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wakeracer
08-17-2004, 11:38 PM
Is there anyone who can build me a set of engine mounts to install my Kyosho .16 into my Stinger SS ABS hull for a fair price? I'll be willing to pay for shipping as well. If u want to know more about this scratch-build project look at my thread entitled "GP Marines Stinger SS Nitro conversion."

Hydro Junkie
08-18-2004, 12:32 AM
Are you looking for scratch builders or a machinist? :confused: Scratch building usually refers to someone who builds a boat(at least in this forum)from scratch, either from an idea in their head or a set of plans, either self drawn or purchased. Scratch building also doesn't apply to your converting a Stinger to nitro from electric power. You are using an existing hull that was made comercially. Therefore, you or either doing a conversion or a modification, NOT SCRATCHBUILDING :(
If you would like to see a few examples of scratchbuilding, go look at my post in the thread titled Scratch-Build Thread, started by Scott Ericsonon. Part way down page one, a pic of several of my boats are shown at various stages of SCRATCH BUILDING :D

afunnkymunnky
08-19-2004, 06:32 PM
I cannot help you, and neither did junkie

While I am sure that you meant well Hydrojunkie....I really don't hink he was looking for a lecture on terminology!! He needs help with enine mounts!! As usual you have posted a bunch of jibberish that is no help at all....if he won't say it I will.... "thanks for nothing!!" some on this forum indeed help...others.... well....they like to toot horns!!
Dan

Hydro Junkie
08-19-2004, 08:59 PM
Many beginners DON"T KNOW WHAT SCRATCH BUILDING REALLY IS. Therefore, I put out the difference for general purposes, NOT TO GET YOU ON A SOAPBOX. IN CASE YOU DIDN'T NOTICE, I asked what he was looking for. Unlike someone else, I didn't put him down, or belittle him for asking. As I'm not a vindictive person, I figure you think you are right, and if so, so be it. I don't need to explain my motivation or motives to you or anyone else. If you want to rant and rave because of something you don't agree with, be my guest, but don't expect me to dignify it by responding to soapbox ranting again

afunnkymunnky
08-19-2004, 09:18 PM
another fine post for you junkie....completely missed the point and the real question!!!

The man STILL need help with motor mounts!!

have a nice day!

mjmsprt40
08-20-2004, 10:06 PM
Wakeracer, I'm afraid I can't help much here either. I did take a look at the other thread you've mentioned, and would hazard a guess that it's possible to do it. The problem is that it will require quite a bit of "filing and fitting" to get what you want here, and it's doubtful that any third party can make one for you. Best bet is to experiment with some plywood, see what works, then get a local machine shop to make the finished product (if you're after a metal engine mount).

Personally, I've never had much luck with ABS. Getting any kind of glue to stick to this plastic always gave me fits. That was several years ago, perhaps better glues are available now.

bugfanatic
08-24-2004, 06:46 PM
MJM had it right. I could design up & machine out anything you need, but you'll be doing a lot of final fitting. Do exactly as he said & try making some rough ones out of plywood. If you can't find a local machine shop to make them for you, try a local moldshop.

mjmsprt40
08-24-2004, 10:16 PM
I've been thinking about the boat pictured in the other scratch-building thread, and that picture brings up a couple of points.
1. Nitro engines require a flywheel if they're to run at all reliably-- or even at all. The engine pictured lacked this, so it stalled out as soon as the prop touched water. (I'm surprised it ran that long.)
2. Keep the drive line as straight as you can. The drive in the picture uses a short stub and two universals. Good, but--- at that angle, I guarantee vibration that you would have to see to believe, and even then might not believe. That vibration robs you of power and will eventually destroy your boat, so keep those joint angles as straight as possible. The joint in the photo looks to be as much as twenty degrees out of true.

lovinnitro
08-26-2004, 11:57 AM
I'm by no means an expert here, but I haven't had a boat that I did not have to fabricate some kind of motor mount. From my gas boat, outboard cat, and .21 mono. Follow MJM's advice, only I've used a thick poster board to get the first fit to decide shape, where I want the motor and my holes etc. then wood or metal. At least this has worked for me in the past. if you have a Dremel (sp?), vise, and a drill you shout be able to acomplish about anykind of mount you need. May not look the prettiest but should be effective.

Hey Munnky welcome to the board but as far as the post chill out. I didn't even remotely see you try to help Wakeracer either just attack Hydro Junkie. For the record Hydro Junkie has help me in the past so he is no idiot. How deep does your building experience go my friend? I came to the thread thinking someone needed help building a scratch boat as well. There's alot of good people here who try to help wether it be right or wrong, but still appreciated none the less. I would have gone nuts trying to figure my first one out if it weren't for these people. Nobody bashed me but terminology is pretty important in finding what you need since almost everyone I know has to order stuff by mail.

BoatDoc
08-26-2004, 03:42 PM
lovinnitro...that was very well put. HJ is a very helpful guy...even for a navy airdale (but we won't hold that against him :D ). anyway, terminology is very important. i learned that early on myself. so...let's all help get wakeracer's project going!!! wake--it may be easier for you to build the mount yourself. just because of fitment issues, but the guys here are always helpful. i'd suggest the same thing as lovinnitro. use cardboard (or something like that) to get a rough idea of what you need. a quick trip to Lowe's or Home Depot and you can get the aluminum. then all you need are a few basic hand tools and a dremel and you're set. besides, it's always cool to say that you custom built a thingamahoozit on your boat by yourself :D