Traxxas Stampede Forum

[Vato Loco]

Well, My wife let me order my christmas gifts! I ordered a Mamba Maxx 5700 ESC and Motor Combo, and also a a123 starter set, Two 2S2P Hypersonic Turbo™ 4600, 6.6V packs, Two Turbo Voltage Controllers, and One Sonic Charge System. can't wait to build a new Rusty/Pede chassis for it!

[TunaCan Charlie]

I'm happy to say that, although I've been posting here for some time, I am now officially a member!!!!!

Got my NEW 'Pede XL-5 about two hours ago. I already soldered the Dean's on , and now I'm waiting for the GP3300 to charge....


YEAH!!!!!

[BIGDADDYV]

WELCOME TO THE FAMILY CHARLIE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Once you go Pede you never go back ...... You are gonna love this truck ........ I have owned one for the last 17yrs and they ROCK ...... Totally versitle and just an all around great ride ....
Glad your in the loop . now we have to see some pics ..... I know youve taken some already ... :D

[TunaCan Charlie]

LMAO.....

You KNOW I was thinking of pics, but the thing looks exactly like the ones on the website, just in silver. No dirt, no scuff, no dust!

The battery finished charging, and I quickly realized this is nothing like my B4. This thing wheelies all over the place! I can't go outside 'till tomorrow, but it seems pretty fast on the carpet. I'll let you know...

And thanks for the kind welcome... :D

[BIGDADDYV]

YOU MUST GET THIS TRUCK DIRTY IN UNDER 24HRS OR THE TRUCK WILL SELF DESTRUCT ...... Its not my rule Charlie its just the way of the Pede...
What kind of hopups are you looking into getting ..... ;) I know youve thought about that too ....... :D

[TunaCan Charlie]

Heh, Heh, Heh...

I've got a B4 with a 5.5 Novak BL, so I'm all set as far as speed goes.

Do you know what weight oil they ship new 'Pedes with? It seems a little thin. I'm not thinking much for hop-ups. Maybe dump the plastic shocks. I'll wait until the 12T gives out before I replace it with a more worthy 540 size.

Something interesting...
The XL-5 is rated for 12 turns with the 550 size motor, but only 15 turns with a 540. Does that sound normal?

Anyway, I wanted this purely for backyard/constuction site bashing. I'm not looking to overpower. Not yet...

[mdrevo]

im the proud pwner of this on .....hopups include rpm bumper...a arms and thats it but its pretty quick as is

http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h276/mdjato/000_0186_0001.jpg

[BIGDADDYV]

MD, thats what we call Solid Old School ... doesnt get any nicer from the stock form than that buddy ..........

CHarlie as far as your questions ....... I dont know what weight oil they use but I can tell you The first thing i do with every stampede I own is get those Evader St shocks ... They are awesome .... I have yet to have trouble with them in over 4yrs ...

The motor (yuck) ... Its junk . bottom line in my oppinion ...... It says 12t but because of can size its really a mild 15t ... My 2 buddies have bought XL-5's and after the Evader shocks they went to a Amber 17t double ..... it ROCKS .... besides you can fry that 12t if you run the 4200's like we do here ..... It only took 4 packs and SMOKEY came a callin ...... That is with the set gearing from Traxxas ....
Other than that really mostly what we do here is go with the MIP CVD's and call it good ... Other than that the truck can usually handle anything you throw at in within reason ..... Keep us Up to date with what you have going on with your new ride and above all "GET IT DIRTY QUICKLY TIME IS RUNNING OUT " .. ;)

[TunaCan Charlie]

Ha ha MDREVO....look familiar?

Not doing too good with the obligatory dirt bath...sorry.

There's no mud on my street. I've just been running on the grass and pavement.

Hope I get mucho gift cards so I can get the shocks/motor/MIP's. I'll let ya know after Christmas!

[microrcdude]

You guys have nice printers....whats the truck thing on them?

[BIGDADDYV]

Holding them down incase of anit gravity .... Pedes can do anything .....

[rigrishracer22B]

Nice trucks and printers...... :D :cool:

[Toothypaste]

I think you can buy mud on tower hobbies...

An alternative way of muddyificating a stampede is to bury it alive (ie: not dead) and wait for three days. Digging it out with a stick also boosts the effect.

After muddyification is complete, you need to denewify. To do this, try throwing the pede at most inanimate objects such as clocks, doors or apple juice. Digging at the motor guard with an axe helps to show premature signs of wheelying too.

In my opinion, traxxas should ship the stampede already filthy.

[microrcdude]

That or they should Scotch-guard the electronics

[rigrishracer22B]

Or come with an all aluminum chassis...

[microrcdude]

And make it weigh more? Naaah.

[TunaCan Charlie]

I think you can buy mud on tower hobbies...

An alternative way of muddyificating a stampede is to bury it alive (ie: not dead) and wait for three days. Digging it out with a stick also boosts the effect.

After muddyification is complete, you need to denewify. To do this, try throwing the pede at most inanimate objects such as clocks, doors or apple juice. Digging at the motor guard with an axe helps to show premature signs of wheelying too.

In my opinion, traxxas should ship the stampede already filthy.

rotflmao.... :D

If you bury a 'pede and wait, does it un-bury itself on the third day?
OK...maybe that's a tad blasphemous...sorry!

[Dirt King]

I finally drove my stock XL-5 that I had bought a month ago and broke it within 10 seconds of hitting the throttle. I forgot to change the radio to my pede setting and had no steering and slammed right into a tether ball pole at the playground I was driving in before I realized it. Broke the front suspension bulkhead and sheered an arm off. It's my fault for not checking my trims and such before taking off, but was still a major downer figuring it's been raining for 2 weeks.

I ran back home and got one of my old pedes and finished my packs out on it, but I was really wanting to get some runs on the XL-5.

[Vato Loco]

well that sux's! Life it one big learning lession, hope there's a grading curve!

[BIGDADDYV]

not to worry . parts are everywhere ... I have some similar things to my own models and i know it sucks .......

[Vato Loco]

Found this lurking about my sons computer!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cb760sZmRd0
My 9ryold took it in 4/7/06 not great quality vid. but it's something!

[trxcrazy345]

did you see that flamin truck (walmart brand any way)

[Vato Loco]

ya! LOL's I don't plan trying that!

[glacierangel]

YOU MUST GET THIS TRUCK DIRTY IN UNDER 24HRS OR THE TRUCK WILL SELF DESTRUCT ...... Its not my rule Charlie its just the way of the Pede...


lol well i got my pede dirty soon enough :D
definitely wouldn't want it to self destruct! :eek:
im gonna go drive it now :D

[glacierangel]

Here's a link to the first video i made!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZjaIwcPQdek
its a little shaky because my little brother took it, and the quality is lame because it was on a still camera, but i still like it :D

[BIGDADDYV]

Glacier, you did a fine job .... Glad to see your not going to let that Pede self destruct .... A Pede is a terrible thing to waste ..... I liked the video a bunch too

[glacierangel]

thanks a bunch, im getting a video camera in a few days, my next should be better quality... maybe i can bring my brothers pede in also to guest star :p

[Dirt King]

Nice vids.

Here's a pic of one of my pedes.

http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/3711/pede1te1.jpg

[glacierangel]

thats a nice body.
you should lower it some, then it would look better IMO :D

[Old_School_RC_1]

Nice - been in the hobby almost 18 years now, and finally got my first Stampede. Ran it 3 times with the XL-5, (not bad - especailly for a RTR) then pulled it out for another project and dropped in the Novak BL 5800 that was previously eating my Blackfoot driveshafts every 4 runs. NOW WE'RE TALKIN'! Needs a gear change though, little too high even with the small pinion. What a cool truck, what the heck took me so long? Love the new wheels, and didn't think i'd like that gray plastic, but I'm kinda digging the new look.

Other than that, leaving it pretty much stock - not much to change at this point. 4th Traxxas (T-maxx, revo, jato and 'pede) and loving every one.

[scoob]

Nice vid Glacierangel. The Offspring are my favorite band. The stock stampede is pretty quick.

[BIGDADDYV]

Old School ... WELCOME TO THE ULTIMATE ELECTRIC TRUCK .... your gonna continue to love it ..... I personally have owned a stmaped of some sort for the past 17yrs and I loved every min of this truck ..... Now go out and get it dirty ....... There are rules to owning a PEde ..... ;)

[TunaCan Charlie]

Old School ... WELCOME TO THE ULTIMATE ELECTRIC TRUCK .... your gonna continue to love it ..... I personally have owned a stmaped of some sort for the past 17yrs and I loved every min of this truck ..... Now go out and get it dirty ....... There are rules to owning a PEde ..... ;)

Ditto that! And do it quick before Big Daddy gets nasty...

I must admit, I dismissed Rusty/'Pedes as noob trucks...and then I got one.

Now that I've driven my 'Pede for a week, I absolutely love it! Not going to win any races, but what a great basher. It pulls wheelies stock with the stock gearing. I drove it repeatedly off a plywood 18" high ramp at full throttle and never flipped or somersaulted. It always came off the jump flat with just an easing off the throttle to land it flat and straight, usually clearing about 10-12 feet with a fresh battery. It takes turns fairly well, usually one rear tire coming off the ground in very tight turns, but rarely flipping.

It's still fairly clean, but has some nice scars on the body! Z-Man is supposed to lend me his bucket-o-mud... :confused:

edit: By the way, has anyone put in a Mamba Max 7700?

[rigrishracer22B]

Here is my half dirty truck
[IMG]http://s126.photobucket.com/albums/p118/rigrishracer22b/?action=view&current=IMG_0027-1.jpg#[IMG]

[TunaCan Charlie]

Half dirty and half red and half orange! :) Hey..where's your gear cover??? And what have you got attatched to your body clips?

[rigrishracer22B]

well that dident work..

http://s126.photobucket.com/albums/p118/rigrishracer22b/?action=view&current=IMG_0027-1.jpg#

[rigrishracer22B]

I dont run a gear cover and I have the dubro clip retainers..

[TunaCan Charlie]

I dont run a gear cover and I have the dubro clip retainers..

OK thanks...hadn't seen those "clip retainers" before.

[rigrishracer22B]

With the gear cover off the motor runs cooler but you run the risk of chiping the gear but I have only stripped 2 gears and the truck is an 03 model. :D

[rigrishracer22B]

onother pic
http://s126.photobucket.com/albums/p118/rigrishracer22b/?action=view&current=IMG_0028.jpg

[rigrishracer22B]

Ok last one this one is without the body and sorry for all the posts.

http://s126.photobucket.com/albums/p118/rigrishracer22b/?action=view&current=IMG_0029.jpg

[Dirt King]

I wish they still made those Silverado bodies. I only had one and I tore mine all up jumping. Now I miss it and want to paint another.

[rigrishracer22B]

Yeah I like the silverado bodies mine is starting to crack and split.

[glacierangel]

Nice vid Glacierangel. The Offspring are my favorite band. The stock stampede is pretty quick.
lol i noticed that it looks faster on the video than it does in real life :D
i used to like the offspring... got sick of it.

[BIGDADDYV]

Ok last one this one is without the body and sorry for all the posts.

http://s126.photobucket.com/albums/p118/rigrishracer22b/?action=view&current=IMG_0029.jpg

Now thats what a Stampede is supposed to look like ...... A big ole dried up muddy mess of Pedeness .......

[rigrishracer22B]

Now thats what a Stampede is supposed to look like ...... A big ole dried up muddy mess of Pedeness .......

Thanks I try my best and that mud has been on there since november.

[Old_School_RC_1]

Old School ... WELCOME TO THE ULTIMATE ELECTRIC TRUCK .... your gonna continue to love it ..... I personally have owned a stmaped of some sort for the past 17yrs and I loved every min of this truck ..... Now go out and get it dirty ....... There are rules to owning a PEde ..... ;)

Already did :) didn't even have it 12 hours yet. weather wasn't the best and got involved with some mud. Although now it's cleaned up so i could swap the motor and speedo - going to have to go get it dirty all over again!

[glacierangel]

i am thinking about maybe asking for a brushless system for my pede at my birthday in a few months.
What is the best system for the least amount of money?
I dont need a reaaaaaally fast one, just less maintenance, good run times, and good power.
thanks!
How about this one?
http://www.shopatron.com/product/product_id=NOVR3005/135.0.7565.7521.0.0.0
how much power would ss5800 get compared to a brushed motor?

[Old_School_RC_1]

Well, i have run the 12T and the 5800, and the 5800 is significantly faster. Say another 30+/- %? Certainly fast enough in this truck with everything else stock....anything much more powerful and be prepared to upgrade some driveline parts and invest in a wheelie bar!

In addition, The difference in throttle smoothness and controlling acceleration is amazing, and the XL5 wasn't all that bad in the first place. I love brushless, never going back...very happy with this drivetrain. Of course, the real test comes this weekend - warm and no plans for sat. other than goofing off in the back yard with the toys. I feel some heavy bashing on the way....see how it holds up.

[BIGDADDYV]

one of my first upgrades is always bearings if they didnt come stock and CVD's along with some shocks ..... Let us know how the Saturday Bash goes ..... and take pics of a dirty pede .... We all know we can never tire of seening that

[aminoelmo]

Well, well, well, this thing flies with the sintered 3.5 rotor on the 5.5 GTB System, and the brakes have improved significantly. Took me some time to be able to sit down and replace it but it took like two minutes and it was really easy. With the 5.5, the car was wheelin' a lot but nothing like it is now with the 3.5 rotor, it flips at half throttle and the wheelie bar does nothing, so I had to lower the rear suspension a bit and it's more under control now.

I ruined one of the driveshafts on the first run so next step is definitely getting FLM's shafts (MIP CVD didn't fit the extended rear arms even with the spacers).

I had to rebuild the front big bores the other day because the car had a really bad landing (10' jump falling on concrete) and the right shock absorber exploded, all the rings went down to the bottom and all the oil was spilled! It's really, really hard to install the bottom e-clips! I'm using 15w on all four shocks now to take the beatings a bit better without causing any indirect impact on the electronics.

Some advice on using FLM shock towers, use loctite or any thred locking product when you install the shock standoffs, because after driving the car for a while on rough terrain, they tend to fall down (happened to me at 10PM at the park with little lighting except for my car's lights so you can imagine it wasn't easy to find it!)

Do you guys think the M2K's have better stability than moabs? I'm starting to think my moabs have the best grip, but for stability they're not the best because they're so thin.

Did somebody mention 4.6AMP 6C batteries? Where did you get them?

[glacierangel]

lol unfortunately i am not able to drive for a few days because i cracked my rear chassis brace (i think thats what its called) :( . I'm gonna replace it with a Swami Bar and brace... good preperation for a better motor :D

[aminoelmo]

lol unfortunately i am not able to drive for a few days because i cracked my rear chassis brace (i think thats what its called) :( . I'm gonna replace it with a Swami Bar and brace... good preperation for a better motor :D

I also cracked the rear brace some time ago when I hit a concrete column at full speed (the battery came off too, breaking the radio receiver box and releasing the ESC from the velcro it had before! And the generic alum bumper was bent also). The FLM braces have taken very good beatings without any problems.

[glacierangel]

for the ss5800 system, can it only handle 6 cells, or more also?

[TunaCan Charlie]

Thanks for the info AminoElmo. I've been waiting to do the same conversion on my 5.5 B4. Sounds like the $30 is well spent!

As far as the new 'Pede goes, I just won an E-bay auction for a Mamba Max 7700 system, used three times (supposedly). It'll probably be 2 weeks before it's shipped and installed, but I'll let 'ya know how she goes and what I break on the first run... :D

[aminoelmo]

I'm having a major problem with the front shocks, the bottom clip isn't holding the rings in, so whenever I jump it a little hard the rings will come out, draining all the oil...how often do you guys rebuild your shocks? Any tips on which tool I should use to install the bottom clips without modifying its original tension?

I had just rebuilt the other shock, so maybe I have to start rebuilding them every few weeks as part of the general maintenance program!

The 3.5 rotor is a must for all 5.5 owners, the improved braking is a huge plus, and the speed is almost out of control, I guess it's probably similar to the actual 3.5 motor, maybe.

[Old_School_RC_1]

for the ss5800 system, can it only handle 6 cells, or more also?

4-6 cells per Novak's website.

[BIGDADDYV]

I'm having a major problem with the front shocks, the bottom clip isn't holding the rings in, so whenever I jump it a little hard the rings will come out, draining all the oil...how often do you guys rebuild your shocks? Any tips on which tool I should use to install the bottom clips without modifying its original tension?

I had just rebuilt the other shock, so maybe I have to start rebuilding them every few weeks as part of the general maintenance program!

The 3.5 rotor is a must for all 5.5 owners, the improved braking is a huge plus, and the speed is almost out of control, I guess it's probably similar to the actual 3.5 motor, maybe.

When I first buy or put together a Pede i make sure i do the following without deviation ....

1 if they fit MIP CVD's
2 Evader ST Shocks and Springs
3 Bearings if it didnt come with them already
4 Your Choice of tires
5 ALuminum Idler ( if you plan on putting any heat behind that tranny at all )
6 JUNK THE STOCK MOTOR and go with what ever your comfortable with or what your ESC can handle .... Other than that i really dont have an oppion

BTW those brushless's ROCK HARD CORE ......... just cant bring myself to bust theone i have out of the TC3 but my 10t trip does just fine ;-)

[Vato Loco]

Rusty/Pede video!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SAyYUKUpu2E

[aminoelmo]

1 if they fit MIP CVD's
2 Evader ST Shocks and Springs
3 Bearings if it didnt come with them already
4 Your Choice of tires
5 ALuminum Idler ( if you plan on putting any heat behind that tranny at all )
6 JUNK THE STOCK MOTOR and go with what ever your comfortable with or what your ESC can handle .... Other than that i really dont have an oppion


First of all I wish you all a very happy, prosperous new year!

I rebuilt that shock absorber and actually the car ran pretty nice last night, and amazingly, I didn't have to repair the car after the long beat-up session, the only thing that bent were a pair of rod ends and a hinge pin from the hub carrier, I might replace all the pins soon for Lunsford's, but not much to do about the rod ends except to always have some in stock!

I've ordered FLM's driveshafts for the extended alum arms so I'll let you know how that goes (also ordered one of those alum 87T spur gears). I'm gonna keep the CVD I had ordered to build a new stampede with all the stock parts I took out from this car (I think I'll only need to buy the tranny and case!). I still have a couple of Stingers in stock so it'll be fun to have complete control of the car again!

Tip for Novak GTB owners: use $5 Integy fans instead of the Novak fans on the ESC, aside from costing a 3rd, they seem to perform better and resist a lot more abuse.

[glacierangel]

4-6 cells per Novak's website.
are you sure?
this guy says he ran 7 cells with it...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TOWUmyVVq7M

[TunaCan Charlie]

Rusty/Pede video!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SAyYUKUpu2E

I saw this one already.

Looks like Michael J. Fox did the camera work... ;)

[Toothypaste]

I cried in both of those videos...

WHERE are the 10ft 80 degree jumps! And WHERE are the neighbours' dogs attacking it!

If buying a brushless system is going to make me drive like a sensible person, then I might just buy a 20turn stinger and put 40 cells through it (that's an idea :D - who can grenade a brand new 20t stinger in the shortest time possible...)

But those pedes really fly.

[Toothypaste]

I think not being able to run my pede due to a lack of spur gear is getting to my head.

And there aren't any of the new ones in the UK yet.

[BIGDADDYV]

I cried in both of those videos...

WHERE are the 10ft 80 degree jumps! And WHERE are the neighbours' dogs attacking it!

If buying a brushless system is going to make me drive like a sensible person, then I might just buy a 20turn stinger and put 40 cells through it (that's an idea :D - who can grenade a brand new 20t stinger in the shortest time possible...)

But those pedes really fly.

Oh young Toothy ;) I have personally trained my pitbull not to go anywhere near my Pede for just such a reason ... Pitbulls and Pedes do not mix ... Its not my rule but i think just one in general :rolleyes:
As far as the jumps go I will send you some pics of where i run mine in my back yard out here in the middle of Gods green coal region of nowhere and you can take your pick of the 5 12-17ft jumps we have .. Video is to come very shortly of the Pedes going off these monsters ... We have nitros that can only make it 1.5 times around the perimeter before needing refueled so its kinda big and rough back there .... :teacher:
Now for the destruction of a 20turn stinger ... Well I cant say that i have blown up a 20t but the heap of junk "12"t they put in the XL-5 only ran for 4 runs before being burned to a partial crisp due to some really nasty gearing and a 4200 matched pack :D :bang:
and thats all she wrote for that .....

[rigrishracer22B]

My stinger motor lasted pretty long 50 packs but that was without breaking in the motor.

[aminoelmo]

Overgearing was all it took me to burn mine in one run (after a few good runs with stock gearing).

[cooleocool]

My stinger motor lasted pretty long 50 packs but that was without breaking in the motor.I actually have a Traxxas Stinger motor that is around ten or eleven years old now! Still use it! I baby it of course, but that has to be one of the oldest, still used and working Stinger motors out there... I think I'll retire it after this winter and put it in a plexiglass box or something lol... She may not be a fast motor, but she sure does last a long time!

[bashin Maxxer15]

... I think I'll retire it after this winter and put it in a plexiglass box or something lol... She may not be a fast motor, but she sure does last a long time!Lol....Yeah :p ....I have two of them that are about 9 years old now and still run like new! Tom, I would wait until it almost dies to retire it so you can definitly have the oldest running Stinger out there....I'll still try to beat you though, lol....

[silver wolf]

Hey BIGDADDYV what else do you need for that truck or did you finish it

[BIGDADDYV]

We just finnished it a few days ago SIlver Wolf .... We traded a fella for some foam tires ( i knwo that sounds weird but they really worked ) and bought the rest of the piddly lil parts we needed to make it run . Since the weather has held out for us here he has been running it every chance he gets to get up to the house and is starting to grasp the concept of less throttle can be good... It brought an actual tear to 3 grown mens eyes to see a child run his first hobby grade R/C ...
If not everyone had a chance to read the Thank you thread in the general section of our forums here, I named everyone responsible for making this project work ...... Silver wolf was only one of many that made this project happen ....... Thanks again Silver Wolf, as soon as i can get my camera back from my sister in laws house I will be posting pics of " The Eli Project " .. It looks and runs great .....

[cooleocool]

Lol....Yeah :p ....I have two of them that are about 9 years old now and still run like new! Tom, I would wait until it almost dies to retire it so you can definitly have the oldest running Stinger out there....I'll still try to beat you though, lol....Lol... I want to keep it working so that I can still say that it's running :p...

[Toothypaste]

Vids would be awesome bigdaddy :D

Sounds like a nice bashing spot (drool) - I wish I had ...OWW!! (recieves electric shock from drool on keyboard.)

Our stream's washing loads of sand down to the field so I might build some dirt jumps (I only said that to make myself feel happier about not having a bashing spot like yours...)

[TunaCan Charlie]

Lol....Yeah :p ....I have two of them that are about 9 years old now and still run like new! Tom, I would wait until it almost dies to retire it so you can definitly have the oldest running Stinger out there....I'll still try to beat you though, lol....

Most 9-year-old motors run like a Stinger, new.... :eek:

[Old_School_RC_1]

are you sure?
this guy says he ran 7 cells with it...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TOWUmyVVq7M

maybe, copied it right from the site. never tried with 7 - THAT would be interesting....i have to gear it down as it is, stock XL-5 gearing is a little too high.

that truck in the video is pretty sweet! like those jato wheels and the mashers.

[Vato Loco]

new chassis

[Toothypaste]

WOAH! how awesome

Is that lexan? What's the advantage of having a lexan (or what that is) chassi?

It looks great, just wondering if it's stronger/ lighter or something.

[Vato Loco]

yes, lexan XL 10, it stronger and just look cool!

[BIGDADDYV]

Besides that it makes a Pede look HUGE ...... LOL.. Looks great Vato keep up the great work and keep us all up to date ..... I personally cant wait to see it ...

[mdrevo]

i ran my pede for the first time today and i must say its completely retarded i charged my 3300 pack hit the throttle and she went on her back ...i wish my camera wasnt a big pos orelse i woulda shot video

[Toothypaste]

yes, lexan XL 10, it stronger and just look cool!

Yeh baby! :D

[TunaCan Charlie]

i ran my pede for the first time today and i must say its completely retarded i charged my 3300 pack hit the throttle and she went on her back ...i wish my camera wasnt a big pos orelse i woulda shot video

Yeah Baby!!! :D lol

[Vato Loco]

My new rusty pede is done: http://www.ultimaterc.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-5779

[TunaCan Charlie]

Vato!

That is one great looking Truck!!! Kudos man!

[BIGDADDYV]

HOLY COW MAN THAT LOOKS GREAT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Excellent job ;-)

[Vato Loco]

I wonder if I can get this one in to RCCA! Start writing to Paul O! wink wink! LOL's

[cooleocool]

Judging by some of the vehicles I seen in there, yours should make it fairly easily!

[aminoelmo]

Just received my pair of FLM driveshafts, they look STRONG. I'll let you know how they run hopefully soon! Also installing the new alum spur gear. Planning on buying one of those nice new black bodies to get rid of my current destroyed body.

[bashin Maxxer15]

That's one awesome looking 'Pede, nice job!!!

[aminoelmo]

Hey Vato your truck looks fantastic! I really like the ESC/receiver distribution you did 'cos it leaves a lot of room on the front end. The battery enclosure is very cool also. What's the total weight?

[Vato Loco]

No clue?

My new bumper, for show only!
http://www.ultimaterc.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-5790

[aminoelmo]

Francesco, when you changed your tranny box did you also switch to the alum diff or did you keep the stock one? I ripped mine and am thinking of switching the whole thing to metal.

Has anybody done or seen any metal/plastic structure to protect the body? Kind of like a roll cage but outside the body to protect all the corners from getting destroyed when rolling over? I know, NOT rolling over would be better, but you know, it's kinda hard when you push the limits and that's a must with the stampede! Has anybody here destroyed or bent FLM parts? I think I bent the front skid plate...

[Vato Loco]

I finally got to break in my new chassis yesterday! Chassis, Li-ions, and MM5700 are a great combo to run! More speed than I need and long enough run time too. I hate shake down cruise's, find all the crap you forgot to tighten or loosen. First run, for got to tighten a tie rod nut, second run found the right rear wheel nut wasn't on either, third run forgot to loosen the sliper some....wheelies are cool but cost me gears. fourth run, all went very good, slippers slippen and stuff stayed bolted togther. I'm putting my old SS5800 on my sons truck so he can try to keep up........My son and I will make a vid as soon as posible! The new truck is a animal!

[Vato Loco]

New vid! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sk-i4OxkM6M and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vn9_eCboN-4

[glacierangel]

I just got some velcro and did a couple of the "convenience" mods.
The gear case velcro one and the battery holder velcro.
And also i put on aluminum shock caps.
I also tried something new, and it seems good but i wanted to check to make sure i wont hurt anything. I took about a foot of fuel tubing and threaded the antenna through it. Then i just wrapped it around the shock tower, seeing as the tube was very flexible. Before this i tried just wrapping the plain antenna there, but it looked bad for the antenna and got bad range. Oddly enough the fuel tube increased the range enough that now i can drive it as far as i can control it!

[Vato Loco]

New vid: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EO3CHg58HWE

[Toothypaste]

Just received my pair of FLM driveshafts, they look STRONG. I'll let you know how they run hopefully soon! Also installing the new alum spur gear. Planning on buying one of those nice new black bodies to get rid of my current destroyed body.

Aluminium spur gear!? :D:D you have to tell me where I can get one ! (please)

Vato that is one helluva sick pede! The best I've ever seen. (and they were muddy too :eek: )

Are all of the vids with the pede on 6 cells? What mamba max is that?

That is a real flyer there :D

[BIGDADDYV]

I agree thats one fine Pede ya got there Vato ..... Now give some specs on the thing so we can compete ...... :D

[aminoelmo]

I bought the alum spur gear on eBay, not sure how good it's gonna be but it's worth the try for the all the problems I've had with spur gears melting, ripping, etc.

I'm expecting the alum tranny case and the hardened steel diff to arrive anytime now from RC-Monster! Next step will be to replace the alum idler for the hardened steel idler from Monster Mike. I've read really good comments about that setup.

Which tires do you guys recommend for high speed pavement driving? Something lower and more controlable than moabs! I think I've seen a nice model from ProLine for this purpose somewhere...

[Vato Loco]

I agree thats one fine Pede ya got there Vato ..... Now give some specs on the thing so we can compete ...... :D
-Home made chassis
-rpm bearing carriers with 5x11 bearings
-alum idler gear
-Integy msr4 piggy back shocks
-widened front end
-hytec 645mg servo
-mamba maxx 5700
-airtronics MX3 radio
-A123 batteries 2s2p
-rims what ever I happen to get.
-Tires, Moabs and only moabs.!
:wave:

[Vato Loco]

Aluminium spur gear!? :D:D you have to tell me where I can get one ! (please)

Vato that is one helluva sick pede! The best I've ever seen. (and they were muddy too :eek: )

Are all of the vids with the pede on 6 cells? What mamba max is that?

That is a real flyer there :D
Mamba maxx 5700 high on A123 Li-ion 2s2p bateries!

[BIGDADDYV]

THOSE MOABS ROCK HARD !!!!!!!! I have them on mine and the one i built for ELi and they want to climb everything including the walls ...... I love those tires ........
Great job again on the ride man....... I cant wait to see what you fruitloops think up next ;)

[BIGDADDYV]

I bought the alum spur gear on eBay, not sure how good it's gonna be but it's worth the try for the all the problems I've had with spur gears melting, ripping, etc.

I'm expecting the alum tranny case and the hardened steel diff to arrive anytime now from RC-Monster! Next step will be to replace the alum idler for the hardened steel idler from Monster Mike. I've read really good comments about that setup.

Which tires do you guys recommend for high speed pavement driving? Something lower and more controlable than moabs! I think I've seen a nice model from ProLine for this purpose somewhere...


If your going street and not snubbing 2.2 tires like most of the folks I know nowadays are, your only choice should be the V-grooves .. I have had awesome luck with them ...... ask around and see if anyone else haas had any luck with them ...... LMK whatcha decide .... Big V

[aminoelmo]

No beadlock rims available for 2.2 right? I'm going for those v-grooves! But I'd like to not have to glue them, working with CA is a pain if you don't do it right the first time.

[glacierangel]

I've never tried an steel spur gear, but here is review of it. He says it just makes your other harder to replace gears strip. http://www.misbehavin-rc.com/pit-lane/steel-spur/es-steel-spur.asp

[Vato Loco]

THOSE MOABS ROCK HARD !!!!!!!! I have them on mine and the one i built for ELi and they want to climb everything including the walls ...... I love those tires ........
Great job again on the ride man....... I cant wait to see what you fruitloops think up next ;)
I got a new vid coming! It's in a ditch behind the funeral home! the area was grassy but toward the end it's sand now.....so I started the vid after I mulched up the gras with the Moabs! Moabs are awsome, as soon as utube edits it i'll post a link! wait till you see the roosters! :eek: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cCMNplSXOOk

[Vato Loco]

Ride the ride! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvIsy7Z4BXQ

[aminoelmo]

Very nice videos Vato! How did you strap the camera?

Today I found something out that I should´ve a long time ago, my car ´sits down´ only then the battery´s on it, without the battery, even with all the metal, the shocks stay 100% extended, putting the battery on is lowering the car close to half an inch I believe. Well, just something interesting.

[Toothypaste]

Ok, my parts finally came from tower (new slipper and stuff)

Having installed the new (jato style) slipper, the spur gear is much harder to turn than it was: it runs fine, but there is noticebly more resistance with the slipper on.

Is this normal?

[cooleocool]

For the record (if you didn't read it on Mis' site), metal spur gears are not for electric vehicles. Stick with plastic, set your gear mesh properly, set the slipper properly, and don't land jumps on the throttle.

[z-man280]

that spur is plastic Tom. its a Jato style slipper clutch, but not a metal spur.

[cooleocool]

That was in response to the aluminum spur gear talk... They were talking about it on another page and a little on this one.

[z-man280]

oh ok, sorry......

yeah, aluminum spur is by no means needed. Also, as you said, its for nitro's, which use 32 pitch. 48 pitch in aluminum would sound "harsh" to say the least in a pede....or anything else for that matter.

[aminoelmo]

I still don't understand why the alum spur gear is not recommended for the e-pede? Isn't it the same as justifying the use of a hardened steel diff instead of the plastic one? When you jump the car and land on full throttle, the gears get ripped because of the flexibility in plastic right? The pinion rips them off...so if you had metal with metal you get rid of flexibility. I see it as a weak point to change the tranny box and diff to metal, idler to metal, driveshafts too, and keeping the plastic spur, I don't see any benefits. I'll be running a much tighter differential, adding stiffness to the whole transmission, and using plastic on the spurs will just kill them faster I think. The big problem I see with metal is that when you have a really bad accident you probably have to replace the whole transmission with box and everything, but you really have to beat the car pretty bad to accomplish that.

I don't have accidents with the spur gear everyday, but I've melted a couple that wouldn't take the heat of the rpm/clutch combination, it rips a perfect circle off from the spur gear.

[BIGDADDYV]

I still don't understand why the alum spur gear is not recommended for the e-pede? Isn't it the same as justifying the use of a hardened steel diff instead of the plastic one? When you jump the car and land on full throttle, the gears get ripped because of the flexibility in plastic right? The pinion rips them off...so if you had metal with metal you get rid of flexibility. I see it as a weak point to change the tranny box and diff to metal, idler to metal, driveshafts too, and keeping the plastic spur, I don't see any benefits. I'll be running a much tighter differential, adding stiffness to the whole transmission, and using plastic on the spurs will just kill them faster I think. The big problem I see with metal is that when you have a really bad accident you probably have to replace the whole transmission with box and everything, but you really have to beat the car pretty bad to accomplish that.

I don't have accidents with the spur gear everyday, but I've melted a couple that wouldn't take the heat of the rpm/clutch combination, it rips a perfect circle off from the spur gear.

You need to lay off that throttle while your Pedes in the air man .. :eek: .. Thats where your comming into all sorts of problems so it seems ..... The ALuminum Idler i think you all are hinting around is probably the single if not best replacement you can make to the pede if you intend on putting any power ( real below 11t power) behind the rear wheels ... :teacher: ... The gears on your spur get ripped off because your wheels are now going a top speed when you punch the trottle when yoru in the air and when you land the friction has to be absorbed somewhere .. The spur is the weakest point at the time of impact ... It has nothing to do with flexibility .... its kinda like you being thrown from a car ....... you get all scratched up right .... I am sure when you left said car your bung was a tight as a snare drum but you had to take the impact somewhere .... Thus you get scratched up ....
Either way to make a really long post shorter I will just say this ... Lay off the throttle while your in the air.. Even the guys that do tricks in the air dont rev the motor evnough to blow the tranny apart .. :p . Its a matter of practice and a few extra gears until you get the hang of it .... As far as the metal tranny junk goes .... Aluminum Idler will work great for what ever HP you put into your truck ... The AL-Idler works to take the constant throwing tourqe out of the equation when you drive and bash at high speeds ..... Oh and a set of MIP CVD's cant hurt either .....

Just my 2 cents .... But what do i know .... I have only owned one of these for 17yrs or so ;) :D

[z-man280]

no, no , no.....

Chassis flex is NOT what causes them to strip. Stop and think, when that truck is on the ground, and going 30 mph, its overcoming alot of variables, friction, drag, ect.. when its in the air, that speed jumps dramitacally. So, going by what it will do on the ground, NOT adding the additional speed the tires reach in the air , you are at a scale speed of 300 mph.

Without even getting into the scale part of it, stop and think of this...all the moving parts, the gears in the transmission, the differential gears, the pinion, and spur, spinning at some extremely high speeds,...coming to a halt in hundreths of a second when it lands. Thats a idle gear going from possibly 120 mph, to ZERO in fractions of a second.

When you land, your tires stop spinning, as does EVERY gear in that truck. Something MUST give. This is why the slipper clutch was designed. it allows just that,...slipping of the gear, to protect all the others from that sudden stop.
The use of an aluminum gear will do what? allow the next weakest gear in line to break. So, you replace that one as well. Then another,...then another, until EVERY peice has been replaced. Manufacters cant do this at the price-point they sell their product at,...so it, add $150 to the price tag, or come up with an idea to utilize cheaper materials, still keeping it durable, and smooth.

The anwser??? a Slipper clutch.

If you choose not to set it as its intended use, every part you put on it will fail at some point.

[z-man280]

ya beat me to it Vince!

[BIGDADDYV]

I see Z and i read this at the same time .... Kind weird that we both basically say the same things huh ..... Great minds . what will we think up next ...... :D

[aminoelmo]

I disagree!!!! :flame: LOL!

I'll try it out as soon as I can set it up and let you guys how it works :driving: I just got the hardened steel diff but the FLM tranny shipment was delayed. I'll try both the alum and plastic spur gears with the new setup and analize the differences.

What's a good charger and battery to switch to LiPo?

[BIGDADDYV]

duratraxx ice is one of the best ....... and Lipos i hear great hings abotu maxx batts ...

[z-man280]

best of luck to ya. I obviously dont know a thing.

[XXWoodmanXX]

aminoelmo,

Z-man is dead-on with the slipper clutch being the most viable solution when landing @ WOT. It is your CLUTCH you want to give.....that's why it's installed in the vehicle. Besides, if you reinforce the spur and idler gear, all you're doing is asking for problems elsewhere in the line. You want the clutch to "break free" so-to-speak, so that the energy produced has somewhere to unload itself OTHER than through your gears. The chain is only as strong as it's weakest link.

[glacierangel]

I thought the slipper was to keep acceleration under control, and not strip gears then...
It is still best to stay off the throttle near landing though, right?
How do you know if the slipper is doing anything?
I never know if i have my slipper adjusted right (btw it is the new type of slipper)

[z-man280]

Glacier...........

if you look in your manual, it will tell ya. But, let me save ya some leg work- set your truck on a good surface....such as carpet. Put pressure down on it, compressing the suspension. Tighten the slipper nut until it stops, but dont BEAR down on it hard...just tighten it. NOW, back it off 1/2 turn. Turn the truck on, still keeping the suspension about 1/3 compressed. Peg the throttle, holding the truck in place. You should be rewarded with a high "squeal" from the slipper, with the spur gear turning, but the tires NOT. Now, accelerate the truck from a standstill, if your slipper is set right, the truck will carry the front tires abit off the floor, but slip for about 2 feet.
Why will it wheelie? Center of gravity, and suspension geometry. Run the original soft red springs in it, and she will not only allow the slipper to do it job, but will pull monster wheelies, not "back on the bumper",...but power wheelies, with ease!!!!!

[aminoelmo]

Well I currently set the clutch a bit loose like Ron suggests and as he says, I still get good power acceleration, not super tight, but even with that setup I have issues with the heat melting the middle of the spur gear. I think the new clutch works better with fast motors from what Í´ve heard. I think flexibility in plastic does have something to do with ripping spur and idler gears, if there was no chance for them to ´give´, they wouldn´t get ripped. I understand that setting the clutch properly alliviates this situation, but in the case that one would make a mistake and set it too tight or made a really bad landing while at full throttle, having a tighter tranny box, harder diff and driveshafts would make it harder to break something because no parts would be flexible enough to ´give´ anymore, I mean, metal would have to bend or the rims would have to collapse! Which is absolutely possible, but less likely to happen.

In regards to weakest links I think I´ve taken care of most of them, I mean, my idea has always been to modify the car as much as I can, so I´m trying to make it as strong as possible to take the toughest abuse (still need to replace bearing carriers for something stronger -alum- and hinge pins for titanium pins). I´m fairly new to the hobbie so everything I say is based on the experience I´ve had in these past few months of modifying the car, so yes, most of you guys´ advice is backed up by a lot more experience and everybody here truly believes that including myself. Believe me, if this turns to be a nightmare, I´ll be logging into the forum that evening to warn you not to try the combination I´m trying, but if it´s good...well I´m also gonna come here and tell you it rocks too!

[z-man280]

are you running the old slipper, or new?? man, the rulon pegs shouldnt be letting the center melt if you are running 1st. gen style. you can tighten to 1/4 turn off tight, and still have protection there. it will help the heat issue. keep us posted tho....

:wave:

[glacierangel]

Ill try that adjustment z-man.
thanks

[aminoelmo]

That's exacly what I thought my friend, it happened to me once without the pegs, then it happened again where the whole piece of plastic WITH the pegs came off!! This, hapened ONLY with Kimbrough spurs though, not with the stock one, interesting isn't it? I might need to loosen the clutch a bit more but doesn't seem like it'll help with this particular problem, it'll help to take it easy on the rest of the parts for sure.

[z-man280]

run it no more than 1/2 turn off tight...it will "slip" when it needs to set there. any looser will just wear stuff faster.

[aminoelmo]

I'll do that, thanks.

I was thinking the other day that I should open an RC store here, I live in Costa Rica and there are only like 3 shops here and all of them suck, I went to one of them couple days ago looking for bearing lube and the guy said "you should just use WD40", I mean come on. And the first thing they told me was "we only deal with Nitro which has the highest demand". That's crazy, they could be selling electrics like crazy for half or a third of the price and make a lot more money. Who knows, maybe one day.

You guys probably have much better access to decent stores! And tracks, there are no tracks here.

[Toothypaste]

are you running the old slipper, or new?? man, the rulon pegs shouldnt be letting the center melt if you are running 1st. gen style. you can tighten to 1/4 turn off tight, and still have protection there. it will help the heat issue. keep us posted tho....

:wave:

So much good stuff about the naffness (look it up in the dictionary) of placcy and the amazingness (same again) of the slipper clutch :D

Zman I'll presume that was directed at me lol -

I'm running the new style slipper (at last) and I was just worried because it is stiffer than my spur was without any slipper at all but now I have run it a but more, it seems fine. When running on-road, is it acceptable to run the slipper tight? My wheel nuts were ground down nicely (to be fair, they have been in a bad state since I bought the pede). And just when I got the damn thing running again (sigh)

[z-man280]

how on earth were your wheel nuts ground down????

off-road, on-road, on sponge.... doesnt matter. Run the slipper as deisgned, or maybe tick tighter, and you wont have driveline failure as often.

I can go on and on about this, and i know people will dis-agree, that tightening down the slipperis the way it should be. If the slipper was designed to be ran tight, it wouldnt have one.

[BIGDADDYV]

I say set it to stock and dont worry about it ...... I have owned roughly 15 stampedes and I have YET to have a prblem with this slipper NEW OR OLD .. I dont see the problem here really ..... Its kinda like one of those RONCO Cooker deals ... SET IT AND FORGET IT .... Traxxas makes things very simple for everyone ..Thus the whole RTR thing ... Its folks that have no idea what they are doing that mess things up ...... I am not flamming anyone by any means but seriously folks next time try asking before you start wrenching ..I know its your stuff and you want to feel like the king of all radio controled when you fix your own stuff but Think folks .. .. They made this the slipper to kinda be fool proof.... You get it and its set ..( theres that RTR again ) ... You install a new gear and you Reset it ... Its not rocket science here folks .... Seriously ... Its all there for ya in the manual and if ya dont have the manual and can read what i am writing go to www.traxxas.com and they will hook you up FREE OF CHARGE !!!!!!!! ... I love when you guys ask us questions I seriously do .. But when most of your answers can be lead back to a heavy trigger finger and some really odd wrenching it kinda makes me go all goofy ..... I will close with these words my dad told me oh soo many times ... USE YOUR HEAD !!!!! Its that lump 3ft above your buttcrack ;) ......

[Vato Loco]

I set my sliper 1/8the turn back from full tight.....seems to work for me. I think that is also factory setting to? In the begining and even now I some times tighten the clutch too much and kill the trainy.LOL's
Sometimes it's by accedent and some times I do on purpose it for the wheelies and burnouts and I still kill the diff gears.....either way we are all on a learning curve! My rig is anything but factory any more, hell some times I feel like a factory making my own stuff! if I never experimented on tring to make the truck better and left it pritty much stock. I wouldn't have had the nerve to try to make my own chassis'!
? rocket science? we can add rocket science........hmmmmm, BL with estee rocket booster? 0 to 1,000 mph in blink of an I!LOL's peace guys;-)

[glacierangel]

Swami and loads of other people have made rocket rc cars lol.
http://www.fdc.arizona.edu/swami/stampede/videos.htm
go to "Rocket Rusty"
Not too effective though. still looks fun lol :D

[Toothypaste]

[QUOTE=z-man280]how on earth were your wheel nuts ground down??? /QUOTE]

I'd like to say something like I have a mamba max 5700 on 12 cells...but that would be lying.

To be honest, I don't know how I did it with 8 crummy cells and a titan 23 turn :confused:.

Maybe it has something to do with the fact that this is an OLD pede (first gen) and was a wreck when I bought it. Still, i think that being able to say i ground the wheel nuts down is fun :D

Just an update on my pede now....I think the last time i did this was September.

1st gen pede
Firm duratrax shocks
5/11 bearings throughout
Stock wheels and tyres (these are still holding out :D)
Mtroniks pro digi esc (deans)
Vapextech 8 cell 3700mah battery
New battery fasteners (sellotape lol)
23 turn titan 550 motor
90 tooth pinion with jato slipper
Aluminium idler (with metal top gear)
Cardboard rear skid plate (yes, really)

This JUST about gets to 30mph. So considering the state of the pede when i bought it, I think I'm well on the way to a more practical and durable pede :D

My tranny case needs replacing (just too worn...my spur wobbles stupidly), but apart from that, I think I'm brushless ready. :D

[Toothypaste]

Spot all of the :Ds and win a prize lol

[glacierangel]

lol i love that smilie :D i just can't get enough of it lol :D :D :D

[MrCrash]

I should never have started reading this thread. Now I'm seriously considering selling my LST so I can get a Stampede :p

[BIGDADDYV]

I should never have started reading this thread. Now I'm seriously considering selling my LST so I can get a Stampede :p

DOnt consider it DO IT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Pedes are the bestest ......... The best part is we always have room for another Pede ......

CAN I GET A HECK YEAH FROM THE UNITED PEDE OWNERS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D

[z-man280]

Heck Yeah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Vato Loco]

Ride the rusty pede 2, I wreck with the camera! please rate vid, thanks for watching!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4g7sWjcyik
Ride the rusty pede3, I hit a tree! please rate vid, thanks chris!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMO4dpOHixc

[Toothypaste]

Ride the rusty pede 2, I wreck with the camera! please rate vid, thanks for watching!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4g7sWjcyik
Ride the rusty pede3, I hit a tree! please rate vid, thanks chris!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMO4dpOHixc

Those videos are scary! (time to change my trousers lol)

And let's have another 'heck yeah'

...Heck Yeah!!!!

[MrCrash]

DOnt consider it DO IT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Pedes are the bestest ......... The best part is we always have room for another Pede ......

CAN I GET A HECK YEAH FROM THE UNITED PEDE OWNERS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D
I just need a buyer :D

Just a quick question about the stock ESC. I have heard of people frting them with high output nimh battery packs. Is it safe to assume that a lipo battery would be even harder on it?

[glacierangel]

CAN I GET A HECK YEAH FROM THE UNITED PEDE OWNERS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D

Heck Yeah!

[Vato Loco]

WooT! HECK YEAH! WooT!

[Toothypaste]

Is it safe to assume that a lipo battery would be even harder on it?

Lipo + xl5 = fireworks :D

[Toothypaste]

I have an idea.....two 8 cell 3700mah packs running in parallel. I think their max discharge is 30amps. If I connected them in parallel would this give me a 7400mah capacity and a 60 amp discharge?

And now for the pede related bit - would twice the amps mean that lower gearing would be a good idea.....like rustler gearing.

I'm asking because my mtroniks pro digi esc will only take 8 cells and I want more power without having to buy another esc.

[z-man280]

ARGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!


okay, lets jump on a few things here:

MrCrash: the stock XL-5 is fine,...i run 3300's behind it, back to back, no issues. running the speed pinion??? totaly different story. It taxes the system too much, Traxxas made an error here, 23T is WAY too tall for a Stampede. Leave stock gearing, you're fine.

Toothy: 2 packs parallel issame discharge rate, double the mah capacity, same voltage. I.E., 3300 Mah 7.2, x2 in parallel= 6600 mah , 7.2 volts.
Bridged???? 14.4 volts, 3300 mah.


ok, you want more power for what????

seriously , i dont get it. 8 cells in a pede is fast, plenty fast for what the truck is capable of.. and designed for. You want faster,...go BL. OR go nitro
jato 3.3. if that isnt fast enough,...then i dont know.

[Toothypaste]

ARGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!

Good day then lol

As for why I want more power.....err....why not :D I'm aiming for 14.4v brushed or 10.8v brushless.

By 'what a pede is capable of' do you mean drivetrain or durability issues? Long term plans are fully metal tranny including diff gear and case.

Let's be honest, if you had a big jump and a choice of two pedes (let's say a 50mph pede and a 20mph pede) I'd choose the 50mph pede. I wanna be reaching the stars! ;) And upgrading is part of the hobby anyway - it's just fun :D

I have to say that my best upgrade so far is the slipper clutch - I ran my pede for 40mins on my uber-amazing ramp and despite my circular wheel hubs, the slipper put the power down without any slipping from the hubs. And nothing broke :D (apart from my notoriously bad soldering lol)

[Toothypaste]

Hmm...I think I need to get my obsession with the :D smiley checked out lol

[BIGDADDYV]

i think it stems from the whole Toothy thing ..... :D

[TunaCan Charlie]

Would you say this is a Porsche-pede, or a Stamporsche?

[BIGDADDYV]

Stamporche I am all for it ....... ;)

[Vato Loco]

StamPorchede!

[aminoelmo]

Stampede 911. What car was that body made for? Looks really cool

[TunaCan Charlie]

Came off a HPI Sprint RTR ha ha ha!!!

[glacierangel]

definitely a stamporsche. That name sounds bada*s :D

[Toothypaste]

Porschpedarado...

I just had a cool thought :D

You can buy absolubtely every part for the stampede in metal :D:D (muwuhahahaha)

I'm thinking big, steep, curvey jump + fully metal pede @ 50mph = fun :D

I think I'll try and prove that formula (when money grows on trees lol)

[TunaCan Charlie]

Porschpedarado...

I just had a cool thought :D

You can buy absolubtely every part for the stampede in metal :D:D (muwuhahahaha)

I'm thinking big, steep, curvey jump + fully metal pede @ 50mph = fun :D

I think I'll try and prove that formula (when money grows on trees lol)

I'm thinking big, steep, curvey jump + 10lb fully metal 'Pede@50mph = Impact Crater!! :D

[z-man280]

somebody needs to bann toothy from those smilies...

Hey toothy, we want video of YOUR pede doing that, after you drop a few more hundred dollars in it, plz...we want it to break and bend on the first run too, so you can spend another $200 fixing it.

[Vato Loco]

Porschpedarado...

I just had a cool thought :D

You can buy absolubtely every part for the stampede in metal :D:D (muwuhahahaha)

I'm thinking big, steep, curvey jump + fully metal pede @ 50mph = fun :D

I think I'll try and prove that formula (when money grows on trees lol)
I wish I had my camera when I took on this sand pile flew the truck up 12' in the air and nose dived in to the dirt :eek: ! that was neat, but cost me a bell crank! 40mph cart wheel is scary :eek:
How many here have a BL powered truck of mayhem, and what is the system of power! MM5700 and a123 2s2p li-ions!
BTW: I started another Chassis :D http://www.ultimaterc.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-5983

[Toothypaste]

somebody needs to bann toothy from those smilies...

Hey toothy, we want video of YOUR pede doing that, after you drop a few more hundred dollars in it, plz...we want it to break and bend on the first run too, so you can spend another $200 fixing it.

How evil...

My pede isn't metal...tis held together by sticky tape lol (the screws are a bit worn you see)

My pede got in that state from me doing stupid things - I was just fantasising on the realisation that you can make a pede stupidly tough :D

[aminoelmo]

I'm one step closer to accomplishing just that Toothy, just received the FLM tranny box! Now I just need to put it all together, I'm getting rid of the stock driveshafts, diff and tranny box. FLM will be working soon on bearing carriers for those of you who enjoy their line of products. RPM's have worked good for me but I've bent a couple of pins already so the switch to metal carriers and tougher titanium pins will be the next step along with replacing all bearings.

[Vato Loco]

hey where do you get the titanium pins I been tring to find them?

[Toothypaste]

I'm one step closer to accomplishing just that Toothy, just received the FLM tranny box! Now I just need to put it all together, I'm getting rid of the stock driveshafts, diff and tranny box. FLM will be working soon on bearing carriers for those of you who enjoy their line of products. RPM's have worked good for me but I've bent a couple of pins already so the switch to metal carriers and tougher titanium pins will be the next step along with replacing all bearings.

Incomprehensible drooling...

[Toothypaste]

Sounds good :D

[Toothypaste]

Looks like there is a ball diff upgrade for the pede coming out soon (it's on tower).

What would be the improvement of having a ball diff?

[Jeckler]

I have a new XL-5 waiting at home, just delivered. The bad news is that it's pouring rain outside, and isn't going to stop until sometime tomorrow. :(
Maybe I'll chase the cat. :)

[MrCrash]

waterproof it!

[Toothypaste]

:D:D:D:D:

Guess what I've just ordered that made me type that many pede smilies :D:D!

[z-man280]

i've decided i am not going to visit this thread anymore.

[MrCrash]

:( :( :(

[Toothypaste]

i've decided i am not going to visit this thread anymore.

Sorry to see you go z-man.

Thanks for all of your help (and for telling me to get that blummin' slipper lol)

Come back soon! :wave:

[z-man280]

HOLY CRAP!!!!!! :eek:

you didnt use a zillion :D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D



you feeling okay??


HAHAHAHHHH!

[z-man280]

gotta find something other than toothy to call ya tho,....and calling ya TP just is cruel.....

so whats yer name???


:wave:

[Toothypaste]

No z-man I'm sad you're going...(well...that and rccaraction forums won't let you use too many lol)

Well I ordered a mamba max 4600 system :D:D:D:D

Come back in the future and (providing it gets here) I'll try and post some vids :)

[Toothypaste]

Call me Smo ;)

[z-man280]

heheheh, i aint leaving Smo.....

no kidding? that should work awesome in your truck.

Please, dont be one of the people that only drive it up and down the road tho, in a straight line....use the truck as it was intended to be used for...which you will find a thread on that somewhere in here.....lol


which was really my big rant....

doing so much to a car/truck, that the main purpose of it is no longer usefull...when ya coulda bought what ya planned on using the other for in the first place.


Does that make sense?

[glacierangel]

lol i think you scared Smo out of his :D addiction!

don't worry ron, my 'pede can fly! (especially with its brand new ss5800 system :D:D:D!!)

[MrCrash]

Quick question. What would a decent condition almost RTR original stampede be worth? It has a Novak Dually esc, a couple battery packs, and a speed gems motor.

[Toothypaste]

Hmmm....

I bought an original off ebay for 25 pounds with nought included (if that helps, though I doubt it will)

[Toothypaste]

lol i think you scared Smo out of his :D addiction!

don't worry ron, my 'pede can fly! (especially with its brand new ss5800 system :D:D:D!!)

(Dunno why I quoted you lol)

What do TRAXXAS build the pede for anyway...

Bashing, racing, tarmac lameriding, flying, getting filthy, going bodyless...(the naked pede)?

Interesting question (I think so anyway :D)

[BIGDADDYV]

Traxxas made the Pede to be the best damn 2 wheel drive monster truck EVER CREATED !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! .... With that being said, I think upon developing it they made it suitable for everywhere ..... :D

[z-man280]

why did Traxxas build the Stampede????

Well, it dates back to the inception of the Sledgehammer, which i beleive was 89. Traxxas was answering the call to the Blackfoot, which dominated and started a whole new class of rc- the 2WD monster truck. Racing was big, and anything you had was raced, including the Blackfoot. Traxxas wanted the better basher, so the Sledgehammer was born.
High ground clearance, 8 oil filled shocks, Hawk suspension arms, upper camber turnbuckles and tie rods,and huge tires, it was the ultiamte basher.

Fast forward to 94, Now the Sledgehammer is dated, and something needs to come along. They went after a different apporach this time, keep it high, make it wheelie, but make it handle. Long suspension arms, 30 degree caster blocks, and huge travel shocks, with a narrow chassis to keep a good roll center, and the Pede was born. Except for the different motor and ESC, ( and slipper) the Pede and rustler have remained un-changed in 13 yrs..testament to just how well the pede has done.

It took top honors for many years, as the best 2WD monster truck out, competing with Kyosho, Tamiya, and others.

The Pede was built to do something a monster couldnt do....handle. Regardless of what anyone says, Traxxas is one of the hobby innovaters, with the E-ZStart, the Revo, the Maxx series,...

the Pede still kicks butt in my opinion as the ultiamte bash truck.

[BIGDADDYV]

well now kids, Uncle Ron here too the long explanation approach ... I however summed it up in just 2 short sentences ... Not to say that Ron is wrong on any level, actually he couldnt be more correct, and i whole agree whole hearted with the things he said ..... Now with all that being done and over with the question remains as this ..... Who can remember putting thier Pede together from KIT form from back in the day ....... :D I know I remember doing it ...... My Pede still has the original A-arms from 93-94 with the tree imprints on the inner side where they connect to the tranny housing .... :D
Just to give anyone who can remember what the instructions were like from back in the day I will quote the Directions ...... After grabbing all the needed tools the only other things you will need is " A large glass of your favorite drink, and a sandwich " , and have FUN :D ....... Now tell me thats not awesome .... :D

[MrCrash]

WOOHOO!

I ended up buying that stampede! It came with a Speed Gems 2 motor, the stock Stinger motor, a Novak Dually ESC, a 6-cell nimh pack, a 7-cell nicd pack, a full set of DuraTrax Street Trac tires, a pair of Pro-Line Mashers for the rear, some spare parts, and it was fully converted to Deans plugs, all for $40. I just need to get an adapter to use the battery packs with my charger, and I'll be all set to go :D

[BIGDADDYV]

I WILL GIVE YA 60 FOR IT :D ...... Best of luck with it Crash, your gonna live it .......

[MrCrash]

Thanks :D I can't wait to get it running.

I'm sure this has been asked before, but I just want to double check. The only differences between the old stampede and the new one are the slipper, the springs, and the color of the plastic, right? If there are other differences, would it be possible to change an older truck over to the newer parts?

Thanks,
Nick

[cooleocool]

I remember putting my Bandit together! My Stampede was bought from one of my friends, and it was RTR when he bought it. It just had some upgrades when I got it!

My dad's was a kit... Bought in '96 I believe. A Christmas gift from my grandpa before he passed. I remember seeing that thing come to life for the first time and she sure seemed fast! Of course, I only had my cheap toy RC's to compare it too... Still though... Those were good times!

Differences between new and old... The shock springs, tires, wheels, body, tranny case is a bit different, and a few other small things... The new parts fit on the old one and viceversa, so you can put them on an old one!

[GT Freak]

Hey crash ya gonna use that stinger :confused: if not LMK

Now the pede is the ONLY truck ive seen, that you can launch it 20 ft in the air. Then, after it lands, it looks at ya and says "were you "trying" to break me :confused: " bbbwaaahhahahahahahah and rolls on its merry way!

[bashin Maxxer15]

Yeah, it's pretty tough truck, it'll survive stunts that will leave other trucks begging for mercy, lol..... :eek:

I just picked up my second 'Pede on eBay, it's going to be a project then I'll probably sell it....

[MrCrash]

I doubt I'm gonna use it, cause it's going on 12 years old (or so I'm told), and it's kinda rusty on the outside.

If your still interested, I'll let you know when I rip it out.

[cooleocool]

I have an 11 year old Stinger... Along with the cockroaches... They'll survive a nuclear explosion!

[bashin Maxxer15]

Yeah, those Stingers will run forever if you take care of them, I've got two that are going on 10 years old and still run like new......

[MrCrash]

if you take care of them

Those are the key words. This motor seems to have had a very rough life. Once I get my battery situation taken care of, I'll see if it even works.

[Toothypaste]

Wow cheers for that information zman! - I suppose the only 2wd 1/10 scale monster trucks are currently the blackfoot and the pede (and, to be different, I have to mention the tamiya lunchbox :D)

My mamba max 4600 system arrived today :D:D. Despite the 30 quid customs, it was more than worth it!

I haven't tried configuring it via the pc yet but from the manual calibration settings, it RIPS! Having no problems with 'battery lag' despite having naff batteries, pulling wheelies at 25mph and running as cool as me (well, almost lol).

In the wise words of zman, I think it's time to loosen my slipper.

[BIGDADDYV]

He Can Be Taught Ladies And Gentlemen !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! He Can Be Taught

[z-man280]

Woooooooooooooo-hoooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!

[Toothypaste]

He Can Be Taught

Woah! Don't be making any assumptions...

... I still want 12 cells
















JOKE!!! I'm rather happy at the moment. All I need to do is glue the tyres and try and stop the spur from wobbling (either new bearings or a new tranny case)

I just can't wait until the weekend when I can finally start up my t-maxx and bash my pede against it. I think my pede is finally quicker :D Some serious nitro re-tuning is in order though - has been a while since it fired up.

[MrCrash]

I got the Pede running, and although it is a little lethargic, it has been a blast to drive so far. Since I can't seem to keep it out of the snow, I am in the process of making a cover for the electronics. I'll post some pics tonight when I get home and finish it.

[Toothypaste]

That's good news Mr. Crash :D

[MrCrash]

Yup :D

Here's my "electronics cover". I found the body lying under my TV, and it looked like it would work, so out came the scissors and the airbrush...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v257/98DakotaSport/RC/4.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v257/98DakotaSport/RC/3.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v257/98DakotaSport/RC/2.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v257/98DakotaSport/RC/1.jpg

Please excuse the TL on the grill :o

Oh, and the paint looks worse in person. My camera FINALLY made a paint job look good:p

[z-man280]

Sweeet!

[Toothypaste]

Woah! That's very awesome :D

[MrCrash]

Thanks :D The Mini-T body fits the width of the chassis almost perfectly, and should block most crap from getting in.

Tonight, the Pede is getting a JR XS3 and a JR Z590 servo :D

[glacierangel]

that seems great for anyone who likes running without a body just to see whats inside.

[rhcsavage21]

AWSOME!!!

[MrCrash]

It's amazing how much more fun this truck is to drive when the steering servo isn't having a seizure :p

[MrCrash]

that seems great for anyone who likes running without a body just to see whats inside.
That is very true. Thankfully it only has to last until I can afford some new body mounts, and a new body (I'm thinking a Pro-Line Dodge Ram Mega Cab, painted up to match my 1:1 truck).

BTW, I wonder if they will let me race with it like that on sunday :p

[glacierangel]

maybe they'll let you race it in the "mini" class :D

[Jeckler]

Even when you get a new body, keep that one on too. So when someone wants to know what's "under the hood", you can take off the big body and show 'em.... another one.

Har har, I crack me up...


Hmmm....

[Jeckler]

Wierdo.

I've only run mine through 3 packs or so, and the stock carriers and bushings are so full of slop, it's rediculous. I will be upgrading very soon, but why didn't Traxxas take care of this when they were designing the XL-5?

[z-man280]

XL-5 still rolls on the same set-up.

darn it.

[sunshine_monkey]

I posted this in the Pede thread under Monster Electric as well because I'm not sure which one to use.... :confused:

My wife got me a new RTR Stampede form the LHS for $160. They price matched Ultimatehobbies.com and I liked the idea of supporting the local guy. I'm going to keep the ESC but I think I'll ditch the motor after a little bit. What's a good motor for the Pede? I was thinking something in the 17-19 Turn range. I was thinking of getting the aluminum caps for the shocks. Should I go with the RPM arms? Should I go with some stronger shock towers? Can you give me the part number for the Aluminum idler gear?

Thanks!

[sunshine_monkey]

I forgot one question. Does the Pede come stock with all the bearings?

[Vato Loco]

Stay stock for now, and replace stuff as it breaks with better after market stuff, why waist good parts....Just in the tranny, the stock bearing carriers and bell cranks use 5x8 bearing you'll need 12 total!
I would sudjest getting the RPM carriers and 5X11 bearing holds up better!

[gallen32]

Vato Loco,

Seeking some insight. I installed new RPM front carriers on my Stampede. Now the tires are rubbing on the A-arms when I try and turn. I have lost a significant amount of my turning radius. The tire opposite the way I am turning jams up on the A-arm, not allowing any kind of sharp turn, even at slow speeds. The stock front carriers allowed for wicked sharp turns. What did I do wrong? Please let me know what you think.

Thanks,

gallen32

[sunshine_monkey]

Thanks! I'll keep it stock except for the bearings, aluminum idler gear, RPM carriers, and a 645MG servo. I might get a Reedy Spec Quad Mag 19 Turn, or a TRINITY CHAMELEON 2 PRO 19 Turn motor.

[BIGDADDYV]

WOW 645mg servo si what I use in my Emaxx ........ Your gonna be throwing hose wheels like frizbees ..... LOL..... HMM I think monkey gave me an idea :D

[Vato Loco]

I had the reedy quad mag, Great Motor! tons of torque!

[glacierangel]

is there any reason to install the aluminum idler gear before the plastic one strips?

[Vato Loco]

Vato Loco,

Seeking some insight. I installed new RPM front carriers on my Stampede. Now the tires are rubbing on the A-arms when I try and turn. I have lost a significant amount of my turning radius. The tire opposite the way I am turning jams up on the A-arm, not allowing any kind of sharp turn, even at slow speeds. The stock front carriers allowed for wicked sharp turns. What did I do wrong? Please let me know what you think.

Thanks,

gallen32
Post me a pic if you can.

[sunshine_monkey]

I have a Hitec 645MG Servo and a Reedy Spec Quad Mag 19 Turn in my T4 and I think they both work great. I love working on, and upgrading, my RC's as much as I like bashing them!

[Vato Loco]

is there any reason to install the aluminum idler gear before the plastic one strips?
nope................My theory is run it till it breaks then fix it, but buy the replacement before they break to limit the down time! If you stay stock you should run for a while before you'll have to replace your Idler!

[MrCrash]

The Pede is off to the races :D I can't wait to see how I do in stock class.

[glacierangel]

Well i got a ss5800 system, so my idler shouldn't last long. :D
I do have a replacement though.

[BIGDADDYV]

Aluminum ones from Tower are like 10 bucks .... part number is 1996x ... Your gonna need it ...

[Toothypaste]

Vato Loco,

Seeking some insight. I installed new RPM front carriers on my Stampede. Now the tires are rubbing on the A-arms when I try and turn. I have lost a significant amount of my turning radius. The tire opposite the way I am turning jams up on the A-arm, not allowing any kind of sharp turn, even at slow speeds. The stock front carriers allowed for wicked sharp turns. What did I do wrong? Please let me know what you think.



This is an easy mistake to make - make sure the front wheels are on the front and that the back wheels are on the back.

[gallen32]

Toothypaste,

You were dead on. I had the wheels backwards. Thanks for the help. This has been bugging me all week.

[MrCrash]

Well, racing was fun! I made the C Main (third from last :D), and DNFed the main because my steering servo died :o I had just put a new servo saver on it after the old one died, and within two races, this happened:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v257/98DakotaSport/RC/IMG_1865.jpg

I can't wait to go back next week :cool:

[rhcsavage21]

i'm still in wonderment as to how that happened.

[MrCrash]

I think it was gremlins :p

[evst 360]

i'm still in wonderment as to how that happened.
maybe it has something to do with his name :D j/k

[MrCrash]

I swear! That steel i-beam wasn't there the previous lap!

[BIGDADDYV]

They tend to sprout quickly and you need to watch for them form lap to lap .... They are also very unforgiving .......

[MrCrash]

Very true. Still, I was impressed that I hit it dead on at full speed, and I only cracked the servo case (it even survived another 3 hours of racing, which included practice laps, and three qualifiers. I didn't notice a problem till it exploded). There wasn't a scratch on the truck :)

[TunaCan Charlie]

Well, racing was fun! I made the C Main (third from last :D), and DNFed the main because my steering servo died :o I had just put a new servo saver on it after the old one died, and within two races, this happened:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v257/98DakotaSport/RC/IMG_1865.jpg

I can't wait to go back next week :cool:

Can you take those steel gears, and rebuild a cheapie plastic servo with 'em?

[TunaCan Charlie]

Ya know, I must be really hard on vehicles.

So far on my XL-5, I've broken a rear camber link, a shock cap, a front skid plate and a servo-saver/horn. Everyone keeps saying that they never break parts on these 'Pedes. Hmmmm..... :confused:

[z-man280]

rear camber link is a new one Steve, but everything else i have grenaded at least 1 or 9 times.

[TunaCan Charlie]

Could be that when the truck survives one ridiculous stunt, I hit the same thing again because it didn't break the first time and I figger it will "take it". Like landing 15'-20' jumps onto asphalt time and time again? WHEE!!!

[z-man280]

YES!!!!!!

Granted, you will find the traxxas-bashers all over here, but,..

as an owner, now you know the truth: Stampedes are TOUGH!

drive it like ya stole it, beat it like a circus monkey, watch it beg like a dog for more.

[BIGDADDYV]

Ahmen Brotha Ron !!!!!!!!!!! Testify !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :d

[TunaCan Charlie]

drive it like ya stole it, beat it like a circus monkey, watch it beg like a dog for more.

HAHAHA..HA..HA..HA......HA.........HA...........HA !

Love it!!


...can I get a witness!!...

[MrCrash]

Can you take those steel gears, and rebuild a cheapie plastic servo with 'em?
I dunno. I'm just gonna order a new case, because even though it literally flew apart on the track, every gear was found, and they appear to be in perfect condition. I might upgrade in the future to a waterproof servo.

[Toothypaste]

Gee Mr. Crash! As soon as I see your busted servo, I manage to bust the case off mine! lol

Remember when I was moaning about my wheel hex hubs having been ground down into circles? Well now I have the aluminium ones, the hex slots on the wheels have smoothed themselves out!

The pede really IS tough! :D Unfortunately electronics aren't...and that's the expense.

[Toothypaste]

I've gone and broken the on/off switch on my mm. I can still switch it, it just requires sharp fingernails...

I pretty much landed the pede from a killer jump into the wall of a chicken house. I'm sure it came out of nowhere :confused:

[Vato Loco]

those MM switchs sux! I to replace mine......got a nice one from radio shack!

[Toothypaste]

I hope the mm will last...

Future problems could be a nightmare for me and any form of International customer service is expensive.

[TunaCan Charlie]

Guys!!!

Look at your Stampede chassis. Theres a spot there where the switch for the Mamba Max slides right in and it even has screw holes!!!! You may have to cut a little bit for the wire to slide through, but it's so easy.

Enough about the switch!!!