Hot Bodies Lightning Stadium (PRO/RTR)

[stonesavage]

So stone your saying get the back plate for the sh 21 non pullstart, and cut the crank on the sh 28?
And is it true 3.5 hp at 28,000 rpm ? ya that's it dude! you probally could use the backplate off the sportwerks 21 as it also made by sh.if you have a hobby shop that has an used engine parts bin check it out you might find one that fit's. as for cb ofna hd cb 14tooth. IS It true 3.5 hp more like1.22hp@20;500rpm peak torque 61.4 in-oz@14.750 peak rpm 38.450 sound low eh! the truth is most engine manufactures estimate the hp# upon performance at the track they then use mathematical equations to roughly calculate hp# there"s no model engine on the market that can produce more than 2.5 hp these studies were done on an computer x-dyno that measures the engines power directly from the crankshaft. I know some will doubt but it is true e-mail ed bridges (ed-mods) he tell ya the same! I shure he said that the os v spec is the most powerfull engine he has tested ever it's rated at 3hp 104in-oztorque, but the real x-dyno hp 1.47@24.250and61.2in-oz22.500rpm this does not mean that our little engines are not crazyfast! look at this my 2 stroke chainsaw that has a piston the size of a soupcan is rated at 1.5 hp.my2cents :eek:

[CRSMP5]

thanks for the day keith.. was a blast.. yea the power is just sick.. im going to drop it down to a 8mm venturi.. the 9mm is alittle bit too much on off switchish.. the sportwerks 26 is just as bad with the 9mm venturi.. so ill detune it a bit, smoot out the power a tad more and will be ready for the tracks ive been running on..

MB i broke the monster claw RPM wheel today.. ripped the middle right out of it.. 8) i also broke 3 wingmounts.. the lsp, the pro1, the pro2.. of the parts i can build 1.5 of them.. LOL..

[Monsterbrad]

well you have alot of racing on the RPM wheels also don't ya.
THe palstic can only take so much then something has to give.
It is great to hear about all the power you have thats awesome.
Wish I had the cash to pick up a new 28.
I don't really want a modded one just a regular one.
GOod enough for me.
Where did you guys race at????
CRCRC in columbus?
Me and CR should make another date and come down and race a weekend that would be cool.
If thats where you guys are at.
I am about 15 mins away at my girls apartment.
cr going to call Proline tomorrow I hope they will send me new stuff.
broke thw wing mounts also huh thats wierd but then again things can only take so much.

[K2-WS7-9863]

I have just snapped the lower shock end that screws in the lower wishbone on the front. Does anyone know of any other makes of shock end that will fit. Or if not where to get another stock one from.

[Keith-OH]

Monsterbrad: we went to the x-dome that will be closing for good at this point. Now my carb slide valve is turning about 30 deg around and not returning to the correct possition at idle. ***? Looks like i will be learing how these carbs work now.

[CRSMP5]

it sounds as if the idle stop screw broke.. else it could NOT turn.. you kinda screwed unless ya got a 2nd carb..

sux on the xdome, in dayton, we will all have to group together one day.. we need to bitch at crcrc abt mt on a sat so people like me can partake.. else their rude, natzi behavior can kiss my bumb and ill find different track..

mb hows this sound to you.. you start to unload car, carry truggy and savage in, have 2 racers stop you, ohh we only run 1/8th scale on sat, you need to come down on fri night if you want to use those.. i just turned 180* and put stuff back in car and headed to dayton, only a hr further, crcrc webpage states "bring what ya got, if there is 4 or more racers you will be able to race them" IMO to have other racers be rude and not even let you get to that point is BS so i left.. still need to post there on that..

shock ends, racers edge 3mm ones... they are aluminum.. also got your droop screws installed?

[Monsterbrad]

I need those rod ends for the shocks.
Aluminum will be nice I was supposed to get some from speed zone but I never heard back from bill.
I'll call this week I hope.
Kinda want them for sunday oh well.
Kieth oh
sounds like that screw is gone like cr said....
Just dump the stock engine and get a Mach or something better even an os 21 rg would be better than the stocker.

[Keith-OH]

I think I got my trucks carb fixed. I took the carb apart to learn how it worked. What happend at some point I turned the idle to low. If you turn it to low it takes the needle out of a slot. So the carb slide valve can then go in to far and turn whatever way it wants to.

Anyone have the factory settings for the LSN or can get them for me? If not I am going to call HB and see if they can give me them.

[CRSMP5]

same as savage.. BUT ill be honest, 1 turn in from flush

[K2-WS7-9863]

Does anyone know if the new Proline crowd pleaser 2 will fit the LSP?

Im in need of a replacement shell. :eek:

[Keith-OH]

Not sure about that one. But the Monster Illuzion does fit very well.

http://www.jconcepts.net/shop/product_info.php/cPath/22/products_id/93

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v309/Keith-OH/DSC02814.jpg

[hyperstang]

Well guys,
I finally saw 3 in action yesterday at my local track. Since my upgrade to a 18TM motor in my REVO, I needed to run in the Outlaw class. Now I was amazed at the performance of this beast. I am usually a A Main racer placing 3rd at the lowest. I actually made first in the "B" Main becuase of the fast lap times these hot body stadiums trucks (TRUGGIES) were doing.

1 of the 3 was in the "B" main with me, but I did take my "B" main and lapped the field twice but the hot bodies place second only cause it flamed out and was on the same lap as myself.

The winner of of the "A" main was the Hot Bodies Lightning with 3 laps on the field...OMG.

That just made me want to get one even more now. Let you all know when this bad boy comes in. The OS 18TM engine will go on sale and I'll race the stock class again.

Race on..

[CRSMP5]

welcome to the big block.. yea the revo just cannot compair to a real bigblock.. the thing is sick..

[hyperstang]

Thanks CRSMP5,
Can't wait, should come in the Thursday and break in this weekend for the next Sundays race. This is going to be nutz man...

Race on...

[Monsterbrad]

hyperstang
I had the same thing go on man.
Had the Revo watched cr's LSP go around the track and just had to have one.
Sold the Revo and have been hooked on the LSP ever since.
Love this truck its a fantastic racer and handles great.
Just can't beat it plus its BB and that's what matters to me.
Nothin runs like a BIG BLOCK!
especially cr's new 28 :-)

[hyperstang]

AAWWWWMAN..

Now I really can't wait for this bad boy to come in. But I am just thinking about selling the OS 18TM and keeping my REVO for awhile. I need something else to race for the wait between heats. So I'll probably race the stock class with the REVO and save the LSP for the OUTLAW.

Should make the day go by faster.

Race on...

[Monsterbrad]

Or ditch the revo and buy and 1/8 scale buggy!
Then again racing at the track that I race at I will not race 1/8 scale buggy the guys are way to crazy.
I like the monster truck class its good for my style plus I am a monster truck lover all the way.

[hyperstang]

Actually I was in the 1/8th scale class with my Kanai II. But it picked up with more racers and that is the longest heats of the day. There are 4 heats with 3 mains (3 because everyone wants to go home before the sun sets) so those mains are jammed packed and yes, crazy out there now a days. Also its the last Mains of the day and my wife will kick my A@$ if I don't get home.

So I chose to race the stock class (first race of the day) and the OUTLAW CLASS which I should be done, with marshalling the next race before my wife goes nutz again. Can't wait to run this thing.

[CRSMP5]

get the ol lady to race..

mb i may just have to visit ya sunday so you can see the new 28 in action.. so you can kill me with a spoon for showign you more stuff..

[CRSMP5]

mb ya wanna borrow a motor? i pulled my k4.6 out, the savvy is sold :) and now i got to find somethign to test it in.. want to see whats its like in a lsp

[Monsterbrad]

Man you move stuff fast CR!
I don't know I would kinda like to have the engine in the MGT but then again a 28 in the LSP would be nice also.
Ran another few tanks through the truck today its a different animal with the Mach in there.
I just can't believe how well the Mach engine runs.
Its more than enough for the little track I am racing on.
Tuned it to run around 200 degrees cause too much power on a little track and what I am used to with the stock engine it will be fun!
Anybody try the SUT tires on this truck yet????
They work very well like em alot.

[CRSMP5]

mike is buying a sh28 :) its supposed to be a beast.. for his savvy...
my sitting collection not installed
k4.6 (hpi 28)
rossie 3 port 28
hyper 8 port race

mikes sitting collection
21bb
s-25
mach 26 once he gets sh28

too much stuff sitting... LOL.. too bad 2 of them are 28s with no homes.. LOL i need to build light weight truggy... still waiting on parts :D

[GasGod]

Is the stock HB.26 that bad??I can afford the LSP pro but will have to wait on the engine upgrade--I do have a hyper 8 port race that came out of my buggy,it ran great in my buggy,but I upgraded to a rexP5. :D Would the hyper have enough torque?Should I get the reg LS and get a better engine (mach.26)or the pro and run the stock.26 :confused: Running a1/8 buggy and a truggy is getting expensive. :rolleyes: My racing is powered by money-- thats why i'm half--fast :eek:

[Monsterbrad]

Well the 26 is not that bad it's just not that great either.
Mine stopped revving up and the temps are scary to make them run good.
Mine has about a half a gallon or less on it still ran good just had it moments and I just don't like to fight with the engines that much
The rex p-5 is a great engine it will wake this truck up a nice amount but I am not sure that it will have the torque that the bigger blocks produce but it will be better than stock.
Try it
I thought that the Mach would not be enough and I am pleased with it as of right now.
As far as buying the rtr don't do it cause you will just want the up grades later any way just bite the bullet deal with the stock engine and have the pro chassis that way that is done.
The Mach is a great engine and you can pick one up off ebay for 120 or so maybe less depending on when and who is selling it and just be careful to get one that was pulled out of a LST or something and never ran.
I picked up a new one for 140 with the pipe fly wheel clutch and header.
Rebuilt the one that blew up for 40 bucks and put that one in this truck.

[CRSMP5]

its a ok learning motor, its not a race engine though.. it has more then enough for a very small track, but springs a comming and outdoor season is about to begine.. so need power.. :D

[hyperstang]

What engines are drop in's???

Good engines also??

thanks

[CRSMP5]

check back the last 5 pages, i stated mods for those needing mods and so on..

[ktmkurt]

mike is buying a sh28 :) its supposed to be a beast.. for his savvy...
my sitting collection not installed
k4.6 (hpi 28)
rossie 3 port 28
hyper 8 port race

mikes sitting collection
21bb
s-25
mach 26 once he gets sh28

too much stuff sitting... LOL.. too bad 2 of them are 28s with no homes.. LOL i need to build light weight truggy... still waiting on parts :D

HeyCR,
Is the Rossi .28 new? Are you wanting to get rid of it?

[ktmkurt]

Hyperstang,
I know the Peak diablo .28 is a direct bolt in and you can use the
roto start back plate from the stock HB .26. Do not quote me,
but I think the HB .26 roto start back plate will also bolt up to the
Picco .26

[hyperstang]

Thanks CR,
I'll look back a couple of pages.

Thanks too ktmkurt, that is good to know..

Bad Boy is coming in tomorrow..

Race on..

[hyperstang]

Hey CR,
How did the HPI 4.6 do in your LSP?

Thanks

[Monsterbrad]

Hyperstang
try a Mach if you don't want to send a ton of money trust me they are good I have 2 and love em both.
They just don't have the RPM's but you can rev the snot out of them I do and my friend does also.
If i were to buy a new engine for this truck now I would probably go with a mild 28 rossi or something like that.
I want reliability and easy tuning like my p-5 was but I don't know if the p-5 would be enough for a truck.
Would like to try it though cause they have alot of rpm's .

[hyperstang]

I might go the MACH route. Is it a drop in?

Is it a significant difference from stock HB 26? My local track is a tight and small so I think that should do it just fine, although the ones that race with us now are crazy fast, so the MACH would be just that much faster.

thanks

[Monsterbrad]

well if you buy the pull start version yes!
The roto start version will not fit that's the one that I had and I changed the back plate to the GS 25 engine cause they are the same back plate design.
You will like the Mach and yes it is way more powerful than the stocker!
I tried it and the stocker is now a paper weight.
Hope you like the truck its awesome on the track!

[CRSMP5]

mb your wrong, the pull start version has th esame backplate.. you have to change the backplate on it to a xtm or gs to fit into the truggy, even the rossi mods will not fit it in..

no my 3 port rossie is used, almost 5 gal and still have to loosen teh glow plug..

[hyperstang]

OK,
From what I am getting, the MACH pull start will work, but I need to change the backplate if I want to use the rotostart, and its a drop in. Can I use a starter box on this bad boy?

If so which one? I currently have a Ofna box for my Kanai 2, but don't know if that one will work?

thanks

[Monsterbrad]

oops
any way I modded the Revo wheels to fit the truck tonight!
WOW they make the truck narrow!
Has anybody else tried this yet????????
its only 16 inches wide to the outside of the tires!
Its either these on sunday or the GS stock tires
racing on super hard packed clay.
I liked how the revo tires hooked up on my revo but I am thinking that they will be to narrow for this truck but then again the track is narrow!
Revo wheels and tires ?????????

[CRSMP5]

NO the mach pull start will NOT WORK, its back plate WILL NOT WORK

this is from savage central's engine section written by tbill...

for those of you that have purchased a dynamite mach .26, may have noticed the back plate is gigantic. as such, it kind of limits what gearing options you can use. a 14t Cb and a 52T spur combo is a tight fit, so much so, a 15t CB would be out of the question. so, in an effort to create more flexability of this power plant, i decided to mess around with some stuff :D

what i found is, the XTM 24.7 back plate is a direct fit, here is a picture of the two back plates side by side [the mach is the larger one]

http://tbillstoys.homestead.com/files/106_0603.JPG

the one way bearings are also slightly different height wise, [the xtm is shorter]

http://tbillstoys.homestead.com/files/106_0608.JPG


at first, i was just going to use a pull start, but since i also have a .25rtr, i figured i'd adapt the roto-start as well. so basically what it boils down to, is a simple install of an xtm 24.7 back plate, xtm one way bearing, and either an xtm pull start, or an hpi roto assembly. the actual 'drive hex' for the one way is identical between the mach .26 and the xtm 24.7. once the smaller back plate is on, it's just a matter of bolting on the pull start. for installing the hpi roto portion, all you need to use to space the hex in the roto assembly is the 'spacer spring' out of the mach .26 pull start, when installed, it's quite stiff, so it should keep the drive hex in place easily.

here are a few pic's of it installed on the mach .26,
http://tbillstoys.homestead.com/files/107_0745.JPG

http://tbillstoys.homestead.com/files/107_0749.JPG

note the little 'puff' of fuel spray, i was cranking it over in that pic 8)


ok, parts needed,

XTM p/n 148217 back plate
XTM p/n 148189 one way bearing
XTM p/n 148188 pull start [if going with pull start]
HPI p/n 87110 [complete roto-start kit, if going roto-start]

rough cost to go pull start is @ $43.00, rough cost to do roto-start is @ $68.00. [both prices assume you only have the mach .26, and no 'spare parts'].

also of note, if you use an S-C store envy flywheel, an 18t CB with a 52t spur combo will now fit 8)

p.s. big thanks to CRSMP5 for hooking me up with an extra roto case/gears assembly, i robbed the one off my .25rtr to finish this up, my 'extra' one should be here tomorrow 8)

now if you look and compair the size, the xtm is stock size, the mach will not fit no way no how, the chassis and purpl eengine plates are in teh way, also gs storm back plate is a alternate option, this mod ALSO works for the sh 28

mb i saw a set on a lsp in dayton at teh xdome, he broke one of the wheels.. ahhh keith-oh has them

[jjstwuk]

I know a few locals (Dayton Ohio) are running the Revo rims with stock LS tires cut to fit. They seem to work really well. I'm getting mine ready to mount this week.

[CRSMP5]

hook up with keith, he is from dayton and has them.. i bet ya know him if ya spend any time at the dome.. were you there sat?

[Keith-OH]

Monsterbrad: I use the Revo hurricane rim with the panther python tires. They work very good.

jjstwuk: I should be there this weekend again with my LSP.

[hyperstang]

Thanks CR that is an AWESOME Illustration on what I need and what to do.

But what about the HPI K4.6 engine. Is that a direct drop in also or is there modifications need to be done?

Also what starterboxes would work if I wanted to go that route?

thanks

[CRSMP5]

i have not fitted it yet.. after i do ill know for sure, but it looks like drop in as the pull start is pretty close to stock size..

[K2-WS7-9863]

Does anyone know what weight the shock oil is that comes as standard in the LSP shocks?

[vbgagnon]

CRSMP5

On the grid you posted a something with a vspec in it, was that the lsp (it didn't really look like it) if it is in a lsp how does it perform?

[spesh]

Got some 40 series velocities, bowties and 23mm adapters today. just fitted them and i am now a little worried about them fouling the track rod ends. There are 2 V shaped cuts on them to allow them to come over the stock rims, these ofc dont match up with the new 40 series rim.

And as for the stock engine running silly hot - solved mine, popped the cooling head and button off and the machining on both where they contact was total crap. Ground the 2 together with some light valve grinding paste to improve the surface and make them contact better and dropped about 30-40f off the temps (same temprature outside when tried for the same performance)

[spesh]

http://pwned.me.uk/~admin/images/rc/401.jpg

excuse the poor quality, digicam doesnt do close up too well

1 = the cutout for stock rims
2 = 40 series fouling the track rod end

http://pwned.me.uk/~admin/images/rc/IMG_0109.JPG

[hyperstang]

The 23MM Proline adapters will fit the LSP but made for what truck, the Savage?

thanks

Looking to do that mod first when this bad boy comes in later on today. Hopefully can get it broken in before Sundays race.

[Keith-OH]

Spech: My Revo rims also hit. Expecially after putting on 20 deg. hubs. I just trimmed down the rod ends. I have not broke one since I did.

[hyperstang]

Spesh,
Nice pic of your LSP. The HD 23MM, do I need the ones for the Savage?

thanks

[sutman]

Does anyone know what weight the shock oil is that comes as standard in the LSP shocks?


I have been told that the pro shocks are 70 weight alround and the RR is 40 weight.
Are the stock c-hubs 17 0r 20 degs, and is the buggy different to the stadium.

[spesh]

whatever the stock oil is change it as it appears to be mineral based oil that will be temprature affected etc.

[Letsavit]

Just flicked through this thread and got most of questions answered regarding my LSP. great Thread....

I have a spare Mach .26 from my LST and wanted to put it in the LSP so its been very useful reading this....Thanks...

1 questions though..i found this... http://www.hobbypeople.net/gallery/148191.asp

but it looks a little different from the one posted in the pic on the last page...the centre is raised? where the one in the pic looks more flat . Also a there is mention of a spring from the mach pullstart, as i have the Losi starting system not the pullstart engine will the pull start spring further down the page do the job?

So is this what i need? then i can fit the starting system from the hotbodies engine and im ready to go?

Thanks

Letsavit

[sutman]

The back plates are the same, Crsmp5 is a picture of the outside and the one you found is the part that goes into the engine where the oneway bearing sits.

[Letsavit]

Thanks, yea just looked again and you can see the shadow where its raised.....LOL...doh..

[Monsterbrad]

I am just worried about the truck being to narrow with the Revo wheels on because the back space is in so far.
Oh well I will try them if they don't work then I;ll do the SUT tires and see how they work if they are not that good then I'll try the Komodos which I like but some racers do not.
Oh well

[CRSMP5]

23mm savage adapters, thats rcinit's lsp not mine, h edid not know how to host photos..

yes the backplate sites in the engine.. its what the pull start will mount too, the pull start part numbers i gave comes with the spring and there is a hex part number there also.. but the hex is the same....

c hubs are the same as the pro1/rtr1 so ill say 17* but i think they are 15* the pro2/v2 is 22*
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v406/CRSMP5/lsp/new_goodies/rossi.jpg
where i have my transponder mounted, its on a lightning pro2 mount...

rcinit's photos of his anti bend rod set up..
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v406/CRSMP5/lsp/rcinit/frtdiff.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v406/CRSMP5/lsp/rcinit/rscenterdiif.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v406/CRSMP5/lsp/rcinit/rsfrtbrace.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v406/CRSMP5/lsp/rcinit/rsrearbrace.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v406/CRSMP5/lsp/rcinit/topcenterdiff.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v406/CRSMP5/lsp/rcinit/toprrbrace.jpg

[spesh]

what rods are used there crsmp5?

[CRSMP5]

he used tmaxx ones.. i do not have part #s though.. he took it to the LHS and they fitted it up in size..

[loadleft]

I'm looking for a lightweight racing tire, I race on a loamy surface which feels very similar to black top soil. I've tried Komodo LP's but they don't have enough spike to hook up on the surface. Traction wise the best tire has been proline maxx mulchers but it is such a heavy tire I am trying to find a lighter one that will allow the truck to retain some of it's agility. I recently ordered panther meat grinders but I ordered ofna dish wheels not knowing they had so much offset so I have yet to mount the tires. I am not a fan of the 40 Series tires and rim due to the there excess width. I like the width of the komodo I just wish it had a larger diamter and taller spike. I am even considering making my own tire by cutting and combining several others but I don't want the expense and time associated with doing this. Was just wondering if any of you guys knew of a better alternative, or even a way to mount pythons on non-revo rims, I'd like to maintain the standard width/track of the truck. Thanks in advance for any help.

[CRSMP5]

look back a few pages i posted a bunch of tire weights on rims..

[VMach]

Front turnbuckles are #5138(traxas t-max), rear ones are #5338(Revo) and use these traxas ends #5347(Revo). I found everything on the hobby shop wall. The center standoffs are from the stock front chassis brace#C8120 on the LSP. Don't look on Towerhobbies, they have a different item for that number. Look in the LSP manual for the pic that shows the correct part.

[hyperstang]

Okay,
I made up my mind and I really want to try to run the HPI K4.6 engine in the LSP.

CRSMP5...you are the man I am turning too....what do I need to fit this bad boy in the LSP? and how can I use the roto start on this..

Will the stock flywheel and clutchbell all fit on the HPI?

Really want to get started on this one.

[CRSMP5]

will be a month or 2 before the roto start backplate is avalable.. give me a day to test fit it into the lsp though, yes any flywheel will work i highly suggest a stock savage one though, its the same diameter as stock, but not as thick, this will allow use of ofna clutchbells with just shims, with a stock flywheel the piloet shaft of the engine needs to use the small extension that comes in the shim kit...

[gcobra16]

I recieved my sh 28. Is the non-pullstart backplate for the sh 21 pro buggie motor the right one for 28.

[CRSMP5]

you would have to look at the thread on savage central, i have not paid enough attention to know.. but i know it is listed there.. the non pull/electric start mach 26 one will work i can say that...

[ktmkurt]

I'm looking for a lightweight racing tire, I race on a loamy surface which feels very similar to black top soil. I've tried Komodo LP's but they don't have enough spike to hook up on the surface. Traction wise the best tire has been proline maxx mulchers but it is such a heavy tire I am trying to find a lighter one that will allow the truck to retain some of it's agility. I recently ordered panther meat grinders but I ordered ofna dish wheels not knowing they had so much offset so I have yet to mount the tires. I am not a fan of the 40 Series tires and rim due to the there excess width. I like the width of the komodo I just wish it had a larger diamter and taller spike. I am even considering making my own tire by cutting and combining several others but I don't want the expense and time associated with doing this. Was just wondering if any of you guys knew of a better alternative, or even a way to mount pythons on non-revo rims, I'd like to maintain the standard width/track of the truck. Thanks in advance for any help.

Proline has a new 40 23mm that is for a Revo. Meaning that the offset is not
like the new 40 series 23mm HD Velocities. These wheels are a 14 spoke
wheel also and looks pretty nice.

[ktmkurt]

Cr,
Do you know where I can get another ackerman?
P# c8079-1 Silver or
p# c8079 purple

I tried to order one from HobbyTown and
they told me that the part was discontinued.
It is a fairly new truck. Can't figure out why it would
be discontinued.

[CRSMP5]

send me a PM i have 1 left.. my guess is its on backorder..

k4.6 mounting..

must have the 4mm engine plates that i know the pro comes with... c7005 i beleive the rtr also has them.. but cannot be certain.. they in combination with the stock engine mounts it fits.. i now have mine mounted in my buggy to play with..

[thedarkness]

I recieved my sh 28. Is the non-pullstart backplate for the sh 21 pro buggie motor the right one for 28.
Yes it is you will still have to cut the pin off the end of the crank.The engine will even perform better without lugging arount the starting mechanism

[Keith-OH]

Ok tuning experts. I need a little advise here. My truck likes to idle up and down. It will be fine then for some reason it will start to idle high and then normal again. I see no air bubbles in the fuel. What can I check? All the fuel lines look fine.

[hyperstang]

Hey CR,
I sent you a PM regarding the HPI 4.6

thanks

[CRSMP5]

keith how high?

you got reply hyper, as i stated there i do not know which purple engine plates a rtr has, anyone know if they are 3 or 4mm thick?

[Keith-OH]

CR, the tires will turn and the truck will start to move. Then idle back down. I richened up my LSN and it looks like that helped. I may try to move it more.

[hyperstang]

AWESOME!!

thanks CRSMP5..

Unfortunately, my LSP didn't make this weeks shipment, I guess next week Tuesday at the earliest. Bummer...but can't wait. Will race it that Sunday.

Race on..

[98zr2man]

I haven't ran the truck with the 59mm rear toe block yet. I know the truck will be more stable but how would it turn in and out of a corner.

Thanks

[andersun16]

Found a few good places for parts for the LSP.

www.stormerhobbies.com

www.amainhobbies.com

Both of these shops stock most of the parts and amain takes paypal!!!

Hope this helps!

[98zr2man]

Yes A-Main is very good and fast with shipping.

Also lots of parts here: http://www.rcihobbies.com/

[Monsterbrad]

Man you guys move fast on here in a day or so.
Been sick as a dog with this damn stomach flue so racing this weekend is out for me tomorrow just have no energy and feel like ****!
Oh well next week.
Hey CR I mounted the stock revo wheels on the truck and put my new body that you painted up for me on and I can say that it looks killer with the big chrome wheels and the body.
with the Mach in there it runs like it looks now tooo!!!!
Love this truck

[CRSMP5]

wheres the pics mb?

[K2-WS7-9863]

Wanna fit a nice .21 in my LSP. Does anyone know if a standerd starter box will fit the LSP chassis.

[jmangler1]

Hey has anyone put a two speed in one of these yet? Does it need it for mure low end? I order a LSP from my LHS and it wont be here until mid March he said, this sucks! I almost feel like getting a Revo or TNX intead of waiting, but I here so much good stuff about this truck I'm going to wait it out! I hope it is everything it is made out to be! Any way I'm getting as much info as I can so if their is changes that need to be done I will be all over it when it get here! Does anyone have a Sirio .27 in theirs if so how do you like it?

[CRSMP5]

i say rossie 28 8 port over the 27...

no need to a 2nd gear that ive seen... :D just ask keith what he thinks of mine..

[Keith-OH]

K2-WS7-9863: I am using a XTM starter box. I ended up trimming the hole bigger where the wheel hits the flywheel to make it easyer to start. Mine works perfect now. As for 2nd gear. If your truck went any faster then CRSMP5 truck I think there would be no way to control it unless you had like 15 feet wide lanes. And no need unless you have about a 300 foot straight way. No idea how fast his is but i would say it does 60+ MPH.

jmangler1: I had to wait for almost a month for mine. It was worth waiting everyday and is worth every penny. A stock Revo and TNX has not change against a LSP. Mine is stock and I lap the other guys at the track. Only thing that has been close is a LST that keeps braking part and never gets to finish a race. I was first looking at the Revo's then LST's. Then I seen the LSP and had to have one. Guys at the track ask how long I been driving. It has only been about 1 month. This thing is so easy to drive!!!!!!!

[Walter T Flower Jr]

What kind of gearing are you running in your LSP CRSMP5? I have had mine for over a month with the stock mill which is a dog, anyone run the Picco .26 in the LSP? I run one in my Savage which has been trouble free and has lots of juice, any word on O.S. coming out with a BIG ( .26 or .28 ) block ?
Walter

[CRSMP5]

60 LOL.. no ill say a mid 50s.. 50t spur, 14t cb, stock tires.. it is as easly fast as if not faster then a buggy with 14t cb, 47t spur with a ws7II

os supposedly does.. but no info yet, it was on show at a japan toy show.. one of the central members let that much slip but no details..

picco 26= crap.. buy a real engine.. even a mach/sportwerks... just do not waste your hard earned money on that mill.. yes i have a attitude against it.. after running a mach, and all these high $ engines i have, id never reccomend a picco/wasp/p3 26 to anyone..

if most money was to be spent.. the rossie 28 8 ort turbo, modded by eb mods is th eway to go.. i foudn mine new from critters for 380 shipped to my door... its just sick.. the new HPI k4.6 woudl also work well in it, direct fit from what i can see, and more then enough torque for 14/15t cb and great rpm for beign a 28..

[gr8taz nitro]

Finally got to race today and CR, you were right about the stock tires. Loose dirt on top of hardpack and it was like driving on ice. Switched to a set of traxxas sportraxx on rpm offset claws and was soooo much better. Gonna have to put my new fantom 27 in though. There was a guy running an ofna blazer today and it was like having one of them yappy dogs like a chihuahua running at my heels. :D

Hey do you know what size the droop screws are? I forgot to locktite and lost all of em.

[98zr2man]

4mm x 12mm

[Monsterbrad]

I don't know what size those are going to be.
Check with tower hobbies they might now either that or cr might know!
They look like 6-32 to me but I am thinking that they will be metric.

[98zr2man]

The droop set screws are 4mm X 12mm I just bought a box of 50 from mcmaster myself

[Monsterbrad]

Cr told me a while back that there was a different way to stop the arms from going all the way down like they do.
I don't like how the droop screws dig into the chassis.
Also still trying to get the aluminum rod ends for the shocks!

[98zr2man]

I bought my rod ends here


http://www.racers-edge.com/store/customer/home.php?cat=286

[Monsterbrad]

3.0 or 3.5 mm ones
I can't remember?

[CRSMP5]

3.0 3.5 does NOT fit..

[Monsterbrad]

Cool
thanks cr
did not get out to the track this weekend still feeliung like **** from this damn flue that I got.
I was really lookin forward to running the Mach too....
Damn
oh well

[gcobra16]

Just got home from some testing at our track. My sh 28 back plate is'nt here so I used HB 26. I also fried my UE 4 shoe clutch, so I used stock 3 shoe with new shoes. So needless to say I was pretty much stock except for Jammin pipe. Yesterday I redone all of the difs. Wow does this thing rock. Have any of you guys had a problem with the dif cups wearing out on rear outputs? I have maybe a 1 1/2 gallons through truck and cups are shot.

[CRSMP5]

never seen a output cup wear.. thats odd..

[hyperstang]

Keith,
Do you have a pick of your starterbox from XTM??

thanks

[Keith-OH]

Here you go. In the 2nd picture you can see where I trimmed on the sides by the flywheel. It makes it a lot easier to start. The part that is painted yelllow is the part I cut a little bigger.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v309/Keith-OH/DSC02843.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v309/Keith-OH/DSC02845.jpg

[hyperstang]

thanks keith,
what motor are you currently running???

[Keith-OH]

Stock :)

[hyperstang]

Pictures man...I gotta see pictures. My bad boy comes in on TUESDAY, hopefully broken in for my Sunday race :D

[Monsterbrad]

I wish I could post some pics my camera does not work anymore with the new computer my bro has here.
Oh well
Anybody try the imex super off set rims on this truck yet.
I have a pair threw them on just to see what it was like with the rims no tires its wider with just the rims than with the rim and tire combo of the wide off set RPM wheels.
Super wide but then again this might be dangerous for the suspension!

[gcobra16]

This is the rear output dif cups. None of the others are showing much wear. The problem with this is when the suspention is fully extended the pins catch on the notch. Not Good.

[Keegy]

I bought my rod ends here


http://www.racers-edge.com/store/customer/home.php?cat=286

hey 98zr...
which ones did you get, the rod ends...they have 3 listed on that link...thanks!

heres mine> :)
http://photobucket.com/albums/v359/John-John/Lightning%20Stadium%20Pro/

[CRSMP5]

3mm ends.. none of the others will fit..

OMFG never have i seen wear like that on any lightning.. call HB email them a pic.. id demand satification...

[JTK37]

I sorted through this thread but I couldn't find any info on the stock Lightnign stadium servos. Does anyone know the torque and transit time ratings for the stock gear? Thanks.

[Monsterbrad]

Most of us just kick the old rtr servo's and put in our own.
I am still running the stock throttle servo as it seems to work very well.
For steering I am using the hitec 645 which is a little slow but its really easy to get used to it and it drives the wheels in direction with no problems.
Has enough torque to get the job done.
I use this same servo in my MGT and it works awesome also.

[hyperstang]

that is good to hear. My LSP should come in tomorrow and I am going to throw in my servo's from my Kanai II in there.

Would limiters help with that output diff cup? I have fishing wire on my REVO to limit the suspension, would something like that help with that problem?

[CRSMP5]

limiters will help.. yep..

servos are same as stock savage rtr ones...

[GasGod]

just saw some photos of the thunder tiger truggy-based on the new s3== awesome :eek: long arms,but the chassis is not as long as the lsp,longer than the S3 chassis tho--avail mid march--they say ;) it was at the nurberg(sp)toy fair in germany.Now I am really confused--lol

[xxxkat]

Few questions..Has anyone switched from the Pro arms to the RR ones? I switched and have not been able to try them out because of the weather..darn rain.. :mad: They seem to have alot of flex,what gearing(clutch bell)have you guys been running??Thanks..Oh and a few pages back i read where someone had said that the Peak motor had a flat spot in the middle..you must not have driven a good one,because the one i have pulls all the way to the top with no flat spot anywhere in the rpm range,thats with a 15 tooth bell.

[CRSMP5]

i have a 14t on my rossie 28 8 port.. more then enough..

i hasve not went to plastic arms.. i have a set but am holding off for the cf/light weigth one im building from parts..

[ericmyson]

wassup rc enthusiasts,
Im a newbie on the forums, i joined the forums just because of the hotbodies truggy.
just got my hotbodies truggy and this thing is meannnnnn!
I'm sad to say i recently retired my mgt from racing. My mgt held its own with full blown truggies, revos, lst's, and big block t-maxxes.
I got to test my truggy on our local track and i was really really impressed of how nimble, quick, and stable this truggy is. I thought it was gonna push alot, but i was so wrong. I'm running from front to rear (7k,10k,3k) diff oil. I noticed alot of flex in this truggies platform. I just used old turnbuckles to brace the front top and rear top of the platform. It help alot.
The stock motor is ok, but i think i'm gonna replace it with a better one (any suggestions).

as for the rear hub carriers, what's the difference with putting the hub hingepins in the upper or lower holes.

If this has already been answered, im sorry.
But, I was also shocked with how many pages there were about this truggy.

[ericmyson]

is a 15t cb overgearing?
I will be trying out a Mach .26 with it.

thanks folks.

[VMach]

A 13T CB comes on it. The Mach .26 is a stronger engine but not two teeth worth. I myself run a O.S. V-Spec(turbo) w/a 2050 pipe and I still run a 13t CB. The V-Spec has the bottom end and the RPM's to run strong just the way it is.


I've just switched from the aluminum arms to the plastic ones myself. They do seem to have too much flex but so does my MBX-5! I think it will be fine. I'd rather have some flex than break.

I'd also like to know what effect the other hinge pin hole has.

[xxxkat]

Thats what I'm running(15)On the motors(due to my budget) I run a Peak .28,If money was not an issue i would run A REX 8 port .28.But for me the Peak is more than enough HP wise for the tracks i run on.

[hyperstang]

Yo ERICMYSON..

You race in Hawaii???

If so, I'll be joining you out there this Sunday with my own HB LSP...

AAWWWRIGHTTT!!!!

[xxxkat]

I think it would have the same effect as putting washers under a ball stud.You would be changing the roll center,I would think if you use the lower hole it(should)will decrease the roll stiffness and this will give you more on power steering and less foward traction,It will also help your truck go through the bumps better,If you move to the upper hole it will(or should)increase the roll stiffness and gain foward traction and also have better rear stability.I have not changed mine(it comes in the lower)I have never had a problem with foward traction,I do however want on power steering.Hope this helps.

[ericmyson]

Yo ERICMYSON..

You race in Hawaii???

If so, I'll be joining you out there this Sunday with my own HB LSP...

AAWWWRIGHTTT!!!!

wassup,

yeah i goin race this sunday, but i goin come late (around after lunch) so i dunno what main i goin make. I just finished breaking in my truggy yesterday and brah! the buggah is potent. Did you get your HB lsp from hypersport? If yes, i think I know who this is. :rolleyes: :confused:

The truggy needs some bracing, if you not goin brace um it might make loud noises when you hit nose first. It don't sound to healthy. :eek: . :eek:
I wen brace the truggy and now the buggah no flex.
shooots cuzz,
I see you sunday if anything

send one pm, let me know if you like know how i did the brace.



xxxkat,
thank you

[CRSMP5]

your changing the backplate on teh mach right?? if not its not going to fit anyways, like 3 pages back i have a how to change it post with part numbers.. i also agree i think id stick to a 14t cb 1st..

[sutman]

I have a 17 tooth clutch bell on mine, but i am running a sirio .27 with komodo dragen tyres. it is a complete animal I love it, the size of your tryes will make a difference to what clutch bell you use as well.

[xxxkat]

That is so very true,When i first tried the Dragons my LSP toped out in about 15 feet with the stock gearing,most big blocks have the torque to pull a gear bigger than the stock 13 tooth.You should be gearing for the size of your track anyway.

[ericmyson]

your changing the backplate on teh mach right?? if not its not going to fit anyways, like 3 pages back i have a how to change it post with part numbers.. i also agree i think id stick to a 14t cb 1st..

CR,

do you think the starting system on the stock HB.26 will fit on the mach 26.

There was an article where the stock starting system on the HB 26 fits on the .28 diablo from peak racing.


thanks man.
in advance.

[CRSMP5]

post 788 http://forums.radiocontrolzone.com/showpost.php?p=1688839&postcount=788

witht hat the stock roto start set up will work, the diablo i sthe wasp 28 which it will fit, but a mach is completly different and requires a different backplate to teh engine, the aluminum is way to big to fit the lightning chassis.. look at that post.. nice set of instructions with part numbers.. also a gs storm backplate will fit the mach...

[xdamxincx]

well theres no turning back i just purchased a pro rtr ..will be here fri ...
i will be racing it here in ft lauderdale fl ..
what are the first things i should do to make this truck ready to race ?
i have high tq servo waiting and i was thinkin about gettin the ofna jammin jp-1 pipe i see a lot of people using them this last state race here..
also should i use their shocks or just throw on a pair of brand new kanai 3.5 mm shocks i have laying around with light blue springs?

[vbgagnon]

Guys, is the stock mill capeable of running a 14 tooth cb? I'm just wondering if its worth it. I have had mine for a month working on it and still can't drive the freakin thing. I just want it to be all set up for this summer's race season. This is the track I'll be running on and am wondering if its worht the 14 tooth bell or just stick with the 13 bell.

http://forums.radiocontrolzone.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=43437&stc=1

This is when it was first built. its 145' X 60'. We now have bigger jumps, a washboard section and a few other tricks. I would take a pic of it now, but all you would see is snow.

Let me know what you think of the gearing and what you think of the track.

VB

[Monsterbrad]

my truck runs great stock gearing and the Mach engine.
Seems to have great all around power.
As far as getting it ready to race try it stock if you want or change the oils in the diffs.
Front
50
rear
stock
center
120000
hope this helps
I was thinking about 50wt shock oil in all 4 shocks but I have not deciccided that that will be thick enough.

[jmangler1]

I have a 17 tooth clutch bell on mine, but i am running a sirio .27 with komodo dragen tyres. it is a complete animal I love it, the size of your tryes will make a difference to what clutch bell you use as well.

Hey sutman,
I'm going to install a sirio .27 in my LSP when it gets here and I was just curious as to what oils you put in your diffs and are your tires balooning? Also do you like the motor is over kill? Oh yea what pipe do you think I should use Jammin JP-1 or JP-2 for the .27?

[CRSMP5]

my diff oils.. rember eb modded rossie 28 8 port turbo

3k rear, 7k front, 50k center.. it still balloons the fronts alittlebut its due to the massive weight shift due to all the torque it has.. the hb blue springs helped alot..

the kyosho springs will never work on it.. the shocks are good standbys or parts for shock shafts though..

[jmangler1]

my diff oils.. rember eb modded rossie 28 8 port turbo

3k rear, 7k front, 50k center.. it still balloons the fronts alittlebut its due to the massive weight shift due to all the torque it has.. the hb blue springs helped alot..

the kyosho springs will never work on it.. the shocks are good standbys or parts for shock shafts though..
\
Cool thanks!

[ericmyson]

my truck runs great stock gearing and the Mach engine.
Seems to have great all around power.
As far as getting it ready to race try it stock if you want or change the oils in the diffs.
Front
50
rear
stock
center
120000
hope this helps
I was thinking about 50wt shock oil in all 4 shocks but I have not deciccided that that will be thick enough.


how did you get your mach to fit.

[hyperstang]

Wassup Ericson,
Check out a couple of pages back, CRSMP5 has a detailed reply to that question and the part needed to fit that bad boy.

He currently is helping me get my HPI K4.6 in my LSP.

KDEN

[CRSMP5]

mb used the gs storm backplate.. but he saw my instructions 1st..

[CRSMP5]

here ya go!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

http://www.hotbodiesonline.net/Lightning_gtx2/lightning_gtx2.jpg

55008 Lightning GTX2 (RTR)

Lightning GTX2 (RTR) Features:

• Dual .26 POWER FACTORY ENGINE W/JUMP START
• LONG WHEELBASE MAIN CHASSIS(7075-T6)
• SPIRAL BEVEL GEARS
• 50T CENTER GEAR
• 4mm F/R SHOCK TOWERS(7075-T6)
• COMPOSITE LONG SUSPENSION ARMS
• 8 LONG SHOCKS
• FULL SEALED BEARING
• HARDENED STEEL DIFFERENTIAL GEARS
• ALUMINUM FRONT SUSPENSION HOLDER
• RACING WHEELS & TIRES
• DUAL BRAKE SYSTEM
• LIGHTNING GTX2 PRE-PRINTED BODY
• RADIO & RADIO GEAR
• DUAL HIGH TORQUE STEERING SERVOS
• FUEL BOTTLE
• GLOW STARTER
• 12 "AA" BATTERIES
• PLUG WRENCH

http://www.hotbodiesonline.net/Lightning_gtx2/gtx2_chassis.jpg

http://www.hotbodiesonline.net/Lightning_gtx2/gtx2_carbs.jpg
Check out the dual engine layout! Two of everything is required for ease of tuning and starting

Dual carbs provide the aspiration to the Dual .26 racing engines.

http://www.hotbodiesonline.net/Lightning_gtx2/gtx2_brace.jpg
The truck has been beefed up quite a bit over its GT counterpart. It produces huge amounts of power that require stronger parts in order to keep it structurally sound.

[CRSMP5]

p.s. mine is on order.... :D

[vbgagnon]

*** Hotbodies is growing by leaps and bounds WOW

[xdamxincx]

wow that brace that surrounds the cup is ideal.. wonder if my LSP would benefit from that ....

and on another note i have read where the aluminum rod ends for the shocks are either 3mm or 3.5 mm .. which ones are they ??

and i am sure my truck has all the upgraded stuff from the first batch trucks.. but still not sure what is different....

o and where do i get the 2 oz extra tank and info on how to set it up ?

[xdamxincx]

another thing i was thinking of running 30% in this motor any arguements???

[hyperstang]

I plan on running 30% Mugen as soon as I get mine. I currently run 30% mugen in my OS 18TM in my REVO...

[ericmyson]

CRSMP5,

Thanks for the info on the mach. 26 mod.

I used the GS backplate and one way. and the roto.

Got three tanks so far i'll be finishing the break in after lunch today. Ran the third tank about 10 pm here in hawaii. I wonder which of my neighbors are pissed off :p :p :D . Anyways, thanks again.


Hyperstang,
so what, yours one ready already?
check you out laters.

[CRSMP5]

aluminum ends are 3mm for the shock ends.. 3.5 DO NOT FIT yes it was argued and i had to find out the hard way...

wonder why he has not posted since the argument.. LOL

the 2oz tank if a heli product, its called a header tank, it has a clunk in it so if ya flip it over it keeps feed to the engine.. its a old savage trick to eliminate the 1/2 tank lean issue from the original 21rtr..

im glad the tip helped.. thats why we need to rember it is posted and use it for others as it makes it a simple install..

[sutman]

Hey sutman,
I'm going to install a sirio .27 in my LSP when it gets here and I was just curious as to what oils you put in your diffs and are your tires balooning? Also do you like the motor is over kill? Oh yea what pipe do you think I should use Jammin JP-1 or JP-2 for the .27?

Hi jmangler1, The Sirio .27 is agreat engine, the power is good through the rev range. I like this engine alot, I have got a sirio buggy pipe at the moment but not happy, sirio are bring out a .27 pipe soon I am also looking for a pipe. Diff oils are rear 10,000, center 60,000, and front 30,000 seems to work for me. I have no problems with ballooning, but I am running komodo tyres :)

[jmangler1]

Thanks for info sutman! Right now I have a Ofna 086 pipe which is for top end. Does the Sirio make its power up top or is it a low to mid engine? I never got a chance to run my sirio yet so I figured you would know since you have ran yours already. Where can I get a set of the komodo tires at and which rims fit?

[proraptor2625]

Well guys I have to get rid of my lightning stadium...I just dont have time to drive it anymore. Here is the ebay link:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=5959114961&ssPageName=STRK:MESE:IT

[Monsterbrad]

the first person to bail on the LSP club.
I am normally the first to sell things!
I am not selling this truck though as long as I can race it.
Oh well
Hey cr I called robert he said he might have those rod ends in next week.
If not I am going to just order direct from racers edge!

[proraptor2625]

I really dont want to see the truck go but I have no time to play anymore :(

[CRSMP5]

there is always time to play... LOL.. you just want the GTx2 and need funds right :D

[hyperstang]

AAAWWWWMAN!!!

If mine wasn't sitting on a showroom floor ready for me to pick it up tomorrow, I would do a buy it now from you.

two shakes....

Well sad to see it go..man that thing is clean..

Race on...

[hyperstang]

Yo Ericmyson...

I pick mine up tomorrow and I going try break it in at Waipio during lunch time. Might swing by Sandy's or Aloha's to pick up the tmaxx/emaxx links to brace the chassis.

KDEN HAWAIIAN

CYA at the TRACK..

[ericmyson]

Yo Ericmyson...

I pick mine up tomorrow and I going try break it in at Waipio during lunch time. Might swing by Sandy's or Aloha's to pick up the tmaxx/emaxx links to brace the chassis.

KDEN HAWAIIAN

CYA at the TRACK..

go pick the revo aftermarket ones. The red ones.

I goin play at the track tomorrow (thursday). Goin get couple guys. I goin Tune my mach. 26 to the track.

laters.

[sutman]

Thanks for info sutman! Right now I have a Ofna 086 pipe which is for top end. Does the Sirio make its power up top or is it a low to mid engine? I never got a chance to run my sirio yet so I figured you would know since you have ran yours already. Where can I get a set of the komodo tires at and which rims fit?
There is loads of low to mid end power and just keeps on reving, I got my komodo tyres from http://www.stormerhobbies.com/ and will fit T-maxx style rims got mine on some RPM rims.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v488/sutman/Picture057.jpg

[Chevy-SS]

Well guys I have to get rid of my lightning stadium...I just dont have time to drive it anymore. Here is the ebay link:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=5959114961&ssPageName=STRK:MESE:IT

That's a clean truck. Is it the "Pro" version? I'm fairly sure it is not the Pro version.

Guys, how much difference is there from the RTR to the Pro? Will the RTR do as well on the track as a Pro? I would rather have the plastic a-arms anyway, as aluminum will surely bend (or cause something else to break).

Thanks

[ktmkurt]

Hey Sutman,
So how do you like the Sirio .27?

Chevy SS,
Get the Pro. The pro has many upgrades then the RTR.
Then you could always just put the plastic arms on.

Has anyone tried the Team Infinity Samurai .28
or know if this is a good engine.

[Keegy]

can anyone gimme a link to buy a better chassis brace? im also interested in that aftermarket REVO red one...(???) would like to know what is a direct fit for it...

we're abot to have a snow storm here again in NYC so its time to just upgrade and sit back....

[VMach]

Check out the Braces I made out of Revo and T-maxs turnbuckles. The pics are back on pg 33. A couple posts down lists all the part numbers for them.

[Monsterbrad]

I also did the revo up grade and it made a huge difference in chassis flex which this truck does have a bit of.
But that mod takes care of 90% of it!
It still flexes a little but what truck does not just a little somewhere.
Still waiting to race my Mach also just broke it in and have run it a couple times around the house lots of power now!
I like the new truck also cr
LOOKS SWEET!

[proraptor2625]

That's a clean truck. Is it the "Pro" version? I'm fairly sure it is not the Pro version.

Guys, how much difference is there from the RTR to the Pro? Will the RTR do as well on the track as a Pro? I would rather have the plastic a-arms anyway, as aluminum will surely bend (or cause something else to break).

Thanks

The truck is not the pro model. I didnt see the need to buy the pro just like you. The rr runs awesome and will hold its own on the track. The only thing with the rr is they dont put silicone in the diffs so you get some unloading in the front wheels. Add that and it will run awesome!

[ericmyson]

can anyone gimme a link to buy a better chassis brace? im also interested in that aftermarket REVO red one...(???) would like to know what is a direct fit for it...




we're abot to have a snow storm here again in NYC so its time to just upgrade and sit back....


check out pages 16 and 17.

[ktmkurt]

The truck is not the pro model. I didnt see the need to buy the pro just like you. The rr runs awesome and will hold its own on the track. The only thing with the rr is they dont put silicone in the diffs so you get some unloading in the front wheels. Add that and it will run awesome!

There are a few more differences then just silicone diff oil. With the Pro
you get Hardened gears in the diffs, 3 shoe clutch, better shocks and a couple of other things. CR posted somewhere in this thread about all the
differences.

Has anybody ever tried the Team Infinity Samurai .28

[proraptor2625]

There are a few more differences then just silicone diff oil. With the Pro
you get Hardened gears in the diffs, 3 shoe clutch, better shocks and a couple of other things. CR posted somewhere in this thread about all the
differences.

Has anybody ever tried the Team Infinity Samurai .28


I am quite aware of the differences between the 2 models. But all you need to do is add some silicone oil to the diffs and the RR will run just as good if not better than the pro especially without the extra weight of all the aluminum on the pro. The only other thing that the pro has thats worth while is the 3 show clutch. But you only really need that if you are running a hot engine in my experiences. The stock final gears that come with the RR work fine. This is my second lightning stadium. The first one had a RB C5 in it and it was an RR and the thing held up fine.

[ericmyson]

what part and manufacturers are compatible with this hotbodies truggy. e.g. Kyosho or GS front c-hubs.

What else will work?, how about diff gears? Which other brands of cars out there have the same diff gears?

I just wanted to know just in case our local hobby shops don't have hotbodies parts in stock.

thanks in advance.

[ktmkurt]

what part and manufacturers are compatible with this hotbodies truggy. e.g. Kyosho or GS front c-hubs.

What else will work?, how about diff gears? Which other brands of cars out there have the same diff gears?

I just wanted to know just in case our local hobby shops don't have hotbodies parts in stock.

thanks in advance.

Not sure about the GS hubs but, the Kyosho hubs fit.
The Pro has spiral cut gears in the diffs so I think you would
have to run only the spiral cut gears there. Hope this helps Brah!

[Monsterbrad]

The shocks are also different on the pro version the shafts are thicker and you get the duall brake in the pro version too.
I like the pro cause of the aluminum stuff just makes it look cool and more race ready.
But everybody has there opinion
but I have to say this though I have never heard anybody stick up for a 2 shoe clutch they just suck for the most part three shoe are the way to go!

[hyperstang]

Finally arrived..

Got my LSP and this thing looks CCRRRAAAZYYYY!!!

Just got through putting in my Electronics and I had an extra set of Rod for my REVO (Black) and I made my chassis brace. Really not that hard. I don't know if I can get any fuel in her today, but maybe Saturday and a little more on Sunday before the race. If not, my REVO with OS TM will go out on Sunday, but I'll probably make time for the break in..

Here she is..

Putting on the braces for the chassis..
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v280/TritonDRIFT/DSC00957.jpg

My Novak Crytal less receiver with fail safe..

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v280/TritonDRIFT/DSC00958.jpg

Pictures of the front and rear brace..
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v280/TritonDRIFT/DSC00959.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v280/TritonDRIFT/DSC00960.jpg

Now I need to add diff lube, what is everyone running again or what is a good start off with.

Also, this is a stupid question, :confused: but how do you get the lube in the center diff, will I need to tear down and open her up, also do I need to open the front and rear diffs to get the lube in there also??

Sorry, all my 1/8th scale stuff was done by another person, so I need some old school learning..

RACE ON!!!! :)

[mo-motor]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v326/MO-MOTOR/IMG_9209001.jpg Just a pic of my LSP in Action. This shot is from the CRCRC winter indor Gas Champs first year for the MT class.I run 32.5 shock oil in the front and 35 in the rear.DIff oils are as follow 7000 7000 3000 and it seems to work great.I have had this truck since they came out with the first shipment.and i have been through 4 front diff cases one front shock 3 of the front purple brace and final one steering knucle.Now i have switch to all MP777 front end parts from king heads and have had no problems.

[Letsavit]

Hey Eric just to make sure before i order the stuff....if i get the GS backplate and OWB i can fit the stock roto start onto my mach.... :) have got the part no.s ?

Thanks

CRSMP5,

Thanks for the info on the mach. 26 mod.

I used the GS backplate and one way. and the roto.

Got three tanks so far i'll be finishing the break in after lunch today. Ran the third tank about 10 pm here in hawaii. I wonder which of my neighbors are pissed off :p :p :D . Anyways, thanks again.


Hyperstang,
so what, yours one ready already?
check you out laters.

[CRSMP5]

savage diff gears, also teh pro has sealed bearings, additional aluminum suspention brace, 3 shoe clutch, 7075 steering knuckles..

[gcobra16]

I got the SH 21 Pro Buggy backplate. It looks like I only need to take a 1/16 of an inch off the Crank step down for the back plate to go in all of the way. The step down on the end of the crank is a good 1/8 of an inch long. I looks like the con rod will be able to move side to side. Shouldn't the con rod, end of crank, and back plate almost come together?

[Keegy]

can i use any Ofna starter box for the LSP? that roto start barely fits into its spot because the wide bumper so it makes starting a hassle to manuever the roto post through the bumper slot and then find it's catch...
ive never owned a starter box only pull starts and rotos...
do you just lay it on top and switch the box on?

[hyperstang]

What weight diff lube does the RTR (Not the PRO) come with?

Do I need to disassemble the fr/rr diffs to put the lube in? Do I need to open up the center?

thanks

[xdamxincx]

im not sure if i read about the 40 series proline rims with bowties....but am i going to have any problems with these wheels and tires ???

[xdamxincx]

can i use any Ofna starter box for the LSP? that roto start barely fits into its spot because the wide bumper so it makes starting a hassle to manuever the roto post through the bumper slot and then find it's catch...
ive never owned a starter box only pull starts and rotos...
do you just lay it on top and switch the box on?


your suppose to go from under the bumper and under the arms with the rotostart shaft .. if u push the truck down a lil it helps a bit .but u really dont have to ...

i tried to get it to work on my starter box and its a pain.. i need to make the opening to the flywheel a bit larger.....

[CRSMP5]

keith-oh showed his starter box opening mod on i think 1 page back..

the rtr non pro has grease in the diffs, so needs taken apart, grease cleaned out oil put in.. no idea on weights

sh backplate.. make sure there is enough room so when the crank heats up and expnds it will not hit the back plate.. if it does say by by engine...

[ericmyson]

Hey Eric just to make sure before i order the stuff....if i get the GS backplate and OWB i can fit the stock roto start onto my mach.... :) have got the part no.s ?

Thanks Yeah, i ran the gs backplate and GS one way, and used the stock roto that came with the HB .26. Make sure you put the black spring that comes with Mach .26 roto system behind the one way bearing shaft and then you put on the roto cover.

The funny thing is that, I got to run my truggy today with my mach. 26 and dayum. I had to tweak out the suspension and change tires (To much wheel spin with the bow ties.). I had to mellow this bad boy out cuzz i believe our track is too small for the horsepower, I kept overshooting the jumps :eek: . But the "Ballz" is definetly there. :D . I got it toned down, where my lap time were more consistent. Just remember going from the stock motor to the mach .26 may have an adverse effect on your setup :o .

GIVE UM.. CHEEEEEWHOOOOOOOOOOOO

[ericmyson]

What weight diff lube does the RTR (Not the PRO) come with?

Do I need to disassemble the fr/rr diffs to put the lube in? Do I need to open up the center?

thanks

Yo cuzz,
The diffs only get light grease in um out of the box.
"no can, kankanan"

i stay running 7000, 10000, 3000 diff oil(mugen) from front to back. Maybe you would wanna go a little heavier in the middle. There isn't that much front ballooning, but some areas on the track you can see a little front ballooning. But with this set up it's easy to drive on the track. I goin change my center diff oil later, right now i just to lazy. :) Make sure wen you hemo the diffs you put it back properly. You don't want to put your front or rear diffs backward or else you aint goin nowhere. :D (i did that to my tmaxx, when the tmaxx first came out several years ago, wasn't payin attention). Just pour the diff oil carefully just to the top of the spiders. Make sure, after you service all your diffs follow your driveline. REmember that your flywheel/clutchbell always spins counterclockwise. So watch your front and rear diff drive cups and make sure they rotate properly.


let me know how you doin, Sunday is almost here. :D :D :D

oh yeah, no fo get to seal your motor.

[Keegy]

i wonder why Hot Bodies disnt make the LSP totally ready for a starter box...i know a whole bunch of people who only wanna use starter boxes as it soo easy to start w no hassle (well except having to lug around the box as well!!) ... the chassis is thick to shim out a larger opening...what did you guys use? dremel?
i just find it a pain to squeeze that roto start in through the bumper and then find the catch... i find myself lying on the dirt ground doing that once in awhile!

[ericmyson]

Starter boxes should work. Couple guys use starter box at our track on their lsp. IMO i rather use the roto start for now. My mbx-5 starter box is pretty heavy and humbug to lug around. I don't wanna imagine carrying another one for the lsp.

[Monsterbrad]

Thats what I thought about the truck when i put the Mach in it too.
WOW
any way
xdamx
DOn't get the 40 series tires and wheels they are not that good for racing the center is weak and will bend.
Mine did this I got them to look at them at proline but i have not sent them back yet to see if I get new ones yet.
I am glad to see everybody is buying up this truck.
Hey cr too bad we are not all in the same area on the map we would have a hell of a truggy class going on :-)

[CRSMP5]

mb there is a min of 10 for k&b once warm weather gets here and they open.. just you only one who posts here..

[Monsterbrad]

cr where are ya all posting?
savage central?
Just curious

[Keith-OH]

Monsterbrad: I have seen CR post on a lot of different sites. Every time I reasearch something I find a post of his. Off the top of my head. starting grid, savage central, ohionitro, rcuniverse, .maxxtraxxusa, lstcentral, rcnitrotalk, and of course radiocontrolzone and i am sure there are many more.

[ericmyson]

Monsterbrad: I have seen CR post on a lot of different sites. Every time I reasearch something I find a post of his. Off the top of my head. starting grid, savage central, ohionitro, rcuniverse, .maxxtraxxusa, lstcentral, rcnitrotalk, and of course radiocontrolzone and i am sure there are many more.

what about rctech.net? :)

[spesh]

Thats what I thought about the truck when i put the Mach in it too.
WOW
any way
xdamx
DOn't get the 40 series tires and wheels they are not that good for racing the center is weak and will bend.
Mine did this I got them to look at them at proline but i have not sent them back yet to see if I get new ones yet.
I am glad to see everybody is buying up this truck.
Hey cr too bad we are not all in the same area on the map we would have a hell of a truggy class going on :-)

on 23mm hexes they are fine :)

some clearance issues with the steering arms tho, posted a pic a few pages back.

[Monsterbrad]

we'll see about the 23mm hex thing!
I want to see how they are in a bad crash or some major racing action.
THey have the look of being tough but are they???????

[CRSMP5]

i saw no fitting issues witht eh 23mm hex set up..

rcnitrotalk sux balls.. me no post there either cause that humblower dude/mod/arss

i also gave u link to k&b forum, racers section on central, and a few with no ip i know

[Keegy]

ok wheel question:
i recently got a set of RC Raven TMaxx aluminum wheels for my LSP..the inside doesnt have the socket for a hex hub...it has a hole for the axles and pins...well it fits into the LSP just fine and works AOK but i seem to have lost that nice extra width it had seeing as theres no use of a hex hub...would anyone know if there is an extender or adapter that would lengthen that? i hope im making sense...im not sure how im wording it right...if anyone has a clue to help me i'd appreciate it...here's my email address i can email you a pic of what i mean...i can never seem to load pics here no matter how small a jpeg.!!! thanks in advance! johnjohnjesse@earthlink.net

[CRSMP5]

they have to be made for a savage, not a tmaxx first off.. else the step area of the axel where the pin is would not go into the wheel..

also www.photobucket.com get a acct there.. its free, upload the inage to it.. then you can link directly into posts...

[hyperstang]

Are limiters needed on this truck?

I was going limit the extension of the truck when it jumps with some fishing line, but I don't hear to many people doing that.

Should I or can I just race the way it is?

thanks

[Keegy]

yeah i guess i kept hearing that the LSP fits any Maxx wheel so i thought there was no doubt theyd work perfectly...i didnt know it required a Savage wheel...
anyone have any ideas?
any place that may sell an extender part for my problem?
.i did mod with a drill press to a larger hole and that took care of the axle fit. but im soo bummed the width is narrower now...it really makes a difference. this was an expensive wheel and with new tires it came out to alot...i love them and dont wanna lost that investment...
there must be a sort of adapter or extender that attaches to the axle and shaft pins i stead of the HEX nut...yeh so i need one that attaches to the axle and pin and have another axle and pin hole to lengthen.

[xdamxincx]

ok i am going to be gettin the 23 mm upgrades. now i have seen pictures of a panther python tire on the 23 mm rim.. how are the getting it to fit ?

[VMach]

hyperstang, You will need to limit the front some. Look closely at the front C Hubs while holding the nose up in the air. If you look right where the CVD passes thru the C Hub you'll see the C Hub touch the CVD. At least mine did. When jumping bigger jumps the rubbing made it seem like I was appling the breaks thus dropping the nose. I used some 4x12mm panhead screws and screws them in from the bottom just far enough to keep the C Hub off the cvd. I did change out the aluminum arms for the plastic arms too for a couple of reasons. One is I'd rather have some flex than break something and two the set screws stay where you put them in the plastic arms.

[CRSMP5]

xdom they are modding the tire bead.. but the bowties weigh less..

no one i know of makes a stub axel extension.. unless you want it like 1" wide on each corner that will definatly break things...

tmaxx vs savage are only in what you found, aka had to drill the center out a tad to get it to the pin..

[Keegy]

i appreciate your reply CR...
yes i drilled out the hole a bit on a drill press at my neighbor's to get it to fit...i mean it works great...but weirdly enough that small difference is apparent in width...having the LSP originally wide was just superb...i dont care for the stock tires and rims...im using imex pin dawgs...and i spent a pretty penny on those aluminum wheels and i love them so if you end up with any ideas i'd greatly appreciate it CR...you seem to be extremely knowledgable and many different mods and such...

[ktmkurt]

yeah i guess i kept hearing that the LSP fits any Maxx wheel so i thought there was no doubt theyd work perfectly...i didnt know it required a Savage wheel...
anyone have any ideas?
any place that may sell an extender part for my problem?
.i did mod with a drill press to a larger hole and that took care of the axle fit. but im soo bummed the width is narrower now...it really makes a difference. this was an expensive wheel and with new tires it came out to alot...i love them and dont wanna lost that investment...
there must be a sort of adapter or extender that attaches to the axle and shaft pins i stead of the HEX nut...yeh so i need one that attaches to the axle and pin and have another axle and pin hole to lengthen.

I had those wheels on a SuperMaxx when I bought it. That is just the way
they suppose to go on. I would not put extensions on it. I think you might
run into problems with extensions because with extensions you will get a little
slop in the wheels. I ended up selling the wheels. I put the 40s 23mm HD and
Bowties on my LSP. I still have not run it yet, but the truck I think might be too wide. I am thinking about getting the new 14 spoke 40s HD wheels for a Revo. They are a 1/2" narrower. I would just try it the way it is and then
decide if they are too narrow, it just might be o.k.

[Keegy]

i mean i can deal with it...its a difference but not huge...performance and looks wise...i love the wheels too and i can use them on any other truck cuz i sold the others to get my LSP !!! im still open to any suggestions...i couldnt even locate an extention that would work after searching the web for 3 hours late last night!

[CRSMP5]

someone used to sell them on ebay for a savage... it was a "stupid" idea and on the forums when people asked about them we shook our heads as it would increase the ability to rip the suspention/wheel off the truck in a crash.. your pretty much stuck with what ya got..

[Keegy]

looks like i am stuck...weird how we can obsess over the small details!
but any ideas are still welcome.
cheers.

[hyperstang]

Hey VMACH,
You got any pictures of how you installed that screw?

I might just limit the truck tonight all around.

[Monsterbrad]

I would stay away from extensions they are very hard on the suspension.
Another thing
I put stock revo wheels on my LSP and they make it narrower than I wanted also but i am going to try it any way.
Just give the narrower stance a try and see what happens this truck is really stable and it might be ok.
Thats what I am hoping.
If not then I am going to try the stock SUT wheels and tires they are a good all around tire and have low profile look and tight side walls.
Also if you are looking for a good wheel with off set the RPM wide maxx wheel is good and the SUT wheels are a wide off set too!

[Chevy-SS]

Question for racers:

I want to buy/build a small-block class Monster Truck. I am looking at the Revo and then using the new OS .18 TZ-T engine. I am also considering the LSP, using the same engine.

My question is: assuming set-ups are fairly equal and using the same engine (OS .18 TZ-T), which truck (Revo or LSP) do you think would turn the best lap times?

Thanks

[Keith-OH]

I broke another hub. This time it was a Kyosho hub. I ran into a fence post in my backyard. :rolleyes:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v309/Keith-OH/DSC02854.jpg

[ktmkurt]

Don't you just hate it when them darn fence posts
jump out in front of you.

chevy SS,
I also have a Revo with the O.S. 18 TM First off the TZ has more power then the TM,
but there are some mods that have to be done to get it to work and then you can only
use a bump start on it for the Revo. As far as using an .18 in an LSP I really don't know
if it will bolt up w/o some mods. The TM .18 is a direct bolt in for the Revo.

[Keegy]

check it..im gonna be using an OFNA starter box w my LSP and i still have the rear roto start backblate, will i need to change that or can i just leave it in case im too lazy to lug around my starter box? also what backplates would fit stock motor?

[Monsterbrad]

Stay with the BB they are better any way.
Even though the new OS is engine is a power house.
THe Big Blocks have more noticeable torque.

[ericmyson]

check it..im gonna be using an OFNA starter box w my LSP and i still have the rear roto start backblate, will i need to change that or can i just leave it in case im too lazy to lug around my starter box? also what backplates would fit stock motor?


Keegy,

You can leave it as is.

[Keegy]

same goes for pullstart motors?

[ericmyson]

Are limiters needed on this truck?

I was going limit the extension of the truck when it jumps with some fishing line, but I don't hear to many people doing that.

Should I or can I just race the way it is?

thanks


no need cuzz,

my front hubs dont hit nothing when the suspension is fully extended.
I would just get the aluminum shock caps.

I goin probably run mugen shocks (buggy rear shocks) all-around. I goin try them bad boys out.

[ericmyson]

same goes for pullstart motors?

yes,

pullstart is just the pullstart.

the starter boxes bumps the flywheel instead of you yankin on the pullstart.

At the track alot of guys with their associated rtr gas truck have been using my gas truck starter box, because they find out how easy and finger blister free the experience can be.

Just make sure if your using a starter box, make sure the wheel is rotating the right way or else your gonna be crankin the motor backwards or you may go against the one way(not good with a pullstart). The flywheel/clutchbell spins COUNTERCLOCKWISE.

[Monsterbrad]

I had to switch to the pull start with my Mach
not that happy about that cause I hate pulling that damn cord but oh well.
I used what I had laying around wish I had never got rid of my old ofna starter box that ran off a car battery.
But so far the mach seems to start pretty well so I am not worried about the pull start yet.
Plus I put one way bearing grease in the one way which helps to keep the one way from forming that nasty slipping thing.
Starter boxes are nice though!

[VMach]

hyperstang, sorry no pics right now. I simply installed the screw from the bottom of the A Arm rather than the top. I did it before I put the arms on. Once the arms are on you can still adjust the panhead screw by pushing the arm all the way up from the bottom( compress the shock all the way). Keep in mind with aluminum arms you'll have to loctite the screws or they will fall out, with the plastic arms there's no problem.

[gcobra16]

I broke in sh 28 pro yesterday, and hit the track today to practice. I put a good 3/4 of a gallon through it. Never topped 245. This thing Rocks. I was running past a couple Revos like they were tied to a post. Here's my set up.

SH 28 pro
14t Ofna Clutch Bell (stock clutch)
Difs. @ 10f-100c-5r
Jammin JP1
R E alum. shock ends
45wt. F/R (could go 50wt. in rear)
Hi Tec titanium steering servo.
JR XS3
Doubled steering holder
titanium chasis braces

If you remember you guys talked me into the SH. Thanks. I am turning laps almost 2 sec. a lap faster than with my Wasp 28.

[hyperstang]

Ericmyson..

Got through with the break in at Waipio Park today. got about 6-7 tanks of Mugen through her. Wow, this is a fast truck. Ready for tomorrow to up against all you other guys. Take it easy on me though, I probably run 2 more tanks tomorrow during the morning.

KDEN CYA then..

AAWWRIGHTTTT

[hyperstang]

no need cuzz,

my front hubs dont hit nothing when the suspension is fully extended.
I would just get the aluminum shock caps.

I goin probably run mugen shocks (buggy rear shocks) all-around. I goin try them bad boys out.


Thanks for that Ericson...Shoots cuzz!!!

I getting the Mulchers off my REVO tonight and put um on my LSP. Eh, I bought a couple of fuel filters, where should I put um...

KDEN

[Monsterbrad]

I drilled a hole and nothced the splash guard so that I could zip tie my big losi one to the splash guard it self.
The other filter I put on after the big one they work well for extra fuel and I also have 3 ft of fuel tubing on mine for extra run time but with the new Mach it seems to not drink the fuel like the old 26 did.
I am not a fan of the old engine I feel its crap but gets the job done for a cheap engine!

[CRSMP5]

hey mb.. the roto start that came on it will bolt up to the gs storm back plate you put on it... duh... LOL.. just figured id let ya know..

ok.. i was at the good LHS today... got 3 more draglinks (4.00 x 3) and 2 7075 front arm braces (4.00 x 2) 2nd complete set of plastic arms (10.00 x 2), and 2 packs of shock ends/tops for the hb shocks (8.00 x 2).. just let me know if ya need anything anyone... kinda makes me mad, draglinks/braces went up... 8$ now vs 6$ before... :(

ohhh also body 24.00 and factory stickers 8.50 mike did not plan to buy them but woudl liek to sell them if someone was interested.. :D

[xdamxincx]

wow .. i love this truck ..
first time racing the MT class ,i used to race 10th scale truck, and i TQ'd first heat...
stock engine and suspension i didnt touch anything other than doin the bracing and bow tie tires on standard tmax 40 series proline wheel..and a
JP-1 pipe.

motor was very tempermental during break in and tonite at the track..never wanted to just start right up .always have to lean the hell out of the low end to get it to stay running...then after a cpl laps it starts 4 stroking .then i richen up the low and then it runs fine ..

the second heat motor would not stay running .. killed a glow plug ..

was one big main race i got the motor running and it was still lean but not 4strokin ..just idling high as hell.

and my stupid ass messed with the suspension by spacing the springs to bring the arms up around level..

truck was a pain in the ass to drive ,idling high , rear to stiff,and half way thru the race 1 of the rear tires started coming off the rim, this all caused me to wreck a bunch.i placed 3rd

but still one of the greatest times in my life to not race in a year and go TQ over the track regulars i was soo happy...

[Keith-OH]

xdamxincx: I had the same problem with mine idiling high. I had to richen up the bottom end. I make the screw about flush. I used to have a hard time starting mine also. After I got some help tuning it, she starts right up.

[CRSMP5]

hey keith.. if you want a body painted up PM me.. have a clear one as i know you were interested in my translucent red one.

[ericmyson]

Thanks for that Ericson...Shoots cuzz!!!

I getting the Mulchers off my REVO tonight and put um on my LSP. Eh, I bought a couple of fuel filters, where should I put um...

KDEN


I mounted my fuel filter on the center diff top plate (forward right screw on the top). Get plenty room.

[ericmyson]

I had to switch to the pull start with my Mach
not that happy about that cause I hate pulling that damn cord but oh well.
I used what I had laying around wish I had never got rid of my old ofna starter box that ran off a car battery.
But so far the mach seems to start pretty well so I am not worried about the pull start yet.
Plus I put one way bearing grease in the one way which helps to keep the one way from forming that nasty slipping thing.
Starter boxes are nice though!


I used the stock roto assembly on the HB .26 and put it on my mach. 26., of course i also used the GS backplate and oneway. It Fits perfs.

I'm not sure if I'm gonna use this motor after my first race on my lsp. As we speak, a new Track is being built a couple of miles from the honolulu international airport. This track is huge and hopefully will hold a huge race where pros may come down from the mainland. I may save the mach .26 for this track.

anyways, the mach .26 is to ballistic for the track we use now. The mach just can't stretch its legs due to the technical and tight design. I may save the mach and just run the stock HB .26.

[ericmyson]

wow .. i love this truck ..
first time racing the MT class ,i used to race 10th scale truck, and i TQ'd first heat...
stock engine and suspension i didnt touch anything other than doin the bracing and bow tie tires on standard tmax 40 series proline wheel..and a
JP-1 pipe.

motor was very tempermental during break in and tonite at the track..never wanted to just start right up .always have to lean the hell out of the low end to get it to stay running...then after a cpl laps it starts 4 stroking .then i richen up the low and then it runs fine ..

the second heat motor would not stay running .. killed a glow plug ..

was one big main race i got the motor running and it was still lean but not 4strokin ..just idling high as hell.

and my stupid ass messed with the suspension by spacing the springs to bring the arms up around level..

truck was a pain in the ass to drive ,idling high , rear to stiff,and half way thru the race 1 of the rear tires started coming off the rim, this all caused me to wreck a bunch.i placed 3rd

but still one of the greatest times in my life to not race in a year and go TQ over the track regulars i was soo happy...


did you seal the motor

i use racer's choice carb airseal.

http://h1071076.hobbyshopnow.com/ProdInfo/RCC/250/RCC7039-250.jpg

[spesh]

stock engine does like to run rather hot, seems to want to sit aroundthe 280 mark to run well, it also wants alot of leaning on the top end screw, think mine ends up running around the 2 turn mark - but i still get plenty of smoke at top end.

[gcobra16]

I'm getting about 6 minutes on a tank, running hard, with SH 28 (2ft. tubing). How long of run time are you guys getting with the Mach?

[Keith-OH]

Stock engine I am getting 9+min. I was getting 11+ when running really lean.

[RC-scientist]

hey keith.. if you want a body painted up PM me.. have a clear one as i know you were interested in my translucent red one.

I will take you up on the body... I wanted a clear one... Also You want to come off of some shock ends?

BTW what size is the set screw for the arm down travel limiters?

[Monsterbrad]

Hey cr
I took your advice and am using the pull start even though I don't like it.
The Mach seems to be good at starting even with the 3ft of fuel tubing just plug the stinger give it about 10 pulls and its running.
I'll look into the roto start but I think I will stick to the pull start for now.
Like you said if the roto start dies or craps out which mine has done then you are done for that day.
Starter box would be nice for a back up though!

[sutman]

Has anyone tried this pipe and is any good?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v488/sutman/712.jpg


RB 01900-401 TM01 Series. This tuned pipe has been designed for the RB TM line : providing an incredible high torque this pipe will offer you a wide spectum of RPM. Manufactured on high quality polished aluminium, this pipe is very strong and fits almost all Monster trucks with its side pressure nipple

[ktmkurt]

I will take you up on the body... I wanted a clear one... Also You want to come off of some shock ends?

BTW what size is the set screw for the arm down travel limiters?

Set screws are 4mm x 12mm

[jphebert]

Hey guys I modded the stock engine this past weekend. I did exactly what steve pond did in to a S-25. And I must say that this thing is now an animal. The bottem end is scary, and its not bad on top either.

I put about 1 tank through it and it ran like a raped ape! I could not keep it in a straight line with the stock tires. I can't wait until summer and really let this thing scream. Hopefully the bowties will grab on our clay.

I have to give mad props to Steve Pond for showing us how to do the mod!

[vbgagnon]

The last post on here by JPHebert was me. I'm at my fathers and didn't realize he was signed in.

[spesh]

you have some links to that mod?

[vbgagnon]

Its like night and day, just make sure you don't overdo it
http://www.rccaraction.com/articles/htpporting_1.asp

[Monsterbrad]

try rccaraction.com
They did that modding stuff to the 25 thats in the savage!
Just install a Mach and it will run better anyway!
Then again porting an engine is cool.
Just would not want that engine anymore
Hate how it starts!
and runs super hot but seemed to like it though.
Just a cheapo engine!

[CRSMP5]

the tm pipe is NOT as good as a 063 or 086.. its single chamber ment to be loud and for the basher group..

mb you have pm..

ill have to get back with you on the body...

[Monsterbrad]

Cool thanks cr
Can't wait to give the Mach a run on the track!

[Keith-OH]

What shoes do I buy for my clutch? I had one brake around the small hole. Put stockers back in?

[xdamxincx]

is this mach motor u guys speak of the dynamite mach 26 ?
if so do they make a non pullstart that is drop in ?

[stonesavage]

http://beatyourtruck.com/Gallery/albums/othermonsters/afv.jpg

[RC-scientist]

Anyone willing to post there setup for the lightning. Got a big race comming up in a few weeks and wanted to try a few differnt tweaks. i am going to try some revo wheels shod with pythons, plus stock with komodo lp 2's. Any info will be helpful...

I have been happy with a Picco .26 outlaw that has been ported. Anyone changed out the springs? Shocks? What are you useing?

On another note, you see the GTx2 pretty neet basher, until they let twins in the mix...

[stonesavage]

yes they make a non pull version; I will be selling the stock hb26 engine and radio gear out of my lsp it's brand NEW! any taker's. I"M stuck between another mach or the new collari 30 I can get it for $240 cnd.mach been damn good though :D

[CRSMP5]

mugen/ofna/hb/ even savage clutch shoes will work.. i like mugen composites keith..

the GTx2 is posted a few pages back..

set ups..
stock camber
front toe set to 0 with arms level, shortest rear camber block instaled
i have the blue springs on the back of mine, little stiffer then stock, stock on front
7k front, 50k center, 3k rear
50wt in front
45 wt in back
eb mod rossie 28 8 port turbo, mugen composite, .9mm springs, 14t cb

[stonesavage]

mugen/ofna/hb/ even savage clutch shoes will work.. i like mugen composites keith..

the GTx2 is posted a few pages back..

set ups..
stock camber
front toe set to 0 with arms level, shortest rear camber block instaled
i have the blue springs on the back of mine, little stiffer then stock, stock on front
7k front, 50k center, 3k rear
50wt in front
45 wt in back
eb mod rossie 28 8 port turbo, mugen composite, .9mm springs, 14t cbCRSMP5 how's your drivetrain holding up any diff/cvd/clutch problems I'm looking at the same engine or collari30 I want my lsp fast but reliable any info would help thanks.

[xdamxincx]

who makes springs that are interchangable with the hotbodies shocks?

and who has parts in stock ??

[Monsterbrad]

I run my truck all stock with the stock shock oil and springs.
Limiters just off full down helps absorb big jumps when the suspension arms have that far to go.
120,000 in the center diff
50,000 in the front
stock what ever is in the rear
everything else is still stock
was running bow ties but changed to stock Revo wheels and tires.
Have yet to try them if they are no good going to try the stock SUT tires and wheels, I run on mostly hard packed clay.
Mach 26 engine with the GS pull start unit on it.
And yes they do have a non pull start version of the engine!
oh yeah 645 hitec servo its a little slow but I got used to it.

[CRSMP5]

the only springs that you can upgrade with are the option HB blue stiffer, red softer, as there is no buggy spring close to as stiff as even the red springs..

no idea on in stock.. i got mine from http://www.rcihobbies.com/ but you will have to call him as his parts list is not updated

[CRSMP5]

drive train.. for all the time i had the rossie 3 port in it, more bottom end torque, no issue at all except MUST RUN .9mm clutch springs.. else it ate the shoes real fast..

[stonesavage]

drive train.. for all the time i had the rossie 3 port in it, more bottom end torque, no issue at all except MUST RUN .9mm clutch springs.. else it ate the shoes real fast..thanks :D

[xdamxincx]

i am so torn of what to run for tire and wheel set up..

i raced with the regular tmax size bowtie tire on proline rims.. i liked the way it felt .just a lil spin out on some cornering...
and i have a set of 40 series prolines i can try with bowties ..

and i have the 23mm hex upgrade with panthers pythons on the new proline rim..

the tracks is clay hard packed in some areas and loose in others...
what to do .

[xdamxincx]

and on another note i just i cant decide what motor to run ..
i have the stock motor .. i could always port it or

i have a os vsb barely used..

or a new rossi 421 ....

or buy a mach 26 seems to be a popular motor but i think only because it is cheap..but money isnt a object for me...

i am thinkin the 421 because i want to go to boggy creek and run the pro series race when it comes and i think i will need a big motor to keep up.