Hot Bodies Lightning Stadium (PRO/RTR)

[ericmyson]

I just got mail from the editor of one of the big dawgs! I was asked to not broadcast the mail :( . but you can e-mail them if you wana know the 411 between the hb relationship and them.


send me a pm
and let me know

please

[stonesavage]

send me a pm
and let me know

please did ya get it?

[ericmyson]

did ya get it?


yeah,
i got it, wow! very interesting!
who woulda thought!

thanks again for the 411!

[Monsterbrad]

Hot Bodies has a great product there is no doubt about that.
I was not a fan at all till I saw this bad boy in person.
It was just awesome!
I think that Hot Bodies does not have the kick back like Traxxas and some others do for the magazine companies!
Race on
THE LSP RULES!

[stonesavage]

I'm gonna let a little cat outta the bag HOT BODIES OWNS A MAJOR R/CMAG+they own another major r/c company!! they have lots of$$$$$$ TO much that they treat us like #s. I love the LSP LS no doubt and in time there will be so much aftermarket support you won't need to deal with em. ;)

[Monsterbrad]

well I have been thinking about getting an 1/8 scale buggy and I am thinking about going Hot Bodies!
I am really impressed with this truck.
The way they set it up is just awesome.
Hope there is alot of future for the truck cause I thinks its the next big thing getting bigger!
TRUGGY

[CRSMP5]

mb there is only 2 pro1s left NIB that i know of.. speak up real fast as i know 2 persons wanting to buy them both.. and i cannot reccomend a pro2 for what value the pro1 is..

the mugens supposedly killes the lsp at the last national races.. but ive seen quite a few counting myself have same lap times as the fastest buggy at the track..

rc driver does alot of HB reviews.. i expect they sleep together like rcca sleeps with traxxas.. rc driver also gets all the pre ads for new hb stuff vs all the other mags too..

[Monsterbrad]

Yeah but the Mugen kits are always super ass expensive!
I'll stick with the LSP.
I have been accused of being a band wagon buyer in the past so just to prove that I am not
I"LL STICK WITH THE LSP
thanks :D

[kuhn2373]

so give me your thoughts of the paint crs you dont count
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v442/kuhn/DSCF0021.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v442/kuhn/DSCF0022.jpg

[stonesavage]

mb there is only 2 pro1s left NIB that i know of.. speak up real fast as i know 2 persons wanting to buy them both.. and i cannot reccomend a pro2 for what value the pro1 is..

the mugens supposedly killes the lsp at the last national races.. but ive seen quite a few counting myself have same lap times as the fastest buggy at the track..

rc driver does alot of HB reviews.. i expect they sleep together like rcca sleeps with traxxas.. rc driver also gets all the pre ads for new hb stuff vs all the other mags too.. hmm I wonder who owns R/C driver mag. could it be Hot bodies. wink

[Keegy]

so give me your thoughts of the paint crs you dont count
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v442/kuhn/DSCF0021.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v442/kuhn/DSCF0022.jpg

THATS AWESOME! i gotta bronco bod too with crazy sparkle metal flake grape purple paint...
heres mine

http://photobucket.com/albums/v359/John-John/Lightning%20Stadium%20Pro

[stonesavage]

Great looking bronco very original paint!! I'm hoping for proline or anyone to make a extendedtruck body to match the ls wheelbase!

[CRSMP5]

kuhn i think its freeken ugly as sin.. :D since i dont count..

[CRSMP5]

if you do not use the rear wing, the new proline silverado would be big an dwheel base fit..

also yes original paint.. cannot buy those colors, and the cf was painted...

[kuhn2373]

kuhn i think its freeken ugly as sin.. :D since i dont count..
yeah too bad it was your colors :)

[KrisP]

yeah too bad it was your colors :)
Dang, Im gonna have to have one of you guys paint me one. Looks sweet. What did you use for the carbon fiber look? drawer liner stuff?

[Keith-OH]

Very nice paint job. I was never a big fan of that body but it turned out very good. I would like to learn to paint my own stuff!!! You could make some really cool bodies with that carbon fiber look. I would like to see and entire body like that.

Anyone else brake one of the bolts off that hold the front dif on the bottom of the truck? When I went to take the front dif of today to change out my front dif oil one of the big screws broke off.

[CRSMP5]

:D

yea draw liner stuff..

[CRSMP5]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v406/CRSMP5/bodies/twinzilla/tzill4.jpg
thats the proline silverado i spoke of.. thats the LHS twinzilla body i did this week... tested the cf look on it.. then we did kuhn's today

[KrisP]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v406/CRSMP5/bodies/twinzilla/tzill4.jpg
thats the proline silverado i spoke of.. thats the LHS twinzilla body i did this week... tested the cf look on it.. then we did kuhn's today
The top looks like it flat colored. Did you paint the outside? What truck type should I get a body for the lsp as far as fit?

[gcobra16]

gcobra16: What plugs you running in your SH28?

HPI #4

[CRSMP5]

no its color change.. and why its different color..

at the moment.. that one above would fit real nice.. but rear wing and sides would need some trimming to hang it low on a LSP

the bronco, the cuda, the nomad, all fit well.. ill be honest any body can be made to fit.. just need a dremal..

[spesh]

http://pwned.me.uk/~admin/images/rc/IMG_0109.JPG
http://pwned.me.uk/~admin/images/rc/IMG_0115.JPG
http://pwned.me.uk/~admin/images/rc/IMG_0116.JPG
http://pwned.me.uk/~admin/images/rc/IMG_0118.JPG
http://pwned.me.uk/~admin/images/rc/IMG_0119.JPG
http://pwned.me.uk/~admin/images/rc/IMG_0120.JPG
http://pwned.me.uk/~admin/images/rc/IMG_0121.JPG
http://pwned.me.uk/~admin/images/rc/IMG_0122.JPG

Some pics of my wee beastie :)

[Billythekid]

http://pwned.me.uk/~admin/images/rc/IMG_0109.JPG
http://pwned.me.uk/~admin/images/rc/IMG_0115.JPG
http://pwned.me.uk/~admin/images/rc/IMG_0116.JPG
http://pwned.me.uk/~admin/images/rc/IMG_0118.JPG
http://pwned.me.uk/~admin/images/rc/IMG_0119.JPG
http://pwned.me.uk/~admin/images/rc/IMG_0120.JPG
http://pwned.me.uk/~admin/images/rc/IMG_0121.JPG
http://pwned.me.uk/~admin/images/rc/IMG_0122.JPG

Some pics of my wee beastie :)

pics not workin.

[doesgo]

"Anyone else brake one of the bolts off that hold the front dif on the bottom of the truck? When I went to take the front dif of today to change out my front dif oil one of the big screws broke off."

Hey Keith-OH, I've got some super-strong machine-thread screws you can use to replace the weak, stock "wood screws" holding the diffs to your chassis plate. Shoot me an e-mail at doesgo@slapmafro.com if you're interested.

[PCC]

I can't wait for my LSP!. My brother, friend, and I each have an LSP on order at our LHS. Just think, we almost got the GS SUT instead but cooler heads prevailed (it's one of those deals where we all are going to have the same car, truck, buggy, etc, we already have somewhat matching XB8s and V-One RR Evos).

I ran into a friend at the LHS yesterday and he mentioned that he has the Losi LST. When I asked him how he liked it he called it the "Lousy Stupid Truck!

[spesh]

pics working fine here? :o

try http://pwned.me.uk/~admin/images/rc

[Monsterbrad]

I have the LSP and the LST.
THE LST is a great basher
the LSP is a way better racer!
I feel that the LSP will not do some of the things that the LST will but thats just my opinion.

[stonesavage]

pics working fine here? :o

try http://pwned.me.uk/~admin/images/rc LOOKS good!

[xdamxincx]

well i got one gallon out of the stock LSP motor and broke the pin off the crank that holds the rod.... yahoo.... this is the third case i have seen...what a junkie motor .. i havent even had this truck a month yet...

anybody been able to get a hold of hotbodies via phone ?? i cant seem to accomplish that task...

[stonesavage]

well i got one gallon out of the stock LSP motor and broke the pin off the crank that holds the rod.... yahoo.... this is the third case i have seen...what a junkie motor .. i havent even had this truck a month yet...

anybody been able to get a hold of hotbodies via phone ?? i cant seem to accomplish that task... THE LITTLE PIN that turns the starter shaft?or the main con rod pin!! I have heard of the little pins breakin on other engines before not the main crank pin? p.s hot bodies=crappy service get used to it!

[xdamxincx]

THE LITTLE PIN that turns the starter shaft?or the main con rod pin!! I have heard of the little pins breakin on other engines before not the main crank pin? p.s hot bodies=crappy service get used to it!
main crank pin ..

[xdamxincx]

on another note .. does the lightnin pro buggy diff have hardened gears same as lsp ?

[CRSMP5]

what happens is the diff gets shoved sizeways and it shears the head of the bolt off the chassis thats in the works should solve this as the knife edge of the chassis will no tbe a knife edge.. i say stronger screws will solve it though..

"Anyone else brake one of the bolts off that hold the front dif on the bottom of the truck? When I went to take the front dif of today to change out my front dif oil one of the big screws broke off."

Hey Keith-OH, I've got some super-strong machine-thread screws you can use to replace the weak, stock "wood screws" holding the diffs to your chassis plate. Shoot me an e-mail at doesgo@slapmafro.com if you're interested.

[CRSMP5]

the pro2 has the same diff gears as the stadium pro.. the pro1 did not.. you can use savage gears though... :)

KrisP is about to have a pro1 NIB shelf display model (aka missing box)... it gets shipped to him tomarrow along with his black wing for his stadium..

look back 3 or so pages Kieth-Oh broke same place on the crank..

[spesh]

given up on running a buggy wing until i can get over our tracks triples reliably, keep snapping the damn thing off lol :p

[CRSMP5]

i just picked up 2 more pro1 wing mounts today... LOL.. need stock of them..

now when you get to the tripples.. pay attention to the amount of throttle your using.. ive found to hit a jump at 1/4 to half throttle i succeed better then at WOT

[Monsterbrad]

My stock engine was like that when I tore it out and put the Mach in.
It broke when I pulled the back plate off the stock engine!
Kinda cool it did not happen when I was racing it.
Got about a gallon through it!
Ran hot too many times i think. 300+

[xdamxincx]

look back 3 or so pages Kieth-Oh broke same place on the crank..


yea i remember reading and seeing the picture... mine looks just like that ...

i think hotbodies will do something about it .. i am done with the motor for now but i want it fixed so i can put it in a sut and sell it turnkey...

[Keith-OH]

xdamxincx: mine broke the same place and HB is sending me a new one for free. It took me about 3 days to get a hold of them on the phone. I will be selling the new stock engine when i get it. And I will putting in a SH28. I am getting the SH28 for $132 shiipped to my door.

[xdamxincx]

xdamxincx: mine broke the same place and HB is sending me a new one for free. It took me about 3 days to get a hold of them on the phone. I will be selling the new stock engine when i get it. And I will putting in a SH28. I am getting the SH28 for $132 shiipped to my door.


thats kool ... i will def be calling them again till i get some response..until then i guess i will have to put my novarossi 421b turbo in.. what a shame ..lol

[CRSMP5]

im workign on fitting lightning stadium suspention to my savage racer :D finished up parts collection today for that project.. got the front on it now.. makes it 1/2" wider, aka 1/4" on each side.. wonder how well it will work/last

[xdamxincx]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v309/Keith-OH/DSC02873.jpg

yep this is exactly what mine looks like today.... :rolleyes:

[xdamxincx]

i forgot to mention what happened lastnite at the races .. all went well thru the qualifying heats.. but once i get in the main i get about 6 laps into it and i throw a wheel.. ok i was like my nut came of.. went to pits grab another nut and went to put wheel back on and the old nut is still on the truck..okkk so i ripped the rim right off the truck.. so i grab a bowtie on a proline maxx and same dam thing happens... ok this is gettin fun .. so i put another on and on the last lap again.. threw it right off... and this time broke the hex right in half...
i finished second thru all that to i might add but i was stumped .. i still dont know what was happening ..everything looks fine .. my only guess is that i might be damaging my rims by overtightening them .. i use a cordless drill to take rims off the truck and put them on... so i may have just been smushin the rim where it meets the nut and hex..i dunno

[Monsterbrad]

The HB 26 is just a crappy engine.
Its very clear that you are paying for all that good stuff on the chassis!

[xdamxincx]

The HB 26 is just a crappy engine.
Its very clear that you are paying for all that good stuff on the chassis!

yes i totally agree.... i still love the truck though.. i never expected the engine to be the strong point of this truck and hopefully others wont as well ....
i should have just put the engine on ebay like most others did and not of dealt with all this ....

[PCC]

Anyone running a LSP wiht the plastic suspension arms? I'm a firm believer in having a weak link in the suspension that will break before the hard to get at parts do. What I'm wondering is whether it's a better idea to keep the aluminum suspension arms or to downgrade to plastic arms?

[xdamxincx]

Anyone running a LSP wiht the plastic suspension arms? I'm a firm believer in having a weak link in the suspension that will break before the hard to get at parts do. What I'm wondering is whether it's a better idea to keep the aluminum suspension arms or to downgrade to plastic arms?

first i must say great choice in truck . all three of u will be happy with the LSP as i am sure u already know... the wait must be killing u .... lol

second... ur question on arms.. i have been runing the aluminum arms for 3 race weeks with a total of over 12 races on them no breakage or direct cause of breakage coming from the aluminum arms.. i have a cpl semi nasty crashes but that was when i first got the truck and now i may crash only once per race now ...

so u know what ur driving skill is like and what kind of abuse u put on ur trucks ,im guessing u have had one before , but on that note u make the call..

[Keith-OH]

Anyone ever trim on the sides of here hubs so you can turn sharper? The steering arm hits the hub so i trimmed some of the hub off and also moved the screw in the steering arm to the inner hole so you have more room for the turnbuckle. Looks like it should help out but you will have to readjust you stearing if you do this. It all depends on what rims you our using if you need to also trim the stearing ball ends.

[CRSMP5]

my hubs are trimmed.. but not for sharper turns.. the attachment for the tie rod will break the c hub in a bad crash.. i clearance it to prevent this :D

next mutant savage..
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v406/CRSMP5/savage%20_long_arm/conv004.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v406/CRSMP5/savage%20_long_arm/conv003.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v406/CRSMP5/savage%20_long_arm/conv002.jpg

if ya wanna sell the aluminum arms off your pro let me know.. im kinda cheap.. its for the mutant savage project, but i think id pay 75ish for all 4.. im also looking into maybe a derlin set of lower arms.. i sent someone a email to see what can be made and cost..

next.. i have run over 4 gal with the aluminum arms with no issue..

[xdamxincx]

Anyone ever trim on the sides of here hubs so you can turn sharper? The steering arm hits the hub so i trimmed some of the hub off and also moved the screw in the steering arm to the inner hole so you have more room for the turnbuckle. Looks like it should help out but you will have to readjust you stearing if you do this. It all depends on what rims you our using if you need to also trim the stearing ball ends.


i trimed the dust cover on the front hub cariers where the hub hits..... no problems after about 5 races .. plenty of steering...

[CRSMP5]

lookie what ive found....

http://www.hotbodiesforum.com/

[xdamxincx]

lookie what ive found....

http://www.hotbodiesforum.com/


mmmmm hotbodies ....

[Keegy]

ive just joined the HB LSP forum on their site ...thanks CR...
i own other hot bodies so finally they made one...i still wish theyd answer emails and phone calls...

[ericmyson]

do you think the hotbodies forum, is gonna end this forum?
lol

thanks cr,
thats gonna be the site TO BE AT! lol

[hyperstang]

Wasssup braddah Eric

I stay there already under Nitro-Maximus..

KDEN

[stonesavage]

HOW BOUT NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!! hotbodiesforum :rolleyes:

[stonesavage]

if ya live in canada be aware of hidin charges if you order something from stormer hobbies in montana!! p.s i'm movin to LA! :mad:

[ericmyson]

Wasssup braddah Eric

I stay there already under Nitro-Maximus..

KDEN


yeah, i seen um lol

so how you did yesterday?

Brah, thanks so much for the hook up
I got the best price on the island for buying a body.lol lol

i catch you laters?

[DNF2005]

Does Anyone Know Of A Shop In The U.s. That Has An Lsp Pro In Stock???

[spesh]

those new forums are sweet :)

Suggest people head over there, alot more organised than posting all this in one thread!!

http://www.hotbodiesforum.com/forum/index.php?act=idx

[Letsavit]

Hey Monsterbrad...I have just stuck a Mach in my LSP and its only just topping my mates stock pro. I have only just started leaning it out and its only done about 7 tanks but thought i would be leaving him standing. Where is the mach better than the stock...bottom or top end?.. This was only drag racing on road so need to get a few more tanks through the mach and get off road...i love the mach in my LST.... :)

[nate johnston]

Just ordered one today.....
Any suggestions?
I have read all 53 pages of this thread but if someone could summerize the "check for _____" and the tips and tricks I would appriciate it!
thanks!
I did not get the pro version. Mainly becuase it is on backorder but also because I didnt see the need for alluminum a arms.

[CRSMP5]

nate.. look at pages 3-10 as those are most informative...

rear brace, front cvds, loctite, are the biggies.. the rtr has grease not oil in the diffs also...

next im working on a nice list (just not here).. it cannot ever kill the thread here, it is the forum the stadium and buggy grew on, so much great info over here cannot ever loose it, its just time for a easy to find forum.. p.s. ive known about its creation for a few weeks. its just today was the day it opened..

next the aluminum a arms are only a small part fo the pro package.... it sux they are on backorder too... by summer there should be a huge amount avaliable, but i rember when the pro buggy came out it took almost a year to have a stock and supply of them.. they were in and sold as soon as shipments were received.. this is doing the same thing...

[TonyJ]

Did the new forum go down?

Tony J.

[Keegy]

the Hot Bodies forum on the hot bodies site is getting me all confused...
CR you rock though...ive learned soo much from ya!

[CRSMP5]

no ive been on all night posting in the stadium section, its had a few slow times though...

confused how? i have a nice little index now for all the hop ups/issues with threads for people to post in with their ideas.. :D

[gr8taz nitro]

Parts are found!!!!!!

Called Robert and got the last two sets of front hub carriers that he had, Only place that had the parts I was after. Thanx, for the tip CR.

[TonyJ]

For a while I could not loin. It OK now.

CR are you going to copy a lot of the tips there?

Tony J.

[Keith-OH]

I just posted this over on the new forum but for you that dont go there here is what I did this weekend to my truck. I did a little mod to my front hubs to see if i can get it to turn sharper. I did not get to drive it since I did this mod since I am waiting on my new engine. In the fist picture you can see where I trimmed the hub where the steering arm was hitting at. I also moved the screw in the stearting arm to the inner hole for more clearance. For the stock rims I needed to trim the ball ends more to make it turn sharper. As for the Revo rims you can see they almost hit the A-arms since it is turning sharper.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v309/Keith-OH/DSC02910.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v309/Keith-OH/DSC02914.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v309/Keith-OH/DSC02916.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v309/Keith-OH/DSC02915.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v309/Keith-OH/DSC02900.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v309/Keith-OH/DSC02904.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v309/Keith-OH/DSC02918.jpg

[ericmyson]

did anybody try using the mach .26 cooling head on the stock hb engine.

I'm sorry but im just too lazy to find out myself. Id figured someone probably tried it already.
let me know.

thanks in advance.

[CRSMP5]

tony im only copying my info, i do not think its fair to the authors of the other tips to take their work, i hope they bring it over on their own...

ive heard the mach head will fit, but i have never tried it..

[vbgagnon]

Alright guys I have a few questions....

I got the revo push rods and mounted one in front and one in the rear. Is that enough bracing?

Is the doubleing up of the drag link a necessaty? If so would the racers edge kanai be a better fit? Or would it be better to just double up the stockers?

Is there anything else that needs to be done to the truck b4 racing?

[Keegy]

did anybody try using the mach .26 cooling head on the stock hb engine.

I'm sorry but im just too lazy to find out myself. Id figured someone probably tried it already.
let me know.

thanks in advance.

i use the Nitro House cooling head (force .26) with stock engine...but i never used the stock head before... i just sold it on ebay.

[xdamxincx]

I just posted this over on the new forum but for you that dont go there here is what I did this weekend to my truck. I did a little mod to my front hubs to see if i can get it to turn sharper. I did not get to drive it since I did this mod since I am waiting on my new engine. In the fist picture you can see where I trimmed the hub where the steering arm was hitting at. I also moved the screw in the stearting arm to the inner hole for more clearance. For the stock rims I needed to trim the ball ends more to make it turn sharper. As for the Revo rims you can see they almost hit the A-arms since it is turning sharper.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v309/Keith-OH/DSC02910.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v309/Keith-OH/DSC02914.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v309/Keith-OH/DSC02916.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v309/Keith-OH/DSC02915.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v309/Keith-OH/DSC02900.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v309/Keith-OH/DSC02904.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v309/Keith-OH/DSC02918.jpg


i posted this mod a few pages back...

[CRSMP5]

Alright guys I have a few questions....

I got the revo push rods and mounted one in front and one in the rear. Is that enough bracing?

Is the doubleing up of the drag link a necessaty? If so would the racers edge kanai be a better fit? Or would it be better to just double up the stockers?

Is there anything else that needs to be done to the truck b4 racing?

the stock one bends, have part numbers for the mugen one now, but for the under 4$ the stock one is a racer on a budget is the cheapest way to go..

honestly, 1 on each end should be enough, i cannot see a need for 2 of them, i never really had a issue on the track with none..

[hyperstang]

I currently run the REVO Black Pushrods one rod in front and one rod in back. No problems what so ever. Still together and good to go..

[stonesavage]

MY BAD the new hotbodies forum rocks IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE HOTBODIES COMPANY!! it's independent!! run by vertigo and cr! :D

[CRSMP5]

:D ive know about it as long as the cf parts..

there are also more then me on the who runs it.. its just im lucky...

[Monsterbrad]

Hey CR
what new Forum????
Also what shoes and springs are you running?
with that crazy 28 you have????

[CRSMP5]

i have mugen shoes, composites, .9mm springs..

[Spookypoop]

Check out these new pieces from Advantage Racing that Tony Newland posted on the grid. Looks like they'd knock a few grams off the truck "fo shore" ....lol

Towers are 5mm thick
Radio tray/center diff brace .090" thick
Rear chassis brace and front steering brace are .125" thick

retail $119.99/full set

http://advantage.******.net/images/Lightning%20carbon.jpg

[stonesavage]

THE price is right! hmm anyone no how much vertigo is asking for there package?

[Monsterbrad]

Sweet
That stuff will look cool on the truggy!

[CRSMP5]

vertigo's prices should be next week..

[Keegy]

no one posts here no more since the new spiffy hotbodiesforum came to surface...!

[doesgo]

That's too bad. Categories are nice sometimes, but this style of forum is cool for ongoing conversations. Also this method makes it very easy to catch up on everything because it's all there. When there are a dozen subjects it's difficult to go into and back out of every one checking for new posts. Maybe I'm just lazy. :)

[CRSMP5]

i agree.. cannot let this thread die.. must keep it alive..

[KrisP]

That's too bad. Categories are nice sometimes, but this style of forum is cool for ongoing conversations. Also this method makes it very easy to catch up on everything because it's all there. When there are a dozen subjects it's difficult to go into and back out of every one checking for new posts. Maybe I'm just lazy. :)
You can always just click "new posts" lazy. :p j/k. This thread has so much info in it that it would be a shame for it to die.

[mkenm]

HELP 1 1/2 to 2 tanks engine leans out very hard to start! This happens every time i take truck out. I have changed fuel lines,tank,pipe,engine,wasp, now mach no matter what same results. I have pro & rtr swaped every thing more than once. :mad: :mad:

--Mach fix--
I took back plate off mach26 ground it down to right size drilled & tapped, Fit and has worked perfectly And did'nt cost a penny!

[stonesavage]

HELP 1 1/2 to 2 tanks engine leans out very hard to start! This happens every time i take truck out. I have changed fuel lines,tank,pipe,engine,wasp, now mach no matter what same results. I have pro & rtr swaped every thing more than once. :mad: :mad:

--Mach fix--
I took back plate off mach26 ground it down to right size drilled & tapped, Fit and has worked perfectly And did'nt cost a penny! You need to get your local engine guru to show you how to tune if the engine is way lean it will be very hot and very hard to start!

[CRSMP5]

i agree.. its a tuning issue..

[Monsterbrad]

THis thread will not die I can say that.
I will always post here!
Its where it all started for me on the net and RC.
Been in this for over 15 years just found this a couple years ago.
RC is going strong and will continue to grow.
This truggy is getting so much attention right now its unbelievable!
I agree if you are having probelms with a Mach you have tuning issues or an air leak!

[mkenm]

I'm missing something! why does it run so good not hot for two tanks, Seems like a tuning issue would show up before that??? When this happens i have tried richening(and every thing else i can think of)but it will not start at this point. What seems to be happining fuel does not get to carb even with finger over exhaust. have checked for leaks tank,exhaust,carb etc. Thanks

[ericmyson]

I'd like to thank TONY J for taking the time to come out and shoot the breeze and talk story with many RC enthusiast every friday nite at our local NEX.
At the same time TONY modestly took pics of my truggy.

I don't have kids right now, but i'd like to introduce you folks to my son. :lol:

http://www.cam1productions.com/images/Lightning%20Stadium/Lightning%20Stadium%20002.jpg

http://www.cam1productions.com/images/Lightning%20Stadium/Lightning%20Stadium%20010.jpg


http://www.cam1productions.com/images/Lightning%20Stadium/Lightning%20Stadium%20008.jpg

http://www.cam1productions.com/images/Lightning%20Stadium/Lightning%20Stadium%20006.jpg

http://www.cam1productions.com/images/Lightning%20Stadium/Lightning%20Stadium%20004.jpg
Still chasing my track set up and still tryin to tame this rodyC5 bad boy. Hopefully i'll get it before the next race
http://www.cam1productions.com/images/Lightning%20Stadium/Lightning%20Stadium%20003.jpg

Thanks again to TonyJ.....

[Monsterbrad]

I'm missing something! why does it run so good not hot for two tanks, Seems like a tuning issue would show up before that??? When this happens i have tried richening(and every thing else i can think of)but it will not start at this point. What seems to be happining fuel does not get to carb even with finger over exhaust. have checked for leaks tank,exhaust,carb etc. Thanks
CR where are ya here!!!!!!!!
Ok are you using the Mach?
If so once the engine gets too hot you have to shut it down let it cool and start over again.
What plug are you running also???
sounds like you are lean on the low end but then again how long will it idle before it loads up?

[CRSMP5]

the carb is hot, rember hot carb, no fuel will go into it, either the clutch is slipping, the engine is too lean, you have not stated how your checking engine temp, thats the drawback with a aluminum carb.. vaporlock..

[J_Bone]

Is there a roller of the Hot Bodies ??? If so, how much do they run??

[hyperstang]

I'd like to thank TONY J for taking the time to come out and shoot the breeze and talk story with many RC enthusiast every friday nite at our local NEX.
At the same time TONY modestly took pics of my truggy.

I don't have kids right now, but i'd like to introduce you folks to my son. :lol:

http://www.cam1productions.com/images/Lightning%20Stadium/Lightning%20Stadium%20002.jpg

http://www.cam1productions.com/images/Lightning%20Stadium/Lightning%20Stadium%20010.jpg


http://www.cam1productions.com/images/Lightning%20Stadium/Lightning%20Stadium%20008.jpg

http://www.cam1productions.com/images/Lightning%20Stadium/Lightning%20Stadium%20006.jpg

http://www.cam1productions.com/images/Lightning%20Stadium/Lightning%20Stadium%20004.jpg
Still chasing my track set up and still tryin to tame this rodyC5 bad boy. Hopefully i'll get it before the next race
http://www.cam1productions.com/images/Lightning%20Stadium/Lightning%20Stadium%20003.jpg

Thanks again to TonyJ.....

Yo E...

Your TRUGGIE looks nutzzzzz!!!!

If you get time, try go look at my engine. That carb thing is bothering me..

[Monsterbrad]

not a roller version that I know of yet!
that would be nice seeings how the stock engine is kinda crappy.
But then again it has more power than that stupid 2.5 traxxas revo engine.
Nothing Runs Like a Big Block!!!!!!!!!!! :D

[J_Bone]

not a roller version that I know of yet!
that would be nice seeings how the stock engine is kinda crappy.
But then again it has more power than that stupid 2.5 traxxas revo engine.
Nothing Runs Like a Big Block!!!!!!!!!!! :D

I'm even looking used..

[Monsterbrad]

Well try ebay!
I have not looked on there in a while have a hard time not buying things so I stay off there.
Good luck with you search!

[J_Bone]

ya, Ive been on ebay for a while looking...Nothing.

thanks

[Monsterbrad]

Call Speed Zone in TN.
1-866-590-0763
Tell Bill Brad Pence sent ya!
He might be able to help ya.

[CRSMP5]

roller.. LOL.. good luck, rumor i heard is there are going to be 150 LSPs avaliable from now till may.. so to find a pro version will be difficult as there are way too many lookign for one..

right before xmas there was a roller on ebay... someone i know snagged it... but ever since the winter nats there have been none up for sale.. they like hotcakes and no one wants to get rid of them..

[Keith-OH]

I will sell you mine for $2,000 :) Best thing to do is just put your order in now and keeping looking around at the same time. Then just sell what you dont want onlie.

[hyperstang]

the Hotbodies forum is down several times today...

Yo E...

PM me with your phone number again and I'll hook up with you at the track tomorrow.

KDEN

[stonesavage]

ya, Ive been on ebay for a while looking...Nothing.

thanksYou can get a ls rtr for $399 at ultimate or stormer in stock put on pro steering knuckels/race tread/a few minor mods/there is no performance gains vrs the rtr n pro there both deadly on the track!! :D

[mkenm]

the carb is hot, rember hot carb, no fuel will go into it, either the clutch is slipping, the engine is too lean, you have not stated how your checking engine temp, thats the drawback with a aluminum carb.. vaporlock..
Vaporlock Yes Yes that one makes sense to me. Finger over exhaust i can see fuel head for carb, but then backs up by same amount! I tried duracrap temp did not care for it. Go by feel if i can put my finger on it for a few seconds comfortably i feel i'm not far off, and there is smoke coming from exhaust.
idle=pinch fuel engine revs up and dies me think me close ???
Man if i richen any more dont think it will hardly run for first tank.
does not seem rite to me??? thanks for help tryen again!

[CRSMP5]

its not tune... what clutch ya using? a year ago with kuhn's savage his flywheel nut came loose, it got the carb so hot it stuck due to the friction of the clutch slipping.. the engine temp was around 230f when this happened too..

on my rb tm728 when i started to play with the big big blocks, it took me some time to figure out why the carb would freeze up, the slide would stick, it was also clutch shoe slippage..

my suggestion.. mugen composite shoes, .9 springs...

also what clutch do you have? is it a rtr or 3 shoe version?

[mkenm]

its not tune... what clutch ya using? a year ago with kuhn's savage his flywheel nut came loose, it got the carb so hot it stuck due to the friction of the clutch slipping.. the engine temp was around 230f when this happened too..

on my rb tm728 when i started to play with the big big blocks, it took me some time to figure out why the carb would freeze up, the slide would stick, it was also clutch shoe slippage..

my suggestion.. mugen composite shoes, .9 springs...

also what clutch do you have? is it a rtr or 3 shoe version?

I have used rtr & pro cannot remember what was going on then. Right now i'm using what came on mach26(ebay item).i did notice the engine was running faster than usaul, sounded like a high stall torque converter in a fullsize race car! Pretty sure you are right about this, slipping clutch explains delayed overheating. Thanks so much! could not find one person at LHS with answers. PS not sure why you would want it but have an extra HB26 you can have.

[CRSMP5]

just throw the hb on ebay, or there are a few posts on people who have broken cranks, they need it more then i ever would.. mine is still going strong ans is basically a back up...

yep that sounds like clutch slipping, if it came on ebay with it then that to me would mean its from a LST so there knowing how crappy those clutch shoes are is the issue..

mugen composite shoes, no need for aluminum, and the .9 springs, .9 are kinda hard to come by, but things like a savage came stock with them, they are thin wire, ace sells them in sets of 4 for around $2

[Monsterbrad]

I had the same problem with my Mach in my LST.
The shoes are crap.
Also I have heard that some people are runnin 1.0 springs and like them alot.
But CR knows what he is talkin about.
He is a Hot Bodies master :D

[CRSMP5]

yea i was melting shoes with 1.0 springs.. not melted any with the .9 ones yet..

[mkenm]

Anyone know anything about the XLB 1/7 scale buggy? Looked pretty good so i bought one today. This is getting out of hand so trying to decide take this back or sell revo & stadiums???

[CRSMP5]

LOL
if you have a lightning stadium pro it will be easy to sell... but no sorry no info on the xtm 1/7th scale..

[DNF2005]

just throw the hb on ebay, or there are a few posts on people who have broken cranks, they need it more then i ever would.. mine is still going strong ans is basically a back up...

yep that sounds like clutch slipping, if it came on ebay with it then that to me would mean its from a LST so there knowing how crappy those clutch shoes are is the issue..

mugen composite shoes, no need for aluminum, and the .9 springs, .9 are kinda hard to come by, but things like a savage came stock with them, they are thin wire, ace sells them in sets of 4 for around $2

Are we talking about the "carbon" shoes that Mugen sells or maybe the teflon?
LSP on order/fingers crossed!!!
Thanks for all your insight! (How did you ever come across an MP-5?)
lol

[mkenm]

LOL
if you have a lightning stadium pro it will be easy to sell... but no sorry no info on the xtm 1/7th scale..
I have the pro with a few of the braces you recommend,stacked drag link,HB26,wasp 28,a RTR for parts,40 series tires,would keep mach like that engine,wasp far more powerfull i was not able to drive it though,to much power for my three mo. experience,hard to start too. XTM looks good very lsp like,try to get a look if you get a chance!

[Monsterbrad]

This is the LSP forum.
Lets keep it that way.
So how many of you other guys are running .9 springs???
Hey CR is that what comes in the truck stock?
got almost a gallon on them then my engine crapped

[CRSMP5]

i beleive the pro comes with a 1.0

yea the carbon shoes..

i agree it is the LSP forum, if you goto sell it PM me, i know a few wanting one and ill give you info to go direct..

[badboy2]

idk if i miss it on this thread but what was the difference between the rr and pro ?is it just the alum arms or parts?

[xdamxincx]

idk if i miss it on this thread but what was the difference between the rr and pro ?is it just the alum arms or parts?
lots of differences.. more than people tell... go to hotboidiesonline.net look under parts support there u can go thru and it will show u what is on the RR and what is on the PRO if u look at the part numbers listings... too much to list

[mkenm]

I have a RTR & the pro,back yard bashing,racing does not matter if your goin to drive it more than 5 or 6 times get the pro much more dependable!!

[JTK37]

I'm missing something! why does it run so good not hot for two tanks, Seems like a tuning issue would show up before that??? When this happens i have tried richening(and every thing else i can think of)but it will not start at this point. What seems to be happining fuel does not get to carb even with finger over exhaust. have checked for leaks tank,exhaust,carb etc. Thanks

I had a similar problem. I ran pretty smoothly for a tank or so but as everything heated up it got worse. I found two problems. The pressure nipple on my tank was clogged with carbon deposits and it seemed to build up as the pressure built up. That took care of the fuel suddenly not reaching the carb for me. The other was a slipping clutch. After two straight tanks the heat finally built up and boiled what fuel it was getting even though the head temps were still ok.

[Monsterbrad]

The slipping clutch thing seems to be a common thing among these truggies.
All I can say is CR has ended the problem by using Mugen Composits and .9 springs.
He is runnung a hefty 28 modded engine and if these shoes last for that they should be good for any engine.
I lost clutch bearings the last time I raced and that caused the clutch bell to over heat clutches to slip and everything locked up.
Try the Composit shoes from mugen and the .9 springs.
As far as the engine getting hot try all new fuel lines and see what happens.

[CRSMP5]

PRO has
aluminum shocks that are 3.5mm shafts, aluminum capped and hard anodized
hardened diff gears
sealed (rubber) bearings
front and rear center CVDs
2 brakes front, 1 rear
diffs are filled with oil
CNC 7075 steering knuckles
3 shoe clutch
Aluminum lower arms
7075 hing pin braces (front and rear)
7075 front suspention holder
pink/red flames on the body

[ericmyson]

PRO has
aluminum shocks that are 3.5mm shafts, aluminum capped and hard anodized
hardened diff gears
sealed (rubber) bearings
front and rear center CVDs
2 brakes front, 1 rear
diffs are filled with oil
CNC 7075 steering knuckles
3 shoe clutch
Aluminum lower arms
7075 hing pin braces (front and rear)
7075 front suspention holder
pink/red flames on the body


hey cr,

a co-racer rebuilt his diffs on his lsp before he ever ran his truggy. We were trippin out that there was grease and not oil in the diffs. Made us wonder if the diff gears are the same between the pro and the rr. I looked at my diffs(i have the rr) and i looked at his(the pro) i swear they looked identical, same grease and all.

[Monsterbrad]

Well I can say that I took my diffs apart when te truck was new before i even ran it also.
There was oil in there.
I have the pro version too..

[DNF2005]

Well I can say that I took my diffs apart when te truck was new before i even ran it also.
There was oil in there.
I have the pro version too..

Mine is on order and I was thinking 10k front, 30k center, and 3k rear for the diffs.
Anyone try this setup or is it overkill? I will also be using 40 series Bow Tie tires as well.
thanks!

[CRSMP5]

the pro and rtr have different diff gears.. if they were shiny silver then it had the rtr non pro gears.. if thats the case i think id call HB and ask where your hardened gears are..

im using 3k rear, 50k center, 7k front

[ericmyson]

the pro and rtr have different diff gears.. if they were shiny silver then it had the rtr non pro gears.. if thats the case i think id call HB and ask where your hardened gears are..

im using 3k rear, 50k center, 7k front


it's very hard to get in contact with HB. My friend emailed them alot and no answer.

We strongly believe he didn't get the hardened diff gears. It looks shiny and silver. He definately has the pro, alum. arms., aluminum shock caps, and all.

How does the hardened diff gears look?

a couple of guys are awaiting for the their LSpro's to come in, so as soon as it gets here, we'll have a looksee at the diffs.
If there is grease and not oil and the gears are looking exactly like my rr gears(shiny and silver), we'll definately know HB is cutting corners or they are just making mistakes in the production department. If it's a mistake it's gonna be a huge one.

[gr8taz nitro]

well, I think I've got mixed reviews to report for the fantom fr27. It was a strong engine at the start, easy to tune and ran like a champ, that is until yesterday at the races. Ran like a top during practice, but couldn't get it to run when the 1st qual started. Would start than flame out, like it was rich on the top end. Just tore the motor down and with only 1/2 gal on it, the piston and sleeve are shot! No compression left.

I'm calling fantom tomorrow and we'll see what their service is like. Don't know if this is just bad luck on my part, or if it's a BAD engine. Anyone else ever run a fantom? Good thing I still have the stock engine still setting around, was gonna cut the crank and put it in my maxx. :D

[gr8taz nitro]

You posted that to put a top .28 in you had to shim the mount up 3mm or cut a hole in the chassis for the pullstart, when you shimmed it out, did you just double up on the motor mount adapters?

[VMach]

Mine is on order and I was thinking 10k front, 30k center, and 3k rear for the diffs.
Anyone try this setup or is it overkill? I will also be using 40 series Bow Tie tires as well.
thanks!
That would be a good place to start if you're running something more powerful than stock. The smaller tighter tracks like lighter diff oils.

[hyperstang]

That would really P.O. some people if the PRO version is not coming with hardened diffs. I am trying to order some right now, good to have.

Race on...

[gr8taz nitro]

Here's a pic of my LSP
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v636/gr8taz/stadiumpro022.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v636/gr8taz/stadiumpro023.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v636/gr8taz/stadiumpro027.jpg

[DNF2005]

Here's a pic of my LSP
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v636/gr8taz/stadiumpro022.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v636/gr8taz/stadiumpro023.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v636/gr8taz/stadiumpro027.jpg

Cool pics! The track I race on is medium size so any suggestions on a .21 with some torque. I was thinking P5 maybe? The track just is not big enough to warrant a 421B or a top of the line RB engine but I don't want a Fantom or Wasp either.

[doesgo]

We've got a Fantom 27 and it ran great when we got it (used) but didn't last long. Put a new piston/sleeve in it, it broke-in great, seemed great on the track, but like yours, it just didn't last. I just had it pinched to give it one last show before it hits the dumpster, but I'm not too optimistic about it. Seems this short life is quite common with the Fantom 27s, unfortunately.

[CRSMP5]

You posted that to put a top .28 in you had to shim the mount up 3mm or cut a hole in the chassis for the pullstart, when you shimmed it out, did you just double up on the motor mount adapters?

honestly i used something even easier to find, savage hing pin braces, a pack of 2 is 4$ and basically i cut the ends off.. the 4mm bolt fits thru the mushroom shaped head with ease then.. aka shape of the hingpin brace once the end is hacked off, you rusing the pin hole not the screw holes of the brace..

a flaw with the mount plate to do it that way, you will have to remove the threads or notch them so the bolts do not interfear, 4mm ones are hard to find, but 3mm is getting harder to find, why i used what i did.. rember you will need to find engine mount bolts that are 3-4mm longer also...

[stonesavage]

That would really P.O. some people if the PRO version is not coming with hardened diffs. I am trying to order some right now, good to have.

Race on... harden savage gears! same gears made by the same company ;)

[Keith-OH]

I put 50k in my center diff and my tires still bloom since I put the SH28 engine in the truck. Is there anything else I can do to prevent my front tires from blooming?

[thedarkness]

Youll need a new set of tires but, before glueing, fold the tire inside out, then put the foam inside to hold its shape, Next you use a strip of the clear packing tape with string in it,Go around the tire once completly and untill it overlaps its self about 3 inches, Flip the tire back over and glue them up as normal.

[Monsterbrad]

Too keep the front tires from balooning up throw some 120,000 wt oil in there.
Thats what I am running no balooning at all.
Also you can run a single strip of Duct tape around the inside of the tire also.

[CRSMP5]

actually stone savage, the gears are slightlty different, the hb hardened ones still have a cut out in the backs of the bigger diff gears for weight reduction that a savage gear lacks... but same material..

i had to put the hb blue springs on the rear keith, its a power to weight ratio, the rear is diving so much its pulling the weight from the front tires..

[ericmyson]

That would really P.O. some people if the PRO version is not coming with hardened diffs. I am trying to order some right now, good to have.

Race on...

Cuzzin,
hazone2 never have diff oil in his lsp and the diff gears was shiny and silver like mines on the rr.

hows dat one.

[Freedom]

Cuzzin,
hazone2 never have diff oil in his lsp and the diff gears was shiny and silver like mines on the rr.

hows dat one.

They are having a hard time keeping up with the demands for these trucks, it's possible they are cutting corners to sell them. I think now is a good time to check the diff gears in my Lightning Pro 2.......

[Monsterbrad]

Man I hope that I have good gears I will be pissed if I have the not hardened gears.
Thats why us guys with the pro bought the pro :mad:
I hope mine is cool.
Hey cr are the rtr gears helickle cut also ?????? my spelling is bad there!

[CRSMP5]

wrong gears.. the ring and pinion i sspiral cut, the internal ones are normal gears, pro is supposed to have hardened though

[stonesavage]

If you got the pot metal gears no big deal they are strong! kyosho uses them in there high end buggys I had no duribility issue's with em.I see a few guys runnin rear wings on ther lsp what's the difference with em?

[hyperstang]

Cuzzin,
hazone2 never have diff oil in his lsp and the diff gears was shiny and silver like mines on the rr.

hows dat one.

I am opening my bad boy up this weekend...DAMN!!!!!

[Monsterbrad]

I know where there is a RTR in the box!!!!!!!
anybody want it????????????

[Monsterbrad]

If you are interested
call me any time for more info.
814-450-6973
Brand new in box.......... :D

[xdamxincx]

i did my LSP's diffs last night for the first time and i had silicone oil and i have hardened gears...

[kcobra]

I tried 50k in the center diff of my LSP. I didn't like it. Made the truck to squirly under power for my tastes on the tight indoor track I have been running in this spring. Went back to 10k in the center and liked it much better. The tires do balloon but it is much more drivable.

[Monsterbrad]

try 120,000 wt in the center.
the tires won't balloon then.
Plus that squirely feeling will be gone

also
I know where there is a rtr for sale brand new in the box
any takers??????

[Walter T Flower Jr]

Picco .27 info.
Got mine broken in today, the engine is animal with 30% sidewinder Race , MC 59 plug, stock pipe with header cut back 1/2". Wicked bottom end good through to screaming top end. I am runnig a 15 tooth bell with stock spur and Proline Mulchers on a grass track and it is tearing the track to bits.
Walter

[Monsterbrad]

Thats cool !
Do they have a site for there engine's???????
never even thought about getting a picco.

[CRSMP5]

its just a punched out picco26.. but has a green head.. i still think the sh is best bbb deal.. bbb = big big block :D

[Monsterbrad]

Bill at Speed Zone likes that SH 28.
Says it's a screamer!
Well when i am ready to get another engine we'll see.....

[Walter T Flower Jr]

Check out the Ofna web site for info on the Picco .27 ....... Just a Green head Picco from the land of the Testa Rosa ,hmmm.

[Monsterbrad]

Well I would have to say that the only engine that would give Cr's engine a run for it's money would be the Kangaroo from novarossi.
I have heard thats the fastest engine that can be bought that is not modded.
50,000 + rpm's
thats cool for a BB!

[CRSMP5]

mb if ya wanna see a sh28 in action.. mike has one in hi ssavage.. you will have to come to the k&b track once it reopens to check it out.. IMO its the best under 200$ i know of for pure power..

[stonesavage]

I tried 50k in the center diff of my LSP. I didn't like it. Made the truck to squirly under power for my tastes on the tight indoor track I have been running in this spring. Went back to 10k in the center and liked it much better. The tires do balloon but it is much more drivable. I'm rebuilding my Ls diffs using sav hd gears and was gonna use 50 000 in the centre what's this squirly thing?

[Monsterbrad]

Just run
120,000 wt in the center
50,000 wt front
stock in the rear.
This set up works killer for my truck on all surfaces.
7000 is what I would put in the rear but the stock oil seems to be good.

[hyperstang]

I'm rebuilding my Ls diffs using sav hd gears and was gonna use 50 000 in the centre what's this squirly thing?

Stonesavage..you happen to have the part numbers for the replacement gears?

Are they a direct fit??

thanks

[stonesavage]

Stonesavage..you happen to have the part numbers for the replacement gears?

Are they a direct fit??

thanksI dunno the# but they are the same direct fit!! hot bodies and hpi are the same company.

[CRSMP5]

http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXJLH6&P=ML are teh ones you want

[DNF2005]

I am pulling my hair out trying to determine which engine to buy. I will be running a medium size track. If I buy a .21 then my track will let me run in the big block or unlimited class. A .25 or bigger means unlimited only. Your thoughts on some of my options. I would prefer a motor with good torque as opposed to top speed for my LSP.
RB WS72
NOVA P5
O.S. V-SPEC
NOVA 421B
MACH .26
SH .28
HPI .28
Also how has the back plate/rotto start mod held up on the MACH .26 and SH .28 motors. I am just a little nervous about a back plate made of plastic.
thanks!!!!

[stonesavage]

well if you race your ls with the regular monster trucks and your a decent driver it will get boring cause you'll have a big advantage!! go unlimited and race other truggys alot more competive!

[CRSMP5]

no issue with roto mod on mach..

next IMO this is a truggy, no way it should run with savages and tmaxxes and stuff.. you have a unfair advantage.. even with a rb ws7II it will kill a savvy that has a 28...

[DNF2005]

no issue with roto mod on mach..

next IMO this is a truggy, no way it should run with savages and tmaxxes and stuff.. you have a unfair advantage.. even with a rb ws7II it will kill a savvy that has a 28...


Of the motors listed which .21 do you prefer?
Also which of the .25 and up engines are good?
Recently watched a REVO with the new O.S. .18 and it lapped the field twice!
If the back plate is not an issue than the SH .28 just might make the cut! :D

[Monsterbrad]

Well cr and I like the SH 28.
I have heard lots of good about them.
Only one bad report of the rod letting go but who knows how that person was treating the engine at that point.
It all depends on what you want to spend.
I like the Mach or the Sport Werks .26....
But if you are going to spend the extra bucks go for the ws7II or a higher end engine.

[Keith-OH]

I seen a WS7II last weekend at the track. I was very impressed with it. But I was told they our $350. I have a total of $165 in my SH28. That is counting my back plate and pull start I put on it. I use my starter box most of the time. Then after it is warmed up I will use the pull start if I am not close to my starter box. I am impressed with this engine so far. I am only on tank about 10 and running it very rich and it has all kinds of power. That is with the stock exhaust. I cant wait to get my JP-1 exhaust and lean it out some.

[CRSMP5]

mach 26 or sportwerks 26
rb ws7II will need starterbox unless you get pull start mod
sh 28

[Monsterbrad]

I would say go with the Ws7II
Just cause it's a good race engine and will be dead reliable!
I had the p-5 and wish still that I had not sold it.
they are just great engines....

[performula]

Will the Lightning accept regular Monster Truck tires (TMaxx/Proline/Jumbo Maxx)?

[Monsterbrad]

yes they will.
It has standard size monster truck wheels hexes.
But there are clearance issues with some wheels and probably the huge tires.
Tires like the revo rims hit the turn buckles and the back of the rims have to be modded to fit the rear...

[CRSMP5]

wheels, i use off set ones, less issues, a non pro has more issues though, the steering knuckle is different aka silver pot metal, the tierod hits with 40 series rims unlike a pro purple one does not..

[ericmyson]

wheels, i use off set ones, less issues, a non pro has more issues though, the steering knuckle is different aka silver pot metal, the tierod hits with 40 series rims unlike a pro purple one does not..


cr,

for the purple knuckles, where do you mount the ball end,

forward hole or toward the rear hole?

thanks in advance.

[CRSMP5]

i use the rear hole.. i tried the front hole and with stock wheels the tie rod still hit..

[Monsterbrad]

Mine are ground back now.
Not and issue so far the shock ends are a bigger issue!

[ericmyson]

Cr,

Is there any substitution ball ends for replacement for the ls grooved steering ball end.

If there is, that would lift a heavy weight on my shoulders.


thank you again,

in advance.........

[lspfreek]

I just got my Lightning. Put my Sirio 27 11 port in. New Titanium gear hitec servos. 40 series tires 23.mm hubs.

IM SO EXCITED I COULD PUNCH MY MOM IN THE FACE

[Monsterbrad]

lspfreek
respect your mother you only have one :)
The tie rod ends being ground down a little will not hurt them.
Mine have been thise way for a while now with no problems.
Like I said the last post the shock ends are more of an issue!

[CRSMP5]

no substitutions i kno wof.. kinda a odd shape, nothing else has the cut out made into them.. but if you have a pro try some off set wheels or 40s and they do no thit on mine..

[lspfreek]

Im just playin. That is a line from the chapelle show. I'm a mamas boy :)

None the less I am very excited.

I am in the same delima with engines though.

I put in the sirio 27 but I have a RB WS7II that is new.

Which should I use??

[Monsterbrad]

I am not a fan of the sirio engines at all.
The RB on the other hand would not be sitting at all.
Thats one of my favorits on the market.
that and the rex p-5
well and a few others :D
MAch
SH28
p-5
rossi 28 8 port

[ericmyson]

lspfreek
respect your mother you only have one :)
The tie rod ends being ground down a little will not hurt them.
Mine have been thise way for a while now with no problems.
Like I said the last post the shock ends are more of an issue!


mb are you running aluminum arms?
if yes, a fellow racer uses ofna shock ends, you'll need a 3mm washer to go on the shock shaft before you install the ofna shock ends. What the washer does is it keeps the stock spring retainer in its place. A fellow racer has two race days, and one practice day on them.
So far so good, the ofna shock ends seems to cure his broken shock end problem.

[Monsterbrad]

Cool.
I'll keep that in mind.
Also
had the truck out today it freakin rips.
The Mach makes this thing so much fun to drive.

[Walter T Flower Jr]

I am using shock ends from my old Inferno fromthe Kyosho big pressure shocks, they are almost a direct fit, you have to shave a tiny bit from the end for clearance on the inside, I should think the Kyosho ends will be quite durable.
Walter

[samyman]

hey guys,what hop ups do you sugest for a kid on a budget? I have the proline 23mm wheels coming,and My pro rocks other than the stock tires fomeing up.but I need a big edge over a mugen truggy,with a little beter
driver.
Thanks :)

[Monsterbrad]

Just practice driving alot.
A better engine that what is in there stock even a mild one like the OS 21 rg would help out with more power.
Change your oils also.
Center you want thick like 120,000
front 50,000
rear 7-10,000 wt's
some put thinner on but I like this set up for pretty much everything.
the shocks could also use some 50wt or maybe a little thicker.

[CRSMP5]

honestly, the LSP from what ive read is better then the mugen... but unless you can drive, anything/one can beat you.. oractice with stock, get it dialed in where your consistant, and then worry about more speed..

[performula]

What's the difference between the Lightning and the Lightning GT? It looks like the wheels/tires and dual servo set-up from what I can tell.

[CRSMP5]

center diff, pipe, body... back around pg8 or so i posted the info on the gt with what i saw as a differance.. the only thing is there is no PRO version.. i have a thing for the pro versions as they have hop ups the rest of the fleet lacks..

[Monsterbrad]

Had the truck out again
this thing is so cool
I am used to my big Monster trucks and this thing is just so freakin stable.
For bashing you can drive this thing like a crazy man and it just keeps on going hardly flips.
The Mach makes it feel lighter than it really is.
This thing is just fun!

[gr8taz nitro]

Update on the saga of the blown fantom fr27 :mad:

Got in touch with fantom only to be told that there was a design flaw in the timing on the engine ports. That was why you couldn't get the engines for the longest time. They were doing a complete redesign on the crank, piston and sleeve. Said that it had cost them a fortune in warranty claims on the old design. Somehow I got an old series engine from horizon and it was just a matter of time till the engine shot craps.

On the up side they are sending me a the new style crank, piston and sleeve, and wrist pin and clips to rebuild it. Can't get a connecting rod right now cause they're out of em. Shouldn't be a problem since I'm only 1/2 gal into the motor. Here's how you tell which engine you got, if it's black coated on the block all the way around and it comes with a standard headbutton, you got the old one, if it has machining around the sides of the block near the front bearing and a turbo headbutton you got a new one.

We'll see what happens when I get the parts and get it rebuilt.

[doesgo]

I've got an old one (no silver/machined look on the side at all except for the FR27 text).

What's the best way to go about getting these replacement parts? Do I have to complain? Do they make you give proof of purchase? I got mine second-hand, but it died quickly, we put in a new piston/sleeve, and it died again after a half-gallon. I just had it pinched, but I'm not too optimistic about it running well for very long.

[performula]

Is the wheelbase of this truck the same as the LST (14.2 inch)? If so that is pretty large - I saw on a site that the LS/LSP has a 14.5 inch wheelbase.

[gr8taz nitro]

What's the best way to go about getting these replacement parts? Do I have to complain? Do they make you give proof of purchase? I got mine second-hand, but it died quickly, we put in a new piston/sleeve, and it died again after a half-gallon. I just had it pinched, but I'm not too optimistic about it running well for very long.

I'm not sure if you can get anything warrantied because the motor is second hand. I do know that the said the crankshaft is different and I'm assuming the piston and sleeve is different, but I won't know how there different until I get it and can do some comparisons. I know that they will do a factory rebuild for around $80, but that doesn't include a new crank or bearings.

The wheelbase on a LSP from hub to hub is 15 inches.

[doesgo]

That sucks! Thanks for the info, though.

[performula]

The wheelbase on a LSP from hub to hub is 15 inches.

So, than it is longer from front to rear?

[Monsterbrad]

I just checked.
The LST measures about 14
the LSP is 14.5 or maybe more.
Just eye balling it with a tape measure.
This truck handles like nothing else.
I had it out today with Revo wheels on it that make it super narrow and never flipped it once.
Just Cool :D

[stonesavage]

I'm not sure if you can get anything warrantied because the motor is second hand. I do know that the said the crankshaft is different and I'm assuming the piston and sleeve is different, but I won't know how there different until I get it and can do some comparisons. I know that they will do a factory rebuild for around $80, but that doesn't include a new crank or bearings.

The wheelbase on a LSP from hub to hub is 15 inches. doesgo go to your LHS get him to print out a receipt! ;) these fantoms are the same as the wasp 28! I'm shure there not made by picco! not that picco make's great engines but I have heard lot's of negative comments bout the wasp 28!

[doesgo]

The Wasp 28 is made by Team Infinity, I believe. Piccos are generally pretty darn god engines.

I'll give that a shot with the LHS. Thanks!

[stonesavage]

I know fur shure that the diablo 28(peak racing) fhantom 27(fhm)rdl28(team infinidy)wasp 28(team orion) are all the same!! I dunno bout team infindy being the main manufacture! Anybody know who make's the original 28 here??

[CRSMP5]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v406/CRSMP5/lsp/mikeslsp/mike001.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v406/CRSMP5/lsp/mikeslsp/mike002.jpg

will get good outdoor photo tomarrow and will auto update.. LOL..

goal to this.. my pit person spent more then i did on a new eb mods tops 28 8 port.. goal to the body, he has no clue to what i did to it, what the body would look like if the engine and tank exploded..

[badboy2]

anyone selling their pro yet?

[performula]

I just checked.
The LST measures about 14
the LSP is 14.5 or maybe more.
Just eye balling it with a tape measure.
This truck handles like nothing else.
I had it out today with Revo wheels on it that make it super narrow and never flipped it once.
Just Cool :D

Thanks. I am stuck between a 1/8 buggy and an MT; I figure this truck is the best of both worlds. The only downside is that not all of the MT wheels/tires fit this truck.

[CRSMP5]

well 99% of all the mt wheels and tires will fit.. revo ones do not fit tmaxxes.. teh bigger question is WHICH wheels are a good choice that will hold up..

[performula]

OK, well...that's better. I want to get either this, Mayhem, or LST to fool around with. It was down to the SportWerks and Losi, then I thought of this bad boy again, both worlds in one.

[Monsterbrad]

RPM wheels with the wide maxx seem to be the best I think CR will agree for the most part.
I have a set of titans with new Zombie's on them :D
they are awesome looking!
I have fitted revo wheels on mine
SUT wheels and tires for bashing a little and engine break in.
Most will fit ok!
I would say stay away from the LST if you are going to bash hard it will just not hold up.
MGT is a really great choice for an all out basher have one and it will take a beating like a savage will.
But if you don't want alot of ground clearance and just want a good yard basher the LSP will do it with no problems.
It's just hard for me to bash my race truck......
thats all

[DNF2005]

My Lsp Pro Is Gonna Ship Tomorrow From Ultimate Hobbies. I Have A Brand New Novarossi P5 On The Shelf! I Would Just Like To Thank All Who Have Contributed To This Thread! I Have Gained Alot Of Insight With Reguards To How I Want To Set The Truck Up.
Thanks Again!!! :d

[stonesavage]

Ultimate stock status say pro's on backorder!! they been out of stock for awile!! they don't even have any rtr's left!The only place that I know has the rtr is stormer! :rolleyes:

[CRSMP5]

hb sent out parts the other day..... due to movin in with hpi they shipped the stock they just got

[Monsterbrad]

These things are crazy popular!

[ericmyson]

I got this cool site form Chad Bradley on the Mugen Mbx5 forum.

I dont know why i didn't post it earlier sorry bout that.

anyways, this site saved me a couple of times before race day when i'm wrenching late at nite and the hobby shops are all closed.

Enjoy:

http://www.gesilicones.com/gesilwizards/bl...ml?SMSESSION=NO (http://www.gesilicones.com/gesilwizards/blending/fluid2.html?SMSESSION=NO)

[mkenm]

anyone selling their pro yet?

What are you willing to pay?

[stonesavage]

What are you willing to pay?$793.00 is the cost go to ebay! p.s pro's will be here in mid may but only a small shipment ;)

[CRSMP5]

50 shipped in april, 100 in may..

[mkenm]

$793.00 is the cost go to ebay! p.s pro's will be here in mid may but only a small shipment ;)793.00 is the cost???

[stonesavage]

793.00 is the cost???+shipping from the uk so 10lbs=$90us $883 total! :eek: I know it's nut's but there are people who will pay! he said he has sold a few!p.s there are a few pro's out there you just have to do a search try www.hotbodiesforums.com total cost for a pro under $700us

[stonesavage]

stormerhobbies has the ls in stock only 2 left!! the only big diff is the alloy front suspention holder and alloy knuckles! the ls is just as strong + it's a bit lighter ;)

[CRSMP5]

i know where alot of non pro ones are..

other differances..
diff gears, rubber sealed bearings, 3 shoe clutch, size of shock shafts and aluminum upper caps, added brake, the 7075 suspention holders and knuckles.. there are reasons why people are waitig for the pro.. the front knuclkles and one set of hingpin braces make up for the price differance in 3 parts... not counting all the others..

[stonesavage]

I agree cr there are more benifit's from buying a pro but for $399us you can't go wrong! even the hb team driver's were racing the rtr in tailand with no breakage reported! 5 parts for $150 even cheaper go second hand(ebay or online r/c site) 3 shoe flywheel/shoes some storm/ofna/hb/kyo pro knuckes and 7075 brace(hbPRO BUGGY) shock caps is all the pro part's needed for xtream racing!! of course engine and servo swap but that's a given!You can build yourself a pro (minus)alloyarms n 3.5shafts for $150 +$399= $550total +the satifaction of building your own pro ;) and no waiting!!

[gr8taz nitro]

The RD at one of the local tracks won't let truggy's run on the track with anything but the 1/8 buggies. I couldn't see where the problem was, none of the racer's minded and the one revo running didn't give anything up as far as top speed, he was actually faster on the back straight, was running a new os .18

Don't think I'll ever be going back to that track...... just cause I lapped the field four times :D they don't wanna let me play! :confused:

[stonesavage]

ask this rd if you can run a ofna monster pirate or xtm mammoth!! there both truggy's n the MP has been racing( with out complaint) since 2000!!

[CRSMP5]

lapped the field 4x.. LOL.. thats great... how did it fair against the buggies though?

[Monsterbrad]

From the small track that i Race at I can see the buggies being faster cause they can turn just a little better and they don't have the big tires to deal with.
Komodos will make that better but this things size kinda works against it I think.
Still the Best Racer in my mind though for the monster class.
1/8 scale buggies are not anywhere close to a truggy class in my mind.

[CRSMP5]

ive seen too many track records broken with the truggy... which means they killing 1/8th scale mb..

[gr8taz nitro]

lapped the field 4x.. LOL.. thats great... how did it fair against the buggies though?

It actually does better against the buggies, I didn't race against them at the track that banned my truggy, but at the other local track I play on, which is really rough in sections, it just floats right on through where the buggies have to slow down or flip. I normally run better lap times with my LSP on that track.

[rc10bob]

Hi guys, I know this question most have been answered or asked a lot, but I really didn't want to read 60 pages. I ordered LSP from my hobby shop. I was wondering he said it would be a while before it would come in. Is there anything thing I should put on it besides an engine any hop ups that it really needs or parts that I should change. Appreciate any help.

[CRSMP5]

http://www.hotbodiesforum.com/ take a look at the index in the stadium section there.. i have it all mapped out.. :D

[Monsterbrad]

Well just off the top of my head!
Change the diff oils
I like
120,000 wt center
50 front
stock rear
Chassis braces
wheels and tires
air cleaner if you want (motor saver)
I am sure I am missing alot!

[stonesavage]

www.hotbodiesforums.com stadium sec

[CRSMP5]

hey mb you seen the new HPI hi pro air filter? like 10$ bigger then motorsaver, and its a copy of a os filter.. replacement filters are 6$ and come with 2 inner and outer foams.. im switching to them this year......

[rc10bob]

Monsterbrad, there's that much wrong with the truck, from what I hear I thought I was buying a good truck, is it be course its two new, and things have to be changed I just order it, anyway thanks for the comeback.

[doesgo]

MB's is a pretty small list of things to do to make it race-worthy! You ARE buying a good truck, but no truck is perfect for everyone right out of the box. You can race it stock, MB's just suggesting some things he's found to be helpful. Wheels, tires, and diff oil will probably need to be changed to suit your track and driving style no matter what vehicle you buy. That's a given.

[Monsterbrad]

I should say that I ran the truck completely stock for about a gallon.
Only added the chassis braces in that amount of time.
Changed the engine over to the Mach but I am having problems with the clutch but that is fixable with Mugen shoes and .9 springs just lazy and have not raced in a month.
Has anybody tried the Aluminum Mugen shoes???????
I have been told they are awesome!

[doesgo]

I've got the Mugen aluminum shoes on my LST, SUT, and I think one other vehicle (can't remember which, though). Yeah, they're great! I've got 1.1 springs on the LST (that's all I had at the time) and 1.0 on the SUT, both work great.

[stonesavage]

I melted my mugens lasted bout 10 tanks but i was using 1.0 springs sinced switched to mugen composite ! m.b check out the new sut se rtr c/w new longer chassis (fironi style h pins)pro 4mm towers/pro draglink/roto start/new front shocks(med)ect...

[DANNY WENZEL]

Hi you guys I have a LSP and would like to put a larger fuel tank in my truck does any one know a bigger tank that will fit ........ :confused:....

[CRSMP5]

http://www.hotbodiesforum.com/

stadium section ofna 145cc tank

[Monsterbrad]

I will be pissed if I melt another set of aluminum shoes

[stonesavage]

http://www.modelcar.pt/GSNews.htm

[Monsterbrad]

Would like to get a closer look.
I was just not pleased with the SUT.
It was a great truck but there were little things.
THe LSP here is just a little better!

[DANNY WENZEL]

CRSMP5- Thanks Alot ......................................... :D

[CRSMP5]

your welcome.. kinda hate to post link like that.. but figured it would be better for you to see a few different ideas and ways..

[Monsterbrad]

its ok cr
Well can't take it anymore
takin the truck out for a jam session tonight with the LST.
Lets see how it handles some good old bashing!

[mkenm]

Looking for a pro?
I have one for sale, Mach 26 and a few other upgrades. :o
Not sure what to ask for it.

millmi5@cs.com :confused: