Trinity Spyder Monster Truck

[StevePond]

http://www.rccaraction.com/pics/trinity/Spyder1.jpg

http://www.rccaraction.com/pics/trinity/Spyderchassis.jpg


Here’s a close-up Trinity’s all-new nitro-powered Spyder monster truck. The big-block RTR features a .256 cubic-inch engine and comes with an aluminum tuned pipe, has an eight shock suspension, two-speed tranny with reverse, factory-painted body, dual-disc brakes and a shaft starting system. The drivetrain is mounted in a very narrow ladder-style chassis and the center-mounted engine is very low in the chassis to lower the center of gravity for improved handling. A big 170cc fuel tank provides long run times between refills, and on-the-fly fueling via the quick-fill cap means you can run as long as you have fuel. The Spyder fits engines with typical big-block dimensions, so pyscho upgrades like the Sirio .27 engine push speeds from fast to insane.

Features:
• full bearings
• 8 aluminum shocks
• ladder-style chassis
• aluminum tuned pipe
• 2-speed transmission with reverse
•.256 cubic-inch engine
• Big 170cc fuel tank
• Pivot ball/hingepin hybrid suspension
• High-torque steering servo
• Shaft starting system with included starter unit
• Includes rechargeable glow-starter with wall charger and fuel bottle
• Factory-finished body

[ElectricThunder]

Neat lookin truck. Interesting how the engine is mounted inline, but the chassis looks SUPER narrow. HUGE tires though!:D Bugs me that no one will make anymore electric MTs... :rolleyes: Still, looks like a neat truck... Reminds me of a savage.

[savageP3]

that tank is huge!

[rcguy2477]

Looks good

I take it this is the thing that they have been advertising on the back cover saying that they would tell use 10/1, you let the cat out of the bag steve :eek: :D

[losi_modified]

looks like a savage a bad a$$ savage that is lol

[Chris LaPanse]

That looks like a narrow Savage with a huge fuel tank. Looks awesome. Can't wait to see some reviews.

[Bansheeman]

I don't see what so special about it and why they would hype it up so much. I like the narrow chassis, but other then that, it looks like that new Duratrax truck mixed with a Savage.

[Farwar]

Doesn't look like anything special to me. The radio box and servo's open like that are ugly looking. Is there 3 servos though? Kind of looks funny with massive tires and such skinny typ's.

[rcboy201]

looks real nice.......im sure it will be very hight guality considering trinity makes it

[fezzy]

lol, Trinity don't make it.. Its been out in europe for a little while now, In the UK its distributed by mtroniks.net (http://www.mtroniks.net/mtroniks_products.asp?CategoryID=2&SubCategoryID=14) badged as a Zircon TPC Truck.

Looks cheap and nasty IMO.

[jimbow]

wow, thats cool but im sure its gonna be expensive. also, that name is a complete ripoff of kingman. I wonder if this Spyder can do 20 bps too?

[anothermbdusted]

where's the mini truck they have also that is electric 1/18th scale 4wd?http://www.teamtrinity.com/ibspyder.htm

[anothermbdusted]

i doubt it looks pretty nice in my opinion i just wonder if its a clone of the associated version is all

[munim]

This truck totally redefines monster trucks!!!

Okay seriously, why bother?

[AudiTT-Quattro]

The only thing I'm concerned about right now is parts support. Pretty much all of Trinity's cars have horrible support which is why none of our local shops carry parts for their cars.

[studysession]

Any pics with the body off?

Looks similar:
http://www.mtroniks.net/images/LgNews/TPC.jpg

[studysession]

If it is close to being the truck in the pic I posted - It is not like the savage. I compared the one in the pic to a Savage and there is a big difference.

[Bansheeman]

I think when they say 'inline engine' they mean the engine is mounted in the center, not like the way the MGT has it mounted.

[microrcdude]

ya, tires and the body are HUGE!

[jimbow]

i HATE it when companies try to sell a MT by the size of its tires. I dont care about that, i only look for racing, and for racing, tires of that diameter would SUCK!

[ElectricThunder]

^ Unless you bash, then it doesn't matter. Small tires stink for running over various plants that anger you....:D

[HauntedMyst]

This truck totally redefines monster trucks!!!

Okay seriously, why bother?

LOL! Because Trinity wants a piece of the Monster truck pie and didn't want to develop their own?

[studysession]

Regardless what anyone here posts or anyone else thinks. They will put their name on it and make money. So why be so negative.

Be happy it gives people more options.

[-=ADA$=-]

if you look ONLY for racing than why look into MT? theyr not made for racig, if you want racer get 1/8 buggy or tourer, MT are made to bash, and big tires help there

[anothermbdusted]

if thats the case that mts are only made to bash then why do they have races for the likes of the new revo the Lst the mgt or the savage or the tried and true tmaxx and other monster trucks.you have just yet to be to a race to run one. MT racing is like no other racing because you got to control it alot more then you might think compared to a agile 1/8th buggy or a touring car....and i promise you if my MT hits your 1/8th scale buggy I WILL BRAEK YOURS for sure so get out of the way!!

[studysession]

YES - 1/8 scale buggies are great for racing. They are also great bashers. I have 2 myself. I love racing 1/8 scale buggies.

I agree - the MT's are more for bashing.

[jimbow]

Because at our track there is a MT class, and its one of the funner ones to run in cuz of a lot of fun people, and you can jump higher and not bottom out.

[studysession]

I have jumped my Hyper 7 more than 50ft in the air. When I lived in the US, I used to take it to contruction sites and jump off the big dirt piles. Some of the dirt piles were 35 - 40ft high and then when coming off the top, I would get another 10 - 15 ft higher. I also have a video where they take a 1/8 scale Kyosho buggy and jump a 2 story house. --- Buggies are better jumpers than MT's.

[-=ADA$=-]

you want to try :D:D ive crashed so far with savage and mammoth ive always run later MT's had to be fixed :D bent shock shaft, and broken skid, not much but always, and another thing its not about which car is tougher, its not destruction derby

[anothermbdusted]

thats true its not a derby but if the truck is built right in the first place then well it will be very impossible to break and will handle excellent....i know my emaxx can keep up with a buggy on a tight track but will lose in a long track cause a lack of top speed,as for jumping well the mts are much more forgiving on landings.....

[studysession]

I do like MT's - My wife has a hopped up TMaxx. She loves it. Loads of fun. Just I would not race with one. I love them for bashing around in the rough.

[kitty]

For those who want to see more pictures, go here (http://www.teamtrinity.com/nitrospyder.htm). I see what one guy meant about the chassis plates (TVPs) being close together. Those are much narrower than the Savage, that's for sure. That's why the engine is mounted closer to the center line - no room for it otherwise.

I definitely like the fuel tank on this one. The longer, shorter design (compared to the tank on the Savage) should be less likely to lean the engine out at half tank.

I like Trinity's electric motors, but I have yet to see any of their vehicles in person. I don't know anyone who owns one, so I have no idea how well they are made or even where to buy them (or parts for them). I kinda like the design of this one, except for the oversized wheels. Plenty of us Savage owners know all too well how fragile larger wheels are (for example the 7" size by Hot Bodies - such crap). I guess only time will tell until someone buys one of the Trinity Spyder trucks so they can give us some real-world opinions.

[RrR]

Its a Dirt Demon with a savage chassis.LOL

[Natedog]

lol, Trinity don't make it.. Its been out in europe for a little while now, In the UK its distributed by mtroniks.net (http://www.mtroniks.net/mtroniks_products.asp?CategoryID=2&SubCategoryID=14) badged as a Zircon TPC Truck.

Looks cheap and nasty IMO.


Sooo, is that version of it any good?

[studysession]

Version of it? It is same truck. Just different body. Trinity is just putting their name on it.

[mikecasc]

Trinity actually designed this truck, I am curious to wonder if Sirio is the one that made the engine.

[marvin-pro3]

Looks like a another savage killer on the block :cool: .

How much CC's are .256 inch?? I gues it's a lot :D

[QUAKE&SHAKE]

4.27cc

They claim its the fastest of the racing mt's and 1/7th scale

[studysession]

I do not know how they can claim it is 1/7 scale. It is made by Flying Point and Trinity just puts their name on it. In other countries it sells as a 1/8 scale truck:
http://www.mtroniks.net/mtroniks_products.asp?CategoryID=2&SubCategoryID=14

[Toyotatogo]

Only problem I see with the truck is the design of the big 170cc fuel tank hanging off the left side. It seems the weight distribution would be off when turning the corner. I think they should have put the tank closer to the center, and rearranged the steering, and radio somehow.

[2.0dohc]

"Trinity actually designed this truck,"

nope, I have seen the Flying Point tuck in person, all trinity did was stick there sticker on the box

"Only problem I see with the truck is the design of the big 170cc fuel tank hanging off the left side."


just wait till you see it run, unless the Flying Point truck I saw was a dud, you are going to be dissapointed :(

[studysession]

I have seen the truck in persona myself - But it was on the shelf. I did not see it run. I do like the looks of it and it is HUGE.

[BJoeHandley]

id anybody take a look at the other products on that web site? The other truck and the buggy's (including the "stadium truck) all kind look like Duratrax Axis/Thunder Quake

[hasminor]

Can thetrinity TRUCK compete with the other well established BRANDS NO NAMES PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Racer Rob]

How in the heck do you expect people to tell you that when its not even out yet.

[maxxamillion]

Looks like the current trend is the TVP style chassis(on MT's). Must have good overall stiffness. The choices are numerous these days(on MT's). Hard to decide on a purchase-don't want to get caught with the dud in the bunch!
I think I'll go truggy style on my next buy. I hope ITS not the dud!

BTW, Both the Spyder & Warhead are interesting additions to the MT wars.
It looks like the Warhead bumpers could blow off rather easily.
We need a massive MT shootout with no publication or release date excuses to get them ALL in... :D

[-=ADA$=-]

it is out in europe but under different brand. And its really funny about that chassis trend, its likely that kyosho intorduced new invention in nitro MT's, and HPI developed it, so its very popular now :d

[MaxxGT23]

I have jumped my Hyper 7 more than 50ft in the air. When I lived in the US, I used to take it to contruction sites and jump off the big dirt piles. Some of the dirt piles were 35 - 40ft high and then when coming off the top, I would get another 10 - 15 ft higher. I also have a video where they take a 1/8 scale Kyosho buggy and jump a 2 story house. --- Buggies are better jumpers than MT's.


Im gonna have to disagree on the part where you say buggies are better jumpers then MT's. I have had both and the 1/8 buggies do fly straighter more often, but a monster will be more forgiving a take a bigger jump then a buggy, on any day.

[studysession]

That's funny - it is all matter of opinion.

[vtl1180ny]

Why bother with this 1:7th scale??? We have 1:10th and 1:18th NITRO powered Trucks already.... If you aren't going to veer off the NITRO bandwagon don't veer off the already established scales...

Why do I keep capitalizing NITRO??? Cause 1:6th Scale is GASOLINE!!!!!

Would I rather spend their overinflated price for a tempermental Nitro powerplant or the same price for a 1:6th scale Gasoline Powered Truck???

I'm saving my dollars for the FG MT... That 4.27cc motor can't compete with a 26cc Zenoah motor... No contest here.... I'd rather go all day on $2 worth of gas/oil....

Sorry Trinity, you're a day late and much more than a dollar short...

[MaxxGT23]

Man, I can't believe how people bash a truck that isn't even out yet. Please everyone, lets wait until it is tested.

[2.0dohc]

Man, I can't believe how people bash a truck that isn't even out yet. Please everyone, lets wait until it is tested.


but it has been tested, just not with the trinity stickers on it.

[studysession]

It looks like a good truck to me. Just would like to see one running in person.

[ALJR]

Im not even going to comment on the buggy/mt argument that was going on in here. i belive this is the wrong thread for such a debate...

in regards to this truck. i think trinity missed the mark! it doesn't even have sealed diffs or a slipper clutch!! so this is going to be strictly a basher.. the tires look like the dirt demons and the suspension knuckles look like they would be a week-link.. there are just so many other (better IMO) top-notch mt's out there, that i think trinity is going to have a hard sell with this one...

JMO..

[QUAKE&SHAKE]

My lhs got one today thing is they didnt order it/want it. He is putting it on Ebay to sell it. Its not too impressive really. Susp not nearly as nice a as a Savage in feel or travel. The spur looks like a dremel saw blade. No foams in the tires. Susp arms arent very thick either for truck size. Size well it is BIG due to the tires.

[speedyz]

Hi all, I just recieved my new Trinity Monster Spyder on Friday. I haven't ran it yet. I'm just going over it to see what it might need for my liking. So far I have replaced the receiver and installed a JR RS310 synthesized FM receiver. I noticed that the suspension feels stiff and rebound is too quick. For its wieght that might be ok. I dont know. I'm not happy that the wheel hubs are not standard size(14mm) like the Savage, LST, MGT, Revo, T-maxx. I have all those I mentioned. I wanted to get this truck because I wanted something big. Its not as big as you think. Its about the same size as my LST. It doesn't have a very good bumper system. I don't like the fact that the tires do not come with foam inserts. These tires are not track tires. I have no idea where I can find wheels with 19mm hex hubs. I want to put a set of proline Bow Tie. But, where can I find the wheels to match the bow ties and fit the truck at the same time. Thats going to be a challenge. I like the univeral dogbones. They look very tough. The TVP chassis is much thicker than the one on the Savage. BTW the steering linkage looks very strong compared to the savage.The rear suspension does not have turnbuckles. This truck "looks" tougher than the Savage. But I really cannot say that for sure because we all know that looks can be deceiving. I now own 8 monster trucks.(T-maxx,Sportmaxx, Revo, Savage 21, Savage SS, Monster GT, Team Losi LST, and now Trinity Monster Spyder). At least with this truck I already know that its not made by trinity. Trinity told me that they have re engineered this truck to make it supperior to its overseas counterparts. In Europe its called the Zircon TPC. When I bought my MGT I thought I was buying a Team Associated monster truck. I later found out that it was nothing but a rebadged Thunder Tiger. Well, I hope to run this truck soon to see how it will compare to my LST. I got the Spyder from Tower Hobbies. I ordered it late September. At $463 shipped I still think its a little over priced. What would I like to do first? Get Bow tie tires with wheels that will fit.(Where will I get that?).Softer springs and thicker shock oil. This truck has no Trinity Stickers on it. Gee I wonder why. Too bad only one steering servo. The stock steering servo is not strong enough for this truck. Its too heavy for this steering servo. I will break it in than I will replace the servo with a JR650M servo. The shocks are not treaded but they are aluminum. It has dual composit brake disc. These brakes feels very strong. The spur gear is steel. Dont get your finger caught in that. Ouch. The muffler just by the looks of it will be very loud. Im sure it wont be as loud as the muffler on my Savage SS.(Its the ribbed stock one). The Engine says "SH" on it. Who makes that? Its basically a 26 engine. Im sure that my LST will blow this truck away in top speed and acceleration. Because the LST is very light compared to this truck. The dynamite engine in the LST I feel is too much power for the LST. My LST on a small track is very hard to control because it simply has too much power. Well I can't wait to compare the LST to the Trinity Monster Spyder.

[QUAKE&SHAKE]

The Thunder Quake uses 19mm hexes and Pro-line 40 series fit them. Look here for picture http://forums.radiocontrolzone.com/showthread.php?t=146923&page=3

UM Ofna makes 17mm hubs in 6 & 8mm axel sizes if one of those fit the spyder you coulds get OFNA maxx size rims then use any maxx size tire
I thought I read that there will be adapters shortly for maxx rim use.

[BJoeHandley]

I think Duratrax also sold a Maxx wheel conversion for the Quake trucks. From what I saw on the web site that was posted for the Zircon, it looks like it may be a relative of those trucks too.

[vetmxer]

the proline 40 series tires,bowties,big joe's,etc. will fit the spyder(dirt demon) wheels just fine

[speedyz]

Thank you for the info. Would you believe that the my Trinity Monster Sypder arrived on 11/11/04 (Two weeks ago) and I have not even tried it out. I have tinkerd with it. I replaced the stock receiver with a JR RS300 Fm (synthesized). I lowered the front shocks. I still think the suspension is too stiff. The weather in the East coast has not been that great. Today is Turkey day and it finally stopped raining, Maybe I can sneek out of the house early and break in the engine. I priced out a set of Dirt Demon wheels and a new set of Proline 40 series bow tie and OUCH. Over $100 dollars. Those dirt demon wheels are expensive. I don't want to resuse the Wheels I have on the Monster Spyder because I would use the stock tire and wheel combo for bashing around. On the track I go to those tires will not hold. The compound is too hard.

[speedyz]

I removed the transmission from my Monster Spyder and took it apart. I inspected the two speed gears and hub. I found that the set screw was extrmely loose and can easily loose its setting. I removed the set screw and inspected the small spring inside the hub. The shifter fingers on the hub looked ok. I realized that this two speed set up is very sensitive. I carefully reinstalled the spring and put a drop of locktite on the set screw and adjusted it just enough that it just touched the shifter fingers and provided some resistance. I reassembled the transmission and installed it in the Monster Spyder. I did a few test runs and noticed that it was a little weak on acceleration but with good top end (was in sec gear as soon as the truck moved). I began to adjust the set screw for the two speed clockwise in 1/8 increments. After about 3 adjustments I noticed that it was shifting very rapidly as I began to accelerate. I began to adjust the set screw 3 more times with only 1/8 increments. At last the truck shifted perfectly. I think using the locktite gave me the ability to adjust the set screw with some resistance. The screw was no longer loose as it was before. I was able to make fine adjustments. It shifts perfectly now. I think the key to this repair was using a small drop of loctite on the set screw which allowed fine adjustments with some resistance. I could never adjust it the way it was before, because every time I tried to adjust the screw, it would be too loose and it would just loose its setting.

[bob333]

I would rather wait for the warhead to come out

[vetmxer]

I priced out a set of Dirt Demon wheels and a new set of Proline 40 series bow tie and OUCH. Over $100 dollars. Those dirt demon wheels are expensive. I don't want to resuse the Wheels I have on the Monster Spyder because I would use the stock tire and wheel combo for bashing around. On the track I go to those tires will not hold. The compound is too hard.
i have a set of Dirt Demon wheels and tires (ran for 2 tanks) like new. ill let ya have em for $40 shipped

[thedarkness]

If anyone out there has one of these how does the tank mount to the chassis in the rear?If you could get pics it would be even better.Im thinking about mounting one of these in my revo.

[spyderman65]

The tank has a ring molded in the plastic that slips down on a post and is secured with a body clip. The front has a tab that slides into a square hole.
See picture.

[ApriliaRacer]

I didn't see or get the carb tuning instructions for the engine. Does anyone know what the factory defaults are for the adjustments?

[spyderman65]

Dude do you mean the two set screws?
I tried to scan my instructions and paste them but I cannot get them small enough to post here.

Factory settings:
High: 4 1/2 out
Low 3 1/2 out
Idle 1mm gap
Plug Epic E8
Fuel 20 %Nitro Monster Brew
Head Temp 230 - 240


Break in settings
5 to 5 1/4 out
rest the same.

[spyderman65]

Make sure to tighten ALL screws even the ones on the drive shafts.
Or be prepared to go crazy looking for the excact screw sizes.
P.s you will not find them.

[ApriliaRacer]

Thanks for the info! And I'll pull the set-screw and use loctite on them

[gomojo55]

Can somebody put some video footage of their Spyder on here. I wanna see it run.

[charlies99]

Well I Just ran in a Zircon which is the same model but the UK name. In the UK it ships with a XTM 24.7 engine which is a joy to run.

It runs GREAT...Fast and stable, getting faster by the tank and I can only roll it on WOT with a sharp turn.
Now starting to pull wheelies and despite four flips and one head on no damaged parts. Everything was loctited down from the factory. I thought I would locktite the grubs etc but they were already done, a first in my experience. Got through six tanks and the fuel consumption is great. It is VERY well built and can stand the knocks.

I picked up this truck new for £219 ($396) and consider it great value. It may not be a famous name but is has speed, strength and tower hobbies carry all spare parts.

Hope this has helped. For those wanting vid clips look up Jamara Macho in google, it is the same model but for the euro market.

I had about six guys asking questions (and even a chick!) on the local park, people were just watching as it ripped up the grass at full speed!!!

I am very impressed with this truck and will now retire my Terra Crusher (too slow)

Has anyone else got feedback on this model?

[rottenmeat1]

my zircon tpc MT came today and its alot faster than a savage but slightly heavier and not as tight a turning circle :D.

i bought it off ebay for £240 which is incrediable for a brand new MT that beats the savage :D

[charlies99]

my zircon tpc MT came today and its alot faster than a savage but slightly heavier and not as tight a turning circle :D.

i bought it off ebay for £240 which is incrediable for a brand new MT that beats the savage :D

Good luck with it! Mine is still going strong, only repair was a grub nut that lossened on the shaft, tightened and loctited, no more probs!!!

[rottenmeat1]

Good luck with it! Mine is still going strong, only repair was a grub nut that lossened on the shaft, tightened and loctited, no more probs!!!

i hope that wont happen to my MT cos i dont wanna take it apart for a long time as i cannot be bothered to rember how everything goes back togther and spend 4hrs doing it :D

[charlies99]

Well sorry to tell you it WILL happen, part of the hobby.

Keep your manual as it has the parts numbers, you wont be able to get a lot of them in the uk so be prepared to wait sometimes.

[rottenmeat1]

do you have msn so you can help me with my car please :D

[rottenmeat1]

i managed to break my MT by summersaulting it about 5 times and breaking the front diff. wow my mum was anoyed