AMB monopoly, Personal Transponders

[GramdeGixxer]

What gives? Prices are getting way too high on these things. Somebody, maybe Venom needs to come out with 1 that is 1.) compatable, and 2.) way cheaper.

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[AudiTT-Quattro]

I find that they aren't very good compared to the public transponders. We had some issues with them registering at a few races. However, 99% of the time they will do the job.

We use public transponders at the track to keep the cost for racers down. The whole AMB system is slowly being re-paid by entry fees.

[InspGadgt]

They are the most popular timing system used in RC and possibly the most reliable but they don't exactly have a monopoly. There are 2 other makers of lap counting systems for multiple cars, KO, and KronIT. But the personal transponders in the KO system are bigger and the KronIT is hard to get any information on and hard to get ahold of.

[racer234]

I agree, someone like Venom should start making these things and bring them down to $30; right now they sell for almost $90, thats way too high for me.

[GramdeGixxer]

My track has a set of transponders that i use but most of the bigger races, like the one i am getting ready to go to in oct(paris memorial in vegas) require them. so issues or not, you have to have them. eventually all tracks will probably require them.

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[NitroStar]

$2000 for the decoder alone! That is crazy. I would like to get an AMB setup for my track, to get more people interested in the hobby in my area but $3500 worth of stuff to count the cars is sick! Anyone know how to get ahold of a system the is not quite $3500!?!? Thanks for any input.

[microrcdude]

decoder? you mean the whole system right?

[AlexV2024]

no 2g just for the decoder, and it is 3500-4000 for the whole system. it sucks. there really does need to be some one else that is much better then the other non amb co's.

good thing i bought my PT's back when they were like $60 2 years ago. its sad, they cost like $2 to make...and yet they think they need to charge so much...

~Alex

[GramdeGixxer]

Personal Transponders are upwards of $90 now. What the heck is going on?

[Terry_S]

What gives? Prices are getting way too high on these things. Somebody, maybe Venom needs to come out with 1 that is 1.) compatable, and 2.) way cheaper.

We have already developed a personal transponder for the AMB20 system.
Watch this space for future developments! ;)

www.team-mrt.com

[mtucker]

We have already developed a personal transponder for the AMB20 system. I like the idea of being able to clone your AMB transponder, but it seems like if you want to sell the product you would have to make the price reasonably LESS than AMB. $89? Before I went to the web page I was thinking along the lines of $50.

Matt

[Terry_S]

Hi Matt, we have developed our i-PT (improved personal transponder) for the AMBrc system. Because we have designed the i-PT to fix all the problems with the AMB PT and also made it a custom product it's attractive to racers. Having one or more cloned transponders all on the same ID# is also something many racers find is a great idea.

The i-PT has no missed laps due to electrical power related problems and also has a power lead that can be changed when required, plus it's got a custom case and LED colour options.. so more than you get with the AMB original PT.

Information is available here: www.rclaps.com (also on the PDF form)

There's a review here: www.wnyrcinfo.com and a 10% discount is being offered off the normal price of $89.00 US (until the 1st Dec 2006).

[Winston]

I run an AMB transponder and a clone appeals to me because it has the same ID.

The only thing that I wonder about is whether it's waterproof or not with the exposed cables.

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[Demon-TC3]

$50.00 would be perfect...seriously why is it so expensive to make a transponder? surely its not as complicated as to cost $90.00 a peice...

I bet if these things where made by a chinese company they would cost about $40.00 a peice...and they would produce it for 20 a peice...FINE so maybe they wont measure ur lap time to the last hundredth of a second..but for 40 or 50 bucks..whos gona give a damn...

i personally dont mind if it is slightly bigger or slightly heavier (Slightly mind you :p) if it means getting one for $50.00 rather than $90.00...
Sadly my track is now going to personal only and you can loan out personals to use for the day..so i guess that means i gota get me one....GREEDY A$$ AMB

anyone else thinkin along the same lines?

[Sorcerer001]

Anyone making a "clone" that would work with the current systems manufactured by AMB would probably have to contend with some patent infringement. Honestly don't know how you'd get around it.

[Winston]

I guess if it's not waterproof I'd better just stick with my AMB transponder.I know that's waterproof from the use it's had.

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[Demon-TC3]

im not 100% sure on how the AMB systems work...
as far as im aware it just emits a wave of some sort (transponder), and thats detected by the lap counter, so whats to stop a company bringing out transponders on a frequecy the lap counter can detect? its not as though AMB can copyrite a frequency and wavelength is it :P

i know im probably not right here and im not trying to pretent like i am right or that i know how transponders work..cant be far off though right?

[pleaseletmeon34]

Sadly my track is now going to personal only..so i guess that means i gota get me one....GREEDY A$$ AMB

anyone else thinkin along the same lines?


After going through the EXTREME hassle and aggravation of trying to get my house transponders fixed. Unfortunately, I will be going this route.

[Demon-TC3]

I love the idea of personal transponders, dont get me wrong they are good, but what i dont like is how they jack the price up so much that i find im spending more than what i want on a hobby...For what a personal transponder is, i just dont think they are worth it unless you are real seriouse!

[NitroStar]

Yea, $90 is sick. I've been racing since 1991 and still don't have enough money to put good electronics in 3 different vehicles, much less $90 for a transponder. When I race, I either use the track's or borrow one or stay home.

[Terry_S]

I run an AMB transponder and a clone appeals to me because it has the same ID.

The only thing that I wonder about is whether it's waterproof or not with the exposed cables.

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Hi Winston, you will be pleased to know it's guaranteed 100% waterproof. Water on the cables has NO effect.

$50.00 would be perfect...seriously why is it so expensive to make a transponder? surely its not as complicated as to cost $90.00 a peice...

Hi Demon-TC3, our i-PT transponder is a more advanced product with more electronics than the AMB original, it's more reliable power wise especially with low voltage inputs and voltage dips.. which means NO MISSED LAPS!

Believe me we want to make transponders more affordable so everyone can afford them, one day..

Anyone making a "clone" that would work with the current systems manufactured by AMB would probably have to contend with some patent infringement. Honestly don't know how you'd get around it.

Sorcerer001, Demon-TC3 pretty much has the answer despite not knowing how the system works..

its not as though AMB can copyrite a frequency and wavelength is it :P

After going through the EXTREME hassle and aggravation of trying to get my house transponders fixed. Unfortunately, I will be going this route.

Hi pleaseletmeon34, would you care to say why you had EXTREME hassle and aggravation? Do you mean a battery replacement for a house transponder? I would have thought it's easy to send to some company in the USA? We offer a battery replacement service for the UK and Europe, there is also another company I know of that does the same for Australia.

[pleaseletmeon34]

Hi Terry,

I'll try to keep it as abbreviated as I can lol. My house transponders are getting old. #2 I won't use and I have 2 others that really need batteries, but they make it through a race day as long as they go back in the rack after every heat/race.

I had a big race coming up in 5 weeks and I wanted to get them taken care of beforehand. I was told on the phone and by email it would only take a week or two (says this on there repair form too). Now this is "only if they need batteries"

So I sent them to ALL AMB (with a very detailed sheet of how they were discharging). Well, they lost them! (now two weeks are gone) When they found them they were only willing to change the batteries in 5 of them (mine are older and have NiCads, the replacements will be NiMh and need to be charged 4 hours longer). I said "do them all" (I'm paying for it, I don't want to have to come back home in 4 hours to charge my old ones). They wouldn't do it. Then I was told they can't change batteries here anymore for environmental reasons. They have to go back to Holland and it will be another 4-6 weeks.

It only gets better.

Another 4-6 weeks and I'm not going to get my same ones back. Not only that but I will not get the same numbers, infact I could get ALL the same last number! (I was told they get them in bags of 100 and it takes to much time to sort them out) You know they are all different, I know they are all different, but can you see trying to run a race with a full rack of #5's?? (they have a bag of 100 why can't I get my five now??). I finally said "just send them back". Three weeks later, I got them back. (after multiple phone calls and email) They only took 2 days to get there.

This is the short version!! You wouldn't believe the things I was told. This was this past Sept., I had a few dealings with them since and its only gotten worse. If you want the full version I can PM you the rest.

One of the better quotes "you do charge $25 a day transponder rental don't you" LOL, can you see that?

Very unprofessional, :( No customer care, :( :( No customer service. :( :( :( I guess you can be that way when your the only game in town.

Good to be the KING.

Oh, and how I found out they were lost. I emailed AMB to find out the progress of them and that I was very interested in an rc3. Well, sales called the next day, and I ordered an rc3. The following day service called and said "Hello Mr. X, I'm calling about your transponders. How did you send them??" :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Sorry for the rant everyone...but he did ask.

[Nomadio_Sales]

They sold like hot cakes for $65 when they first came out now $89 to $90 for new and improved is well not going to get you the numbers you want no matter the LED case color choices. Pot it in epoxy and let it rock sales for $65 ;)

[Terry_S]

Pleaseletmeon34 thanks for the explanation, I think your abbreviated version is very insightful. I'd be interested to know the full version but I wouldn't want you to have to write it all down for me! I suppose the thing is whether this was a one off or if it happens fairly often.

Oh, and how I found out they were lost. I emailed AMB to find out the progress of them and that I was very interested in an rc3. Well, sales called the next day, and I ordered an rc3. The following day service called and said "Hello Mr. X, I'm calling about your transponders. How did you send them??" :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

I had a similar experience myself with the first ever transponder I sent back. Our system was only a couple of months old and one transponder failed, I sent it back and a while later heard and received nothing. I called and was told they'd never received it but by chance I'd also returned a registration card for some further information on a product. I received an email with info related to my registration card.. so they had received my transponder!! Following a call to point this fact out, magically my transponder was found and then I was sent a replacement under warranty!! My advice, always send registered post so you can prove your package has been received and signed for!!

Nomadio_Sales, re the $65.00 price.. watch this space for developments!

[pleaseletmeon34]

I suppose the thing is whether this was a one off or if it happens fairly often.



I had a similar experience myself with the first ever transponder I sent back. Our system was only a couple of months old and one transponder failed, I sent it back and a while later heard and received nothing. I called and was told they'd never received it but by chance I'd also returned a registration card for some further information on a product. I received an email with info related to my registration card.. so they had received my transponder!! Following a call to point this fact out, magically my transponder was found and then I was sent a replacement under warranty!! My advice, always send registered post so you can prove your package has been received and signed for!!

LOL, It was about 5 phone calls back and forth that day.

"Hello Mr. X, I'm calling about your transponders. How did you send them??"

I knew then this was going to be bad. My response was "USPS, and I have proof they got there!" Didn't know where they were? It wasn't till I descibed how I sent them that he said "Oh, I have them here in front of me". (I had mounted them on a piece of wood, then tightly packed with foam). Then, looking at my detailed sheet I was told how many they would repair. Then I was told "but you didn't send in the repair form". My response "It was STAPLED on top of the discharge sheet".

Was it a one off thing??? Well, I was so pissed I canceled the rc3. Opportunity came up and I sold my rc. Then later reordered an rc3. The rc3 came in three shipments over about 3 weeks! This was just the rc3! It took a few phone calls and about 4-5 emails to make it complete. I think it was last Monday I got the last part. (and really this is another abbreviated version LOL)

No customer care, not even an offer for free shipping.

Again, Its good to be the king!

They gave me the impression they want nothing to do with house TP's. And that makes it hard for me. I don't want to buy something that is not serviceable. And to new racers,... You need to buy a PT, that will cost you $70-$100. :(

So now you know why I don't want anything to do with house TP's. My season ended last weekend. TP's and charging rack will be up for sale shortly. LOL

[lordraptor1]

considering amb also supplies nascar, formula 1, dragracing and other full size racing with lap counting and timing systems expect prices to be high, and yes i said it amb is not just r/c it supplies nascar as well as other full scale racing venues look up amb's home page (not ambrc)their hompage has a link to all of the different systems they sell including the ambrc

[pleaseletmeon34]

Yes, I know a little bit about Alfonsus Maria Bervoets. Ive been dealing with them direct for years. All the things you listed are relatively new to them. Before (about) 1999 you bought there product in the US through "Bolink". Thats about the time NASCAR started using it. I believe the prices got cheeper since they ventured into other forms of racing.

[Demon-TC3]

now 65 bucks i can live with...thats...reasonable...but what is it 90 now? 95? its not like stuff is getting more expensive to make..the exact opposite!

My club has had problems with some of the club transponders...and we had to pay in the reigons of $300.00 to get a battery replaced...THREE HUNDRED BUCKS????

So your not paying for quality...your not paying for a brand name...or for good customer service...So what the hell are we paying for? a transponder that cos about $20.00 to make...and if it fails were paying how much...assuming it doesnt get lost?...or stolen as the cases could have turned out....

[Terry_S]

You need to buy a PT, that will cost you $70-$100. :(

We have extended the 10% discount at www.wnyrcinfo.com until the end of January 2007 hopefully that will help for now. We're looking at returning to the $65.00 US specal price sometime early next year. It's not easy with US sales right now especially with the $ to £ exchange rate, we will have to see what happens.

[Terry_S]

My club has had problems with some of the club transponders...and we had to pay in the reigons of $300.00 to get a battery replaced...THREE HUNDRED BUCKS????

We do battery replacements, the price is £24 in the UK. I guess it would work out to around $50 + shipping, that's quite a bit cheaper than $300!!

[Terry_S]

now 65 bucks i can live with...thats...reasonable...but what is it 90 now? 95? its not like stuff is getting more expensive to make..the exact opposite!

Our new offer is now on. It's $65.00 US each plus $9.00 shipping for the standard blue cased versions. Custom versions remain as priced on the application/order form.

Please note the standard blue i-PT has a blue case, blue LED and a standard 180mm / 7" (approx) length power lead. Only a persons last name (surname) or club/hobby store name can be used. The original AMB PT must be sent to us along with a completed form.

If a standard blue i-PT is ordered on the form it will be charged at the $65 price. The turn around is approx 7 to 10 days with us (in the UK) plus the shipping time back. The original AMB PT can be returned after we have received it and read out the number, an extra $4 will be charged for the additional shipping cost.

Application/Order form: www.rclaps.com

[Demon-TC3]

is that 74$ for a working new transponder then or do we need to trade in? and will it work with all the AMB stuff?

[Paradoxmaker]

I saw the Mrt transponders awhile ago and once I finally found them on the net, liked what I saw. Custom color, custom LED color, replaceable lead wires, and the possibility to use the same transponder # for multiple vehicles (instead of remembering several different ones).

I just have always had a question on how you mount them, since there are no mounting ears like the Amb one has. Do you just use servo tape or is there a mounting post underneath, like loaner transponders have?

[Terry_S]

They're $65 US each plus $9, total is $74. The price is for a cloned i-PT personal transponder made from an exisiting AMB PT. The i-PT currently does not have mounting tabs on the case but we have plans for this.

The i-PT technical specifications are:

MRT i-PT Direct Powered Transponder
Overall dimensions: 26 x 22 x 7 mm
Case size: 22 x 22 x 7mm
Weight: 6g (without power lead)
Power feed: from a free rx channel or 'batt'
(user replaceable power lead)
Connection plug: standard servo plug
Operating voltage: 1.5V - 30V DC
Power consumption: approx 20mA @ 6V DC
(same as existing AMBrc PT @ 6V DC)
Power Booster: Yes, maintains 6V output signal
(can operate for 30+ secs if power feed fails)
Reset time: instantaneous (AMBrc PT is approx 1 sec)
Case colour: Blue (standard) or custom (various colours available)
Display LED: Blue (standard) or custom (various colours available)

[Terry_S]

is that 74$ for a working new transponder then or do we need to trade in? and will it work with all the AMB stuff?

No trade in is needed for the $74 price ($65 + $9 shipping) we just need your AMB PT sent to us to read out the internal ID number. Your PT is returned along with the cloned transponder(s) you order. The i-PT works with all AMBrc systems, ie the system that works with red transponders NOT the black AMB20 ones.

[Demon-TC3]

hmm..with te price of the actual AMB transponder i dont see any point since i need an AMB in the first place...

[pleaseletmeon34]

FYI...AMB just raised the price of PT's. A single now from AMB is around $112.

[Terry_S]

Sorry Demon-TC3 that's how it is you have to have an AMB PT to get an i-PT clone. For those people with more than one car who already have an AMB PT or those with a damaged AMB PT the i-PT is an attractive option.

With a built in uninterruptible and boosted power supply all power related lap counting problems are eliminated. By using an i-PT you're guaranteed ALL your laps will count, that's assuming it's correctly fitted in your car and it's not on a carbon fibre chassis or fitted vertically or on its side etc!

So all in all you do get an improved personal transponder for your $$$ ;)

[Terry_S]

FYI...AMB just raised the price of PT's. A single now from AMB is around $112.

Oh that's not good news, sales of PT's may suffer?? I wonder if it's just in the US or other countries as well?

[pleaseletmeon34]

Terry,
I'm guessing everywhere. I seem to find more info overseas than here on my AMB. Back in November I found on a few european sites that there would be a 3% increase come Jan 1, 07. With the new equipment that had come out, and no price increase in 2 years I saw it coming. I posted this on our local forum before our big turkey race, but there was no takers.

Ed

[Terry_S]

Thanks Ed, I'd not heard or seen anything about it. It's not good for the racers, more expense I guess :(

[Demon-TC3]

so why exactly do you need an AMB transponder? is it just to ensure every code is unique or something along those lines?

Cheers.

[Terry_S]

Yes it's to make sure there's no duplicate ID numbers. When we make an i-PT it has the ID number and name inside the case. If you can get a hold of a broken PT for a give away price or for free, if we can get to power the internal circuit up we could then make a clone from it. It's one way to get a working transponder without the extra expense of buying a new AMB one.

[Demon-TC3]

i see, well whats to stop someone round the other side of the world giving me permission to their number? since i will never race with them or be anywhere near them would that work out? probably a silly question but may as well find out...

[Terry_S]

There's always the chance that someone from round the other side of the world ends up racing at the same meeting as you, it could be a big international meeting for instance.. it's probably only a small chance but it could happen!

[Demon-TC3]

hehe yea but im only a small club racer and dont foresee myself racing anywhere else tbh...still if someone esle gave me the permission in teh states, since im in the UK the likelyhood of meeting him at a race is next to nothing...

[bigheffer]

hey guys, i got a question. in order for me to get one of these, i would need to have a amb transponder already?
is there anybody from Europe or asia, that would want to lend me their transponder number? i am only a small club racer, and i dont ever go to any big races.

[Demon-TC3]

same question i asked buddy, im in the UK and was wondering if anyone in the states would consider the same and SHOULD the unfortunate occur that i actually met you and we happen to fall under the same heat (i race indoor onroad) then i will gladly retire from the race should the transponder be needed by the doner!

[Terry_S]

Here's some news, we have a new personal transponder due out. It's the PTX and it's 1/2 the size of the AMB PT, weighs less and uses less power.
The good news is you don't need a PT already and the basic version will be available at an affordable price for new racers.

Here's a photo:

[Demon-TC3]

how much are we looking at for the basic version?

i know allot of racers just want a cheap...maybe 50$ PT which works...not hugely concerned if it doesn't measure every lap perfectly to the last microsecond but works...


Cheers,
Demon

[TKCastle]

"AMB's P/T are to expensive, WAAAAa" Quite your crying you big babies. Buy AMB stock and rub your hands like Mr. Burns and say "excellent".

[pleaseletmeon34]

how much are we looking at for the basic version?

not hugely concerned if it doesn't measure every lap perfectly to the last microsecond but works...


Cheers,
Demon

I don't know about that!! I run races, and let me tell you...these guys get VERY upset if a lap is missed! Not only that, owning the timming equipment, its a little embarrassing if a lap is missed :o :(

[CarbonMadness]

Terry how much will it cost?

And will there be an issue with a number that is the same as the AMB pt?

[pleaseletmeon34]

I can tell you a little about the PTX (and I don't think Terry will mind).

Terry bought 10 transponders, and cloned all 10 numbers into each PTX. Not sure what he has done with the originals, but unless AMB made dups, there shouldn't be a problem.

But you will also have 10 TP's in one.....so you can change the number if someone has the same on his/hers PTX (really the number should be set to the position you are on the track). So if you were 6, instead of grabbing #6 HTP, you will set your PTX to 6.

[Demon-TC3]

good idea to be honest.


Its not that i think people are not competative, its just that not everyone needs the very best PT's out there...with everything else you have a choice of basic, sport , and professional grade equipment, why not with a PT?

[Terry_S]

I can tell you a little about the PTX (and I don't think Terry will mind).

Terry bought 10 transponders, and cloned all 10 numbers into each PTX. Not sure what he has done with the originals, but unless AMB made dups, there shouldn't be a problem.

But you will also have 10 TP's in one.....so you can change the number if someone has the same on his/hers PTX (really the number should be set to the position you are on the track). So if you were 6, instead of grabbing #6 HTP, you will set your PTX to 6.

Thanks pleaseletmeon34, couldn't have explained it better myself!

Demon-TC3, CarbonMadness we're working to try and get down to around half the current price, $50 is definately a possibility.. we're working on it!

Regarding the 'grade' of timing equipment, the accuracy can't be changed it's all part of how the system works. If a lap is counted it will be counted to the same accuracy, what matters is that the laps get counted, if a lap is missed that's a BIG problem! A more advanced power circuit design is important, with a boosted and stronger output signal there's more 'hits' across the loop which means more reliable lap counting. Both our i-PT clones and new PTX personal transponders are the highest standard (better than AMB) so our transponders are professional grade equipment at a lower price.

[Demon-TC3]

Sounds very good to me.
i wouldn't mind getting my hand on one if you can get them out at $50.00.
If you need anyone to help testing, my club has just gone to PT's so i can give you any feedback you need.

Keep up updated! - (P.S when is the release date?)
Cheers,
Demon

[Terry_S]

New PTX versions are now available including the new 'shrink' micro-size PTX. Also a new purple LED custom option with the cool blue LED being a popular choice and a few others to choose from too! Details and ordering at www.rclaps.com

.. Hi Demon, we have the new micro-size shrink version, it works out at around $59US ;)

[Demon-TC3]

Sent you a PM.


Cheers.
Demon

[Demon-TC3]

Replied - Terry, if we want the PTX with 20 pre-set numbers, we buy the Custom PTX right, not the Cloned? the order form on the site is VERY confusing...

Please could you send me a PM clarifying how to order and what to order....

Cheers.
Demon

[Terry_S]

You buy the cloned ONLY if you have an original AMB PT and you buy the custom if you don't or if you don't want a PTX with your cloned ID. With either you get the same 20 generic numbers (all supplied with the same standard ID's). A custom number is a number that can be changed if required. The number that's set can be either one of the 20 generic numbers or the custom/cloned number.

The form is not confusing, it's only used if you own an original transponder and want to order a clone or clones from it. Otherwise you just order a custom ID and/or spec transponder from our online store. A cloned transponder is always custom built to order so the custom options on the form are needed to allow you to choose what you want!

[Helgaiden]

cant wait to get mine! (this is Syber Serulean from RcTech)

:)

[Demon-TC3]

hey terry - i have a few freinds in the states who are willing to "lend me" their PT numbers, since i will never race with them (being in the UK myself) is it at all possible to get one of their numbers cloned into a PT i order?

Take care,
Demon

[Terry_S]

cant wait to get mine! (this is Syber Serulean from RcTech)

Hi Syber, thanks for your order!

[Terry_S]

hey terry - i have a few freinds in the states who are willing to "lend me" their PT numbers, since i will never race with them (being in the UK myself) is it at all possible to get one of their numbers cloned into a PT i order?

Take care,
Demon

Demon YGPM!

[Demon-TC3]

Lol am i the only confused one here?

Ok so i understand the 20 selectable frequencies - and the Cloned ID - but what about the Custom, is that a Pre-set fixed ID or is it an ID set by the user or what? is it intended to be a Personal id like the AMB PT's or something similar?


Take care,
Demon

[Terry_S]

Hi Demon, YGPM.

It's not too confusing really, although we're offering 'customised' case, lead and LED options; with the numbers you can have a cloned one (if you already have an AMB PT) or a custom one, both have 20 generic ID's. The ID is set by the user by pressing a button. All the ID#'s are 7 digit 'AMBrc/AMBrc3' numbers, these numbers work with AMBrc and the new AMBrc3 systems. A cloned PTX can have the cloned ID or a generic ID set, the custom can have the custom or generic ID set. You can't make up or 'dial in' your own 7 digit number, it's only possible to select a number.

>>>

Note:
PTX Discount offer extended by a week, now ends next Monday.
For ordering @ www.rclaps.com click 'More Info & Ordering' link.

[Terry_S]

Note there is still free worldwide shipping on orders! ;)

[Demon-TC3]

Cheers for everything terry - i was about to order one when i came across another forum and a guy was selling an AMB PT at i price i couldnt pass up. so im the proud new owner of an AMB PT. at least this way im 100% assured no one else has my code. if i do however decide to get the AMB cloned i will give you a call. thanks for everything either way.


Take care all,
Demon

[Terry_S]

No problem Demon, if you need any other info any time let me know.

Just posted this elsewhere re PTX ordering..

New orders are now scheduled for shipping in February. The new PTX versions started shipping this week, we're very busy working on despatching orders. We are hoping to have the exisiting orders cleared next week. Should have the PTX (other than cloned/custom built orders) available from stock by early next month. Custom/Cloned orders turn around is currently about a week to 10 days plus shipping time.

Thanks to everyone who has ordered so far! :)

Terry_S

[bigfix]

Hello Racers
I came accross this thread via a Google search and read through most of the thread.
It is a shame to hear so many of you have had disappointing service from AMB.
If you ever need AMB transponder battery replaced then checkout www.transponderservices.com
All kinds of AMB transponders repaired and new batteries fitted at very reasonable cost and prompt service.
Plus other transponder related items available.
Does not sell AMBrc DP transponders but does have limited supplies of old AMB20 transponders available.

Hope this helps.

best regards
bigfix

[Terry_S]

Update! The new PTX is available from MRT - website: www.rclaps.com at around half the footprint size of the AMBrc DP personal transponders and weighing less (approx 3g without power lead) the price for a standard version is around $60US plus shipping, customised versions are also available. The PTX FAQ (http://www.team-mrt.com/rclaps/ptx-faq.htm) and PTX specifications (http://www.team-mrt.com/rclaps/ptx-moreinfo.html) pages have more details.

Model Racing Technology are a UK company, we design and manufacture rc electronics, we also offer AMB transponder services including transponder diagnostics/testing, repairs and servicing. We replace AMB transponder batteries and accept non-working rechargeable transponders for trade-in.
Email support@team-mrt.com if you need any help or advice.