Revo/LST [Archive] - Radio Control Zone

Maxxcrazy

05-27-2004, 05:48 PM

HELLO!!
They aren't out yet, so stop making assumptions, and telling people that they are they best. You don't know for sure! Just because they look so great, doesn't mean that they are. So stop assuming things because you are making an ass out of you and me. Mostly you because I know what I'm talking about.

The point of this thread is to remind people that they aren't out yet, so you can't tell people that they are better than any other truck.

Skribble

05-27-2004, 07:28 PM

Revo was raced at the Pro-Line race. Only reason it pulled ahead was because of the two TNXs running out of fuel, and David Jun doesn't even have MT experience anywhere near Slayden. A properly setup T-Maxx would've been just as fast .. LoL. The Revo is overhyped, just like when the "next" T-Maxx came out ..

Just wanted to say that. And what is it with the rumor/truth that the Revo is Truck of the Year without the ballots even being released? Hm .. Makes you wonder if Traxxas and RCCA are "secretly .. SHHHH!!" engaged.

Just wanted to point that out. :/

Breakin2

05-27-2004, 08:21 PM

I love being lectured.

Freedom

05-28-2004, 12:54 AM

Slay and his little Revo got lucky.

RCMadMatt

06-12-2004, 01:05 AM

Hmmm, and if Slayden had been beaten, you all would have just said that that proves Traxxas can't win. Admit it, you know you would...

thedarkness

06-12-2004, 01:15 AM

No, I dont think anyone would say that because if the revo didnt win its first race Traxxas wouldnt have realed a bunch of press on it and the media would have shied away.

RCMadMatt

06-12-2004, 01:22 AM

Avalanche

06-12-2004, 06:34 AM

No, I dont think anyone would say that because if the revo didnt win its first race Traxxas wouldnt have realed a bunch of press on it and the media would have shied away.

Traxxas dumps TONS of cash into advertising, the media wouldnt shy away from them for anything. The reason its being so hyped, and you cant stop hearing about it, is because Traxxas is great at marketing, nothing more and nothing less. How else do you explain the Tmaxx being truck of the year so many years in a row while being so horribly weak and prone to breakage.

cretin

06-12-2004, 09:29 AM

crap, there was a t-maxx ad running in maxim for crying out loud. they even showed on in one of their toys for big boys articles.

i like the comment made in another thread... wait til the updated revo comes out.

MikeWz

06-12-2004, 10:47 AM

The t-maxx was an excellent truck...untill trucks like the MGT and Savage came out. That's when I really saw the weakness of the T-maxx. People give this garbage that traxxas started this that and the other thing. Well guys I got news for you. Traxxas may have started it but the other companies made it MUCH better. Now, traxxas has had opportunity after opportunity to make trucks like the maxx better. What do they do? Drop another illegal race engine in and make the suspenion wider. Do they fix any weak points? NOPE

Now that I've learned my lesson, I look over cars much more thoroughly before I buy one. Look at the arms on the Revo. Can you honestly tell me one decent smack won't break those? This is strictly a track truck. It's not a monster truck. It's an ST on roids that's all.

The LST...well I'm disspointed in Losi. What engineering did they do on that truck? I LOVE the xxx-nt, but bought an MGT over waiting for the LST because it's just not impressive...especially with it's $600 price tag. I don't care what radio it comes with.

Skribble

06-12-2004, 12:40 PM

So, since Traxxas WAS prepared to race while the other teams weren't, and that the Revo did win its first race, Traxxas isn't supposed to make a big deal of it. Sounds like the competition didn't take the Revo too seriously if you ask me, and it showed.Actually, it was the other way around. Jun and Anderson got a decent ammount of track time in, but Slayden didn't have much due to Stormy weather and his plane flight being cancelled.

Did you even read how the Revo won? It won due to Anderson and Jun trying to squeeze there fuel and not make a pit stop, which they both ran out of fuel at the same time and the Revo pulled ahead. I heard they also used the trucks at the recent RCX, and one had a cracked manifold from the backflips.

maxximus14

06-12-2004, 01:19 PM

Slayden also ran into some traffic trouble and thats when he lost second place...The TNX's could have had traffic too but sometimes its luck that wins races(not having a car smash into urs), not the driver or the truck. Despite that traffic problems that let the TNX get ahead, after a few laps he managed to reel him in again. But then the revo "ended up in a monster truck sandwich between the two other trucks" which let David and his TNX get bigger lead yet again. WHos fault it was for the crashes was never mentioned but David could have been lucky and somehow dodged the traffic jams...Or the TNX could have had the same traffic and Steve just screwed up. You never know whats gonna happen in a race so you can't base how good the REVO or the TNX is off of just one race.

cretin

06-12-2004, 01:49 PM

vince lombardi once said "there is no such thing as a good loss, and there is no such thing as a bad win." winning is winning, but if the tnx is as much better than the revo as this one race shows (no, i'm not saying it's proof), then the tnx will have plenty of opportunity to show it. saxton won when the other guys broke, but he still won. who cares if his truck was stock or not? it was more stock than any truck anyone here would race.

RCMadMatt

06-12-2004, 02:43 PM

So, Traxxas was NOT prepared and still won? And still they get bagged on...

maxximus14

06-12-2004, 09:11 PM

Yea thats the weird thing about traxxas is you either hate them or you love them...and most of the ppl on this board hate them(or at least the T-Maxx).

Cretin, so if i run out onto the track and smash ur car to bits w/ a hammer to take the lead and win, am I still considered the winner? Thats a bit over-exagerated but stuff happens on a track the the driver nor truck can control which may result in a loss that should have been a win for you. Thats the hard thing about racing...

cretin

06-12-2004, 11:01 PM

yeah, that's what i'm saying. absolutley anything you do to win is ok. it's also ok to kill your opponent too. stewpid!

Revo12

06-12-2004, 11:14 PM

I'm going to add this to all you people screaming your not buying a revo,they're still going to sell regardless if you buy one or not so stop.

MikeWz

06-13-2004, 01:57 AM

I don't think in any way this was meant to stop people from buying it. It was meant to stop stupid 13yr old newbs who know nothing from saying...OH THIS IS THE BEST TRUCK AND YOURS SUCKS. I've seen one too many posts like that and I'm sure if you do a search you can still find them now.

Traxxas is an excellent company when it comes to innovation and advertising. They threw that nice two-speed in the T-maxx and such. But what they lack is FIXING THE WEAK POINTS. Adding a non-legal engine that doesn't hold a tune and wide-suspension doesn't fix plastic bulks and other weak points now does it? I just don't know if the REVO is all that people crack it up to be. People over emphasize the T-maxx like I've never seen before. I've owned a T-maxx. It was an amazing car. Then I drove other trucks. It's just not what people make it up to be. Drive something like a Savage and an MGT and you'll see.

lerningdriver

06-13-2004, 02:46 AM

traxxas makes it's money off of those weak points. weak bulks = more people wanting stronger ones = more aftermarket support = more people buying the truck

yeah, that's what i'm saying. absolutley anything you do to win is ok. it's also ok to kill your opponent too. stewpid!

what happaned to proffesional courtesy? you could ruin the day for some 13 year old that came to race with his dad and have a good time.. don't you care even just a tiny bit about that stuff? :confused:

RCMadMatt

06-13-2004, 02:47 AM

Yeah, the T-Maxx has its weaknesses, but it's still a fun truck to bash around with. I know the Savage, MGT, Genesis, etc. are all tougher, faster and bigger, but if Traxxas had not built the T-Maxx, there would be none of the others! I have 2 of the older 'Maxx's, but would love a Savage .25 or the new LST when it arrives! Run it 'till it breaks, then fix 'em! They all have their little problems!!

Matt

lerningdriver

06-13-2004, 02:48 AM

the maxx has just abit more then a few tiny problems :rolleyes:

RCMadMatt

06-13-2004, 02:55 AM

True, but they can be worked out. The thing is, the maxx is a nearly 5 year old design, while the others are relatively fresh. I think a lot of the breakage problem stems from Traxxas underestimating how much of a hurting that customers would put on their trucks, or the amount of power some people would be bolting in, and the design couldn't keep up. It's no excuse, but there was really no way to alter the major design of the maxx without coming up with a new truck, like the Revo. We are being told at the hobby shop where I work that the Revo is not a replacement for tmaxx, but a whole separate line. I thinks that's a line. Traxxas will build Revo, and will discontinue the maxx soon. That's just my opinion, however.
Matt

MikeWz

06-13-2004, 03:45 AM

Yeah the maxx started it, but if they didn't whose to say that there wouldn't be trucks like the MGT or Savage. AE and Losi do quite a bit of engeering so if they weren't out now they'd be out a little later that's all.
The T-maxx is a 5 year old design so why not MAKE IT BETTER??? Wouldn't that make a whole lot of sense. Apparently not to traxxas. They'll just make super cheap versions of it instead.

Weak points may = more money and more aftermarket support. I'd rather take the extra strength with stock parts and not need to spend the extra on aftermarket. I mean it's nice to know it's there...but they don't need to break for aftermarket support. I mean look at the MGT. If you could mess up that chassis I'd give you cash. It's effing impossible. I've seen people hit brick walls straight on at full speed and come away only scratched. Guess what...there are aftermarket chassis.

lerningdriver

06-13-2004, 05:44 AM

I agree with you completely, we shouldn't be breaking parts in the first place!

cretin

06-13-2004, 08:47 AM

lerning, i have to be a proffesional to show proffessional courtesy. i am sad that you didn't see the sarcasm. i prefer the example of drag racing, where guys will help their opponents fix their cars; cause it's better to win on the track than in the pits. but a big part of winning is capitalizing on your opponent's mistakes and misfortune. a lot of nascar races are won by gas mileage.

well, i will say this for the t-maxx (you people that hate my anti t-maxx sentiments may want to write this down). sure, traxxas should have changed the weak points of the t-maxx. but, how about the clodbuster? yes, it's my favorite rc anything, but look again, other than some chassis braces on the bullhead, it is still the same truck it was in 1987. oh, the super clod is blue instead of red and black. oohh! once the aftermarket starts building everything a person needs to outfit their truck, why should the factory bother?

maxxamillion

06-13-2004, 12:42 PM

cretin, I'm gonna put you on my Traxxas support team! j/k
Factories should update their products. Traxxas has not paid any attention to its weak areas(other than gen1). With just beefed diffs and maybe different material bulkheads & a arms would of been enough for most. Without having to re-tool for the whole truck.
Traxxas doesn't seem to keep up on the Losi/AE evolution(improvement) thing.
venomamillion...

maxximus14

06-13-2004, 02:44 PM

Hello! What do you mean they haven't kept up w/ evolution...Look at the REVO! Traxxas was already getting huge sales on the T w/o beefing up the parts so there wasn't really any point of upgrading them. There was also already so much aftermarket support for it. Plus they new the Revo was gonna be out soon. Yea its crappy but thats life...

RCMadMatt

06-13-2004, 03:10 PM

...but they don't need to break for aftermarket support. I mean look at the MGT. If you could mess up that chassis I'd give you cash. It's effing impossible. I've seen people hit brick walls straight on at full speed and come away only scratched. Guess what...there are aftermarket chassis.

Then the owner of the MGT was lucky. At the hobby shop I work at, I've seen MGT's with their front ends wadded up after a bad crash into a cement pole. Not pretty. The same for Savage's, only their TVP's are so bulged, it shortened the chassis to the point the body wouldn't fit. So it's not "effing impossible".

Matt

cretin

06-14-2004, 04:52 PM

well, mushroom and i took our savages out today. other than a few popped off tie rods, the only damage our trucks suffered was his hit a huge rock and the front skid plate got tweaked pretty good. if he didn't have the gpm skid plate skid plates, he'd have trashed some parts. as it was, it's just ugly. ads character, i think.

nothing is effing impossible.

DaMaXXer

06-14-2004, 06:51 PM

For those that think the Revo is only a race truck and not durable go look at the videos of the Revo on traxxas's website... Then come back and tell me it's only a race truck...... :mad: :)

Skribble

06-14-2004, 07:15 PM

nothing is effing impossible.Nothing is effing impossible because I can do it all. J/k. Random quote I heard somewhere. :D

Speedtester

06-14-2004, 11:32 PM

Who cares about the videos, we will soon see once the real drivers beat the piss outta the thing and see how it holds up. Till then my moneys still on the Losi.

For those that think the Revo is only a race truck and not durable go look at the videos of the Revo on traxxas's website... Then come back and tell me it's only a race truck...... :mad: :)

viperracing

06-15-2004, 02:23 AM

the tmaxx does suck, the revo is and will be a great racing mt, while it's basically built just for that. for bashing almost any mt, besides the maxx or revo is good. and for most of the bashing mt's, with a little help they can be just as good racing. so losi lst, savage, and mgt are probably the best mt's out there, racing/bashing

cretin

06-15-2004, 08:40 AM

oh boy, you just opened a can of worms. good luck.

Revival

06-15-2004, 11:06 AM

Maxxcrazy

06-15-2004, 07:55 PM

You people can argue about anything

This thread was made to stop people from saying that the Revo or LST is the best truck out there when it isn't even out yet. It was not made to start an arguement over Traxxas as a company.

I love being lectured
And I love lecturing you

Skribble

06-16-2004, 12:27 AM

Screw the Revo and LST .. Lighting Stadium pwns b0th!! J/k. Never saw the Lighting-S coming .. Should be a force to be reckoned with. Revo, Genesis, LST, LS .. The choices are soon to be endless!!