Tire Choices

[Witness_02]

Hey

Im in the process of building a hybrid, and have come the the tire choice. Im torn right now between four tires;

Pro Line Maxx Mulchers

Pro Line Maxx Bow Ties

IMEX Step Dawgs

IMEX Pinn Dawgs

I will be mainly running on grass, but will be on loose forest floor too. Any ideas? The Imex ones seem to be about 30usd a set, whereas the prolines are about 45. Longevity is a factor, and i dont want to get mashers or other chevron based tires

any suggestions?

Rich

[Puffnstuff]

Have you considered the losi zombie maxx or even the stock hpi gt1 from the savage? They're the grippiest tires that I've run yet and if you want grip then you'll want a soft compound tire.

[maxximus14]

Take a look at this http://monster.traxxas.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=229283 . It might help you out a little and it gives alotta pics with different tires combinations(all pin style). If your driving in loose conditions, small pins probably aren't for you. I would suggest either m the mulcher from proline or sportrax tires from traxxas. I hear the sporttraxx tires give awsome wear but im not sure about the others.
I don't know much about the IMEX pin tires but i do know that IMEX uses a real rubber compound so that their tires are alot heavier than other tires if that matters to you. The racing pin tires are probably lighter than their other tires but i bet they are still heavier that bowties or sportrax's.

[Witness_02]

Hey

Do you actually know how much heavier the IMEX tires are? Im very interested in the mulcher type tire, and at 30 a set step dawgs seem pretty good...

rich

[metalry101]

I have Mulchers, and I can vouch for their absolute ass-kicking, jaw-dropping, dirt-shredding, rock-throwing, mud-slinging traction. They are the best tires I've ever run on my E-Maxx. PERIOD. I like other tires as well, the Big Joes are pretty sweet, and I like that they're bigger. However, if Pro-Line ever release a 40-Series Mulcher, my Big Joes will be up for sale. For the type of terrain you mention, I think the Mulchers will be perfect. That is exactly what they were designed for, and man do they work.

[Strata33]

I've heard that the 40 series tires, being bigger actually, take away from the trucks control and handling...are they more for the look then the regular size maxx tires, do they help in anyway that the others don't or do they hurt the performance?

I'm looking to maybe put 40 series Big Joes on my E-Maxx and I've only had my E-Maxx a short time so I don't have any real experience to decide what tires are best. I will needing a tire that can pretty much do it all, on any surface basically.

[metalry101]

Depends on which tire. The 40 Series Bow-Ties are every bit as good of a handler as the standard Maxx Bow-Ties. The Big Joes on the other hand...aren't as crisp as say, the Mulcher, but w/ the right setup, they're still fine. My E-Maxx has the Pro-Line steering setup w/ a Hitec 5645. The truck also has the Bombproof Torpedo chassis, making it 2 inches longer. As you can imagine, this is a large truck. It's still flickable, literally flickable, w/ this setup. It's still got the stock motors, so it's not crazy fast, but my steering is as good or better as any other truck on the market, BAR NONE. W/ the stock servo and servo saver, the steering would probalby seem quite a bit more sluggish and the precision would most definately take a hit, but w/ a strong servo saver and a much better servo, it doesn't matter what you run.

[Witness_02]

Hey

Thanks all for the reply. I dont really like the 40 series tires. Ive head things about them destroying hexes and such on large jumps. Plus they dont look so great in my opinion.

my decision is now between the mulchers and the step dawgs. They look identicle really, and so the only difference will be compund and wear. Ill keep you posted in a few days as to what ive decided on.

Rich

[Strata33]

hey metalry101...

I am wondering how much your setup costs? the Bombproof Torpedo chassis and the Pro-Line steering setup w/a Hitec 5645? I am very new to RC and already with really no experience I think the steering is already lacking in how I thought it would respond, it does seem sluggish to me right now. These 2 upgrades do interest me if you could give a bit more info on them I'd appreciate it.

Would the Pro-Line Maxx Performance Suspension Kit add to what you've done or a waste of money? Does anyone have this kit on there truck? Is it worth it?

[Witness_02]

Hey all

well i got the step dawgs in the end. Ill let you know how they are when i eventually run them.

rich

[metalry101]

The Pro-Line suspension kit won't hurt that a bit. I run it on my E-Maxx as well. It's very tough, and definately a good addition to any truck. However, if you've got a current generation E-Maxx, then you've already got the wider suspension, making the Pro-Line setup somewhat useless unless you plan on racing and really need the adjustability. It's a great setup, but if you've got the WideMaxx suspension on your truck already, you don't need the Pro-Line kit.

Pricing...

Bomb-Proof R/C (http://bomb-proofproducts.com/home.htm)

Hitec 5645 (http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXUZ81&P=ML)

Pro-Line Steering Kit (http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXDCW6&P=ML)

Not cheap, but it is a very solid setup. Just a note, the Pro-Line kit says it won't work w/ an E-Maxx, because, well, it won't w/o some modifications, at least w/ the stock chassis. W/ the Torpedo chassis, you're golden!

[RrR]

Stock tires with ever other lug removed works good in just about all terain. But what ever you get go for the lightest tire/rim you can get.

[QDiddy]

I've got a couple sets of Imex tires and they are VERY long living tires. My Baja's really grip the road and grass and still have a lot of traction for as much street drving as I do. The Trail Dawg's hook up big time in grass but not as well on the street. They literally tear up and throw pieces of grass (which I don't like, but it looks cool) LOL

[Strata33]

Thanks metalry101, I'm checking it all out. I'll get back to you on this stuff but right now just to let you know the link to the chassis doesn't give any price or extra info about it...just a page with no links. I like the Tower Hobbies links because thats who I buy from.

[Strata33]

metalry101...

The Pro-Line Steering Kit states it's for T-Maxx only...and I looked at many different sites to make sure. that's too bad cuz I was really getting into the idea of getting it. still haven't found any info on the chassis and still reading about the hitec servo.

[Witness_02]

I always thought that T/ E maxx bulkheads were the same, and so was the suspension? Surely the performance suspension would work then?

[cretin]

i have the mulchers on my savage, and they are awesome, mounted on horrible looking imex rims. the buggy rims with included adapters. they are ugly split 3 spoke things, but they only have 1/4 inch of offset. from above, my savage looks square, it is 1/2 inch narrower than it is long. VERY stable. my buddy has zombies on offset maxximizer beadlocks, and once he ran them, the stock savage tires haven't left the table.

[Witness_02]

When built i will be using standard maxx 2.5 suspension and maxx rims, with IMEX step dawgs. I dont want to be in a position where it is wider than it is long, but i dont think that will be a problem.

Does anyone acutally run the IMEX tires? ive heard alot of poeple running mulchers but very few using step dawgs. they look very similar, and were much cheaper. Does anyone have experience with them?

[losi racer13]

i say go with some clod tires they look pretty sweet

[cretin]

i think imex is much more popular for their tires that mimic "real" tires. look around, and their jumbo swamp dawgs (the spitting image of super swamper boggers) are on backorder EVERYWHERE. i am so bored with chevron tires and their close derivatives. real monster trucks use them cause there's nothing else. but i am very surprised that they haven't found somone to make something different.

[losi racer13]

oh man super swampers are sweet

[Viperrgh2]

i run trail dawgs that I got from www.robshobbiesrc.com for a great price. I havent been able to use em much yet but they seem great so far lots of traction. My suggestion w/ the steps is dont use them in the road at all! imex side-walls are said to be a bit weak and do bad in road. other then that I like imex over pro-line and most of the ppl i talk 2 who have imex tires agree with me..

[cretin]

who takes a monster truck on-road anyway? well, unless you're out terrorizing touring cars! mine has never seen pavement.

[maxximus14]

"but i am very surprised that they haven't found somone to make something different."

IMEX is coming out with a new tire called the "K-Rock." I don;t know if its made after a real tire tho cuz i've never seen the the tread before. Its on their website www.imexrc.com in the lower right hand corner.

[Viperrgh2]

yea the new k-rocks seem like a sweet tire. Imex says they are going to be 7" tall and pretty much meant for the krawling. The only problem is, they are more money about as much as jumbomaxx tires..

[Witness_02]

I never really saw the point of those. They put horrible strains on the drivetrain and steering, and look poor.


I dont plan on running my MT on the street, itll destroy the lugs, which would suck. I bought an extra pair tires for my truck in case anything bad does happen

[cretin]

i mean firestone or badyear, not imex.

[maxximus14]

7"!! Man thats alot..mayb a little too much..

[Quinton]

There's those new Komodo tires which are very little and not very wide at all. They look like 1/8th buggy tires on 'roids. They look sweet and are SUPER light. So small and light they may not be legal in races.