New controller from Schulze

[NIC]

Many of thoose who competed in the WC in F5B had a new Schulze controller mounted in their planes.
It´s called 32.120F ! Wich means it can handle 6-32 cells and 120 amps continuosly ! The size is the same as for example the 18.129 but it can handle 14 cells more ! A good choise for high power set-ups such as 1/8 scale and even 1/5 scale cars !
My guess is that Schulze made this controller just for the WC in F5B when they knew that the pilots were going to use 24 GP 2200mAh instead of 17 GP 3300:s. Otherwise the pilots would have used the 18.149 or some other high amp 18-cell esc, if GP hadn´t released this new cell.

I know that their is a suggestion now that only 16 cells will be aloud in the next WC so then it´s back to a more hi-amp controller again. Or is it maybe 16 "cells" meaning 16 Li-poly:s !?

I wonder if they will ever release the 32.120 or if it was a "one time only" esc ? It sure would be a nice one to have. Not as big as their BIG 40.160 esc.

NIC

[DaFF]

That is very good news. I think the next trend in BL will be more cells, more voltage, lower wind motor.

If only they would do the same thing with the U-Force i.e. 18 cells instead of 12 for example, I'll be the first one to try it !

DFF

[mac0326]

BK Electronics/Lehner also make s a couple similar controllers. 30.95, 30.120 and the 30.150. They can go down to 4 cells, though. I little cheaper than Shulze, too.

[studysession]

Which would be better though - the BK or the Schulze controllers?

[DualBL]

from what I know, Schulze is best w/ hardware, and Castle is best with software.
I think most people have dismissed BK for controllers.
-Nick

[bob2300NX]

Why is BK dissmised, I was going to get one, that is why I ask. DualBL- You have PM

[bomb-proof]

Id take the BK controllers over the Schulze any day of the week on high cell count controllers. With 30 cells on a shulze you would have to direct solder cells to the esc board for short enough wires. 30 cell controllers arent new, they have been around for years.....no one has the space to run the cells, nor the correct motor.


I see a potential for smoked motors.......But for the people who know what they are doing, the 30 cell monsters are gunna really shine.

[DualBL]

well, I don't run BK now, and when I did I never had problems, but it was on a small setup with a 7018 controller.
I've never ran schulze before. Reason I said that Schulze is best hardware, and Castle was best software, is because I talked with a boat guy a little while back, and he said that at a meet they had, every controller was a schulze, and then there was 2 BK controllers.. both of the BK's blew within 30 seconds of their run, and it just doesn't seem like anyone's running BK anymore.
but then again, this is in boats.
Brian, I know your experiences with BK and Schulze in the past, but then it seems like BK has dropped off, and there's just not alot of people buying new BK controllers..
I havn't run a brushless setup in about a year, so when I said that about the controllers was just what I was told by a respectable guy in the boat and bl industry.
if you want to go with BK, go for it. if i was in your shoes, I prolly would too, but it just seems like everyone's going to schulze lately, so I would maybe try a schulze first.
enough of my rambling, and good luck
-Nick

[rhylsadar]

hi
in my view it depends much on the whole combination...meaning controller and motor. with a lehner the BKs work fine. but if you want to use a 4poler plettenberg there might be problems. e.g. a plettenberg bigmaxximum was not able to get run with a 30.150 even by bk themselves.

btw for the 40.160 i see great applications coming in the new electric FG models! :D

bye
rhylsadar

[Chase023]

The Schulze 18.97KWF/KW is recommended by Plettenberg to use with their Bigmaxximum, but then I guess that is a good combo from what you say.
Personally I would like the same size controller with all the same features with higher amp ratings but I guess I'll be fine for now with my BigMaxximums.

[rhylsadar]

hi
yes that would definitly be cool. in the size of the 18.97 but more like 30.160 or something like that. :)
with the 18.97 the bigmaxx works good but there were some who burned their schulze with that setup running 16cells. schulze said there was a plug problem...but in some cases that was a bit strange as someone e.g. used very expensive hi amp plugs. and a fan is needed in that application anyway.
bye
rhylsadar

[studysession]

Both Schulze and BK seem to carry a heavy price tag. JMO

I would like to get a BK to see how it performs. I blew my Schulze ESC from gearing being to tall.

[bomb-proof]

All of them smoke, thats the one thing I do know. Bk got alot of bad press because of their warrior controllers a few years back. But, what else can you expect from a budget controller thats being pushed to the limits by people running 7 turn and under motors?

[studysession]

Budget controllers? Seem very close to the price of the Schulze. Just 30 - 40 dollars difference or so. When you are talking more than 300 - 400 dollars per ESC. 30 - 40 is not much difference. At least the ones I have been comparing cost that.

I am looking at ones that can handle above 100amps.

[mac0326]

Budget controllers? Seem very close to the price of the Schulze. Just 30 - 40 dollars difference or so. When you are talking more than 300 - 400 dollars per ESC. 30 - 40 is not much difference. At least the ones I have been comparing cost that.

I am looking at ones that can handle above 100amps.

The warior7018 was just over $100 when it first came out. That is a "budget controller" if I ever saw one! Like bomb-proof said, people pushed the envelope and blew them up. I have an original 7018 warrior running an e-maxx/2800xl motor for over a year. It works flawlessly and is very smooth. When you get up in the 12018, 15018, 12030 or 15030 controllers, yes, the price is closer. Still, the 9918 warrior is less than $250. That is at least $100 cheaper than the 18.97 Shulze controller, or almost 30% cheaper!

[studysession]

Interesting - Thanks.

[bomb-proof]

Exactly, and I feel sure if used for the proper application, the warrior would work perfect. I know alot of people were trying to run hot motors on an E-maxx with them with alot of cells. Run it on a properly geared TC with the correct motor, and it will run forever.

[NIC]

This is from the Schulze website:

"The future-32.120F was a devellopment especially for the WCH of this year.
By means of the changed rules it is not longer necessary in the future"

The way I see it and anticipated is that the 32.120F will not be put into production. Is there another way of seeing it ?
There will however be a couple of controllers circuling the globe if the guys who used them in their planes sell them.

NIC