Traxxas Stampede Forum

[juntom10]

nice!

i want to see inside....

esc, motor etc

[BIGDADDYV]

its a stampede Jun .... 4200 batteries a speed gems 10turn pyrite and a super rooster esc ...... Nothing special really ... :D

[sunshine_monkey]

I like the paint job on the body in the last picture. The shocks look nice as well. Can't wait to get mine.

Man the weather sucks around here. Nothing but rain, sleet, or snow! Where is spring for crying out loud! :mad:

At least it gives me a little more time to get my Pede together. My T4 and GT2 are ready to rip! :D

[juntom10]

Ib4200????

[BIGDADDYV]

duratrax 4200 with deans

[sunshine_monkey]

I got my body masked off last night. I'm just doing a Black body with an Orange flame down each side and one down the middle of the hood and roof. It's my first try so we'll see how it goes. I'm going to pick up some Pactra spray cans from the LHS after work.

[BIGDADDYV]

ya gotta give us some shots of your ride when your done with the lid ..... :D we like pics around here :D :D

[sunshine_monkey]

Will do......even if it looks like a piece of poo.

[BIGDADDYV]

Heap of dung or not man its your ride and you did it your way ;) ..... Thats one of the things i tell my friends (most have only been in the hobby for a few months) what ever you build make it your own ...... Good bad or ugly or heck all 3 you can say you did it :D

[BIGDADDYV]

Besides, mine may not look like a million dollar ride but try to catch it :D ...... Proof is in the performance I always say :D ..... You can shine a turd really bright but at the end of the day you only have a shiny piece of poop .... Be happy with whatcha have :D

( Words to live by up there folks :D )

[juntom10]

what rc cars do you have bigdaddyv??

[BIGDADDYV]

in the Stable that is Big Daddy we have ....... Traxxas Emaxx , 2 Stampedes , Rustler .... Team Associated TC3, Tamiya Lunchbox and Wild Willy, Duratrax Evader St, and a Batmobile ... Onfna MBX 1/8 scale buggy converted to run on a weedwhacker motor .... :D DONT ASK it runs :D

Now the list of has had rides is much much longer ...... I like to thin the herd every 6-12 months to keep the clutter down ....... Besides if they sit too long they are concidered shelf queens and we arent having that here at the Casa D'Big V ;)

since I have stopped my nitro habit alltogether the herd got really small ...... I cant do nitro ...... Plug and PLay is the ONLY WAY ...

[sunshine_monkey]

Besides, mine may not look like a million dollar ride but try to catch it :D ...... Proof is in the performance I always say :D ..... You can shine a turd really bright but at the end of the day you only have a shiny piece of poop .... Be happy with whatcha have :D

( Words to live by up there folks :D )

HaHaHaHaHa......so true. :D

I ended up getting Pactra Daytona Yellow, Metallic Black, and some Indy Silver to back the Yellow. I'm going to get to work tomorrow. I hope to have picks up on Sunday or Monday.

[juntom10]

haha

i love electric...

i've never tried nitro...but that is so loud....

electric is very comfortable to me!!

oh..

you have 2 pede ;ㅁ;

2 stadium truck...

but no buggy????

[BIGDADDYV]

So what your saying is you want me to take the brace out of the front of my rusty and make it a Bandit ....... LOL ......

[sunshine_monkey]

A buggy huh? I'm in the process of finishing the upgrades on my Pede and then it's on to the XXX-S Graphite Plus. I have 2 Stadium Trucks (T4 and GT2) a 2WD Monster Truck, and now the onroad Touring Car. What should I do next? I was thinking about a B4 (I do love Associated, except for the TC4 I had) or maybe an E-Maxx. I kind of want to see how much I enjoy the GT2. If I don't get that enthralled with Nitro I might go for a brushless E-Maxx (man that sounds like another money pit! :eek: ), but if I really like Nitro then I will probably get an MGT, Revo, or a Truggie.

Man, RC is a disease.....:D

[juntom10]

So what your saying is you want me to take the brace out of the front of my rusty and make it a Bandit ....... LOL ......
lol

get a new bandit!!

and show us a pic of traxxas family!!

:D

[BIGDADDYV]

Agreed Monkey It Is A Disease :d

[juntom10]

A buggy huh? I'm in the process of finishing the upgrades on my Pede and then it's on to the XXX-S Graphite Plus. I have 2 Stadium Trucks (T4 and GT2) a 2WD Monster Truck, and now the onroad Touring Car. What should I do next? I was thinking about a B4 (I do love Associated, except for the TC4 I had) or maybe an E-Maxx. I kind of want to see how much I enjoy the GT2. If I don't get that enthralled with Nitro I might go for a brushless E-Maxx (man that sounds like another money pit! :eek: ), but if I really like Nitro then I will probably get an MGT, Revo, or a Truggie.

Man, RC is a disease.....:D
I don't have buggy either..

but buggy looks really fun...even though you don't want to race(for bashing)

how's the gt2?

Although i don't like nitro, gt2 looks cool....

EMaxx brushless...umm...you need at lease 1 grand bucks :eek:

emaxx + brushless set = at least 600 bucks

+ lipo (at least 100bucks per 1 lipo) + lipo charger(if you don't have), cell balancer + lot of options for brushless(stronger diff, cvds...)

more than 1000bucks..

haha

go buggy!!

and show us a pic

:D:D:D:D:D

[juntom10]

Agreed Monkey It Is A Disease :d
me either..

i started the rc since last october...

i have 3 cars..;(mini lst is broken.... rc18b, xxx t mf2)

and waiting for stampede

haha

i want more...

[juntom10]

B4 is cool buggy.

but i don't know why associated do not make more factory team kit(B4, T4)

tower only have B4 team kit, B4, T4 RS version..(no factory teamkit, and not t4 team kit)

that's why i bought xxx t mf2...instead of T4 factory team kit

[sunshine_monkey]

Dude, you have to look at Ebay. I bought my T4 FT for about $180. It was only 3 months old and in great shape. It came in the original box with everything. It also had a set of mounted Proline Dirt Hawgs (the orginal wheels and tires were not even glued together) another carbon fiber chassis, an extra set of carbon fiber front and rear A-Arms, and a FT spring set. That was the best RC deal I have snagged so far on Ebay. I love buying stuff that someone bought, used a couple of times, and then decided they didn't like. Let them take the initial hit and then swoop in for a sweet deal on "almost new" equipment. :D

$1000 for a brushless E-Maxx? Yeah, that sounds close. That's why I really want to see if I like Nitro. I could get an MGT or a Savage for way less.

I do love brushless though....:cool:

[Toothypaste]

Bigdaddy:

On the other pede thread you said you were only running on 6 cells.

I'm just gobsmacked you got your tyres that big and are able to outrun an e-maxx on only 6 cells...and not brushless

Well done :D

So what do you reckon about my suggestion of trying 14cells? :D

[BIGDADDYV]

Well Toothy, my Super rooster is only able to handle 10 cells ..... SO that will be about the max that I wouldbe willing to go ...... NOW if i was to take my extra EVX and wire that in it might be a bunch of fun ..... I actually took that Pede in the video back to a 20t stinger motor for a lil bit so i can do some massive jumping and not have to worry about over rotation of the tires pressing my front end down ..... Those MOABS throw off some air BIG TIME ...... They are like landing on a nice big pillow .... :D .......

[sunshine_monkey]

I'm done painting the lid for my Pede!:eek:

I'll take some pics and be right back. I still have to take the Dremel to the edges of the body to smooth it out some. I also don't have the stickers like the head lights and grill on it yet, but you'll get more pics later.

Be gentle guys I'm a body painting virgin!:rolleyes:

[juntom10]

i got new soldering iron!

http://forums.radiocontrolzone.com/showthread.php?t=236780

[sunshine_monkey]

My Pede with it's new Proline Jato F-150 body! :D

I'm happy how it turned out for my first try.:cool:

[sunshine_monkey]

And now some shots without the lid for Juntom...;)

The first pick shows the Swami Bar and my custom rear mount....as well as my Mamba Max ESC :D

The second pick shows some Dremel work I did so my batteries would fit better (side by side packs).

I decided to go with a Hitec Agressor FM radio I picked up cheap off of Ebay. The two Spektrum receivers I have are in the GT2 and the other is being shared by the T4 and the XXX-S.

I should have my Duratrax Evader ST shocks later this week. What do you guys think so far?!

[sunshine_monkey]

Some more pics with the stickers on......


Let me know what you think! popcorn

[glacierangel]

That body makes your stampede look fast... I wouldn't want to race it :D

[Vato Loco]

S. Monkey,

Looks good, now hurry up and put some scratches on it, No scratchs=no fun!

[sunshine_monkey]

Yeah, that was what I was thinking while I was doing the body.......it's gonna get destroyed! Oh welll.... :D

[BIGDADDYV]

If its not broke, twisted, in need of ebing wrenched on, scratched, or twisted your not having fun :D ........ Not my rule but i have to abide by it like everyone else in RC world ...... Nice looking ride man ... ;)

yepp I twisted some parts yesterday before the rains came :(

[juntom10]

OOOH

that thing looks great!!

DID you do any mod ??(lowering body mount or etc)

mamba...

i want to see some vids!!

and i'm still waiting..

[sunshine_monkey]

Juntom, get part number TRX1914 Rustler body mount kit (Thanks Mr. Crash) and modify the rear mount. I wanted to get a sporty body and have it sit a little lower.

[MrCrash]

That looks really sharp! I honestly think a Pede looks best with a lowered body on it, and that Jato body fits it perfectly!

[juntom10]

i can't wait my pede....

;(

[sunshine_monkey]

Thanks Crash! I really like the look of the lower body as well. You can get the same body in a Chevy Silverado form. If this body was any longer it wouldn't have lined up right. We'll see how the body holds up. I'm a little worried about the front body posts because they are so far out bt the edges. I'll put some tape on the bottom of the body around the holes. Maybe next time I wiil mod the front body posts as well.

[BIGDADDYV]

i can't wait my pede....

;(

Jun, I dont know how you do it ..... If i dont have my stuff from Tower in 3 days after hitting the last keystroke i go NUTZ !!!!!!!!!!!!!! Not a far trip for me if ya havent guessed but i get there :D

[MrCrash]

Thanks Crash! I really like the look of the lower body as well. You can get the same body in a Chevy Silverado form. If this body was any longer it wouldn't have lined up right. We'll see how the body holds up. I'm a little worried about the front body posts because they are so far out bt the edges. I'll put some tape on the bottom of the body around the holes. Maybe next time I wiil mod the front body posts as well.
If it goes anything like mine did, your gonna destroy the area around the rear body mounts first. The fronts hold up extremely well.

[juntom10]

It takes too long to ship to canada...(i live in ontario..)

last time...it took 2 weeks..

but this time....takes longer..(almost 3 weeks...dang!)

[glacierangel]

I'm still waiting for my stampede to be working again... a-arms just won't show up.
Soon though... it's gonna hit the new track near my house :D
Those nitros had better watch out! :D

[juntom10]

oh my god

finally i got the pede!!

damn canada post!

pede arrived here about 10days ago, but they didn't give me a first notice

and today i got finally notice..

i was happend one time few month ago..

anyway

pede is so tough!

speed is not fast. but really nice basher!

i will install the rpm bearing carrier, and bumper tonight.

yayayaya

and i installed the moab to xxx t mf2..

man...moab is so nice.

moab grip = bond

haha

so nice on the grass...

my xxx t wheelie on the grass with moab!!

i will post the pic tonight

[juntom10]

http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r19/juntom10/DSCF0601.jpg

[juntom10]

more pics
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[juntom10]

i installed the rpm front/rear bearing carrier. and rpm front bumper.

i will post pic later with rpm bumper :D

[BIGDADDYV]

ITS ABOUT DAMN TIME :D ..... Ejoy it ;)

[juntom10]

ITS ABOUT DAMN TIME :D ..... Ejoy it ;)
Thanks :D

[juntom10]

what a beauty!!

heehee :D

http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r19/juntom10/DSCF0611.jpg

[juntom10]

http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r19/juntom10/IMG_5585.jpg
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[BIGDADDYV]

I guess your happy with your new ride ;)

[juntom10]

I guess your happy with your new ride ;)
of course!!

:D

I think i need more batteries ....(i have 3 pack batteries(ib3600), and one unassembled ib4200 battery...)

;)

[juntom10]

after big funn...

need to buy front bulk head, tie rod.....

[BIGDADDYV]

Bulkheads and Camber links are stock items ......... LOL ........ I would upgrade as soon as you have the cash to do it ...... I make my own out of t-6 aluminum ....... I will try to find a pic and post it for ya if you need some ideas .....

[BIGDADDYV]

Here ya go .... I hope this gives you some ideas in the right direction if you decide to make some ..... ;)

http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s57/BIGDADDY_V/Custompedeparts.jpg

[juntom10]

my lhs don't have aluminum one

[juntom10]

can i replace the gray camber link(toe link??) by steel turnbuckle from traxxas?

if so...what size??

[juntom10]

ummmmm stock bulkhead is 7 bucks at LHS..(canada)

[sunshine_monkey]

I took my Pede out yesterday and beat it like a rented mule! :eek: No breakage after multiple jumps off a 6' retaing wall. I also took it for a ride through the new construction areas in our Condo complex. Lots of dirt and dirt mounds! Let's just say that nicely painted body doesn't look so nice anymore. It's still in one piece but it does have some good scratches now! :D

I had my GP3300's in the Pede with my Mamba Max 4600. Gearing was 17/87. It would wheelie all day long if I held the trigger down. I had the slipper backed off about 3/4 of a turn. The motor wasn't super hot (it was uncomfortable to my finger after touching it for 4-5 seconds) and the ESC was warn to the touch, but not as warm as the motor. Does this sound OK or should I change the gearing? I know I don't need any more torque. :D

The total run was close to 30 minutes with multiple jumps (most landed on all four), cartwheels, and various other abuse. The Pede came out of it with only scratches. I'm happy with that!

I'll get some pics up later tonight.

Juntom......get some RPM A-Arms on that Pede, and don't hit things with your tire.;)

[JDT]

sunshine, I just noticed yesterday harbor freight has there temp gauges for $6.99, they are all over michigan, I am sure there is one within 20 miles of your house

[sunshine_monkey]

Thanks JDT. I have a Duratrax temp gun for my GT2. That's a good deal from Harbor Freight though.

What is a good temp for the Mamba motor anyways?

[sunshine_monkey]

I'm going to use the stock tires and wheels this year but next year I'm going to get some Slingshot's and Moab's. The stock tires don't hook up well on Asphalt. They are OK in loose dirt.

[BIGDADDYV]

Moabs Rule !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :d

[JDT]

Thanks JDT. I have a Duratrax temp gun for my GT2. That's a good deal from Harbor Freight though.

What is a good temp for the Mamba motor anyways?

castle says you are good if you keep the motor under 200, the esc is supposed to thermal and shut off at 200 but mine read 210 the one time I have thermalled it on 3s, the esc will (should) protect itself the motor will not so its what you need to watch closely as over 200 starts to cause issues with the magnet, not sure if its a demagnetizing thing or a heat induced fractures and failures that are the problem, I hope to not find out lol.

[JDT]

I guess I didn't mention, set up right tire and gear wise I usually see about 140-160 on the esc and 155-180 on the motor after a decent 10 or so minute session, if I run 20 or more minutes they are both usually in the 175-180 range.

[Vato Loco]

Moabs Rule !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :d
I second that!

[juntom10]

moab is really nice!!!

[juntom10]

compare size of allt, masher, moab tires...(i got this pic from other forum)

all t is really big...

[Vato Loco]

Two words, Rolling Mass! The Moabs have a crazy deep treads and out of all three tires are the lightest, higer speeds! the Imex tires are BIG, but the tread is made of a hard rubber and weigh a ton! JMO, go with the Moabs! Check this out I was puting a lawn job on this grassed in ditch! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cCMNplSXOOk You'll love the moabs the most, they grip on everything! chris

[juntom10]

Two words, Rolling Mass! The Moabs have a crazy deep treads and out of all three tires are the lightest, higer speeds! the Imex tires are BIG, but the tread is made of a hard rubber and weigh a ton! JMO, go with the Moabs! Check this out I was puting a lawn job on this grassed in ditch! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cCMNplSXOOk You'll love the moabs the most, they grip on everything! chris
what motor do you use?

[sunshine_monkey]

Some pics of my Bash session. My wife took the pics. She said I looked like a kid with a new toy. :D

[juntom10]

that looks sporty :D

today..i will go LHS and find some pede parts...(bulk head, turn buckle, wheelie bar)

[sunshine_monkey]

This is what my Pede looked like afterwards......notice the scratches. :rolleyes:

[Vato Loco]

what motor do you use?
a mamba maxx 5700 and a123 2s2p cells! :wave:

[juntom10]

dang..

LHS(1 hour from my house lol) doesn't have bulk head..

i need to order from some where...

are there any good place to buy?? except tower..

[sunshine_monkey]

Toyhaus. These guys are cool. I've ordered from them before. Check out their store on Ebay. I know they ship to Canada but I have no idea how much it is. You might want to contact them.

Here is a link to the bulkhead.

http://cgi.ebay.com/TRA2530A-2530A-Bulkhead-Front-Gray_W0QQitemZ110098336622QQihZ001QQcategoryZ34063 QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQcmdZViewItem

[juntom10]

oh thanks...i sent a pm to seller....

if shipping price is good, i will order the bulk head with other stuffs :D

[juntom10]

dang...shipping cost starts at $20 .......

not cheap....:(

[glacierangel]

Here's my stampede now that I got it fixed:
http://jaalmann.com/sites/jaalmann.com/files/images/Stampede%20aluminum%20arms%20and%20masher%202k%200 02.preview.jpg
And here's a close up of the new arm:
http://jaalmann.com/sites/jaalmann.com/files/images/Stampede%20aluminum%20arms%20and%20masher%202k%200 01.preview.jpg

Here is my overly complete upgrade listing:
• Aluminum shock caps
• Paint tray body
• Novak ss5800 brushless system
• Swami bar and brace
• Aluminum Idler Gear
• 15/86 gearing
• Duratrax 5x11 bearings
• RPM Bearing carriers
• 2 NiMH GP 3900 Team Orion Rocket Stick Pack batteries
• Deans connectors
• RPM wide front bumper
• A piece of metal on the bumper to avoid wheelies a little bit
• Velcro Battery Strap
• Velcro Gear Cover
• Shortened front body mounts
• FLM Aluminum front extended a-arms
• Proline Masher 2000 tires
• RPM revolver wheels
• Team losi tire glue
• Fuel tubing antenna case
• Rubber band receiver holder
• Titanium turnbuckles
• Steel camber links in front

It can fly now :D. Yesterday I went to the track with it and drove around a while, then did backflips! Nothing broken, even with a 15 foot fall onto its back.

[juntom10]

i installed the gmade wheel widener...

see the pic...

compare the front(stock) and rear(widener)

:D

umm

but i need spare parts to fix my pede....

stormerhobbies is good?

[Adanmtxt1]

Wow, and I thought the Stampede was already wide enough! Looks really good! :) For parts, you might look at RL Hobbies http://www.rlhobbies.com/store.php . I have used them before, and it's a really good place. It turns out orders very quickly and usually has good prices.


I am curious: for my XL-5 Stampede, would the Orion SV2 15 turn be a good choice, or would I be better off with the 17T? I know I'll need to gear down to around 15 teeth on the pinion. Would this yield some wheelie poppin' power?

[juntom10]

oops...i can not find the bulk head from that site...

[MrCrash]

Looks nice! You can never have the truck wide enough. Mine is right around 14" wide at the moment :D

I just wanted to share a pic of my new body, and you can kinda see my re-modded front suspension. The front has a good bit more travel then before :D

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v257/98DakotaSport/RC/2-1.jpg

[glacierangel]

I've heard really good things about the 17 turn.
There are a lot of threads about those motors if you do a search here:
http://monster.traxxas.com/forumdisplay.php?f=39

[juntom10]

Looks nice! You can never have the truck wide enough. Mine is right around 14" wide at the moment :D

I just wanted to share a pic of my new body, and you can kinda see my re-modded front suspension. The front has a good bit more travel then before :D

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v257/98DakotaSport/RC/2-1.jpg
i love that body!

is that from proline??

any modifications needed?

and i want to see the inside pic!!

[nick f]

Ok, had the Stampede for some time know. Time to make it a little more fun.

Purchased the SV2 BB 15T, running with a 13T pinion and stock 86T spur on a XL5,with RS GP 3300 with stock tires, Broke the motor in with 5 minutes on 4v.

Ran it today, I'm sorry I'm not impressed. It was marginally faster than the Titian with the identical setup. The new motor got extremly hot, could not keep my finger there longer than 1 second, if that.

Observations:
1) My batteries are noticablly hotter when the pack is done with.
2) ESC still very cool.
3) Battery wire and stock connectors. Wires hot, connectors sorta melted together, or just started to, I got them apart but you can see the melted palstic inside the traxxas female connetor from the ESC.

Conclusions:
I understand the stock connectors suck and I plan on changing to Powerpoles, this is why the battery, connectors and wire are so hot, but why is my motor on the verge of frying?. Why is this setup not that much faster then the Titan? Am I being unrealsitic?

Thanks
Nick F

[MrCrash]

It's the Pro-Line "The Baja". I dunno if it would fit a non-wide Pede, but it seems you already have that covered ;) I just needed to use a modified rear body mount, and a rustler front body mount.

I'll try and get some decent shots of it minus the body soon.

[juntom10]

shipping cost from stormer hobbies is 9 bucks :D

wheelie bar, hinge pin, shock diaphram, bulk head, rpm camber link, 2 pinions,

:D

i will order these tonight :D

[sunshine_monkey]

Man, it must suck living in Canada when it comes to getting parts....:(

Stormer is good. They usually get parts to me in 2-3 days, but I live in the USA.

Juntom, can you post a link to where you got those gmade wheel widener's? That might be something I want to look at.

Crash, what kind of wheels and tires are those?

PS- Nice body on that Pede! :D

[Adanmtxt1]

Ok, had the Stampede for some time know. Time to make it a little more fun.

Purchased the SV2 BB 15T, running with a 13T pinion and stock 86T spur on a XL5,with RS GP 3300 with stock tires, Broke the motor in with 5 minutes on 4v.

Ran it today, I'm sorry I'm not impressed. It was marginally faster than the Titian with the identical setup. The new motor got extremly hot, could not keep my finger there longer than 1 second, if that.

Observations:
1) My batteries are noticablly hotter when the pack is done with.
2) ESC still very cool.
3) Battery wire and stock connectors. Wires hot, connectors sorta melted together, or just started to, I got them apart but you can see the melted palstic inside the traxxas female connetor from the ESC.

Conclusions:
I understand the stock connectors suck and I plan on changing to Powerpoles, this is why the battery, connectors and wire are so hot, but why is my motor on the verge of frying?. Why is this setup not that much faster then the Titan? Am I being unrealsitic?

Thanks
Nick F


I have heard a lot of positive feedback concerning the Orion SV2 series mod motors in Stampede applications. I have also heard that the 17T is the way to go, as the 15T tends to heat up and doesn't provide the necessary torque, even if you gear further down. With the 17T, you can run 15/86 gearing or maybe 16/86, which because of the little extra torque (and despite the minimal decrease in max rpm) tends to pull harder, and because of the taller gearing, actually reaches a higher top speed than the 15T! :roll2:

Although the upgraded connectors (powerpoles or Deans) will make a difference, you might be better off getting the 17T, which is what I will probably do in a few weeks. If you are set on the 15T, you could do several things (in addition to the powerpoles): run a heatsink on the motor; firmer brush springs to increase torque (at the minimal expense of rpm), which would make the motor's job easier; go down one more tooth on the pinion, or up one on the spur. The issue with the last one (shorter gear ratio), is that although the motor cools down, the top speed really starts to drop off, and it loses its fun.

[juntom10]

Man, it must suck living in Canada when it comes to getting parts....:(

Stormer is good. They usually get parts to me in 2-3 days, but I live in the USA.

Juntom, can you post a link to where you got those gmade wheel widener's? That might be something I want to look at.

Crash, what kind of wheels and tires are those?

PS- Nice body on that Pede! :D
you can get the widener from here
http://www.thecrawlerstore.com/tires_wheels.html
2.2" wheel widener for tlt..

mine is old one...(silver colour)

but that widener at crawler store is newer version which is red colour, lighter.

[juntom10]

do i have to buy plastic top gear for aluminum idle gear?

[sunshine_monkey]

For those of you running a Wider Pede, what's the advantage? It looks like these will add 1" on each side for a total of 2" extra width. I don't want to do the whole FLM thing but these wheel wideners look cool. Any comments?

[juntom10]

i don't run the pede yet..because i need parts :(

have you ever use stormer??

do they show the shipping fee when you are check out?

[juntom10]

i noticed that one hinge pin, and screw pin are bend :(

and one shock diaphram is disappeared..

so i need order those too..:(

[MrCrash]

Crash, what kind of wheels and tires are those?

PS- Nice body on that Pede! :D
Thanks :D They are Pro-Line Moabs on RPM Revolvers.

For those of you running a Wider Pede, what's the advantage? It looks like these will add 1" on each side for a total of 2" extra width. I don't want to do the whole FLM thing but these wheel wideners look cool. Any comments?
I can't say anything for sure about the wheel widener method, but using extended arms, you get better stability, better handling, and more front suspension travel. My truck used to flip every other time I turned, now I can almost keep up with the stadium trucks on the track :D

[MrCrash]

do i have to buy plastic top gear for aluminum idle gear?
Nope. That would make getting the aluminum gear pointless. Just put some extra grease in the case, and it'll be good ;)

[juntom10]

i ordered these things...
Part # Description Qty B/o Price Ea. Ext. Price
RPM81262 Heavy Duty Camber Links for Rustler and Stampede (4) 1 $4.95 $4.95
TRX1765 Rubber shock diaphragms for Rustler, Stampede & T-Maxx (4) 1 $1.95 $1.95
TRX2530A Rustler/Stampede Front Bulkhead, grey 1 $4.95 $4.95
TRX3739 Rustler/Stampede Screw Pin Set 1 $4.50 $4.50
TRX3740 Rustler/Stampede King Pins, 2.5 x 31.5mm with e-clips (2) 1 $2.50 $2.50
Part # Description Qty B/o Price Ea. Ext. Price
TRX4690 Rustler/Stampede Spur Gear-48 pitch, 90 tooth 1 $2.95 $2.95
TRX3678 Wheelie Bar for Rustler, Stampede, Bandit 1 $12.95 $12.95
TRX1996X Rustler & Stampede Idler Gear, 30 tooth, aluminum 1 $11.95 $11.95
TRX3195X 22T TOP GEAR, delrin for RUSTLER and STAMPEDE 1 $5.95 $5.95

[juntom10]

Nope. That would make getting the aluminum gear pointless. Just put some extra grease in the case, and it'll be good ;)
oops..i saw your quote after i ordered...

but that's ok :D

i have one more spare then.. :D

[juntom10]

i'm waiting answer from the stormer(about shipping)

maybe i will get the answer tomorrow.

anyway....weather is so bad here...

too windy(60km/h), rainy...

i want to play with my RC!

:D

[T-Maxxahol]

can this truck be widened.... and what is ithe best way.. !!! arms or spacers what parts are needed ?

[BIGDADDYV]

rears i think are as wide as you can go ..... if you want more space upfront you can use rear arms on the fronts too .... Whats your plan with it ???

[juntom10]

anyone tried swami stampede 4x4 conversion?

[juntom10]

Mr crash // can i ask your pede's hop up list?

:D

[MrCrash]

Mr crash // can i ask your pede's hop up list?

:D
Oh dear. I hate to think about it, but here goes...

Mamba Maxx 5700Kv system
RPM rear arms at both ends
Jato camber links
Lunsford titanium steering links
Lunsford titanium 4mm hinge pins up front (I kept bending pins, and went overkill :D)
Duratrax Evader rear shocks front and rear
FLM front caster blocks for the nitro rustler
nitro rustler steering blocks
nitro rustler shock tower
cut down original steering link as a shock tower brace
RPM rear blocks
Ofna buggy drive cups
HPI Savage dog bones
Aluminum idler gear
Kimbrough spur gear w/steel diff balls in place of the pegs
RPM front bumper and gear cover
modded rustler body mounts
Pro-Line Moabs on RPM Revolver rims
sealed (kinda) diff w/100k weight oil
JR XS3 radio w/JR Z590 servo

I think that's about it :D

[juntom10]

oooh

kimborough spur is super smooth!

[MrCrash]

Yup. Too bad I keep melting them from the inside out :D

[juntom10]

your pede is old one..so you can use kimborough spur..

but mine is xl5 one..so i can only use the traxxas spur...??

[MrCrash]

You are correct. I'm thinking of upgrading to the new slipper, since the older one seems to not hold up well to the insane power of a Mamba Max :D

However, it could just be due to me having everything but the timing cranked up for maximum power :D

[glacierangel]

Oh dear. I hate to think about it, but here goes...

Mamba Maxx 5700Kv system
RPM rear arms at both ends
Jato camber links
Lunsford titanium steering links
Lunsford titanium 4mm hinge pins up front (I kept bending pins, and went overkill :D)
Duratrax Evader rear shocks front and rear
FLM front caster blocks for the nitro rustler
nitro rustler steering blocks
nitro rustler shock tower
cut down original steering link as a shock tower brace
RPM rear blocks
Ofna buggy drive cups
HPI Savage dog bones
Aluminum idler gear
Kimbrough spur gear w/steel diff balls in place of the pegs
RPM front bumper and gear cover
modded rustler body mounts
Pro-Line Moabs on RPM Revolver rims
sealed (kinda) diff w/100k weight oil
JR XS3 radio w/JR Z590 servo

I think that's about it :D

Haha my hop-up list is bigger! :D yours only has 20 and mine has 23! :D Now what did I forget... :D
You need to expand yours a little... Moab tires don't go on the same line as revolver rims. :rolleyes:

[juntom10]

You are correct. I'm thinking of upgrading to the new slipper, since the older one seems to not hold up well to the insane power of a Mamba Max :D

However, it could just be due to me having everything but the timing cranked up for maximum power :D
get a new slipper and try! :D:D:D:D:D:D:D

[BIGDADDYV]

Jun, you can change yours over to a kimbrough spur ..... I would personally beat the life out of what you have right now then upgrade ..... well that and order it like 3 months in advanced because of how long it takes you to get parts and kits :D ......

[juntom10]

i see...:D

next time...i will buy bunch of spares..with some options...

when i get the gst back (200 bucks) :D:D:D:D

[juntom10]

shipping cost of these items is $10.50 :D(from stormer)
not bad at all :D

Part # Description Qty B/o Price Ea. Ext. Price
RPM81262 Heavy Duty Camber Links for Rustler and Stampede (4) 1 $4.95 $4.95
TRX1765 Rubber shock diaphragms for Rustler, Stampede & T-Maxx (4) 1 $1.95 $1.95
TRX2530A Rustler/Stampede Front Bulkhead, grey 1 $4.95 $4.95
TRX3739 Rustler/Stampede Screw Pin Set 1 $4.50 $4.50
TRX3740 Rustler/Stampede King Pins, 2.5 x 31.5mm with e-clips (2) 1 $2.50 $2.50
TRX4690 Rustler/Stampede Spur Gear-48 pitch, 90 tooth 1 $2.95 $2.95
TRX3678 Wheelie Bar for Rustler, Stampede, Bandit 1 $12.95 $12.95
TRX1996X Rustler & Stampede Idler Gear, 30 tooth, aluminum 1 $11.95 $11.95
TRX3195X 22T TOP GEAR, delrin for RUSTLER and STAMPEDE 1 $5.95 $5.95

[juntom10]

one good thing of stampede is...

stock diff is steel bevel gear...

i hate ball diff... i hate rebuild, and tighten up the ball diff errg(i need to those thing for my 18b....)

[juntom10]

umm

finally stormer add the shipping cost to my total...:D

total is 61 bucks... with shipping cost :D

i can't wait

i wanna play with pede asap!

[cooleocool]

I hear you on the ball diffs. There's one in my Street Sport and I don't like it at all... :(...

[sunshine_monkey]

Ball diffs work great if you know how to adjust them and keep them properly maintained. The ball diff in my T4 is silky smooth!

[juntom10]

i know the ball diff is smooth..but i'm lazy...lol

[Adanmtxt1]

Personally, I feel as though ball diffs belong on touring cars, and in no other applications. I always worry that they are too loose in my TC4, and I'll scortch the rings, but I never have trouble (knock knock). In an off-road vehicle (especially nitro), it seems as though gear diffs are the most appropriate durability-wise.

[juntom10]

umm stormer didn't s send my stuffs yet...

[Ibjamn552]

anyone tried swami stampede 4x4 conversion?

I can't remember which one I did, but I did the widening using rear arms on front, and front rims on all 4.

I love it, it handles like crazy. :D

[glacierangel]

I got my backflip jump to work... kinda crazy. If I hit it at WOT with a short gravel run up it goes almost 15 feet in the air! (ss5800 power). Works great for backflips too.
Pics coming soon, i hope.

[juntom10]

finally stormer shipped my stuffs!

[sunshine_monkey]

In an off-road vehicle (especially nitro), it seems as though gear diffs are the most appropriate durability-wise.

For larger scale vehicles I would agree, but for 1/10 scale stadium trucks I still say a ball diff works great. It's worked for the RC10GT for 15 years...

I will say the gear diff in the HPI Firestorm looks like a good design.

[juntom10]

i will also get the hitec 03mt receiver...

i have a futaba 3pm-fm..

and i will use pede's stock radio for my mini lst later..:D

[juntom10]

For larger scale vehicles I would agree, but for 1/10 scale stadium trucks I still say a ball diff works great. It's worked for the RC10GT for 15 years...

I will say the gear diff in the HPI Firestorm looks like a good design.
my xxx t mf2 with novak 4.5R is great..

that ball diff is great...still great without maintanance...

but mini lst and rc18b's ball diff are....lol

[sunshine_monkey]

Yeah, I had an RC18T with a Mamba system in it but I got bored with it. I thought it was kind of a pain to work on as well.

The Pede and my T4 are easy to wrench on. :D

[quori]

Question for anyone out there....

I have a Stampede that I put in a new 12T P94 and the XL10 esc. The reason why I did that was because I seemingly blew the transmission in it (it stopped going into gear at all), so while I rebuilt it with a new spur gear and such I figured, hey why not add more power :)

I seem to be having the same problem...it stopped getting into gear. Should I buy the proball diff and a brand new spur gear? What could I be doing wrong? Anyone have a picture based step by step available to rebuilding its back end?

Any help would be great. My 6 year old daughter gets to run that around the park while I run my new Jato. With Summer on its way, I want to get it running again for her :D

[sunshine_monkey]

A 12 turn motor for a 6 year old! That's a lot of power for a little child. You might want to go with a good 17 or 19 turn.

If you don't have the XL-5 Stampede you could try upgrading yours with the Revo style slipper that is on the XL-5 Stampede. What do you have that thing geared at?

You should also put in an aluminum idler gear in the trans. as the stock plastic one strips easily.

[quori]

A 12 turn motor for a 6 year old! That's a lot of power for a little child. You might want to go with a good 17 or 19 turn.

not at all. She handles it just fine. One thing I do stress to her is to keep it moving away from everyone...never aim the truck at someone or something. Plus, since it is rear wheel drive it doesn't retain the greatest of traction in dirt and sand and spins out often on her...which for a 6 yr old is where all the fun is at anyway.


If you don't have the XL-5 Stampede you could try upgrading yours with the Revo style slipper that is on the XL-5 Stampede. What do you have that thing geared at?

You should also put in an aluminum idler gear in the trans. as the stock plastic one strips easily.

I forget off the top of my head what gearing I changed too. I think I kept the stock 84 tooth spur gear, and then used a 23 tooth pinion gear...again, off the top of my head.

The speed/torque was fine. I just keep finding it starts to slip out of gear. Possibly it is stripped out and I didn't even look closely enough. Or I did something wrong when rebuilding.

[juntom10]

can not wait my parts....i wanna play with pede so bad

[sunshine_monkey]

quori,
Take the trans. apart and check all the teeth on the internal gears. Check the planetary diff out as well. You could save some wear on the trans. by going with a 19 turn motor like the Reedy Quad Mag. It will still have good speed and plenty of torque. :teacher:

Juntom,
Stormer had the parts for my XXX-S to my door in 3 days. Hopefully it won't take to long for your parts to get to Canada. Take your Losi out for a spin and have some fun!
:D

[juntom10]

Juntom,
Stormer had the parts for my XXX-S to my door in 3 days. Hopefully it won't take to long for your parts to get to Canada. Take your Losi out for a spin and have some fun!
:D

thank you :D

i also waiting for rc18b's part......

i will play with mf2 tomorrow :D

and...

pede is waiting on the operating table for the parts!

lol :D :D :D

[T-Maxxahol]

as far as the stampede is it a tough truck.... I just bought my son a Losi xxxt and I am breaking the bank every time I take it out...
Also he likes to race.. is there a long arm conversion for this truck.. and whats needed also what affect would this have on the durability?

[juntom10]

as far as the stampede is it a tough truck.... I just bought my son a Losi xxxt and I am breaking the bank every time I take it out...
Also he likes to race.. is there a long arm conversion for this truck.. and whats needed also what affect would this have on the durability?
yes..there are wide conversion kit from FLM

[MrCrash]

That is expensive. There are instructions at www.stampedeproject.com to do it cheaper.

[glacierangel]

I looked at a bunch of instructions on other wide conversions, but they all had certain drawbacks, or were hard to find, etc. Plus the FLM conversion is aluminum :D.

[juntom10]

Rpm arm is longer than stock???

[MrCrash]

No, just infinitely stronger and cooler looking :)

[juntom10]

still waiting for parts....

[juntom10]

i want to know the gear ratio of brushless user!

because i will install the novak 4.5R to pede.......lol

[juntom10]

i got some good stuffs for the pede :D

10mm offset wheel and tires are for 18b..

one of 75mhz hitec receivers(new one) is for pede :D

battery bars to build the battery(i need to get a battery jig)

:D

http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r19/juntom10/DSCF0681.jpg
http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r19/juntom10/DSCF0684.jpg
http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r19/juntom10/DSCF0686.jpg
http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r19/juntom10/DSCF0687.jpg
http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r19/juntom10/DSCF0688.jpg

[BIGDADDYV]

Its about time ........ LOL .... Soon you will have another list ...... LOL .... :D

[rigrishracer22B]

Thats some nice parts I have just got one of the new stampedes and it is awesome alot better then my old one that I have been racing for over 5 years!!!!!

[juntom10]

nothing in the mail box today....dang..

i need to wait till next week..

lol

i hate canada post

[MrCrash]

I uh....kinda broke my Pede in half....:p

[sunshine_monkey]

Dude, do you have a picture of the carnage!?

Have fun at Bash Fest!

[juntom10]

i wanna know the gear ratio of any PEDE BRUSHLESS USERS!!!!

i'm considering buy 12t or 13t pinion for the pede(I WILL IN STALL THE NOVAK 4.5r MOTOR...)

[glacierangel]

I'm using 15/86 in my ss5800 on 6 cells. Works great, but I don't know about temps, temp gauge on the way.

[juntom10]

i will try 12t pinion (ordered today :D)

[Toothypaste]

At the weekend I tried mounting the battery on the underside of the pede chassis (using materials that compliment the theme of my pede such as electrical tape, string and blu-tack). Just for fun have a go :D. You'll be amazed at the difference it makes - I couldn't believe how fast my pede was when the front wheel wasn't in the heavens :D. For the sake of not snapping a battery pack, I wouldn't try any hefty jumps until you've further encased it in layers of muddy duct tape (that should hold it :D) And because I didn't use a :D smiley after the first sentence, here's another one to make up for it :D

[MrCrash]

Dude, do you have a picture of the carnage!?

Have fun at Bash Fest!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v257/98DakotaSport/RC/broked.jpg

It sheared clear in half right in front of the tranny :D

[juntom10]

Finally i got some parts today!

and installed them..

love it!!

what a beauty!!!

I will install the novak 4.5R when i get the 12t pinion :D
(wheelie bar is nice!)
http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r19/juntom10/DSCF0716.jpg
http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r19/juntom10/DSCF0717.jpg
http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r19/juntom10/DSCF0719.jpg
http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r19/juntom10/DSCF0720.jpg

[cooleocool]

It sheared clear in half right in front of the tranny :DDid that last spring as well...
http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/5229/stampedemarch2520060015jx.th.jpg (http://img155.imageshack.us/my.php?image=stampedemarch2520060015jx.jpg)

[juntom10]

next mod list...

1. shocks
2. metal yock
3. ?????

[juntom10]

i love stormer...

i ordered about 58bucks(us)

but i didn't pay any customs ...heheheheh(i think over $20(cad) should pay customs...)

nice

no customs = feels good

[BIGDADDYV]

now if you can get it in under 5 weeks it would be even better ..... LOL ... Good deal Jun keep us updated on the Pede-Progress :D

[juntom10]

now if you can get it in under 5 weeks it would be even better ..... LOL ... Good deal Jun keep us updated on the Pede-Progress :D
i will :D

next thing that i will post is....brushless pede :D after i get 12t pinion :D

[sunshine_monkey]

Nice mod there Mr. Crash! ;) Good thing a Chassis is cheap!:D

[sunshine_monkey]

Juntom,
The Duratrax Evader shocks work well.

[redbarton]

I managed to break off the other end.

http://img473.imageshack.us/img473/4636/brokenstampedect9.th.jpg (http://img473.imageshack.us/my.php?image=brokenstampedect9.jpg)

[cooleocool]

I thought that I'd post this here for you guys. Here's a video that I made back in the early spring. My diff needed to be a bit less loose as you can tell lol...

Make sure to set the video size to original.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-667136035260853821&hl=en

[juntom10]

omgomgomg

i couldn't wait to install the brushless..

so i installed metal idler gear, and brushless....

it is super fast...

wheely <- a lot

pinion is 16t..

i can touch the motor more than 5 sec..

but i will change the pinion later...lol

oooh

i need more batteries!!

i am thinking of getting lipo....lol!!!!

maxamps looks good....lmao..

anyway..

pede is so cool...

nicenicenicenice

[juntom10]

I thought that I'd post this here for you guys. Here's a video that I made back in the early spring. My diff needed to be a bit less loose as you can tell lol...

Make sure to set the video size to original.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-667136035260853821&hl=en
nice thomas!!

cool jumps!!!!

[cooleocool]

Thanks! That was a fun run! :)

[juntom10]

anybody using LIPO battery for the PEDE????

[juntom10]

i ran the pede now..

so awesome...

fast!!

tough!!

i want better battery!! lol

[cooleocool]

Some wheels that I dyed for my brother... He'll get these in a month for his b-day... Here's the mock up:

http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/6529/moabswredwheelsmay10200gb7.jpg

http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/7176/moabswredwheelsmay10200qk8.jpg

[juntom10]

Nice bully wheels!!!

[juntom10]

i found a problem of stampede...

the rear a arm and universal shaft are so close...so grass, or other stuff stuck into that space...

RPM rear a arm looks good for that..
http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXPUP8&P=ML

so..

wish list :
1. shocks
2. metal yokes
3. rpm arms
4. spare universal shaft halves....
5. lipo battery lol

ummmmmm

[cooleocool]

That's normal. Just pull the grass and such out every so often and it'll be fine.

[juntom10]

HOLY! Front Left shock shaft was bend.....dang....

i can use for a while..but need to get new shocks...asap...

i will order some parts next week(hopefully)

only tower has evader shocks..but i don't want to use tower..because....shipping cost is 20bucks.....(eventhough buy 1 buck thing...)

any other suggestions?

[cooleocool]

Traxxas Big Bores are some of the best. I'm not a fan of the Evader shocks.

[juntom10]

omg...
8 bucks for front big bore shocks?
https://www.ssl-stormerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/seekpart.pl?src=ns&pn=TRX2660

but...

30bucks for rear big bore shocks....
https://www.ssl-stormerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/seekpart.pl?src=ns&pn=TRX2662

[sunshine_monkey]

There are a bunch of us using the Evader shocks. They work great! You can get them on EBay pretty cheap. The electric and nitro Evader shocks are the same. I got a set of 4 off of EBay for less than $30. The Traxxas Big Bore shocks will work as well.

[juntom10]

umm

i ran my pede a lot LDLDLD

so funny..............

i broke nothing :D

[sunshine_monkey]

Sweet! It's always nice not to have to buy parts after a run......especially when they take so long for them to get to you! :p

[juntom10]

pede fun run!!
http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r19/juntom10/th_5b897ce6.jpg (http://s140.photobucket.com/albums/r19/juntom10/?action=view&current=5b897ce6.flv)

[rigrishracer22B]

sweet after seeing that Im gonna go play with my pede.

[juntom10]

i am waiting for 12t, 13t pinion gears for my pede!!! LOL

[juntom10]

pede's wheel lock nut is 4mm???

cause i've lost one wheel locknut and wheel hub.....

[juntom10]

i love this video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxwnJh_86iA
cause same motor and esc as mine :D(novak 4.5R / GTB)
that car's gearing is 13/87..but mine is 16/87 which is over gearing..but motor and esc are not that hot(i can touch more than 5 sec) but battery is too hot...
(OMG thunder storming outside!!!so loud...)

so..

i ordered 12t, 13t pinions and waiting for that..

next step is..

thinking of getting some parts for pede...haha

1.shock
2.rpm arms
3. spare screws
4. new batteries
5. maybe new rims and tires(stock tire's grip is not that good...)
6. and new body!!!(lol)

before that...i need to buy the motor for xxxt...
cause titan motor does not fit to xxx t
and ESC fan..

MY GTB esc fan is broken..so i need to get one
lol

[sunshine_monkey]

That's what my Pede does with the Mamaba Max 4600 in it. The front tires won't touch the ground if I hold the throttle down. It looks sweet going down the street leaned back on the Swami! :D

I think I need to play with the gearing to get a better mix of torque and top speed. :cool:

[juntom10]

That's what my Pede does with the Mamaba Max 4600 in it. The front tires won't touch the ground if I hold the throttle down. It looks sweet going down the street leaned back on the Swami! :D

I think I need to play with the gearing to get a better mix of torque and top speed. :cool:
what battery do you use?

[sunshine_monkey]

I get all that performance out of a pack of GP3300's. I had a run time of about 30 minutes. I have IB4200's but I don't see the need to use them in my Pede. I've been using them in my T4.

I love my Mamba!:D The 4600 has all the power I need for my Pede!

[juntom10]

i can't find gp 3300 or 3700 (un matched) normal one

[juntom10]

oh shoot...

one cell of my battery pack is dead...

...

i have only one battery pack for now(i have 17cells...(11cells are used one))

i should get battery jig and silicon cable asap...

[sunshine_monkey]

I have a couple of these but they are discontinued. :(
http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXLDP8&P=7


If you have Radioshack in Canada you can get a GP3300 stick pack for $25.
http://www.radioshack.com/family/index.jsp?categoryId=2032147&cp=2032056&allCount=13&fbc=1&f=Brand%2F1000815%2F&fbn=Brand%2FGP

I found some on Ebay (unassembled)
http://cgi.ebay.com/6x-GP-3300-4-tc3-tc4-E-maxx-xxx-s-xxxt-B4-T4-Tec-gp3300_W0QQitemZ6029541264QQihZ009QQcategoryZ19168 QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQcmdZViewItem

More on Ebay (assembled pack)
http://cgi.ebay.com/GP-3300mAh-7-2V-NiMH-Battery-Pack-gp3300_W0QQitemZ200069392044QQihZ010QQcategoryZ340 63QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQcmdZViewItem

I can also recommend these......you can get them at www.cheapbatterypacks.com (http://www.cheapbatterypacks.com)
http://www.cheapbatterypacks.com/loosecells/elite3600.gif (http://www.cheapbatterypacks.com/main.asp?sid=765531&pgid=loosecells#ELITE3600)Elite Batteries 3600mah SC

**NEW**
These cells average 3800+ Mah. 1.19 - 1.20 average voltage at 30amps down to .9 volts. These are very good cells and are actually under-rated at 3600mah. Great buy over IB3600.. These are actually out performing, the now discontinued, IB3800 SC cells.


Good times......:D

[juntom10]

umm..
i want to try gp..
but i've never use ebay..and paypal.....(i heard that i have pay some fees if i use visa card)
i found some from stormer
http://www.stormerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/searchpn.pl?dterm=3300&dterm3=&pn=&mterm=&oterm=&uterm=&sthumb=on&smode=0
4cells are really nice price(13.99, 18.99 etc)
but only 1in stock for 13.99, and 2in stock for 18.99

um......

[sunshine_monkey]

I have a few packs of the Elite 3600's and they are just as advertised. You can have the packs built however you want. Cheapbatterypacks.com are great to deal with.

The Dynamite pack for $35 from Stormer looks good. Just throw a Deans connector on there and you're all set.

[juntom10]

i assembled batteries...

it was hard..but getting better!

http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r19/juntom10/IMG_5661.jpg
http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r19/juntom10/IMG_5660.jpg
http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r19/juntom10/IMG_5659.jpg

...

and

i assembled batteries without battery jig.....

[juntom10]

i am having fun with pede..

umm

but ib 4200 is too big to pede...

that does not fit...

lol

[sunshine_monkey]

You can make just about anything fit with a dremel! :D

I took the Dremel to my Pede chassis.

[juntom10]

oh shoot

all batteries (2 ib3600) except ib4200 are getting bad..

punch is getting too weak..

toooooooo weak

i need new batteries..

umm.

[juntom10]

can i use 2 cell lipo with stock esc?(XL-5)

[sunshine_monkey]

No can do buddy. You can use Lipo with your Novak System.

What charger are you using for your batteries? How old are they? Are you gearing for top end speed, torque, or a middle ground of the two?

[juntom10]

No can do buddy. You can use Lipo with your Novak System.

What charger are you using for your batteries? How old are they? Are you gearing for top end speed, torque, or a middle ground of the two?
i just put stock esc and motor to pede..cause titan motor does not fit to xxx t...

3600 batteries are about 4 months old..

just tooo weak.(top speed, torque , everything)

and only charge about 2400mah....

[juntom10]

i charged at 3.0amp..

but i will try 6.0amp..lol

[sunshine_monkey]

Try 4.5 amps first. What charger are you using?

Just using a GP3300 stick pack I can do wheelies on command with plenty of punch. Are you discharging your batts.?

I use a Duratrax ICE charger.

[juntom10]

Try 4.5 amps first. What charger are you using?

Just using a GP3300 stick pack I can do wheelies on command with plenty of punch. Are you discharging your batts.?

I use a Duratrax ICE charger.
i am using Much more - silent charger, and duratrax pirahna digital charger..

maybe i discharge the battery 1~2 per week

[juntom10]

can i use this shock to the pede?

http://www.thetoyz.com/cart/thetoyz_details.lasso?id=8446&cat_name=E/T%20MAXX

[MrCrash]

Only on the rear, unless you do put rear arms on the front.

[sunshine_monkey]

i am using Much more - silent charger, and duratrax pirahna digital charger..

maybe i discharge the battery 1~2 per week

What is a Much more silent charger? :huh:

My ICE doesn't make any noise at all. LOL! I think the ICE is the best charger out there. You should discharge your batts. after every use I use an Integy Reactor). I'm just wondering if improper charging and discharging is the reason you have no punch from your batts.

Food for thought.:teacher:

[juntom10]

What is a Much more silent charger? :huh:

My ICE doesn't make any noise at all. LOL! I think the ICE is the best charger out there. You should discharge your batts. after every use I use an Integy Reactor). I'm just wondering if improper charging and discharging is the reason you have no punch from your batts.

Food for thought.:teacher:
you don't know much more??omg

you can see pic of my charger in this thread..

umm

but my ib4200 is doing really nice..

wheelie with stock motor always..(with 6cell ib4200)

[juntom10]

I will do wide conversion using rear arms :D sooon

[juntom10]

omg...i ordered parts ...and batteries...

GP 3900 Pack battery :D

[juntom10]

Dubro Body Klip Retainers Blue (2) 1 3.79
Traxxas Nylon Locknuts (10) 1 1.90
Traxxas Turnbuckles 96mm T-Maxx (2) 1 5.79
Traxxas Screws Countersunk Machn 2.6x8mm T-Maxx 2.5 (6) 1 1.90
Traxxas Wheel Hubs (2) 1 1.90
Traxxas Fiber Washers 5x8mm (20) 1 1.90
Traxxas Turnbuckle Camber Links 58mm Jato (2) 1 7.19
RPM Clawz Front Blue Chrome Wheel Rustler/Stampede (2) 2 19.98
RPM A-Arms Rear Blue Electric Rustler/Stampede (2) 2 19.98
Peak Performance Power Plant 6-Cell GP3900 Stick NiMH 2 65.98
Pro-Line Moab 2.2 Tire Front/Rear (2) 2 25.98

[MumblinBerk]

Recently put Mamba Maxx (4600) in my Pede. (sweet!)

Anyway, have been progressively gearing down. I'm now at a 15-tooth pinion on a 90-tooth spur, and still over-heating.

Hitting 190f (at motor) after 25 minutes or so, on lowest timing WITH throttle management. This is general bashing in loose dirt / sandy area, couple of nice jumps. That's on 6-cell 3800 packs. Nothing else heats up, just the motor. (punch set at 70%)

Considering just going down to lowest pinion I can find, which is a 12-tooth. But its so tiny, I'm wondering if there are issues with going that low on the tooth count.

Will that help? Opinions?

-MB

[juntom10]

omg
i installed the novak 4.5R again with 12T pinion with IB 4200!!

omg

it is so powerful, and fast!!!!
wheelie with half throttle!
omg

but stock tire is slip alot..

i'm waiting for moab tires!!!!

i can't wait...

[MumblinBerk]

I'm running the moabs. They are a little more narrow, but a fraction higher. I'm thinking they have less surface area in contact with the road, so should be easier on the amp draw.

But Holy Cows do they grab! On the street, one wrong move and the tires grab and it flips right over. Even braking too hard it just flips. EXCELLENT in the dirt, though.

Not happy with the wheels. Didn't have the right Traxxas wheels at LHS, so I got 2.2" HPI's which came with adapters that sort-of almost fit right. (sigh). But I made them work.

-MB

[juntom10]

I'm running the moabs. They are a little more narrow, but a fraction higher. I'm thinking they have less surface area in contact with the road, so should be easier on the amp draw.

But Holy Cows do they grab! On the street, one wrong move and the tires grab and it flips right over. Even braking too hard it just flips. EXCELLENT in the dirt, though.

Not happy with the wheels. Didn't have the right Traxxas wheels at LHS, so I got 2.2" HPI's which came with adapters that sort-of almost fit right. (sigh). But I made them work.

-MB
i ordered RPM wheels!
:D
and also ordered some parts to make pede wider :D

Please post pic of your PEDE!!!!!

[juntom10]

haha
today..was garage sale day of our town..

haha
i ran pede in front of my house..

and many people came to see..:D:D

one one guy said.
"do you selling that car?"

and i said..no.

if he knew how much is this car, haha...you know..

pede with futaba 3pm with novak 4.5R brushless with ib4200 etcetc :D:D:D

[juntom10]

heres are pics of my pede!!!
http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r19/juntom10/DSCF1019.jpg
http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r19/juntom10/DSCF1020.jpg
http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r19/juntom10/DSCF1021.jpg

[evst 360]

Recently put Mamba Maxx (4600) in my Pede. (sweet!)

Anyway, have been progressively gearing down. I'm now at a 15-tooth pinion on a 90-tooth spur, and still over-heating.

Hitting 190f (at motor) after 25 minutes or so, on lowest timing WITH throttle management. This is general bashing in loose dirt / sandy area, couple of nice jumps. That's on 6-cell 3800 packs. Nothing else heats up, just the motor. (punch set at 70%)

Considering just going down to lowest pinion I can find, which is a 12-tooth. But its so tiny, I'm wondering if there are issues with going that low on the tooth count.

Will that help? Opinions?

-MB
you are right - there will be tooth issues as angle between the teeth will be greater with a 12t than a larger one. It is even noticeable with a 15t vs. a 20t. Try a 91t spur if you can. If you have to go with a 92 or 93 tooth spur, go up a few teeth on the pinion so you're not undergearing (this might be a good idea anyway so you can use a larger pinion which will mesh better). Changes made to spur gear size have a much larger effect on gearing than changes in the pinion size, about 4:1 - 5:1. Hope this helps. :cool:

[MumblinBerk]

Thanks, EVST.

That was exactly my concern. I really didn't want to go below a 15t pinion for that reason. I'm just surprised with the heat issues, as this is CC's COOLEST motor at only 4600kv. Running on street (no hard, mind you) it seems to settle in at 135 to 140 degrees. WAY over that when bashing. It also take an annoyingly long time for it to cool between runs, as it's not vented in any way.

Couple alternatives I'm looking at: Pulling the big CC logo sticker off the end-bell should help it cool a little better. I keep hearing about upgrading the bushings to bearings helps it roll easier. Less drag maybe? Would that really help much? Supposed I could also go to a lighter battery pack. The 3800's are kind of heavy.

-MB

[BIGDADDYV]

you have to take gearing into concideratioin also ......

[evst 360]

Couple alternatives I'm looking at: Pulling the big CC logo sticker off the end-bell should help it cool a little better. I keep hearing about upgrading the bushings to bearings helps it roll easier. Less drag maybe? Would that really help much? Supposed I could also go to a lighter battery pack. The 3800's are kind of heavy.

-MB
the logo sticker wont affect cooling that much unless its on a metal surface, but I think the endbell is plastic on the mamba maxes. I would leave it on there. Bearings might be a good idea. Bushings can create a good amount of drag if they are worn. Dont worry about the battery pack. All nimh cells will weigh about the same, and the only lighter packs out there are lipo and li-ion, which will cost a good few dollars.

Check your gear mesh too. A tight gear mesh can create a good amount of drag on the motor. There should be a little play inbetween the pinion and spur gears. Try sandwiching a piece of paper between the gears, tightening the motor screws, and pulling out the paper. It should have some resistance coming out, but should not tear. Another method I have found useful for setting the gear mesh is to use your ears. Does the mesh sound ok? If it grinds, or makes a loud noise, then its too loose. If you lift up the rear wheels and give it some throttle, the mesh should sound nice and fine, and the wheels should coast a little before stopping. If they stop immediately and the sound of the gears meshing stops immediately after you let off the throttle, the gears are too tight. note: this method may be a bit controversial, but it works for me just fine. Hope this helps. :cool:

[nick f]

Ok, I have had it with these Traxxas hinge pins for the A arms, I believe there 44mm. I have been through three pairs in the last 2 weeks. I have bent my second pair of the rears, and today I just noticed that both my front ones are bent. I have the HPI wide mode done. Along with the the castor block pins bending if I look at them wrong, I'm done with Traxxas pins. I need a replacement. hardned steel, chromemoly one;s, something stronger. I am going to do the mod for the castor blocks where you drill out the caster block and the carrier for a thicker pin. Seen it on here last week.

Thanks
Nick F

[MrCrash]

I run Lunsford pins up front. I had to drill the bulkhead and arms out, but they are indestructible :D

[juntom10]

yeah lunsford titanium stuff is good

[juntom10]

i sold novak brushless..

i will get the mamba max 4600 or 5700 soon...(maybe end of this month...??)

[juntom10]

ummmm. hard to wait.........maybe about 1 week left to get parts...

i can't waittt!!!!

[Toothypaste]

The pede's taken a back seat during the last month (don't worry, I've already apologised to it :D) but I've had some thoughts.

Anyone running a 3s lipo pede? :D

And now something sensible (sorry). Is there any point having wheelie power of zeus's expresso machine?

With mmm coming out soon, it would actually be possible to run 12s lipo :D:D But no, even the pede would be honorably defeated by tht much power.

I know we have some li-ion runners here but do we have any lipo pedes?

[JDT]

after killing my T4 with the mm 5700 and 3S I tried it in the pede one afternoon, scary fast top speed and the power to wheely it onto its lid at 20+ mph, I would say 2s is better just because you at least have a chance at controlling it, 3S IMO is a wreck waiting to happen but maybe if you had awesome throttle control you could handle it, don't get me wrong its fun but also kind of nerve racking as at 50+mph stuff happens in a hurry and a crack in the sidewalk that was okay at 30 mph will lauch the truck, pedes are tough but even 1:1 trucks don't even like 50mph curb shots lol

[juntom10]

i will get the mamba max in next month!!!

5700 VS 4600 kv.....umm

[MumblinBerk]

Anyone running a 3s lipo pede? :D

And now something sensible (sorry). Is there any point having wheelie power of zeus's expresso machine?

With mmm coming out soon, it would actually be possible to run 12s lipo :D:D But no, even the pede would be honorably defeated by tht much power.

I know we have some li-ion runners here but do we have any lipo pedes?
PRESENT!

The main reason I got the 4600 rather than 5700 was to run 3S lipo. After the heating problems I had on 6 cells, I was holding off on the lipo. Tested 3-cells yesterday with a 2600 (20c) pack. Only enough juice for a couple short runs, but holy cows! What a beast!

Will do some testing in dirt this weekend. Have a conservative LVC set at 9.3 volts to give some safety margine. It's a tough pack, but 2600 is way too light for this application.

I've already targeted one of those awesome MaxAmps packs. Trying to decide between the 4, 5, or 6,000 pack. (they all fit). But I only want one 3-cell pack, just for kicks. Performance is so good on the NiMH 6-cells, that I'll be settling for 2-cell 4,000 lipo for most use. Way lighter than what I'm running now. But you've really got to see that thing scream on 3-cells. What a hoot!

Like JDT said, you're cruising along at 20 mph, hit the throttle and she just stands up on her hind legs and goes screaming off into the sunset. Sweet.


-MB

[BIGDADDYV]

OK fellas you all know I am the old school guy here ..... As with being the old school guy here i want to get the most bang for my buck ... I guess thats one of the reasons my pedes chassis is like 15yrs old .... But anywho I have decided after doing massive amounts of speed runs that I wanted to convert my pede into a total stump jumping wheely machine with thrashing offraod possibilities .... I am also not a fan of wheelie bars AT ALL for any reason ..... So I decided to convert my pede over to a different motor set up but keep the moabs ( because they are the best tire ever created dont even argue its not worth it ) and keep the gearing i had it in but do some other mnor lil adjustments .... My end result is a thrash monkey pede that will take ramps and offroad while pulling a 300-400ft wheelie at the drop of a hat WITHOUT A WHEELIE BAR ...... Its getting late and the videos are uploading slowly so I have but 1 right now the rest will come later I promise ......
The greatest part about this setup I have in it right now is that I get maybe 22-24mph out of it with the wheelies and all but the greatest part is I can run a normal 3300 pack in it for 30+ min and the motor and ESC and battery are all COOL TO THE TOUCH ..... NOW THATS BANG FOR YOUR BUCK FOLKS .....

Stock Pede with my camaro lid on it .. Enjoy ...

http://s149.photobucket.com/albums/...Camaro-Pede.flv

this is a shot of my ramp i built with just the junk i found out in the back yard in my scrap stack ...... Video of this will come very shortly ..... we get roughly 3ft up and 15ft out on this lil gem and it cost me NOTHING to build ...... Enjoy

http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/...05-26-07008.jpg
http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/...05-26-07020.jpg
http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/...05-26-07034.jpg

[juntom10]

Bigdaddyv // i can't see the pics....

[juntom10]

ok. so 4600 is way to go :D:D

[MumblinBerk]

As I understand it, the current thinking is that you are ahead of the game if you're making power (watts) using volts rather than drawing more amps. Castle has a very good explanation of this on their web site in the Mamba tuning guide. Here:

Mamba Tuning Guide (http://www.castlecreations.com/support/max_tuning_guide.html)

So the bottom line is that unless you have a specific need to draw crazy power from two cells, most of us are better served with lower turn motors. While one might think their 7700 is the "fastest" motor they make, the truth is that a 4600 on 4-cells out performs the 7700 on 2, and everything stays much cooler.

I've found this to be true on model airplanes as well.

Then again, that's just the physics of the thing. If you're racing in competition, and are limited to 6-cell NiMh, then you do what you gotta do.

Then, there's the pure joy factor of absolutely absurd power. Saw a video of a little 1/18th scale Losi MiniLST with the mamba 8,000KV motor in it. It was so absurdly over-powered it was pretty much undrivable, but it was sure fun to watch! Basically a rocket with wheels!

So a great deal of it depends on what you're expecting to do with your ride.

Here's a link to that video:

Mini-T Brushless Riot! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TOwJEbnFV3c)

Enjoy;

-mb

[juntom10]

As I understand it, the current thinking is that you are ahead of the game if you're making power (watts) using volts rather than drawing more amps. Castle has a very good explanation of this on their web site in the Mamba tuning guide. Here:

Mamba Tuning Guide (http://www.castlecreations.com/support/max_tuning_guide.html)

So the bottom line is that unless you have a specific need to draw crazy power from two cells, most of us are better served with lower turn motors. While one might think their 7700 is the "fastest" motor they make, the truth is that a 4600 on 4-cells out performs the 7700 on 2, and everything stays much cooler.

I've found this to be true on model airplanes as well.

Then again, that's just the physics of the thing. If you're racing in competition, and are limited to 6-cell NiMh, then you do what you gotta do.

Then, there's the pure joy factor of absolutely absurd power. Saw a video of a little 1/18th scale Losi MiniLST with the mamba 8,000KV motor in it. It was so absurdly over-powered it was pretty much undrivable, but it was sure fun to watch! Basically a rocket with wheels!

So a great deal of it depends on what you're expecting to do with your ride.

Here's a link to that video:

Mini-T Brushless Riot! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TOwJEbnFV3c)

Enjoy;

-mb

thank you for the info.
i didn't know that 4600 can handle 4s lipo..
but esc can not handle 4cell...

4600 motor ~ 25mph
5700 motor ~ 35mph
7700 motor ~ 45mph
On 2s lipo:
4600 motor ~ 30mph
5700 motor ~ 40mph
7700 motor ~ 50mph
On 3s lipo:
4600 motor ~ 45mph
5700 motor ~ 60mph

umm.

[Toothypaste]

Thanks for the help about lipo. How do the axles, drivetrain, wheel hexes etc...hold up with all the power? Would MIPCVDS be a must along with steel diff?

Juntom, I also have the 4600 motor. Runs cool, takes the voltage, can run plenty of gearing options and , most importantly, really lets you give the pede a kicking :D. The 4600 is supposed to be the 'tamest' system but I was literally clenching my buttocks (yes, really) when I first pulled full throttle. :D

And regarding 4s lipo, yes, the motor can take it but the esc can't. If you run a UBEC on the esc (I think), then you can run 4s. But check out the mm factory answers thread before you take my word for it.

[juntom10]

Thanks for the help about lipo. How do the axles, drivetrain, wheel hexes etc...hold up with all the power? Would MIPCVDS be a must along with steel diff?

Juntom, I also have the 4600 motor. Runs cool, takes the voltage, can run plenty of gearing options and , most importantly, really lets you give the pede a kicking :D. The 4600 is supposed to be the 'tamest' system but I was literally clenching my buttocks (yes, really) when I first pulled full throttle. :D

And regarding 4s lipo, yes, the motor can take it but the esc can't. If you run a UBEC on the esc (I think), then you can run 4s. But check out the mm factory answers thread before you take my word for it.

what is UBEC?

[MumblinBerk]

A "BEC" is a "Battery Elimination Circuit" and it is a feature on modern speed controllers so that the servos and the receiver are powered right off the ESC instead of needing another battery. Trouble is, servos only want 5 or 6 volts. The excess voltage is bled off as heat. The built-in BEC is so small, it can't dissipate enough heat when you run more cells, or in air planes, when you run too many servos at once.

(the ESC will fry, in other words)

So a UBEC is a little circut that you plug in between the battery and ESC, and it feeds off the battery directly, taking the load off your ESC. Otherwise, you would simply use a seperate small battery pack like the nitro guys have to do.

"UBEC" is actually a trademark for a specific brand. Look here:

UBEC (http://www.koolflightsystems.com/)

Hope that helps.

-mb

[sunshine_monkey]

I also have the 4600 and think that's the way to go. I get 30 minute runs on GP3300's and the Pede does standing wheelies on command. It's everything I need. I really don't want a 50 MPH Pede.

[juntom10]

oh thats good..

and..

ok
i will go with 4600..

i will order mm4600 this weekend or next week at b-p-p(168bucks!! )

[Toothypaste]

I also have the 4600 and think that's the way to go. I get 30 minute runs on GP3300's and the Pede does standing wheelies on command. It's everything I need. I really don't want a 50 MPH Pede.

Ahh...but that's the beauty of the 4600 - it can take high gears so 50mph is probably just as easy with the 4600 as the 7700. And it can take the most power (4s lipo x max. amps = 14.8v x 100 amps = 1480W = over 1.5 hp = :D:D)

[MumblinBerk]

Exactly! If you don't mind swapping pinions occasionally, you can tune it for the street, or lower the pinion and trade off top-end speed for bottom-end torque, and go hill climbing!

(I've had a blast with the brushless Pede scramblin up sandy slopes, trying to keep up with my buddy's Emaxx. Wasn't a great climber stock. But now, it just relentlessly CHURNS away at them dirt hills. It's a riot. Lots of fun.)

-MB

[juntom10]

b-p-p is reliable...right??

www.b-p-p.com

[phatnuggs]

b-p-p is reliable...right??

www.b-p-p.com

Very reliable, that is where I got my 5700. Can't go wrong IMO.

[juntom10]

hey MB// can i see the pic of your pede with body and some action shot??

:D

[juntom10]

Very reliable, that is where I got my 5700. Can't go wrong IMO.
I see.
they are do the pre order event for mamba max series..

$170 bucks for mm4700 system with shipping to canada!!

yay!

[MumblinBerk]

hey MB// can i see the pic of your pede with body and some action shot??

:D
Well, the body is just stock, though I have a '56 Chevy body on the way, and another pre-painted one from Venom. (never tried painting bodies)

The only "ACTION" shot I have, is a short movie of me, trying to jump over my buddy, while he films it. Um.... I missed, and kind of landed on his face. (oops). It's pretty funny, but I didn't want to post it, as it might encourage others to try dumb stuff like this.

Oh wait... here's a shot of my Pede, and my Bud's Emaxx at the field...
This was when it was new. Fully stock. (look how clean! Shameful.)

[juntom10]

Well, the body is just stock, though I have a '56 Chevy body on the way, and another pre-painted one from Venom. (never tried painting bodies)

The only "ACTION" shot I have, is a short movie of me, trying to jump over my buddy, while he films it. Um.... I missed, and kind of landed on his face. (oops). It's pretty funny, but I didn't want to post it, as it might encourage others to try dumb stuff like this.

Oh wait... here's a shot of my Pede, and my Bud's Emaxx at the field...
This was when it was new. Fully stock. (look how clean! Shameful.)
lol

why don't you do the wide pede conversion :D

i already ordered parts for that....:D:D

[MumblinBerk]

Point me in the direction, Juntom.


-mb

[juntom10]

Point me in the direction, Juntom.


-mb
i mean, you are using moab tires with mamba/

and you said it flip easily on the onroad when you turn with high speed,

if you do the wide conversion, pede will look cooler, and better handling :D

[MumblinBerk]

Just found details on the wide conversion over at UltimateRC.com

Looks like a lot of work!

I'll consider something like that once I start breaking front-end parts, and have to replace things. In the mean time, I've already ordered the RPM bearing holders, front and rear.

Yes... she flips WAY faster than with the stock tires. The stock tires and wheels are really nice, actually. Even at high speed, you can just cut the wheel and slide sideways to a nice stop on hard surfce. Not so good for loose sandy dirt, though. Moabs are just outstanding. They just dig right in. Feels much more predictable than stock.

But if I did not NEED them for where I'm driving, I would have stuck with the stock set-up. It's good for all-around use.

-MB

[juntom10]

yep..especially jato way..

but i heard that using rear a arm on the front is really easy
just use some bushing or washers, :D

i will show you later :D

[juntom10]

oooh canadian dollar is stronger..
generally canadian dollar and us dollar ratio was 1.15:1

but now...1.06!!

which means almost same value!!

mamba max system is about 270 bucks in canada(with taxes)(CND)

but i can buy mamba max system from bpp about 171bucks(usd) with shipping..

which is about 178bucks (CND)

can save up to $100(cnd) !!!!

omg

i will order that tomorrow

i'm so excited about that !!!