 mm opening- i was out 4 an hour today and only got 3/4 of a tank in break in is no fun lol, im guesing the truck is REALLY rich beause it liked to stall alot. THe reason i was out there for so long was because i would start up the engine and then it would die out. But after it didd that about 30 times it would run for a coouple of minuets and then die. Ill be out tommorow trying again though :D

Brian23
01-07-2006, 02:04 PM
when i said it would die out i ment when i took off the ignittor

marctroy
01-07-2006, 03:41 PM
Can someone please tell the the proper stock assembled lengths for all the turnbuckles on the MGT? The one I'm adding FT Turnbuckles to didn't even come with stock ones so I could match them up....

StrokerAce
01-07-2006, 04:28 PM
Ok I put a new spring combo on the MGT along with 40 velocity/bowties, a new pipe, foc and the rrp double disk slipper. The slipper is still slipping heavily after 2 tanks so far. How longs does it take to break in one of thiese things? The red pads don't appear to have any marks from slipping but the truck will not even pull a slight incline (anything that's not level). Man I really wanna go fart around at the track tomorrow. I think this baby's gonna really scream now. I just gotta get it to move liike it used to.

After the FOC when I was putting the trannly back together, this gear (PN 25028) looked like it would have been up in the corner all by it's self. So I left it out could this be the problem?

Mike

2mcgrath
01-08-2006, 12:54 AM
no i also left that gear out when installing my foc..no need for that gear anymore that i seen.and my truck does fine without it.

astainback
01-08-2006, 04:00 AM
You took out a gear that the instructions don't tell you to take out??

LD3Furious
01-08-2006, 05:31 AM
I just did the same on mine yesterday. From the instructions, it looks like it is supposed to stay in, but the shaft won't fit if you keep it there, so I left it out and while I havn't driven it, I think it is going to be ok.

http://csgbenefits.org/mgt/foc_tranny_issues.htm#FOC%20Installation%20Issues

I used this page as a guideline. If you look closely at the diff half on the right in the third pic, you'll see that the gear is omitted. Also, as suggested, I rotated the assembly by hand after it was put back together and everything was smooth.

MikeWz
01-08-2006, 09:50 AM
Stroker - Do the RRP instructions say you need to "break in" the slipper set-up? I've never heard of having to break in a slipper before. Sounds like you need to tigthen the nut down a little bit, that'll be how you adjust the slipper. If it's slipping too much, tighten it down. Not slipping enough, loosen it up a bit.

LD3Furious
01-08-2006, 02:02 PM
MarcTroy-
My front toe links, measured with a digi vernier caliper, are approx. 128mm or 5.05". The rear links are approx. 145mm or 5.75". Hope this helps get you in the right direction.

Brian23
01-08-2006, 02:36 PM
today i did the second tank of fuel and the truck only stalled once. I gave less than 1/2 throttle and eased in and out like the manual says, and about 1/2 way throught the second tank the truck seemed to acelerating smoother and it went faster at 1/4 throttle that it did at the start of the tank. sorry if this post is kinda useless im just thought i would share how my break in is going
Brian

StrokerAce
01-08-2006, 04:41 PM
The instructions on the RRP slipper say the following

"Adjusting clutch: Tighten adjusting nut untill snug. Back off nut counter clockwise about 1/4 turn. After some use , (Pads breaking in) readjusting nut looser will be needed."

My take on the wording of this is that the clutch will slip a little more than usual at first. That was the breaking in I was talking about. The slipper isn't the problem unfortunatly. I tore back into the tranny a few minutes ago. I started pulling down the two speed assembly. When I pulled the two speed gears off the shaft I was rewarded with a hand full of needle pins. It looks as if the two speed one way is shot. Guess I'm gonna buy a whole new tranny from ebay so I have a few extra parts like new case, plastic gears, bearings, shafts, pins and anything else i'm forgetting.

My new question is what would make this one way go so quick? From the first day I ran the truck it has mainly been here at the house. I live on the side of a mountain. Yard, driveway, road, everything is a hill. Could the stress of going up and down the hills while shifting played factor in this?

She's gonna scream when I get her working right,
Mike

PS. The hpi ringed pipe for the savage ss is very loud. :D My ears ring for a few minutes after I come inside. The few neighbors I have are really gonna like me when I get home from work at 3:30 am and find a new tranny waiting. You know I'm gonna have to see if that fixed everything. :D

2mcgrath
01-08-2006, 07:32 PM
how does the ringed pipe work out for you..im thinking of switching pipes.im running the savage 28 engine in my gt works great

Monsterbrad
01-08-2006, 08:37 PM
I finally got to my truck today and discovered the chassis is junk and the tranny problem that I posted about a while ago was my reverse lever.
It was stuck between forward and reverse.
So that was cool.
Now the change over to the new chassis and some other new parts.
THis hobby is getting crazy for me :D

LD3Furious
01-08-2006, 09:16 PM
That brings up an interesting Q. The blue, factory chassis...is it primarily bling factor, or is it really stronger/lighter, etc? Any input appreciated. Thx

ritchies rc10gt
01-08-2006, 09:47 PM
i put the blue chassis on mine.it looked exactly like the stock chassis except it was blue and better looking

ritchies rc10gt
01-08-2006, 09:48 PM
actually it had some small machined "triangle shaped things down the side of it,i dont see how the reduced much if any wieght from it

Cotharyus
01-09-2006, 06:05 AM
The weight reduction on the FT chasis is 1.9 oz. I did my own work on my chasis, and knocked almost that much off it. Anyone who has been on these boards for a while will tell you I've done a lot of work to lighten my truck up, while spending as little money doing it as possible, and I've taken a lot of weight off.

So brad - how'd you trash your chasis man? I mean - I bent the crap out of my front skid once, but ...trash one of these chasis? What were you doing, driving it in the parking lot of a busy truckstop?

MikeWz
01-09-2006, 09:54 AM
Yeah man....tweaking one of these chassis has gotta be a chore. I'd be interetsed to hear how that one happened

Rich - I have the blue chassis. Is it stronger? Probably not with all the machining that was done. Is it weaker? If it is, it's definitely not noticeable because I've hit all kinds of things (including a concrete barrier the other day). It definitely looks really good, and I can feel the weight difference just by holding them in opposite hands

Monsterbrad
01-09-2006, 05:39 PM
Well lets see here
I can start off last winter about this time when I got the truck.
Jumping snow piles launching the truck over my head and landing it on the road. I think that's what pushed the steering mounting rods through the chassis.
The rear of the chassis where the engine is sitting the chassis is all bent there too.
THis happens when you land from 5ft plus in the air up side down trying to back flip at the Local Monster Truck show off a skate board ramp.
So yeah I pound this truck a little.
Can't wait to get it going again and now that the tranny is good ( i hope)
It won't be long.
Ha ha
Gotta love monster trucks!!!!

StrokerAce
01-10-2006, 03:16 AM
I wish I could say for sure how the hpi pipe works, but I can't. I'm waiting on tower to send me a one way for the two speed. I can say it's much louder more grunt sound to it. The truck wanted to pull a wheelie when it went from 1st to 2nd with the two speed slipping. That might have just been from the high RPM when the one way finally died. I'll let ya know and post some pictures soon.

ritchies rc10gt
01-10-2006, 09:44 AM
i dont know if its stronger,weaker,lighter,heavier than stock but it sure does look good.thats the only reason i got it plus i got for $70.00 with shipping off ebay.

Monsterbrad
01-10-2006, 04:50 PM
This is one truck that is tried and true in my mind.
Makes me want to add a good old rc 10 GT to the pack with an os 18 in it.
I have pounded the hell outa this truck and it has not given me too many problems considering the amount of abuse it has taken.
All I can say is
www.slapmafro.com
they show how hard I have beat this truck!

Brian23
01-10-2006, 05:39 PM
finished breakin in my engine and got about 6 tanks... seemed to be getting a bit hot once i leaned it out, wishin i had a temp gauge :/

astainback
01-10-2006, 05:42 PM
I asked those slapmafro guys about running the MGT and they said that they have enough trucks already. I wish they would have gotten one instead of the genesis or LST.

adrian

MikeWz
01-10-2006, 06:11 PM
Went bashing with two of my friends yesterday and was yet again impressed with the durability of this truck. We got to a local sand "mine" to bash there. It's behind a hotel so, so we set-up in the hotel parking lot. It starts right at the end of the road to the hotel, it drops down about 20ft or so from the road to the "field of sand" and drops off at about a 45 degree angle. Well, they were already down there, and I decided I was done drifting in the lot and I'd go down there too. So, I gun the throttle and go between the two concrete barrieries that block the end of the road. Now, being the slant is at a 45 degree angle, and me standing a good 100ft or so away from the edge, I can't see what's down the hill. I start to go down the hill at about 30mph, loose site of the truck and about 2 seconds later hear an exteremely loud SMACK! Both the guys cringed so I figured I busted my truck hard...but it was still running and driving. I can't really describe how big the rock was that I hit...but it was probably a solid 100lbs or so....and it was all wet. Stopped the truck and saw my fuel line was disconnected. Took the body off to reconect the line and discovered that my fuel tank had pretty much exploded on impact. There were little pieces of tank pretty much everywhere. I then noticed my air filter had completely disasembled itself and flew off as well. The only damage I had taken after a 30mph impact with a rock that wouldn't have even budged if the three of us had tried to move it...was a broken tank and air filter.
I know this story probably doesn't even make sense via text....but I'll post some pictures of the carnage

Brian23
01-10-2006, 06:45 PM
if u didnt hit the tank how did u break it?

Flying Finn
01-11-2006, 09:59 AM
Are there any good tuned pipes that would work with MGT and Associated's side exhaust set? It just seems that the stock muffler is so short that it's hard to fit in any other pipes,am i right?

astainback
01-11-2006, 11:05 AM
The fantom exhaust works great.

Check ebay for it. A guy there sells it for 25 bucks.

adrian

Brian23
01-11-2006, 04:10 PM
i have a question. You know how the stock airfilter has to sets of foam on in. Well I was cleaing it and i left it on my desk and the ppl that clean my house threw it out. So i was wondering if I can use just the one part of the filter and not the part that goes over top of it.

Monsterbrad
01-11-2006, 05:02 PM
The pre filter is what you are talking about.
I think you can get them but I am not sure if associated sells them.
I know Losi has them for the LST filters and they are pretty much a universal fit.
Check
www.horizonhobby.com

Brian23
01-11-2006, 05:43 PM
im not worried about getting a new one i can pick them up at my lhs, but in the mean time can i run without the pre filter by using just the other foam under it

fuzzy2133
01-11-2006, 08:18 PM
yes you can run with out the pre-filter. the second filter that has the oil on it, will just get pluged up sooner since it is catching all the dust and dirt now.

Brian23
01-12-2006, 12:42 PM
you know how in the back of the truck there is 2 body clips there is some sore of clamp for the body to stay on? Well it looks like i could flip the thing over on the body posts so i didnt have to use the clamp and i could use 2 body clips on the back like i do in the front.

Flying Finn
01-12-2006, 01:13 PM
The fantom exhaust works great.

Check ebay for it. A guy there sells it for 25 bucks.

adrian
Thanks,but is there any good pipes that would be available from Towerhobbies? I wouldn't like to buy stuff from eBay.......

nvrstsfd23
01-12-2006, 05:22 PM
what temp does it need to be outside to do the break in. I hope I didn't mess up its been in the 50's or so. I did it like it said with the spit test and the engine was getting hot and seemed to go alright.

also when it hits any small jump the back end want to come over the front whats the easiest way to fix this.

and where is the best place to cut the holes in the body for cooling

Brian23
01-12-2006, 06:04 PM
didnt make a whole new thread for that question already?

fuzzy2133
01-12-2006, 11:41 PM
you know how in the back of the truck there is 2 body clips there is some sore of clamp for the body to stay on? Well it looks like i could flip the thing over on the body posts so i didnt have to use the clamp and i could use 2 body clips on the back like i do in the front.

Yes you can use 2 body clips over the clamp. the clap is nice however body pins are more secure for those of us who can go a little over board when driving. :D

Cotharyus
01-13-2006, 06:02 AM
Yep - like fuzzy said, you can do that. I went a step further in my search for security and weight reduction, and pulled the roll bar off (hey, my truck mostly stays on it's wheels when it's on the ground) and the two pivot bars the body mounts on from the factory, and dropped it down and mounted it directly on the posts coming out of the shock towers. Lower and lighter.

Brian23
01-13-2006, 11:11 PM
cotharyus... my truck is opposite yours my trucks wheels are never on the ground, theyy are either in the air or my truck is on its lid.. i lost the damn screw tat holds on the rollbar/handle. It was one that i didnt loctite. i never thought that1 would come out

LD3Furious
01-14-2006, 12:45 AM
Coth...could you post a pic of how you have the mounts set, body off? Thx :)

Cotharyus
01-14-2006, 06:40 AM
http://wilderness.homeip.net/cotharyus/pictures/thumbnails.php?album=1


Pictures. The first two in the gallery give you a good view of both the front and rear shock towers with the body off. If you look closely at that gallery, there are a lot of sneaky little things going on with my truck to make it lighter and faster :) Enjoy.

Monsterbrad
01-14-2006, 01:26 PM
Well the truck is under way!
The repairs are being made when this thing is done it will be all new again.
Then ebay!
I have something new in mind.
:D

astainback
01-14-2006, 01:45 PM
Well the truck is under way!

The repairs are being made when this thing is done it will be all new again.
Then ebay!
I have something new in mind.
:D


Are you completely getting out of the MGT??

Are you mad??

StrokerAce
01-15-2006, 03:36 PM
I've enjoyed the time i've had with my MGT greatly. I've also enjoyed watching my dad want to play with it but never ask too. He had a birthday recently and I've been having a hard time picking out a present for him. Finally decided last night that I'd grab him a MGT! Hope he'll like it. :D

It's the old version with the ae .21, so i'm gonna use it as a test platform to help decide what motor to replace my ae .28 when the time comes. I'm also thinking about crafting my own FOC.

On a side note, It's looking like I'm gonna have to do some mud guard/battery box cutting cutting to get the HPI ringed pipe to work with the side exhaust header on my truck. I think the battery box is gonna get eliminated. I picked up 2 1100mah nimh flat packs. I'm figuring on just changing out packs after each heat, and using the 969 super brain to get the charge back quickly. We'll see.

Mike

Brian23
01-15-2006, 05:58 PM
everytime i start my mgt it starts up but i have to hold down the throttle a bit for a min. so t doesnt stall what shall i do

fishstix
01-15-2006, 06:10 PM
Will the throttle, battery and steering servo leads plug right into the specktrum module? I was going to use my JR system but the leads are not a direct plug in. I really don't like to clip wires and make new ones to fit unless it is a necessary. I have not had much luck doing stuff like that with out running into problems.

StrokerAce
01-16-2006, 02:33 AM
Will the throttle, battery and steering servo leads plug right into the specktrum module? I was going to use my JR system but the leads are not a direct plug in. I really don't like to clip wires and make new ones to fit unless it is a necessary. I have not had much luck doing stuff like that with out running into problems.

The plugs on my mgt's stock servos were a direct fit for the spektrum rx.

badboy2
01-16-2006, 11:13 AM
im havin problems with my tranny again..i changed the 2speed clutch hub ..and it shifted once after that it wont shift again..i was goin to adjust the screw but then the clutch hub wont turn when i turn my wheels to line it up on the hole..what could be the problem?

fuzzy2133
01-16-2006, 08:50 PM
everytime i start my mgt it starts up but i have to hold down the throttle a bit for a min. so t doesnt stall what shall i do

As long as it only happens when the engine is cold I would not worry about it since the engine does not run that cold all the time. if it really bothers you adjust the trim on the radio to open the throttle or increase the idle speed. I would use the trim personally.

Monsterbrad
01-17-2006, 04:02 PM
Are you completely getting out of the MGT??

Are you mad??
Nope not at all.
I like the truck I am just so much into truggy racing I have no need for this truck anymore.
Anybody want a roller
I will sell it as it sits with the new chassis and radio gear for 200 bucks or offer.

astainback
01-20-2006, 11:24 PM
Check it out guys.

I finally got a flag body inmint condition!!!

It still has the plastic on the roof!!

Also, I have a MGT 4.60 SE now. I traded a hardly broken in Revo (that I got a crazy deal on) for it. It only has 3 tanks run on it. It is the MGT with the red and white crowd pleaser on it. It is mint.

http://home.earthlink.net/~astainback/images/WorkBench%201-17-06.jpg

Monsterbrad
01-21-2006, 01:00 PM
astainback???
You need a parts truck.
I have one for ya cheap
let me know make me an offer
I have a brand new chassis the truck as a roller and some extra parts.
It's pretty beat and I just don't have the time or the funds to rebuild the entire thing.
150.00 bucks for the entire deal.
Comes with a newer hitec steering servo and a HPI throttle servo.
If nobody wants it on here I am going to ebay it.

astainback
01-21-2006, 11:07 PM
I appreciate it but I have 2 complete trucks and a ton of spares. I have a tackle box full and another plastic bin full of ae screws and do-dads.

thanks though!

Monsterbrad
01-22-2006, 08:25 PM
well someone will buy it
racing is draining me :eek:

davetexas22
01-22-2006, 08:51 PM
This has probably been posted before but I was just curious what it would take to get the Mgt to be a racer. or good setups. I would mostly be competing in the standard monster truck class. I have had the Revo in the past and just wanted something different than everybody else.

astainback
01-22-2006, 09:08 PM
Racing.. in this order...

Smaller race tires (bowties or crime fighters)
FOC
slightly stiffer springs (not to stiff)

after that, the folks on here will have to chime in

LD3Furious
01-22-2006, 10:21 PM
http://csgbenefits.org/mgt/

http://stc007rc.com/MGTFORUM/index.php

davetexas22
01-23-2006, 08:06 AM
Great sites

Thanks

http://csgbenefits.org/mgt/

http://stc007rc.com/MGTFORUM/index.php

LD3Furious
01-23-2006, 09:33 AM
yw n good luck :)

StrokerAce
01-29-2006, 02:00 AM
I finally got my MGT back together friday night. Power strokes, extra firm spring set with ae 40w in both rears and front coil overs 30w that came with the shocks in the front bypasses (I think it works pretty good.) The shocks are definatly awsome. I loosened up the adjustment nuts on the coil overs all the way and scribed a mark in the center for adjustment purposes. Four full turns on the front and six on the back. 40 series bow ties on velocities. I mounted the savage ss ringed pipe to an AE side mount header using old exhaust deflector tubing as a header gasket. I got that idea from one of these boards. Then I removed the switch from the battery box and mounted the stock exhaust hanger into the top screw hole for the switch and hooked it to the pipe after marking and hacking on the mud guard to make room. It's a sweet fit. I just need to shorten the screw about 1/4" or so. Threw a 1100 mah hump pack in to the battery box tucking the switch inside aswell. Works good so far. RRP double disk slipper and ofna 16t hardened/vented CB. Geared too low even for the small tracks I run on but I still have a 17t and 18t to work with, so it'll be ok. FOC really woke up the acceleration. When I got home tonight I found a set of GPM f & r gear boxes with gear box tighteners and braces had finally arived. I've been waiting on those to shim the diffs and install the FT steering upgrade kit as well. Gonna see what kind of shims I can get the boy on the laser at work to cut out for me. Why buy it if you can make it right? Work has gotten real slack right now so I think I'm gonna paint up a crowd pleazer for the old girl one night this week. I'll get some pictures up soon.

Mike

LD3Furious
01-29-2006, 08:18 AM
Sounds like a sweet deal. Im also in the process of "re" building a new MGT. Got mine as a Christmas present and tore it down immediately. Still waiting on a few things to arrive before I reassemble it and run.
AE Blue Chassis
AE Blue Alum Bellcrank
AE brake disc upgrade
AE F.O.C
GPM Diff Cases w/collars
GPM Engine Mount
GPM Blue, vented flywheel
Powerstrokes
Crime Fighters/Velocity Wide Maxx
23MM Hex adapters
Nitromonkey.com screw kit to replace the Philips heads
RRP dual disc slipper kit
Kyosho 1.1 clutch springs on stock shoes ( In the future, I will likely convert to TTR S3 or AE TC3 style clutch...much easier to work on.)
Mugen Diff Fluid 10k F/50k R
Gonna send the stock .28 out to be modded. Not sure how much of a difference Ill get, but I figure $100 for that is better than trying to sell it stock, maybe get $75 if Im lucky, then spending $200-300 more for another engine.
Avid RC bearings throughout
RCMart.com special Tower Pro MG995 steering servo ( See my "repot card" in another thread) on Steering and for now, Hitec HS-925 on Throttle
Im sure there's more....all I can think of at the moment.

fishstix
01-29-2006, 11:33 AM
I would like to know how to mount the crowd pleaser on my mgt. I would like a top view if possible because I would like to see how you did the cut out for the engine head. Did you cut just enough for the glow plug? or cut so where the engine head sticks out? Also what body posts are you using with this body? Thanks in advance.

metalry101
01-29-2006, 01:08 PM
I would like to know how to mount the crowd pleaser on my mgt. I would like a top view if possible because I would like to see how you did the cut out for the engine head. Did you cut just enough for the glow plug? or cut so where the engine head sticks out? Also what body posts are you using with this body? Thanks in advance.
Here are a couple pics showing how mine is mounted.

http://img480.imageshack.us/img480/4378/mgt221cg.jpg

http://img480.imageshack.us/img480/424/mgt233pm.jpg

Brian23
01-29-2006, 02:22 PM
It seems im gonna start with the hopups on my mgt, so does anyone have any suggestions of what too get and why to get it?
Brian

wrecked
01-29-2006, 04:17 PM
Does anyone know the best or good ways to put a throttle return spring on a picco 26 carb?
thanks,
wrecked

LD3Furious
01-29-2006, 04:26 PM
Brian, check out post 3180...read the info on the csgbenefits link.

ArcadeFire
01-29-2006, 07:29 PM
hey guys,

I just broke in my new MGT 4.6 and it is running great but when the truck is at idle or low speed I hear a popping/rapapapapapaparappapapapa sound lol. The truck is running good temp for this time of year 260F and its like 36-45F outside, so my question is this sound normal or is it an exhaust or drivetrain problem.

Jeff Cain
01-29-2006, 11:42 PM
Sounds like too lean of a low-speed setting. Try richening up the bottom end screw 1/4 turn CCW and see if that helps.

Brian23
02-05-2006, 09:38 AM
i tool off what looked like the spur gear today.... it is the 52 tooth black gear that looks like it meshes with the pinion.. but when i took it off there was not another gear there.... ive heard my truck hit second but shouldnt there be 2 spurs? or is that not hte spur gear? And little black things fell out of the gear and now there is a ring off holes around it

ritchies rc10gt
02-05-2006, 09:41 AM
yes thats the spur gear.the 2 speed gears are inside the transmission.and you need those little pin things that fell out of the gear.those are the friction pegs for the slipperclutch.

Brian23
02-05-2006, 10:20 AM
oh ok good thing i asked because i just left them out... ill put them back in :-D thanks for the reply

Chevy-SS
02-05-2006, 07:25 PM
Here's a page on MGT shifting issues:
http://csgbenefits.org/mgt/foc_tranny_issues.htm

Should help you out.............

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Chevy-SS
02-05-2006, 07:27 PM
hey guys,

I just broke in my new MGT 4.6 and it is running great but when the truck is at idle or low speed I hear a popping/rapapapapapaparappapapapa sound lol. The truck is running good temp for this time of year 260F and its like 36-45F outside, so my question is this sound normal or is it an exhaust or drivetrain problem.

When it's cold like that, you really gotta richen the mixture. Here's a great site for power tuning: http://www.rchobbies.org/cars_eng-tuning.htm

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stonesavage
02-05-2006, 07:41 PM
astainback???
You need a parts truck.
I have one for ya cheap
let me know make me an offer
I have a brand new chassis the truck as a roller and some extra parts.
It's pretty beat and I just don't have the time or the funds to rebuild the entire thing.
150.00 bucks for the entire deal.
Comes with a newer hitec steering servo and a HPI throttle servo.
If nobody wants it on here I am going to ebay it. ANY PICS?? I'm very interested.

Monsterbrad
02-06-2006, 03:58 PM
http://cm.ebay.com/cm/ck/1065-29296-2357-0?uid=10510077&site=0&ver=LCA080805&item=6033806259&lk=URL
It's on ebay right now!

MikeWz
02-08-2006, 08:47 PM
Any of you guys run the OS .30 here? Apparently there was some thread about some problem with it that got totally blown out of proportion. I want an unbias opinion. Honestly I can't see OS making anything bad

Cotharyus
02-09-2006, 06:12 AM
Supposedly it has a bearing problem. Now, I've talked to a couple of guys that have them, and know people that have them - I'm talking mostly hard core racers here. This is what it boils down to. One guy I know personally who races hard and plays hard has one that he hasn't had any trouble with - but it's a play engine for him, and he's not leaning it out to get the last little bit out of it with a fuel that runs 8% oil. The other guy was using it as a race engine. He got about two gallons through it, leaned way out using 8% oil before the bearings went away. The other guy has almost 4 gallons through it, says it doesn't *need* to leaned out like that, and say's it's a blast. The overall consensus among the people I talk to seems to be that it's fine, as long as you don't try to squeeze every last drop out of it with nothing-for-oil fuel. Does this indicate a problem? I say no. The guy I know who made his bearings go away says this often has to be expected, and while it isn't really a problem, reminds me to remember how hard I pushed, for instance my OS RG with 8% oil fuel, and that when it finally went away, it was because it ingested 19 laps worth of dirt. Not because of a lack of oil. In response, I would say look at the power being made. Remember, when you make that much more power, you're creating that much more punishment. Personally, I like the engine.

--
Cotharyus

Race the Maxxtrack:

http://maxxtrack.homeip.net

MikeWz
02-09-2006, 11:51 AM
Yeah that's pretty much how I was feeling too. It's not unusual for a race motor to get 3 gallons or even less when tuned for max performance. I'll almost definitely be getting one of these, but unfortunately I'll probably have to wait untill summer because I just bought a helicopter which sucked the wallet dry.

Cotharyus
02-09-2006, 08:43 PM
I heard that. I like watching helicoptors, but I can't bring myself to get into them. Something about watching a guy who is widely known as the best instructor in middle TN do in a set of $150 main rotor blades while hovering just off the ground trying to explain something to a student....it was a breath of wind. I mean, you could sort of feel it go past, but man it did a quick number on rolling that bird over.

--
Cotharyus

Race the Maxxtrack:
http://maxxtrack.homeip.net

metalry101
02-09-2006, 11:24 PM
We've sold probably 8 of those O.S. .30's, and I have yet to see a single one come back with any problems whatsoever. Rough break-in, can't get it tuned, pull start broke...nothing. Not one complaint at all.

Cotharyus
02-10-2006, 08:34 PM
Nice...Like I said, everyone seems to think they're good engines that I've talked to. Some have killed them, but have up front said that they were tweaking them hard when it happened. Honestly, they guys I know and know of that have this engine and have messed up this engine know exactly what they're doing, and don't expect them to last forever.

fishstix
02-12-2006, 01:03 PM
I bought the spektrum RX and wanted to know if I still need to plug the receiver pack into the aux slot or should I plug into the battery slot?

Also is there a head protector for the mgt se motor? I took off the roll bar to mount a different body and the head sticks out a little bit from the body and don't want to dmg it on a rollover.

LD3Furious
02-12-2006, 01:19 PM
I dunno for sure, but I doubt the Specktrum uses B.E.C circuitry. If I am correct, then you do not need to use the aux slot, the bat slot will be fine. If Im wrong, you'll have to use the aux slot to get the full voltage of the Rx pack. You'll have to either read your manual or maybe post on the Spektrum forum to find out for sure. As for the head, Ofna makes some protectors you could try but if not, then use zipties, one for each screw hole around the top fin. Be sure to get heavy duty ties and you will be good.

metalry101
02-12-2006, 05:14 PM
The battery slot should be fine. I believe the Spektrum Rx's will put full voltage and amps (up to like 9.6 volts) straight through to the servos, so don't worry about bypassing the BEC.

fishstix
02-14-2006, 10:16 PM
What 1/8 scale wing can be attached to the rear shock tower of the mgt? I don't mind drilling if I have to but thought there would be a better choice so I would not have to do much cutting.

I have been invited to oval race my mgt in St Joe MO on the 18th of March(that is if the weather gets warmer up there). What should I do to make it handle the best? Should I run stiffer springs all around the right side and softer springs on the left? (Not much road race experience..just like to watch the nascar). I know I'm going to lower it to get lower CG. I will be running the road rage from proline. I will also be changing my spur gear. I was thinking about going to a 48 Tooth. Any helf would be appreciated.

metalry101
02-15-2006, 12:02 AM
I'd go for some wider rims and get the truck on the deck. Seriously, I'd probably pick up some of these (http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXAFJ3&P=0) or these. (http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXAFJ4&P=0)

MikeWz
02-16-2006, 09:06 PM
Sweet deal. So I'll probably pick one up this summer

I hear ya on the expenses man. Helicopters are definitely far more expensive. I thought I was getting in cheap and doing up a "micro" electric. Turns out the packs are insanely expensive at about $100 a piece, and apparently the charger I had ain't gonna cut it either so there goes another $100. And forget about when I get better and need to bring weight down. $120 for a CF frame frame, another $30 for a CF boom...more batterys...$100 blades. Yeah you know how it goes

metalry101
02-16-2006, 10:17 PM
Sweet deal. So I'll probably pick one up this summer

I hear ya on the expenses man. Helicopters are definitely far more expensive. I thought I was getting in cheap and doing up a "micro" electric. Turns out the packs are insanely expensive at about $100 a piece, and apparently the charger I had ain't gonna cut it either so there goes another $100. And forget about when I get better and need to bring weight down. $120 for a CF frame frame, another $30 for a CF boom...more batterys...$100 blades. Yeah you know how it goes
What kind of micro helicopter is that???

If you're wanting to get into small electric heli's w/o spending a ton of cash, check out the E-flite Blade CX or CP. The CX is $30 cheaper and considerably easier to fly, but doesn't have nearly the potential that the CP does. It does have a Li-po battery, charger, counter-rotating blades for maximum stabilty, and no tail rotor. We've sold a ton of them and people have been very, very satisfied. They can break of course, so stock up on inner shafts (EFLH1212) and the rotors (EFLH1220 and EFLH1221). All of those parts are cheap though. It's only $190, and it flies very well.

If you're looking for more of a challenge, the CP has collective pitch, which means when you're ready to fly upside down and all that craziness, you only need to buy a better battery and an aerobatic enhancement kit ($25), not a new helicopter. It's a great setup and it's cheap to keep in the air. Main rotors are more than the CX's ($15), but are still cheap, and the training gear will help keep them intact longer.

I'm not trying to sell you anything really...I just don't want you to miss out on a really cool area of r/c just because you get bad information. You can most definately spend a ton of money on a nice helicopter, and that setup is a lot nicer, but these E-flite Blade helicopters do fly very well, and they're much cheaper. It's a lot like a racer saying the only worthwhile setup is a $2000 Jammin CRT w/ a high dollar Italian engine and an M11 w/ Spektrum and all that. Is it the best setup out there? You bet. Do you need anything even close to that to have fun? Not a chance.

MikeWz
02-16-2006, 11:42 PM
Haha, I know you're not trying to sell me anything. I actually had a Honey Bee CP2, which is exactly the same as the blade CP. I had a 3S LiPo pack, a Micro Razor V2 motor, an Align 25A ESC and they sent me a freakin 5A GWS ESC for the tail motor. Well, that burnt out real quick. I had nothing but problems. The head would bind, which is apparently a fairly popular problem. You have to get a metal swash. Then, with LiPo pack you've gotta worry about frying the tail motor. No dice. You can't really go very far on a Blade/Honey Bee CP anyway. Heli's like that can only do so much.
I've got an Align T-rex right now. It's eCCPM and fully capable of the 3D that you'll see guys on Fury's and Raptors and such doing. It's a really awesome machine. It's basically a scaled down 120CCPM version of a raptor. Real frame and all. I don't know if you've seen them before, but I'll get you a picture of it less electronics. It's the #1 micro electric heli right now. Things really sweet, they give you a whole lot of extras when you buy the kit, and the aftermarket is HUGE!

I'm not sure if you're into Heli's at all, but if somebody comes in to the shop and asks for a good beginner helicopter, point them to a Sceadu or a Raptor 30/50 and somebody who can help them set it up (and recommend they stop in at runryder.com). A blade CX doesn't really take you anywhere, and micro helis in general are really hard to learn on. Everyone I've ever asked has said to avoid the micros as the first heli. I learned to hover on an oldschool concept 30DX and took it a little farther with a Raptor 30V2. Now I've got this T-rex which is slightly larger than what you'd probably thing of as Micro (much bigger than the Blade CP).

metalry101
02-17-2006, 12:26 AM
Haha, I know you're not trying to sell me anything. I actually had a Honey Bee CP2, which is exactly the same as the blade CP. I had a 3S LiPo pack, a Micro Razor V2 motor, an Align 25A ESC and they sent me a freakin 5A GWS ESC for the tail motor. Well, that burnt out real quick. I had nothing but problems. The head would bind, which is apparently a fairly popular problem. You have to get a metal swash. Then, with LiPo pack you've gotta worry about frying the tail motor. No dice. You can't really go very far on a Blade/Honey Bee CP anyway. Heli's like that can only do so much.
I've got an Align T-rex right now. It's eCCPM and fully capable of the 3D that you'll see guys on Fury's and Raptors and such doing. It's a really awesome machine. It's basically a scaled down 120CCPM version of a raptor. Real frame and all. I don't know if you've seen them before, but I'll get you a picture of it less electronics. It's the #1 micro electric heli right now. Things really sweet, they give you a whole lot of extras when you buy the kit, and the aftermarket is HUGE!

I'm not sure if you're into Heli's at all, but if somebody comes in to the shop and asks for a good beginner helicopter, point them to a Sceadu or a Raptor 30/50 and somebody who can help them set it up (and recommend they stop in at runryder.com). A blade CX doesn't really take you anywhere, and micro helis in general are really hard to learn on. Everyone I've ever asked has said to avoid the micros as the first heli. I learned to hover on an oldschool concept 30DX and took it a little farther with a Raptor 30V2. Now I've got this T-rex which is slightly larger than what you'd probably thing of as Micro (much bigger than the Blade CP).
I'll be honest...most of that went over my head...

I do agree that in general, larger helicopters (like larger planes) are much easier to fly than the smaller ones. There is the small problem of cost though. The fact that the most expensive helicopters are the easiest to fly is amusing, disturbing, and well...bad for the hobby, but what can you do? It's not the designer's fault...it's physics. Larger objects are inherintly (sp?) more stable and less "twitchy."

Ya...the CX doesn't really get you very far...but for someone who's never done r/c anything before and just wants a super basic helicopter that they can fix when they crash it...well...it's a good way to go. If you want to jump up to the big boys some day...well...the CX won't help you at all, but it's not designed to, so that's alright. The CX is very limited in its flying abilities and in it's ability to train you to fly bigger, more expensive helicopters, but it succeeds marvelously well at what it was designed to do, ya know?

As for the T-Rex...we carry that too...in the form of the Helimax MX-400. I believe that's the same. I've heard there are multiple "T-Rex" helicopters out there...but I know at least one of them is pretty much identical to the MX-400. That is definately a very, very nice helicopter, it's actually what my manager has (but hasn't flown yet...what a wuss). The reason I didn't mention it is the price. To get one in the air with even a basic setup, you're looking at an easy $600, on something that you're gonna crash a lot. Sure it's easier to fly than a Blade CP, and far better designed (if nothing else, it's got a belt driven tail rotor and not a seperate tail motor), but it's 3 times as much money, and it's bigger, so parts are more expensive as well. I still think the Blade CP, despite it's weaknesses, is a damn fine helicopter to learn on. It's more difficult to fly than most helicopters, but that's okay. It's cheap to get into, cheap to crash, cheap to upgrade, and when set up correctly, it flies very well for what it is. It definately has it's limitations, but at just over $200, you're still getting a lot of helicopter for your money. That said...when people grow out of the Blade CP's and want to step up to something truly kick-ass, I will direct them straight towards the MX-400.

MikeWz
02-17-2006, 12:31 PM
Yeah, I agree that if you're not really going anywhere with it, a blade CX is fine. It's just a fun new toy to mess around with. The CP is another story though. I've found most people go looking to those as an "entry" into the hobby to help them progress. If they're going in with that attitude, personally I'd steer them away. But again, if they're just looking for a new R/C toy that's great. And if they happen to get hooked...even better :cool:
As for the T-rex/MX-400. Well, they're two different helicopters. Granted they're both very similar. The frames are very different, as are the swashplates (what controls the pitch of the paddles and blades) and the servo set-up. The T-rex has a much bigger aftermarket. It's not really too bad to get into a T-rex or MX-400 either (the MX-400 being a little less expensive). You can pick the helicopter itself up for about $150. For another $90 you can pick up a motor/35A esc that'll take you however far you go, you'll only have to change if you happen to break one. The expensive part is the radio and gyro. The radio will be $200 and a gyro will range from $90 - $150. However, those two things will switch right over to the a .30 and bigger size heli with no problem. The thing is, when you spend $600 on a T-rex, it's a set-up that will take you to the ends of your ability and then some. And when you're done, you'll be able to go out and buy a Raptor .60 if you so please and your radio gear will go right in, and it'll take you just the time to get used to the feel of the bird.
The real big problem with helicopters is there's no way to get past basic forward flight without spending money...and even that can cost you a whole lot if you do your research first. But when you get it right it's incredibly fun. I still love my cars, but the challenge you get from flying a helicopter and always having a new maneuver to try...and the rush you get as you're doing it....nothing can match it
You should snag that MX-400. I could recommend you a fairly "inexpensive" set-up that'll last you for a real long time. And considering you've been into R/C for a while, you shouldn't have much problem getting started.

MikeWz
02-17-2006, 12:39 PM
This is what the Rex comes with (as long as you get the HDE or CDE versions..$15 more). You get two sets of blades...all the tools required to build, CA and thread lock are included too. Really awesome kit
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y60/MikeWz/450XL.jpg

And here's sorta what the frame looks like. You may or may not be able to see that it looks almost exactly like a "normal" scale heli. Unlike the thin "tube" frame of the Blade, Hummingbird and all those other micros

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y60/MikeWz/TrexCDEPic3.jpg

apollotrance1
02-22-2006, 07:56 PM
does the new MGT with the 4.60 have reverse? if not, is there a mod for it??

MikeWz
02-22-2006, 10:36 PM
Reverse is already included...for those that don't care about weight :p

apollotrance1
02-23-2006, 09:49 AM
thats cool, I was reading on them because I am about to buy one and I wanted to make sure it had reverse, Thanks

VWVR6
02-23-2006, 09:13 PM
ya I bought the gravedigger body from parma does a company make longer post to use it.???

fuzzy2133
02-23-2006, 09:53 PM
Pro-Line more than likely has the taller body posts .

VWVR6
02-23-2006, 10:06 PM
pro-line ones only fit the t-maxx

Jeff Cain
02-23-2006, 11:59 PM
I think you could still use just the post part along with the MGT upper brace.

MikeWz
02-24-2006, 12:48 PM
Pro-line makes bodies that fit the MGT....and you can almost definitely use the longer posts they have for their trucks. It may take some small dremel work...but I doubt anything serious, and I doubt you'll have to make any mods to the actual body itself

VWVR6
02-25-2006, 12:18 AM
ok thanks guys figured something out.

ofnaravager9
02-25-2006, 11:05 AM
This is what the Rex comes with (as long as you get the HDE or CDE versions..$15 more). You get two sets of blades...all the tools required to build, CA and thread lock are included too. Really awesome kit
... And here's sorta what the frame looks like. You may or may not be able to see that it looks almost exactly like a "normal" scale heli. Unlike the thin "tube" frame of the Blade, Hummingbird and all those other micros...

lol how did this go from an MGT forum to a heli forum?

MikeWz
02-25-2006, 10:16 PM
Yeah that's pretty much how I was feeling too. It's not unusual for a race motor to get 3 gallons or even less when tuned for max performance. I'll almost definitely be getting one of these, but unfortunately I'll probably have to wait untill summer because I just bought a helicopter which sucked the wallet dry.

I just mentioned that...and we got side-tracked, that's all. It seems I'm going to be needing a new motor sooner than I thought though unfortunately. I really rocked my cooling head the other day, literally. I was jumping without the body on because I'm clearly a moron, and I had too much brake-drag set and the car landed on the cooling head which just so happened to be on a rock. It's still works, and temps seem to be okay, but the motor's been running really weird since and I cannot for the life of me figure it out. I may just snag that TTR .28 for it's reliablility, and port it up to get some revs out of it.

metalry101
02-28-2006, 11:34 AM
I just mentioned that...and we got side-tracked, that's all. It seems I'm going to be needing a new motor sooner than I thought though unfortunately. I really rocked my cooling head the other day, literally. I was jumping without the body on because I'm clearly a moron, and I had too much brake-drag set and the car landed on the cooling head which just so happened to be on a rock. It's still works, and temps seem to be okay, but the motor's been running really weird since and I cannot for the life of me figure it out. I may just snag that TTR .28 for it's reliablility, and port it up to get some revs out of it.
That sucks man...but I wouldn't bother with the TT .28 myself. It's a good motor...lots more power than the old .21, but the ones I've dealt with have been considerably more trouble some...not really more so than any other RTR motor (on par with HPI's .25 I'd say, so hardly difficult), but IMO, if you're looking for good reliability with good power, the HPI K4.6 is hard to beat. The carb is kinda iffy, but I've gotten a few gallons through mine and it's been awesome. It fires up easily, makes great power, and just generally rocks. I can't tune to save my life, and I've never had a problem getting my 4.6 to run like a champ, so that's saying something. The Mach .26 that came in the original LST is the same way now that they solved some of the problems...or...if you don't mind using a drill to start it, the new Mach 427. It revs like mad (42.5K or so according to Extreme R/C's dyno), and it puts out good power. It's also easy to tune, easy to start, and while the original Mach did have problems, a lot of problems, Horizon took exceptional care of everyone, which I would assume cost them a helluva lotta money. They shouldn't have had the problem in the first place, but given the manner in which they responded to the problem and took care of their customers, I think I can forgive it...

I'm not trying to change your mind or tell you your choice is bad...just suggesting some more engines that might fit what you're looking for. The 4.6 is pricey as hell, but you might find one for cheap...ish...if you can find someone parting out a NIB 4.6 SS Savage. Same with the two Machs...someone's probably parting out some LST's and LST2's...and if you haven't upgraded your exhaust, the LST header/pipe would definately be a solid upgrade choice.

Oh ya...one other nifty thing I figured I'd add...I figured out an easy to mod to make RPM arms work properly on our trucks. As many of you know, they incorporate some annoying droop limiters, meaning our available suspension travel goes from like 4" to 2.5" or so...basically strangling the hell out of the truck. Well...after my little mod, I've got just as much suspension travel as I did with the stock arms, plus the extra beef provided by the RPM arms...it's a win/win!!!! I'll post up a few more details and some pictures tonight...I'm headed to work now.

astainback
02-28-2006, 09:59 PM
Well... where is the rpm mod??

I used some pliers and bent down the tabs on the skid plates on my truck to add a little travel.

stonesavage
02-28-2006, 11:11 PM
Good engines low cost axis 28 $140cnd. mach/sportwerks 26 $129cnd. thundertiger/associated 28 $120cnd

metalry101
03-01-2006, 01:09 PM
Here's my simple little mod.

http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/5476/mgt266uy.jpg



Here's a pic from the back showing that I have full droop again!!!

http://img121.imageshack.us/img121/9391/mgt255no.jpg

MikeWz
03-01-2006, 03:16 PM
If I got an Axis I'd probably get the new .32. I don't know much about Axis or who makes them but I've heard some good stuff about the .28, so I figure the .32 can't be that bad. I'm really looking at the Werks/Collari .32 right now. It's $230, so it's no more than the OS, and it comes with a rotor-start back plate which is cool. I've yet to hear anything bad from anyone that actully owned one. Anything bad I've heard (this seems true about any engine someone asks about) is "oh my friend has one and...." and I don't pay any attetion to them because 99% of them are BS.
My other consideration was getting the OS .30 and having Maverick Racer make it a 5-port and have him mess with the timing for me. I haven't seen him around a bit, but I' betting he's still making world's quality motors.

Metalry - If you're still working at that Hobby Shop and you carry the OS .30 and the Collari .30/.32 is there anyway you could see if the OS carb will fit in the Collari?

metalry101
03-01-2006, 03:54 PM
If I got an Axis I'd probably get the new .32. I don't know much about Axis or who makes them but I've heard some good stuff about the .28, so I figure the .32 can't be that bad. I'm really looking at the Werks/Collari .32 right now. It's $230, so it's no more than the OS, and it comes with a rotor-start back plate which is cool. I've yet to hear anything bad from anyone that actully owned one. Anything bad I've heard (this seems true about any engine someone asks about) is "oh my friend has one and...." and I don't pay any attetion to them because 99% of them are BS.
My other consideration was getting the OS .30 and having Maverick Racer make it a 5-port and have him mess with the timing for me. I haven't seen him around a bit, but I' betting he's still making world's quality motors.

Metalry - If you're still working at that Hobby Shop and you carry the OS .30 and the Collari .30/.32 is there anyway you could see if the OS carb will fit in the Collari?

We don't carry the Collari .32. We can order it, but we don't stock it, so I have no way of testing that. Sorry.

sl9mk
03-08-2006, 06:36 PM
My brother and I are about to order our MGT's and I was wondering, is there a way to make sure we end up with different frequencies so we can run together? I just converted from airplanes to trucks and maybe things don't work the same way.

And for the record, I think it stinks that we can't pick our colors when ordering from Tower Hobbies. Maybe every retailer is that way, but I'd like to make the decision, not AE. There, I said it. And I still plan on ordering from Tower.

Shane

Brian23
03-08-2006, 06:47 PM
for school i need to take apart an engine and it's supposed to be a lawnmower engine but my teacher said an rc engine would be acceptable- i dont have any burnt out nitros so do you think my hobby shop would sell me a burnt out engine that i can rebuild? it will probly not be run again anyway

MikeWz
03-09-2006, 02:18 AM
sl - When you order from tower, they usually give you a choice sometime during the ordering process...at least that's what they did when I ordered a truck from them so you should be okay. And I agree with you on the colors. THey should also have more than 2 colors

Brian - The only thing you can do is ask. Think about it, the worst that could happen is they say no

sl9mk
03-09-2006, 03:22 PM
It's nice that someone else feels my color pain. Just kidding. Back to only two color choices, it seems that there aren't many manufacturers offering aftermarket bodies for the MGT, maybe two optional bodies? What's the deal with that?

Shane

MikeWz
03-10-2006, 09:51 AM
Yeah it's pretty dissapointing. Pro-line offers a few but the choices are definitely limited. It's probably because of how hugely popular the T-maxx (for some reason :rolleyes: ) and the Savage are that there are so many bodys they can use (same size). Apparently the LST and the TNX use the same size as the MGT so with the release of the LST2 and the MGT 4.6 I'd assume the trucks are going to become a bit more popular and we'll see some more bodys come out. Personally, I'm fine with the Crowd Pleaze 2.0

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y60/MikeWz/Monster%20GT/DSCF0250.jpg

sl9mk
03-10-2006, 10:58 PM
I like that body, Mike, err... the one on your truck. I've also seen the Hummer body that doesn't look too bad.

Another question: does the MGT come with any chargers? Tower shows that the Associated Transmitter/Receiver Charger comes with the the XP3 radio which is included with the truck, but it doesn't say anything about it on the truck spec page. Also, since this charger says it charges the Rx at 4.8V, will it work if I put a 6V hump pack in the truck? One more question: I'm planning on putting NiMH AA batteries in the Tx. Will this charger work? Or is there a hump/stick pack that fits the Tx?

Shane

oggydog
03-11-2006, 12:01 AM
Just ordered the MGT from tower. I really researched this forum to see if it is the right truck to get and for the money it looks promising. I got a receiver pack to put in it, I hate changing AA batteries all the time .I am going to try a set up like my revo has with a switch and charge lead so the pack can stay in the truck should work great. I got this truck to bash around and give my wife something to drive while I am playing with the revo. So is there any parts I should pick up as spares to have in case she gets excited . (or I drive it into something or someone :eek: )

Shane I don't believe it comes with any chargers I plan to use the one that came with my revo to charge the RX pack and I got two energizer 15 minute chargers and batteries at wally world for the transmitter.

All yeah I hate to kick myself later but I just canceled the revo 3.3 on tower I pre-ordered it at only 509.99 and I figured my revo with the os .18tm is good enough for me. I was going to give that to the wife till I got it out today and ripped it and man it goes fast enough for me now.I got a 2.5R here some where I'll have to put it through its paces and do the ERP and upgrade mine to a revo 3.3.

I really like my t3 & and the t4 is just awesome so I think the MGT should be a real beast and a lot of fun to drive. I got the same tires on my e-maxx they are huge. :D

MikeWz
03-11-2006, 03:20 AM
Shane - I'm pretty sure the MGT doesn't come with a charger, so if you want to get a hump-pack of any kind you'll need to buy a charger for it. You definitely can run a 6V hump pack in there. I'm running a Trinity 2 over three on there now and it works awesome. You'll get much more steering and braking response with one of those.

Oggy - You'll probably want to get some A-arms and Steering knuckles. Those are really thing only things she'll manage to break. She'll probably break bumpers too, but you can reinforce those by wrapping some ziptires around the bumper/brace. If you look back a bit there are some pictures posted from somebdy who did that

sl9mk
03-11-2006, 11:56 AM
Thanks Mike and Oogy,

Mike, which charger do you use to charge your 6V hump pack? Does it also charge the transmitter batteries? From what I understand, the transmitter has a charge jack where you can charge the batteries inside the transmitter. I might as well get a charger that does both.

Oogy, how much did the Energizer charges cost? Will they charge NiMH or just NiCD?

Shane

oggydog
03-11-2006, 03:48 PM
Shane they are a little high on price $30 for the charger and 4 2200mah nimh batteries they charge them in 15 minutes or less and they are made really nice they got a cooling fan below the batteries and they work really good.

Mike thanks for the info I will be ordering that stuff shortly

MikeWz
03-11-2006, 05:40 PM
Thanks Mike and Oogy,

Mike, which charger do you use to charge your 6V hump pack? Does it also charge the transmitter batteries? From what I understand, the transmitter has a charge jack where you can charge the batteries inside the transmitter. I might as well get a charger that does both.

Oogy, how much did the Energizer charges cost? Will they charge NiMH or just NiCD?

Shane

Here's what I'm running:
http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXVG17&P=7
http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXHCF1&P=M

As far as charging the the transmitter...I'm not really sure. I got rid of my TX real fast because frankly, it's garbage...but unless you're buying a Losi that's to be expected in a RTR. It doesn't come with recharageble batteries anyway. If you're going to use Radioshack/Energizer/Duracel recharagbles I'm pretty sure you can't use a standard NiMH/NiCad charger anyway. And I'm not sure the stock TX can take any kind of NiMH pack like for the reciever.

Spend the extra money on a nice Crowd Pleazer 2 and paint it up nicer than your brothers stock body ;)

Brian23
03-12-2006, 11:07 AM
a couple days ago i had a problem with when i used the drill start... I would spin the shaft withthe drill but the pistion wasnt making hte pop pop pop sound . Some where on these forumns ii read that it could be a one way bearing in the pullstart. So I didnt know what to really take apart so i went to the lhs for some help. They showed me how to take off the pulstart and clean the bearing with some magnum force 2. So it was clean at the lhs and it made the pop pop pop sound but it was so fun taking something off and putting it back on to have it work better that i came home and cleaned it again :D it was fun

marctroy
03-12-2006, 11:12 AM
After you clean that one-way bearing (which should be done on a regular basis), be sure to oil it with Mobil One synthetic oil...

MikeWz
03-12-2006, 01:04 PM
Or some good 'ole MMO...which at least used to be cheaper than a quart of oil

sl9mk
03-12-2006, 06:23 PM
First off, please understand that when I buy my truck, I am 98% sure it will be an MGT, but why is the ground clearance on the MGT less than the T-Maxx and Revo? The MGT has huge tires compared and is supposed to be bigger, but is lacking ground clearance compared to the otehrs. Am I reading things wrong here?

sl9mk
03-12-2006, 06:37 PM
When was it that the MGT came out with the 4.6 SE? I heard the there was an upgrade last September, but that there was also another one more recently.

Shane

metalry101
03-12-2006, 06:42 PM
First off, please understand that when I buy my truck, I am 98% sure it will be an MGT, but why is the ground clearance on the MGT less than the T-Maxx and Revo? The MGT has huge tires compared and is supposed to be bigger, but is lacking ground clearance compared to the otehrs. Am I reading things wrong here?
I think you are reading things wrong. The MGT has tons of ground clearance, as much or more than pretty much everything out there.

MikeWz
03-12-2006, 09:14 PM
Yeah the MGT definitley has more ground clearance than than the T-maxx and Revo. It may have more than the Savage too with the way those TVP plates come down.
The SE came out around september, but I'm not aware of another version. There's the 4.6 and the .21. Only difference is the motor really, probably different Clutch Bell and Spur sizes to aid in getting traction

LD3Furious
03-12-2006, 09:23 PM
The SE was also upgraded with all steel gears in the tranny.