Hot Bodies Lightning Stadium (PRO/RTR)

[CRSMP5]

fly.. i know what ya mean.. plastic arms bend them real good.. over on the otherforum this topic just came up as a discussion and there are people who disbeleived of such things happening.. but it does.. my son bent one so good it would stop rotation of the wheel when it hit the lower arm or swaybar..

[Jackyl]

I saw a pic that a guy posted "can't find it now" But he showed the front arm bending upwards over 1/2" ! it was crazy, and he said on a hot day racing he can get it to flex even more!! I'd run the aluminum arms. the cvd's are not cheap!

[CRSMP5]

http://www.hotbodiesforum.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=79&hl=rubber+arms
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v488/sutman/picture137.jpg

[Jackyl]

I should have know that is where it was :D thanks man!!

Now that just proves what I was saying:D and before anyone asks those are hyper 7 c-hubs, sutman stated that the 17 degree c-hubs fit quite well :D

[CRSMP5]

i saw a set of those in person.. they limit steerign very very badly.. i would not use them except in dire need..

[Monsterbrad]

I will stick to the aluminum arms!
Just make sure that you keep the area where the arm rides in the holders by the diff cases lubed with WD-40 or something to keep them from getting torn up.

[CRSMP5]

mb you should look up white lightning bike chain lube.. wd40 attracts dirt

[Monsterbrad]

I use teflon stuff
Tri Flow
it works great

[FLYBOY7]

fyi.... when i bent my front CVD drive shafts, i replaced them with ones off the Losi LST... the LST shafts are slightly thicker, and chromed, and cost about 12 bucks a pair (just for the bone part)... also, the Losi shafts are very easy to find at most hobby shops....

T.

[CRSMP5]

what do you think the boy is bending on his truggy conversion.. LOL.. hb ones are brittle and would snap in the middle..

[Monsterbrad]

I have seen the rear dog bones twist !
Jeff's were like this last week and kept popping out .
Junk steel

[CRSMP5]

i have CVDs all the way round on mine.. LOL..

[Monsterbrad]

Mine is good
:D

[nitrohouse]

Is anyone using the KingHeadz aftermarket parts on there trucks?

I am looking for some feedback...Good, bad, or no difference...

[tmaxxster4375]

I have the front hinge pin brace, frt chassis brace, st. ackerman, and the plate that connects the radio tray and box. The stuff is top notch and looks awesome, I will be getting more of kingheadz stuff for mine.

[Jackyl]

The kindheadz stuff is beefy! But with beef comes weight. So depends on the kind of driver you are. Do you need that extra beef for when you smash into that last hairpin at full tilt? Otherwise save your money "kingheadz isn't cheap!!" and just well learn to drive :D

But if you want the beef for some bashing then all means headz it up! There are a few things that kingheadz makes that would be good on a racer. like the ankerman and that's about it. ok sorry not a few, just one :cool:

[gotspeed_2000]

I also run most of the King Headz parts and they are good quality stuff. They do add a bit of weight, but the added strength is well worth it.

[Monsterbrad]

Where are you guys getting the king headz stuff at?

[tmaxxster4375]

I got it right from www.kingheadz.com but amain hobbies has it alittle cheaper.

[CRSMP5]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v406/CRSMP5/lsp/amr_project_v2/trash/almost%20done/trash001.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v406/CRSMP5/lsp/amr_project_v2/trash/almost%20done/trash002.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v406/CRSMP5/lsp/amr_project_v2/trash/almost%20done/trash003.jpg

my short wheel base LSP w 2-speed.. :D

[hyperstang]

That is SSAAAAWWEEEEEEEEEEEEEETTTT!!!!

[Jackyl]

crs, I think the paint is getting to your head or something :D A garbage truck?

[vbgagnon]

I think that car needs a wax job. Oh nice trash collector!

[Monsterbrad]

That is a bit Chris Like!!!!
Sweet
Nice job

[CRSMP5]

vb.. if you know what was invested in that car.. you would relize the trash collecter costed me more.. LOL.. have close to 200$ in building it from crap i had sitting around except the chassis (19$ ebay), front/rear diffs (55 each complete w/hingpin braces including aluminum front one)/bumpers (6)/anti bend rods (17), bearing kit (26), then little crap like hingpins and such..

im looking for a b3 wagon shell for 500ish thats 1 color and never been wrecked (this ones been wrecked at min 3 times) to put the suspention/engine from it into.. LOL.. inital cost of that car.. 300.. cost before i started rebuildig it +900 sold lots of crap from it that id never use.. have about 200 of my $ tied up in it.. been to denver 3x and all over since i put it together.. LOL.. just trunk not big enough.. LOL..

[Jackyl]

You GO GIRL :D J/K

You know what you need for that body crs? huh, do ya do ya :D You need to find a little character of oscar the grouch and put it on that body, or maybe a sticker and put it in the drivers window :D

mmmm oscar you need, body not complete without him mmmmm :p

[Monsterbrad]

I have to say thay CR comes up with some interesting ****. LOL
:D
This is the best race truggy ever

[CRSMP5]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v406/CRSMP5/bad.jpg
i think it was lastmonth, maybe the month before.. they did do that theme in RC driver which is how i found out abt the body..

[CRSMP5]

what happened to everyone??

well i painted my starterbox.. took a bit of thinking, wanted to do this to the garbage truck, but needed to figure out the method, so i can reverse it for lexan..

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v406/CRSMP5/lsp/box/box007.jpg

alot of time in it.. th esteps are on the other forums i use in the paint sections.. it was actually pretty simple.. the trick is color selection and order..

[Jackyl]

http://acidkiss.8con.net/tt/attach/0410/050410031704316383/839107.png
This is all that starer box needs man :D

[badboy2]

crmp what was the part number for that starter box again?

[CRSMP5]

no idea.. its something i bought used 2 years ago and use for the first time a little over a month ago.. LOL... i painted it, originally its just black, made by ofna..

[Monsterbrad]

cr you have 2 much time on your hands
but it is cool :D

[CRSMP5]

took it to crack house today.. now im painting a heli nose section up.. LOL.. ill get some final pics of it when done.. tryign a few other things to see if i can make it even more drematic.. and its free for me to practice.. LOL..

[Monsterbrad]

Hey cr
I need some stock front c hubs for my stadium!
Let me know if you have some.

[CRSMP5]

call browns..

[Monsterbrad]

will do
the aluminum set up that came off the ebay truck that I bought does not seem to work the same as the stockers and it has the same angle and all that.
I will call them as soon as I get a new job and can get some new stuff.

[CRSMP5]

SWB one is finally complete.. amain order showed today :D



http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v406/CRSMP5/lsp/amr_project_v2/complete/swb001.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v406/CRSMP5/lsp/amr_project_v2/complete/swb002.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v406/CRSMP5/lsp/amr_project_v2/complete/swb004.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v406/CRSMP5/lsp/amr_project_v2/complete/swb005.jpg

yes its got a ofna 2 speed in it
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v406/CRSMP5/lsp/amr_project_v2/complete/swb003.jpg

[Monsterbrad]

Is it fast????

[CRSMP5]

would be if i put my 3 port in it.. LOL.. but it hangs with mikes eb modded 28 8 port might be a little slower getting to top side.. but passes it in the end.. LOL.. but hyper 21 race vs eb modded 28 8 port we are speakign of a 250$ price differance.. LOL.. its enough to shame him.. its also more then enough for the boy, but for me i have my 3 port i can drop in.. till i buy a p&s for my k4.6

[Monsterbrad]

I still can't get over this K 4.6 engine!!!!!
It runs like a champ :D
even with smoked clutch shoes and one hanging up all the time
ha ha

[CRSMP5]

http://www.hotbodiesonline.net/stadium_pro_r/pro_r.jpg
66200 1/8 Scale Lightning Stadium Pro-R

Kit includes:
• Pre-assembled Chassis
• Long Wheelbase Main Chassis (7075-T6)
• Aluminum Rear Chassis Brace Mount
• F/R Chassis Braces
• Carbon Fiber Radio Tray
• Carbon Fiber Center Brace
• Spiral Bevel Gears (43T/10T)
• 50T Center Gear
• 4mm F/R Shock Towers (7075-T6)
• Front CVA Joints
• Aluminum Long Suspension Arms
• F/R Long Shocks 3.5mm Shafts
• Includes 3 types Shock Springs (S,M,H)
• Full Rubber Sealed Bearing
• Hardened Steel Differential Gear
• 3pc. Racing Clutch
• F/R Center CVA Joints
• F/R Aluminum CNC Suspension Holder
• Aluminum CNC Steering Knuckles
• Triple Disc Brake System
• Low Profile Stadium Truck Body (clear)
• Racing Wheels & Tires
• F/R Sway Bars

Items Needed:
• 2ch Radio Control System
• Battery (AA) X 12
• 21 Class Rear Exhaust Engine
• Glow Fuel
• Fuel Bottle
• Glow Plug Igniter
• Engine Starter
• Cross Wrench
• Body Paint Tools

http://www.hotbodiesonline.net/lightstad_spiralcut.jpg
Spiral cut dif gears provide extra durability and smooth action.

http://www.hotbodiesonline.net/stadium_pro_r/arm.jpg
Super long, heavy duty aluminum suspension arms

http://www.hotbodiesonline.net/stadium_pro_r/blocks.jpg
Billet pivot-blocks are both lightweight and durable

http://www.hotbodiesonline.net/stadium_pro_r/deck.jpg
Carbon fiber servo and brake decks are incredibly lightweight

http://www.hotbodiesonline.net/stadium_pro_r/knuckle.jpg
Billet Steering Knuckles

http://www.hotbodiesonline.net/stadium_pro_r/motor_mount.jpg
Billet Motor Mounts with cooling fins

http://www.hotbodiesonline.net/stadium_pro_r/pivot_block.jpg
The heavy duty pivot blocks come with hinge-pin set screws

http://www.hotbodiesonline.net/stadium_pro_r/springs.jpg
Three sets of spring rates are included for fine tuning on any surface

http://www.hotbodiesonline.net/stadium_pro_r/tire.jpg
The ultra soft compound "Cross-Lug" tire is included

http://www.hotbodiesonline.net/stadium_pro_r/wing.jpg
High downforce wing adds high speed stability, on land and in the air

[Monsterbrad]

I will have one as soon as I get the money!
I have somthing in mind so I probably will have one 3 of these trucks eventually.
But that is sweet!
thanks for all the pics CR :)

[CRSMP5]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v406/CRSMP5/lsp/mount.jpg
incase you missed it.. ALUMINUM ill order mine in nov..thats the soonest ill have funds..

[Monsterbrad]

This will be my next major purchase!
I can say that!
Have plans going on in my head already for next racing season and the up comming winter season at Ryans track.
This is going to be fun!

[CRSMP5]

voodoo has big barn in back yard that idea of putting track in has surfaced.. so i may be runnign this winter too..

[Monsterbrad]

Ryan will be runnig again too Chris
Not sure if you will be interested I know last year you got pissed.
I was thinking about hitting CRCRC in Columbus this year too a couple times on a friday night.
That would be fun.
Smashed the LSP yesterday for the first time during practice.
Took the left front out including the shock and broke the hing pin retainer in half.
Then ran my partners back up truck and blew the rear diff outa that.
OH well

[CRSMP5]

but ya got to see the swb lsp halin garbage.. LOL..

[Keith-OH]

Monsterbrad: I also plan on going to CRCRC this winter. I have been saving my vacation days so I can take Fridays off work to go.

Keith

[Monsterbrad]

I just want to hit some different tracks once the points are over at K&B and crcrc is on the list of places to go a few times.
I have been there a bunch of times but have never raced there.
It would be cool to get a bunch of people to go!

[CRSMP5]

i cannot pull fri off.. so ill never hit crcrc..

[Monsterbrad]

Fixed my broken up front end
Put Ofna 9.5 shocks on the front of the truggy.
THey are threaded too
Everything else was nothing just had to straighten out one of the hinge pins.
Back in business
All I can say is everything in the truck is taking a beating with all this racing.

[CRSMP5]

brad.. look at www.hpiracing.com/hellfire im wondering how this will do against stadiums

[Monsterbrad]

Looks cool
But all HPI stuff looks great!
We'll have to see when the specs come out too.
Has the 28 in it but it looks a little short.
The stadium's length is what makes it handle great.
Plus the stadium was the first and only actuall truggy and was not based off a buggy.
I don't know what to think about that new truggy :confused:

[madforRC]

Hello guys I have the lightening GT. I live in england so we dont have the terrain most of you have on your door step. I would like to know your feed back on different engines which you have used and have found to be easy to tune as I feel the standard engine is ok but I am now after somthing a little more reliable and faster.Another bummer is that I have one part which is broken and its stopping me from running and I cant find it in any of the online shops the part is the head button its the part that the glowplug is screwed into.

[CRSMP5]

ofna force 26 headbutton will fit..

http://www.hotbodiesforum.com/ has alot of feedback on the engines..

[CRSMP5]

http://www.novarcproducts.com/headbuttons.html

the force 26 one they have!!! ;)

only place online i could find one at.. also IMO the nova coolign heads are the best on teh market.. so you can even buy one of them if you want to go with it..

[Monsterbrad]

I like the Mach and the K 4.6 for rtr engine's so far!
I have them both right now and they work very well.
If you are looking for another engine that is my 2 choices that are fairley cheap.
THe other option that I would consider but is way more expensive is the 528x Novarossi!
That engine from what I have heard is rippin for the truggy.
Of course there are many other engine's that work well too but this truck /truggy needs torque to make it feel quick.
Good luck with your engine choice
today's market makes it fun :)

[badboy2]

anyone had problems leaning out on last quarter tank?mine did it for like 5 tanks ..any solutions to this problem?

[CRSMP5]

never had a issue with my buggy or lsp.. same tank..

[Monsterbrad]

I had that issue with my 2 savages that I had but not the LSP.
Check your vent tube and fuel lines
one mught have a hole in it
or the tank could be cracked somewhere

[vbgagnon]

I've been having that problem as well. Haven't had time to mess with it yet.

[CRSMP5]

odd.. what do you think the issue is?? i know.. what fuel filter are you guys using?? ive seen too many seep air at the removable section this summer..

[Monsterbrad]

I have not had any problems with this truggy and the leaning problem just the savage's that I have had.
I have seen the bigger fuel filters leak also cause I had one off my original LST that leaked but that sometimes can be fixed by tightening the filter up as tight as you can get it.
Also what are the stock front hub carriers degree???
22 or 17
I think 22 but I can't remember

[CRSMP5]

17* 22* hb ones no fit unless you use buggy upper arms, and will turn worse..

[Monsterbrad]

I was on amain looking at the truggy stuff they are the factory ones that you can get either 17 or 22 degree.
I think the 22 degree ones are the stock ones.
Hey CR I have a set of buggy ones that are brand new you interested in them at all?
maybe a trade for some truggy ones??

[CRSMP5]

NO 17* are stock.. 22* are NOT stock stadium.. they are v2 buggy ones..

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v406/CRSMP5/buggymods/chub/chubmod001.jpg
those are 17* ones i was moddign to use on my v2 buggy that comes with 22* ones stock.. thats HOW they are different.. 22* will not fit the stadium unless you put v2 buggy upper arms on it..

I DO NOT USE 22* c hubs.. they turn like crap

[carcass227]

sorry

[Monsterbrad]

I have buggy ones
you interested?

[CRSMP5]

not if they are 22* ones.. aka photo to the right ones.. im using 17* ones on everything i run as they turn better.. ive got th eoriginal 22* ones in my pit box..

you going to k&b sat?? ive been painting up a new buggy body.. :D and you know me and my paint jobs.. LOL.. made for the dark.. LOL..

[vbgagnon]

I'm using a racers edge filter. I'll check and see if its as tight as it could be.

[CRSMP5]

remove the filter with a piece of clear fuel tubing.. watch for air..see if ti solves the issue..

[Monsterbrad]

or just take the filter out and try that
that is what I had to do to solve the air bubble problem I was having.
I threw that filter out and got a new one and it's cool now
Cr I probably will not be making that night race
I am not sure what degree they are
next time I see you we can check them out but they are for the buggy and I don't own one and you do :)

[CRSMP5]

brad its simple.. the stadium and v1 buggy use same ones.. the v2 buggy does not have the ears on top for the upper arm.. LOL.. they bolt directly into the knuckle on them..

you should see my buggy body for sat night.. LOL.. your missing another CRS original WTH paint job..
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v406/CRSMP5/bodies/pro2/glow/bod7001.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v406/CRSMP5/bodies/pro2/glow/bod7002.jpg
and i built a light kit for inside it too.. LOL..

[Monsterbrad]

sweet
have to miss it
riding the wheeler
kinda hope it does not get rained out but saturday looks like a wash out.
Might spend the weekend fixing things and rebuilding my smashed LST after a collision at high speed with another LST.
Oh well
have fun at that night race.

[CRSMP5]

you should have come out brad.. it was sweet.. me still working off my boozin..

at 2am 2 of the people bet each other 20$ on who could be the 1st to finish a 5 lap race with no lights and no turnmarshels.. it only took 45min.. LOL.. after teh 1st lap they atarted followign the buggies aroudn the track walkign behind them!! all i can say is drunks.. LOL.

[justinspankey]

I need an opinion about what to chose getting an LSP or waiting a bit and getting the new lightning stadium PRO-R.
Justin Clarke

[CRSMP5]

i say hold out for the pro-r unless your in dire need now.. race season is about over for most of us..

[Monsterbrad]

I would say the same
Hold out and wait for the pro r
Just worry about what engine to get for now.
I hope to be getting the new pro r myself :D

[gr8taz nitro]

Won 3rd place in the MO state nitro series on Sunday!! :cool:
Trusty stadium pro got me through the four race series and the finals without a broken part except for the twice blown fantom fr27. Top three finishers were all running LSP's. The kyosho conversions and the mugen conversions didn't stand a chance LOL. :D

[Monsterbrad]

Congrats!!!!!
that's cause like you said
CONVERSIONS
this is the only truggy out there.

[CRSMP5]

i agree..

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b222/rnucell/lspv2p.jpg

:D you know where to look for more info.. (http://www.hotbodiesforum.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=1153) LOL..

[Monsterbrad]

I am going to say what I told cr earlier today
that is cool but I have to say that millling material out of the chassis weakens it in my mind no matter what anybody says.
But it does cut weight!

[Ball Racing]

Only truggy?

[CRSMP5]

well its the 1st real truggy.. gs storm sut i still do not consider a true truggy..

buggy suspention with wheel exensions to me is a converted buggy.. the jammin which i have not seen yet, is supposed to be a true truggy, the sportwerks is well looks like a toy.. sorry just have to say that, but it does use long arms not extensions, im waiting for more info on the new kyosho one to decide

[Monsterbrad]

Most of these truggy's except the LSP are converted buggies.
I am just tellin it how it is.
Nobody has come up with anything like the HOT BODIES LSP with out takin the foundation of a buggy first.
we'll see what the future brings for competition!

[Ball Racing]

Well I consider that a 1/8th Stadium Truck.
If it is not a buggy combination , it's just that,, a purpose built truck.....

[Monsterbrad]

I guess that's a good way to put it
1/8 scale stadium 4wd truck
I like the RACE TRUCK
that's what I call it when people ask me what I race
then I tell them the Hot Bodies LSP and they usually know what I am talkin about.
This thing is very popular which is cool

[CRSMP5]

http://www.hotbodiesonline.net/stadium10/stadium10.jpg
http://www.hotbodiesonline.net/stadium10/specs.jpg
66501 1/10 Lightning Stadium10

Lightning Stadium 10 Features:
• Pre-assembled Chassis
• Shaft Drive 4wd System
• 3mm Aluminum Main Chassis(6061-T6)
• Low Profile Aluminum Radio Tray
• Disc Brake System
• 2.5 Power Factory Engine With Jump Start
• Composite Long Suspension Arms
• Front & Rear Oil-filled Long Shocks
• 75cc Fuel Tank
• Aluminum Tuned Pipe
• 54T Spur Gear With Slipper Clutch
• Full Ball Bearing
• Front& Rear 4 Bevel Differential Gear
• 2pc. Racing Clutch
• Low Profile Stadium Truck Body
(pre-printed and trimmed)
• Impact Absorbing Front & Rear Bumper
• Racing Wheels & Tires
• Front & Rear Sway Bars
• Radio & Radio Gear

Items Needed:
• 20% Nitro Car Glow Fuel
• Fuel Bottle
• Glow Plug Igniter
• Glow Plug Wrench
• Battery (aa) X 12
• Battery (7.2volt)
• Battery Charger

http://www.hotbodiesonline.net/stadium10/chassis.jpg
The chassis layout is modeled after the tough 1/8 scale Lightning Stadium and utilizes the a lot of the same features that make the Lightning series so successful

http://www.hotbodiesonline.net/stadium10/engine.jpg
The powerful, Power Factory 2.5 engine comes standard

http://www.hotbodiesonline.net/stadium10/brakes.jpg
Heavy duty 1/8 scale style braking system

http://www.hotbodiesonline.net/stadium10/front_end.jpg
Fine tuning is a snap with our ride height adjuster clips

http://www.hotbodiesonline.net/stadium10/front_brace.jpg
1/8 scale style front chassis brace

http://www.hotbodiesonline.net/stadium10/tire.jpg
High grip racing tires

http://www.hotbodiesonline.net/stadium10/battery.jpg
Low-profile battery box.

http://www.hotbodiesonline.net/stadium10/comp.jpg

[Monsterbrad]

Oh my !

[rc10bob]

Hi Guys, I have a two part question, in the pass i have asked questions about what engine to run in my MGT and the help was good. First question,i want to buy LSP or LSP-R is there a big difference between them i am using them for dirt oval racing. Which one. Second Question, Is there a good web site that carries aftermarket parts for lightning pro. appreciate any help. Thank you

[CRSMP5]

if you have a engine/electronics the pro-r is the only way to go..

aftermarket parts..
vertigo
kingheadz
racers edge
bce racing
advantage

http://www.hotbodiesforum.com/

now if you buy a pro-r.. only hop ups i would possibly think of... a hb lightning buggy pro cnc front anti bend rod, vertigos cf rear brace, top placte for the center diff and front brace, or the king headz front anti bend rod... thats the only thing it lacks.. just have to decide on which way you wanna do it... i have the vertigo stuff on mine.. as it ties front to rear vs all the others..

[rc10bob]

Hi Crsmp5, thanks for the comeback. I do dirt oval racing right now I am running MGT with wasp 26 before that I was running phantom 27 the two engines had worked done to them. I could only stay with the other trucks I couldn't pull away from them I am usually on the same lap. But I just can't pull away. That's why I wanted information hot body Pro or por-r I am thinking of go with Nova Rosie XR 28 or sirio hoping that these engines have power to pull away from the other trucks so thank you for getting back it helps.

[CRSMP5]

what ive used..

the rb tm728
tops 28 3 port
tops 28 8 port..

i hated the 8 port the most.. unreliable vs the other 2, can fit 15t cb on it, its got more then enough power that ive seen to be no issue. th etrick with the 3 and 5 ports are a good pipe.. it has to flow so it revs.. i put a duratrax pipe on mine that i had sitting and forgot i even owned, and its so far the best pipe ive used on them.. makes them rev like my ws7II..

[Monsterbrad]

I have the HPI 4.6 engine in my truggy and like it very much.
The only thing is it needs the nova race products cooling head.
I raced it all season and it still has over 100 lbs of compression.
Nice power too
not to much just right for the amount of punch
but then again
I like alot of power and more would be nice :)

[Keith-OH]

Monsterbrad: Where can I pick up a compression guage at?

Thanks,

Keith

[Ball Racing]

Hobbico has one.

[Monsterbrad]

remember when these engine's are hot the reading is different.
I have not seen the hobbico one I use a automotive one that is my buds with a fitting on it.
But I would like to get one that threads into the glow plug hole.
if hobbico has it that means that tower will have it.

[Keith-OH]

http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXL388&P=7

[Monsterbrad]

I would rather have one that measures in lbs instead of PSI
oh well

[Ball Racing]

PSI =pounds per square inch.
What kind of pounds(lbs) does yours read Brad?

[CRSMP5]

brad ya goign to k&b sunday??

i got my zombies today.. :D well sort of..

[Monsterbrad]

PSI =pounds per square inch.
What kind of pounds(lbs) does yours read Brad?
the one I saw only goes to 60 psi
that is no good cause these engines read more then that over 100 psi lbs
whatever :cool:

[SavageCanuck]

CRS long time no see since your savageCentral days.Good to see your alive and well .I finally ordered a LSP Pro R to race next year and figured I should get one now while they are available.I got schooled by them racing my TNX against them this past year and enough is enough might as well join them.I also ordered the 3 carbon fibre chassis braces from VP.Any recommendations on anything else ie: servos,spares , gearing.I have a few BB to run allready a new LRPZ28 an OS30 coming from Badger at SC.Do the Wabash with 23mm work well on them as I have a set of 40series with Proline bow ties and a set of Panther Pythons on cut down Wabash.I was thinking of doing up a set of the Boas and aset of Crime fighters on normal offset rims

[CRSMP5]

wow.. your alive..

honestly, pimp my forum (www.hotbodiesforum.com) teh sad aspect is the section you need to look at, aka index in stadium section, at the moment is kinda usless as non of the links are working due to domain change as im taking it over.

basically the index is like how i used to do it on the natzi's forum and links to all the great need to know posts..

wheels/tires i ssomething that is more track dependent.. the wabash is more inset then off set, most people are using a standard offset wheel, and some use off set wheels.. i just picked up a set of zombies on off sets for next season

[Monsterbrad]

I was running the Zombie Maxx all season
Got that ball rolling now they all have them :D
The pro r will have to wait till the Mini LST is paid for and both the other LSP's are up and running again.
You will like this truck its super easy to tune and race.
Ofna 9.5 rear shocks fit nicely and are threaded
aluminum mugen clutch shoes
60wt shock oil
diff oils of your choice
a good radio
and that new 30 from os looks sweet
but the new 528 x novarossi is sweet too

[Ball Racing]

Nova rossi 28, my choice
after that size they are just big numbers that eat gas and don't race well..........

[Monsterbrad]

Well guys after a great season of racing my pro with the 4.6 in it and the Losi Zombie maxx tires on it it has served me well.
There is just one problem and CR was there to see it today.
I struggled with the new Mayhem truggy and ended up losing the last trophy race of the year to it :( .
But as was mentioned before that I have a tendency to jump the band wagon I refuse to give up on the Hot Bodies LSP.
It is here to stay and the pro will be ordered here in a month or so.
But in saying all that watch out for the Mayhem with a good driver like today they are a pretty good running truggy.
Just ticks me off how "buggy like" it is.
Oh well brush up on the driving skills next year is going to be interesting. :rolleyes:

[Ball Racing]

How unlike a buggy is a lsp?
I mean put mud guards on it like the mayhem, and shorten it about 3/4" and How will it not resemble the mayhem ST?

[badboy2]

what kind of track were u running ur zombies?

[Monsterbrad]

Out doors dirt track
www.kandbracetrack.com
The LSP is an outa the box truggy with no buggy components used.
This has been an issue since they came out.

[CRSMP5]

rember brad.. i know of a item that will help lots comming out.. i also know it no fit mayhem. LOL.. still waiting on test pieces to start durability testing and its effects it will make to the stadium..

you should hitch a ride with me sat.. you would need to be my house around 9am.. im like 50min south of k&b.. must go see the jammin truggy john got..

[Ball Racing]

Brad,
whats wrong with buggy parts?

If you want a different brand truck, it will have buggy parts, and influence......
(all those 7.5 BUGGY king headz parts fit so nice on the lsp :) )

and you can't really say that since the lsp has no lightning buggy parts that it does not look like a buggy layout ,,,,,,,

[CRSMP5]

it has a hell of alot of buggy parts.. hmmm silver aluminum different, bones/cvds different, springs, spur, ring/pinion, body mounts, rest of the pro parts are buggy parts..

[Monsterbrad]

Lets not start this on here
It's a truggy ! :D
leave it at that
anyways lets talk about how we are going to make this thing keep up with all the competition that is out and is going to be comming.
Now that everybody has jumped on the truggy band wagon :)

[TheGeneralG]

So what does everyone think of this PRO R version???

http://cgi.ebay.com/Hot-Bodies-Lightning-Stadium-PRO-R_W0QQitemZ6005000899QQcategoryZ44029QQrdZ1QQcmdZV iewItem

[CRSMP5]

great price.. me, mb, mb team mate all plan to own one... its the best lsp to date that i know of..

[Monsterbrad]

The only thing that I can see it needing the the carbon bracing kit to stiffin the chassis up.
I have revo rods on my pro right now and they work great but the vantage or the other kit works well.
I can't remember the name of the other company
CR????

[CRSMP5]

vertigo..

[badboy2]

can u post some of ur lsp pix brad?i wanna see ur set up

[CRSMP5]

http://www.truggyracers.com/CRSMP5/Hotbodies/pre_10_05/LSP/rcinit/bracing/frtdiff.jpg
http://www.truggyracers.com/CRSMP5/Hotbodies/pre_10_05/LSP/rcinit/bracing/rscenterdiif.jpg
http://www.truggyracers.com/CRSMP5/Hotbodies/pre_10_05/LSP/rcinit/bracing/rsrearbrace.jpg

is what rcinit used to use..

[Monsterbrad]

thats about what mine looks like.
But I have one rod between the front and back the Revo suspension rods.
They work very well too!
But the vertigo set up is better I think .

[CRSMP5]

well the issue with rods is they bend/break things love my cf vertigo stuff..

[Monsterbrad]

I have had no issues with my revo rods in there at all.
Just check the screws every once in a while and its all good.

[CRSMP5]

who do i contact about editing my posts?? i need to redo all the photo links of all my posts in this section.. LOL..

[Monsterbrad]

CR that sounds like fun :)
How did that truggy look that you went to see
How is it compared to the LSP here?
I have a bunch of idea's here for the winter.
I may skip the pro r thing and just up grade the 2 that I have instead of an entire new truggy again

[CRSMP5]

i had to work yesterday :( so missed out on trying out the jammin

[CRSMP5]

well i spent yeasterday, part of today redoing mine brad.. pay attention to how the aluminum arms wear at the hing pin points for front c hubs and rear uprights.. i ended up machining areas and fitting a shim to remove slop/wear... now im waiting on my BCE chassis to put back together..

only metal item, including diff gears, that i saw that needs replaces is the front center cvd, major wear on it where pin goes thru.. the diffs after a year of abuse look great still..some bearings were seized, i put all new on my diffs/ring pinions, then moved those to the wheels..

besides the one cvd worn, i had both front wear the pin, that easy fix, lst replacement parts make new for 6$ and the rear center was great.. it sure will be perty for photo op when chassis gets here..

[Monsterbrad]

I have to go over mine here very soon.
I may run out to Ryans next weekend and race one more time before the tear down.
Then it will be a few weeks break while I get some new stuff for the truggy.
Hey CR I would like to chat with ya
Have some questions for you
that' s great to hear about the no wear on those diffs they take a ton of abuse with the big tires and the torque of the big engines.
Mine is still going strong
oh yeah by the way they do get very worn where the aluminum rubs together.
Mine is very worn in those areas.
I have found that some tri flo or wd-40 helps this out a ton.

[badboy2]

i went to race today but unfortunately they didnt allow lsp's/truggies to run they said it didnt meet roars standards..i was dyin to race this thing..
what does those rods do?prevent bending something?

[CRSMP5]

lay chassis flay on knee.. push towards knee on shocktowers.. see the flex??

brad.. wd40 = dust collector = more wear!! do not use wd40 or dirt retaining lubes on hingpins and stuff.. i run mine dry.. my cvds i use wax self cleaning lube white lightning, can be gotten from most bike stores.. works great..


also those who may have not noticed.. the hotbodiesforum has switched to www.truggyracers.com its still hb mass info, but the other truggies are now added into it.

[gr8taz nitro]

Had a really great day of racing saturday. Got to run against Matt Gosch at the RB Mods race in springfield mo. The only thing I can say is wow, he is fast and very smooth in his driving. The jammin truggy he was running was planted on rails. He was the only one turning 10 laps in a 5 min qual. As you can guess he took first place, one of the mugen drivers took 2nd and I was down in 4th place at the end of the A-main. It's a shame hot bodies didn't up the offer to sponsor him because he's good, and he's a really nice guy. Talked to his dad Chris and I'm very impressed with them as a race team.

I need to do something about my off power steering on my LSP. It took me 2 x's as much room to make a turn as he was. Any suggestions?

I'm running 7k/50k/5k in the diffs, 50wt front and 45 wt rear on the shocks, red springs frt and blue's rear. I've got massive amounts of on power steering with standard size crimefighter MT's.

[Monsterbrad]

try tightening up the rear breake bias.
Lock those rear tires up and throw it into the corners.
Thats how I work the truck
I run 120,000 in the center and 50,000 in the front and 30,000 in the rear.
My truck runs pretty well
CR has seen it in action

[CRSMP5]

i know a sure fire way to get more off power steering.. parts not avaliable yet.. me will tell when they are though..

i also say like brad.. more rear brake bias, a little drift action and it turns on a dime..

another way, get a v2 buggy chassis and shorten the wheel base..

[gr8taz nitro]

I don't really want to shorten the wheelbase because of the stability I get on the bigger high speed tracks. I tried increasing the rear brake bias and it helped some but on the technical sections no joy because I couldn't drive fast enough to be able to use the momentum to swing the rear around. This one section in particular was a u shaped turn but it had speed bumps all the way across in a fan pattern with a split S turn at the end as you exited out of the U turn. If I tried to carry some speed I could make the first couple of speed bumps tight but the split s made me turn the other direction and ended up going wide. If I went slower into the turn to try and run the center line off power I pushed bad and ended up on the pipe coming out. It's not the servo b/c I'm runnin jr z8800t's for steering on my buggy and my LSP. I'd hope 180+ oz/in of torque would let me hold my line. LOL

[Monsterbrad]

Those are indeed good servo's.
I have to say that try driving harder :D

[CRSMP5]

what engine ya got? more torque!! also there is a art to drifting.. think the chnnle is called g4, on sunday mornings they have drifting 1:1 car shows. one of th eshows teach you how to drift.. all they teach can be used on the lsp.. after i watched it, my drifting improved 100% have to know when to counter steer to change the weight balance to make a smooth drift.. this is key..

gotta watch it to under stand.. but turn wheel in other direct of the turn, nail the gas, cut back into turn hard and fast, spike the brakes when biased to the rear, more WOT, the rear end will rip around.. depending on the turn, brake bias, this will determin when to wip it in the wrong direction and when to counter steer to do this.. with in like 1.5 sec you will have counter steered, spiked the brakes and WOT it around the turn.. its fast, quick.. but got to be smooth..

[Monsterbrad]

I have drifted my Camaro for a few minutes on street tires it's very fun but hard on street tires.
Any ways they make drift radio control sedans if anybody is interested.
HPI makes a conversion kit for one of there cars.
But the drifting thing does help in making this truggy turn nicely.
CR is right it takes some practice on the track that you are running on.
Get the timing right into the corners!
I do it all the time
after a few laps it works almost all the time
Hey CR Jeff and I are talking about going to Ryans this weekend
Just to see and burn some fuel have a little fun

[CRSMP5]

i will never step inside jefferson.. you know better..

amain.. got lsp-r parts.. hingpin braces, rear brace mounts under 55 shipped ;) will have sat.. the rear toe blocks are 1$ less then headz.. so ill buy headz after xmas.. but had to have the new pro-r hingpin braces before none can be found.. LOL..

[Monsterbrad]

cr if you get this in time
Get me a set
let me know
the new pro r will have to wait
the LST 2 is out
Man I hate this hobby too much new **** LOL :D

[CRSMP5]

your 23hr too late brad... LOL

[NITROSENSE]

Hi CRSMP5
Found you again
Check your pm...

Chassis is going out this week end :D

Keep us posted....


Bill :eek:

[NITROSENSE]

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b222/rnucell/v2069.jpg
Here is the new V2 with the Violator tank opt.

[CRSMP5]

no pm bill :(

that looks great.. only 1 possible issue, will be after i receive it to know though.. if you used the hole behind the pipe mount.. will not work for my hb cnc pipe mount that uses that hole..

[Monsterbrad]

I am going to machine my own pipe mount here in a couple weeks to get rid of that stupid thing they call a pipe mount.
Looks good
thats the shorter chassis right?

[CRSMP5]

mb.. the hb one is under 7$

http://www.truggyracers.com/CRSMP5/Hotbodies/pre_10_05/LSP/tips/hb_options/2.jpg

[Monsterbrad]

Mine will be better then that!
I have a different idea
you'll see :D

[gr8taz nitro]

Something that just dawned on me and I'll have to check and see. I put the integy aluminum c-hubs that the make for the inferno 7.5 and took the stock ones off for that race, and please correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't the inferno c hubs 22 degree? If they are that would account for part of my loss of steering. And the motor that I'm running right now is a RB mod nova P5 with a bergonzoni 7 port sleeve in it. Power is not an issue and with a violator tank and 2 big daddy fuel filters, I did a 30 min main on 4 pits with fuel left in the tank afterward. :D

[CRSMP5]

someone else told me of the loss of steerign with them.. no idea on inferno.. not into them.. but if they are 22* yep.. that will do it..

[BCat125]

Could someone tell me the weak points if any on this truck,if any. I am looking into getting a pro version for my monster truck shows to put a severe beating on.

[CRSMP5]

my suggestion is to look at this (http://www.truggyracers.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=45) everything is outlined there..

[Monsterbrad]

Stiffin the chassis thats the big one.
And get new diff screws that go through the chassis into the housings
www.slapmafro.com
has kits for the screws that you need grade 8 and all.

[CRSMP5]

well brad.. i started break in of the sh 28 pro... threw it in the boys swb truggy so i can try her out sunday at the private track..

http://www.truggyracers.com/CRSMP5/engines/pre_10_05/sh28_pro/3.jpg
http://www.truggyracers.com/CRSMP5/engines/pre_10_05/sh28_pro/1.jpg
incase you did not see the pics of it.. should be uncontroallable with the 2 speed gearing of 14/49 and 18/42 at max rpm.. LOL..

[Monsterbrad]

Chris keep me posted on that engine!
My buddy and I are both looking for .28 engines and he is concerned about reliability and power.
I have a feeling that SH is going to be alot like the K 4.6
Plus I have another truggy that is in need of an engine in the spring

[CRSMP5]

rember brad.. this is not a engine i can seem to find any info on.. its not the normal 3 port version :D 3 port has blue or black head and silver case..

also mach now has a 28 out, and associated has a 28 out.. BUT so far this is the only one ive seen with a bushing on the rod on the wristpin.. the lack of the bushing is what has killed a many mach/sportwerks/sh28s

[Monsterbrad]

well this truck needs a big engine with some torque to get it going!
As well as all the bigger trucks
MGT
LST
TNX
LSP
New Ofna truggy
GS SUT
New Thunder tiger Truggy
they all need the big engine cause it's nice to have the torque

[CRSMP5]

my poor garbage truck.... body is almost in 1/2 now, broke 3 shock ends.. 2 were at SAME time!!! i actually launched a rear dogbone bending it in the process.. its not for the "faint at heart"

i drove a crt for a good 15-20 min today.. not impressed..

[Monsterbrad]

CR
you drove the new ofna truggy and did not like it huh???
What's the deal its supposed to be the **** !!!!!!

[CRSMP5]

http://www.truggyracers.com/CRSMP5/Bodies/Hotbodies/stadium/ukbeetle/beetle_1/6.jpg

[Monsterbrad]

oh my :D

[Monsterbrad]

CR or somebody what is the size of the steering bearings?
they are metris that's all I know.

[CRSMP5]

for the bellcranks??

6x10

dont forget buy some 5x8 flanged for the brake levers.. might as well buy them all i suggest avid for online buying experiance.. cannot beat their price..

[CRSMP5]

http://www.truggyracers.com/CRSMP5/engines/pre_10_05/sh28_pro/11.jpg
http://www.truggyracers.com/CRSMP5/engines/pre_10_05/sh28_pro/33.jpg
someone decided to borro wmy pics for some other natzi forum.. so i had to change my photo urls to reflect the theft of my photos.. so there is photo..

[CRSMP5]

ok more photos.. i got my BCE RC Racing chassis installed.. :D

brad you need to buy one.. its thicker then stock..

http://www.truggyracers.com/CRSMP5/Hotbodies/11_05/BCE_RC_Racing/1.jpg

http://www.truggyracers.com/CRSMP5/Hotbodies/11_05/BCE_RC_Racing/2.jpg
http://www.truggyracers.com/CRSMP5/Hotbodies/11_05/BCE_RC_Racing/5.jpg

http://www.truggyracers.com/CRSMP5/Hotbodies/11_05/BCE_RC_Racing/3.jpg
http://www.truggyracers.com/CRSMP5/Hotbodies/11_05/BCE_RC_Racing/6.jpg

http://www.truggyracers.com/CRSMP5/Hotbodies/11_05/BCE_RC_Racing/4.jpg
http://www.truggyracers.com/CRSMP5/Hotbodies/11_05/BCE_RC_Racing/7.jpg

One of the things Bill did to custom tailor the chassis to our needs, he left the 3 cut outs to self fit via a file.. why you may ask.. kyosho tabes are a different size vs hb and people use kyosho hing pin braces on the LSP from time to time.

[CRSMP5]

http://www.truggyracers.com/CRSMP5/Hotbodies/11_05/BCE_RC_Racing/8.jpg
i started build up with my rear vertigo CF brace and pro-r mount blocks.

http://www.truggyracers.com/CRSMP5/Hotbodies/11_05/BCE_RC_Racing/9.jpg
time to add in the rear end. now most would rebuild the rear end at this point.. but i did that 2 weeks ago, before using this past weekend.

http://www.truggyracers.com/CRSMP5/Hotbodies/11_05/BCE_RC_Racing/10.jpg
time to add the front end.. since i have the vertigo front brace, its 1 unit with the center diff.. it also has the king headz anti bend rod for added strength..

[CRSMP5]

http://www.truggyracers.com/CRSMP5/Hotbodies/11_05/BCE_RC_Racing/12.jpg
the ofna 145cc tank and HB cnc pipe mount!!

http://www.truggyracers.com/CRSMP5/Hotbodies/11_05/BCE_RC_Racing/13.jpg
yep a close fit.. but fits well

http://www.truggyracers.com/CRSMP5/Hotbodies/11_05/BCE_RC_Racing/14.jpg
:o rb tm728, same as tops/rex/rossi 28s with pull start.. installed with HB cnc machined engine mounts!!! perfect fit..

http://www.truggyracers.com/CRSMP5/Hotbodies/11_05/BCE_RC_Racing/15.jpg

http://www.truggyracers.com/CRSMP5/Hotbodies/11_05/BCE_RC_Racing/16.jpg
electronics installed!!

his section on truggyracers (http://www.truggyracers.com/forum/index.php?showforum=50) (he has all kinds of goodies he is working on) and to order one you can drop him a email at Raceum@earthlink.net i just ask to add in where you saw the chassis to the amil so he knows where he is getting hits from.

[CRSMP5]

now to keep the droop screws from tearing up the chassis...

http://www.truggyracers.com/CRSMP5/Hotbodies/11_05/droop_stop/3.jpg
http://www.truggyracers.com/CRSMP5/Hotbodies/11_05/droop_stop/1.jpg
http://www.truggyracers.com/CRSMP5/Hotbodies/11_05/droop_stop/4.jpg
http://www.truggyracers.com/CRSMP5/Hotbodies/11_05/droop_stop/2.jpg

http://www.truggyracers.com/CRSMP5/lhs/10_7_05/2.jpg

this is what im trying on my BCE RC racing chassis.. in theory it should work, non of the steel set screw is close to teh edge of the plastic nut i shaved down to size.. you will have to open the hole of th e3mm plastic nut up to 4mm though ;)

[Monsterbrad]

CR
Avid have an internet address?
I like the droop screw idea but how about some spacers inside the shocks to stop the arms from hitting?

[CRSMP5]

then all of a sudden your using the shock as a limiter again and things break..

avid webpage (http://www.avidrc.com/shop/product_info.php/cPath/32/products_id/127?osCsid=d70376307375cfe254d2ae955860a8e1)

[702nitro]

I'm planning on getting the LSP R within the next month or two, and i wanna know a couple of things before i buy it.. This monster is going to be for racing!!!!!

1) Is 90 oz of Torque Enough? Transit Time? <--- Steering
2) Engine with a recoil fit?

[CRSMP5]

depends on the engine... give me a list and i can tell..

i would be honest, 150-200oz depending on the tires used.. stock will work with 90oz due to their weight.. but one with more torque will work better in the long run.. you also want it to be as fast as possible..

www.truggyracers.com there is a pinned index in the stadium section with lots of "whats it need' questions and fixes listed..

hey brad.. lookie what im trying to get...

http://www.truggyracers.com/forum/uploads/images/111.jpg
i figure silver/chrome stickies to go with my cf/polished aluminum lsp would look sweet for table sitting at teh track..

[Monsterbrad]

you have the craziest damn bodies
Looks sweet to me
I would say for the steering servo nothing under 100 oz in torque.
I have tried lesser and they just dont cut it.
you probably will want .19 or faster transit time.

[CRSMP5]

its not like you do not have a sweet metalic black with chrome flame job brad :D

you get it dirty yet??

http://www.truggyracers.com/CRSMP5/Bodies/Hotbodies/stadium/brad1/1.jpg
http://www.truggyracers.com/CRSMP5/Bodies/Hotbodies/stadium/brad1/2.jpg

only photos i know of it.... :P

[CRSMP5]

well brad i now own the last 2 of those cf look beetle bodies.. :D

[jmcn r]

wow, i cannot believe this thread!! i first looked at it roughly a year ago...posted a couple weeks after....i cant believe i am going through it again from page one and i am still amazed at the mass info and great relations of everyone!! honestly, good job and thanks for such a pleasant and helpful read :) i continued following this thread for about a month till i realised i would not be able to go race back in January. I checked back once during summer, the other day i was at home and was planning on getting some of my RCs together (and my act together) but i ended up coming here. read the first 50 pages, then just came back today and read the last 75 + great stuff. :D

all i can say is that seeing this kind of camaraderie and seeing such a great piece of kit and people who actually use them (most important) has reawakened my great love for this sport. just need to pick up some of my stuff in my friends possesion and start making space and gathering funds...time to get back on track!


well brad i now own the last 2 of those cf look beetle bodies.. :D

CRS, is that body painted CF style or is there some sort of sticker layer on it?

also a bit offtopic, i am sorry to hear about your fall out with SC...that is where i first learned about you from and learned alot from u!! if this is such a great thread (and other previous ones similar to this) i am going to register right now at a couple of those more dedicated forums and keep track there too. :)






great to see everyone having great success with their LSP investments for the entire year! keep it up for another.

[CRSMP5]

the body is actually molded from black lexan with a cf look weve made into it so will never scratch/chip.. in that theory..

well i own www.truggyracers.com now LOL.. so its even better then when i was on central, i have mfg hooking me up with stuff for demo testing and all now and looking for real feedback unlike when i was there.. even design ideas before final designs are made up. im much happier to not be forced to be sheltered..

brad is even more lucky.. he gets to see the goodies i try out.. LOL... well all but 1 thing at least.. i use them as my other racers feedback and what do they think idea with a word of not allowed to mention it online at all..

the goal has always been frendly.. for a bit there brad and someone got into it.. i just wish i could go back and edit all the posts with broken photo links..

[Monsterbrad]

People saying I am on a band wagon!!!!!
I love this truck and the MGT and the LST.
I was just trying them all to see what I liked the best.
I know now
LSP great race truck
MGT basher all the way
LST great basher
Savage basher maybe racer CR :D
GS SUT had 2,.,,, great basher I have been told a good racer never tried mine on the track
in my opinion nothing handles like this truggy does though!

[702nitro]

CRSMP5

I'm thinking about Dymanite .26 Mach Engine w/ pullstart! Will this fit in the LSP R? Is this any good? Any recommendations?

by the way thanks for your previous help! you too Monster B

[CRSMP5]

honestly, you need some parts to make life easy, the mach backplate is large and has fitment issues, the parts

my thread on it (http://www.truggyracers.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=71)

the parts required
backplate and 1 way you will have to have, above link shows photos as to why (http://www.hobbypeople.net/gallery/148191.asp)
you will also need a pull start/roto start for it.. basically 30ish in parts so makes it a 150$ option.. BUT my issue with the mach is life span.. i do not see them getting more then 6 gal of life. you can buy a rossi 28 3 port for 180 from here (http://www.mugenracing.com/shop/index.html) but this will require making a hole in the chassis OR the BCE RC Racing chassis for direct fit.. BUT mine has over 7 gal is still going strong..

[702nitro]

honestly, you need some parts to make life easy, the mach backplate is large and has fitment issues, the parts

my thread on it (http://www.truggyracers.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=71)

the parts required
backplate and 1 way you will have to have, above link shows photos as to why (http://www.hobbypeople.net/gallery/148191.asp)
you will also need a pull start/roto start for it.. basically 30ish in parts so makes it a 150$ option.. BUT my issue with the mach is life span.. i do not see them getting more then 6 gal of life. you can buy a rossi 28 3 port for 180 from here (http://www.mugenracing.com/shop/index.html) but this will require making a hole in the chassis OR the BCE RC Racing chassis for direct fit.. BUT mine has over 7 gal is still going strong..

So what your saying is that with the BCE RC Racing chassis, there would be no Engine Mounting issues? Who sells them? How much is one?

[CRSMP5]

for the rossi/rb/tops/rex 28 with pull starts no mods would be required.. the sh/mach/sportwerks would require backplates no matter what..

a page back i showed the BCE chassis photos, his company info/products are here (http://www.truggyracers.com/forum/index.php?showforum=50)
his email is Raceum@earthlink.net but from what i know he has not given a offical price..

[jmcn r]

the body is actually molded from black lexan with a cf look weve made into it so will never scratch/chip.. in that theory..

well i own www.truggyracers.com now LOL.. so its even better then when i was on central, i have mfg hooking me up with stuff for demo testing and all now and looking for real feedback unlike when i was there.. even design ideas before final designs are made up. im much happier to not be forced to be sheltered..

brad is even more lucky.. he gets to see the goodies i try out.. LOL... well all but 1 thing at least.. i use them as my other racers feedback and what do they think idea with a word of not allowed to mention it online at all..

the goal has always been frendly.. for a bit there brad and someone got into it.. i just wish i could go back and edit all the posts with broken photo links..


cool stuff CRS. its people like you that drive the industry and provide motivation and insight to all!! having a long term plan seems to help too, it shows in the support you have gained especially by putting the expertise into actual products. its the opther people around you and sticking with you that encourage all others too.

anyway thats enough flattery from me....just keep up the great work and people like me will always be around to soak all the info up!

[CRSMP5]

all i can say is i try my best. keeping info where it can be found and of most help is what its all about.

[Monsterbrad]

we all try our best to keep up on this stuff!
it's crazy how much stuff just keeps comming out all the time.
But that keeps the hobby going
Hey CR post some links to the vertigo and other up grades if you can.
Thanks
my buddy just got a pro r
its sweet

[CRSMP5]

www.vertigoperformance.com
www.kingheadz.com
BCE RC Racing (http://www.truggyracers.com/forum/index.php?showforum=50)

racers edge.. aka look on amain..

IMO with a pro-r
BCE chassis

vertigo cf front/rear braces, his cf servo layout, HB cf is kinda crappy FYI, shocktowers, draglink, brakes, center diff piece.. CHEAPER from any LHS that deals with HRP as they give discount to LHS vs direct

headz front anti bend rod, rear toe block (others IMO pro-r has are great)

Hb cnc pipe mount, ofna 145cc tank

racers edge 3.0mm shock ends, steering knuckles when/if stockers bend

my plastic nut droop screw fix :D

[CRSMP5]

brad... i need to work out a date for a SAT trip to crcrc.. they will run truggy on sat IF enough of us show up i wanna get voodoo, me, maybe kuhn, you and any other locals rallied up for a trip down for a race..

[Monsterbrad]

I am down for that!!!!
I would love to go there
count me in
just give me a date!!!!!!! :D

[CRSMP5]

i know you hate truggyracers.. pop over there, track section, you will see where i am trying to organize a date to go..

[Monsterbrad]

Hey Now
I do not hate truggy racers :eek:
Truggy's are the best
I just wish more people would race them at K and B in the summer.
It would be cool to see this class grow like 1/8 scale buggy has and still is.

[CRSMP5]

truggyracers as in my forum brad.. see it switched names.. LOL.. less then 3 members away from 600 now too.. been havign big growth spurt..

honestly when it gets big it will not be any fun.. people will come show their arss.. kinda like 1/8th scale buggy racers do.. and well that will be the end of the fun racing i have..

[Monsterbrad]

I hear ya there
but where we are
I don't think it will get that big!

[CRSMP5]

im thinking sat of turkey weekend brad.. let me know..

[Monsterbrad]

keep me posted
I hope that hunting does not mess that up for me
that will suck :mad:

[CRSMP5]

well.. hmmm it is sat of turkey weekend that i AM going.. LOL..

[Monsterbrad]

next saturday
I don't think we leave till sunday night.
i'll check with my bro and see what he says.
How many of us are going
I might try to get Jeff to go :)

[CRSMP5]

i have guy from dayton meeting us, voodoo might, vega might, someone else on truggyracers said they were, me, i expect the to mights to be going... im trying to get milli to go...

[702nitro]

Question! Does the LSP R come with a steering servo horn, or do I have to use the horn that came with the servo, and cut it for clearance?

Does the steering turnbuckle have to be exactly 90deg? can i get away it more? say 100 deg

[CRSMP5]

you use the servo horn from the servo..

try to get it as close to 90 as you can.. else the steering throw will be off..

[702nitro]

CR Thanks!

[CRSMP5]

i do all i can for others :D

[Monsterbrad]

another tip
aluminum servo horns that are cut with the slpine to fit your metal splined servo's help also.
The plastic ones wear out after a while on the metal splines of the servo.
I have aluminum on the race truck
Its not a must but it helps in those crazy crashes we all have now and then :)

[CRSMP5]

brad.. if your computer graphics are good.. truggyracers is having a contest.. prize is a BCE RC Racing chassis :D

[Monsterbrad]

I'll check it out!
I was checking over the new LSP pro r
nice hex head screws all over
too bad they are still wood screws
Oh well :eek:

[CRSMP5]

since the lightning gt came out they been hex head..

[Monsterbrad]

yeah but they are wood screw type threads :(

[CRSMP5]

ive been running www.get-screwed.com screws since dec sir.. LOL..

[Monsterbrad]

There is a magic line that you cross when you talk about how hard a steel screw is before it become's brittle!

[CRSMP5]

why i can reccomend the get-screwed ones..

[Monsterbrad]

Did you just order the kit for the Hot Bodies Lightening series?

[CRSMP5]

yep it is same for all the lightnings

[Monsterbrad]

Cool :D

[Pat Fierle]

I was just wondering if there is a big difference between the lightning stadium pro and the the lightning statium rtr(not pro). Is the pro really worth the hundred extra dollars, the only real difference i can see is the alluminum arms.

[CRSMP5]

aluminum arms
aluminum shock caps
aluminum cnc steering knuckles a 65$ item
the front kick up block is aluminum 30$ item
has hardend diff gears 30$ in parts
has center cvds 30$ in parts
has rubber sealed bearings vs metal shelded ones

see the value?? also the aluminum arms are 70$ a pair from HB.. so 140$ worth of arms, plastic arms are 7-8 a pair.. so if that worries you.. sell them and buy plastic..

i suggest looking at www.truggyracers.com at the pinned index in the stadium section for other hints/tips..

[Pat Fierle]

So if i was buying a truggy do you think the LSP is the way to go over the Mayhem ST.

[Monsterbrad]

I have raced against the Mayhem!
All I can say is from what I have seen its a good handeling truck.
They are about even in all aspects except the LSP is just a little nicer and looks more like a truggy something that should be on the track.
The Mayhem looks cheesy if you ask me.
Get the LSP or the Pro R and do it up right you will be pleased.

[performula]

Looks can be deceiving...:)

[CRSMP5]

take a look on www.truggyracers.com and do some reserch pat..

from what i see the mayhem people are looking for a longer chassis...

also dont forget the crt.. i drove one, i think it turned like poo, but others love it.. on the forum there are quite a few lsp boat jumpers that went to mugen and jammin.. most of them i respect their words and advice and help as they have shown/proven themselves on the lsp.. so take a look and ask questions where its most usefull..

[Pat Fierle]

Thanks for your advice.

[Monsterbrad]

Lets face it here !!!
You can have the most expensive tuggy or anything for that matter out there........but if you can't drive,,,,,,, well nothing in the world can help you.
I watched a guy with a ready to run Hot Bodies buggy take first over all the guys that run the fancy expensive stuff with no problem.
There is alot to be said for straight up skill :D

[CRSMP5]

i agree brad.. but i can say this on the crt.. it took john, and made him a better driver much like a LSP does.. i just want him to be able to ask the right peple and make a best for me decision on it.. its hard to suggest what sbest for anyone.. i rember the day of im not buying that from you brad.. till you saw mine, then saw it in action.. then you ordered one the next day :D you made a decision after seeign your options. i want pat to make a decision with info and if he has oppertunity visual hands on experiance..

[Pat Fierle]

Thanks, I really apreciate that your helping me choose the right truck. Here is my situation, I have a T-Maxx which needs alot so I can race it next year. The track i am racing at next year has an unlimited class in which i am running in but they have around 4 truggies in that class and the drivers are pretty good from my persective. So now i am trying to fix up my maxx but wondering if i should just get a truggy. In my opinion a rookie racer like me who has hardly raced before, A truggy is going to destroy my T-Maxx. I just think that a truggy is easier to drive fast around atrack versus a T-Maxx which was never intended to race. So basicaly i am thinking about a truggy but money is a HUGE issue cause i ride snowmobiles and race karts and none of those sports are cheap. ok, so what truck in your opinion is the best bang for the buck but handles well? Thanks for all or any advice you can give.

[CRSMP5]

the supermaxxes were no match for the truggies, the lightweight tmaxx that runs with us has the same issue.. if your running against truggies, buy a truggy.. if you have a actual mt class and truggies seperate buy a lst or a savage.. LOL..

wait till after xmas.. if your comfortable lots will be selling used stadiums due to jumping to other truggies on the market.. i keep seeing nice examples with spare parts for 300-400 on truggyracers.. stick to the pro or pro-r with aluminum arms.. the plastic arms flex way too much..

[Monsterbrad]

I can say from experience be very very careful buying a race truggy off ebay.
There are alot of garbage trucks out there.
I ended up with some piece of **** from a guy that was full of ****.
IN the long run I would have been better off to buy another new pro that was ready to run and use that as a back up.
So just take some time to think it over unless CR can hook you up with someones ride.
Most of the time used stuff just leads to spending more money trying to get it the way you want it.
Thats been my experience :rolleyes:

[CRSMP5]

id only point out stuff from peopl ei semi know from truggyracers.. fleabay is no good IMO as people put junk there to sell.. but to sell on my forum, from someone i trust, like monkey, i would give thumbs up too.. he sold his though..

[CRSMP5]

ill be on my way to crcrc around 8am tomarrow brad.. hope your goign to make it..

[Monsterbrad]

What engines is everybody running ??????
I have a 4.6 with the Nova rc products head

[702nitro]

I have a problem with my throttle-brake link setup. Whenever i blip or squeeze the throttle at full and release the carb or opening it returns to its normal position (idle position), but for some reason whenever I apply the brakes (light squeezes or full), the servo returns to a position that causes the carb to open up slightly or way past idle. Whats causing this is it the servo horn?

[mdmaxx]

i have a rex p5nx in my lsp

[mdmaxx]

take off your servo horn, then make sure your throttle trim is at zero, then put horn back on. probably had your trim up when you put the horn on causing the problem you have.

[Monsterbrad]

You have to have something set wrong cause the set up for the throttle on these trucks is pretty much bullet proof.
Check the end points and make sure you have the servo centered before you put the servo horn on the servo.

[CRSMP5]

i came in 2nd brad.. you should have come out... was a blast..

tops 28 3 port
rb tm728
sh 28 pro
rb ws7II
eb modded p5
eb modded tops 28 8 port (imo junk)

[CRSMP5]

http://www.truggyracers.com/CRSMP5/Bodies/Hotbodies/stadium/ukbeetle/cf_beetle/cf_beetle%20001.jpg
http://www.truggyracers.com/CRSMP5/Bodies/Hotbodies/stadium/ukbeetle/cf_beetle/cf_beetle%20002.jpg
http://www.truggyracers.com/CRSMP5/Bodies/Hotbodies/stadium/ukbeetle/cf_beetle/cf_beetle%20003.jpg

got them today

[gr8taz nitro]

RB Modified Novarossi rx21p5
RB Modified Bergonzoni 7port
Wasp .28 (junk)
Fantom FR27 (doesn't last past 1.5 gallons)
Picco .27
Sportwerks .21
The fantom has tons of power but doesn't last past 1 to 1 1/2 gallons. Resleaved it 3 times now. Wasp .28 basically same engine, just cheaper price. Favorite engine is the RB Bergonzoni. Rick at RB modded a bergonzoni 7 port piston and sleeve into a Novarossi 5pt block. Screaming engine, getting 8 1/2 min runs with ofna tank, no extra fuel line. :D

[702nitro]

Anyways throttle linkage setup problem is gone. I did have the EPA set correctly, and Trims centered before. But I fixed it by adding an extra collar to compress the spring a little on throttle link.

[Monsterbrad]

CR that body would be cooler if it was the stock one.
I would like one like that for my LST and MGT in the Chevy Silverado truck
That would be cool.

[CRSMP5]

hey brad.. dec 10th.. wanna goto crcrc? i need to go talk with big_dog in person and will be racing too.. LOL..

[nitro_newguy]

lmao funny enough ordered my buggy recieved my parcel and by mistake they had given me the hot bodies lightning stadium truggy by mistake, looks a beast but i sent it back for my right buggy

[CRSMP5]

kewl.. what buggy did you order? and if they charged you buggy price for the stadium.. depending on which stadum they sent, you probally had something worth more then ya spent

[Monsterbrad]

I would have kept the truggy.
Too many guys race 1/8 scale now and they for the most part are way to serious.
I like to have more fun then worry about where I am placing for the most part,
Winning in always nice though !!!!!!

[CRSMP5]

you commin to crcrc on the 10th brad?

[Monsterbrad]

I can't make it CR
sorry maybe next time
these past few weeks have been kinda crazy with hunting and taking care of car problems and stuff
next time though

[CRSMP5]

my next time will be the winternats.. :D im all signed up for it and paid up, have hotel reservations too..

[Monsterbrad]

Has anybody seen all the King Headz stuff on amainhobbies.com?

[CRSMP5]

i have.. milli has his lsp decked with it..

IMO the pro-r cnc pieces just as nice, the headz front anti bend rod has bigger foot then hb cnc one, racers edge knuckles work great, increase steering big time vs stock, i have headz rear toeblock now too..

i say combine cf and headz and pro-r pieces for best bang of the buck and weight.. dont forget you need a BCE chassis... thats a hell of a great item for its cost..

[Monsterbrad]

Thats cool to know
MOre Steering :D

[spurgear1]

Hey guys Im new owner of a pro -R , Rc Experience 4 yrs . I just started getting this thing ready to race , Two questions . The shock pistons front says 3, rear 4 just wondering if that sounds right, reason i ask one piston isnt stamped to good , Just want to make sure . 2** Where can you find a aluminum flat brace that goes from front bulk to center diff same way on rear . I saw it on a LSP at a big race and others ive talked to have also seen something like it. Home Made ? That piston thing has me puzzled i like to go over every thing just to be sure ,These things are built by people and people make mistakes it never hurts to check things. Thanks in advance for any help. OH YEA This is one mean looking truck its got race all over it. Just look at the stance. :) :

[CRSMP5]

i have a CF brace on mine made by vertigo..

honestly, never saw numbers on my shock pistons.. i never knew they made different ones.. from what i know all 4 are the same..

http://www.truggyracers.com/CRSMP5/Hotbodies/pre_10_05/LSP/tips/vertigo/9.jpg
IF you do this you need to tie the center to the rear also..

http://www.truggyracers.com/CRSMP5/Hotbodies/pre_10_05/LSP/tips/vertigo/6.jpg
else it will flex real bad in this area..

i also suggest the BCE Chassis
http://www.truggyracers.com/CRSMP5/Hotbodies/11_05/BCE_RC_Racing/bce1.jpg

[spurgear1]

:D Thanks CRS, I never heard of #4 pistons in 1/8 th scale any way.You confirmed it. The pro -r chassis looks thick, what makes the BCE chassis so much better thicker ,lighter,titanium? Im not worried about weight I like a beefy chassis it the back bone of the truck. What about the turnbuckles some people are using for braces, ive looked all over the net. Revo's dont look like they will work that good, was more interested in the T Maxx braces, I need part Numbers and breif description how to situate them .A picture is worth a thousand words. Hey thanks again ,anyone else feel free to chime in and help, want these braces to be right.

[Monsterbrad]

I have Revo rods on my truck and they work very well.
I don't think they work as well as the Vertigo stuff but they keep the chassis from flexing.
In all reality from what I have seen in the last few months of racing all summer and seeing how my buddy Jeff did with his mostly stock LSP pro with a Mach 26 in it the chassis being stiffer is just a personal thing.
It does not make that much difference in the way it handles at least not to the average racer for the most part.
I don't like chassis flex in my rigs so I try to aliminate it.
There is a nice article in one of the Rc Driver or car magazines about a LSP that they built using all the good stuff.
It has great info on what needs to be done.
Cr's ride is pretty much decked out with all the stuff that is needed.
Mine is catching up but has Revo rods instead of the Vertigo stuff.
don't forget to double up on the steering plate.
I broke my steering this last weekend on the side that the servo hooks too.
broke at the spring.

[CRSMP5]

well IMO the truck flies 100% different with the bce chassis, its thicker, weighs less then stock, the material is better then HB's 7075, i do not knwo if its from milled areas or if its just that much stiffer letting it fly better.. all i know is it is not the same jumper it was before the chassis..

the problem with revo rods to the front are where they screw into the bulk.. you will actually bend those screws, break the diff cas and so on.. vertigo mounts to the steering posts which are much more heafty as they are 4mm bolts

come check out www.truggyracers.com look at the pinned index in the stadum section

also a added item to vertigo's front brace.. place to mount transponder!!